It looks very nice, clean and straightforward The manual says this about models: • DMG (Digital compressor) • E-channel (British console channel compressor) • G-bus (British console bus compressor) • 76D (Revision D FET compressor) • 2A (1960s valve and opto compressor) • 76A (Revision A FET compressor) • 160 (Early RMS/VCA compressor) • Zener (Zener-diode bridge compressor) • 2k5 (American bus compressor)
Bro this dude is the only honest plugin reviewer I have found on you tube everyone else is basically selling them with their codes. Please do more reviews I love Plugins but don't want to waste money.
According to the manual the makeup gain emulates the actual makeup gain from the hardware and the output is digital out, which is awesome as nearly no emulations do that.
DMG's stuff is all top-notch. Probably the most underrated plugin company. This one, like them all, is a real winner. EVERY plugin (or DAW) should have an export setting for the oversampling! I can't even calculate how much time I spend before a render turning oversampling on. And if you forgot to save a copy of your file with the very last little tweak you made, you get to put them all back by hand. That's the one menial task I haven't been able to figure out how to get REAPER to do for me - yet.
Imo one of the best soft multi compressor systems ever made in software form. A distressor model would be very nice done day day. Trackcomp has a bit steeper learning curve but it's very rewarding. You can override the original units settings. The models sound different and the tweaking options make them unique. It has a Zener! The different distortion modes sound great. You can use this as a distortion box also if you want. The Opto still has an unpleasant behavoir (vokume boost) at the initial first played transient, they seem to have taken that over from the hardware what I do not understand. 1A coding from DMG
DMG's Equilibrium is also legendary. It's the only EQ that gives you the accurate analog curves without cramping. Has the Neve 88RS curve which is easily my favorite EQ in the world. These people at DMG really know their stuff.
Hey, Here's a solid example of someone who did it right: Kush Audio their plugins are absolutely amazing. Elektra EQ, you will love the interface on it, 100% UBK-1 - amazing groovy compressor, made for automating and adding vibe Hammer DSP - really good EQ they sound amazing. their plugin bundle is great, and they even have their own youtube channel, check out those videos if you have time. :)
The output uses clean gain. The makeup adds in the harmonics you would get from the compressors. I love this plugin and use it in every project I work on, and that's a lot of projects!
It’s depends tbh... most skeuomorphism interfaces are at its shit. D16 and SSL did it right in my opinion. SSL specifically is clean and though pleasing eyes.
So dang impressed with this plugin They actually went to extreme lengths to model all the circuits, but they also give you parameters beyond The little red lines indicated on the threshold, attack and release are the approximate hardware limits of the modeled units If you hold alt while moving a slider you'll snap to the hardware settings only.
I have all dmg plugins but compassion is my favourite compressor and I have heard good news about this vst in reviews from masters like you man. Tnx for all your efforts for promoting us as Producers Sincerely Kambiz from Iran
Not everyone is obsessed with replicating 76s and 2As. This unit looks solid, and is very tweakable. Is it better than other current digital compressor offerings? There is so much available now!
64bit floating point and zero quantization noise (only Sonnox and Acustica Audio do the same). But you might pay more for the 32bit floating point fabfilter stuff and stay happy with it. My choices are algorithms and math over fancy useless user interface.
23:59 We don't need the manual 00:00 Makeup and output? What's the difference? What's Q Bias? 😂😂 Jk, Nice review. Wish all Plugin Alliance products had interfaces like this, at least as an optional for those who don't need knobs and screws
@@Astronometric From their manual: "It’s worth mentioning that if a circuit has asymmetric distortion (the 76D and 2A for instance), you can often see some DC generated in your output; this will be largely filtered out in the design of the circuit, but it may be unexpected. You can use the Output gain instead of Makeup to get clean gain."
0e0 no I relented for 2.0. It’s factory spec out of the box. That said, factory spec is still a window of a few degrees on the trimmer so you might still need to nudge it slightly to line it up with a specific unit.
Correction on the La-2a, the brightness would be the screw on the front or back of some models aka the pre-emphasis and the response is actually the different types of opto cells that different La-2a's can use which have the attack and release settings 😊
The brightness is a variable capacitor in the output stage. I recommend not adjusting this whilst the unit is powered up. The Response is sort of vaguely a high shelf in the side chain and is the preemphasis pot as you describe.
The autogain delay is a drag, but it MUST be done this way to be accurate. It cannot be done accurately as an instant relation to the threshold setting, because if your audio input is low you might only be compressing 3 dB, but if the audio level is higher, you might be compressing 10dB. The plugin, i believe, samples the ACTUAL gain reduction that's happening for a couple seconds, and then applies the correct amount of makeup gain. For me.... most auto gain features over-compensate with a louder output, and make you think you are really improving the sound, when it's just louder. Looks like a nice compressor!!
Though it's more work, why not use a gain plugin after it and adjust that instead? Also, I've seen those autogain things be inaccurate in other plugins.
