Hey folks, feel free to share and like this video if you enjoyed it. It really helps a lot and just takes a few seconds. Much appreciated, see you next time 😁 A special thanks goes to Lukas, who's composing the score of "Balkan Detours" and is doing all the sound design! How do you like the music of this series? Lukas is a professional composer from the Balkans with an impressive portfolio, having scored for movies, commercials, and more. To hear more of his work check out these links, and send him some love from us: ► instagram.com/lukas.medves ► www.youtube.com/@Lukas.Medves
If you look deeper it is not really the politicians - they are just the administrators of a vast and deeply hidden and historic control structure. We are the pawns in the system. It is a giant chess game with suffering on all who are caught up in it.
By far the best yt documentary I ever saw. Great shots, very good editing, the sound is balance and you did research for old footage of the war, the olympics and the story. As a former professional editor this is WOW !!!
You are so correct about how this particular video is award winning. Ive never seen the sights of previous warmongering n olympics so compassionately displayed. Exceptionally educational on sooo many levels. Show it on PBS in America n DW n France 24. This needs shown so the world can be reminded to give Peace a chance. Incredible video. ❤
Thank You for your honest portrayal of historical events, and your deft touch in editing, and storytelling. I was thirty years old when the 84 Winter Olympics were held, and I followed the tragic war closely from California. Senseless genocide is buried so deep in our DNA, that it seems as though Genocides will always be with us. We are a brutal and murderous race, that kills anything that sets off feelings of severe xenophobia within us. I am very concerned that genocide is not only part of our past, and present, but grotesquely overshadows our near term & long term future. Thank You, I love your work.
This is another beautiful video! When you were speaking with the people from the village at the end I was getting chills just thinking about what they went through. The scenery in the mountains is stunning, I especially liked seeing the fog moving through the trees. Thank you also to Lukas for choosing such complimentary music to accompany the video! I look forward to the next one.
Fantastic music, Lukas! Civil war is particularly devastating & tragic. As Spain and other places. If peace-keeping wasn't there in place, I think war would follow, even today. Too much grim atrocitices were committed, still in memory. The world need love, peace & understanding. Not war. All in such beautiful scenery, today. Thanks, guys. Great video!
How about we let them split peacefully into two states which already have clear borders and are already ethnically monogamous so each nation goes its own way? Instead of forcing the 3 nations with 3 mutually exclusive political, cultural and societal views, who fought each other in a war, to live in a single, totally dysfunctional state?
As always beautiful video. War devastates not just a city, but lives. But I hope that one day, bad things will cease to exist. Congratulations on the work and I loved the music, the story of the place and how your donate for each video. I'm proud to have met you , I really admire that! For more people like your in the world!❤❤❤
This was thoroughly enjoyable! I love seeing the landscape. It is very reminiscent of where I was raised when the mist rises out of the mountains. I am so pleased to see more of the Brutalist architecture! That's one of the styles I miss when I studied Art. Everything came together so good in this video. The music was great and the visuals were spot on as usual. Hello Till! I hope everything is going good for you in Brazil.Cheers to everyone for a job well done!🎉
Amazing video guys. The story telling and the sound track just about broke my heart. Really touched me. War is never pretty, my heart goes out to the people affected by it. When i was in high school we had an exchange student from Slovakia. He once commented on the war. He didnt have words to express how horrible it had been. He was only glad that they had peace again. He said that many of the buildings from the Olympics had been destroyed. I remember he commented about how onw of the skating buildings had became a graveyard where a mass murder had taken place. I think it was a type of cultural cleansing of sort. He wasn't clear and he didn't like talking about it. He never said how close he was to the battle or if his family had relicated as a result or anything else. I can imagine that so.ething like that must have been hard for a kid to grow up in and live with the knowledge that any day could be your last. Agin beautifully told. Thanks for sharing this.
Considering the Bosnian War a civil war is a form of historical revisionism that only serves to benefit the Serbian perpetrators of the violence. This misrepresentation undermines the experiences of the victims and ignores the international nature of the conflict with external involvement from neighboring countries like Serbia and Croatia. The war has been recognized by international courts, including the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) as an international conflict. The United Nations and various international courts have upheld these distinctions in their rulings. Moreover the Bosnian people regardless of the rulings of courts and the UN know what happened and have lived through the pain and suffering of those events. Denying this truth only perpetuates the trauma and hinders healing for those affected. I hope that you will correct this mistake.
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I grew up during this era.. It greatly affect me as I watch the news on the massacres in Congo and Yugoslavia war. The world just stood by .. I forget how it end but these 2 wars are differents because the it was a genocide, killing everyone everything. Such a cruel time.. but this video bring me hope that healing has begin.. such a beautiful people, beautiful country..
É muito triste lembrar, o meu primo esteve para ir a guerra na Bósnia em 92 ,os Portugueses como missão de paz,o meu primo era sargento do exército,cruz vermelha,etc... e a minha tia conseguiu que ele desistisse da ideia e ele foi para os bombeiros. Foi horrível,um desperdício de vidas humanas por um capricho de alguns fulanos que se acham no direito de destruir o que quiserem e lhes apetecer, como crianças mimadas a jogar á batalha naval.
Another excellent episode. Well edited and concise. Music by Lukas is perfect - the haunting opening particularly resonates with the tragedies that happened in this region.
@@bwturbex I really like the Balkan Detours Series. I get inspired & start researching about what has happened there. Interviewing the locals is a wonderful feature. You're getting personal, & historical info. You guys are honest, caring & respectful. Thank you again & keep up the good work. I do hope you will eventually get to Albania. 🌍🌎🌏
as someone whos born in 89, my very first memory is my father waiting for the bus going to war. only later i understood what it meant. thankfully , he returned... but memories remain. east croatia, and especially bosnia, have wounds that will take a few more decades to heal, if even then, unlike the west where war has been mostly forgotten, cities completely reconstructed, and only sporadic army spots still hold the war story alive. bad policitcs, corruption, and a non existed will to change the system is why the rest of the country is still suffocated wtih war stories, destroyed public monumens, buildings, roads, etc. it's been already 1 generation since the war ended, a complete generation of people that never saw a glimpse of war, yet their mouth are full with war... we'll never change, and we'll always keep that patriotism that doesn't mean anything today, all ex-yu countries are falling apart, with bad economies, high unemployment rates, emigration, low pays, and corrupted politics. ... nice video, but there's so much more it's not possible to record in a video.
