I could see it! It does basically everything, does it well, and in a small package with great battery life. If you're keeping only one piece of gear, this is definitely one of the most well-rounded options for sure.
@@michaelayassa6930Yeah, I thought so at first, since I prefered the the step sequencer concept of the OP-Z for faster results and wilder jamming at first. I was about to put up my field for sale to get the XY, then I jammed with it for a few hours, and fell in love all over again. And its quirky and unique tape core clicked with me more than ever before. So, while the XY might be TE‘s best product yet, my heart‘s with the field. So, I won‘t sell, and won‘t purchase. OP-1 remains my 1 and only :D
I just found a super cheap OPZ and paired it with the field, sequencing with Bluetooth midi is fun. One thing I wish they would add is more sample engines like a granular synth or something
The OP-1 cost what it cost, in hardware and software development. If someone says its expensive for what it is, then there needs to be an equivalent that exist at a much lower cost in the market. But there isn't, so its only an expense to someone that can't afford it. If you own this for 10 years then sell it for 30-40% of what you paid for it (1,999 + tax) you are paying $170 per year to lease it. People pay more than $14 a month to lease a smartphone. So yeah, the OP-1 is one of the cheapest electronic gadget that you can own.
Exactly! It's really not that bad, especially when factoring in resale. Honestly that's partly why I don't mind buying anything in the music gear space. I take such good care of my things that I'm always able to sell pieces on after trying them out and I barely lose anything - especially if you're able to get a good deal or buy during a sale. Most music gear really holds its value.
It's interesting that nobody sets out to clone the op-1. It seems completely doable from a software standpoint to reproduce the strict tape emulation workflow, but no other company wants to adopt the inherent limitations that come with tape. It makes sense, because on paper devices like the MPC One are strictly superior from the production angle. I just think tape has a fun factor that makes op-1 uniquely enjoyable to use
@@Me-ne5uu lol it is kinda funny but if you think about it, you're pretty safe to try out anything in the music gear space without much risk - the most risk I've faced is buying something expensive and then realizing you can't live without it haha - and then you own it for real 😅
Not gonna lie, I'm about to do the same I think! I plan to keep both for a while and see how I feel after using them side by side for a year or so maybe and then go from there. I picture making beats on the XY and then live jamming on top with the OP-1 - maybe - probably haha.
I sold my OP-1 primarily due to the lack of DIN MIDI. Then I heard about the OP-1 Field, and still no DIN... this machine would be so much more attractive with 2 MIDI ports
Totally! It's really hard to believe they didn't add that. I think partly due to this issue I'm always going to just sample the OP into something else - which I'm liking ok so far, but there are so many reasons why having midi on board would helpful/useful. Oh wellll.
@@Gummo22 Thank you! Going to be putting out a bit more varied content in the new year, looking forward to seeing where that takes the channel - keeps things interesting for me too =)
The og OP-1 was the most I’ve connected with an instrument, and the most productive I’ve been…. But the lack of undo, unwanted noise, and reliability made me get rid of it. Had my screen go out, cost $200 and it was gone for 3 months. But man I want the new field, just worried about the reliability still.
Mannn I feel your pain on the lack of UNDO, I've definitely been burned by that too many times. This one is missing the noise issues for sure, which some consider a drawback haha. I think I'm happy with what I've got since adding noise is a lot easier than removing haha. Reliability wise I've been good so far, knock on wood. Being out of service for 3 months sucks though, one would hope they're better at that sort of thing now and/or the screens are more reliable - preferably both haha.
Reliability and support are the only reason I don't commit to an OP1f. I briefly owned one and really loved it, but it seemed less durable than the original OP1. I could afford to buy one but not replace one if it broke and TE isn't known for having good support unfortunately.
@@james.tupper Interesting that it seemed less durable to you - why was that? I've never owned an OG so I'm genuinely curious what areas feel downgraded
@@Duskmos The main reason is that the keys are raised above the edge of the device and it's easier for them to get caught on something. The keys are seemingly a bit thinner and the switches feel more delicate (that part could be my imagination, but the OG just feels a bit more robust). Additionally, because it's made of anodized aluminum, it's more scratch prone than the OG which has a pretty durable hard painted coating. Don't get me wrong, it feels nice and premium, but it feels more like a piece of jewelry that you have to be careful with rather than a fun tool you can just toss into a bag. I'm sure the price has a lot to do with that. Aside from that, it's a pretty amazing instrument and I'd still love to own one if I can get it at the right price.
1000% different way of working. I did an extensive video on that too, and while I think it’s amazing for what it is, the M8 is just def not for me. I wanted to love it though haha.