You should also try their top of the line compressor called Compassion! I think they wrote something about that Trackcomp was made with presets from Compassion or something like that. Compassion is probably the most advanced and customizable compressor there is! Pls check it out :)
@root I haven’t tried Newfangled’s limiter yet, but I just grabbed their clipper plugin from that line (Saturate) and it’s fantastic sounding. Color is actual kinda subtle, not too aggressive sounding (though you can make it nasty if you want), and adds a ton of RMS if you need it. I’m still happy using Oxford or Ozone for my limiting but they’re on my radar now
The Q bias should be the bias of the FETs in the compressor. They have made a great emulation by shoving the schematics in SPICE and emulating it that way. The extra controls are just a things they've added that sound interesting when changed (for example changing a resistor or a capacitor in a circuit etc)
Nice plugin and demo, but would have been better if dry track didn't already have heavy ducking/pumping/compression, because I couldn't hear a distinction between what you were adding versus what was already there.
I only just got this. And, I wonder, if I started again, for mixing with the included models, I might have just bought this, and not other comps from UAD, Softube & Kiive. TrackLimit is my goto now too. I think I prefer DMGs modern non-'skewmorphic' designs to many other plugin manufacturers that try to mimic the look of an analogue compressor. Especially in a digital plugin to be used with a mouse, keyboard or maybe a controller. With the right skills and monitoring environment, you could do a hell of a lot of professional mixing for £300 with Reaper, DMG TrackComp2, DMG TrackLimit, a TDR bundle, a saturator/clipper and maybe a Valhalla reverb or two.
DMG also has Compassion which is another compressor that has A HELL OF A LOT of settings in the advanced tab. On the face of it, its a pretty standard looking compressor, then you click 'Advanced' and it drops you into a world of pain! Literally 30 or so options to tweak. The tag-line and manual actually says 'The only compressor you'll ever need' because it can become anything you want it to be. What I want to know is - Is this thing just emulating the attack and release curves - which in analogue are not simple curves or straight lines, but can be weird wobbly shapes too. OR does it ALSO emulate the distortion of the console? That's all I care about. I've been using a console channel emulation on all of my tracks recently in an attempt to get more analogue and glue to all of my tracks. DMG Audio manual says this about Q-Bias: TrackComp : Models : 2A Every FET is different, so units get calibrated. The Q Bias is a little adjuster tweaked with a screwdriver that’s set up to compensate for the FET. At -5% the unit will behave more politely. At 5%, the unit is more aggressive. The default is 0%, but you may find a lower setting more comfortable if you’re used to the behaviour of software emulations.
U He Presswerks.....is really good as well....just harder to use....but.....this....Klanghem DC8, and Fab compressors....more than likely....the best bangs for the buck....at the end of the day....the better your make your mix....more freedom you have sound coloring on the mixbus....when mastering
@@oOFTJOo Look, that's a pointless discussion. And each and every reason is ridiculed by the fact, that people like what they like. You can't debate taste. And please, don't try to lecture people about the most obvious things. As if you found out why a hardware unit has knobs and faders. All of us know that. I simply prefer to look at other GUIs. And the simple reason why so many people use analog looking plugins is simply. that they can't afford the real stuff or haven't got the space or, enough ins and outs, etc.
@@peterbrandt7911 I prefer the analog-looking interfaces too. I'm just a pretty visual guy (being an enthusiatic gamer also) when it comes to that. Looking at a beautiful interface just means more fun working with a plugin for me, thus it's a workflow and motivation thing, too. Interface like this one just seem so sterile and boring. However, sound always comes first obviously, and this compressor seems to do a good job.
Orlando Pergamo you are so clueless! What makes you an expert to dictate what's making sense or not? And is it to hard for you to understand that when u emulate a piece of gear that people are familiar with, it's also understandable that people know intuitively which buttons does what? Sounds to me like you're just posting without thinking thru what you're actually saying... 🤦🏻😂
Orlando Pergamo I also just have to comment on your last sentence in your post referring to your picture analogy; why do we many boys have pictures of hot babes on their walls, or why do people have a picture of their girlfriend in their wallet?? Kinda makes your point stupid.. Right? Lol 😆 😂😂😂🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
i love tack comp, and dmg audio. if it wasnt for dmg audio, id have more fabfilter plugins. i dont mean it as a knock on fabfilter, but back in the day the offer dmg audio had for equick, equality, and compassion mad more sense to me than and was cheaper than pro-q, pro-l, and pro-c (which i didnt like very much). also if you already own dmg audio products, you will a discount on future dmg audio purchases.
1:20 Speak for yourself. It may be what you want, but it's not what i want. I like the hardware interfaces. It makes mixing more enjoyable for me. It feels good
Trackcomp is circuit modelled (Spice)... the interesting question is of course how the models compare to the real hardware or some well known emulations? For the LA2A there are dozens of emulations but how does Trackcomp 2 compare to this?
