@@lukemehalick370 @jalontf2 Yes the commando is by far my favorite support stratagem! Super useful for every enemy type in the game, and with its fast CD it's always a prime choice, was fun to have 2 commandos (1 was included in some maps for limited time) and I legit cruised through levels... Weirdly enough, it's the stratagem jammers that usually ruin my campaigns, due to constant bot drops incoming and failed attempts resulting in no support weapons to help clear it... Dang bots and their stupid technology...
I haven’t been using OWB for like a few months until today. I’ll try to use OWB, thank you for teaching us how to use OWB more effectively. (I use 380mm because I don’t know how does walking barrage works.)
@@kruabo haha my pleasure, ty for taking the time to learn how to use it effectively. It definitely will take some getting used to but Lmk how it goes!
@@twiltzofficialgaming ngl, when I was throwing OWB near (about 30 to 40 meters) a bug breached, I killed 49 bugs and two impalers with 2 or 3 380mm shells(OWB's shell) that we didn't know two impalers came out of bug breached, and they got killed before tentacles.
@@TimothyTinnitus yes! You definitely should try it out and lmk what you think.. Just know that it might take some getting used to for lining up the barrage, make sure you throw it 30 meters in front of enemies or so if you shooting it dead on! Sometimes even farther out could help like for larger targets like the factory strider or depending on terrain! Happy diving!
I gotta give the walking orbital a try again especially against the bugs(I only used it against the bugs when it was issued to all divers for the day a while back). I only ever use the walking barrage for bot outposts and detection towers. Now I know how to use this orbital a little better now but I can't help but think a few divers will die due to my strategic placement of this stratagem but thats a chance I'm willing to take 👍
@@bobyhill1138 hahahahaha I think they will understand, and sacrifice their lives for the cause... But yeah it took me awhile to figure out how to use the walking barrage effectively, half the time I would blow myself up in the process, but matching it with the engineering armor? I think that's the one with extra throw distance, helped a lot too, but I feel like many people including myself (until recently) don't like to switch up their armors... Glad to hear you are willing to give it a go! Good luck out there..
I use the walking pretty regularly against bots. I like the long pattern to sweep across medium/large bases, and to take out detector towers from father away. It also lets the team be more aggressive than they could be with the 380 since you can start moving forward before the barrage is complete. One thing I want to try from your video is using it from a forward flanking position to sweep across the enemy line of advance, I hadn't thought of that before but it sounds legit.
The only problem I have with the barrage is that I don't always know which direction my teammate threw it. Am I safe? Do I need to run away 60 more meters? Do I need to strafe 30 more meters? Which direction is it coming from? *boom* "Calling down reinforcements!"
@@jaysonburke6839 haha yeah it can definitely be hectic, if only more people saw the video and placed it strategically we wouldn't have to waste so many democratic resources.. or if there was an indicator of some sort to judge direction, otherwise it's hectic and makes the warzone feel active and at times annoying.. but it's still a good stratagem choice for most mission types!
Missed that stratagems will bounce off vertical rock faces. Using this, you can throw it behind you, bounce it off a rock towards you, and give yourself extra distance and time between you and your barrage.
walking barrage seems really weird, it's basically a 380 that just keeps shifting it's center of dispersion, rather than a consistently patterned barrage that covers its path. I'll stick with the 380 if I need the larger version of the 120mm
@@GameFuMaster I can understand why you dislike the walking barrage over the 380, but just know that the walking barrage is better for moving targets while the 380 is better for stationary ones, different stratagems for different enemy types, I hope you'll give the walking a chance in game (use it a couple of times), before shelving it forever. Thanks 🙏
Walking barrage is good for attacking an enemy base when you want to move forward, just behind the barrage. I personally like the predictability of the walking barrage as compared to the 380. Both useful, but slighly different use case for each.
How many times did you die when you threw Barrage on your feet and sprinted forward? I'm asking to find out how effective this method is in combat. Since it sounds like a good tactic in itself.
@@Max-id2le it really depends on your armor, when I used light armor in probably had a survival chance of 80%, medium and heavy armor with blast resistance was more towards 60% IF I was swarmed.. You can definitely outrun the barrage most of the time, just sometimes if you get caught by enemies or have bad rng you may be obliterated by a random shell.. over all it's a pretty valid tactic! Great question!
In my entire 1100 hours (800 in-game) experience, I have witnessed so many players on command bunker missions fail to throw 380 on radius of objective... While I just throw walking barrage and 99.9% am sure it will blow it up and move on to the next objective on the list. I am always bringing OWB on command bunker missions regardless of my loadout just in spite of bunker turrets consistently hard aim locking on you. Weird that people don't understand from mistakes of stratagem balls WILL drop from your hand once stratagem is activated and you get ragdolled from some stuff. Wasted time and stratagem, wasted SEAF budget :/
@@divineadamenjoyer hahahaha I'm sure SEAF understands that the training period for new recruits is rigourus but fast paced.. But I cannot agree with you more, I love taking the walking barrage over 380 especially when I need to get into a location I will be bombarding. Nothing says patience like waiting for a 380 to finish before you can even get close, but nothing says get out of the way I'm coming through more than the orbital walking barrage.
