The JonBenét Ramsey Murder: Unveiling the Shadows
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Cinemills TV presents an exclusive interview with Chris Todd, delving into the intricate investigation of the JonBenét Ramsey murder case, a perplexing incident that captivated not only the nation but the entire world.
The JonBenét Ramsey murder mystery remains one of the most intriguing and haunting cases in recent history. On December 26, 1996, the lifeless body of six-year-old JonBenét Ramsey, a talented child beauty pageant queen, was discovered in the basement of her family's Boulder, Colorado home. The circumstances surrounding her death and the subsequent investigation have generated widespread speculation and controversy.
The initial findings revealed that JonBenét had been brutally assaulted and strangled. The case immediately captured media attention, captivating the public with its disturbing details and numerous twists. The Ramsey family, including JonBenét's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, came under intense scrutiny as potential suspects.
Over the years, theories and suspicions have proliferated, ranging from theories of family involvement to intruder theories. The evidence and lack of a conclusive resolution have only deepened the enigma surrounding the case. Despite extensive investigations, including multiple grand jury hearings and the collection of substantial evidence, no one has been definitively identified or convicted for JonBenét's murder.
The JonBenét Ramsey murder mystery continues to captivate the public's imagination, sparking ongoing discussions, documentaries, and investigations. As time passes, the hope for a definitive answer to this tragic event persists, keeping the case alive in the collective consciousness and reminding us of the unresolved questions that remain in this perplexing crime.
No intruder is going to spend that much time in someone's house .there was no kidnapping.
You too need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' that went to air in 2016 - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - the new SCAM. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & all those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangles. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in days later as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter & Mary Lacy - Saw all the evidence known at that time that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke.
Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer".
There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was uploaded online but it's there now. Obviously certain sly cops, 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
They also don't use the word "attaché"
@@MDC33 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise some letters of their handwriting, by Handwriting 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad used on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re now on the job. Besides the DNA from both perps being reanalysed with the Advanced technology, untested evidence items from the BPD's dungeon are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
@@bethryan9077 but you left out an important detail, what kidnapper kills the object that would actually give you the money... and why would you stage a perverted molestation if what you really wanted was money. And if they left through the backdoor or side door why didn't they just take Jonbenet instead of killing her?
Parents all over the world have murdered their children in horrific ways, why would someone think a mother wouldn’t do that, they DO.
They evidence cleared the Ramsey's and the City of Boulder issued a public apology. All evidence points to Michelle Helgoth but his family still refuse a DNA sample.
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
I think he said 50k kids a year are murdered by parents. 500 in the US alone.
Because there’s a culture in the US that gives wealthy white people the benefit of the doubt. There was one interrogation of Patsy when she didn’t realize she was being recorded and the proper, polite facade she usually puts on wasn’t there.
Doesn’t mean she did!
That policeman should have gone into that room in the basement. No excuses.
@@YGardenRose especially if it's locked!
Yea that is still bothering me 😮
This case and Madeleine McCan will never leave me. I hope this two girls will get justice
They lost about 80 years each, a killer may lose 5. So - no justice possible.
Think case will be solved?
@@thomasprim8274nope. Never.
@@Polentaccio why do u think never
@WOODLASE The pageants were attended by family and friends, not the general public.
I hate the excuse that “they didn’t have the training and experience with homicides”. Anybody with common sense knows that as a cop, you don’t touch a dead body. Don’t touch it.
Good point there
OJ Fiction says he didn’t touch his wife until after the wedding and that his wife had been married for about a month before she died
Yes! That's what a "cop" should know John Ramsey was no cop. So your "Anybody with common sense knows that as a cop, you don’t touch a dead body." applies to WHOM?
@@user-eh5gj1hx9z Didn’t you watch the video? I’m talking about Linda, the detective who was there with the Ramseys!
Not really though in those days. CSI wasn’t on tv then and wasn’t so widely known
One of the most haunting parts, to me, of the story is this. The father carried his daughter's body upstairs while the cops were there. Rigormortis had already set in and she was still in the position in which she was found. That had to have been a horrible sight.
@gerritpeacock8949 - Can you imagine the shock? The fact that John carried the body upstairs and laid it on the floor, in full view of everyone, instead of running up to summon Det. Arndt down to the wine cellar, always seemed really suspicious to me.
@mpemberton7760 I agree it looks horrible in retrospect. But I can't judge someone in the midst of such a life-altering shock.
@@gerritpeacock8949 Not sure how much of a life-altering shock it was to him, after "discovering" the body that he himself had put there.
Adding to his suspicious behavior was the fact that he called a pilot to prepare his private jet for a flight to Atlanta later that afternoon. This was only about a half hour after the horrifying scene of JB's dead body being displayed on the living room floor had unfolded!
The officer who overheard JR make the phone call told him he couldn't leave Boulder, because he needed to assist the police in the investigation.
JR's response was that he had "an important meeting in Atlanta," but reluctantly agreed to stay.
So flying to a meeting in Atlanta was a higher priority than grieving with his family or helping the police investigate his daughter's homicide?
Does that seem like the normal behavior of an innocent man who's in a state of shock?
I saw a blurry photo of John carrying her body through the house. Just picture him carry an ironing board. He could barley clear the corners. Her hands were up above her head making her extra long. It’s nothing like most people probably imagine.
@@belladonna7912 Where did you see this photo? Was it in a book? I've seen an illustration of how he carried the stiff body, but I never knew that someone had taken a photo.
People…use your brains..no kidnapper is going to take their sweet time to write a ransom note at the scene of a crime. They would bring the note to the scene, commit the crime and get the hell out of there.
Exactly and. No kidnapper would go through all that just to leave her in wine cellar .. who writes a ransom note to then leave her there smh so yea parents tried to cover up their asses
You too need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' that went to air in 2016 - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - the new SCAM. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & all those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangles. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in days later as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter & Mary Lacy - Saw all the evidence known at that time that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke.
Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer".
There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was uploaded online but it's there now. Obviously certain sly cops, 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public.
ANY Idiot knows that Nobody would even Try to disguise some letters of their writing by Handwriting 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that, then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on the rung of the back staircase & For The Cops, had plopped the marker used in the pen cup & placed the notepad on the back hall table. More than one Useless money grubbing cop was a sociopathic Idiot & showed the whole world that Fact, going on to breed a whole Cult of people walking around our communities who are exactly the Same sociopathic Idiots who should Not be allowed to Vote.
@@user-eo7ip1xo2u Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
Firstly, go do some homework & find out how many people are killed in the home when family are there sleeping. And this ‘home’ was Four levels. There are many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime. One should take the time to Think about Why that is. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called. The intruders sure didn't go to so much trouble & take such high risks for Nothing. These sociopaths weren't Idiots. JB was Never to be taken from the house. After acts of torture on & off in the early morning hours, JB was strangled to death in the basement laundry room when her mother was calling 911 upstairs.
The taking of photos was their back-up for money later. The two gross fractures of her skull occurred just After death & both of those acts were also preplanned if the cops were called. This was a very, Very well planned crime for money that turned into also, a revenge crime against John. They were after quick available cash & knew of John's bonus from end of year '95 as that amount was on his paystubs each month of '96, that were in his home office. That $118,000 as an amount was Very significant to Glenn Meyer, the organiser & the author of the note, who was leasing the Barnhill's basement apartment across the road, in Secret. Meyer had access to the many cards, letters & notes that Patsy had given the Barnhills over the years, in her print writing. His cohorts had broken into the house before, that's Why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. The Main Aim was to frame each Ramsey family member, plus the housekeeper who they knew had a key. Meyer conned his way into their house on the evening of the 23rd when the kids & friends Xmas party was in full swing & he took Patsy's notepad. Easy as That. The marker used belonged to Him. The note was convoluted & very long to keep the keystone cops reading it over & over again looking for a clue instead of doing something vitally important, like talking to the Neighbours.
I actually pity all those who believe the Fake writing ‘samples’, as If Patsy did those letters & as If the pages are from the police files. All types of A##holes set forth to Con the public so as to make Money from this ever high profile murder case. You too show yourself to be totally Ignorant about this crime, this case & about Life matters in general.
You're just someone Else who doesn't have the brain cells for True crime & neither did the 7-8 investigators from the Boulder PD who had Never worked a murder case before either. Stick to your one hour made up simple plot TV crime shows, that tell ya the beginning, the middle & the end.
And get this through your head lovey - No parent would torture then slaughter their child & then would find it Feasible to try to disguise their handwriting, by Handwriting a 365 words & numbers ransom note Plus use their Own notepad to do that & put that on the hall table For The Cops plus use their Own marker & put that in the pen cup For The Cops. Nor would Any parent then tell the cops, homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on the rung of the back staircase! More than one useless money grubbing cop had Moron Syndrome & it's clear that it's still spreading like a fn Disease.
Host keeps saying “ no mother would kill her child”…… what planet has he lived on?!?
I guess he hasn't been to an abortion clinic lately.
This guy gets so in love with what he wants then tries to create evidence to support his theory instead of simply letting the evidence to lead u to THE actual outcome!! There's ONLY 2 options here!?! Birk hit her over the head with flashlight likely just a split second rage, or pattsy fit of rage over whatever or possibly the bed deal!! But so obviously she wrote the "ransom note". To either cover for berk or herself!! This isn't a hard case at all to at minimum narrow it to those 2!!!
This was the case that got me into true crime. Still haunts me and breaks my heart 💔
It was the OJ trial for me, then this
SHAME ON THEM, MOTHER DID IT, WHY DOES PEOPLE HAVE KIDS IF THEY DON'T WANT THEM.! SOMEONE WOULD HAVE WANTED HER, THEY SHOULD GIVE TO PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HAVE KIDS!! SHE WAS SO PRETTY AND SMART, PARENTS HAD MENTAL PROBLEMS BUT TO ME, THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE, MOTHER, FATHER, OR WHOMEVER KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, BETTER WATCH OUT, KARMA WILL GET WHOMEVER IS STILL LIVING!
@@Helen-vs1yl This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
It is very clear to the whole of this utube world, exactly Who has the Mental Problems deary. @@Helen-vs1yl
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If the person doing this interview finds it "hard to believe a mother would kill her child in a violent way as this," someone needs to tell him about Susan Smith who pushed her car into a lake with her sons inside or Andrea Yates who drowned her five children in a bathtub.
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
You cannot base one case against another, they are all different in circumstance. No denying parents can kill their own children but that does not mean every case should be seen as the same.
JonBenet was raped. I hardly imagine her mother did that. I also doubt that she sat around for 1 to 3 hours while her daughter bled into her brain, and then strangled her with a garrote.
@rhondennis
There's no motive, no scientific evidence, no evidence of bad character of the Ramseys being involved in JonBenet's heinous homicide. So, don't go comparing other murders to THIS murder. Stop and use your head before posting such asinine statements.
Susan Smith drove her kids into the water because her boyfriend was dumping her because of the kids. She did not torture them for hours. JonBenet was tasered, her mouth was covered with dirty black duct tape. She was taken to the basement. Her skull was fractured by a small hammer. A broken piece of a wooden paintbrush handle was pushed into her vagina, tearing her hymen and leaving splinters. Then she was strangled to death with a very complicated garrote. All of this, according to the medical examiner, took several hours. Do any of you think her family, who obviously loved her, did this?
A young girl was murdered in her own home .That is a fact . The main suspect has to be somebody who lives there. How do these suspects deflect attention from themselves ? They blame an intruder, that is why they created the ridiculous ransom note.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
*BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS?* Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain.
The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
*Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.*
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another.
What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
*NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!*
The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
**The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.
Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
Why? There is ample evidence someone broke into the house intending sexual assault and murder. There is no evidence incriminating any family member. You can find both the autopsy reports and sworn testimony on line. Look up Wolf v Ramsey. It’s full of sworn testimony. The judge concluded that there was no evidence against the Ramseys.
Pretty difficult to put a stranger’s saliva in your daughter’s panties and get the same stranger’s skin under her fingernails, but why let facts disturb your fantasies?
Dressing a six year old like she 22 never ends well
Only those with pedo fantasy brain processes would see this little girl's beautiful dresses & perfect costuming as being dressed as a 22 year old. Go get Help.
To say that her beautiful dresses & perfect costumes was 'dressing a 6 year old like she was 22 years old' says Everything about You.
@WOODLASE To say that the make-up & dancing skits were 'highly suggestive' just shows the evil mind within You. I don’t see Anyone railing against all those who Make Up from their sick Heads, all the despicable garbage, which is them Accusing JonBenet Herself, of all the Vile incest & paedophile acts that they conjure up with Glee & post proudly.
Of the Hundreds of such comments & Stories that I’ve read from such abhorrent so-called human beings, Nobody says a friggin Thing to them. What a National Disgrace.
Hang on that’s right, Lots of Other so-called human beings Do say certain things to them, they Agree with them. And because they’re of the exact Same ILK, they’re Bolstered to post Their sick thought processes about the same Vile acts, incest & paedophilia, all about this Child, including 9 year old Burke sometimes & no-one rebukes them in Any way.
There was never one Skerrick of evidence that JB was previously sexually abused Nor one Skerrick of evidence about Burke either. Yet the Ramseys & their Kids are very cruelly subjected to a round-robin of particularly grotesque accusations that include - child sacrifice, satanic worship scenarios, pedos at the garden parties, selling their child, their friends being Allowed to abuse their child, society members being Allowed to abuse their child including Of Course, Epstein & so on & so on - on it goes, Incessantly.
According to the same so-called human beings, because the Ramseys were wealthy for a while, all of the above is what they did with their spare time.
Nobody Ever mentions that the Ramseys had deep faith in God & were avid church goers.
One can pop over to the many videos about the Chris Watt’s murder case for example. Let me know when you find Anyone who has posted Any comment about Him sexually abusing his little girls Or any other comment about a gang of his friends who did the same & worse.
Of all the Hundreds of videos about same subject & victimology, Nobody talks about Any of Those kids as soo many do about This, highly intelligent 6 year old murdered little girl.
Shame on you.
@@bethryan9077 She was sexualized and paraded around like a…shall we say woman of the night. One has to be into pedophilia to think this is a good idea. Our society is sick in too many ways to count.
@@bethryan9077parading a 6 year old in makeup and swimsuits for grown adults to “judge” is NOT OK. That you imply your approval of such behavior says a lot about YOU 😟
If it was a "botched" kidnapping because she died, why wouldn't the kidnappers take her deceased body and still try to get the money? Why leave the body?
Because it wasnt. Nobody will ever have an adequate explanation because it simply makes no sense. Steve Thomas's theory, or some variation, both satisfies occams razor and makes the most sense, AND fits with the evidence including patsys handwriting, the 3 page note written on house stationary, the out of place flashlight, the constant bed wetting, patsy never getting a chance to change her clothes, etc etc etc
STEVE DIECKHOFF I Wish He'd INVESTIGATE HIM.
Youre applying logical reasoning to a killer/kidnapper who likely lacks that ability. Furthermore, if the ramseys killed there daughter and faked a ransom, why would they leave the body in the house? The illogical nature of the crime can just as easily exonerate the family as it does raise suspicion.
@IMKK-rh7pb There was 0 proof that it was a kidnapping of ANY KIND. Botched or not. Why would kidnappers come in for just one child? Why didn't they take Burke too? Why did they kill just Jon Bonet? Why didn't they kill the whole family? Your asking good questions you're just asking the wrong ones.
It wasn't an attempted kidnapping . It was a cover up by Patsy and John .
Unfortunately, there's been plenty of mother's out there that have killed their children. So it's not unbelievable to think she killed her own daughter. Evil exists in those we least expect.
My thoughts are not good regarding mother's who expose their innocent, vulnerable, helpless, little children to the world of beauty pageants and all that exploitive glamor-world entails. From the start these mothers are SICK and SELFISH to play that game using their precious children as puppets (tools) to feed mom's sick ego needs. Add to that fact, the people who work in that industry are warped. To encourage little kids to be objects is just plain wrong. To coax little kids to be actresses, to be cute, pretensive, coy is wrong!
And the beauty world is also full of pedos. The mothers of these little kids are warped and should be SUSPECTS of doing evil....
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.* Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
*The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public.* The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys 'factually innocent' due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. The 93 page document of her findings is online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong, both Scam artists & both Proven LIARS, in more than one court of Law. Cina Wong was Never a Qualified writing analyst At All as Carnes duly noted & she was outed as being any type of 'expert'. The libel case never went to trial, it was dismissed.
Another long held secret by Wong - she had previously sent Patsy an email & stated that she would testify For her, as to Not writing the note. Patsy ignored her, did not reply.
Later on to find her version of fame, Wong put out a video for TV which included Fake writing samples as IF Patsy's writing & letter ‘samples’ & as IF from the police files with her whiteboard list of Fake letters still being put up as pages of two columns on Many fooltube shows. People are soo gullible & that's what Both of those a##wipes Relied upon to - Make Money. Both of them Failed, as have Many since.
All manner of Con Artists came out of the woodwork trying to find their version of fame & to line their own pockets, off the back of this still high profile crime about a child's sadistic torture & very brutal murder that Nobody Talks About because very few have Bothered to Find Out the TRUE Details of everything that was done to this 6 year old little girl. The bottom feeder story tellers keep coming for endless utube ‘shows’, like the plethora of TV shows before, because soo many people are naïve, soo many are easily brainwashed & then the new generations who know even Less. That CBS show put out in 2016 was totally Bogus & that’s why CBS & the whole gang of Paid Pipers were mightily Sued, but it sure put new Ramsey bashers in such a new Frenzy, people don’t even stop & think, that because the case has Never been to Trial, the Case Evidence has Never Been Released & so, y’all know absolutely Nothing, except fairy tales.
*The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Already being Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also, he is hispanic.*
*Jim Clemente & James Kolar spearheaded that CBS farcical production & every single one of those scumbag Con Artists knew all about the Facts of the DNA. They also knew very well exactly Why the Ramseys were Proven Innocent way back when Most had Forgotten, not born then, too young to Know. They made up that whole story & deliberately went for Burke, knowing that the public did Not know much at all, as is true Today.
And that’s just another reason why CBS & every one of those A##holes were Sued for $750 million. CBS settled the case out of court, to save their investors, some money.*
The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues, with many putting out New made up stories for the titillation factor, now for Views, meaning $$.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day, Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.*
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Find that online & read it, Slowly.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Recently a cold case team were put together & are on the job. They have also been given the go-ahead to have more evidence items sent away for the even More advanced DNA analysis & processes. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
N.B. The general public need to Comprehend that - NOBODY would try to disguise their Handwriting, by Writing a 365 words & numbers Ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops, detectives, seasoned homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase - and For The Cops, to have just plopped the sharpie used in the pen cup & put the notepad on the hall table.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books & TV shows, get Ruthless.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. That was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This very heinous plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. Now y’all can start again & Think for a Change.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.* Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
*The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public.* The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys 'factually innocent' due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. The 93 page document of her findings is online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong, both Scam artists & both Proven LIARS, in more than one court of Law. Cina Wong was Never a Qualified writing analyst At All as Carnes duly noted & she was outed as being any type of 'expert'. The libel case never went to trial, it was dismissed.
Another long held secret by Wong - she had previously sent Patsy an email & stated that she would testify For her, as to Not writing the note. Patsy ignored her, did not reply.
Later on to find her version of fame, Wong put out a video for TV which included Fake writing samples as IF Patsy's writing & letter ‘samples’ & as IF from the police files with her whiteboard list of Fake letters still being put up as pages of two columns on Many fooltube shows. People are soo gullible & that's what Both of those a##wipes Relied upon to - Make Money. Both of them Failed, as have Many since.
All manner of Con Artists came out of the woodwork trying to find their version of fame & to line their own pockets, off the back of this still high profile crime about a child's sadistic torture & very brutal murder that Nobody Talks About because very few have Bothered to Find Out the TRUE Details of everything that was done to this 6 year old little girl. The bottom feeder story tellers keep coming for endless utube ‘shows’, like the plethora of TV shows before, because soo many people are naïve, soo many are easily brainwashed & then the new generations who know even Less. That CBS show put out in 2016 was totally Bogus & that’s why CBS & the whole gang of Paid Pipers were mightily Sued, but it sure put new Ramsey bashers in such a new Frenzy, people don’t even stop & think, that because the case has Never been to Trial, the Case Evidence has Never Been Released & so, y’all know absolutely Nothing, except fairy tales.
*The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Already being Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also, he is hispanic.*
*Jim Clemente & James Kolar spearheaded that CBS farcical production & every single one of those scumbag Con Artists knew all about the Facts of the DNA. They also knew very well exactly Why the Ramseys were Proven Innocent way back when Most had Forgotten, not born then, too young to Know. They made up that whole story & deliberately went for Burke, knowing that the public did Not know much at all, as is true Today.
And that’s just another reason why CBS & every one of those A##holes were Sued for $750 million. CBS settled the case out of court, to save their investors, some money.*
The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues, with many putting out New made up stories for the titillation factor, now for Views, meaning $$.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day, Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.*
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Find that online & read it, Slowly.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Recently a cold case team were put together & are on the job. They have also been given the go-ahead to have more evidence items sent away for the even More advanced DNA analysis & processes. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
N.B. The general public need to Comprehend that - NOBODY would try to disguise their Handwriting, by Writing a 365 words & numbers Ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops, detectives, seasoned homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase - and For The Cops, to have just plopped the sharpie used in the pen cup & put the notepad on the hall table.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books & TV shows, get Ruthless.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. That was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This very heinous plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. Now y’all can start again & Think for a Change.
There was Never going to be Any justice when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of this child’s murder case & who had No priority except for covering their Incompetent asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all.
The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were Responsible For Starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious behaviour.
It is totally irrelevant that some women have killed their children. There is no evidence that this woman killed this child.
@nbenefiel , you're right. There isn't any hard evidence. But that in itself doesn't mean she didn't.
The interviewers last statement is ridiculous. Its absurd to suggest a mother would kill her child?? It literally happens all the time.
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
The interviewer was so unprofessional the entire interview, sighing and making stupid comments, debating every single point of his presentation.
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
@@mikep4957 This whole thing is a Sham interview lovey, the 'interviewer' is staged to say xyz so this Nutjob a##wipe comes in with his ever so strong indignant Rebuttal with the same surly look on it's face. LOL.
If you’re guilty, you need a lawyer; if you’re innocent, you REALLY need a lawyer.
Agreed!!!!
Exactly yes but i guess the point is they hired two separate lawyers as if they was preparing if they have to go against each at other
The case is simple but was handled very poorly
So nice to see someone not pull any punches. This is how you have to deal with idiots that think the parents are innocent. It isn’t even close.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
*BTW - who would try to disguise their Handwriting by Writing 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
Here’s the thing for all you immature Ramsey bashers, you can’t possibly Fathom what happened at Any stage because this crime hasn’t been a script for your one hour made up simple plot TV crime shows, that tell ya the ending.
FYI - not all crims run in door, commit their dirty deed & run out again. Now go play.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who in said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
Legacy Xplore: The so called idiots are often the ones who have researched in detail, applied logic & have bothered to investigate impartially.
@@bethryan9077👍 Absolute brilliant detailed account of events, with backed up evidence that makes sense. How anyone could believe an intricate garrot could be made by the family or Patsy Ramsey wrote a 3 page letter, is beyond comprehension. Well done for sharing these conclusive facts.
I think the idiots are the ones who believe the Ramsays were responsible for JonBenet murder.
It’s so counter intuitive, most can not believe a mother would kill her child. He gave him the stats. It happens. It’s horrible and so sad, but true. 😢
Or, or, there is an unknown narrative for a murderer to commit the crime, that no one can fathom. Like a significant date or time that a sick mind is reliving. Like the anniversary of a significant event in the development of a sick mind. A first time perhaps.