Extremism is part of Balkan culture. What you need is a strong ideology to keep extremism under the rug. Communism was such an ideology but couldn't stand the test of time and the passing of Tito. I don't believe that Europe and democracy can be that new ideology, but at least it keeps extremism in the freezer for a while.
History has become my favourite subject because of your explanation and visit to all these places.World is full of mysteries,and helps us to learn the ups and downs of every country has gone through.Thanq you for your abundant knowledge and the way you share and the best videos.GOD bless you all.
Great Video very well executed with documentary of the once a thriving place, full of laughter happiness and Love. Sad to see it is in such disrepair unable to salvage next to nothing what a pity, Loved the explore you guys are amazing in bringing. abandoned places back to life as it was, to show us the vast difference much Appreciated. Thank You🥰 Music is Epic Congrats
Thanks for this video. Last year I visited also these Olympic places and also the former television tower. So very sad that the war has killed so many innocent people in the Balkans.
That hit hard. I am half croatian, half german. My father was born just at the border to Bosnia. I have family there. My stepmother and her kids were also refugees from the war coming to Germany in the 90s... Thank you for revealing not only the ruins but the important stories behind them. Danke!
Amazing video, guys! Especially the sound design by Lukas Stepančič! Please consider releasing it as a Balkan Detours soundtrack album on Bandcamp!!!!!!
Yes, politicians started it but not only those in former Yugoslavia but those from western EU and from US, just like they did and are still doing in other countries. Unfortunately, innocent people pay the price every single time. There should be a rule that every politicians that votes for war should have their sons, daughters sent to front lines first. I bet there would be very few wars in the world. I lived thru this war in Croatia in 1990s.
Ein hochinteressantes, großartig gemachtes Video! Wunderbares Bildmaterial, prächtig geschnitten zwischen historischen Aufnahmen, deinen Statements und Bildern von heute. Ein Zeitdokument und ein berührender Aufruf gegen den Krieg! Abo ist raus!
Vielen Dank! Willkommen auf dem Kanal, schön dass du uns gefunden hast. Neue Videos gibts ca alle 2 Wochen. Und da du aus dem deutschsprachigen Raum zu kommen scheinst (dein Deutsch ist zu gut für Google Translate), könnte dich auch interessieren, dass wir vor Kurzem ein Buch bei National Geographic geschrieben haben, was bald veröffentlicht wird. Stell es dir als unsere Dokumentionen in Schriftform vor. Sollte dich das interessieren, hier wirst du fündig: shop.nationalgeographic.de/jaeger-der-verlorenen-orte#:~:text=Verlassene%20D%C3%B6rfer%2C%20verfallene%20Ruinen%2C%20vergessene,sich%20abseits%20ausgetretener%20Pfade%20wagen. Ansonsten bis zum nächsten Mal!
I was 16 years old when i stayed in this hotel on a skiing trip with my school for a week, it had just been built...quite strange and sad to see it now...
@@bwturbex…I wish I had, was how it looked before the war. I do remember the chair lifts were powered by huge Diesel engines you could hear them from a distance and all that smoke..👍
Your videos are so so compelling!! I knew a man that qualified for these Olympics! I will never understand why men create excuses for war?! Till what are u doing in Brazil! World traveler!😅😅 Lucas's music is definitely a great contribution to your axing films!❤❤❤❤
Hey Linda, thanks for your kind words! Lucas indeed is doing great work!! So thankful to have him onboard. And well, since I can choose where I live, but still work, I chose Brazil for now 😄
Vielen Dank Marion! Wir haben vor Kurzem ein Buch für National Geographic Deutschland geschrieben, das in wenigen Wochen erscheinen wird. Wir haben wenig Publkium in Deutschland und vorerst wird es nur eine deutsche Version geben. Wenn dir also unser Videostil so gut gefällt und du Deutsch sprichst wäre das vllt was für dich, es steckt auf jeden fall eine Menge Herzblut drin! Solltest du interessiert sein, findest du es hier: shop.nationalgeographic.de/jaeger-der-verlorenen-orte#:~:text=Verlassene%20D%C3%B6rfer%2C%20verfallene%20Ruinen%2C%20vergessene,sich%20abseits%20ausgetretener%20Pfade%20wagen. Ansonsten bis zum nächsten Mal und stay curious!
Really wonderful video. I love the blend of history with the reality of what's been left behind-how things appear today. The faces of the people are mesmerizing, their character and strength is so obvious. Thanks for using your amazing talent to share the world with us.
It is nice to see you publishing. You videos are so few, and short when they do come out, that it is a treat. I just wish you actually showed more of the places to which you travel. You surely have more footage?
Hey, thanks a lot! Yes, we have more footage but for better storytelling, we decided to throw out a bunch of video clips. Editing these kind of videos takes endless hours on the computer and we're only two poeple - usually, a big team is working on documentaries like that. Unfortunately, we have limited funds and can't effort to edit longer and more videos.