I haven't read the manual. Does the make up gain get to clip within the plug in and give the sound of the compressor it's emulating when clipping? Idk, anyway, the way it mixed the og parameters with some perks of it being digital looks good
Please do another DMG review. Limitless or Essence or Expurgate or? (I'm considering them. They offer a free bus console plugin TrackControl. The confusing thing is that from their history I can't make heads or tails for what products are the most up-to-date and how each product compares: I made a list to look at this - and I'm still not totally sure what I'm looking at: Compassion (fully featured dynamics processor ), Dualism (Swiss Army Knife of Stereo Tools), EQuality ( The final go to EQ), EQuick (streamlined ultramodern EQ ), EQuilibrium (Includes algos for both old and new EQ types ), Essence (D-Esser, De-Esser ), Expurgate ( state of the art gating and expansion), Limitless (the new art of limiting ), Multiplicity (Multiband compression, expansion, gating, dynamic EQ ), PitchFunk (Refined Design, Monstrous Effects - (distortion-saturation ), TrackComp 2 (Nine Compressors spanning the history of pro-audio. ), TrackControl (All the utilities from the top and bottom of a console channel.(free with a DMG account ), TrackDS (intelligent De-Esser, D-Esser ), TrackGate (TrackGate is a real replacement for console and outboard gate/expanders. ), TrackLimit (wideband limiter with intelligent dual-stage handling of transients and dynamics ), TrackMeter (A set of freely resizable graphs covering every studio use-case we've ever heard of.)
Take away the...unfortunate choice of program material to use for this plug in, after demoing it, I think the Zener mode is rather nice. The rest of the stuff is useful but I have 1176s, LA-2As, 2500s, SSLs... so can't see my self spending cash on this. If I didn't have the aforementioned, it would have been a different story. Also, this is the best interface on a plug in compressor I have personally ever used...especially since it saves time typing release values, that are BPM related.
composers like skeumorphism because it is inspiring to look at, engineers dislike skeumorphism because they already know what they want and the interface becomes a barrier
i just started watching and wonder already if you will know what the orange bars at the attack and release sliders do without reading the manual. (if you select an emulation, the area inside the orange bars is the one represented in the actual hardware but you can damage and distorting sound on purpose by ignoring it. now im curious to watch :)) Edit: To add a Quote from Dave Gamble (the DMG Audio developer) "Those red bars on the attack and release sliders. Do not exceed them if you want it to sound good." ;^)
@@Whiteseastudio yes thats true. The clearest information are in the Trackcomp and Trackcomp2 release threads on gearslutz. Also for the 76 to sound as most devices used in the studios the bias has to be adjusted to ~ -3% (default setting is (or used to be) bad on delivery which is the starting point of the emu too. To quote Dave "This is a small (but very important) trimmer on the circuit board that gets adjusted with a screwdriver. " Also heres an overview information which stages distrot and how to drive them. Trackcomp is great but you profit a lot getting all infos: www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php?p=14349320&postcount=57 Loved the video though !! Cheers
Indeed. It’s been a thorny question of balance over how bright the bars should be. I’ve come to think they should start out bright and fade over time. ;)
I’d assume q bias is probably controlling the amount of priority to peaks of incoming frequency ranges. Could be completely wrong but that’s kind of what it sounded like it was doing.
It's a trim pot that gets set during the factory calibration procedure. It's generally not set very accurately, so there's a bit of adjustability on the plugin so you can line the plugin up with any specific unit you have around. More specifically it's setting the FET bias voltage, so it's altering threshold, ratio and distortion all together.
Seems to be the first compressor plugin for you letting you tweak att, rel and ratio. Well, it's not the only one! Some have even a tweakable hp filter. Pretty strange that a mixing engineer needs visual feedback
I think the output is clean with no added analog emulation to the unit while makeup uses the analog emulated output at least that's what I remember it said. i read the manual like forever ago.
nothing wrong with fabfilter. i still have and use pro-mb, and pro-l. i admire them because their products are easy to use for cavemen like me. i wish i could say the same about compassion when i bought it years ago (and couple of their other products)... but im getting the hang of it little by little... sooner or later ill be "qualified" to use compassion. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm on a 'compressor fast' as I have way too many - still if I was wanting one this could be a great choice! (I'm still debating whether or not to get the basic version of Reason for using the plugins in Logic... or get the ART stereo physical unit, which I don't have room for! I'm filling my c**p quota for today ;-) )
Does anyone else have this problem where the demo loads but does nothing? It just sits there and does nothing regardless of what I do to it. Never seen this happen before.
"We don't want the analogue interface" you mean, you don't want the analogue interface? I come on here every so often and enjoy your videos but i get a little tired of you going on about how "analogue" style interfaces are not needed. I think you will find Luddites like myself who are used to and Use a lot of old classic analogue hardware quite welcome's interfaces that resemble the unit's i'm used to. To each his own i say. Some daws allow you to turn off the interfaces and just use their digital sliders if that what people want to do.That being said. I like this plugin
Are you watching reviews of someone who has a bias against analogue interfaces and then expecting him to not criticise analogue interfaces? Its something you'll have to deal with, and if you cant you'll have to find to someone else to watch.
@@MrThaffy I Never said "I couldn't deal with it." Never said I was "expecting him to not criticise analogue interfaces", I was Just making an observation based on a considered opposite point of view, but thanks for your valuable advice. AS i said in my post "to each his own" Have a nice day.
I actually prefer the "analog" looking interface with onscreen knobs and VU meters. Yes, it's technically unnecessary, and all that's needed are sliders and numbers, but I think it's the familiarity of the analog look of plugins that makes people feel more comfortable with using them. I do agree, though, that every plugin should have a switch that toggles the interface between the traditional analog look and something more of how the plugin looks in this video. Great work btw. Always awesome content here!