@@EdEdwardsCiphers that’s one heck of a trigger for one heck of an anniversary response. But it could happen.
@@jeanneemajor2610 I hope to spell it out in more dramatic fashion on my channel, because no matter how I try to explain it in written form -- most don't get it. So yes. It is a hell of a trigger.
The murder is a celebration in the mind of the killer. No one, and I mean no one, would ever be able to figure out what happened unless they understood the mind of the killer. Jonbenet was "targeted". Which is a term used in describing serial killers.
The seeming randomness of the murder, was not so. The fact that the killer would not live nearby her, nor be known to anyone that lived there in boulder or knew the Ramseys would help with the inexplicable nature of it. It would turn neighbor against neighbor which was part of its intent.
The anniversary response was about one of the first murders that Ed Edwards is suspected of. The murder of 6 year old blonde Suzanne Degnan over 50 years prior. It was Ed's Murderversary. It's why the murder will never be solved by traditional means nor by what they currently have either in evidence nor in the people they have working on it. No one would ever be able to , to this day understand the motive for it. But that's what it was.
The interviewer is so naïve if he thinks a terrorist was walking around their house writing notes lmao
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain. The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another. Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolf lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the 1st unknown male that was under her pinkie fingernail plus his Saliva in one spot of her blood in the big underpants, was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male’s DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from that unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it. Take note of that Year.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor.
Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
NOBODY would try to disguise their handwriting - by Handwriting 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That! Some cops also had moron syndrome.
The 2nd Commander put in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit or Ollie Grey OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - ARE Innocent.*
The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Go find that online & read it Slowly.
Last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re on the job. They also have the go-ahead to have both intruders DNA reanalysed with the advanced technology & can have untested evidence items from the BPD’s dungeon, to be analysed with same. The FBI are involved with this investigation, finally.
One can only hope that this cold case team will have Integrity. And, that none will be after a book deal like certain officers from before, who are Totally responsible for every single Unfounded accusation against all Ramsey family members that goes on & on still to this day for No sound reason At All.
The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
@@bethryan9077oh my god! It’s you again! You’re a total psycho lol every JonBenét video you’re defending those creeps 😆😆
yeah you would have to be insane to believe that it's pretty wild to think about
@@RR-bd4jp The interviewer is a cohort of the nutter spouting from that place where the sun don't shine. BTW - what part of Exonerated do you Not understand?
One time My 6 year old hid in a closet down stairs, I searched every room inch by inch. No way they wouldn’t have tore that house apart searching!
Agreed, I have bracketed every square foot of my house looking for a damn cat after storm, even knowing the cat is ok. A distressed parent will continue looking. Animal nature.
You didn't find a ransom note at the bottom of the stairs either.
People think they really know who did kill her but nothing ever happens. It's a sad case and bizarre one.
Over 1000 suspects have been DNA tested but, so far, no match. I still think Helgoth did it. He fit all the profiles, was a convicted pedophile, knew the house and JonBenet., and killed himself the day before he was due to be questioned by the police. His family refused to have his DNA tested. There is also that strange story JonBenet told her friend and her friend’s mother Christmas Eve day that Santa told her that he would pay her a special visit Christmas night. The mom said no, that Santa was coming that night, Christmas Eve. JonBenet insisted that Santa promised her a special visit but she was not supposed to tell anyone about it. An adult telling a child to keep a secret from the parents is highly suspicious.
Sounds cut and dried to me!
@@leighburville2717 FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they also have the go-ahead to resubmit the DNA from perps for the advanced DNA work. They can also get the untested evidence items from the BPD for the same DNA & forensic analysis. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
@nbenefiel at first i was skeptical and thought the mother alone was responsible but i do believe 2 intuders were perpetrators and atleast one of them knew john ramsey clearly by the note, helgoth and and an associate would be most likely.
@@leighburville2717 Do you always believe TV shows as if the Gospel truth? Hmm. BTW - what part of Exonerated do you Not understand?
I am an RN and have seen horrific things a parent has done to their child often in a fit of rage. Any other time the parent would never do such a thing. But then ...something snaps!!!
It maybe the most gut wrenching thing to see.
I ran pregnancy tests on 12 year old females when I worked medical lab. I thank God that I never saw a positive, but it's out there.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
What about the woman who had 14 children who were chained to their beds and tortured.
@@bethryan9077wow. Thank you so very much for this. I never thought the Ramseys were involved. But you have cleared it up for me. ❤
How can the host conclude and say “it’s absurd to think that a mother would do something so vile to the daughter she loved”
Man, wake up. Parents have abused and killed their own children countless times. Chris’s investigation is the most likely and logical scenario Ive heard to date. It all tragically adds up.
Yeah in the blighted eyes of all you victim annihilators, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves & also according to your ever so proud Cult of Ramsey Bashers, apparently being absolute Imbeciles, they must have had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty.
FYI - there are a gross number of adults & kids who are murdered in the home when the occupants are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s with the former coal cellar still in situ underground & so, No Window. There are a gross number of those murderers who have Never been Caught.
Only JonBenet’s family are treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have Read ANY Case Evidence, you’ve just watched TV & picked out the bits that Suit your personality type & then bang on with a load of garbage about a crime that you know Nothing about & do your best to constantly denigrate these very kind people who you Never KNEW.
Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household.
Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you now Criminal Geniuses & Incessantly for over 26 Years, without even any Respect for the murdered Child.
THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who had to suffer in silence & even More So due to certain members of the Boulder PD who got great Enjoyment from deliberately leaking false & misleading information to the media, for no other reason than to save their own Incompetent asses.
You should all be Ashamed of yourselves, the rest of the world Sure IS.
Only absolute Morons would believe that someone would Handwrite a particularly violent ransom note yet first stop to think up 5 quotes from 5 violent movies about kidnapping scenarios & go on to do all that using their Own notepad paper plus their Own marker & Then leave both of those items near their phone For The COPS!.
Steve Thomas started all this Abysmal fiasco against this whole family by blaming JB’s mother. He was in Fact nothing but a Useless adversary with Plans to cash in from the very Beginning. He tried Very hard to pave his way in gold, he Failed at that also. Many followed his lead by playing the Paid Piper game & so, the same shit from soo many ugly mouth victim bashers is Still hitting the fan on fooltube.
If the public knew Everything that these vilest of highly sadistic sociopaths Really did to this little girl & all that they did in that house, when her family were Asleep, You the public would - Freak the hell out.
Law Enforcement proved them Innocent a Long time ago & then Finally, the Official & very public announcement in 2008, they were Exonerated. It’s more than Way over time to leave them in Peace.
People say ‘these types of cases’ & quote various numbers about ‘statistics showing’ - in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
It would be Very interesting to conduct a survey in the U.S., to find out the percentage of the Ramsey bashers who Do NOT Have - a Four storey 7,000 square foot Mansion - nor 2 private planes, a designer built yacht, a centrefold holiday house & money to Burn. Envy is a Sin you know.
The Ramseys happened to be wealthy at the time - this is what their money got them - never to see the inside of their wonderful home ever again, total destruction of their day to day lives & on medication daily. Whilst the keystone Cops were - deliberately putting out False & Misleading information about them to the media, the Cops constantly accusing them of their child’s murder & the Cops lining up a grand jury to see if they could get them Both indicted for the torture & murder of their Own Child yet the Cops had Zero evidence against them. But people say, that their money Bought the cops. Doh.
They went Broke trying to find the killer of their Precious child.
Their stories Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed. Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his first ever homicide case so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. *At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.*
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters are Patsy’s letter ‘samples’ that she did for the cops. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a whole bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who included expert Seasoned investigators who Had to be brought into this case, various expert Crime Scene techs & several expert DNA & several forensic Scientists from different high tech labs.
Like soo many other highly ignorant Ramsey bashers, you Really need to stick to your one hour made up TV crime shows, that tell ya the ending, True crime is obviously Way over your head.
Yeah, for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass numpties, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & y’all being soo Thick in the head, to you, they must have been soo Stupid, they didn’t even known that Colorado had the Death Penalty.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public. All TV shows - make Money from the Public. Radio - makes Money from the Public. Writers of books - make Money from the Public. So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic torture & then the very brutal murder. For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since. All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case. But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public. All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars. Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous.
Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered.
And the Public are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV. But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back. He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL. Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas would always talk about the book he was going to write. Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet. Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO. No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered. According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window. According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty. Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!. The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example. CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, it's all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months. The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator. The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name. With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA. More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs. The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & besides all manner of investigative procedures being done, more evidence items are being sent away for current forensic & DNA testing. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
Yeah for all you victim annihilators John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being So dumb, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey bashers, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty.
FYI - there are a gross number of people who are murdered in the home when other people are there sleeping.
Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s, coal cellar still in situ, no window.
There are a gross number of those killers who have Never been Caught.
Only JB’s family are Treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, of Course. None of you have read ANY Case Evidence, you watch TV & pick out the bits that Suit Your Character.
Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household.
Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you Criminal Geniuses for 26 Years & without even Any mercy for their tortured then murdered Child.
THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who suffered in silence & even More So due to the high number of Monstrous people in the public domain.
What part of Exonerated do you Not understand?
You should all have a Really good look at Yourselves in the Mirror, the rest of the world sure Is.
@@bethryan9077okay John Ramsey, we get it. But no, you and your wife were NEVER eliminated as suspects at any point and are *still* the only suspects in her death. The Grand Jury found more than enough evidence to bring murder charges against John and Patsy Ramsey, folks. It was the D.A. who declined to press charges and bring them to court, and he lied about the Grand Jury’s decision. The DNA evidence also does not eliminate Patsy Ramsey whatsoever.
Patsy killed Jon-Benet. All of the evidence, and I mean ALL OF IT, points to no one else on this planet, alive or dead, other than *Patsy Ramsey* - she is beyond the judgment of man but not the judgment of God.
@@bethryan9077 Ok, now pull that hand out of your ass, sock puppet.
All kids wet their bed? It is not common for 6 year olds to wet their bed at all, much less every, single night. That is a clear indication of a physical or emotional problem.
This little girl did Not wet the bed very single night At All & it is a Fact that rarely happened but any grimy & salacious titbit for you Victim Bashers to get off on is fare game hey deary.
That's not true not all kids wet the bed, they do if they been and live in trauma.
It is a Fact that JB rarely wet the bed & that didn't happen that night. BTW - there is a Medical reason as to Why kids wet the bed at later ages.
@@bethryan9077 Again, your statement is Not True. There are multiple sources confirming you’re misinformed AGAIN.
@@bethryan9077literally can’t watch a video about this without seeing you in the comments, being ultra defensive
I'm a retired cop. Those marks are NOT from a stun gun. Anyone who spent even a few years as a cop knows that those marks are NOT from a stun gun. Idk what caused them- but stun guns from that period couldn't leave those type of marks.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
supposedly a piece of train track could make such a wound, and they just happened to have a toy train in the basement.
@@jamesrav You need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - His Scam. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangular. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter - Saw all the evidence known at that time, that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke. Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer". There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was put online but it's there now. Obviously the 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public.
@@bethryan9077who are you and what makes you think you know anything? The parents did it and you know it! Get a life
@@jamesrav That'd be plausible to me.
My daughter was born in the same room of the same hospital in Atlanta where JonBenet was born. We weren't rich. But JonBenet's family had "everything", She died at 6 years old. And my daughter has thrived with a wonderful life. Life is just too strange and terrifying.
Being rich is what the Ramsey's had in their favor.
I'm sure plenty of babies were born in the same room there you got your fifteen minutes of fame
She didn’t have parents to protect her. I am stunned, in that neighborhood everyone has advanced security systems for their homes.
@@alexandrasymeon5893 So, according to Your thought processes - John paid off about 20 police, 3 DAs & assistant DAs from more than one jurisdiction & then Michael Dougherty, multiple seasoned investigators, the best criminal profiler in the country, one of the best homicide investigators in the country, at least one Federal Court Judge, many top forensic & DNA scientists from several labs over a span of 26 years, many expert crime scene techs, top forensic pathologists, now CeCe Moore, JB's paediatrician, FBI agents including those in charge of CODIS, Paula Woodward plus many other investigative journalists, lots of friends & acquaintances including neighbours, work colleagues, at least 2 Secret Service agents, 4 renowned private writing analysts, 3 of The best lie detector experts in the country, both of their pilots, many of their neighbours, plus the innumerable high cost attorneys in charge of multiple litigation cases as well as the first high cost attorneys who took charge of the representations for himself & Patsy & many of the family in relation to a number of reasons & that's just off the top of my head. REALLY? Just go back to Sleep.
@@AnitaAdamski To say that everyone in that neighbourhood HAS advanced security systems just speaks to how out of touch you are with the Year that this happened & your total Ignorance about the case in general. The Ramseys were Very protective & Very loving parents, as all who actually Knew them attested to.
As a father that has lost two sons , there is no faking crying a child's death . It shook me to my very spirit. If you were in a room with me it would have broken you down too. The parent's took that little angels life !!!!!
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.* Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
*The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public.* The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys 'factually innocent' due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. The 93 page document of her findings is online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong, both Scam artists & both Proven LIARS, in more than one court of Law. Cina Wong was Never a Qualified writing analyst At All as Carnes duly noted & she was outed as being any type of 'expert'. The libel case never went to trial, it was dismissed.
Another long held secret by Wong - she had previously sent Patsy an email & stated that she would testify For her, as to Not writing the note. Patsy ignored her, did not reply.
Later on to find her version of fame, Wong put out a video for TV which included Fake writing samples as IF Patsy's writing & letter ‘samples’ & as IF from the police files with her whiteboard list of Fake letters still being put up as pages of two columns on Many fooltube shows. People are soo gullible & that's what Both of those a##wipes Relied upon to - Make Money. Both of them Failed, as have Many since.
All manner of Con Artists came out of the woodwork trying to find their version of fame & to line their own pockets, off the back of this still high profile crime about a child's sadistic torture & very brutal murder that Nobody Talks About because very few have Bothered to Find Out the TRUE Details of everything that was done to this 6 year old little girl. The bottom feeder story tellers keep coming for endless utube ‘shows’, like the plethora of TV shows before, because soo many people are naïve, soo many are easily brainwashed & then the new generations who know even Less. That CBS show put out in 2016 was totally Bogus & that’s why CBS & the whole gang of Paid Pipers were mightily Sued, but it sure put new Ramsey bashers in such a new Frenzy, people don’t even stop & think, that because the case has Never been to Trial, the Case Evidence has Never Been Released & so, y’all know absolutely Nothing, except fairy tales.
*The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Already being Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also, he is hispanic.*
*Jim Clemente & James Kolar spearheaded that CBS farcical production & every single one of those scumbag Con Artists knew all about the Facts of the DNA. They also knew very well exactly Why the Ramseys were Proven Innocent way back when Most had Forgotten, not born then, too young to Know. They made up that whole story & deliberately went for Burke, knowing that the public did Not know much at all, as is true Today.
And that’s just another reason why CBS & every one of those A##holes were Sued for $750 million. CBS settled the case out of court, to save their investors, some money.*
The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues, with many putting out New made up stories for the titillation factor, now for Views, meaning $$.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day, Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.*
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Find that online & read it, Slowly.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Recently a cold case team were put together & are on the job. They have also been given the go-ahead to have more evidence items sent away for the even More advanced DNA analysis & processes. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
N.B. The general public need to Comprehend that - NOBODY would try to disguise their Handwriting, by Writing a 365 words & numbers Ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops, detectives, seasoned homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase - and For The Cops, to have just plopped the sharpie used in the pen cup & put the notepad on the hall table.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books & TV shows, get Ruthless.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. That was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This very heinous plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. Now y’all can start again & Think for a Change.
There was Never going to be Any justice when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of this child’s murder case & who had No priority except for covering their Incompetent asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all.
The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were Responsible For Starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious behaviour.
I’m so sorry for your loss. My parents also went thru this. But to assume these parents are guilty because of how they may have acted is ludicrous. Everyone is different. I ,for one have ‘reverse affect’ disorder. Sometimes when I hear terrible news an embarrassing smile is on my face. My brother and sister also have the disorder. Everyone handles trauma differently!
I have lost two children and you cannot say how a parent will react to a child's death. My daughter died 2 hours after birth and I grieved that death completely differently than when my oldest son died at 25.
WHY ARE YOU SO INTO CASE? are you just as interested in non white non blonde, blue eyed non beautiful little non wealthy beauty queens? who do not have bio mother and father married and all living together and dad works? @@bethryan9077
My best girlfriend's dad died and when she told me I laughed out loud! I never forgave myself for hurting her that way. We were 10 years old.
The weirdest thing to me has always been: Why was Patsy wearing the same clothes from the day before. She was a former beauty pageant participant, and it seems hard to understand why she was dressed this way. There are many other issues too.
The Ramseys were up so early that morning because they were to head to their holiday house in Charlevoix on their private plane. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that desperate but very frustrating 911 call, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies - for Help, who lived Close By. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. BTW - the Cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come who also arrived early that morning. The Ramseys did Nothing to themselves by way of ‘how they acted’ at all & the 8 cops & detectives Present that day, had No problems believing they were Genuine. Officer Rick French was the first person & officer to arrive, within 6 minutes of the Start of the 911 call. He saw that Patsy was near hysterical & at point of collapse & he had her & John sit in the sunroom. He did a cursory look around then officer Veitch arrived.. Of the 8 cops & detectives who arrived at various times that morning, nobody was searching for JB, it was a Ransom note. Except for Arndt, all were gone by about 10.30 a.m.
Linda Arndt didn't arrive til 8.10 a.m. & With detective Patterson. At different times early that morning, 3 cops were tasked with checking entry & exit points only, all 3 Failed at that job. 2 of those 3 officers plus one taking photos went down the basement at different times, all 3 failed to flip the latch down on the top of the cellar door, pull open the door & go in. All 3 saw gear in front of the train room door & by-passed that door, as did Fleet White. The broken window is Not where the perps entered the house, but the BPD went to great lengths to make sure that the public Still don’t know that Their cops didn’t even know about that window til that Evening, when they went back. That’s why the ‘famous’ photo of the open window, shows that it was taken in the Night.
Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a Frenzy because the child was found murdered in the home after 1 pm., when many cops had been there for Many hours. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. What better way to shut the Ramseys up about the cops’ Failings that morning than to throw mud at the Ramseys & they used the Media to do that. Within one week, the Ramseys were ducking for cover & the cops were cleaning their nails.
Many weeks later, Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like that & quit. Her next job was as a tree lopper.
*It was the lousy Cops who should have found JB & early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon & he did Not go ‘straight to the cellar’.
Arndt tried to sue the BPD for Money but the lost the case. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too.. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain due to the court case & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview on national TV. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to do all she could to help find the killer.
Due to Arndt’s stories in that hilarious interview - many of the public believe that Arndt was the first officer at the scene & many believe she was the Only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, but her & the BPD are more than happy for the public to believe That BS as Well. It was Her who carried the body to the living room rug near the Xmas tree.
Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That either - for her breakout debut with a numbskull reporter whose only job was to try & keep a straight face.
The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke separately to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. They did Everything the cops asked them to do. John asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas was an ex-narcotics officer & had No experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. Thomas constantly talked about the Book he was going to write & if anyone went against His theory, they were ridiculed & ostracized. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The Present investigators had No concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house. False & misleading information was being leaked to the media. The cops were made to publicly Apologise later for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. The Ramseys organised to do the Formal interview for when they returned from Atlanta burying their daughter, the cops cancelled that interview as they did more than once. It didn’t go ahead til April, big Deal. Loads of people don’t do formal interviews At All & lots don’t speak to the cops Ever. The Ramseys still had Nothing to Hide & they went on national TV soo many times, nobody can count the number up right. Being interviewed by all & sundry & being asked about the same Hurtful aspects over & over again whilst being Accused & being open to the scrutiny of all the loons to squawk about every blink of an eye, while the ever accusing keystone cops were doing Jackshit trying to find the sadistic murderer of their child. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. The Ramseys went broke trying to find who murdered their child & hoped to Save another. When the money ran out, many Seasoned investigators continued the search Unpaid. Not one of them have written a Book. *What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue to this day.* The current info about the DNA has been national news for over 2 years, only the highly ignorant Ramsey bashers ignore that Scientific evidence. CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case, asking for the DNA evidence items.
Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that & a pair of black pants to the White’s Xmas night dinner. They were up so early on the 26th because they were to take their plane to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at the Minneapolis airport & then all were going to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again. That morning, she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She planned on having a bath when they got to their holiday house, after the long flight. That house had everything they needed.
Patsy found the note & only read to about - ‘we have your daughter’ & raced back upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he told her to call the police. She was using the wall phone in the alcove near the kitchen, John was on the floor reading the note over & over Then. The public need to find out about the layout of that Huge 4 level mansion. Patsy had been racing around a long distance plus the spiral staircase 2 times - in shock & great fear, she was so stressed that she couldn’t even get her words out at the Very Beginning of that Desperate 911 call & what came out was Babble.
In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Really had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played TIl the End & all would have heard “Patsy, Patsy” ..... CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. There was a cupboard under that wall phone, if Patsy had forgot to hang up, all would have heard “hurry hurry hurry”, Clunk - “Patsy Patsy” ..... CLICK.
The various made up Stories about ‘red’ fibres from Patsy’s sweater, also Not true.
One needs to think about the Major Players behind this made up Saga of who did what - Steve Thomas put it all on Patsy, Linda Arndt decided Later that she’d blame John & James Kolar chose Burke - neither of these so-called 'police' had Ever worked a murder case before or after but, they were all about writing a Book. Each one put their mugs on National TV, trying for fame & fortune, they Failed at that job also. All 3 are such an Embarrassment for law enforcement around the world & then there’s the Fact that they’re all Proven liars.
Patsy was in PJ,s and she hung up with 911. She went to her room and grabbed the clothing right on top of the hamper. It would have been odd had she taken the time to select an outfit😂
@@dishdog215patsy apparently dressed and did her make up and hair b4 going downstairs and finding the ransom note, not after phoning the police
She’s wearing the same clothes from the night before because she never went to bed(?)
@@duvessa2003 Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that with black leather pants to the White’s Xmas dinner. On the 26th, they were to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at Minneapolis airport & all flying on to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again so she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. That house had everything they needed & she planned on having a bath when they got there, after the long flight
I’m with you sir. Why does the interviewer keep making excuses no matter what is said. What are the associations that the parents have, are they in a secret society? Why were all these people allowed to walk all over the house? Anyone can fake anything & make people believe it.
So sad, my own daughter was a couple months older than JB, hence my interest. God knows exactly what happened & He will serve justice!
I agree
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.* Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
*The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public.* The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys 'factually innocent' due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. The 93 page document of her findings is online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong, both Scam artists & both Proven LIARS, in more than one court of Law. Cina Wong was Never a Qualified writing analyst At All as Carnes duly noted & she was outed as being any type of 'expert'. The libel case never went to trial, it was dismissed.
Another long held secret by Wong - she had previously sent Patsy an email & stated that she would testify For her, as to Not writing the note. Patsy ignored her, did not reply.
Later on to find her version of fame, Wong put out a video for TV which included Fake writing samples as IF Patsy's writing & letter ‘samples’ & as IF from the police files with her whiteboard list of Fake letters still being put up as pages of two columns on Many fooltube shows. People are soo gullible & that's what Both of those a##wipes Relied upon to - Make Money. Both of them Failed, as have Many since.