Hated what this stood for for years. Was very bigoted by the online personae TE puts out. Then tried one...😢 Wished I had sooner. Learnt my lesson. As someone who adores working on huge clunking vintage analog stuff this thing was a revelation
Not enough people talking about how the OP-1 sequencers are a joke. I could get around to the tape workflow if the sequencers were more robust and flexible so I knew what I was going to record in was just the right thing.
The sequencers are a bit of a weak point for sure. I like the creative looseness which matches the tape workflow in my mind, but for laying down a beat it’s not super ideal for sure. I’m glad at least the recorder starts when you hold down a key - that’s something. I’m excited to see how well the OP-XY “rights these wrongs” 🤞
So obvious the elephant in the room is the price, otherwise no one would think twice or complain and just buy it. But why is price so sensitive a topic? It’s because TE is actually asking too little for the op-1f. But that’s crazy, right? Everyone talks about how it’s too expensive. Well, no. You see the OP-1F is not really a serious music making device (ducks head). What I mean is, it eschews all the industry standard I/O and common sense features (undo??) and deep parameter tweaking and even standard names for things that are expected in high-quality studio or even portable equipment. It is a luxury item priced at an enthusiast price point, not a luxury price point. IMO it should be at least $5000 to indicate and signal that this is not an aspirational buy for the serious middle class hobbyist; it’s a toy for the wealthy for whom price isn’t a concern at all. It’s a Birkin Bag or Rolex; a Ferrari or a Park Ave condo. People don’t spend hours and days griping at the insane prices for clothing. They just accept that that clothing isn’t for them. The issue here is that the OP-1F is marketed as simply a music sketchpad and not a premium toy. It’s not separated by a TE Pro brand or something, like Toyota and Lexus; it’s merely another product from the same company that made POs and other reasonably priced music gadgets. TE’s branding is way off and confusing and the pricing for this is wrong and so you get outrage and lots of hot takes since people who thought TE was democratizing making music have to realize the hard way that they aren’t and that the fact people can’t afford their stuff just doesn’t bother them. The passion people of all wealth levels have for the TE products they love is met with the realization that their coolest and best thing yet is being gatekept by a price that is juuust high enough to make the opportunity cost sting for everyone but those with deep pockets. I mean, in their defense they don’t call themselves Socially-Conscious Adult Engineering…
I agree on many points! Price is so personal it’s definitely hard to say from one person to the next, though I think they’ll always be taking flack for pricing - and yet always still sell tons of products. All the pricing drama is free press too, so hey, whatever keeps them around I’m happy for haha 😆
It sounds like the bottom of the line is just saying that poor people can’t afford it and if you’re poor, don’t get it stick to what you can afford. It’s a little messed up but bottom line summed out that’s what you’re saying in my opinion and remember, it’s just my opinion..
Not at all! There are options for everyone. I think this one happens to be expensive, but I don’t think it’s too expensive *for what it is*. Gold is expensive but it’s gold, but you don’t have to buy gold - nothing else is going to be gold, but do you need gold? Can you afford gold? I’m def not saying poor people can’t afford it, although if someone is truly poor, they should probably prioritize other purchases. I’m just saying that if someone can’t afford a thing, does that mean it’s overpriced? No, I think it just becomes not an option for said person. I want a Ferrari F40, it’s millions of dollars, can I afford it? No. Should I buy one anyway? No. Is it worth that kind of money? Apparently, to some, but I’m not going to sit here and say it’s too expensive. It just is what it is and to me, that’s ok. 👍
@Duskmos gold and the op-z1 Field are two different things I don't see to comparison and that at all I mean you can't make music with gold. And not to mention I believe gold is a luxury item. There's other technology out there that does the same thing that that does and maybe more for lots less so I really can't see where it should be that price I think it's a little bit of pocket gouging and the more we keep making excuses for companies to overprice things like that the more they'll do it because we just simply stand aside and say oh that's okay Even though we know it's way too expensive for what it is.
@MrAkkamne It’s an analogy - you can use other metals, you can use other tools - other metals are good, other tools are good, different expense but similar outcomes, etc.
It does have a high price tag but it does almost everything - so there’s not really any competitors doing exactly what this does. You can spend $10,000 on a rack mount EQ if you want to. For what all the OP-1 crams in, I’d argue it’s actually a good value, but I hear you.
The field is my favorite music device I’ve ever owned. If I could only keep one device it would be this.
I could see it! It does basically everything, does it well, and in a small package with great battery life. If you're keeping only one piece of gear, this is definitely one of the most well-rounded options for sure.
Me too 👍🏻👍🏻
Wait to see the op xy 😏
@@michaelayassa6930Yeah, I thought so at first, since I prefered the the step sequencer concept of the OP-Z for faster results and wilder jamming at first. I was about to put up my field for sale to get the XY, then I jammed with it for a few hours, and fell in love all over again. And its quirky and unique tape core clicked with me more than ever before. So, while the XY might be TE‘s best product yet, my heart‘s with the field. So, I won‘t sell, and won‘t purchase.