It is always painful to look upon the ravages that war inflicts where once was peace, and the coming together of many different peoples in the spirit of friendly sporting competitions. It is not the people who gather to honour their fallen loved ones, it is the politicians, who do not bear the weight of their actions and decisions of the past that brought so much heartache and destruction to people with deep roots in this country and its past. You always show with honesty the hard memories as well as the beauty when you visit these places, touched so deeply by the barbarity man is so often willing to perpetrate upon each other for ideas that are frequently not their own. When the Olympics were revived after WWII, it was with a hope that peace and sports could bring us all together, with a vision that mankind was not meant for fighting and killing. I still believe that we have more in common than we have differences. We all want and need the same things, food and water, shelter, love and kindness. We need safe places to raise children, and educate them, places and times where we can come together and talk, to discover the humanity we all share when the greedy do not hold tightly all those things we need in common. Just at the close of the battles musician friends of mine drove a truck, on which the musicians played and performed their music for war weary peoples. They toured all the cities and settlements that had been war torn, bringing an international message if peace, love, and healing. They carried no military equipment or guns…only their musical instruments, and voices of many languages carrying the same message of hope. My friends were profoundly changed and moved by the greetings they received everywhere they went, and the grateful welcomes they received from all. You have captured both the beauty and promise of these places…and their people, with honesty and appreciation. Turning your cinematic abilities and haunting music on these proud and resilient peoples, and their magnificent counterside. Knowing it will take years to remove the mines that still have the power to cripple and kill the unwary. War leaves a stain wherever it has been, that the passage of time alone cannot eradicate. Only acceptance and understanding can do that, as people work together to build a new and better life where such atrocities have been committed. The work you do toward that end is powerful, and truthful. Making not judgements, but room for change to the better. The Olympic sites that held such beauty and idealism are so sadly broken, and left as mute testimony of man’s inhumanity to man. Divided, not by species, but by religious and political differences, used to drive wedges between peoples who could have so much more by celebrating our similarities and working together instead of being set against each other by political propaganda that blames the “other” for the problems all must face. This was both beautiful, as only you can make it…and sad beyond words for the orphaned children, and wounds to the hearts and souls of those who have lost so much in a war that brought them so much suffering for so little reward. I hope you enter some of your work in Cannes, and Sundance where so many will see the amazing work you do, for the future, and wildlife habitats, as well as to give voices and faces to the statistics of war…giving them a more truthful context. You are doing important work that will have a profound impact long after all the participants are gone, and their stories forgotten. Thank you for not turning away from what must be remembered. You are a bridge between the past and the future…showing us what is now, and important. I write this, having been a Widow of two weeks, but knowing what you do is important beyond my meagre words, and my heartfelt gratitude.🖤🇨🇦
Tamarra, once again you manage to move us by what you say and the stories you tell. The tour your musician friends did sounds like an incredible project that must have shaped them for life. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, we can only agree with those kind and clever words. Big hug from the other side of the gobe, we hope you handle the tough times you're having at the moment the best way possible and are already looking forward posting our next video, knowing that it'll bring you some joy! All the best, see you next time :)
@@bwturbex Thank you so much for appreciating my ramblings and memories. I’m taking things a day at a time, some better, and some a little tougher. Grief is a journey, unique for each of us. It takes time, just as a life together did, and it isn’t resolved in a day, or a week…it takes the time it requires. So many memories pass through my mind, but I will be okay. Your love and care means a lot. Looking forward to your next offering.🖤🇨🇦
Here in the west the Yugoslav war is half a story told. The events leading up to the conflict go back to the fall of the SU wich made a strong bufferzone between east and west obsolete to the powers that should not be. The ethnic unrest was carefully planed and carried out in an event widely known as a color revolution we have seen more recently in many other places, some succeeded others have not. Arabic spring, Georgia, Belarus, Chechnia and the wests most recent succes Ukraine where V. Nuland shamelessly handed out cookies on Maidan Square bragging about her succes.
Human kind can sure make a mess of things. This was also a beautiful landscape and now littered with forever concrete for a very brief moment in time for 84 Olympics. This should have been restored to its natural beauty.
The cold war was a definite feeling when i was 10. The Olympics were the civilized way to bragging rights. (Every athlete jamming with p.e.d. was awesome too😆)
Love the video, but I have to correct something you said in the video - the war in Bosnia was not a civil war, it was a war of aggression, where Yugoslavia (basically Serbia and Montenegro at that point) attacked the independent Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, under the guise of "defending the Serb people", when in fact they were on a warpath of carving a Greater Serbia (which included Serbia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and parts of Croatia) outof the corpse of Yugoslavia and at the expense of non-Serb peoples. Also, the bones you found and showed in the video were probably left by people who cooked lamb or goat on a rotisserie, which is a tradition here. Greetings from Sarajevo and I hope you had a great time here! ❤❤❤
Nice but brutal, like watching the story of two brothers (the east and west) who fight constantly but have regrets and make up for a very brief moment (the olympics) and then go back to fighting and destroy the house 😢
It is an incredible design and looking at the photos of how it was - the architects and builders would be devastated to see what happened to their creation.
In February this year it was the 40th anniversary of the Sarajevo winter olympiade. One observation is that when I recently flew across BiH in early March this year, even the highest peaks didn’t have any snow on them. But your feature is not focussed in climate change but on the horrors that occurred here when Sarajevo was under siege for nearly three years (whilst the west once again a did what it does best and “twiddled their thumbs”). Whereas I have not yet been to Sarajevo, several friends of mine who were born and raised there say that everything they knew has changed. I need to tell you guys how the place is full of ghosts. Thanks again for a truly in depth analysis. ZZ
Why did the West need to do anything? It was a civil war which should have been resolved once and for all. However, the west did stop the war, but unfortunatly not to the satisfaction of either side or entity if you will and as such there is an underlying tension in all the entities as I am sure you know. I spent a lot of time in Bosnia, Sarajevo as a soldier and then later as a civilian in other places. Yes, Sarajevo has changed and not for the better unfortunatly. A large number of people living in Sarajevo were not there during the war, but they have a victimhood and entitlement of someone who thinks they suffered there during the war.
Sarajevo was not under siege, the Muslims were murdering their Christian Serb neighbors who lived all around Sarajevo. It’s been 30 years, everyone has seen documentaries and read Canadian UN soldiers top secret information which shows what really happened, google it and stop lying to everyone. We do not won’t to live in sharia law it you Muslim do, do it in the part of Bosnia and Hercegovina you murdered everyone who is not Muslim, leave us alone ffs.