All manner of Con Artists came out of the woodwork trying to find their version of fame & to line their own pockets, off the back of this still high profile crime about a child's sadistic torture & very brutal murder that Nobody Talks About because very few have Bothered to Find Out the TRUE Details of everything that was done to this 6 year old little girl. The bottom feeder story tellers keep coming for endless utube ‘shows’, like the plethora of TV shows before, because soo many people are naïve, soo many are easily brainwashed & then the new generations who know even Less. That CBS show put out in 2016 was totally Bogus & that’s why CBS & the whole gang of Paid Pipers were mightily Sued, but it sure put new Ramsey bashers in such a new Frenzy, people don’t even stop & think, that because the case has Never been to Trial, the Case Evidence has Never Been Released & so, y’all know absolutely Nothing, except fairy tales.
*The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Already being Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also, he is hispanic.*
*Jim Clemente & James Kolar spearheaded that CBS farcical production & every single one of those scumbag Con Artists knew all about the Facts of the DNA. They also knew very well exactly Why the Ramseys were Proven Innocent way back when Most had Forgotten, not born then, too young to Know. They made up that whole story & deliberately went for Burke, knowing that the public did Not know much at all, as is true Today.
And that’s just another reason why CBS & every one of those A##holes were Sued for $750 million. CBS settled the case out of court, to save their investors, some money.*
The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues, with many putting out New made up stories for the titillation factor, now for Views, meaning $$.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day, Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.*
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Find that online & read it, Slowly.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Recently a cold case team were put together & are on the job. They have also been given the go-ahead to have more evidence items sent away for the even More advanced DNA analysis & processes. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
N.B. The general public need to Comprehend that - NOBODY would try to disguise their Handwriting, by Writing a 365 words & numbers Ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops, detectives, seasoned homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase - and For The Cops, to have just plopped the sharpie used in the pen cup & put the notepad on the hall table.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books & TV shows, get Ruthless.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. That was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This very heinous plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. Now y’all can start again & Think for a Change.
There was Never going to be Any justice when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of this child’s murder case & who had No priority except for covering their Incompetent asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all.
The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were Responsible For Starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious behaviour.
BTW - are You in a secret society?
I believe that JBR was sold to Hollywood and the body found in basement wasn't infact JBR but another deceased lil girl that suffered abuse S.A. until her demise and her body used to fake the murder of JBR and now JBR is a Hollywood entertainer / performer known as Katie perry...
@@bethryan9077 I don’t think there are many secret societies left. The last Freemason I knew died in 1967. Today’s men seem to have neither the time nor interest to dress up and go play with other guys. It’s kind of sad. My dad was an Amateur Mendicant, the Detroit chapter of the Old Soldiers of Baker street, or the Old SOBS. They’d get together once a month for decades, eat, drink, and talk about Sherlock Holmes. I was 11 before I found out Holmes wasn’t real.
I think Burke did it accidentally and Patsy had to make it look like an intruder killed JonBenet.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family. If you’re actually a tax payer, well, You’re paying.
Think for a minute. Jon Benet was tasered, her mouth was covered with duct tape. She was carried down two flights of stairs, her skull was bashed in with what the medical examiner said was a small hammer, a broken paintbrush handle was pushed into her vagina, leaving splinters and tearing her hymen, her body was covered in contusions, a very elaborate garrote was constructed. One to three hours following the head injury, the garrote was placed around her neck and tightened cutting into her skin. Does this sound like a 9 year old accidentally killing his sister?
Same
Well, there is a tarot card reader, Janine, a Canadian reader, who channels as well as reads. She channeled JBR over a year ago, and she was shown that the parents had a party in which she and other children were dressed up prettily and were being passed around to sit on the laps of men who were sizing them up for their use. These parties, allegedly, were held routinely so that men who had an appetite for young flesh could select the child they wanted. She was shown this in pictures not words.
During the reading, JB also appeared to be happy and more focused on her PRESENT state of happiness rather than on blaming ANYONE for what happened to her. Janine did not press for verbal details from the child. But she was able to deduce what the circumstances were of JB's last night on earth.
Then she was shown that JBR's brother also sometimes participated in what these men would do to the various children and HE was the one who actually did it, but it was an accident. Janine concluded that the mother wrote the ransom note in order to cover up for the son. Patsy herself was, reportedly, heard to mutter under her breath during the initial police investigation, "That wasn't supposed to happen."
By the way, I was told about five years ago by a doctor who lives in Boulder, CO that Boulder is the child sex trafficking capital of the world. She also revealed that "Everybody in Boulder knows that those parents pimped that child out; and everybody knows that Patsy Ramsey killed that child." She said it matter-of-factly, not speculatively.
So, it is believable that a man would be obsessed with her, if she was indeed passed around for financial gain for the parents. That's what those child beauty pageants are all about really: children for hire by pedos.
Some years ago, I read a book by an investigative reporter (whose name escapes me) who concluded that the MOTHER killed her. That was just his opinion based on his investigation of the case.
We may never know for sure. But she is certainly free NOW, God bless her soul.
@@earthangel2522 You sure do have a despicable sickness in your mind, go get Help. BTW saddo, the Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a whole bunch of Actual experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who included expert Seasoned investigators who had to be brought into this case, expert Crime Scene techs & expert DNA & forensic Scientists. These never ending 'shows' keep coming for the Entertainment of all you loathsome Victim Bashers to get off on. I pity you in particular.
I read a medical report of this little girl where allegedly recurring often vaginal infections were an issue and her intimate parts were larger for her age. Very disturbing , giving you a clue that she was sexually molested !!
RIP 😇🙏🏼
None of that is true, NONE.
She did visit the pediatrician several times for irritations and infections - uncommon for typical six year olds. She also wet her bed NIGHTLY per their housekeeper which is a huge red flag for sex abuse. And finally, police found a dictionary on the table in the Ramsey house with the page folded back and pointing to the word 'incest'
bladder infections is what I heard and either way, yes, it is a sign of sexual abuse. That would also explain her bed wetting. The damages abused children suffer is a tragedy.
@@linanicolia1363 I don’t see Anyone railing against all those who Make Up from their sick Heads, all the despicable garbage, which is them Accusing JonBenet Herself, of all the Vile incest & paedophile acts that they conjure up with Glee & post proudly.
Of the Hundreds of such comments & Stories that I’ve read from these abhorrent so-called human beings, Nobody says a friggin Thing to them. What a National Disgrace.
Hang on that’s right, Lots of Other so-called human beings Do say certain things to them, they Agree with them. And because they’re of the Same Ilk, they’re Bolstered to post Their sick thought processes about the same Vile acts, incest & paedophilia, all about this Child, including 9 year old Burke sometimes & no-one rebukes them in Any way.
There was never one Skerrick of evidence that JB was previously sexually molested Nor one Skerrick of evidence that JB was previously sexually abused. Not one Skerrick about Burke either. Yet the Ramseys & their Kids are very cruelly subjected to a round-robin of particularly grotesque accusations that include - child sacrifice, satanic worship scenarios, pedos at the garden parties, selling their child, their friends being Allowed to abuse their child, society members being Allowed to abuse their child including Of Course, Epstein & so on & so on - on it goes, Incessantly.
According to the same so-called human beings, because the Ramseys were wealthy at the time, all of the above is what they did with their spare time.
Nobody Ever mentions that the Ramseys had deep faith in God & were avid church goers.
One can pop over to the many videos about the Chris Watt’s murder case. Let me know when you find Anyone who has posted Any comment about Him sexually abusing his little girls Or any other comment about a gang of his friends who did the same & worse.
Of all the Hundreds of videos about same subject & victimology, Nobody talks about Any of Those kids as soo many do about This, highly intelligent 6 year old murdered little girl.
Shame on you all.
BTW - what part of Exonerated do you Not understand?
Yea. She was highly sexualized. Or what they called mature. 😢
I always believed that the brother hit her over the head cause he was jealous. They thought she was dead but she was unconscious. The parents covered it up
You too need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' that went to air in 2016 - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - the new SCAM. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & all those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangles. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in days later as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter - Saw all the evidence known at that time, that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke. Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer". There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was uploaded online but it's there now. Obviously certain sly cops, 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public.
To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing.
Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place.
Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either.
N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk.
They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That.
Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true.
He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking.
The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show.
One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs.
When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$.
In the U.S., for the past 3 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up.
DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003.
People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB.
People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
@@bethryan9077you are SO OBSESSED with this case !!!
@@bethryan9077how do you know the flashlight was not the Ramseys? Patsy stated “my Husband had one similar” later on, also if it was used they wouldn’t admitt it to being theirs
Oh and I think it was Burke who hit her due to her being annoying and taking his pineapple. Simple is often the truth
You need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - His Scam. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangular. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter - Saw all the evidence known at that time, that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke. Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer". There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was put online but it's there now. Obviously the 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public
Silly.
Occam's razor...would actually say something ELSE
@@HumanimalChannel This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
*BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS?* Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing.
Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place.
Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either.
N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk.
They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That.
Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true.
He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking.
The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show.
One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs.
When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$.
In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up.
DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003.
People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB.
People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
Why don’t you just be Honest & Say that you watched that CBS ‘show’ & believed it all? Hmm. You copycat Their ridiculous scenario As If you had an epiphany & You worked it all out. LOL. And your ‘brainwave’ is from a few photos - cord on a stick, pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench & writing on some pages. You ALL repeat Exactly the same crap from That show, yet you ALL Fail to acknowledge That’s where your ‘idea’ from. Yawn. In total, it’s an absolute Tell about the character Type of soo many of you who mouth off about poor Burke in the comment sections.
BTW - the kids had been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m., that Xmas day morning, playing all day & with friends & again for half the night at the White’s Xmas dinner party. The Ramseys left to go home at about 9 p.m., making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when she got in the car. She was only 6 years old, she did Not wake up after that. None of you bright sparks can even realise That simple aspect, which also says, a whole lot about your brain cells.
The ridiculous ransom note is what makes me believe someone in that home (Patsy or Burke) murdered Jon Benet.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who in said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
@@bethryan9077 if you have to write a novel made up almost exclusively of unprovable scenarios to make the crime scene made sense without the Ramseys being involved it’s probably time to wake up.
@@legacyXplore This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise their Handwriting by Writing 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - earlier this year a cold case team were put together & they’re now on the job. Besides the previous said DNA being allocated for the even more Advanced analysis, other evidence items are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.* Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
*The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public.* The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys 'factually innocent' due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. The 93 page document of her findings is online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong, both Scam artists & both Proven LIARS, in more than one court of Law. Cina Wong was Never a Qualified writing analyst At All as Carnes duly noted & she was outed as being any type of 'expert'. The libel case never went to trial, it was dismissed.
Another long held secret by Wong - she had previously sent Patsy an email & stated that she would testify For her, as to Not writing the note. Patsy ignored her, did not reply.
Later on to find her version of fame, Wong put out a video for TV which included Fake writing samples as IF Patsy's writing & letter ‘samples’ & as IF from the police files with her whiteboard list of Fake letters still being put up as pages of two columns on Many fooltube shows. People are soo gullible & that's what Both of those a##wipes Relied upon to - Make Money. Both of them Failed, as have Many since.
All manner of Con Artists came out of the woodwork trying to find their version of fame & to line their own pockets, off the back of this still high profile crime about a child's sadistic torture & very brutal murder that Nobody Talks About because very few have Bothered to Find Out the TRUE Details of everything that was done to this 6 year old little girl. The bottom feeder story tellers keep coming for endless utube ‘shows’, like the plethora of TV shows before, because soo many people are naïve, soo many are easily brainwashed & then the new generations who know even Less. That CBS show put out in 2016 was totally Bogus & that’s why CBS & the whole gang of Paid Pipers were mightily Sued, but it sure put new Ramsey bashers in such a new Frenzy, people don’t even stop & think, that because the case has Never been to Trial, the Case Evidence has Never Been Released & so, y’all know absolutely Nothing, except fairy tales.
*The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Already being Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also, he is hispanic.*
*Jim Clemente & James Kolar spearheaded that CBS farcical production & every single one of those scumbag Con Artists knew all about the Facts of the DNA. They also knew very well exactly Why the Ramseys were Proven Innocent way back when Most had Forgotten, not born then, too young to Know. They made up that whole story & deliberately went for Burke, knowing that the public did Not know much at all, as is true Today.
And that’s just another reason why CBS & every one of those A##holes were Sued for $750 million. CBS settled the case out of court, to save their investors, some money.*
The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues, with many putting out New made up stories for the titillation factor, now for Views, meaning $$.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day, Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.*
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Find that online & read it, Slowly.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Recently a cold case team were put together & are on the job. They have also been given the go-ahead to have more evidence items sent away for the even More advanced DNA analysis & processes. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
N.B. The general public need to Comprehend that - NOBODY would try to disguise their Handwriting, by Writing a 365 words & numbers Ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops, detectives, seasoned homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase - and For The Cops, to have just plopped the sharpie used in the pen cup & put the notepad on the hall table.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books & TV shows, get Ruthless.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. That was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This very heinous plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. Now y’all can start again & Think for a Change.
There was Never going to be Any justice when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of this child’s murder case & who had No priority except for covering their Incompetent asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all.
The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were Responsible For Starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious behaviour.
Yes, I agree, the parents thought they could cover up. At the end of the day it was them. They got away with murder.
Look life today is not valued. Children are killed every day. It's not a lie. And people try to get away with crime every day.
The ransom letter couldn’t have been written by anybody but Patsy…not just the obvious handwriting, but the wording, turns of phrase, esoteric references…only someone in her circles would even get half of what she’s talking about: “foreign faction”, etc.
😂😂😂well, at least you figured it out.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who in said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
You really think so? Why?
@@bethryan9077Very curious as to where you're getting this information.
@@thirdeyyye I did reply to you yesterday but this a##wipe is deleting everything I have posted recently as he has been doing on & off for many months. If you receive this reply, let me know & I will try answering your question again.
I heard the cops told John Ramsey and his friend Fleet White to go look thru the house… and they just happened to find the dead kid. There will never be Justice for little JonBenet
i still think burk hit her with a flash light and the parents covered for him
@@roslynstorms8078 no, didnt happen that way. pedophiles love pagents with kids dressed up like a snack.....do the math
I have always thought that Burke did it out of jealousy because his sister would have got a massive amount of attention with her beauty pageants etc. The parents covered it up because they didn't want to lose both of their children!
i think the same
You need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - His Scam. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangular. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter - Saw all the evidence known at that time, that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke. Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer". There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was put online but it's there now. Obviously the 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public.
@@fifi19ism To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing.
Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place.
Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either.
N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk.
They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That.
Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true.
He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking.
The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show.
One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs.
When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$.
In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up.
DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003.
People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB.
People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
Agree 100% @@fifi19ism
@@fifi19ism Burke is way too meek and scared of Patsy, there is no friggin way. I have told my thoughts on burke to people like yourself who thought Burke was the killer. After they read my comment I had about 8 or nine comments to me from "Burke people" and they told me "You just changed my whole view about this. I now agree with you" comments like that. I wish I could remember what I clip or vid. it was. Hey, you could be right fifi, I am not a pro or a mind reader. Patsy Ramsey was a very sick and mentally unstable person. JonBenet wet the bed for the last time. Mommy dearest snapped after seeing the wet bed and snapped. THAT is my feeling, and nothing will ever change it. Does it make it true ? No, it doesn`t, and you may very well be correct. But Like JFK, we will never know the truth. Secrets will go to the grave. Of course a Presidential assassination is a HUGE difference, but I am only speaking about evidence lost and people staying silent forever, and taking those secrets to the grave. At the end of the day, it is a sad, tragic event where a beautiful young child has lost her life to violence. All the best to you !!
Chris has a good point when he says people ask “what evidence do you have that the parents did it”? Then he said “did you forget the little part that a six year old girl was tortured and murdered in their house while they were home”?! So frustrating..
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
Deary, he Failed to Answer the fkn Question. How is That 'a good point?' LMAO. Doh. Yeah in the blighted eyes of all you victim annihilators, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves & also according to your ever so proud Cult of Ramsey Bashers, apparently being absolute Imbeciles, they must have had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty.
FYI - there are a gross number of adults & kids who are murdered in the home when the occupants are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s with the former coal cellar still in situ underground & so, No Window. There are a gross number of those murderers who have Never been Caught.
Only JonBenet’s family are treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have Read ANY Case Evidence, you’ve just watched TV & picked out the bits that Suit your personality type & then bang on with a load of garbage about a crime that you know Nothing about & do your best to constantly denigrate these very kind people who you Never KNEW.
Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household.
Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you now Criminal Geniuses & Incessantly for over 26 Years, without even any Respect for the murdered Child.
THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who had to suffer in silence & even More So due to certain members of the Boulder PD who got great Enjoyment from deliberately leaking false & misleading information to the media, for no other reason than to save their own Incompetent asses.
You should all be Ashamed of yourselves, the rest of the world Sure IS.
Only absolute Morons would believe that someone would Handwrite a particularly violent ransom note yet first stop to think up 5 quotes from 5 violent movies about kidnapping scenarios & go on to do all that using their Own notepad paper plus their Own marker & Then leave both of those items near their phone For The COPS!.
Steve Thomas started all this Abysmal fiasco against this whole family by blaming JB’s mother. He was in Fact nothing but a Useless adversary with Plans to cash in from the very Beginning. He tried Very hard to pave his way in gold, he Failed at that also. Many followed his lead by playing the Paid Piper game & so, the same shit from soo many ugly mouth victim bashers is Still hitting the fan on fooltube.
If the public knew Everything that these vilest of highly sadistic sociopaths Really did to this little girl & all that they did in that house, when her family were Asleep, You the public would - Freak the hell out.
Law Enforcement proved them Innocent a Long time ago & then Finally, the Official & very public announcement in 2008, they were Exonerated. It’s more than Way over time to leave them in Peace.
Did he miss the fact that there was extensive physical evidence found at the murder site and all of it exonerated the Ramseys.
@@nbenefiel I'm sure he did miss or not mentioned that as he has his mind set. I for one do not. Over all these years I've gone back and forth re theories too. Used to think it was an accident but I can never accept her parents would stage that strangulation. I wish we knew who and why. Over the years I was also very shocked to hear the number amount of sex offenders that were in miles of their house. Even one somewhere across the street where the kids used to play when their dog went over there. It's a perplexing case. Just want justice for that sweet little girl. 😢
A jealous sibling could do that even if they young. Guess we will never know
Chris's testimony and reasoning is impeccable. We have seen so many cases of mothers or fathers who have brutally tortured their children, cases where they punished them and ended up killing the child and then working frantically to cover it up. I truly believe Chris may be a 100% correct on this one. John even distanced himself from Patsy when he got lawyers. I suspect that was a personal lawyer advised move just in case it turned out they discovered Patsy did it and they decided to charge her. This way, he might manage to escape prosecution or make a plea bargain by having separate lawyers. Such a sad thing. Sad also that such things happen far more often than people want to admit.
Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass Idiots, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
It’s insane. The DNA alone excludes anyone related to JonBenet. This was no religious frenzy, it was a cold, premeditated sexual assault and murder.
Anyone in the Ramsey’s position who does not hire the best legal advice they can afford is an idiot. The Boulder PD was hiding evidence and leaking lies to the media. Some of those lies are still being repeated, like the bedwetting and pineapple. The BPD went way beyond incompetence well into criminality.
N this case, all of the actual evidence excludes the family, which is why none of them were ever charged with anything.
That over-used phrase, "Everyone grieves differently" really doesn't apply when it's your child.
this is how i think it happened: JB got up with and went downstairs carrying the pillow (on the counter); burke was eating pineapple; JB took his pineapple, he got mad, chased her downstairs with the flashlight. burke whacked her on the head and she died. he poked her with the train tracks to make her wake up. then he tells his parents Jb won't wake up. john staged the body while patsy wrote the ransom novel. then she called 911. they called people over to contaminate the crime scene on purpose. they paid off or threatened the PD to botch it up.
You need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - His Scam. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangular. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter - Saw all the evidence known at that time, that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke. Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer". There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was put online but it's there now. Obviously the 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public.
To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing.
Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place.
Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either.
N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk.
They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That.
Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true.
He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking.
The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show.
One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs.
When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$.
In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up.
DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003.
People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB.
People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him
Why don’t you just be Honest & Say that you watched that CBS ‘show’ & believed it all? Hmm. You copycat Their ridiculous scenario As If you had an epiphany & You worked it all out. LOL. And your ‘brainwave’ is from a few photos - cord on a stick, pineapple in a bowl, flashlight on a bench & writing on some pages. You ALL repeat Exactly the same crap from That show, yet you ALL Fail to acknowledge That’s where your ‘idea’ from. Yawn. In total, it’s an absolute Tell about the character Type of soo many of you who mouth off about poor Burke in the comment sections.
BTW - the kids had been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m., that Xmas day morning, playing all day & with friends & again for half the night at the White’s Xmas dinner party. The Ramseys left to go home at about 9 p.m., making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when she got in the car. She was only 6 years old, she did Not wake up after that. None of you bright sparks can even realise That simple aspect, which also says, a whole lot about your brain cells.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
Date on tombstone is very strange.
Wow. Wow! Thank you for giving Chris the opportunity to talk about his interpretation of the evidence and his theories. He is a rational thinker and is clearly passionate about finally resolving this case. If it is true that Chris had never investigated a murder case before Jon Benet’s, it doesn’t matter! He is intelligent and capable. His process is thorough and methodical; not only did he review all existing files (probably over and over again) … including all expert reports, forensic evidence and interviews… he read every book specific to this murder, he educated himself about human behavior, profiles and crime statistics relevant to this scenario, and he applied his research well to every detail in order to reach conclusions that he then pulled together into a likely progression of events before, during, and in the years following, the murder. Well done, Chris! Yours is the best explanation I’ve heard about how and why this poor little girl was brutally murdered. The interviewer is correct that most people find this whole mess, and the thought that a parent would kill their own child, hard to even wrap our heads around and believe. Although he is a good interviewer to challenge every point and demand Chris’ rationale for his conclusions, evidently Chris has become used to this, and has heard it all before. He did not seem offended by the questions and challenges, and though passionate, kept his cool. I believe he understands and appreciates that debates and consideration of every possible scenario brings us closer to the truth. As he worked his way through the investigation, and has had years to evaluate every nuance and possibility, he already thought through every exception and alternate theory…. at least, all that have been raised. Chris is accepting that his final analysis is, in the end, his own theory. As he himself admits, no one will probably ever know the exact play-by-play of that night, what every player did, nor definitively, why. There are many reasons for this, including the Boulder PD’s incompetence, a flurry of proven lies and cover-ups, and the death of many involved. We are all frustrated by this. We are left guessing. And most of us really don’t want to believe the parents were involved! But I for one learned a lot from Chris’ interview, and I believe … because he has done the footwork and defends it … that his is the best and “most likely” explanation for the series of events that occurred. Very shocking and sad, but it’s the best we can do. Thank you, Chris, well done.
HE'S TRYING TO MAKE MONEY!
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family. If you’re actually a tax payer, well, You’re paying.
I tend to agree!
Not about the money part(typo) I agree with what Chris theories are!
@@icanonlyimagine6410 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
I think he has great explanations. There are a lot of things you simply can't imagine but still there are parents who do awful things, sometimes in rage
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
*BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS?* Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
It's not perplexing at all... Burke did it - he hit her over the head with the mag light when she snatched a piece of his pineapple. And John and Patsy covered it up. Case closed.
@@LittleBlueOwl318it’s easy for any of us to spin our theories but we don’t really know. We never will.
True. If any one is going to put a theory out there, at least let it be an INFORMED theory. This guy Chris did his work, for many years, and it sounds like he left no stone unturned.
@@LittleBlueOwl318 You need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - His Scam. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangular. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter - Saw all the evidence known at that time, that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke. Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer". There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was put online but it's there now. Obviously the 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public.
You think it’s absurd that a mother would kill their daughter????? Have you been living under a rock?