All the compressors modes have been COPIED FROM REAL HARDWARE BY USING SPICE TECHNOLOGY (as i remember), all the components stuff faithfully modelled, as Dave Gamble from DMG stated. And also, read manual and gearslutz thread to get way much more info
It makes sense now why you consistently highlight plugin makers should not use a phony UI, or at least give you an advance version to make changes based on logical visual settings, instead of hardware design.
I understand why you don't like "fake" looking plugins that imitate analog gear, but here's another view. Many of us are not just engineers. Many of us are songwriters & performers. And like members of the Beatles and Ron Wood and Peter Gabriel, we're also visual fans and artists of a sort. Why does. a kid like music to begin with? It's often visual. From the Beatles haircuts to Michael Jackson music videos to Billie Eilish's finger nails or Lady Gaga's crazy outfits. Visuals. Matter. Now this doesn't mean you have to knock off fake rack mount equipment, but lots of that old gear was really beautifully designed. From Vox amps to Joe Meek compressors. Distressors. LA2A. etc. Those of us who were able to record on tape in real studios fell in love with those looks. so having that look on our screen is a sense of comfort. But even if you aren't in love with vintage style, it still has to be well designed. Functional yes. When you complain of lack of resize or waste of screen space I'm with you. But I find this plug in ugly. It doesn't inspire me to move it's sliders. There are some modern plug ins that are well designed. Valhalla for instance. Simple & functional yet elegant. This plugin isn't elegant. And what you look at for hours matters. It effects your art. Look at plugins like Freakshow Industries that sort of make fun of the retro thing but really get creative with design. It's gotta feel creative. If it feels like some programming language with no style or color, I'm gonna' have a hard time getting inspired by it even if it sounds great.. Rock AND roll! Ying & yang. Visual & audio. Excite all my senses please! Just my opinion.
I prefer software to be functional and easy to use first. I agree with Wytse, a good plugin UI needs to be made for a mouse and keyboard. I don’t think this plugin looks ugly per se, I think it looks good enough. I often use software that is far form inspirational and ugly as hell in my day job as a structural / building engineer. Software that doesn’t always do what I want it to do. Autodesk products in particular are the worst and kill all inspiration due to how poorly designed their stuff is. I have wasted a lot of time trying to model a non-planar geometry in Revit only to find out that the software is fighting the user. Same thing with audio software, I want it to be easy to use and efficient in operation. For me knobs have no use with a mouse and keyboard, then you might as well use the real thing instead. I find it always a pain to turn those knobs with a mouse where a slider would work much better. For me beautiful software and equipment follows the function over form principle. A bit like Bauhaus architecture in a way. No decorative frills, just pure function. My favorite DAW’s follow that principle and the inspiration comes naturally because a good piece of software is joy to use and bad UI can kill inspiration caused by frustrating the user. Autodesk Revit brings me to tears some times, Korg gadget makes me happy.
dykodesigns2yt I hear you. To each his own. And of course function needs to come BEFORE form. But I’m just pointing out to you & Wytse why some of us don’t mind the retro style. A smart plugin company would have different skins that the user can pick. Maybe even switching from knobs to sliders. I bet there’s some out there, but I bet they can get expensive for a small company. I actually like the new Logic Pro standard plugins. It’s a nice mix of old & new. The compressors have a semi-retro look but they don’t go crazy with it. While the reverb’s look more like Fab Filter. But with some really good graphic representation of what the delay & echo are actually doing to your signal. Very intuitive, which Apple is great at when they’re on their game. (I have this GUI fight with my programmer brother. Not just music softest. He’s a Unix / Windows guy. I’m 100% Mac. Always have been. Why? It. Looks. Better.)
It's probably also a taste thing. I absolutely hate skeuomorphic designs, I find them ugly as hell. In the end it's all about usability though, it's about having a user interface that easily guides you into the right direction. Emulating the look of a hardware unit does not allow that. Skeumorphism has been dead since like... 2012 maybe? And that's for a reason. Have you never noticed that basically every software that actual graphics people use looks rather flat and minimalistic? I've never heard complaints from them that their software looks "uninspiring" or other stuff you often hear musicians say. I've never heard anyone say excel looks to uninspiring to do some tables. Imagine the on-screen keyboard on your iPhone emulating the look of a typewriter. It's absurd. This kinda shit you only find in audio.
It looks very nice, clean and straightforward
The manual says this about models:
• DMG (Digital compressor)
• E-channel (British console channel compressor)
• G-bus (British console bus compressor)
• 76D (Revision D FET compressor)
• 2A (1960s valve and opto compressor)
• 76A (Revision A FET compressor)
• 160 (Early RMS/VCA compressor)
• Zener (Zener-diode bridge compressor)
• 2k5 (American bus compressor)
White Sea Studio doesn't read the manuals! :D
Bro this dude is the only honest plugin reviewer I have found on you tube everyone else is basically selling them with their codes. Please do more reviews I love Plugins but don't want to waste money.
According to the manual the makeup gain emulates the actual makeup gain from the hardware and the output is digital out, which is awesome as nearly no emulations do that.
Instablaster.