@@cplcabs The so called "Siege of Sarajevo" is an utter nonsense made up by western propaganda and repeated afterwards by the Muslims because they simply can't accept military defeat and want media victory. Before the war Sarajevo had 33% Serbs and 45% Muslims and since 1992 until the end of the war in 1995 there were Serb-held half of the city and the Muslim-held one. The Dayton peace agreement gave the Serbian half of the city to the Muslims and all 130.000 Sarajevo Serbs abandoned their homes and settled in various parts of Republika Srpska rather than remaining under the Muslim-Croat administration. The fact that 130.000 Serbs left all they had just so they could live in Serbian half of Bosnia tells you how pointless the current Bosnian state is. Keeping the 3 ethnic groups that brutally fought each other in the same country is sadism. The Muslims want the Serbian half for themselves and that's why they insist on common state instead of simply limiting their appetites to what they have.
@@bwturbex Having served in Bosnia during the war and being there after the war as a civilian for a long time and having seen what has happens to people who explore such buildoings, I do not enjoy content of people exploring such buildings who don't know what can happen to them.
Some do, but the most are not heavy enough. The cruelty about mines is that frontlines during the conflict are secured with the mines, but constantly changing so after the war the exact position is hard to tell. For that reason many civilians, also children become victim of that weapon.
Looked like a calf skull tbh. About a 1 year old. The front teeth being sharp and the thick back teeth being grinders is just like a sheep except sheep don't have top front teeth. But definitely a grass eater there
I don't want to open a can of worms, but if part of an interview includes "the Serbs invaded" then it would be only be fair to see the other side of the story. Serbs have lived in Bosnia for over 1000 years, so to say they invaded is quite comical. If this sounds inflammatory then just ask yourself why 80% of inhabitants are Muslim. Who invaded who? And why was the Serbian population moved to is borders with Serbia and Montenegro, not to mention abroad.
The point is not to ask who invaded who. The point is to see how people that were living as neighbors before started killing each other for some ideological idea. And we should learn from that crucial mistake of history to make sure shit like this does not happen again.
Completely fair enough. The intent is beautiful and honourable. However I am just bringing attention to the fact that the statement from the interview is inaccurate. Comments like that and the over-use of terms such as genocide and ethnic cleansing takes away from the fact that war is death and destruction on two opposing sides, not one.
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Wonderful score 🎼
Thank you so much for introducing us to Lukas's incredible music through this series! And of course, thank you for your brilliant videos as well!
Agree and he's also a very intelligent, generous, and nice guy.
If it wasn’t for the bloodthirsty politicians, we would still be living in peace! Thank you for visiting Balkans!
Balkans are fascinating, so much to discover and learn
If you look deeper it is not really the politicians - they are just the administrators of a vast and deeply hidden and historic control structure. We are the pawns in the system. It is a giant chess game with suffering on all who are caught up in it.
By far the best yt documentary I ever saw. Great shots, very good editing, the sound is balance and you did research for old footage of the war, the olympics and the story. As a former professional editor this is WOW !!!
You are so correct about how this particular video is award winning. Ive never seen the sights of previous warmongering n olympics so compassionately displayed. Exceptionally educational on sooo many levels. Show it on PBS in America n DW n France 24. This needs shown so the world can be reminded to give Peace a chance. Incredible video. ❤
Thank You for your honest portrayal of historical events, and your deft touch in editing, and storytelling. I was thirty years old when the 84 Winter Olympics were held, and I followed the tragic war closely from California. Senseless genocide is buried so deep in our DNA, that it seems as though Genocides will always be with us. We are a brutal and murderous race, that kills anything that sets off feelings of severe xenophobia within us. I am very concerned that genocide is not only part of our past, and present, but grotesquely overshadows our near term & long term future. Thank You, I love your work.
Huh? This Olympics happened in 1992...the war happened a bit later....it wasn't 1984 🙄
@@6Haunted-Daysdid you not just watch the video? They are literally exploring the abandoned site of the 1984 Sarajevo Olympics…
Au , koja patetika. Kao mi smo svi balkanci genocidni i kao žališ se zapadnjacima , koji su bukvalno pobili pola sveta. Mislim stvarno ...
This is another beautiful video! When you were speaking with the people from the village at the end I was getting chills just thinking about what they went through. The scenery in the mountains is stunning, I especially liked seeing the fog moving through the trees. Thank you also to Lukas for choosing such complimentary music to accompany the video! I look forward to the next one.
Fantastic music, Lukas!
Civil war is particularly devastating & tragic. As Spain and other places. If peace-keeping wasn't there in place, I think war would follow, even today. Too much grim atrocitices were committed, still in memory. The world need love, peace & understanding. Not war.
All in such beautiful scenery, today. Thanks, guys. Great video!
Very true. Thanks a lot for watching and sharing your thoughts Steven. See you next time!
How about we let them split peacefully into two states which already have clear borders and are already ethnically monogamous so each nation goes its own way? Instead of forcing the 3 nations with 3 mutually exclusive political, cultural and societal views, who fought each other in a war, to live in a single, totally dysfunctional state?
The West is the cause of the war in Bosnia like in Ukraine. The whole world knows that.
As always beautiful video. War devastates not just a city, but lives. But I hope that one day, bad things will cease to exist. Congratulations on the work and I loved the music, the story of the place and how your donate for each video. I'm proud to have met you , I really admire that! For more people like your in the world!❤❤❤
The music is impressive. It makes the series that much better.
So true, this guy is a legend!
its sad to see such amazing structures left to crumble for years , with the dangers of mines . Be safe guys , another amazing video !!!! , loved it
This was thoroughly enjoyable! I love seeing the landscape. It is very reminiscent of where I was raised when the mist rises out of the mountains. I am so pleased to see more of the Brutalist architecture! That's one of the styles I miss when I studied Art. Everything came together so good in this video. The music was great and the visuals were spot on as usual. Hello Till! I hope everything is going good for you in Brazil.Cheers to everyone for a job well done!🎉
Amazing video guys. The story telling and the sound track just about broke my heart. Really touched me. War is never pretty, my heart goes out to the people affected by it. When i was in high school we had an exchange student from Slovakia. He once commented on the war. He didnt have words to express how horrible it had been. He was only glad that they had peace again. He said that many of the buildings from the Olympics had been destroyed. I remember he commented about how onw of the skating buildings had became a graveyard where a mass murder had taken place. I think it was a type of cultural cleansing of sort. He wasn't clear and he didn't like talking about it. He never said how close he was to the battle or if his family had relicated as a result or anything else. I can imagine that so.ething like that must have been hard for a kid to grow up in and live with the knowledge that any day could be your last. Agin beautifully told. Thanks for sharing this.