I have always had the idea that makes me think Burke got mad at JonBenet and accidentally killed his sister and the Parents covered it up by the staging. They didn’t want to lose Burke.
I’m with you! She ate some of his pineapple snack & he went ballistic. I read that he’d hit his sister in the head with a golf club in the past.
You need to do some Actual research online instead of believing all that you read in books & see on TV Shows. That Bogus CBS 'show' - formatted to James Kolar's book of BS blaming Burke & that's why Kolar was present with meathead Clemente front & centre - His Scam. Sensationalism sells & soo many just lapped it all up yet the show was all about blaming a 9 year old Kid. CBS were mightily sued for the ‘gross misleading of the public’ & those lying Con Artists were included in the suit. CBS settled out of court & paid up with mega millions of $$$. The 2 so-called scientists, Lee & Spitz, were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. These 2 often worked as Paid Pipers for defence teams, for example - OJ Simpson, Michael Peterson, Caylee Anthony. *The X-ray of JB’s skull Shows that there were TWO Severe fractures. One was from the top of the head, front to back & Open to nearly the length of the skull. The other was a Hole & a Separate fracture, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. How does a whack on the head, by any means or from Any weapon produce Two fractures like That? It is a fact that if Either of the fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn't. At about 1.30 a.m., JB was choked with the cord to prevent a scream when in bed, tasered on her lower back to incapacitate her, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried down to the boiler room. Green tinsel from the stair railings was in her hair. She was given a lot of water over a period of Hours & tasered & tortured with the complex made Bondage Device - that was Not a garrotte & that's Why the Loops over the shirt at her wrists. All can source the photo of the whole thing. The Authentic autopsy report can be found online. The 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple in the bowl & as officer Haney told Patsy in the police interview of ’98. JB was never unconscious & there were dig marks from her nails in her skin At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The autopsy photos Clearly show those marks And the White flat nylon Cord that was left Embedded in her neck. The savage blows to the head were also pre-planned if the cops were called & occurred just after her death, 3 weapons, each in evidence & None were that flashlight. The 1st weapon used was a brick & that caused the 8” fracture from the top down the skull & the photo of the skull shows the impact from the brick, on the top of the head. The measurements Match. Some crime scene photos show the brick in the cellar. The 3rd weapon caused the hole that the 2nd started. One slam from the third, being the rounded handle end of the black steel ball bat, that the perps put on the half-wall outside of the butler's kitchen door where they exited from & left open after the cops left. The utility knife was left in the cellar & one tool was used to do small stabs in a shape to the skull, was broken off & never found. That large 15 tool utility knife did Not belong to Burke. From the position of the cord at the front of the neck & the necklace deliberately ‘caught’ at the bottom of the cord at the front, Proves JB was on her Back when strangled to death. As do the dig marks in her neck from her nails. It is Not a coincidence that the necklace was at first Held in that position & the gold cross was turned to the back. There were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the calf of one leg. A rusty log grabber was found in the cellar as seen in some photos. This was also used in another aspect of the crime before the perps left. The paintbrush was cut & broken into 3 parts & the whittling of the wood was only to implicate Burke - the housekeeper used to chat to the Barnhills, Glenn Meyer was ever listening. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsys. The end was used at JB's genitals & that caused bleeding that was wiped off with a blue cloth. The fibres are mentioned in the Authentic autopsy report. The tip was never found because some deviants keep trophies. Other vile acts occurred but too sensitive for this page but suffice to say that crime scene photos show the cut off end of an electrical cord hanging from the ceiling in the boiler room - some redness & slight swelling just inside the genitals, that scumbag Steve Thomas turned into ‘chronic sexual abuse’. The large pee stain on both the underpants & the long-johns is predominantly on the front & all-but to the waist on both, due to positioning earlier. This whole crime for money & revenge was set up to incriminate the whole family if the perps didn't get their quick cash. The taking of photos was their back-up for money. That CBS 'show' put up a doctored photo of JB's sheets with a big yellow stain when in fact JB did Not wet the bed. They swayed the public with 'some parts' that had been heard & read about previously & just twisted info to suit Their agenda. They said a ligature was 'wrapped around the neck as staging' & showed a Photo of a packet of blue rope. In the guest room, a blue rope was found in a bag, neither of those items belonged to the Ramseys. The abrasions at the base of her neck were due to the cord being tightened loosened tightened, some time Before the strangulation. Then there was the denial on that 'show' of any type of sexual attack at JB's genitals because the Real Facts of what happened to the child there, was too much of a stretch for their Audience to believe, that Burke would have done all, Or the parents & That's Why - They DIDN’T Talk About the huge fracture down the skull OR the Strangulation. And Then, they said the cops were looking for the wrong offender, as-in, looking for a pedo. Spitz had the Hide to say that the very small slithers of wood must have jumped into the vagina when John carried the body up the stairs & referred to That as contamination. Forensics proved the wood was from the paintbrush. Burke's train tracks had 3 steel pointy pins Not 2 blunt ones. Kolar made up That garbage from his head, saying Burke jabbed JB on the back, so 2 'abrasions'. Spitz said Burke did that when JB was Deceased because he knew full well that if still alive, 2 hard jabs would have caused bruising. The ME had No experience with stun guns Or tasers & that's why he noted as 'abrasions' in his first report. Renowned forensic pathologist, Michael Doberson Did have that experience & Stated - some type of stun gun. The type of Air Taser used has been identified & they were Burns, not abrasions, the shapes were rectangular. The Same burns on her face & under her ear, as on her back & are the same Width apart. The reason for the area hit near the brain, is about control - instant pain, little balance to walk & poor memory. The one on her face was bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs, 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns to his face, the second was on his ear lobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. Lee & Richardson donned white lab coats, had brown Labelled bags on a table As If evidence in those bags. Cops do Not give out Evidence. They did that Pathetic ‘demo’ about DNA, knowing Full Well the DNA was from 3 Different places - under JB’s fingernails, mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants & 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. They also Knew that the DNA from one of the perps had been in CODIS since 2003. **From this bogus show, the Story about the factory worker’s DNA on the underpants took hold. FAKE writing ‘samples’ as if Patsy’s & as if from police files, has been put on chalkboards since the books of BS were put on shelves. The public have Never seen Patsy’s writing. Unfortunately for the Ramseys, Steve Thomas was brought in as one of the investigators because the Present ones refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder case before. He thought he would make a name for himself from the high profile crime & constantly talked about the book he was going to write. The BPD were only interested in saving their own incompetent asses & went into damage control because the child was found in the home that afternoon by her poor father when - Their officers Should Have Found JB early that morning. They Hid lots of what they did & didn't do from the public & the Mayor pretended there was no maniac child killer running around town so the media were at the family Instead. Thomas & his cronies also Hid vital evidence from their superiors & the DA on several occasions including from the grand jury, Of Course.
Alex Hunter - Saw all the evidence known at that time, that pointed to an intruder, the public Did Not. Many years later, James Kolar was in the DA's office for a short time, got himself fired & went off to write His book of BS for financial gain - his Hook to reel in the Public, blame Burke. Beckner took over as Commander in Dec ’97 & he also made false statements to the media. He at least came to some realisations eventually & publicly stated "when the owner of the DNA is found, there's your killer". There have been Lots of so-called ‘experts’ who came out of the woodwork to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime. There are also many pages put on vids with 'typing' as If from police files, all Fake. It's nearly 26 years & the False information continues to go around about this case & it grows legs on a daily basis. I don't know when the autopsy photos, the authentic autopsy report & so much more was put online but it's there now. Obviously the 'authors' & promoters of documentaries & such Never expected any of the Actual Evidence to be available to the public.
@@cm1927 To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing.
Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place.
Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either.
N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk.
They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That.
Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true.
He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking.
The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show.
One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs.
When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$.
In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up.
DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003.
People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB.
People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
Logic here. One does not accidentally construct an extremely elaborate garrote, place it around a living person’s neck and tighten it until the person is dead, by accident. One does not push a broken paintbrush handle into a 6 year old’s vagina by accident. Every second of this vicious rape/murder was deliberately planned and committed. It was obviously first degree murder and in Colorado, in 1996 it was punishable by death.
It is a known fact that killers who have feelings for their victims will often wrap them in a blanket . This of course would explain how Jon Benet was found .
The perps used 2 blankets for 2 reasons, the taking of photos & then to thwart the temperature of rigor mortis. From their homework, they sure knew that certain cops & people like you would think exactly that. They were Not idiots, the keystone cops Were & soo many members of the public also.
@@bethryan9077 I’d give a lot to know where that pubic hair came from.
In other words, evidence implicating an outsider must be taken at face value, while evidence implicating a family member is just proof positive of what clever frameup artists those pesky "intruders" were.
There's a word for that sort of logical fallacy, which makes it impossible to draw any conclusion other than the desired conclusion, but I don't remember what that word is.
Those clever frameup artist intruders were also lucky. They derived good fortune from the fact that John Ramsey contaminated the crime scene and from the fact that the parents really didn't assist the investigation, choosing to lawyer up and publicize up instead.
@@nbenefiel Yes exactly me too.
@@65if2007 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise some letters of their handwriting, by Handwriting 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad used on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re now on the job. Besides the DNA from both perps being reanalysed with the Advanced technology, untested evidence items from the BPD's dungeon are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
Chris is the only dude that has made any sense about this since jump street
He isn’t afraid to share his insights
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
Anyone claiming Patsy killed her daughter in. Religious frenzy is a nutcase.
Chris is spreading misinformation. I dont know how this guy got a interview but hes lying about a lot of things.
No one hears Burke at the end of the 911 call because his voice isn’t on there, period. No amount of enhancement by professionals have ever found Burke’s voice on that call because he was asleep.
The call was some of the worst acting known to mankind. Patsy may have been a beauty queen but she was no actress. Patsy wrote that ridiculous note (and its first draft), made a fake garrote from one of her broken paintbrushes and a wire, and bound her daughter with rope so loosely that it would have restrained absolutely no one, not even a six year old girl.
Jon-Benet was six years old and still not fully potty-trained. All of her undies were stained with feces. Patsy Ramsey was obsessed with the image of the perfect family with the perfect life, and having a six year old child who was still wetting the bed and still asking adults to wipe her was a crack in that perfect family and perfect life. Jon-Benet soiled herself that night, Patsy had to clean her up, and in a fit of rage she either struck her with an object or pushed her into something hard enough that it fractured her skull and caused her brain to immediately begin swelling. She freaked out and let her die instead of calling 911 because going to prison would destroy her perfect life *and* destroyed her reputation, which she was pathologically obsessed with.
The claim that John and Patsy were eliminated as suspects *is not even remotely true* and the Grand Jury found more than enough evidence to vote to bring murder charges against John and Patsy Ramsey, but the D.A. at the time refused to do so and falsely claimed that they had been eliminated as suspects. The DNA also still has not eliminated Patsy Ramsey as a suspect.
All of the evidence, from the phony and nonsensical ransom note written by Patsy, beyond the shadow of a doubt she absolutely wrote that letter and the letter ‘Q’ is absolute proof of that, the fibers of Patsy’s sweater and the changing stories from John and Patsy throughout the years, to the fake garrote that John and Patsy claimed was a ‘professional garrote’ but was just a wire attached to one of Patsy’s broken paintbrushes, and more than I want to type out here now because this is long enough already, leads to only one suspect. Not Gary Olivia. Not John Ramsey. Not Burke Ramsey.
Only Patsy Ramsey, and no other. Patsy is not the patsy, she’s her daughter’s killer. She didn’t intend to kill her, but she’s still guilty of her daughter’s murder. Patsy is now beyond the law of man, but not beyond the judgment of God.
Yep, pretty much what the lead detective thought also. That note pined her forever...
She did not pee herself that night because her bedsheets from thay night were dry! They did get eliminated as suspects by the chief of police in bolder. It was not wire. It was a strong rope thats used for hot air balloons.
The grand jury was not bringing murder charges. The grand jury agreed on child neglect
I would be numb..nearly speechless as a mother. The behavior of both parents quite odd. Wouldn’t most husbands be trying to calm their wife? Wait by the phone. Not call friends . Definitely an act. Definitely NOT frantic 😊 creepy 😢
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
BTW - there was No stun gun demonstration video in that house. That crap is probably the 2,034th made up Lie about this poor family, & counting. The note said the call would be between 8 & 10 tomorrow deary, you know, Tomorrow.
@sandra177 Probably the Ramseys friends and Pastor were comforting Patsy.
Yes they killed Jon Benet for sure . People on here who defend them are just as bad .
This was more than a ransom note. It was a “Dear John” letter.
Absolutely. The author of the note was cryptically sending a message to John disguised within a fake ransom note.
The note had two purposes. 1. Throw the cops off the Ramsays, and 2. Persuade John to go along with the cover-up.
@@jazamaraz8029totally agree
I always thought that the learning-disabled son clobbered his sister, and the parents covered it up. He had already hit her enough to send her to the hospital on other occasions. His interview has been viewed by the Behavior Panel and they find him suspicious.
To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing.
Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place.
Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either.
N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk.
They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That.
Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night.
Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true.
He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking.
The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show.
One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background.
How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs.
When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call.
Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$.
In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up.
DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003.
People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB.
People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright.
FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.
@@bethryan9077 Holy shit. You got *_super_* triggered & sperged out big time, huh? 🤣
It's kind of funny that you keep saying that "the police don't release all the information, so the public doesn't know the actual truth". Yet, *_you_* run your mouth like you have it *_all_* figured out at the same time, lol.
I don't bother getting into what theory is wrong or right, unless it's some kind of whacked out theory, and you're saying a whole bunch of whacked out stuff.
You bring up *numerology* ffs!
And in such a goofy way too!
"There were 18 chunks of pineapple in that bowl, and "there are more than one 18s in this case. Meyer's lucky number was 18". 😂. Then you imply not only that these "18s" were purposely placed throughout this case as some kind of sign, but that "All items on that table were staged by the perps". These perps also "set everything up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops". You then "clarify" this nonsense by stating "there were two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death", and that both of these fractures "were precise and also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand" (whatever the hell that means).
This whole thing -- according to your ramblings -- a "very, very well planned crime for money & revenge".
Wtf!? 🤣 I'm not a "Ramsey Basher" or a anything like that. I'm not here staning for *_any_* particular narrative either. Regardless, I have to say; everything you just said is whacked tf out, and incoherent. *Pure spergery.*
I could keep going, as I left out so much, but I've had enough fun 🤣.
Take your meds, Beth. (Or lay off?) ...Idk. 🤷♂️
@christubelitvak
Are you ok?
Learning disabled? Hardly. Burke Ramsey earned a degree from Purdue University in 2010 and works as a software engineer.
No one has ever considered Burke Ramsey a suspect. Ever.
Burke never sent JonBenet to the hospital...and did not 'hit her enough on other occasions".
Fortunately, evidence doesn't care what you think.
Good fact finding, but the coroner DID find pineapple in her duodenum, i.e. upper small intestines.
The info in the narrative I just sent includes what was found in JB's intestinal system. That is quoted from the Authentic autopsy report that can be found online, the 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County. Tiny bits of what the ME thought Could be pineapple in the top of the small intestine. Linda Arndt was standing there & said she saw a bowl of pineapple on the table. Science proved JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple & the cops told Patsy that as evidenced in her police interview of '98. The full transcripts of their police interviews for '97, '98 & 2000 can be found at a site - Shakedown. . That bowl, glass & box of tissues was part of the Staging by the perps, as they did with Lots of things all over the house. The fecal matter in the lower bowel also points to the Timing of what she ate, that day & night & in total, proves the Stories made up about Patsy via Steve Thomas & about Burke, via James Kolar & that bogus CBS 'show' are - Not True. @@brettwheeler7753
The interviewer has more excuses than the parents 😂😂😂 dude probably believes in Santa clause too
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise some letters of their handwriting, by Handwriting 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad used on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re now on the job. Besides the DNA from both perps being reanalysed with the Advanced technology, untested evidence items from the BPD's dungeon are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
hes on his side its obvious
I can’t believe the cops can’t solve this crime
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public. Two spots of blood were in the big underpants but Never tested.* Steve Thomas was an ex narcotics officer who had No experience with any murder case before, his partner was an auto theft officer & had No experience with a murder case either. Imagine being a parent when you find out That information. Neither of them were at the house on the 26th & only brought in 3 days later because the investigators who Were present at the house & dealt with the case, the family & friends for 3 days, Refused to target the Ramseys. The 2 in command of the BPD had Zero experience with homicide cases, let alone a ransom demand case, which Was the first crime. Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write.
*The Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood in the big underpants that the Perps had put on the child & the DA finally ordered the blood to be analysed. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being his Saliva, mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public.* The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media to cover the Incompetence of more than one of their officers from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys 'factually innocent' due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. The 93 page document of her findings is online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas & Cina Wong, both Scam artists & both Proven LIARS, in more than one court of Law. Cina Wong was Never a Qualified writing analyst At All as Carnes duly noted & she was outed as being any type of 'expert'. The libel case never went to trial, it was dismissed.
Another long held secret by Wong - she had previously sent Patsy an email & stated that she would testify For her, as to Not writing the note. Patsy ignored her, did not reply.
Later on to find her version of fame, Wong put out a video for TV which included Fake writing samples as IF Patsy's writing & letter ‘samples’ & as IF from the police files with her whiteboard list of Fake letters still being put up as pages of two columns on Many fooltube shows. People are soo gullible & that's what Both of those a##wipes Relied upon to - Make Money. Both of them Failed, as have Many since.
All manner of Con Artists came out of the woodwork trying to find their version of fame & to line their own pockets, off the back of this still high profile crime about a child's sadistic torture & very brutal murder that Nobody Talks About because very few have Bothered to Find Out the TRUE Details of everything that was done to this 6 year old little girl. The bottom feeder story tellers keep coming for endless utube ‘shows’, like the plethora of TV shows before, because soo many people are naïve, soo many are easily brainwashed & then the new generations who know even Less. That CBS show put out in 2016 was totally Bogus & that’s why CBS & the whole gang of Paid Pipers were mightily Sued, but it sure put new Ramsey bashers in such a new Frenzy, people don’t even stop & think, that because the case has Never been to Trial, the Case Evidence has Never Been Released & so, y’all know absolutely Nothing, except fairy tales.
*The Ramseys & lots of suspects, including known pedos, were Already being Cleared by the DNA. The DNA from the unknown male’s saliva was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. That DNA continued to clear suspects, then John Mark Karr who said he did it, in 2006. Note that Year. Further testing in 2007 - Same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. The Ramseys were finally officially & Very publicly Exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA. Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - the cohort, his DNA on the long-johns also, he is hispanic.*
*Jim Clemente & James Kolar spearheaded that CBS farcical production & every single one of those scumbag Con Artists knew all about the Facts of the DNA. They also knew very well exactly Why the Ramseys were Proven Innocent way back when Most had Forgotten, not born then, too young to Know. They made up that whole story & deliberately went for Burke, knowing that the public did Not know much at all, as is true Today.
And that’s just another reason why CBS & every one of those A##holes were Sued for $750 million. CBS settled the case out of court, to save their investors, some money.*
The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues, with many putting out New made up stories for the titillation factor, now for Views, meaning $$.
The next Commander in charge of the BPD by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some Integrity & publicly stated in 2015 - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day, Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.*
The previous BPD members still have a Great Deal to Hide about a whole lot of issues besides their Embarrassing failings & will Always tippy toe around like nervous jackrabbits. The current BPD did issue a very basic statement via the media - 1st May, 2022. Find that online & read it, Slowly.
What are the cops & the other authority figures for Boulder still keeping secret most of all, to save face plus potentially their retirement packages? The fact that their cops Should have Caught both highly sadistic child killers red-handed in the basement early That morning.
Recently a cold case team were put together & are on the job. They have also been given the go-ahead to have more evidence items sent away for the even More advanced DNA analysis & processes. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
N.B. The general public need to Comprehend that - NOBODY would try to disguise their Handwriting, by Writing a 365 words & numbers Ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops, detectives, seasoned homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase - and For The Cops, to have just plopped the sharpie used in the pen cup & put the notepad on the hall table.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. This was a very, Very well Planned crime. The organiser took Patsy’s notepad just prior. Simple as That. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that note. The public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing. You may have seen Fake writing & letter ‘samples’ that are exactly the same as the letters in the note. None of those ‘samples’ were Patsys, None of those pages are from the police files. People who want to get rich from books & TV shows, get Ruthless.
There are Many reasons why kidnapping has Always been a rare crime, One has to Think about why that is. The Ramseys did not live in a single storey ranch. That was a Huge 3 storey mansion plus the basement that had multiple rooms & many cupboards - water, a bathroom, heating, a phone & a window to get out of if needed, underground. And Nothing could be heard upstairs. One could exit the basement door & then a door to exit the house without being seen.
This very heinous plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. Now y’all can start again & Think for a Change.
There was Never going to be Any justice when absolute Imbeciles were put in charge of this child’s murder case & who had No priority except for covering their Incompetent asses & seeing how they could Profit from it all.
The Only achievement of certain officers within the BPD & specifically Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt & then James Kolar - was to show the whole world what deceitful lying serving police officers Looked Like & the abysmal industry They were Responsible For Starting due to the sum total of Their atrocious behaviour.
They did, but the DA refused to charge John and Patsy...
It was a cover up, to people walked through the evidence.
They were indicted on a grand jury keep that in mind
There’s a cover up somewhere
I believe the nightgown had cling to the blanket while in the dryer. No one gave her the nightgown. No one knew it was inside of the blanket
Barbie plays a huge roll in the Pedophile world.
Check out ''Eyes wide shut'...
Rainbows and Barbie are a "Signal"...
Wow I can see that happening
The housekeeper started that False information about the blanket yet hadn't been to the house to clean for Days. Her & her daughter attended the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd. She was supposed to be there to clean on the 24th, but didn't show up. Instead, she rang Patsy & begged her for a loan of $2,000, with a made up Story that had changed, about Why she needed that huge sum. It is a Fact that the perps took Two white blankets from the shelving across from JB's room. That was Not JB's nightgown, it was a dress that was on her life-sized doll that she'd been given 3 years before. The doll was kept in the corner of her room but the perps staged it a window in the playroom upstairs, unclothed.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
@@RogueWave2030 food for thought...who would care enough to make sure that child had her blankie...if you look at the details, it connects the dots.
Thank you for stopping the background music during the crucial part of the program.
It's a well produced program.
Thank you for keeping this case in headlines, as it might help to catch the killers.
Rest in Peace little JonBenet❤
Let's hope and Pray justice is brought to lil' JB
I’m pretty sure one of the people involved is already dead and the other is approaching 80 and will meet their demise soon as well. Those are the only two people that could have actually have been charged with anything.
Their secrets will most likely go to the grave with them.
Unfortunately She will never receive justice.
@@cinemillstv yes, let's us pray also that someone's heart won't be able to carry the heavy burden of knowing the killer's name, and that person will come forward, to help darling JonBenet to receive apologies, although they won't bring her back, but they are much needed.
How can this person go to bed and not be afraid to close his/hers eyes, knowing that God knows who did this abhorrent deed!!
They need to own up before they draw their last breath.
JonBenet, we love you. ♥️😭
@@pesquallyflanger1319 maybe that person will come forward? If there were two or more people, how could they keep quiet all this time?
How could they not have left any vital clues?
Well, that letter is so bizarre, isn't it?
No kidnapper would have written letter several pages long, demanding the exact amount of money available in the account!
I find it unbelievable that this wasn't counted as this extremely important clue and give away the killer's identity.
Wasn't that completely obvious?
Should've been enough.
Maybe there were people from the outside also involved in this?
I'm surprised also the police didn't use unconventional methods like hypnosis to get information from everyone present at the house.
If they were not guilty, they would have eagerly agreed to it.