@@twiltzofficialgaming Hey, btw m8, congrats with new orbital. We got ONB on our hands and I sweated my arse off really hard helping on Tarsh and Mastia.
@@divineadamenjoyer yes congrats 🎉🎉🎉 can't wait to try it out again! Napalm on bugs is going to be a game changer especially with the upcoming fire buffs.
@@lordxerlus3842 The napalm barrage was indeed crazy effective.. I was hoping the 120mm is buffed to have 5 shells per salvos as well.. definitely effective, though I think the walking barrage still is effective due to its large kill zone in a line rather than a circle ⭕, as it allows more customized cover (straight on, sideways, diagonal barrage directions)... I do love how good the orbitals are right now though!
Not really. Orbital napalm barrages for killing enemies, particularly bug breaches, in a specific area. The Orbital Walking Barrage allows you to advance to an objective or for killing enemies in a straight line. Most used the Orbital Strike or Orbital Gas due to its low cooldown. Each Helldiver has a go-to Stratagem lineup per objective/ enemies, etc.
@@jankevinsalvacion9621 I agree 👍, glad people are starting to use more than just the "best" stratagems. Sometimes all it takes is a bit of tweaking and inspiration to make even the worst of stratagems good again.. though it does help that a lot of them are getting buffed..
@@lockentoni2510 mine was 320 sec... Maybe Im wrong and was constantly in an increased cooldown modifier game... I originally thought it was 240 as well but I'll have to check..
@@twiltzofficialgamingno problem: you said the cooldown is 320 seconds and the text says „3 min 20 seconds“ and this is a big difference (3 min and 20 seconds= 200 seconds and 320 seconds = 5 min 20 seconds
its the shittiest design for a walking barrage. it makes no sense for it to be so inaccurate and move so slowly. its basically near worthless given the alternatives. It should fire fire one shot even half second and be much more accurate with a predictable pattern rather than that random crap that goes off to the side randomly. this shit isn't even indirect fire like real life walking barrages were. its direct fire from directly overhead, it should be pinpoint accurate if arrowhead really cares so much about realism. And it should be three simultaneous and parallel explosions in front, followed by another three a bit more in front. instead they drop one at a time all over the place, just vaguely moving forward.
@@simonphoenix3789 I can agree with you for the most part, if AH was going for realism like they suggest they are, the walking barrage definitely missed its mark.. But that said, I would not say the walking barrage is useless even if it's pattern is a bit chaotic and random... For the most part the decrease in "walking" speed helps to hit more targets in its area of effect, and to some extent I feel that the walking barrage often retraces it's steps and thus hits the same target multiple times with different volleys... I can understand your frustration simonphoenix3789, hopefully you can revisit the walking barrage sometime in the future and see it's potential... Otherwise lmk if you have any more questions or concerns! Hope you have a good day!
Fun fact: before Arrowhead "slowed down" the Walking Barrage's advancement, it could destroy active jammers when called in just outside their radius
@@jalontf2 I'm sad I never got to try this, it would have made my life so much easier haha! Thanks for sharing!
Can essentially do the same thing on about 70% of the jammers with the commando. Kill it without stepping a foot inside the base, from any angle.
Yeah but you need the RNG luck for them to have the fabricator next to them...
@@lukemehalick370 @jalontf2
Yes the commando is by far my favorite support stratagem! Super useful for every enemy type in the game, and with its fast CD it's always a prime choice, was fun to have 2 commandos (1 was included in some maps for limited time) and I legit cruised through levels...
Weirdly enough, it's the stratagem jammers that usually ruin my campaigns, due to constant bot drops incoming and failed attempts resulting in no support weapons to help clear it... Dang bots and their stupid technology...
whoa, you just found an untapped stealth nerf mention
I haven’t been using OWB for like a few months until today.
I’ll try to use OWB, thank you for teaching us how to use OWB more effectively.
(I use 380mm because I don’t know how does walking barrage works.)
@@kruabo haha my pleasure, ty for taking the time to learn how to use it effectively. It definitely will take some getting used to but Lmk how it goes!
@@twiltzofficialgaming
ngl, when I was throwing OWB near (about 30 to 40 meters) a bug breached, I killed 49 bugs and two impalers with 2 or 3 380mm shells(OWB's shell) that we didn't know two impalers came out of bug breached, and they got killed before tentacles.
@@kruabo oh wow, right place at the right time, that's democracy at its finest! Glad its working out for you so far kruabo, and thanks for the update!