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DMG's stuff is all top-notch. Probably the most underrated plugin company. This one, like them all, is a real winner. EVERY plugin (or DAW) should have an export setting for the oversampling! I can't even calculate how much time I spend before a render turning oversampling on. And if you forgot to save a copy of your file with the very last little tweak you made, you get to put them all back by hand. That's the one menial task I haven't been able to figure out how to get REAPER to do for me - yet.
YUP!
Imo one of the best soft multi compressor systems ever made in software form. A distressor model would be very nice done day day. Trackcomp has a bit steeper learning curve but it's very rewarding. You can override the original units settings. The models sound different and the tweaking options make them unique. It has a Zener! The different distortion modes sound great. You can use this as a distortion box also if you want.
The Opto still has an unpleasant behavoir (vokume boost) at the initial first played transient, they seem to have taken that over from the hardware what I do not understand. 1A coding from DMG
DMG's Equilibrium is also legendary. It's the only EQ that gives you the accurate analog curves without cramping. Has the Neve 88RS curve which is easily my favorite EQ in the world. These people at DMG really know their stuff.
Hey,
Here's a solid example of someone who did it right:
Kush Audio
their plugins are absolutely amazing. Elektra EQ, you will love the interface on it, 100%
UBK-1 - amazing groovy compressor, made for automating and adding vibe
Hammer DSP - really good EQ
they sound amazing. their plugin bundle is great, and they even have their own youtube channel, check out those videos if you have time. :)
Yeah Kush audio is fantastic but TrackComp is likely the most accurately modelled compressors of the emulations included.
The output uses clean gain. The makeup adds in the harmonics you would get from the compressors. I love this plugin and use it in every project I work on, and that's a lot of projects!
We don't want the analog interface WE WANT THE DIGITAL INTERFACE!! (loses digital mouse connectivity)
It was no coincidence.
Alex Soundrise 😂😂😂😂😂 right on cue
It’s depends tbh... most skeuomorphism interfaces are at its shit. D16 and SSL did it right in my opinion. SSL specifically is clean and though pleasing eyes.
Exactly
The ADHD leveler
This is best Mix and Masterbus Comp in Hands down because its so surgical......
So dang impressed with this plugin
They actually went to extreme lengths to model all the circuits, but they also give you parameters beyond
The little red lines indicated on the threshold, attack and release are the approximate hardware limits of the modeled units
If you hold alt while moving a slider you'll snap to the hardware settings only.
I have all dmg plugins but compassion is my favourite compressor and I have heard good news about this vst in reviews from masters like you man.
Tnx for all your efforts for promoting us as Producers
Sincerely Kambiz from Iran
Its a super compressor !! I wish they copy Distressor and Neve 2254 too in Trackcomp 3
Would like to hear how the different styles of compressor stack up against the UAD counterparts...
it's harder to hear when the song is already pumping. Makes it sound like the compressor is pumping
Facts
Not everyone is obsessed with replicating 76s and 2As. This unit looks solid, and is very tweakable. Is it better than other current digital compressor offerings? There is so much available now!
64bit floating point and zero quantization noise (only Sonnox and Acustica Audio do the same). But you might pay more for the 32bit floating point fabfilter stuff and stay happy with it. My choices are algorithms and math over fancy useless user interface.
23:59 We don't need the manual
00:00 Makeup and output? What's the difference? What's Q Bias?
😂😂 Jk, Nice review. Wish all Plugin Alliance products had interfaces like this, at least as an optional for those who don't need knobs and screws
Just a guess: Output is a linear volume control and make-up emulates the output transformer in the original hardware.
@@Astronometric From their manual: "It’s worth mentioning that if a circuit has asymmetric distortion (the 76D and 2A for
instance), you can often see some DC generated in your output; this will be largely filtered out in
the design of the circuit, but it may be unexpected. You can use the Output gain instead of Makeup
to get clean gain."
q-bias is a calibration in the FET.. -5 would be factory spec..the dmg people prefer 0 for their tastes...
0e0 no I relented for 2.0. It’s factory spec out of the box. That said, factory spec is still a window of a few degrees on the trimmer so you might still need to nudge it slightly to line it up with a specific unit.
@@davegamble1694 oh thanks for the clarification. is that both for the D and A? so q-bias at 0 for both models is factory spec
All their stuff looks good. Expensive, but good. Definitely the last plugins I'll ever buy. Ha ha. Definitely.
Correction on the La-2a, the brightness would be the screw on the front or back of some models aka the pre-emphasis and the response is actually the different types of opto cells that different La-2a's can use which have the attack and release settings 😊
The brightness is a variable capacitor in the output stage. I recommend not adjusting this whilst the unit is powered up. The Response is sort of vaguely a high shelf in the side chain and is the preemphasis pot as you describe.
Dave has a yt channel where explains how he modelled different compressor using Pspice emulation.
Jay Jain a channel?? Another channel??
@@oledahl. i meant Dave Gamble. The creator behind DMG Audio. He shows behind the screen work.