So, why wasn't it offered in such difficult to solve case?
It almost looks like the police were working towards not discovering the killer/killers.
We have such sophisticated ways of retrieving DNA, even from previously unsuitable sources. Many 40 years old murder cases have been solved using these, but this shocking murder remains unsolved.
All these, so called psychics also have proved useless .
What a shame. 😢
@@pesquallyflanger1319 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS? Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. If you’re actually old enough to be paying tax, well, You’re paying. LMAO.
Here’s the thing for all you immature Ramsey bashers, you can’t possibly Fathom what happened at Any stage because this crime hasn’t been a script for your one hour made up simple plot TV crime shows, that tell ya the ending.
FYI - not all crims run in door, commit their dirty deed & run out again. Now go play.
No way they wouldn’t have turned the house upside down searching for their Daughter including outside. The fact John found Her hours later without searching the basement does not add up. Guilty
Jeff - JR did search the basement initially but not the small wine/storage closet in the basement. But many agree with you that most would have tossed every nook and cranny. This case will perplex you forever. #JusticeforJonBenet
Not all kids wet the bed. This poor, little girl. Pure anxiety and maybe a protest at her treatment by her parents. 27 years later. Putting babies, yes they are babies, through the hoops of beauty pageant routines, dressing up and performing like beautiful, talented women should not be allowed. The summing up is very plausible.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise some letters of their handwriting, by Handwriting 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad used on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - last year a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re now on the job. Besides the DNA from both perps being reanalysed with the Advanced technology, untested evidence items from the BPD's dungeon are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
Wetting the bed could be a sign of sexual abuse
@@Luxie19 You should speak to a doctor.
@@Luxie19 It wasn't very often that this child wet the bed for a Start & she did Not wet the bed that night. There was Zero previous sexual abuse, so get that Straight.
What friggin 'treatment' by her parents lovey? Did you live with this family? I suppose parents aren't allowed to have their daughters train to be a ballerina either yeah? JB was a 6 year old Little Girl, she was Not a baby. Only twisted people would see her beautiful dresses & perfect costumes as being a kid 'performing as a woman'. Go get Help.
I find it rude that the host is so argumentative. The Ramseys did not act normally. They clearly lied many times.
When did they lie? Be specific.
The host is doing his job, asking questions we all would.
Agreed - totally weird and makes the interview annoying, I wish he would just let the guy present his case without playing devils advocate every 2 seconds.
Interviewer can't even get the date right... keeps saying Christmas morning.. it was not,it was Boxing Day morning...do your research...
@@skippy5685 spending Christmas day with friends when you have your own family was pretty uncommon in the burbs in the 90s. In a real 'ransom-note/kidnapping' event, what parent is even remembering their friends (hence, not likely they would be phoned up directly)? Note would be taken literally. The notion of the brother offing her is FAR less likely than an adult. Sibling fights FEEL like torture but don't normally amount to actual torture. I don't claim to know who killed JonBenet but she had a very peculiar family and I think the father's complaining that he was treated like he did it is laughable. His projecting is 'sus' as the kids say. Why LE didn't interrogate him is sus too. We need police who aren't intimidated by wealth.
“I’m not a big DNA guy. I go by feel.” WTF??? Is he a psychic??? Why are this guy’s “feelings”so important? Credentials???
And then later in the interview, he cites the Ramsey’s DNA 🙄
He has no credentials. All he is doing is repeating literally repeating content that has been released by other entities and sources. He's a goober.
Thank you
Obsessed. There is at least one man who knows the truth, and it is lawyer/client privileged communication.
@OneLaw214 Retired detective Steve Thomas on Larry King Live stated he thought Patsy Ramsey was responsible. I haven't read his book; however, I have read Cyril Wecht's book: The Ramsey's hired retired FBI agents and ex Law enforcement personnel in an attempt to remain one step ahead of Law enforcement( many turned them down).
They paid for staged interviews on TV Britain as well. By staged, I mean the questions were discussed in advance.
Bottomline: I do not think they would be honest even with their attorneys. Only God knows what happened to that little girl, and yes, it is obvious it was someone in that family.
Why is the " interviewer " pouring cold water on Chris theories ?
Not everyone is as dumb as dog doo.
Chris Todd is spot on. He’s very respectful when “called out”, but he’s correct.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
*BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS?* Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
Beth Ryan…..Nobody is buying your fantasy….and that is quite the fantasy you got going there. Fact: John Ramsey deliberately contaminated that crime scene. He picked up the dead, stiffened body of his daughter and carried her upstairs and places her on the rug on the floor. Then asks a police officer if she’s dead? What the heck….the child was stiff as a board. He’s not fooling anyone. He deliberately contaminated that crime scene. He’s a very smart man and knows that a crime scene should never be compromised. He served in the Navy. He knows when someone is dead. How could he do that? I could never pick up the dead, stiff body of a family member who was, obviously, murdered. That is sick and twisted at a level most people cannot understand. And, it’s disgusting. Jesus Christ…..who does that when a body is stiff as a board? Come On, Man! That is so wrong in every way. Perhaps, if John had left the crime scene alone the police may have retrieved better evidence, instead of contaminated evidence. You cannot deny that John Ramsey compromised that crime scene when he touched and moved the body.
@@laurenurban3942 Thank you!!
@@laurenurban3942 thank you. That womyn is all over reposting her theory. How about she come on with Christ and educate us all??
Finally someone who clearly sees there was no intruder..
Exactly 💯 Anyone with sense knows that Patsy killed her and John helped cover it up . That's why she was wrapped in a blanket . Victims who are killed by a loved one are often wrapped in a blanket .
Yeah, for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass numpties, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & y’all being soo Thick in the head, to you, they must have been soo Stupid, they didn’t even known that Colorado had the Death Penalty.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public. All TV shows - make Money from the Public. Radio - makes Money from the Public. Writers of books - make Money from the Public. So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic torture & then the very brutal murder. For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since. All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case. But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public. All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars. Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous.
Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered.
And the Public are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV. But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back. He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL. Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas would always talk about the book he was going to write. Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet. Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO. No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered. According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window. According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty. Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!. The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example. CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, it's all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months. The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator. The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name. With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA. More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, being pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs. The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone Was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & besides all manner of investigative procedures being done, more evidence items are being sent away for current forensic & DNA testing. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
@@jeffbryan4019 Attention - mature audience only. The autopsy photos, shoulders up only, can be found online, plus the authentic autopsy report, the 1st of 9 pages has the symbol for Boulder County, top left corner. Also online, the photo of the X-ray of her skull, plus the photo of that complex made bondage device - white nylon cord with the whittled, broken & cut paintbrush, into 3 pieces. That was made in Korea as stamped, that place being significant to Glenn Meyer, the organiser & the author of the note. There was no need to whittle that for the purpose used, except to implicate Burke. Drug dealers widely used modified stun guns in the 90s called air tasers & photos of those are online or go visit your old boy drug dealers who will tell you all about them. Lots of authentic crime scene photos are online. The brick & the rusty log grabber are in many crime scene photos of the cellar. The black steel baseball bat was put on the half-wall as they ran out the butler's kitchen door, that was down the isolated side part of the house, no window above from there to overlook that area nor down the side of the garage. That glass door is shown open in a crime scene photo, when John & the cops saw it shut & locked earlier.
JB was choked more than once with the white nylon cord, tasered more than once with the air taser, tortured on & off with the bondage device for Hours & the end of the paintbrush was used that caused bleeding from her genitals, the tip of that was never found because many deviants keep trophies. The extension cord with the cut off end is shown in crime scene photos, hanging down from the ceiling in the boiler room. This was also used at her genitals & that caused some redness & a bit of swelling inside & done for a purpose. Also inside were a couple of tiny slithers of wood from the paintbrush handle, iridescent paint from the decor on the handle & a bit of green paint used as lubricant. The abrasions at the base of her neck to the right are from the cord being tightened loosened tightened during earlier vile acts. The rust coloured marks at each temple & the two opposite each other on the back of one leg are from the rusty log grabber being used. The 2 burns opposite each other on her lower back along with the burns opposite each on her face & under her ear are from the air taser, the one on her face is bigger because the electrode was placed there more than once. In the enhanced photos, the shapes are very small rectangles. The width apart of both sets of burns, Match. The reason for the use of that close to the brain on the right is about control - inability to walk & poor memory later. JB was strangled to death with the same cord that was left embedded in her neck. Dig marks from her nails in the skin at the front of her neck At the cord because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death. The two severe fractures of her skull were also pre-planned if the cops were called & the gross damage was carried out for a purpose. One was from the top, front to back & open to nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd was on the top & a hole, the skull piece was split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that If either of those fractures had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, it was Not. JB received a gold necklace & gold cross by 2 of her female relatives that Xmas Day morning & she was wearing that as shown in family photos from that morning. She was not wearing that at the White's Xmas dinner party where she played with their kids for half that night & so, she & Burke had been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. to about 9 - 9.30 p.m. JB was only 6 years old, she fell into an exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, she did Not wake up after that. The position of the necklace just at the bottom of the cord at the front of her neck means that it was held in place by a second perp for x seconds while being strangled. That means she was on her back then. That means that she was looking Up at the persons doing that. The gold cross was at the back of her neck & the double knot tied into the cord at the back of her neck was to make sure of the severe indentation & the severe redness, for a reason. JB was given a lot of water on & off in the early hours as a revival method & that's why there was so much pee staining on both the big underpants & the long-johns, near to the waistbands of both & mostly only on the Front of both, due to earlier vile acts. They got the size 12-14 new underpants from the pack of 7, due to the Wednesday stamped on the waistband, for that reason. If those were put on this child at any other time, they would have fell straight to the floor. The paint tray was placed on the large pee staining at the entry of the boiler room in case someone came looking for her early that morning of the 26th. The pee was soaked through to the underlay. The perfect circle of the cat's head was drawn on the carpet to denote the spot, as shown in crime scene photos & as seen in the cops' walk-thru video footage. The sinister smirk drawn & the sly eyes drawn was for a purpose. The pointy ears drawn on the top was to make sure all noticed the drawing as a cat, as in - fat cat. The drawing on the palm of her right hand with a red marker was their version of a smiley face, slanted down cat's eyes & the chin, as if a smile. They had lots of fun like that, all over the house & wrote & drew on many things. JB did not eat any of that pineapple, big chunks in that big heavy bowl in the leftover icing due to decorating the gingerbread houses at the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd. That bowl is in photos of the table with all the other bowls of lollies for decorating. Forensics proved that JB did Not eat any of that pineapple. The Denver DA's assistant Thomas Haney, conducted the interview in 1998 that the Ramseys arranged to do. The full transcript can be found at a site - Shakedown. As well as their police interview of '96 & their further interviews for 2000, that they also arranged because they Still had Nothing to Hide. Haney told Patsy that the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of her small intestine was Different to the pineapple in that bowl. The staging of the pineapple in the bowl was for a Purpose. The staging of the teabag in the glass, same. That was a dry teabag, no residue in the bottom of the glass & Nobody puts boiling water in a glass. They had lots of fun like that all over the house. That flashlight was Not a weapon used & did not belong to the Ramseys but staged on the kitchen bench for a reason. The perps gave JB pineapple fruitcake in the early hours for a reason & a bit at about 5.30 a.m., also for a reason. The colours in the top of her small intestine were yellow to light green/tan. The colours of the mush in her stomach was viscous to green to tan. It takes 2 hours for food to go from the stomach to the top of the small intestine. The fecal matter in the large bowel was a greenish colour. The contents of her intestinal system & the Timing of all that, proves all the fictional stories of her death started by 2 highly deceitful cops & their books to line their own pockets, were nothing but made up Lies. Steve Thomas & James Kolar were put back under their rocks a long time ago. Linda Arndt also tried to get all rich & famous, as that highly embarrassing interview for national TV showed where she thought she was doing a Clarice but came across as Hannibal Lecter. She was Caught out as a liar & later retracted everything she said. When Patsy was dying, she went to her to personally apologise & told Patsy she would do all she could to help find the killer of their child. Her letter admonishing the BPD for their dirty tactics to cover up their incompetence, is online. She also stated that she knew full well that John & Patsy told the truth, always. Burke was Never a suspect. There were Two white blankets in Fact, for 2 reasons - the background for photos & the thwarting of the body temperature. The pink item was a Dress taken off JB’s life-sized doll that she was given for Xmas 3 years before. That was kept in the corner of her room next to the dresser. They staged that a window in the playroom upstairs, naked. It was always going to be 50/50 if the cops were called, they sure didn’t go to so much trouble & take such high risks for nothing. They wanted that instant cash but the taking of photos was their back-up, as Planned. The Ransom Demand was near to John’s bonus for ’95 & the amount was on his pay slips each month of ‘96, kept in his home office. The suitcase had items that belonged to JA, placed inside for a purpose. That being placed under the twice opened unrepaired window was staging, for 2 purposes. The authentic crime scene photo shows the fresh green leaves dumped at that grate with some between the edge & the cement lip & also done, for 2 reasons. *Part 2 to follow.
Glenn Meyer took Patsy's notepad when he conned his way into their house on the night of the 23rd. Simple as That. The black marker belonged to Him. Secretly leasing the Barnhill's basement apartment across the road gave him access to a key & access to letters & cards that Patsy had given the Barnhills in her print writing, years worth. It is easy to copy print writing. He only had to do Some letters like Patsy's into the note with the 5 quotes from 5 movies about violent kidnapping plots. He & his 3 cohorts had lots of fun like that, with the cops.
A long held secret by Wong - she had previously sent Patsy an email & stated that she would testify For her, as to Not writing the note. Patsy ignored her, did not reply. Wong did Not have the credentials to call herself a ‘writing analyst’ & did not have the original note, which is vital for such work. Later to find her version of fame, Wong put out a video for TV which included Fake writing samples as IF Patsy's writing of words & letter ‘samples’ & as IF from the police files with her whiteboard list of Fake letters still being put up as pages on shows, showing two columns of letters & words that are Exactly the same side by side, LOL. Fools. The public have seen Fake writing 'samples'. Cina Wong is still dining out due to those pieces of paper that She wrote on for her failed attempt at fame & fortune & those are still being put up on screens for many fooltube shows & of course, that totally Bogus CBS show used her video too, fake writing on a whiteboard. Just one part of why CBS & each of those con artist 'presenters' plus Kolar, were mightily Sued & CBS had to pay our Mega millions for Their fun & games - the ‘gross misleading of the public’. Steve Thomas had already been mightily sued for his book of BS & lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from conning the public also.
N.B. The general public need to Comprehend that - NOBODY would try to disguise their Handwriting, by Handwriting a 365 words & numbers Ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops, detectives, seasoned homicide investigators & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase - and For The Cops, to have just plopped the marker used in the pen cup & put the notepad on the back hall table. Just Ludicrous.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said Patsy did Not write the note, nor John. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of a few of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. More than one suspect formed letters like in the note, way more than some of Patsys, But That is never mentioned. The print writing was Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that Patsy did Not write that note.
Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that & a pair of black leather pants to the White’s Xmas night dinner party. They were up so early on the 26th because they were to take their plane that their pilot had readied to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at the Minneapolis airport & then all were going to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again. That morning, she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She planned on having a bath when they got to their holiday house. That house had everything they needed. John's gifts for him to unwrap when there were part ripped as the perps wanted to see what was inside & then each one was staged in the cellar, as the crime scene photos show.
In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the End - the operator saying "Patsy, Patsy ..." & y'all would have heard CLICK. Where the Hell is the End of that recording?? CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had just put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK - "Patsy, Patsy"....... CLICK. I for one Have heard the Authentic recording of that call - "hurry hurry hurry". CLICK. "Patsy, Patsy"....... operator disconnects. The perps strangled JB to death with the white nylon Cord on top of the dryer in the basement laundry when Patsy was calling 911. There was a phone in that laundry room. It can be seen in the cops' walk-thru video footage.
Now, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Doh. And, he was interviewed that afternoon by detective Patterson at 2 pm when he was still at the Whites, where he had been since 7.15 a.m., with the White’s kids & their adult relatives. Neither of his parents were Present for that police interview nor did they know that was happening. Patterson recorded that interview. The various made up Stories about ‘red’ fibres from Patsy’s sweater, also Not true.
One needs to think about the Major Players behind this travesty of justice - Steve Thomas put it all on Patsy, Linda Arndt decided Later that she’d blame John & James Kolar chose Burke - neither of these so-called 'police detectives' had Ever worked a murder case before, but they were all about writing a Book when about to be fired & so, were Ready to cash in another way. Each one put their mugs on National TV, trying for fame & fortune, they Failed at that job also. All 3 are such an Embarrassment for law enforcement around the world & then there’s the Fact that they’re all Proven liars.
This most heinous of crimes was very, Very well Planned & 2 of the perps had broken into the house Before & That's why they knew where everything was & exactly all that they were going to do. Main aim foremost - implicate all Ramseys plus the housekeeper, who they knew had a key. Two got in the house through what was 2 doors, that the Ramsey's called the kitchen door, by that grate, when the family left for the White's party at about 4.30 p.m. And both separately, were actually Seen on the property. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again after JB was found & they left, staying with friends in Boulder, with police around them 24/7.
Take note - JB was Never to be taken out of the house, as Planned. The placing of the body in that cellar, that had No Window. That was Very important. The cellar door that 3 cops down the basement at different times early that morning, had Failed to pull open. Nobody ever talks about the Fact that the cops never went through the train room door & so, Never Knew about the opened window at the other end of that co-joined room. Doh. The BPD went to great lengths to make sure Nobody found that out. The BPD had a Lot to hide from the media & so the public & Still.
No guilty person, let alone Two, goes on national TV over & over again to be questioned over & over again.
The DNA from both perps, several places on JB's person, one is hispanic. The saliva from one that was mixed in with one of the 2 spots of JB's blood in the big underpants, has been in CODIS since 2003. The Ramseys were proven Innocent with a mountain of Actual evidence in that house a long time before the official & Very public letter of exoneration in 2008. Further DNA analysis with Advanced forensics in 2016, reiterated that. Ignorant members of the public need to Realise how many Others, including known pedos who were Cleared, due to the DNA only.
In 2023, a cold case team were put together & they have the go-ahead to have the DNA from both perps reanalysed with the advanced technology & can also obtain untested items from the BPD for the same. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. This team were Not put together to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
The false & misleading information on the TV programs from back in the day plus through the years & now all the same repeated on these fooltube videos, shows that the crucifying of these people will never end & the comment sections prove that a whole country Loves to hate on these Victims. Certain TV show makers & now the unscrupulous podcasters make up more atrocious stories about this whole family for that age old reason - Money. One catches more fish with new bait. And so the public domain has one big fat tabloid magazine for their endless Entertainment, to get off on.
The authoritarian entities within the whole of the U.S. of America & all those with a Voice should be loudly condemning all those who enjoy spreading such despicable stories about Satanic worship & the like along with the also unfounded incest stories, all in relation to this Little Girl for No reason At All.
This poor child & Only this child has had such salacious filth said about her.
Shame on you all for your silence.
@@jeffbryan4019 This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise some letters of their handwriting, by Handwriting 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad used on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - last year a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re now on the job. Besides the DNA from both perps being reanalysed with the Advanced technology, untested evidence items from the BPD's dungeon are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
It's so obvious that whatever went down involved one two or all three of the people in that family
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise their Handwriting by Writing 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
*BTW - earlier this year a cold case team were put together & they’re now on the job. Besides the previous said DNA being allocated for the even more Advanced analysis, other evidence items are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.*
Yes..
Because there is no... absolutely no other evidence...
Inside or outside of the residence....
Other than those individuals in the house!
Just unbelievably horrible.
@@kelliannavan Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass numpties, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to seek simpy Praise & to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they also have the go-ahead to resubmit the DNA from perps for the advanced DNA work. They can also get the untested evidence items from the BPD for the same DNA & forensic analysis. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
@@kelliannavan Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who in said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
Wow You’re awesome! Couldn’t agree more. Thank you!!!
Interviewer sounds typically close minded
Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass numpties, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to seek simpy Praise & to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they also have the go-ahead to resubmit the DNA from perps for the advanced DNA work. They can also get the untested evidence items from the BPD for the same DNA & forensic analysis. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to seek simpy Praise & to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they also have the go-ahead to resubmit the DNA from perps for the advanced DNA work. They can also get the untested evidence items from the BPD for the same DNA & forensic analysis. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass numpties, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to seek simpy Praise & to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they also have the go-ahead to resubmit the DNA from both perps for the advanced DNA work. They can also get the untested evidence items from the BPD for the same DNA & forensic analysis. The FBI are involved in this investigation, finally. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
Some basic Facts - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
This is a Staged interview as a Marketing Ploy for this a##wipe who's repeated the same old same old False information & made up more salacious rubbish for likes & your Money. LOL.
I will never, ever forget the film of him greeting people at the church doors during the funeral. Grinning and glad-handing and downright jolly-looking. Never forgot it all these years. He acted like the "happy father of the bride." Scary man.
What a lie. Patsy was in tears. John was desperately trying to hold it together.
That’s just not true. He was a grieving father & husband. A broken man.
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We will probably never know. It is hard to think a mother or father could do this to their child but it happens all the time. I always had a problem with the whole beauty pageants with the child. I would also not throw out the son as a suspect. I truly hope that she did not do this.
It’s very unusual for even the craziest mother to torture her child to death.
@lavadamorrison4569 JonBenet was asphyxiated using a garrote that had been loosened and tightened in a two different locations on her neck. A garrote is a complete unknown for a parent to have ever used on their child. She was tied up, stun gunned at least twice, had her hair in the back of her head twisted up in the ligatures, tried to loosen the cord clawing at it with her own fingers making tiny scratches on her neck, had splinters in her vagina and black duct tape placed over her mouth and finally had an 8 1/2 " fracture bashed into her skull. There was even a wire like a cutter device/piano wire listed in evidence having been taken from near JB's body.
Claiming that a person, Patsy, who had never harmed a fly, did this torture and murder is absurd.
Knowing what I have learned about Michael Helgoth - a sniper, a sadist, a pedophile who had a stay away order served on him after he was caught naked in bed with his girlfriend's little daughter, who had video clips of a five year old girl who had been asphyxiated and stuffed in a duffel bag found in a canyon near Boulder, who liked to roam around at night dressed as a ninja, who had told a mechanic at the end of Thanksgiving that he and a partner had a "killer deal' lined up for around Christmas time and each would make between fifty and sixty thousand dollars, which is about the amount of the Ransom demand makes me realize that these arm chair sleuths are barking up the wrong tree when they go after Patsy. See Real Crime: Who Killed the Pageant Queen?" ua-cam.com/video/wGIcrsgPXX4/v-deo.html You will get real information from real detectives like Ollie Gray.
None of the evidence points to the Ramseys.
@@nbenefiel I agree, but some of it appears to have been deliberately planted to try to incriminate them. For example the Samsonite suitcase with John Andrew's semen stains on a duvet inside, Burke's knife which Linda Pugh admitted only she knew where it had been hidden, and the Barbie nightie which Linda Pugh claimed only Patsy would know was in the dryer on the second floor used only for Jonbenet's needs.
@@nbenefiel None of the evidence points toward an intruder.
Did the parents do polygraph?
I don't have any opinion about what happened but the fact that Jonbenet was found inside the house is significant.
Polygraphs are pseudoscience nonsense.
Yes they did
Two polygraphs were taken. The first one was deemed inconclusive and the second one supposedly "cleared" them. BUT, the first polygraph was taken FOUR YEARS after the crime! BOTH polygraph examiners were HIRED by the Ramses. They refused to have a polygraph administered by the FBI.
They took two. John passed the first one, Patsy’s was inconclusive(polygraph speak for failed). They shopped around found someone else to administer the test and reportedly, both passed the 2nd one.