@@twiltzofficialgaming
your welcome, hopefully OWB will be buffed on 17th sept so we'll be waiting to see in the patches notes.
sorry if i'm being dense, but how do you know what direction the 'walking' goes in? Is it the direction you're facing when you throw the strategem?
Where you face is where it goes.
@@ObliviousNaga great question and great response thanks for answering ObliviousNaga!
Very helpful guide again! All these one shots you talked about make me want to use the walking barrage post buff!
@@TimothyTinnitus yes! You definitely should try it out and lmk what you think..
Just know that it might take some getting used to for lining up the barrage, make sure you throw it 30 meters in front of enemies or so if you shooting it dead on! Sometimes even farther out could help like for larger targets like the factory strider or depending on terrain! Happy diving!
I gotta give the walking orbital a try again especially against the bugs(I only used it against the bugs when it was issued to all divers for the day a while back). I only ever use the walking barrage for bot outposts and detection towers. Now I know how to use this orbital a little better now but I can't help but think a few divers will die due to my strategic placement of this stratagem but thats a chance I'm willing to take 👍
@@bobyhill1138 hahahahaha I think they will understand, and sacrifice their lives for the cause...
But yeah it took me awhile to figure out how to use the walking barrage effectively, half the time I would blow myself up in the process, but matching it with the engineering armor? I think that's the one with extra throw distance, helped a lot too, but I feel like many people including myself (until recently) don't like to switch up their armors... Glad to hear you are willing to give it a go! Good luck out there..
Excellent in-depth and consice guide
@@psychotron2624 Thank you! Was trying a new format, glad it worked out!
I use the walking pretty regularly against bots. I like the long pattern to sweep across medium/large bases, and to take out detector towers from father away. It also lets the team be more aggressive than they could be with the 380 since you can start moving forward before the barrage is complete. One thing I want to try from your video is using it from a forward flanking position to sweep across the enemy line of advance, I hadn't thought of that before but it sounds legit.
@@longshot52 haha yes try it out and let me know what you think! ( I imagine you were talking about horizontal barrage)
I never walk forward with walking Barrage because it often walks backward a step. It's more like Drunken Stagger Barrage
@@Krystalmyth I agree, sometimes it feels like that first shots intentionally aimed at you.... Does the job though, I love using it
The only problem I have with the barrage is that I don't always know which direction my teammate threw it. Am I safe? Do I need to run away 60 more meters? Do I need to strafe 30 more meters? Which direction is it coming from? *boom* "Calling down reinforcements!"
@@jaysonburke6839 haha yeah it can definitely be hectic, if only more people saw the video and placed it strategically we wouldn't have to waste so many democratic resources.. or if there was an indicator of some sort to judge direction, otherwise it's hectic and makes the warzone feel active and at times annoying.. but it's still a good stratagem choice for most mission types!
Imagine a barrage of auto aim precision strikes
Or a railgun barrage of 10 shots
@@adrixisd5346 that would make the war as good as won.
appreciate the OWB guide, but the first part can be a bit shorter. saying "1 hit to kill" on every unit made me play the video on x2
@@nivek4321 oh got it thank you, I'll adjust that in the future. I appreciate the input!
stratagem jammer radius is 150 meters, not 180
@@protonjones54 oh it is? My fault I could have sworn it was larger.. thank you for the correction!
Useful.
@@Sbenbobb9 thank you so much! Glad I was able to help!
Missed that stratagems will bounce off vertical rock faces.
Using this, you can throw it behind you, bounce it off a rock towards you, and give yourself extra distance and time between you and your barrage.
@@charlespk2008 oh that's interesting I didn't know it could do that. Thanks for the info charlespk2008 (a runescape reference?)
walking barrage seems really weird, it's basically a 380 that just keeps shifting it's center of dispersion, rather than a consistently patterned barrage that covers its path.
I'll stick with the 380 if I need the larger version of the 120mm
@@GameFuMaster I can understand why you dislike the walking barrage over the 380, but just know that the walking barrage is better for moving targets while the 380 is better for stationary ones, different stratagems for different enemy types, I hope you'll give the walking a chance in game (use it a couple of times), before shelving it forever. Thanks 🙏
Walking barrage is good for attacking an enemy base when you want to move forward, just behind the barrage. I personally like the predictability of the walking barrage as compared to the 380. Both useful, but slighly different use case for each.
@@eric55406 yes! Also a very good explanation, thank for adding eric55406!
@@eric55406 so... basically only useful in a single situation, lol.
Just run closer to the base and 380 inside it instead
How many times did you die when you threw Barrage on your feet and sprinted forward? I'm asking to find out how effective this method is in combat. Since it sounds like a good tactic in itself.
@@Max-id2le it really depends on your armor, when I used light armor in probably had a survival chance of 80%, medium and heavy armor with blast resistance was more towards 60% IF I was swarmed..