The autogain delay is a drag, but it MUST be done this way to be accurate. It cannot be done accurately as an instant relation to the threshold setting, because if your audio input is low you might only be compressing 3 dB, but if the audio level is higher, you might be compressing 10dB. The plugin, i believe, samples the ACTUAL gain reduction that's happening for a couple seconds, and then applies the correct amount of makeup gain. For me.... most auto gain features over-compensate with a louder output, and make you think you are really improving the sound, when it's just louder. Looks like a nice compressor!!
Though it's more work, why not use a gain plugin after it and adjust that instead? Also, I've seen those autogain things be inaccurate in other plugins.
You should also try their top of the line compressor called Compassion! I think they wrote something about that Trackcomp was made with presets from Compassion or something like that. Compassion is probably the most advanced and customizable compressor there is! Pls check it out :)
Thing is, DMG also happen to have made the best limiter in recent history. Wanna give it a try?
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What a coincidence! They also have one of the best eqs in recent history ♥️
@Sub Zero It's worse than that. Several big things.
@root I haven’t tried Newfangled’s limiter yet, but I just grabbed their clipper plugin from that line (Saturate) and it’s fantastic sounding. Color is actual kinda subtle, not too aggressive sounding (though you can make it nasty if you want), and adds a ton of RMS if you need it. I’m still happy using Oxford or Ozone for my limiting but they’re on my radar now
i thought limitless was the best until i tried elevate
as usually you help us to find right plugins thanks 🙏 my bro .
Definitely need to check this one..
The Q bias should be the bias of the FETs in the compressor. They have made a great emulation by shoving the schematics in SPICE and emulating it that way. The extra controls are just a things they've added that sound interesting when changed (for example changing a resistor or a capacitor in a circuit etc)
Again, that's just a wild guess but from what I've seen on their site it seems like they did just that. Sounds amazing nevertheless
Nice plugin and demo, but would have been better if dry track didn't already have heavy ducking/pumping/compression, because I couldn't hear a distinction between what you were adding versus what was already there.
Perfect timing!! I've just been playing around with this one :)
Also next versions may include this models (according to Dave's words) :
- 33609
- RED3
- 670
- LA3A
- Sta-level
I only just got this. And, I wonder, if I started again, for mixing with the included models, I might have just bought this, and not other comps from UAD, Softube & Kiive. TrackLimit is my goto now too. I think I prefer DMGs modern non-'skewmorphic' designs to many other plugin manufacturers that try to mimic the look of an analogue compressor. Especially in a digital plugin to be used with a mouse, keyboard or maybe a controller. With the right skills and monitoring environment, you could do a hell of a lot of professional mixing for £300 with Reaper, DMG TrackComp2, DMG TrackLimit, a TDR bundle, a saturator/clipper and maybe a Valhalla reverb or two.
Read the manual! Qbias is a knob on the real hardware to calibrate the fet. You turn that with a screwdriver. My wa76 has is on the rearside.
DMG also has Compassion which is another compressor that has A HELL OF A LOT of settings in the advanced tab. On the face of it, its a pretty standard looking compressor, then you click 'Advanced' and it drops you into a world of pain! Literally 30 or so options to tweak. The tag-line and manual actually says 'The only compressor you'll ever need' because it can become anything you want it to be.
What I want to know is - Is this thing just emulating the attack and release curves - which in analogue are not simple curves or straight lines, but can be weird wobbly shapes too.
OR does it ALSO emulate the distortion of the console? That's all I care about. I've been using a console channel emulation on all of my tracks recently in an attempt to get more analogue and glue to all of my tracks.
DMG Audio manual says this about Q-Bias:
TrackComp : Models : 2A
Every FET is different, so units get calibrated. The Q Bias is a little adjuster tweaked with a
screwdriver that’s set up to compensate for the FET. At -5% the unit will behave more politely. At
5%, the unit is more aggressive. The default is 0%, but you may find a lower setting more
comfortable if you’re used to the behaviour of software emulations.
I would REALLY like to know what camera are you using to make your videos? (it looks really nice and clear, natural and balanced). thank you
my fave compressor...i think if you have this you don't need anything else other than a modern mastering limiter.
This is hands down the best all in one Compressor
U He Presswerks.....is really good as well....just harder to use....but.....this....Klanghem DC8, and Fab compressors....more than likely....the best bangs for the buck....at the end of the day....the better your make your mix....more freedom you have sound coloring on the mixbus....when mastering
I like analog looking interfaces, there's still no right or wrong on this :).
@@oOFTJOo Look, that's a pointless discussion. And each and every reason is ridiculed by the fact, that people like what they like. You can't debate taste.
And please, don't try to lecture people about the most obvious things. As if you found out why a hardware unit has knobs and faders. All of us know that.
I simply prefer to look at other GUIs.
And the simple reason why so many people use analog looking plugins is simply. that they can't afford the real stuff or haven't got the space or, enough ins and outs, etc.
@@peterbrandt7911 I prefer the analog-looking interfaces too. I'm just a pretty visual guy (being an enthusiatic gamer also) when it comes to that. Looking at a beautiful interface just means more fun working with a plugin for me, thus it's a workflow and motivation thing, too. Interface like this one just seem so sterile and boring. However, sound always comes first obviously, and this compressor seems to do a good job.
@@auralsunrays9229 Exactly! And there are enough choices for everyone.