@@kandykaye9981 Cite a source. There is no way Patsy killed that child in that manner.
John Mark Karr is from the same small town in Alabama as me. He lived next to my great-grandparents. My family told us to stay away from his house when we were kids because he was a weirdo.
He confessed to this crime because he knew he would be extradited to the US and out of the trouble he was in for peddling files over seas.
What always struck me as odd is that the woman John Ramsey cheated with that broke up his first marriage-moved to the exact area in Colorado he moved to . She moved BEFORE he did.
You have to appreciate people who separate emotions to get to the truth. I’d love to see why he eliminated Burke. I think Burke did it, parents covered it up.
I agree! He was mad at her and hit her with that "missing" flashlight!
Burke was not only just 9 years old, he was a skinny little 9 year old. Nothing athletic about him. I think an intruder is unlikely. But Burke... I just don't think he was strong enough to inflict that blow to her head. Further, there's no way in hell the parents would've permitted Burke to be interviewed, alone, by a child psychologist, 2 weeks after the murder, if they thought there was any chance of Burke slipping up. I don't think Burke was involved at all. He was NINE. That psych interview would've AT LEAST drawn out inconsistencies, if not damning evidence against himself or his parents. John and Patsy required copies of transcripts of their first police interviews before agreeing to a second interview. If they're that careful, no way would they trust a 9 year old to get through a direct interview without f*ing up the whole cover story. Burke didn't know anything.
Where he hit is the softest part of the skull and cracks like an egg. @@MeganVictoriaKearns
Some people seem to think so, as well, but many do not. It is all up in the air and likely, always will be. I don't think Burke had anything to do with it, but I feel he knows stuff he is not telling anyone. A nine year old is a pretty smart kid. He knows what is going on.
I think so too. Big lie on the 911 call. That was Burkes voice. Burke had previously hit Jon benet with a golf club. Also he shit in jon benets bed.
The mothers voice calling 911 seems like acting.Really unnatural.
She’s saying it’s a kidnap and that means she’s shouldn’t be sure
if it’s a crime situation.
She breathes hard and terrified voice and said help, hurry like an emergency.
Like if you knows it’s a murder case.
If a child is missing, and searching, you will first tell the police the situation & list up the possibly.And should be behaving more worried rather than terrified
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
*BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS?* Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
One needs to Think about WHY that Evidence of the recording was put on a TV programme. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write. He told John & Patsy that she hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke was in the background. He asked them why they lied in saying he was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. He refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Proven Liar who’s only accolade before being made detective for this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. .
Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK.
Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Doh. And he was interviewed that afternoon by detective Patterson at 2 pm when he was still at the Whites, where he had been since 7.15 a.m., with adult relatives of the Whites & their 2 kids. Neither of his parents were Present, nor did they know that police interview was happening.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who in said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
If I ever did a crime I would want this interviewer to investigate it lol he would be the most easiest to fool without breaking a sweat
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise some letters of their handwriting, by Handwriting 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad used on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - last December a cold case team were put together by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation & they’re now on the job. Besides the DNA from both perps being reanalysed with the Advanced technology, untested evidence items from the BPD's dungeon are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
@GeorgeHardie2016 Absolutely. He’s so naïve.
Chris is a superstar and so honest not a deceitful bone in his body. Thanks for what you do Chris, God bless you!
Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass Idiots, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
Are you kidding this guy is delusional
He started this insane video claiming Patsy killed her daughter in a religious frenzy. I knew then he was a nutcase.
@@Mike232-j2p I THINK SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT BE DELUSIONAL!
@@freddie3206 Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass Idiots, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carnes saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family. If you’re actually a tax payer, well, You’re paying. LMAO.
TOTALLY AGREE with everything you have said. No one has said Patsy murdered her daughter deliberately!! But it happened!! It happens all the time, One thing that strikes me is the "inviting of friends" over to the house. It destroys any evidence, contamination. I saw that in the Alex Murdaugh case - when he murdered his wife and Son. Such a great move for a killer to do... invite everyone to the crime scene!!! It is also possible that Patsy is distraught, she just murdered her daughter unintentionally with her anger. John Ramsay appears to be calm. If you watch True Rocket Science - he states that they had 4 different versions of how JB went to bed. it gets pretty comical, the changes in story. The housekeeper told the grand jury that it was Patsy's writing. The reason the ransom note is ridiculous was two intelligent people (who are highly emotional and very tired) are TRYING to make a note that would be nothing like what they would write.... but do a very bad job. I think John is dictating that note and patsy is writing it, but between both of them it is ridiculous!! It takes 12 words to say "I have your child, I will call". Or "I have your daughter, you better pay up - we will be in touch". "we have your daughter, we want $1 million'!!
Charles Lindbergh did just that: invited everyone .. family members, police officers, his lawyer, paparazzi … into his home and onto his grounds immediately after his baby son was supposedly kidnapped (murdered), and before an investigation had begun. Hmm
IIRC, it is the third longest "ransom note" ever written according to the FBI.
It’s a Very telling indication about the bringing up of kids when soo many people like You, can’t envision Any Other scenario except - the parents did it. Yawn.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
*BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS?* Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. If you’re actually old enough to be paying tax, well, You’re paying. LMAO.
Here’s the thing for all you immature Can’t Stand to be Wwwrong Ramsey bashers, you can’t possibly Fathom what happened at Any stage because this crime hasn’t been a script for your one hour made up simple plot TV crime shows, that tell ya the ending.
FYI - not all crims run in door, commit their dirty deed & run out again. Now go play.
It was the 3rd longest, In Fact. Lovey, don't bother making up Lies about what the FBI said, you make an even bigger fool of yourself. @@brettwheeler7753
@@bethryan9077I don’t pretend to know everything about this case; the primary parties are all dead now anyway. But I read extensively about it long ago and now have included many of your very long missives.
The one thing that the Ramseys-are-innocent camp can’t answer to my satisfaction is the ‘ransom note’.
If I received a ransom note and my child was missing and it said they would be calling at a set time with more info, nothing on earth could keep me from being there for that call. If her body was found, nothing could make me move from that site until I found her killer and they were in jail.
Immediately leaving…how can justice for your child possibly happen if you do that? Would this not be your priority?
I wonder if Pasty found JonBenet eating pineapple and freaked out because her daughter was not supposed to eat between meals. Why is this important? The little girl was a beauty queen and everything she does revolves around looking and acting her best. Catching her little girl in act - a crime of passion - horrible regret . . ."What did I do?" Over 4 hours to clean and stage the scene.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who in said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
@@bethryan9077you’re something else lol
@@shayla143 Yes, I'm someone with Intelligence, lots of Logical thought processes & plenty of Common Sense. And I know pretty much Everything about this case so I am Educating the public. Thank you for the compliment.
@@bethryan9077 You're delusional
@@wildmansamurai3663 Listen up dopey, I am someone who knows pretty much Everything about this case & I tell the True Facts & so, I am Educating the public. It is Not my problem that You & soo many like you, Don't Know ANY. I am Not intimidated by the hate-filled Mob like Yourself, posting your never ending Gobshite about every member of this poor family including this Little Girl. You also live under the Delusion, that you Own the comment sections. You do Not. It isn’t my fault that there are soo many highly ignorant Ramsey Bashers running around with your heads firmly planted up your own a##es & then there’s all the brainwashed zombies who also Can’t Stand to be shown you are Wwwrong.
FYI - there are millions of Normal people in this world who are actually Interested in getting to the Truth about this case, the fact that You get off on deriding Me for No reason at all just points to Your abysmal Character deary.
I am Proud to defend these Proven innocent people & at the same time, I am advocating for JB herself.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”.
People in your country just Love to hate on their betters, that's why the tabloid magazines still proliferate. The never ending Fooltube shows about this poor little girl’s murder - one big fat tabloid magazine. One would think that you people would have wised up by now but No, it's too much fun to run every member of this fine upstanding family right down to the ground hey. Shame on you all.
They refused from day one to talk to police. Instead they immediately hired a lawyer.
If your child was murdered by someone and it’s not you who did it, you fully cooperate 100%
The Ramseys were up so early that morning because they were to head to their holiday house in Charlevoix on their private plane. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that desperate but very frustrating 911 call, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies - for Help, who lived Close By. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. BTW - the Cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come who also arrived early that morning. The Ramseys did Nothing to themselves by way of ‘how they acted’ at all & the 8 cops & detectives Present that day, had No problems believing they were Genuine. Officer Rick French was the first person & officer to arrive, within 6 minutes of the Start of the 911 call. He saw that Patsy was near hysterical & at point of collapse & he had her & John sit in the sunroom. He did a cursory look around then officer Veitch arrived.. Of the 8 cops & detectives who arrived at various times that morning, nobody was searching for JB, it was a Ransom note. Except for Arndt, all were gone by about 10.30 a.m.
Linda Arndt didn't arrive til 8.10 a.m. & With detective Patterson. At different times early that morning, 3 cops were tasked with checking entry & exit points only, all 3 Failed at that job. 2 of those 3 officers plus one taking photos went down the basement at different times, all 3 failed to flip the latch down on the top of the cellar door, pull open the door & go in. All 3 saw gear in front of the train room door & by-passed that door, as did Fleet White. The broken window is Not where the perps entered the house, but the BPD went to great lengths to make sure that the public Still don’t know that Their cops didn’t even know about that window til that Evening, when they went back. That’s why the ‘famous’ photo of the open window, shows that it was taken in the Night.
Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a Frenzy because the child was found murdered in the home after 1 pm., when many cops had been there for Many hours. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. What better way to shut the Ramseys up about the cops’ Failings that morning than to throw mud at the Ramseys & they used the Media to do that. Within one week, the Ramseys were ducking for cover & the cops were cleaning their nails.
Many weeks later, Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like that & quit. Her next job was as a tree lopper.
*It was the lousy Cops who should have found JB & early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon & he did Not go ‘straight to the cellar’.
Arndt tried to sue the BPD for Money but the lost the case. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too.. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain due to the court case & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview on national TV. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to do all she could to help find the killer.
Due to Arndt’s stories in that hilarious interview - many of the public believe that Arndt was the first officer at the scene & many believe she was the Only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, but her & the BPD are more than happy for the public to believe That BS as Well. It was Her who carried the body to the living room rug near the Xmas tree.
Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That either - for her breakout debut with a numbskull reporter whose only job was to try & keep a straight face.
The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke separately to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. They did Everything the cops asked them to do. John asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas was an ex-narcotics officer & had No experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. Thomas constantly talked about the Book he was going to write & if anyone went against His theory, they were ridiculed & ostracized. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The Present investigators had No concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house. False & misleading information was being leaked to the media. The cops were made to publicly Apologise later for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. The Ramseys organised to do the Formal interview for when they returned from Atlanta burying their daughter, the cops cancelled that interview as they did more than once. It didn’t go ahead til April, big Deal. Loads of people don’t do formal interviews At All & lots don’t speak to the cops Ever. The Ramseys still had Nothing to Hide & they went on national TV soo many times, nobody can count the number up right. Being interviewed by all & sundry & being asked about the same Hurtful aspects over & over again whilst being Accused & being open to the scrutiny of all the loons to squawk about every blink of an eye, while the ever accusing keystone cops were doing Jackshit trying to find the sadistic murderer of their child. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. The Ramseys went broke trying to find who murdered their child & hoped to Save another. When the money ran out, many Seasoned investigators continued the search Unpaid. Not one of them have written a Book. *What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue to this day.* The current info about the DNA has been national news for over 2 years, only the highly ignorant Ramsey bashers ignore that Scientific evidence. CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case, asking for the DNA evidence items.
Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that & a pair of black pants to the White’s Xmas night dinner. They were up so early on the 26th because they were to take their plane to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at the Minneapolis airport & then all were going to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again. That morning, she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She planned on having a bath when they got to their holiday house, after the long flight. That house had everything they needed.
Patsy found the note & only read to about - ‘we have your daughter’ & raced back upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he told her to call the police. She was using the wall phone in the alcove near the kitchen, John was on the floor reading the note over & over Then. The public need to find out about the layout of that Huge 4 level mansion. Patsy had been racing around a long distance plus the spiral staircase 2 times - in shock & great fear, she was so stressed that she couldn’t even get her words out at the Very Beginning of that Desperate 911 call & what came out was Babble.
In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Really had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played TIl the End & all would have heard “Patsy, Patsy” ..... CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. There was a cupboard under that wall phone, if Patsy had forgot to hang up, all would have heard “hurry hurry hurry”, Clunk - “Patsy Patsy” ..... CLICK.
The various made up Stories about ‘red’ fibres from Patsy’s sweater, also Not true.
One needs to think about the Major Players behind this made up Saga of who did what - Steve Thomas put it all on Patsy, Linda Arndt decided Later that she’d blame John & James Kolar chose Burke - neither of these so-called 'police' had Ever worked a murder case before or after but, they were all about writing a Book. Each one put their mugs on National TV, trying for fame & fortune, they Failed at that job also. All 3 are such an Embarrassment for law enforcement around the world & then there’s the Fact that they’re all Proven LIARS.
To have the forensic guy say the poor little girl was found with repeated vaginal inflamation, tells me that the poor little girl was repeatedly sexual insulted.That someone very very close did it.
None of that garbage was True, NONE. Steve Thomas made up that salacious crap for one reason only, Book Sales & his despicable BS grew legs because soo many people love to get off on that shit about this child & only This child, don't they deary. .
This murder had the country shook
back in the day.Excellent interview and thanks
for making these cold cases make sense.
Thank you AK Taproom we will be bringing you more True Crime Episodes.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
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Oh please bring back the OJ Fiction Murder Mystery. It was much more popular than this one.
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This makes far more sense than anything that has been said about this case for all of these years.
Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies & nastyass Idiots, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
@@bethryan9077 give it up beth, nobody cares
@@bethryan9077 please? can you stop yourself ...beth? Ffs !!
@@KingUsyk It must be soo terrible for people like You, to Read that some people Know the Truth about this crime And, the Truth about the Case & the Truth about what Actually happened to JB & post those True Facts. As Opposed to all the hate-filled & idiotic garbage that 1000's of people post on all sites. The Same menagerie of people who are Misinformed, Naive, Ignorant, Rude, Aggressive, Abusive, Despicable & downright Stupid. These Same people call names At the Ramseys & accuse them of disgraceful & vile acts against Both Kids, Including this sadistic Murder of their 6 year old Child. Then those who are even Worse & do Same to the 9 year old Kid because of a TV show. You all post your Garbage about this fine upstanding family who were All Proven Innocent a Long time ago. FYI - All have the Right to Defend Them.
BTW - who would Write a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The Cops? Only morons believe Patsy Did That! Not everyone is guilty of being an absolute imbecile deary.
There are people with Intelligence, common sense & logical thought processes who can envision scenarios of what may have happened. Then there’s Loads of you who Clearly aren’t very bright & repeat all the Garbage that started from tabloid magazines & that shite grew legs into books of BS, TV shows & so onto YT videos. Y’all then post about your Baseless ‘observations’ due to your Ignorance, Hateful hearts & then there's all the Envy going on. The Ramseys were Proven Innocent, due to something called Evidence & by a bunch of Actual experts, who included Forensic Scientists. Just because You Don't Know about that evidence, Does Not Mean that it doesn't exist. The Exoneration was just from evidence that was known about way back at that time. FYI - the investigation Continued. All you brainwashed zombies are running around trying to feel all important, yet don't even have 3 brain cells left to realise that - this case hasn't been to trial, so the Actual Evidence about the case was Not released to the media & So, not on your TV. Loads of unscrupulous people have made loads of Dollars from people like Yourself. Doh.
Like soo many others, You watch TV, pick out what you Choose to believe, then post that on these sites As If fact. At The Same Time, you all Make Up a whole lot of Other Shite & post that As If factual too. Yawn. I do something called Research lovey, isn’t that friggin shocking. LOL. You & your like watch TV & read books of BS, copy other highly Ignorant victim basher’s BS, then repeat it all like well trained monkeys.
Go Learn what DNA is for a Start. The DNA that was Collected, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one of the perps has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that Cleared loads of suspects including known perps & then in 2006, John Mark Karr who said he did it. The DNA that Continued to clear suspects & up til this day.
BTW deary, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that all you disgusting Victim Bashers do not Care.
No mater how hard it is to believe a mother could/would kill her own child, remember it happens every day!!!
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
The cop not believing that a mother would not kill her child is not thinking clearly. He is wrong. Many times it happens. He is trying to fit the evidence to fit his opinion.
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
Deary, the Ramseys were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago, these full of the same old BS shows keep coming for the Entertainment of all you highly Ignorant people, to get off on.
The interviewer is making way to many excuses for the parents !!!!
OMG I’m not even done watching this yet and this is by far the best interview/assessment that I’ve seen. The 2 part special that was aired for the 20th anniversary where investigators felt that most likely Burke had been involved (maybe started this disaster) OR Patsy, who was an exhausted mother, who’d just finally snapped, was really well done also.
I’ve always said when you have a woman like Patsy who’s been dealing with Ovarian cancer and all that comes with that, and her extremely busy, high energy, life style, that is a lot about maintaining a certain “image” (just saying) and who is dealing with over tired hyperactive kids on Xmas day and a father who puts his chronically incontinent daughter (bed wetter) to bed without properly preparing her (toileting, undressing her into her pjs) and then not too long after, John is in bed out cold, well guess what?, Burke who’s been eating all day wants food, Jon Benet is up and soaking wet, or however you might imagine it, SOMETHING, went HORRIBLY wrong in that house on the eve of Dec. 25th or early a.m of Dec. 26th.
I didn’t know that Lou Smit only spent 72 hours on this case and I knew all along his theory was bias. How bout the debris and the cobwebs the went undisturbed as an intruder went in and out of that window?
Anyway, I could write my own book on this case. It may very well go down in history as the perfect murder. So infuriating.
Great job by Chris Todd though. I’m impressed.
*Revision: I’m not sure I agree 100% with his end theory. I’ve always believed that this started in the kitchen. I always thought the photographs showed pineapple with tea in a glass. Not milk? Wasn’t there a bit of milk or cream poured over the pineapple. It was Burkes favourite snack. This case has so many unanswered questions but I still don’t believe the intruder theory and never have. Whatever happened was covered up. I think something happened out of anger first (the blow to the head) and then there was panic and more rage and then it was finished off and staged and cleaned up all in state of absolutely psychosis. It DOES happen. And Burke may have given that first blow to her head. Maybe.
Paging Dr. Beth Ryan lol
@@cinemillstvI don’t know who that is? Help me out here please. I know you find it hard to believe that a mother could do this to the daughter she loves so much but stranger things have happened and the stats Chris gave back it all up.
Its a little bit of joke a user named Beth Ryan usually comes in when anyone speaks highly of Chris Todd's theory and provides a lengthy contrarian position. Check some of the comments and you'll see why you may have summoned Beth Ryan. Beth has done a tremendous amount of research, and we invited her on the show to debate Chris Todd. Unfortunately she lives out of country.
Tricia Griffith at websleuths has some excellent videos including interviews with handwriting expert Cina Wong, Police Chief James Koehler, and Detective Steve Thomas. She had a regular guest that goes by "Cynic" who knows his stuff!
Yep she knows more than all the experts does our Beth makes you wonder
The narrator makes the case in defense of the parents, "Why would the parents murder their own child?" Well over the past 2 weeks, I can think of at least 4 to 5 cases of a parent murdering their own child, the last one a few days ago where some woman from India threw her 6 year old deaf and mute son into a canal filled with crocidiles! Another of a man who murdered his 2 or 3 children in their family car, shooting himself afterwards, and another of a Texas woman texting her husband, "Say Goodbye to your Son" afterwards killing him and herself...
Chris Todd is awesome and I hope he does write that book . In my own reseach I also believe her parents killed her . I think her mother was off her rocket , I feel sorry that jonbenet went through this !!! It’s heart wrenching .
Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family. If you’re actually a tax payer, well, You’re paying. LMAO.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
@@bethryan9077 Garbage
Pasty was not off her rocket or rocker either. I am so tired of people just repeating lies and making up nonsense.
@@nbenefiel go study psychology yes she was!!!
This story gets crazier and crazier as it goes on.Mothers don't club children and kill them because they wet or messed in their pants!
Yes they do! There are plenty of parents who fatally "discipline" their kids. Do your research 😐
@@tracyknight5186 People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
Mothers who do this get caught. 100% intruder@@tracyknight5186
Look man it's interesting what he has to say, I've read alot about this strange case but if he's claiming a demon possessed the mom causing her to do this then maybe he shouldn't be so quick to dismiss other people's opinions/theories as "conspiracy B.S." You know what I mean
I don't believe PR did it
I think he meant a “metaphorical demon” not a literal one.
Metaphorically. Patsy could have been in a religious psychosis.
@@OUTTA-TYME88 Yeah in the blighted eyes of all you victim annihilators, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves & also according to your ever so proud Cult of Ramsey Bashers, apparently being absolute Imbeciles, they must have had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty.
FYI - there are a gross number of adults & kids who are murdered in the home when the occupants are there sleeping. Most of those homes are Not a newly renovated 4 level huge mansion from the 1920s with the former coal cellar still in situ underground & so, No Window. There are a gross number of those murderers who have Never been Caught.
Only JonBenet’s family are treated so Despicably, by a monstrous number of people in the public domain - being mostly U.S. citizens, Of Course. None of you have Read ANY Case Evidence, you’ve just watched TV & picked out the bits that Suit your personality type & then bang on with a load of garbage about a crime that you know Nothing about & do your best to constantly denigrate these very kind people who you Never KNEW.
Nobody can state One case with the same circumstances of a murdered child, including where the Parents are such as These parents & wealthy to boot as well. I’ll wait for you to Name that household.
Whilst you’re thinking about that, Include the scenario where the parents & kid brother have been drawn & quartered by all you now Criminal Geniuses & Incessantly for over 26 Years, without even any Respect for the murdered Child.
THIS family were Proven Innocent a long, Long time ago - these Victims who had to suffer in silence & even More So due to certain members of the Boulder PD who got great Enjoyment from deliberately leaking false & misleading information to the media, for no other reason than to save their own Incompetent asses.
You should all be Ashamed of yourselves, the rest of the world Sure IS.
Only absolute Morons would believe that someone would Handwrite a particularly violent ransom note yet first stop to think up 5 quotes from 5 violent movies about kidnapping scenarios & go on to do all that using their Own notepad paper plus their Own marker & Then leave both of those items near their phone For The COPS!.
Steve Thomas started all this Abysmal fiasco against this whole family by blaming JB’s mother. He was in Fact nothing but a Useless adversary with Plans to cash in from the very Beginning. He tried Very hard to pave his way in gold, he Failed at that also. Many followed his lead by playing the Paid Piper game & so, the same shit from soo many ugly mouth victim bashers is Still hitting the fan on fooltube.
If the public knew Everything that these vilest of highly sadistic sociopaths Really did to this little girl & all that they did in that house, when her family were Asleep, You the public would - Freak the hell out.
Law Enforcement proved them Innocent a Long time ago & then Finally, the Official & very public announcement in 2008, they were Exonerated. It’s more than Way over time to leave them in Peace.
People say ‘these types of cases’ & quote various numbers about ‘statistics showing’ - in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
It would be Very interesting to conduct a survey in the U.S., to find out the percentage of the Ramsey bashers who Do NOT Have - a Four storey 7,000 square foot Mansion - nor 2 private planes, a designer built yacht, a centrefold holiday house & money to Burn. Envy is a Sin you know.