Considering the Bosnian War a civil war is a form of historical revisionism that only serves to benefit the Serbian perpetrators of the violence. This misrepresentation undermines the experiences of the victims and ignores the international nature of the conflict with external involvement from neighboring countries like Serbia and Croatia. The war has been recognized by international courts, including the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) as an international conflict. The United Nations and various international courts have upheld these distinctions in their rulings.
Moreover the Bosnian people regardless of the rulings of courts and the UN know what happened and have lived through the pain and suffering of those events. Denying this truth only perpetuates the trauma and hinders healing for those affected.
I hope that you will correct this mistake.
This is war is pretty important to understand so I’m glad you are telling an about it. Politicians dividing peoples is always the problem.
Awesome video, inspiring, touching and educational. Good work guys. Respect and appreciated.
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I grew up during this era.. It greatly affect me as I watch the news on the massacres in Congo and Yugoslavia war. The world just stood by .. I forget how it end but these 2 wars are differents because the it was a genocide, killing everyone everything. Such a cruel time.. but this video bring me hope that healing has begin.. such a beautiful people, beautiful country..
The world did not stood by, the West caused the war in Bosnia like in Ukraine today.
É muito triste lembrar, o meu primo esteve para ir a guerra na Bósnia em 92 ,os Portugueses como missão de paz,o meu primo era sargento do exército,cruz vermelha,etc... e a minha tia conseguiu que ele desistisse da ideia e ele foi para os bombeiros.
Foi horrível,um desperdício de vidas humanas por um capricho de alguns fulanos que se acham no direito de destruir o que quiserem e lhes apetecer, como crianças mimadas a jogar á batalha naval.
Your content is artistic and evocative. Thank you very much for the excellent work.
What an incredible sight, and great to see the start of healing!!
We tried to describe the posity atmosphere at the ceremony but we really struggled with it. Such an amazing feeling
Another excellent episode. Well edited and concise. Music by Lukas is perfect - the haunting opening particularly resonates with the tragedies that happened in this region.
Thank you once again for an eye opening historical video. I think the ending of this video was serendipitous.. Job well done boys. Bravo
Thanks a lot, muxh appreciated! How you like the other videos of our Balkan Detours Series so far?
@@bwturbex I really like the Balkan Detours Series. I get inspired & start researching about what has happened there. Interviewing the locals is a wonderful feature. You're getting personal, & historical info. You guys are honest, caring & respectful. Thank you again & keep up the good work.
I do hope you will eventually get to Albania.
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Wonderful, thank you!
as someone whos born in 89, my very first memory is my father waiting for the bus going to war. only later i understood what it meant. thankfully , he returned... but memories remain. east croatia, and especially bosnia, have wounds that will take a few more decades to heal, if even then, unlike the west where war has been mostly forgotten, cities completely reconstructed, and only sporadic army spots still hold the war story alive. bad policitcs, corruption, and a non existed will to change the system is why the rest of the country is still suffocated wtih war stories, destroyed public monumens, buildings, roads, etc. it's been already 1 generation since the war ended, a complete generation of people that never saw a glimpse of war, yet their mouth are full with war... we'll never change, and we'll always keep that patriotism that doesn't mean anything today, all ex-yu countries are falling apart, with bad economies, high unemployment rates, emigration, low pays, and corrupted politics. ... nice video, but there's so much more it's not possible to record in a video.
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Extremism is part of Balkan culture. What you need is a strong ideology to keep extremism under the rug. Communism was such an ideology but couldn't stand the test of time and the passing of Tito. I don't believe that Europe and democracy can be that new ideology, but at least it keeps extremism in the freezer for a while.
History has become my favourite subject because of your explanation and visit to all these places.World is full of mysteries,and helps us to learn the ups and downs of every country has gone through.Thanq you for your abundant knowledge and the way you share and the best videos.GOD bless you all.
Great Video very well executed with documentary of the once a thriving place, full of laughter happiness and Love. Sad to see it is in such disrepair unable to salvage next to nothing what a pity, Loved the explore you guys are amazing in bringing. abandoned places back to life as it was, to show us the vast difference much Appreciated. Thank You🥰 Music is Epic Congrats
What a beautiful place and wonderful people. Thank you Lucas for doing the music for BWT's videos
Einer der besten LP Beiträge die ich jemals gesehen habe.😊
Nice explore, thanks for sharing the history as well. Sad all of this is lost to their people.
Thanks for this video. Last year I visited also these Olympic places and also the former television tower. So very sad that the war has killed so many innocent people in the Balkans.
Very well done, guys . One of your best . Hello, and thank you from the U.S.A .
Thanks a lot! As always, feel free to share, it helps a lot!
Excelente exploración amigos!!! Abrazo!
Wow what a production... love the historical background stories!
awesome location and great camera work!!
Thanks for appreciating!
Such a great video! The places you explore are always so interesting and full of stories. THANK YOU!❤
That hit hard. I am half croatian, half german. My father was born just at the border to Bosnia. I have family there. My stepmother and her kids were also refugees from the war coming to Germany in the 90s... Thank you for revealing not only the ruins but the important stories behind them. Danke!
Amazing episode. Thank you from Australia 🦘
You have the most awesome video 's!! This place was so erie!
Amazing video, guys! Especially the sound design by Lukas Stepančič! Please consider releasing it as a Balkan Detours soundtrack album on Bandcamp!!!!!!