Orlando Pergamo you are so clueless! What makes you an expert to dictate what's making sense or not? And is it to hard for you to understand that when u emulate a piece of gear that people are familiar with, it's also understandable that people know intuitively which buttons does what? Sounds to me like you're just posting without thinking thru what you're actually saying... 🤦🏻😂
Orlando Pergamo I also just have to comment on your last sentence in your post referring to your picture analogy; why do we many boys have pictures of hot babes on their walls, or why do people have a picture of their girlfriend in their wallet?? Kinda makes your point stupid.. Right? Lol 😆 😂😂😂🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
Analogue interfaces all the way for me, although DMG is extremely good stuff it's hard to know at a glance what type of compression you're using
yep
i love tack comp, and dmg audio. if it wasnt for dmg audio, id have more fabfilter plugins. i dont mean it as a knock on fabfilter, but back in the day the offer dmg audio had for equick, equality, and compassion mad more sense to me than and was cheaper than pro-q, pro-l, and pro-c (which i didnt like very much). also if you already own dmg audio products, you will a discount on future dmg audio purchases.
1:20 Speak for yourself. It may be what you want, but it's not what i want. I like the hardware interfaces. It makes mixing more enjoyable for me. It feels good
Same, brother.
The LA2A does an extra knob, it has a emphasis screw. (Mix Analog turned this into an actual full knob btw)
Trackcomp is circuit modelled (Spice)... the interesting question is of course how the models compare to the real hardware or some well known emulations? For the LA2A there are dozens of emulations but how does Trackcomp 2 compare to this?
I haven't read the manual. Does the make up gain get to clip within the plug in and give the sound of the compressor it's emulating when clipping?
Idk, anyway, the way it mixed the og parameters with some perks of it being digital looks good
Please do another DMG review. Limitless or Essence or Expurgate or? (I'm considering them. They offer a free bus console plugin TrackControl. The confusing thing is that from their history I can't make heads or tails for what products are the most up-to-date and how each product compares: I made a list to look at this - and I'm still not totally sure what I'm looking at: Compassion (fully featured dynamics processor ), Dualism (Swiss Army Knife of Stereo Tools), EQuality ( The final go to EQ), EQuick (streamlined ultramodern EQ ), EQuilibrium (Includes algos for both old and new EQ types ), Essence (D-Esser, De-Esser ), Expurgate ( state of the art gating and expansion), Limitless (the new art of limiting ), Multiplicity (Multiband compression, expansion, gating, dynamic EQ ), PitchFunk (Refined Design, Monstrous Effects - (distortion-saturation ), TrackComp 2 (Nine Compressors spanning the history of pro-audio. ), TrackControl (All the utilities from the top and bottom of a console channel.(free with a DMG account ), TrackDS (intelligent De-Esser, D-Esser ), TrackGate (TrackGate is a real replacement for console and outboard gate/expanders. ), TrackLimit (wideband limiter with intelligent dual-stage handling of transients and dynamics ), TrackMeter (A set of freely resizable graphs covering every studio use-case we've ever heard of.)
Take away the...unfortunate choice of program material to use for this plug in, after demoing it, I think the Zener mode is rather nice. The rest of the stuff is useful but I have 1176s, LA-2As, 2500s, SSLs... so can't see my self spending cash on this. If I didn't have the aforementioned, it would have been a different story.
Also, this is the best interface on a plug in compressor I have personally ever used...especially since it saves time typing release values, that are BPM related.
I would have loved if you could actually tell what you think the q bias is doing or why you liked it so well?
You like the futuristic interface, I like the waves interface 😅💖✌️
composers like skeumorphism because it is inspiring to look at, engineers dislike skeumorphism because they already know what they want and the interface becomes a barrier
Please review Klanghelm MJUC or I'm telling Darude also.
God my magic mouse also disconnects and its annoying AF! Do you have the 1st generation or the 2nd rechargable? Curious to know
This is a dope plugin! I like it a LOT!
mannnn....this plugin....is my new goto on EVERYMASTER...their....G Bus...model....wowwww...blows waves and UAD AWWWWWAAYYY...lol
Thier G BUS, 1172 and LA2A blows all over vst comps out the water!!
1176....lol
Some switching between dry and wet signal now and then would be welcome.
Ohhhh, that's quite interesting. Thanks for review!
i just started watching and wonder already if you will know what the orange bars at the attack and release sliders do without reading the manual. (if you select an emulation, the area inside the orange bars is the one represented in the actual hardware but you can damage and distorting sound on purpose by ignoring it. now im curious to watch :)) Edit: To add a Quote from Dave Gamble (the DMG Audio developer) "Those red bars on the attack and release sliders. Do not exceed them if you want it to sound good." ;^)
They should make that clearer in the UI 😅
@@Whiteseastudio yes thats true. The clearest information are in the Trackcomp and Trackcomp2 release threads on gearslutz. Also for the 76 to sound as most devices used in the studios the bias has to be adjusted to ~ -3% (default setting is (or used to be) bad on delivery which is the starting point of the emu too. To quote Dave "This is a small (but very important) trimmer on the circuit board that gets adjusted with a screwdriver. " Also heres an overview information which stages distrot and how to drive them. Trackcomp is great but you profit a lot getting all infos: www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php?p=14349320&postcount=57 Loved the video though !! Cheers
Indeed. It’s been a thorny question of balance over how bright the bars should be. I’ve come to think they should start out bright and fade over time. ;)
@@davegamble1694 great idea xD
usually the difference between makeup and output gain is that one uses the unsaturated signal and one uses the saturated signal
Yeah, it's an emulation, circuit level, so it is what is was, warts and all.