The Ramseys happened to be wealthy at the time - this is what their money got them - never to see the inside of their wonderful home ever again, total destruction of their day to day lives & on medication daily. Whilst the keystone Cops were - deliberately putting out False & Misleading information about them to the media, the Cops constantly accusing them of their child’s murder & the Cops lining up a grand jury to see if they could get them Both indicted for the torture & murder of their Own Child yet the Cops had Zero evidence against them. But people say, that their money Bought the cops. Doh.
They went Broke trying to find the killer of their Precious child.
Their stories Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed. Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his first ever homicide case so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. *At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.*
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters are Patsy’s letter ‘samples’ that she did for the cops. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All Ramseys were Proven Innocent a Long time ago with a mountain of Actual evidence & by a whole bunch of Real experts under the umbrella of Law Enforcement who included expert Seasoned investigators who Had to be brought into this case, various expert Crime Scene techs & several expert DNA & several forensic Scientists from different high tech labs.
Like soo many other highly ignorant Ramsey bashers, you Really need to stick to your one hour made up TV crime shows, that tell ya the ending, True crime is obviously Way over your head.
If a person is not redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ, they are leaving themselves open to possession and if she was in the Mormon church, she was definitely not saved... Normal people just don't kill their child unless something serious is going on with them... Like a demonic influence..
The son did the killing. The parents covered it up.
I was a young woman when the case broke. If I recall correctly, suspicion was heavy on the mother from the beginning. The general public suspected Patsy because of profiling reports and because Patsy R. had such an odd personality/demeanor. Many people disagreed with the pageant lifestyle even back then and felt PR objectified her own daughter and used her as a tool to bolster their family’s image. I’m just not sure. In the beginning I suspected PR, but she seemed genuinely heartbroken.
I don't recall the name of the book I read about this case, but one of the crazy things I was struck by was how many pedos or previously convicted criminals were in the area at the time. I know Boulder is a big city, but dang, you just don't realize how many twisted people are around you sometimes. I know there's still a lot of unsolved crime, but I'm thankful that we have better technology now that helps solve many of these cases. Doorbell cameras, smart phones and cars, bodycams on LEOs and better dna testing make it a little more difficult for people to get away with murder.
Debbie that tripped us out too. So many pedos all around us it's a sickness that is much more widespread than most of us thought. Very sad. Your right the good news is that technology is catching the bad guys.
Yeah Colorado is crazy. Especially Littleton. The two dummies that went into Columbine. That was 100% real
and premeditated.
Innocent kids died and it really happened.
Boulder is actually a small town. I lived there when this happened. There was always a lot of strange characters in Boulder. A lot of sex offenders and it’s a college town.
@@cinemillstv You are Still deleting my replies & as stated just this week, I will be contacting UA-cam admin & considering you are leaving certain ones from those who are deriding me, mocking me, etc etc, it is More than clear what is going on. You are also deleting the ones where I reply to a poster/s who have Praised up CT to the nth degree. The MO is More than obvious. Of course I have other Evidence of what you are Deliberately doing to the Public who have the Right to comment on all these sites which are Public Forums & the Right of Reply. You sent me a long-winded message only a couple of days ago, giving me more gobbledygook & more ferbies about 'quarantine' which I already Addressed just previously. You have now deleted all that. Why are you so scared of what I & others who put out Facts have to say? It is very clear that this channel is in the hands of Chris Todd & associates, in other words, nefarious characters.
I couldn't care less actually deary, but that is Not the Point, whether this affects Me or not, is Not the Issue. Again, I will be seeking Legal Advice, you can have your channel Deleted. You are in Breach of UA-cam's rules & regulations & really, your behaviour in total is a Low Act.
Again, how many Other members of the public are you doing this too?
BTW - I have a Copy.
It was her mother dude. There is no pedo in this case.
Remember when Dr Phil was interviewing Burke and he asked Burke if there was something going on do you think you would have heard it and Burke said yeah, then gets a hard lip compression? Well that means he did hear something. He just slipped and didn't want to be questioned about it
LMAO. Doh.
You don't even know that TV producers Edit the content, meaning, they later flip back & forth between the convo & to the faces, to suit their Agenda. No doubt you haven't ever noticed the Different attire Burke was wearing, Two different days of filming.
😢a mother wouldn't do that. It happens every day. Casey Anthony. Susan Smith. Diane downed etc etc
People say ‘these types of cases’, in relation to children found deceased - there has Never been a case like this one. Putting the note aside - the crime was ultimately murder & the body was found in the home. Predominantly, the statistics about kids who are found murdered are in relation to - junkies, alcoholics, meth heads, mental health illnesses, divorce, paedophiles, the underprivileged, serial killers, step-fathers & then mothers who got a new boyfriend who didn’t want kids around.
JON BENNET IS SAFE WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. PERPERTRATERS WILL STAND IN JUDGEMENT ONE DAY BEFORE THE LUVING GOD.
It took me years to figure out the ransom note was a fake. If you knew John was rich, 118k is pocket change. At least make it 1-3 million. Plus logically, the note was way too long. Just a couple of sentences would suffice.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of her family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
*There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages full of numpty Puppets.*
The Ramseys were officially Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - autopsy photos, X-ray photo of the skull, Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, forensic items listed, Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other of their recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, the DNA evidence of both unknown male perps detailing what type & Where on her person, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys. This is the Actual evidence & all can source a great deal of that online. Gossip & fairy tales are Not evidence of murder. Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
You people need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you media consumptive Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are Not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later by a reporter. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept. The Saliva from one perp has been in CODIS since 2003. The DNA that cleared Loads of suspects including known pedos & then John Mark Karr in 2006 who said he did it, Cleared the Ramseys. Get that Straight. Then further testing over the years Backed That Up.
*BTW - who would try to disguise their Handwriting by Writing 365 words & numbers as a ransom note & use their Own notepad to do that & then tell the cops & Homicide detectives & everyone else that they found the 3 pages spread out on one of the rungs of the back staircase & then, For The Cops, plop the marker used in the pen cup & the notepad on the hall table, both near the phone? Only absolute morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. So many within the Boulder PD had No business wearing a badge & in total, were more interested in saving their own useless asses than finding 2 or 3 brain cells to use. This case most Certainly shows that there are multi thousands of people amongst us who should Not be allowed to Vote.*
Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - earlier this year a cold case team were put together & they’re now on the job. Besides the previous said DNA being allocated for the even more Advanced analysis, other evidence items are being sent for the same. The FBI are involved in the investigation, finally. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
@@bethryan9077 What you just wrote took ,time & thought & came to the point. The ransom note: WAS LONGER.
Very well written. You're sharp!@@bethryan9077
@@bethryan9077 I do have one question. The staircase that leads to the kitchen, how and why would the killer know that is the way that PR would go down in the morning, rather than taking the main staircase?
@@MsStonge Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had Already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
There's no way a stranger broke into that house, snatched the girl and took her downstairs without anyone hearing. And then took the time bind her up that meticulously and then walked back upstairs , sat down in the dining room and spent another half hour writing a ransom note for someone they weren't actually kidnapping. 100% the note is Patsy's work. And that's why she was still wearing her party outfit from night before when the cops showed up in the morning.
This is part of the problem for all those like Yourself - you don't know Anything about the crime, the case Or about what was Actually perpetrated upon this poor child. Nor do you Care to Find Out, what Really happened to JonBenet Ramsey because y’all too busy bangin on with a load of Garbage about every member of JB’s family instead & all because you watch TV shows & pick out whatever suits your hateful agenda & repeat that as if all true.
There most certainly are plenty of posters who have Intelligence, plain old Common Sense & Logical thought processes, who can work out sensible scenarios of what may have happened But, few dare to venture onto these hate-filled pages.
The Ramseys were officially & publicly Exonerated with an Abundance of Actual evidence. Just because You Don’t Know about that evidence, does Not Mean that it doesn’t exist. All those under the umbrella of Law Enforcement - Did deal with Case Evidence, law enforcement including - expert Seasoned investigators, expert DNA & forensic Scientists & expert Crime Scene techs. That Case Evidence included - the autopsy photos, the X-ray photo of the skull, the Authentic autopsy report, hundreds of crime scene photos, cops’ walk-thru videos, police reports, affidavits, depositions, evidence lists, witness statements, videos & Full transcripts of John & Patsy’s police interviews of ’97, ’98 & 2000 - the last 2 being hours long meetings that the Ramseys requested, other recorded interviews, over 200 evidence items that Showed someone Was in that house, forensic items, the full layout of the Whole 7,000 sq ft mansion - being all 4 storeys & also, what was Out of Place & what was Missing from their home. All of the above is documented as Evidence & a great deal of that is online for all to source.
Until this case is brought to trial for criminal proceedings, the general public will Never get to know the True Facts about this case, nor the ins & outs or the bits & pieces that, Make Up the Puzzle. Unless you start some Actual Research online - but that takes a whole lot of hard slog & one needs some experience just to tell the difference between a fake document & an Authentic one. Reddit for example & the proliferation of videos on YT are Still full of False & Misleading information whether old TV programmes or new YT 'shows' & both put Fake pages on the screen As If from police files, including Fake writing ‘samples’ & Fake individual ‘letter’ samples as if Patsy did that too. Producers through the years have always edited their programmes to suit Their agendas & flash photos & pages on the screen in the middle of whatever dialogue, whether these were the Ramseys TV interviews or parts of their police interviews, info is out of sequence & the Ramseys try to answer reporters questions but are interrupted constantly & so the dialogue of what they’re trying to say is all over the place & back again & so, the public can’t keep up because they have No Idea what happened at Any stage. When one doesn’t know the Truth about all the different aspects related to this case, one can’t Comprehend what is being said. One of them will speak of xyz from that morning, but viewers have watched a TV programme of false information & so they say the Ramseys are lying. They may talk about something that happened after 1 p.m. but the viewer thinks they are referring to something from the morning & say they are lying. All of the same old same old False information that’s been going around for 26 years & counting & the Chinese whispers from posters on YT now are also never ending & Ramsey bashers jump on that shit too & suddenly it’s a true fact & the Ramseys are liars.
The Ramseys ‘stories’ Didn't change At All, the cops couldn't write correct convos in their reports & in some of the reports they contradict each other. A few of them wrote their reports the next day & 3 days later & their perceptions were tainted by then. One was written on the 8th January. Even the top that JB was found in was reported as the Wrong colour. Reports were amended & wording changed.
Steve Thomas was not even present that day or in town at all til 3 days later but according to him, he knew it all. Steve Thomas, who only cared about how his hair looked for the cameras & whose claim to fame before this, was busting a ring of pushbike thieves. He had No Clue how to work his First Ever homicide case & Failed miserably so he illegally took evidence material from the BPD & ran off to write that childish book of BS for his own Financial Gain. It's mainly due to Him that so much false information is still going around because he had some sort of psychopathy in relation to Patsy in particular. He was sued for his book of lies & lost every cent of his hundreds of thousands of dollars that he made from the Public, but many don't know that & the book is online, though the despicable acts that he accused Patsy of doing to her child are edited out so people today don't even know what a sick sociopath he Always was. He was & still is, a highly deceitful con man who had delusions of grandeur. Linda Arndt was Caught out as a liar also, for Her ludicrous TV interview & she later Retracted everything she said. James Kolar jumped on the bandwagon with His book of BS blaming Burke, no publisher would touch it & he had to pay out of his own pocket to get that garbage on the shelf. People tend to Trust the police, how Dare they do what they did to this family & particularly, when the case was Unsolved.
People need to understand that many of the old videos of their TV interviews were Edited at the time, for whatever agenda the producer of the TV channels had going on, Then the utube uploaders have Their own agendas & the TV interviews are edited Again to suit Them. At the same time, when you don't know the True facts about the case, what the Ramseys are referring to is just not comprehended by the misinformed public anyway.
A page with typed words is put on screen & people believe that’s a document from the cops’ files. Columns of written letters is on a page on screen as from the note & right next to that is a column of letters Exactly the same & people believe those letters were done by Patsy’s. The Truth of the matter is that the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s writing but That factor alone has made Many charlatans a great deal of Money.
All you Victim bashers need to wake up to yourselves. Obviously too many in the public domain believe all that they read in trashy magazines as well & whatever is on the back of your cereal boxes. As long as it’s Against this fine upstanding family, Anything goes & according to all the Ramsey bashers it all must be true because y’all saw it on a TV screen. Many fooltube channels put up Fake photos of inside & outside of the Ramsey’s house, that are not photos of Their house. A photo of snow all around & at that grate, that was taken Weeks later. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The cops were made to publicly Apologise for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. Frost & sleet at the sides & back that melted when the sun came up as the cops’ photos, taken early that morning, clearly Show. There’s a drawing on some podcasts of JB as she was when Arndt placed her on the living room rug, everything depicted is Not true, not even how her hair was when found.
In 1996 DNA was about blood & seminal fluid. Skin cells was a new concept
*BTW - who would WRITE a ransom note & on their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS?* Only morons would believe Patsy did That!. Why would she say the note was found on the Back Staircase for Heaven’s Sake? One would have said it was found on the child’s Pillow! And woops the body is still in the house. Why write a 3 Page ridiculous note anyway? One would stage a break in & call the cops. SIMPLE. I pity all those who can’t even figure out the Basics of this heinous crime, which was In Fact very, Very well Planned. Way too many so-called ‘experts’ & so-called ‘authors’ jumped on the bandwagon to find their version of fame & to make Money from this high profile crime & they Keep At It because of - all those who are naïve, ignorant, highly gullible, hateful, brainwashed & cruel. Then there’s all those who are just plain Stupid. The paedo & incest fantasists have carte blanche to denigrate this little girl in any way Imaginable & Their stories about her are despicable to the nth degree with Nobody rebuking them. All in all Those aspects alone are a National Disgrace.
There’s such an abundance of abysmal Ramsey bashers, the never ending ‘shows’ full of the same old BS will, Never End. One would say - feeding the beast.
BTW - recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government is Not paying out huge $$ for them to go after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys. If you’re actually old enough to be paying tax, well, You’re paying. LMAO.
Here’s the thing for all you immature Can’t Stand to be Wwwrong Ramsey bashers, you can’t possibly Fathom what happened at Any stage because this crime hasn’t been a script for your one hour made up simple plot TV crime shows, that tell ya the ending.
FYI - not all crims run in door, commit their dirty deed & run out again. Now go play.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
JB had murky mucus from her nose across her face due to being strangled to death, blood at her genital area was also on her thighs & was wiped off with a blue cloth with those fibres present at autopsy, the ends of that white nylon Cord were frayed, both the underpants & long-johns were soaked with urine mostly on the front up to the waistbands of both of those garments plus through to a square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entrance, there were rust coloured marks at each temple & on the back of one leg from the rusty log grabber, a few slithers from that cut, broken & whittled wooden paintbrush handle were inside the vaginal cavity as was iridescent paint from same, her tears were uncountable, then this poor little girl was placed in that dusty cellar that had blotches of white mould on the floor - but you bright sparks believe that Patsy wore the same clothes all night long & let the cops into her house plus others, still wearing those clothes. And you're allowed to vote. Jeez.
The Boulder PD hired 2 private handwriting analysts & they also took the note to the Secret Service for 2 of Their experts, all 4 said NO Ramsey wrote the note. The Ramsey’s attorneys also hired 2 of the best in the country & both said the same. A few of the letters had the formation Similar to the formation of Some of Patsy’s letters because that’s how it was SET UP To BE. The letter formations were Not the only aspect that told the Real experts that NO Ramsey was involved in the writing of that Ridiculous note. And, the public have Never SEEN Patsy’s actual writing.
From the 1st week of 1997 til 2007, DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs. Within the 1st Two Weeks, the results of DNA testing were back - from under both of JB’s pinkie fingernails - Unknown male DNA, mixed with JonBenet’s DNA. Steve Thomas & his cronies kept this vital result from the DA for 7 months & so of course, the public too. The same Steve Thomas who had Never worked a murder case before but later went on to Pretend that he was lead detective & he still does. Two spots of blood were in the underpants but that was Never tested. Steve Thomas got around the office constantly talking about the book he was going to write. It wasn’t until the grand jury were to convene when the Ramsey’s attorneys found out about the 2 spots of blood & the DA finally ordered that to be tested. The blood was JBs plus Unknown male DNA being saliva mixed in one spot of the blood. This DNA from an unknown male wasn’t developed enough for CODIS at that stage. Desperate Thomas worked Very hard to keep the Fact that there was now Two lots of Unknown male DNA evidence, from the media & so from the public domain.
The BPD were ‘leaking’ false & misleading information to the media from the very beginning & the frenzy continued. Eventually the BPD were made to Publicly apologise for doing this to the family but This Fact has been forgotten/not known about by the general public. The BPD’s cops Should have found JB early that morning, though a Search for her was never carried out as it was a Ransom note. Three officers were tasked with checking entry & exit points, yet failed to pull open the cellar door & go in there & they failed to go through the train room door also, thinking it was a cupboard door, they by-passed it. Two of them went around the exterior at separate times early that morning, one with a flashlight. Both failed to see those windows under the grate where one was clearly broken at the top section, being a gaping hole. That broken window was Not where the perps got in the house, but That is Not the point.
*Only America & one other country still has a stupid grand jury system. It is unfair, unjust & doesn't work. The jurors only hear from the prosecution, who get to pick & choose what evidence is presented & which witnesses appear. There is no judge, no defence lawyers & unless subpoenaed by the prosecution - No experts to rebut Whatever is presented. As a consequence, the jury vote on the side of the prosecution 98.6% of the time. And the BPD withheld a great deal of vital evidence. FYI - the vote was Not for murder. Unlike the jury, the general public & the media, the DA actually Saw all the evidence known about at that time as did Lou Smit, one of the best investigators in the country. Less than half the States, still have this abysmal grand jury system. The DNA alone Proved just how Wrong the jury Were. The jurors were Conned into believing Patsy wrote that Ridiculous note, that’s All.*
The investigators Present refused to target the Ramseys but unfortunately Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later & his goal was to make a name for himself. 18 months later he illegally took evidence material from the BPD, snuck off on a ruse & then resigned on national TV, an act that was unheard of in law enforcement history. Of course, the reading of his Pathetic letter blaming the DA for his Own failings, was his Marketing Ploy for his book of BS, blaming Patsy because of a notepad & he commenced book tours. He was promptly sued for that book of Lies, but soo many have forgotten about or don’t know about That, either. He garnered money from the public for his defence but come time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his ‘Story’. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of dollars he made from that book. The investigation Continued with a bevy of actual Seasoned private investigators who had full integrity & worked tirelessly Unpaid to catch the highly sadistic killers of this child & at the same time, they hoped to save another.
What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on national TV & for Years? NONE. The Ramseys continued that til Patsy died in 2006 & John continued the same & does to this day.
Very few know about a libel case in 2003 - Wolf vs Ramsey, where Federal Court Judge Carnes got to go over the evidence known about at that stage. Carnes declared the Ramseys factually innocent due to the 'Abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder'. All can read that 93 page document online. She also had quite a bit to say about Steve Thomas in relation to his role as a police officer & about some of the BS in his book. She was particularly incensed about him stating a time of death for JB when he was not a doctor nor a pathologist. He made up a time of death to suit his own agenda & for that book, being for, his own financial gain. Carnes was also quite scathing in relation to Cina Wong who tried to present evidence about that note when Wong had no qualifications to call herself a writing analyst let alone an expert & she never had the original copy of the note. There was No basis for that case to go forward to trial so Wolfe lost. Pages showing fake writing As If Patsy’s writing ‘samples’ & As If from police files, continue to appear on vids about this case. The pages are all Fake. Wong put out a video of course, showing a whiteboard with samples of the letters from the note down columns & letters Next to those, exactly the same, As If Patsy wrote those letters, it’s all Fake.
Every man & his dog has been out to make Money off the back of this high profile crime.
The Ramseys & Loads of others, including known pedos, were Cleared by the DNA a Long time ago.
The DNA from one of the unknown males was developed & has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2007 - same unknown male DNA as from the underpants at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & the outside there. The Ramseys were finally Exonerated publicly & Officially in 2008 due to All the evidence that Showed someone Was in the house, over 200 pieces of, Plus the DNA from the unknown male, that had also cleared John Mark Karr in 2006, who said he did it.
Next testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic. The other is a white guy, Seen crossing the Ramsey’s backyard after they left for the White’s Xmas dinner. This was reported & newsworthy at the time. All the false & misleading information given to the media by the BPD did push this vital piece of Evidence under the rug. Then all the books of BS with all the versions of Whatever, took the case into a whole new level & the never ending same old same old False information continues with many making up New false information for the titillation factor. Years down the track James Kolar was in the office of the DA, Mary Lacy, for a very short time & was Fired. He also ran off to write His book of BS & blamed Burke because he needed new fodder. Like Steve Thomas, Kolar had Never worked a murder case either. His ‘Story’ was so ludicrous, no publisher would touch it. He had to pay to self-publish & to very poor sales. He was & still is, just Another con artist & Proven Liar. Then CBS heard the sound of Kerching & that Bogus ‘show’ was aired in 2016, predominately blaming Burke & that’s why Kolar was on there like a Snake in the grass.
*NOBODY would Write 3 pages of 365 words & numbers as a ransom note plus use their Own notepad & use their Own marker & then put both of those items near the phone For The COPS. There is something seriously Wrong with all those who believe Patsy did That!*
The next Commander in charge by the name of Mark Beckner, was put in place in December 1997. He eventually found some integrity & publicly stated in 2015, words to the effect - “when the owner of the DNA is found, there’s your killer”.
*All highly ignorant Ramsey bashers need to get this Very Clear - You Do NOT Know Better than some of the Best investigators in the country or the Expert crime scene techs or the Top forensic scientists or the FBI or the Secret Service or the DAs or the Federal Court Judge or John Douglas or Lou Smit OR the Boulder PD, who, for Many Years & to this day Also state that the Ramseys - Are Innocent.
**The Boulder PD issued a statement via the media - 1st May, 2022.
Recently a cold case team were put together & have now started working this case. The government are Not spending Loads of $$ going after the Proven INNOCENT Ramseys.
The Ramseys were up so early that morning because they were to head to their holiday house in Charlevoix on their private plane. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies - for Help. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. BTW - the Cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come who also arrived early that morning. The Ramseys did Nothing to themselves by way of ‘how they acted’ at all & the 8 cops & detectives present that day, had No problems believing they were Genuine. Officer Rick French was the first person & officer to arrive & within 6 minutes of the start of the 911 call. He saw that Patsy was near hysterical & at point of collapse & he had John & Patsy sit in the sunroom. He did a cursory look around then officer Veitch arrived.. Of the 8 cops & detectives who arrived at various times that morning, nobody was searching for JB, it was a Ransom note. Except for Arndt, all were gone by about 10.30 a.m.
Linda Arndt didn't arrive til 8.10 a.m. & With detective Patterson. At different times early that morning, 3 cops were tasked with checking entry & exit points only, all 3 Failed at that job. 2 of those 3 officers plus one taking photos went down the basement at different times, all 3 failed to flip the latch down on the top of the cellar door, pull open the door & go in. All 3 saw gear in front of the train room door & by-passed that door, as did Fleet White. The broken window is Not where the perps entered the house, but the BPD went to great lengths to make sure that the public Still don’t know that Their cops didn’t even know about that window til that Evening, when they went back. That’s why the ‘famous’ photo of the open window, shows that it was taken in the Night.
Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a Frenzy because the child was found murdered in the home after 1 pm., when many cops had been there for Many hours. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. What better way to shut the Ramseys up about the cops’ Failings that morning than to throw mud at the Ramseys & they used the Media to do that. Within one week, the Ramseys were ducking for cover & the cops were cleaning their nails.
Many weeks later, Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like that & quit. Her next job was as a tree lopper.
*It was the lousy Cops who should have found JB & early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon & he did Not go ‘straight to the cellar’.