OP-1 remains my 1 and only :D
Me too
I just found a super cheap OPZ and paired it with the field, sequencing with Bluetooth midi is fun. One thing I wish they would add is more sample engines like a granular synth or something
Ooh yeah all good points!
ideas are priceless, inspiration is priceless, but when you take it to the brewery don't spill beer on it! :)
Haha I’m so so careful lol. Lots of times they’re not on the same surface so I can avoid that risk lol.
The OP-1 cost what it cost, in hardware and software development. If someone says its expensive for what it is, then there needs to be an equivalent that exist at a much lower cost in the market.
But there isn't, so its only an expense to someone that can't afford it. If you own this for 10 years then sell it for 30-40% of what you paid for it (1,999 + tax) you are paying $170 per year to lease it.
People pay more than $14 a month to lease a smartphone. So yeah, the OP-1 is one of the cheapest electronic gadget that you can own.
Exactly! It's really not that bad, especially when factoring in resale. Honestly that's partly why I don't mind buying anything in the music gear space. I take such good care of my things that I'm always able to sell pieces on after trying them out and I barely lose anything - especially if you're able to get a good deal or buy during a sale. Most music gear really holds its value.
It's interesting that nobody sets out to clone the op-1. It seems completely doable from a software standpoint to reproduce the strict tape emulation workflow, but no other company wants to adopt the inherent limitations that come with tape. It makes sense, because on paper devices like the MPC One are strictly superior from the production angle. I just think tape has a fun factor that makes op-1 uniquely enjoyable to use
@@orrin-manning Agree on both accounts!
Breaking it down to “leasing” and monthly payments is hilarious. 😆
@@Me-ne5uu lol it is kinda funny but if you think about it, you're pretty safe to try out anything in the music gear space without much risk - the most risk I've faced is buying something expensive and then realizing you can't live without it haha - and then you own it for real 😅
I’m going to have a big purge of gear I’m not using to fund an OP-XY. I love the OP-1F and the OP-Z is my favorite midi sequencer of all time.
Not gonna lie, I'm about to do the same I think! I plan to keep both for a while and see how I feel after using them side by side for a year or so maybe and then go from there. I picture making beats on the XY and then live jamming on top with the OP-1 - maybe - probably haha.
OP-XY SPOTTED!
Haha it’s so timely! Gah I’m just getting the hang of the OP-1F 😅
I sold my OP-1 primarily due to the lack of DIN MIDI. Then I heard about the OP-1 Field, and still no DIN... this machine would be so much more attractive with 2 MIDI ports
or just an IN would have done it for me
Totally! It's really hard to believe they didn't add that. I think partly due to this issue I'm always going to just sample the OP into something else - which I'm liking ok so far, but there are so many reasons why having midi on board would helpful/useful. Oh wellll.
@@Duskmos indeed. Different work flow for different folks. Great content as always!
@@Gummo22 Thank you! Going to be putting out a bit more varied content in the new year, looking forward to seeing where that takes the channel - keeps things interesting for me too =)
Does it not have TRS MIDI?
struggling to decide if i should sell my op-1 field for the xy … somebody help me lmao
Haha oh man - I’ll let you know what I think after I get a few weeks into mine! ;)
The og OP-1 was the most I’ve connected with an instrument, and the most productive I’ve been…. But the lack of undo, unwanted noise, and reliability made me get rid of it. Had my screen go out, cost $200 and it was gone for 3 months.
But man I want the new field, just worried about the reliability still.
Mannn I feel your pain on the lack of UNDO, I've definitely been burned by that too many times. This one is missing the noise issues for sure, which some consider a drawback haha. I think I'm happy with what I've got since adding noise is a lot easier than removing haha. Reliability wise I've been good so far, knock on wood. Being out of service for 3 months sucks though, one would hope they're better at that sort of thing now and/or the screens are more reliable - preferably both haha.
Reliability and support are the only reason I don't commit to an OP1f. I briefly owned one and really loved it, but it seemed less durable than the original OP1. I could afford to buy one but not replace one if it broke and TE isn't known for having good support unfortunately.
@@james.tupper Interesting that it seemed less durable to you - why was that? I've never owned an OG so I'm genuinely curious what areas feel downgraded
@@Duskmos The main reason is that the keys are raised above the edge of the device and it's easier for them to get caught on something. The keys are seemingly a bit thinner and the switches feel more delicate (that part could be my imagination, but the OG just feels a bit more robust). Additionally, because it's made of anodized aluminum, it's more scratch prone than the OG which has a pretty durable hard painted coating.
Don't get me wrong, it feels nice and premium, but it feels more like a piece of jewelry that you have to be careful with rather than a fun tool you can just toss into a bag. I'm sure the price has a lot to do with that.