War Sucks ! It solves nothing. I remember watching those Olympics. Crazy how everything is still there and ruined. Thanks Marko & Till... Cheers ! 👊😎👍
It worked against the axis powers.
Solves plenty if you win
Yes , everybody loses in war even if you win. Look at the lives you lose on both sides.
@@southernman5839 My point exactly.
@@4rdF1Hunny Cost an entire generation of our boys but we haven't won one since.
These ruins are amazing… would love to see it in person. Fantastic work as usual you guys!
I also hope you’re enjoying my country! Make sure to visit the northeast. It’s the best region in Brazil
Actually there's a Brazil series planned for next year. Big future project but I'm already hyped and very much in love with your country!
Ein toller und interessanter Film! Gruß Roland
Really nice to see people like this, real people!!
Yes, politicians started it but not only those in former Yugoslavia but those from western EU and from US, just like they did and are still doing in other countries. Unfortunately, innocent people pay the price every single time. There should be a rule that every politicians that votes for war should have their sons, daughters sent to front lines first. I bet there would be very few wars in the world.
I lived thru this war in Croatia in 1990s.
Superb episode! Thoroughly enjoyed this one. Keep em coming!
When the winter Olympics are on my ULTIMATE FAVORITE IS THE LUGE!!! I would love to see it first hand some day.
Great video, well done!
Thanks buddy! Already hyped for the next one?
Ein hochinteressantes, großartig gemachtes Video! Wunderbares Bildmaterial, prächtig geschnitten zwischen historischen Aufnahmen, deinen Statements und Bildern von heute. Ein Zeitdokument und ein berührender Aufruf gegen den Krieg! Abo ist raus!
Vielen Dank! Willkommen auf dem Kanal, schön dass du uns gefunden hast. Neue Videos gibts ca alle 2 Wochen. Und da du aus dem deutschsprachigen Raum zu kommen scheinst (dein Deutsch ist zu gut für Google Translate), könnte dich auch interessieren, dass wir vor Kurzem ein Buch bei National Geographic geschrieben haben, was bald veröffentlicht wird. Stell es dir als unsere Dokumentionen in Schriftform vor. Sollte dich das interessieren, hier wirst du fündig:
shop.nationalgeographic.de/jaeger-der-verlorenen-orte#:~:text=Verlassene%20D%C3%B6rfer%2C%20verfallene%20Ruinen%2C%20vergessene,sich%20abseits%20ausgetretener%20Pfade%20wagen.
Ansonsten bis zum nächsten Mal!
I was 16 years old when i stayed in this hotel on a skiing trip with my school for a week, it had just been built...quite strange and sad to see it now...
Oh wow, do you have any pictures from back then?
@@bwturbex…I wish I had, was how it looked before the war. I do remember the chair lifts were powered by huge Diesel engines you could hear them from a distance and all that smoke..👍
Your videos are so so compelling!! I knew a man that qualified for these Olympics! I will never understand why men create excuses for war?! Till what are u doing in Brazil! World traveler!😅😅 Lucas's music is definitely a great contribution to your axing films!❤❤❤❤
Hey Linda, thanks for your kind words! Lucas indeed is doing great work!! So thankful to have him onboard.
And well, since I can choose where I live, but still work, I chose Brazil for now 😄
Eure Berichte sind immer sehr würde und respektvoll, das schätze ich sehr! Die Bilder sind immer so ästhetisch und ausdrucksstark, Kompliment!❤
Vielen Dank Marion! Wir haben vor Kurzem ein Buch für National Geographic Deutschland geschrieben, das in wenigen Wochen erscheinen wird. Wir haben wenig Publkium in Deutschland und vorerst wird es nur eine deutsche Version geben. Wenn dir also unser Videostil so gut gefällt und du Deutsch sprichst wäre das vllt was für dich, es steckt auf jeden fall eine Menge Herzblut drin! Solltest du interessiert sein, findest du es hier:
shop.nationalgeographic.de/jaeger-der-verlorenen-orte#:~:text=Verlassene%20D%C3%B6rfer%2C%20verfallene%20Ruinen%2C%20vergessene,sich%20abseits%20ausgetretener%20Pfade%20wagen.
Ansonsten bis zum nächsten Mal und stay curious!
Stunning video. My cousin was a "peace keeper" with the UN there. Such a beautiful place with horrific stories.
He must have told crazy stories I guess.. Hard times
Really wonderful video. I love the blend of history with the reality of what's been left behind-how things appear today. The faces of the people are mesmerizing, their character and strength is so obvious. Thanks for using your amazing talent to share the world with us.
I’m curious to see what your camera settings are especially for those darker shots. Really crisp footage, well done !
Wow guys !! another masterpiece,the music fits the somber story,so fine ! can't wait for more you guys are artists!😊
Thanks so much! As we already said, if you like the content that much feel free to share with your friends, it helps us a lot!
Hey guys,it looks likethe elogated jaw bone you discovered is from a horse !!😬
shiey and gifgas was here
It is nice to see you publishing. You videos are so few, and short when they do come out, that it is a treat. I just wish you actually showed more of the places to which you travel. You surely have more footage?
Hey, thanks a lot! Yes, we have more footage but for better storytelling, we decided to throw out a bunch of video clips. Editing these kind of videos takes endless hours on the computer and we're only two poeple - usually, a big team is working on documentaries like that. Unfortunately, we have limited funds and can't effort to edit longer and more videos.
Better to have quality than quantity in my opinion. And for creators who do it all themselves this is a big task to produce such quality work.
Beautiful presentation guys. Love wins over division doesn't it. Thankyou! T.
Truly haunting locations. Awesome job guys. You did these locations justice. Enjoyed watching!
Thanks, much appreciated!
Thanks awesome video I enjoyed seeing other country
It is always painful to look upon the ravages that war inflicts where once was peace, and the coming together of many different peoples in the spirit of friendly sporting competitions. It is not the people who gather to honour their fallen loved ones, it is the politicians, who do not bear the weight of their actions and decisions of the past that brought so much heartache and destruction to people with deep roots in this country and its past.