Arndt tried to sue the BPD for Money but the lost the case. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too.. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain due to the court case & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview on national TV. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to do all she could to help find the killer.
Due to Arndt’s stories in that hilarious interview - many of the public believe that Arndt was the first officer at the scene & many believe she was the Only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, but her & the BPD are more than happy for the public to believe That BS as Well. It was Her who carried the body to the living room rug near the Xmas tree.
Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That either - for her breakout debut with a numbskull reporter whose only job was to try & keep a straight face.
The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke separately to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. They did Everything the cops asked them to do. John asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas was an ex-narcotics officer & had No experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. Thomas constantly talked about the Book he was going to write & if anyone went against His theory, they were ridiculed & ostracized. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The Present investigators had No concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house. False & misleading information was being leaked to the media. The cops were made to publicly Apologise later for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. The Ramseys organised to do the Formal interview for when they returned from Atlanta burying their daughter, the cops cancelled that interview as they did more than once. It didn’t go ahead til April, big Deal. Loads of people don’t do formal interviews At All & lots don’t speak to the cops Ever. The Ramseys still had Nothing to Hide & they went on national TV soo many times, nobody can count the number up right. Being interviewed by all & sundry & being asked about the same Hurtful aspects over & over again whilst being Accused & being open to the scrutiny of all the loons to squawk about every blink of an eye, while the ever accusing keystone cops were doing Jackshit trying to find the sadistic murderer of their child. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. The Ramseys went broke trying to find who murdered their child & hoped to Save another. When the money ran out, many Seasoned investigators continued the search Unpaid. Not one of them have written a Book. *What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue to this day.* The current info about the DNA has been national news for over 2 years, only the highly ignorant Ramsey bashers ignore that Scientific evidence. CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case, asking for the DNA evidence items.
Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that & a pair of black pants to the White’s Xmas night dinner. They were up so early on the 26th because they were to take their plane to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at the Minneapolis airport & then all were going to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again. That morning, she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She planned on having a bath when they got to their holiday house, after the long flight. That house had everything they needed.
Patsy found the note & only read to about - ‘we have your daughter’ & raced back upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he told her to call the police. She was using the wall phone in the alcove near the kitchen, John was on the floor reading the note over & over Then. The public need to find out about the layout of that Huge 4 level mansion. Patsy had been racing around a long distance plus the spiral staircase 2 times - in shock & great fear, she was so stressed that she couldn’t even get her words out at the Very Beginning of that Desperate 911 call & what came out was Babble.
In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Really had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. There was a cupboard under that wall phone, if Patsy had forgot to hang up, all would have heard Clunk.
The various made up Stories about ‘red’ fibres from Patsy’s sweater, also Not true.
One needs to think about the Major Players behind this made up Saga of who did what - Steve Thomas put it all on Patsy, Linda Arndt decided Later that she’d blame John & James Kolar chose Burke - neither of these so-called 'police' had Ever worked a murder case before or after but, they were all about writing a Book. Each one put their mugs on National TV, trying for fame & fortune, they Failed at that job also. All 3 are such an Embarrassment for law enforcement around the world & then there’s the Fact that they’re all Proven Liars.
Why is the interviewer protecting them so strongly?? Isn't he supposed to be on the fence!!
Because there were a lot of strangers walking around the house BEFORE the murder, since in Colorado they like to show off Christmas decorations to the whole neighborhood. Naive mistakes like that are what leads to this stuff. Look up Elizabeth Smart. Her parents allowed a random homeless guy to do carpentry work on their house. A week later the homeless guy kidnapped Elizabeth Smart. If you allow people to enter your house, then you're inviting danger too. Patsy and John are naive. The world is a dangerous place
This 'interview' is a set up by Todd with the other guy saying what he does just so Toddy boy can Retort with the made up Garbage as Practised to do.
this interview was sponsored....isnt it obvious?
The 'interview' is a Sham, a set up by two lowlife con artists for the purpose of making Money from all the hateful Ramsey bashers.
He promises new evidence - I am at the edge of my seat.
I think it is possible but its also possible Burke did it and parents covered up for him. The so called sexual asult might be Burke playing doctor or Patsy punishing Jonbennet . The thing that they lie about Burke being awake says a lot.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
The Ramseys were up so early that morning because they were to head to their holiday house in Charlevoix on their private plane. It was before 6 a.m., pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Who would know how long the cops would take to get there. After that desperate 911 call, Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies - for Help. John Fernie later called their pastor for prayers & comfort, it was going to be a long wait, the note said Tomorrow. BTW - the Cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come who also arrived early that morning. The Ramseys did Nothing to themselves by way of ‘how they acted’ at all & the 8 cops & detectives present that day, had No problems believing they were Genuine. Officer Rick French was the first person & officer to arrive & within 6 minutes of the start of the 911 call. He saw that Patsy was near hysterical & at point of collapse & he had John & Patsy sit in the sunroom. He did a cursory look around then officer Veitch arrived.. Of the 8 cops & detectives who arrived at various times that morning, nobody was searching for JB, it was a Ransom note. Except for Arndt, all were gone by about 10.30 a.m.
Linda Arndt didn't arrive til 8.10 a.m. & With detective Patterson. At different times early that morning, 3 cops were tasked with checking entry & exit points only, all 3 Failed at that job. 2 of those 3 officers plus one taking photos went down the basement at different times, all 3 failed to flip the latch down on the top of the cellar door, pull open the door & go in. All 3 saw gear in front of the train room door & by-passed that door, as did Fleet White. The broken window is Not where the perps entered the house, but the BPD went to great lengths to make sure that the public Still don’t know that Their cops didn’t even know about that window til that Evening, when they went back. That’s why the ‘famous’ photo of the open window, shows that it was taken in the Night.
Arndt wrote a Favourable report about the Ramseys & said their behaviour was appropriate to the circumstances. The media went into a Frenzy because the child was found murdered in the home after 1 pm., when many cops had been there for Many hours. The BPD then went into damage control to save their Own asses & so the BS began. What better way to shut the Ramseys up about the cops’ Failings that morning than to throw mud at the Ramseys & they used the Media to do that. Within one week, the Ramseys were ducking for cover & the cops were cleaning their nails.
Many weeks later, Arndt was put on desk duties, didn’t like that & quit. Her next job was as a tree lopper.
*It was the lousy Cops who should have found JB & early that morning, Not her poor father that afternoon & he did Not go ‘straight to the cellar’.
Arndt tried to sue the BPD for Money but the lost the case. Next - she had great acting lessons for that Performance on national TV because she was after a book deal Too.. Her report to the BPD was in the public domain due to the court case & so, she was Caught as a Liar & later retracted all she said in that abysmal interview on national TV. Somewhere along the line she had Regret at least & when Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her & apologised for all she had said for the TV audience & vowed to do all she could to help find the killer.
Due to Arndt’s stories in that hilarious interview - many of the public believe that Arndt was the first officer at the scene & many believe she was the Only officer at the house all day when That is not true either, but her & the BPD are more than happy for the public to believe That BS as Well. It was Her who carried the body to the living room rug near the Xmas tree.
Arndt knew Full Well the note said Tomorrow but deliberately didn’t mention That either - for her breakout debut with a numbskull reporter whose only job was to try & keep a straight face.
The Ramseys gave the cops free reign to their house from the minute officer French walked in the door because they had Nothing to hide. They spoke separately to the cops & detectives in total, for Hours that morning & after JB was found. Burke was interviewed when still at the Whites at 2 p.m. by detective Patterson, Neither parent was present, nor did they know that was happening. John spoke with the Ds that night, Patsy was bedridden by then. Arndt asked John for them to go to the PD on the 28th. The Ramseys had already witnessed how inept the cops Were & John hired a private investigator straight away. All Ramseys gave the required samples & John spoke to the Ds for 2 hours again that day. They did Everything the cops asked them to do. John asked Eller to speak to Patsy at the house where they were staying because she was so ill & medicated, Eller refused to do that. Steve Thomas was brought in because the Present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. Thomas was an ex-narcotics officer & had No experience with Any murder case before & thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. Thomas constantly talked about the Book he was going to write & if anyone went against His theory, they were ridiculed & ostracized. The BPD rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. The next 2 up the ladder had No experience with homicide Either. The BPD refused help from the FBI, the CBI & the Denver PD. The Present investigators had No concerns about deception but Then the body was found in the house. False & misleading information was being leaked to the media. The cops were made to publicly Apologise later for saying there were no footprints in the snow, but the damage was done. It didn’t even snow that night & old snow at the front Only. The Ramseys were told they were being targeted & advised to get lawyers. Very sound advice & the Right of All citizens. The talk was through the lawyers then, That's how it Goes. The Ramseys organised to do the Formal interview for when they returned from Atlanta burying their daughter, the cops cancelled that interview as they did more than once. It didn’t go ahead til April, big Deal. Loads of people don’t do formal interviews At All & lots don’t speak to the cops Ever. The Ramseys still had Nothing to Hide & they went on national TV soo many times, nobody can count the number up right. Being interviewed by all & sundry & being asked about the same Hurtful aspects over & over again whilst being Accused & being open to the scrutiny of all the loons to squawk about every blink of an eye, while the ever accusing keystone cops were doing Jackshit trying to find the sadistic murderer of their child. John went on to hire 3 more private investigators. The Ramseys went broke trying to find who murdered their child & hoped to Save another. When the money ran out, many Seasoned investigators continued the search Unpaid. Not one of them have written a Book. *What guilty person, let alone Two, would subject themselves to soo many interviews with soo many reporters on National TV & for Years? NONE. And John continued that after Patsy died. He & John Andrew continue to this day.* The current info about the DNA has been national news for over 2 years, only the highly ignorant Ramsey bashers ignore that Scientific evidence. CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case, asking for the DNA evidence items.
Patsy liked to wear red for Xmas & had bought a new red sweater that had baubles on it. She wore that & a pair of black pants to the White’s Xmas night dinner. They were up so early on the 26th because they were to take their plane to meet John Andrew, Melinda & her boyfriend at the Minneapolis airport & then all were going to their Charlevoix house for a 2nd Xmas gift-giving. No doubt Patsy wanted to show off her Xmassy sweater again. That morning, she threw that on with the same pants, re-did her make-up & was ready to go when she went down the stairs. She planned on having a bath when they got to their holiday house, after the long flight. That house had everything they needed.
Patsy found the note & only read to about - ‘we have your daughter’ & raced back upstairs to find JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he told her to call the police. She was using the wall phone in the alcove near the kitchen, John was on the floor reading the note over & over Then. The public need to find out about the layout of that Huge 4 level mansion. Patsy had been racing around a long distance plus the spiral staircase 2 times - in shock & great fear, she was so stressed that she couldn’t even get her words out at the Very Beginning of that Desperate 911 call & what came out was Babble.
In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the cradle is Clearly heard - CLICK. IF the cops Really had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. And, Steve Thomas refused to have that call forensically sound tested. Funny that. There was a cupboard under that wall phone, if Patsy had forgot to hang up, all would have heard Clunk.
The various made up Stories about ‘red’ fibres from Patsy’s sweater, also Not true.
One needs to think about the Major Players behind this made up Saga of who did what - Steve Thomas put it all on Patsy, Linda Arndt decided Later that she’d blame John & James Kolar chose Burke - neither of these so-called 'police' had Ever worked a murder case before or after but, they were all about writing a Book. Each one put their mugs on National TV, trying for fame & fortune, they Failed at that job also. All 3 are such an Embarrassment for law enforcement around the world & then there’s the Fact that they’re all Proven Liars.
I always felt it was Burke as well. I do not think the parents would have covered for each other. I think if either John or Patsy did it, they would have turned the other in. But they both would protect Burke, probably afraid to lose another child. That is not to say Burke did it on purpose as I don't believe he did. I think the whole thing was a tragic accident of rough housing gone too far. I think it explains Patsy saying 'we arent talking to you' on the phone (if that is what was said.) I do not for a second believe there was an intruder. This is all just my opinion though, and I most certainly could be wrong.
I also think the Grand Jury results and recommendations indicate Burke. Neither Patsy or John were indicted on murder charges, but allowing JonBenet to remain in a dangerous environment. In my opinion that could mean Burke, especially if he was prone at that time to have issues or a violent streak.
Beth Ryan…..Come on John or Burke….whichever one you are. You cannot deny that John contaminated that crime scene when he touched and moved Jonbenet’s dead, stiffened body. That was done on purpose to compromise any police investigation…..and it worked beautifully for them.
Thankyou! I was 15 when this happened and I've followed the case ever since and agree with everything chris said. I always believed the parents were involved. In 1996 there also would have been dna left everywhere if there was an intruder. Everything points to the family there is nothing imo that proves there was an intruder. When you look at all the evidence and all the archives of police interviews and TV appearances and read the books there is only one logical theory and its not an intruder. The ransom note is the smoking gun for me. Thankyou for saying everything I want to say. John ramsey Sr needs to stop with his charade enough is enough he needs to be honest. I can only hope the truth comes out when he passes away but I fear the ramsey family will take this secret to their graves
Yeah for soo many brainwashed zombies, John & Patsy must have come across as dumb & dumber hey & obviously both being Dumbos, they dropped a trail of breadcrumbs that led straight to Themselves because according to all you Ramsey family annihilators, apparently they were such absolute Imbeciles, they also had No Idea that Colorado had the Death Penalty. Yet for Normal people, they come across as Very well Educated.
FYI - newspapers & magazines - make Money from the Public.
All TV shows - make Money from the Public.
Radio - makes Money from the Public.
Writers of books - make Money from the Public.
So-called Experts - make Money from the Public.
Cops write books & primp themselves for TV interviews, to - make Money from the Public.
And so the Brainwashing of the Public - Began.
A whole Industry was born out of this little girl’s highly sadistic Torture & very brutal Murder.
For the Sole purpose of Making Money from the Public.
People do interviews & say Whatever for the Same reasons - $$$.
Utube content creators are the New version of all of the above & they also say what they do to - make Money from the Public.
And a whole New industry was born via the internet.
Steve Thomas, James Kolar & Linda Arndt had Never worked a murder case Before or since.
All 3 have Never - Solved a murder case.
But all 3 sure tried Very hard to - make Money from the Public.
All 3 Failed because they’re All - Proven Liars.
Thomas tried to get all rich & famous by blaming Patsy. Arndt tried to get all rich & famous blaming John. Burke was Never even a suspect. Many years later though, Kolar was working in the DA’s office for a short time. Before he was Fired, he left & then wrote a book also, blaming the 9 year old Kid - for the Same reason as the other 2 - trying to get all rich & famous. Great, all 3 people asleep & in the house that Christmas Day night are - covered. And the Public like You, are as happy as Pigs In Mud.
Something else that was a First in history - a cop reading out his resignation letter for National TV.
But Steve Thomas had an Agenda - he was writing a Book, so his TV gig was a marketing Ploy. He’d already Illegally taken Case Evidence from the Boulder PD. He went off on ‘leave’ & never went back.
He was promptly sued for his book of Lies, blaming Patsy because of a notepad. He garnered money from the Public for his defence lawyer but when time for court, he refused to get on the stand to back his Story. The case was settled out of court & he lost every cent of the hundreds of thousands of Dollars that he made from his book of BS, thanks to - the Public’s pay checks. So, just so you know - lawyers from Both sides got, Your Money. LOL.
Before this case, Thomas was a narcotics officer & his partner was an auto theft officer. Thomas used to always talk about the book he was going to write.
Arndt had been taken off the case in the early stages, was put on desk duties then Quit. She tried to sue the BPD but lost the case. She had great acting lessons & so, her Performance for Her national TV appearance. She too was after a book deal. Her report to the BPD about the Ramseys for that day & afterwards was in the public domain due to the court case & she’d said the Opposite about the Ramseys. So she was Caught as a liar for her TV ‘show’ & later retracted all she said. When Patsy was dying, Arndt went to see her to apologise for everything she’d said in that Hilarious interview, then vowed to do anything she could to help find who murdered JonBenet.
Arndt tried her best to do a Jodi Foster but actually pulled off a Hannibal Lecter. LMAO.
No publisher would touch Kolar’s book so he had to get into his retirement fund & published it himself - to Very poor sales. Jim Clemente & CBS saw $$ signs & here was Another plasticine cop - for International TV. And so the Bogus doc that was released in 2016, blaming Burke but also the parents, of course - so all 3 were Covered.
According to all of those Con Artists - mum & dad put their slaughtered little 6 year old in the dank, dark, mouldy former Coal cellar & leaving her there with tied loops of the cord over her wrists, her arms extended over her head & with the cord left Embedded in her neck, they shut the door of the room that was - the Only room in the whole 4 levels of that huge mansion, that Didn’t Have a Window.
According to the Masses, apparently mum & dad thought they were criminal masterminds now, so they chose Patsy’s notepad for Patsy to sit down & Write - 365 Words, 36 numbers & 10 symbols that would All get her Caught plus the Death Penalty.
Massive numbers of the Public believe that Patsy wrote a two & half page Ransom note in her Own handwriting & on her Own notepad & used her Own marker & put the marker in the pen cup & the notepad near the phone, For The COPS!.
The CBS ‘show’ was due to be aired & Burke did an interview with Dr Phil for 2 reasons - to defend himself & to remind the Public that his sister’s murder was still unsolved. The very next day, the Globe printed a headline cover & said Burke murdered his 6 year old sister. The Globe was sued & had to pay up big $$ - of Your money.
That slippery CBS ‘show’ was aired & CBS were sued for the ‘Gross Misleading of the Public’. The so-called ‘experts’ plus Kolar, who all participated in the Scam, were Included in the suit. Lee & Spitz were personally sued for their deliberate lies & misinformation. Lee & Spitz who testified in Favour for - OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony & Michael Peterson, for example.
CBS settled the case out of court & had to pay up with Mega millions of Dollars - of Your Money. LOL.
In reality, its all you Ramsey bashers who Paid - Burke. LMAO.
FYI - the Ramseys went broke trying to find the killer of their Precious Child.
Within the 1st two weeks of the murder, DNA results were back that the BPD kept secret, even from the DA for 7 months.
The results - JB’s DNA under her fingernails plus Unknown male DNA mixed with JB’s DNA under both of her pinkie fingernails. The autopsy photos show - dig marks from JB’s fingernails at the front of her neck At the cord, because she was fighting for her life when being strangled to death.
Suspects were being Cleared due to that DNA, including known paedophiles.
The X-ray of JB’s skull shows 2 severe fractures of the skull - one was Open, front to back & nearly the length of the skull. The second was at the 1st fracture at the top & a Hole, the skull piece split in 2 & inside. It is a Fact that if Either of those separate gross fractures Had occurred Before death, the skull would have been filled with blood, It Wasn’t. Living creatures don’t bleed when we’re Dead.
Lou Smit was one of The best investigators in the country & helped Solve over 200 murder cases. But it was some months before he was contacted & brought out of retirement. His conclusion was that a sexual sadist was the perpetrator.
The 1st & 2nd of rank who were in charge at the BPD had Never dealt with a homicide case. Boulder rarely had a murder & this was the 1st for 1996.
Two spots of blood in the underpants were Never sent away for testing. This didn’t come to light til the grand jury was about to convene. The results - saliva from Unknown male mixed in one of the spots of JB’s blood - in the size 12-14 underpants that were taken from the New packet that were in the back of the drawer in JB’s bathroom, for her to have, Years later. These were originally bought for her cousin, but JB wanted them, as a New Barbie doll had a pair, same name.
With advances in Science - the DNA was developed & entered into CODIS in 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA.
The Public need to Understand that the investigation Continued with expert Seasoned investigators, some of the Best in the country, who worked this case Unpaid. None of them have written a book, for their own financial Gain.
In 2003, Federal Court Judge Carne saw the case material known about at that stage & her findings were documented, 93 pages - that the Ramseys were factually Innocent due to the ‘abundance of evidence that pointed to an intruder’.
John Mark Karr was wanted in the U.S. in relation to child porn charges, when he declared that he murdered JB. He was arrested in Thailand & brought back. He was Cleared of JB’s murder by the DNA.
More DNA testing was ordered in 2007 & the results - same unknown male DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, inside & outside there, pulled up/down. These, now 3 lots of results of the DNA testing from 1996 til 2008, were carried out at different labs.
The Ramseys were finally & officially exonerated in 2008 due to the Overwhelming evidence that showed someone was in the house, Over 200 pieces of. That Actual evidence included the DNA, which is Scientific evidence.
Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is hispanic.
CeCe Moore has publicly weighed in on this case - she wants to do Her specialised testing with the DNA.
Recently a cold case team were put together & they have now started working this case. The government sure aren’t paying out Loads of dollars to go after this Proven Innocent family.
Basic Known FACTS - Patsy was dressed & ready to go, found the note, read a few lines, raced back upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John. She could only say about a note & JB gone, he said to call the police. 2 males had got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the White’s Xmas dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m., in her bed JB was choked with the cord, tasered on her back, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent that went out the window of the boiler room, front of the house. Fibres from the frayed ends of the cord were found on JB’s sheet & are in evidence. Both perps ran out a dickie door through the garage, down to the back, waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. That was Not a garrotte, it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity as part of the torture during vile acts. Due to this & positioning, plus JB was given a lot of water over this period of Hours, is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. A square of carpet & underlay at the boiler room entry was cut out due to the pee stain & that’s in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific, then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's Exact height. The end of the paintbrush that was used at her privates was cut off & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was Not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did Not eat Any pineapple that was in that bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded police statement of ’98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of the small Intestine was Different to the pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. *There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then both fractures of the skull that were also pre-planned if the cops were called, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down nearly the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the rounded handle end of the black steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would still be on the phone. That phone was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It's easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers into the note as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise her writing which is Impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Meyer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. This plan, JB was Never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known - Plus, due to the crime scene techs who did an excellent job in taking all the photos, videos & collecting the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. But Steve Thomas was brought into the case 3 days later because the investigators Present, refused to target the Ramseys. He later went on to Pretend that he was the lead detective. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a Ransom, which Was the First crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile case. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about False & Misleading information to the media. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were in his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Early that morning, separately, 3 officers failed to go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo or the cops’ walk-thru video & see the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. The silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree on the handle that was like the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of Plus the DNA that had already cleared them & lots of others including known pedos & then John Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2023, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up. *I have left out the details of the vile acts perpetrated upon this poor child as a bit sensitive for the page.
There is / Was DNA
The DNA
Is Not a Match
To John Patsy Burke
Or Any Family Members
The Boulder Police and
Law Enforcement involved
In the investigation Screwed Up
The House / Scene Should have
Been cordoned off and
No Police Officer Should Ever
Be Telling the Family to Search
The House
The Police Should Be Conducting
The Search investigation
The DNA Can Be Gentetic Tested
For Famial Results
John Ramsey Himself Has Offered
To Pay for the Cost of Testing
The Law Enforcement Department
Which has custody of the DNA
Refuses to Let Testing be Done
Yes People are Sick and Evil
And do kill their children and
Loved ones
But DNA and Video Don't Lie
The DNA is Not a Match
They Did Not Do This
What are the Police Hiding
Besides Their Botched Investigation?
Why Won't They Let The Famial Genetic
Testing Be Done?
@@bethryan9077Stop with all your nonsensical idiotic theories. No intruder , never was never will be!
DNA was found in 3places, saliva in her panties, the waistband of her pj bottoms, and the skin scrapings under her fingernails. All of it, tested by three labs, said it came from an unknown man. There were also palm prints and shoe prints that matched none of the Ramseys. Pubic hair was found on the blanket that covered her. Both John and Patsy submitted samples but they didn’t match.
In the 911 call...Patsy was asked who she was? She responds " , I' m THE mother", not" I'm HER mother." Classic dis-association .
Phil that's interesting..