You can definitely outrun the barrage most of the time, just sometimes if you get caught by enemies or have bad rng you may be obliterated by a random shell.. over all it's a pretty valid tactic! Great question!
In my entire 1100 hours (800 in-game) experience, I have witnessed so many players on command bunker missions fail to throw 380 on radius of objective... While I just throw walking barrage and 99.9% am sure it will blow it up and move on to the next objective on the list. I am always bringing OWB on command bunker missions regardless of my loadout just in spite of bunker turrets consistently hard aim locking on you. Weird that people don't understand from mistakes of stratagem balls WILL drop from your hand once stratagem is activated and you get ragdolled from some stuff. Wasted time and stratagem, wasted SEAF budget :/
@@divineadamenjoyer hahahaha I'm sure SEAF understands that the training period for new recruits is rigourus but fast paced..
But I cannot agree with you more, I love taking the walking barrage over 380 especially when I need to get into a location I will be bombarding. Nothing says patience like waiting for a 380 to finish before you can even get close, but nothing says get out of the way I'm coming through more than the orbital walking barrage.
@@twiltzofficialgaming Couldn't say it better about this.
@@twiltzofficialgaming Hey, btw m8, congrats with new orbital. We got ONB on our hands and I sweated my arse off really hard helping on Tarsh and Mastia.
@@divineadamenjoyer yes congrats 🎉🎉🎉 can't wait to try it out again! Napalm on bugs is going to be a game changer especially with the upcoming fire buffs.
Good vid useful
@@MrButuz glad you think so!
OWB wrecks bots
@@Varlwyll agreed 👍!
If it’s not buffed in the next patch. Once we get the napalm barrage all others will be obsolete IMO
@@lordxerlus3842 The napalm barrage was indeed crazy effective.. I was hoping the 120mm is buffed to have 5 shells per salvos as well.. definitely effective, though I think the walking barrage still is effective due to its large kill zone in a line rather than a circle ⭕, as it allows more customized cover (straight on, sideways, diagonal barrage directions)... I do love how good the orbitals are right now though!
Walking barrage, 380 and 120 all have their niches, people just don’t understand how to use it correctly.
@@prabhav1788 or don't take the time to learn...
Not really. Orbital napalm barrages for killing enemies, particularly bug breaches, in a specific area.
The Orbital Walking Barrage allows you to advance to an objective or for killing enemies in a straight line.
Most used the Orbital Strike or Orbital Gas due to its low cooldown.
Each Helldiver has a go-to Stratagem lineup per objective/ enemies, etc.
@@jankevinsalvacion9621 I agree 👍, glad people are starting to use more than just the "best" stratagems. Sometimes all it takes is a bit of tweaking and inspiration to make even the worst of stratagems good again.. though it does help that a lot of them are getting buffed..
2:44 you mean 210 seconds right?
@@lockentoni2510 mine was 320 sec... Maybe Im wrong and was constantly in an increased cooldown modifier game... I originally thought it was 240 as well but I'll have to check..
I just checked in game and it is 3min 23sec as stated in video
@@twiltzofficialgaming yes, but this means 203 secons, not 323…
@@lockentoni2510 I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean. Can you reword it please?
@@twiltzofficialgamingno problem: you said the cooldown is 320 seconds and the text says „3 min 20 seconds“ and this is a big difference (3 min and 20 seconds= 200 seconds and 320 seconds = 5 min 20 seconds
I hate it when my teammates bring this it kills our team more than it does enemy
As a level 140 who ALWAYS super hellidives, if used correctly, this will not.
@@prabhav1788 true hopefully more people see this video and learn how to use it near but not "on" teammates ;)
its the shittiest design for a walking barrage. it makes no sense for it to be so inaccurate and move so slowly. its basically near worthless given the alternatives. It should fire fire one shot even half second and be much more accurate with a predictable pattern rather than that random crap that goes off to the side randomly. this shit isn't even indirect fire like real life walking barrages were. its direct fire from directly overhead, it should be pinpoint accurate if arrowhead really cares so much about realism. And it should be three simultaneous and parallel explosions in front, followed by another three a bit more in front. instead they drop one at a time all over the place, just vaguely moving forward.
@@simonphoenix3789 I can agree with you for the most part, if AH was going for realism like they suggest they are, the walking barrage definitely missed its mark..
But that said, I would not say the walking barrage is useless even if it's pattern is a bit chaotic and random... For the most part the decrease in "walking" speed helps to hit more targets in its area of effect, and to some extent I feel that the walking barrage often retraces it's steps and thus hits the same target multiple times with different volleys...
I can understand your frustration simonphoenix3789, hopefully you can revisit the walking barrage sometime in the future and see it's potential... Otherwise lmk if you have any more questions or concerns! Hope you have a good day!