You always show with honesty the hard memories as well as the beauty when you visit these places, touched so deeply by the barbarity man is so often willing to perpetrate upon each other for ideas that are frequently not their own. When the Olympics were revived after WWII, it was with a hope that peace and sports could bring us all together, with a vision that mankind was not meant for fighting and killing.
I still believe that we have more in common than we have differences. We all want and need the same things, food and water, shelter, love and kindness. We need safe places to raise children, and educate them, places and times where we can come together and talk, to discover the humanity we all share when the greedy do not hold tightly all those things we need in common.
Just at the close of the battles musician friends of mine drove a truck, on which the musicians played and performed their music for war weary peoples. They toured all the cities and settlements that had been war torn, bringing an international message if peace, love, and healing. They carried no military equipment or guns…only their musical instruments, and voices of many languages carrying the same message of hope.
My friends were profoundly changed and moved by the greetings they received everywhere they went, and the grateful welcomes they received from all. You have captured both the beauty and promise of these places…and their people, with honesty and appreciation. Turning your cinematic abilities and haunting music on these proud and resilient peoples, and their magnificent counterside. Knowing it will take years to remove the mines that still have the power to cripple and kill the unwary.
War leaves a stain wherever it has been, that the passage of time alone cannot eradicate. Only acceptance and understanding can do that, as people work together to build a new and better life where such atrocities have been committed. The work you do toward that end is powerful, and truthful. Making not judgements, but room for change to the better.
The Olympic sites that held such beauty and idealism are so sadly broken, and left as mute testimony of man’s inhumanity to man. Divided, not by species, but by religious and political differences, used to drive wedges between peoples who could have so much more by celebrating our similarities and working together instead of being set against each other by political propaganda that blames the “other” for the problems all must face.
This was both beautiful, as only you can make it…and sad beyond words for the orphaned children, and wounds to the hearts and souls of those who have lost so much in a war that brought them so much suffering for so little reward. I hope you enter some of your work in Cannes, and Sundance where so many will see the amazing work you do, for the future, and wildlife habitats, as well as to give voices and faces to the statistics of war…giving them a more truthful context.
You are doing important work that will have a profound impact long after all the participants are gone, and their stories forgotten. Thank you for not turning away from what must be remembered. You are a bridge between the past and the future…showing us what is now, and important. I write this, having been a Widow of two weeks, but knowing what you do is important beyond my meagre words, and my heartfelt gratitude.🖤🇨🇦
Tamarra, once again you manage to move us by what you say and the stories you tell. The tour your musician friends did sounds like an incredible project that must have shaped them for life. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, we can only agree with those kind and clever words. Big hug from the other side of the gobe, we hope you handle the tough times you're having at the moment the best way possible and are already looking forward posting our next video, knowing that it'll bring you some joy! All the best, see you next time :)
@@bwturbex Thank you so much for appreciating my ramblings and memories. I’m taking things a day at a time, some better, and some a little tougher. Grief is a journey, unique for each of us. It takes time, just as a life together did, and it isn’t resolved in a day, or a week…it takes the time it requires. So many memories pass through my mind, but I will be okay. Your love and care means a lot. Looking forward to your next offering.🖤🇨🇦
Fantastic content, thank you!
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Here in the west the Yugoslav war is half a story told. The events leading up to the conflict go back to the fall of the SU wich made a strong bufferzone between east and west obsolete to the powers that should not be. The ethnic unrest was carefully planed and carried out in an event widely known as a color revolution we have seen more recently in many other places, some succeeded others have not. Arabic spring, Georgia, Belarus, Chechnia and the wests most recent succes Ukraine where V. Nuland shamelessly handed out cookies on Maidan Square bragging about her succes.
AMAZING!
Thanks buddy!
Adorei esta reportagem.
Voces estão no Brasil?
This is very interesting video to see and also sad to see this place
end this way, very interesting and educational video thank you for sharing
Thanks buddy, we try to give an insight in foreign cultures and history, glad you enjoyed it. Subscribe to the channel if you wann see more!
Such a beatuiful place, I would love to visit this place someday
You should defiinietly go there! The landscapes, the people and culture, the food, etc. are amazing. You will feel welcomed there.
Human kind can sure make a mess of things. This was also a beautiful landscape and now littered with forever concrete for a very brief moment in time for 84 Olympics. This should have been restored to its natural beauty.
The cold war was a definite feeling when i was 10. The Olympics were the civilized way to bragging rights. (Every athlete jamming with p.e.d. was awesome too😆)
I was there in 2000 while in the army. Beautiful city. Of course when I was there a lot of the city was still in ruins.
Were you part of the UN forces on site?
I was there in the winter of 95. God it was so harsh, and the brutalist architecture just echoed it.
I remembered this very well, I was a young mother living in America. Heartbreaking how official we can be with other humans
Let's never forget the tragedies of the past to learn for the future!
Poderiam colocar o link dessa câmera, para que nós de outras localidades do mundo possamos contemplar esse maravilhoso lugar ?
Thank God you have record of what was. The tagging sort of pretty.
Preserving history is kind of our motivation as wel as awakening curiosity! Thanks for watching, already hyped for the next one?
Love the video, but I have to correct something you said in the video - the war in Bosnia was not a civil war, it was a war of aggression, where Yugoslavia (basically Serbia and Montenegro at that point) attacked the independent Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, under the guise of "defending the Serb people", when in fact they were on a warpath of carving a Greater Serbia (which included Serbia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and parts of Croatia) outof the corpse of Yugoslavia and at the expense of non-Serb peoples.
Also, the bones you found and showed in the video were probably left by people who cooked lamb or goat on a rotisserie, which is a tradition here.
Greetings from Sarajevo and I hope you had a great time here! ❤❤❤
Nice but brutal, like watching the story of two brothers (the east and west) who fight constantly but have regrets and make up for a very brief moment (the olympics) and then go back to fighting and destroy the house 😢
I'd like to check out Salt Lake City and Vancouver .