Aside from that, it's a pretty amazing instrument and I'd still love to own one if I can get it at the right price.
YESSSSSS
Is one of the touted 100 differences the price tag? Sorry you didn't get along with the very capable M8, I guess it's a completely different mindset.
1000% different way of working. I did an extensive video on that too, and while I think it’s amazing for what it is, the M8 is just def not for me. I wanted to love it though haha.
Hated what this stood for for years. Was very bigoted by the online personae TE puts out. Then tried one...😢 Wished I had sooner. Learnt my lesson. As someone who adores working on huge clunking vintage analog stuff this thing was a revelation
It really is magical with what all it can do in such a compact package! Definitely impressed.
Not enough people talking about how the OP-1 sequencers are a joke. I could get around to the tape workflow if the sequencers were more robust and flexible so I knew what I was going to record in was just the right thing.
The sequencers are a bit of a weak point for sure. I like the creative looseness which matches the tape workflow in my mind, but for laying down a beat it’s not super ideal for sure. I’m glad at least the recorder starts when you hold down a key - that’s something. I’m excited to see how well the OP-XY “rights these wrongs” 🤞
So obvious the elephant in the room is the price, otherwise no one would think twice or complain and just buy it. But why is price so sensitive a topic? It’s because TE is actually asking too little for the op-1f. But that’s crazy, right? Everyone talks about how it’s too expensive. Well, no. You see the OP-1F is not really a serious music making device (ducks head). What I mean is, it eschews all the industry standard I/O and common sense features (undo??) and deep parameter tweaking and even standard names for things that are expected in high-quality studio or even portable equipment. It is a luxury item priced at an enthusiast price point, not a luxury price point. IMO it should be at least $5000 to indicate and signal that this is not an aspirational buy for the serious middle class hobbyist; it’s a toy for the wealthy for whom price isn’t a concern at all. It’s a Birkin Bag or Rolex; a Ferrari or a Park Ave condo. People don’t spend hours and days griping at the insane prices for clothing. They just accept that that clothing isn’t for them. The issue here is that the OP-1F is marketed as simply a music sketchpad and not a premium toy. It’s not separated by a TE Pro brand or something, like Toyota and Lexus; it’s merely another product from the same company that made POs and other reasonably priced music gadgets. TE’s branding is way off and confusing and the pricing for this is wrong and so you get outrage and lots of hot takes since people who thought TE was democratizing making music have to realize the hard way that they aren’t and that the fact people can’t afford their stuff just doesn’t bother them. The passion people of all wealth levels have for the TE products they love is met with the realization that their coolest and best thing yet is being gatekept by a price that is juuust high enough to make the opportunity cost sting for everyone but those with deep pockets. I mean, in their defense they don’t call themselves Socially-Conscious Adult Engineering…
I agree on many points! Price is so personal it’s definitely hard to say from one person to the next, though I think they’ll always be taking flack for pricing - and yet always still sell tons of products. All the pricing drama is free press too, so hey, whatever keeps them around I’m happy for haha 😆
It sounds like the bottom of the line is just saying that poor people can’t afford it and if you’re poor, don’t get it stick to what you can afford. It’s a little messed up but bottom line summed out that’s what you’re saying in my opinion and remember, it’s just my opinion..
Not at all! There are options for everyone. I think this one happens to be expensive, but I don’t think it’s too expensive *for what it is*. Gold is expensive but it’s gold, but you don’t have to buy gold - nothing else is going to be gold, but do you need gold? Can you afford gold? I’m def not saying poor people can’t afford it, although if someone is truly poor, they should probably prioritize other purchases. I’m just saying that if someone can’t afford a thing, does that mean it’s overpriced? No, I think it just becomes not an option for said person. I want a Ferrari F40, it’s millions of dollars, can I afford it? No. Should I buy one anyway? No. Is it worth that kind of money? Apparently, to some, but I’m not going to sit here and say it’s too expensive. It just is what it is and to me, that’s ok. 👍
@Duskmos gold and the op-z1 Field are two different things I don't see to comparison and that at all I mean you can't make music with gold. And not to mention I believe gold is a luxury item. There's other technology out there that does the same thing that that does and maybe more for lots less so I really can't see where it should be that price I think it's a little bit of pocket gouging and the more we keep making excuses for companies to overprice things like that the more they'll do it because we just simply stand aside and say oh that's okay Even though we know it's way too expensive for what it is.
@MrAkkamne It’s an analogy - you can use other metals, you can use other tools - other metals are good, other tools are good, different expense but similar outcomes, etc.
Too expensive.
It does have a high price tag but it does almost everything - so there’s not really any competitors doing exactly what this does. You can spend $10,000 on a rack mount EQ if you want to. For what all the OP-1 crams in, I’d argue it’s actually a good value, but I hear you.