What's there to explore?
When was this shot @brokenwindowtheory? That guy has the mask in his hand.
This was filmed in August 2021.
Superb video! btw if Gordon Ramsay was a woman it would be him sitting in the center of the frame in 17:26.
Thank you.
Very much welcome buddy
Show us the link for the webcam, please
www.bergfex.at/malo-polje-igman/webcams/c16730/
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Exquisite music
sincere friends
I am agog. Had no idea these were still there, no snow, tho’.
What is the huge empty structure?
An abandoned hotel, we tell the story in the video
The hotel looked like a concrete sculpture. It looks more like 80 years old, aged like the pill boxes of Normandy Beach.
It is an incredible design and looking at the photos of how it was - the architects and builders would be devastated to see what happened to their creation.
Welcome to Brasil!!!! ❤🇧🇷
Thanks! Such a nice country, I'm already in love
Kudos.
Thanks
"quo vadis aida" is a great movie about the yugoslav war
If this is episode 3, what happened to 1 and 2?
You can find them on our channel. We posted them earlier this month. Don't miss them!
In February this year it was the 40th anniversary of the Sarajevo winter olympiade. One observation is that when I recently flew across BiH in early March this year, even the highest peaks didn’t have any snow on them. But your feature is not focussed in climate change but on the horrors that occurred here when Sarajevo was under siege for nearly three years (whilst the west once again a did what it does best and “twiddled their thumbs”). Whereas I have not yet been to Sarajevo, several friends of mine who were born and raised there say that everything they knew has changed. I need to tell you guys how the place is full of ghosts. Thanks again for a truly in depth analysis. ZZ
Why did the West need to do anything? It was a civil war which should have been resolved once and for all. However, the west did stop the war, but unfortunatly not to the satisfaction of either side or entity if you will and as such there is an underlying tension in all the entities as I am sure you know. I spent a lot of time in Bosnia, Sarajevo as a soldier and then later as a civilian in other places. Yes, Sarajevo has changed and not for the better unfortunatly. A large number of people living in Sarajevo were not there during the war, but they have a victimhood and entitlement of someone who thinks they suffered there during the war.
Sarajevo was not under siege, the Muslims were murdering their Christian Serb neighbors who lived all around Sarajevo. It’s been 30 years, everyone has seen documentaries and read Canadian UN soldiers top secret information which shows what really happened, google it and stop lying to everyone. We do not won’t to live in sharia law it you Muslim do, do it in the part of Bosnia and Hercegovina you murdered everyone who is not Muslim, leave us alone ffs.
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The so called "Siege of Sarajevo" is an utter nonsense made up by western propaganda and repeated afterwards by the Muslims because they simply can't accept military defeat and want media victory.
Before the war Sarajevo had 33% Serbs and 45% Muslims and since 1992 until the end of the war in 1995 there were Serb-held half of the city and the Muslim-held one.
The Dayton peace agreement gave the Serbian half of the city to the Muslims and all 130.000 Sarajevo Serbs abandoned their homes and settled in various parts of Republika Srpska rather than remaining under the Muslim-Croat administration.
The fact that 130.000 Serbs left all they had just so they could live in Serbian half of Bosnia tells you how pointless the current Bosnian state is. Keeping the 3 ethnic groups that brutally fought each other in the same country is sadism. The Muslims want the Serbian half for themselves and that's why they insist on common state instead of simply limiting their appetites to what they have.
@@cplcabsWasn't a civil war it was full on aggression of Serbia against Bosnia and Herzegovina,Croatia,Slovenia and later Kosovo
We are all so sad for your climate change sightings. 🗿
can you roll down that slide with either a skateboard or bike when there is no snow?
You can find videos on UA-cam where they ride the bike down the bobsled track!
May we learn from these horrors.
Its not a good idea to explore those buildings, as you have said, there are mines around the land, but there is also UXO in those buildings
So it's good that we risk going there and you can enjoy the content!
@@bwturbex Having served in Bosnia during the war and being there after the war as a civilian for a long time and having seen what has happens to people who explore such buildoings, I do not enjoy content of people exploring such buildings who don't know what can happen to them.
After several decades, this place is completely hidden.
hervorragendes Video, geschichtlich wertvoll, Super, LG aus Austria.
Vielen Dank! Wenn's dir so gut gefallen hat teil es gern mit Menschen, von denen du denkst sie sollten es auch sehen. Das hilft uns ungemein!
Neat
Thanks
#frombrazil show de documentário... Mostra como a humanidade sofre com a loucura de poucos !
I will always fight for Freedom! ALWAYS.
how do animals not sett off mines?
Some do, but the most are not heavy enough. The cruelty about mines is that frontlines during the conflict are secured with the mines, but constantly changing so after the war the exact position is hard to tell. For that reason many civilians, also children become victim of that weapon.
Looked like a calf skull tbh. About a 1 year old. The front teeth being sharp and the thick back teeth being grinders is just like a sheep except sheep don't have top front teeth. But definitely a grass eater there
Any chance that these were multiple skulls? The first one we found could have been from a cow, but at the end, we found a horse's jaw.
I don't want to open a can of worms, but if part of an interview includes "the Serbs invaded" then it would be only be fair to see the other side of the story. Serbs have lived in Bosnia for over 1000 years, so to say they invaded is quite comical. If this sounds inflammatory then just ask yourself why 80% of inhabitants are Muslim. Who invaded who? And why was the Serbian population moved to is borders with Serbia and Montenegro, not to mention abroad.
The point is not to ask who invaded who. The point is to see how people that were living as neighbors before started killing each other for some ideological idea. And we should learn from that crucial mistake of history to make sure shit like this does not happen again.
Completely fair enough. The intent is beautiful and honourable. However I am just bringing attention to the fact that the statement from the interview is inaccurate. Comments like that and the over-use of terms such as genocide and ethnic cleansing takes away from the fact that war is death and destruction on two opposing sides, not one.
17:19 That is how that ( 10:54 ) happened.