I’d assume q bias is probably controlling the amount of priority to peaks of incoming frequency ranges. Could be completely wrong but that’s kind of what it sounded like it was doing.
It's a trim pot that gets set during the factory calibration procedure. It's generally not set very accurately, so there's a bit of adjustability on the plugin so you can line the plugin up with any specific unit you have around. More specifically it's setting the FET bias voltage, so it's altering threshold, ratio and distortion all together.
Hi 👋 can you review WAVES rcompressor? I know I know you’re not a big fan of waves BUT I think this 1 plugin is worth reviewing.
Seems to be the first compressor plugin for you letting you tweak att, rel and ratio. Well, it's not the only one! Some have even a tweakable hp filter. Pretty strange that a mixing engineer needs visual feedback
Thanks for a review!
Between this and Fabfilter Pro C 2 you don't need another compressor plugin.
Whether you want more or not is an entirely different matter :D
This one, Cenozoix or presswerk?
Next review: DMG Limitless? 40 euros more than FF Pro-L2. Is it worth it?
I think the output is clean with no added analog emulation to the unit while makeup uses the analog emulated output at least that's what I remember it said. i read the manual like forever ago.
Yo. Great content as usual, but what's with all the adverts? Seems to be the same as is happening in Rick Beato's channel too?
Sooooo, when will you look at DMG's EQuilibrium? :D
+1
+ another 1
mhm yesh +1
Can you do a review on the hardware Kush Tweaker compressor?
looks like they've got a lot of great plugins. Fab filter Killer????
I use both but not the ones that overlap such as EQ, limiter and compressor. Dave at DMG Audio used to work for Focusrite.
nothing wrong with fabfilter. i still have and use pro-mb, and pro-l. i admire them because their products are easy to use for cavemen like me. i wish i could say the same about compassion when i bought it years ago (and couple of their other products)... but im getting the hang of it little by little... sooner or later ill be "qualified" to use compassion. 🤣🤣🤣
interesting track choice: Sandpumpe - first thought that was you're initial release time of 531ms
76a sounds fluttering 5:34 ... that's a bit strange because the UA 176A is far away from this.
I can help you pal, what you really feel is a placebo.
I'm on a 'compressor fast' as I have way too many - still if I was wanting one this could be a great choice! (I'm still debating whether or not to get the basic version of Reason for using the plugins in Logic... or get the ART stereo physical unit, which I don't have room for! I'm filling my c**p quota for today ;-) )
You should do a snake oil video on harrison mixbus. Their whole thing is that it's designed to provide analog coloring from the ground up
Nice and clear UI.
make up would be relative to the input signal, out put i just out put regardless of input
May I ask where this story about “Sandstom” came from? 🤤
Internet meme, is a response people jokingly provide online whenever someone asks for the title of a song.
I like the song. What’s the real name?
music is love forever
Does anyone else have this problem where the demo loads but does nothing? It just sits there and does nothing regardless of what I do to it. Never seen this happen before.
You've not installed your demo license. Drop us an email :) contact@dmgaudio.com
I like analog interfaces 🥶
So true not being able to see an 1176 kinda thing in front is a vibe killer .... Also all 1176 clones sound good
I like turtles (and analog interfaces).
Do a comparison between this plugin and the equivalents in hardware/from Waves!
I Agree, Track Comp is Tidy! Adjusting Params with Push2!
Ableton 12 gave me a bug where GUI of all DMG plugins are not displayed correctly and it’s practically unusable now. Still works fine in 11.
You need auto-output if you manipulate the input
"We don't want the analogue interface" you mean, you don't want the analogue interface? I come on here every so often and enjoy your videos but i get a little tired of you going on about how "analogue" style interfaces are not needed. I think you will find Luddites like myself who are used to and Use a lot of old classic analogue hardware quite welcome's interfaces that resemble the unit's i'm used to. To each his own i say. Some daws allow you to turn off the interfaces and just use their digital sliders if that what people want to do.That being said. I like this plugin
Mark T very good point!
Dang bro
I mean but when you only use a DAWs no UI mode, it’s usually organized in a way that would please no one :P
Are you watching reviews of someone who has a bias against analogue interfaces and then expecting him to not criticise analogue interfaces? Its something you'll have to deal with, and if you cant you'll have to find to someone else to watch.
@@MrThaffy I Never said "I couldn't deal with it." Never said I was "expecting him to not criticise analogue interfaces", I was Just making an observation based on a considered opposite point of view, but thanks for your valuable advice. AS i said in my post "to each his own" Have a nice day.
OMG Audio
What about BOZ Digital Labs Manic Compressor, mate?
LA2A has a bias control, maybe that' what the brightness or response are supposed to represent?
Would be interesting to hear your opinion on melda productions mturbocomp (le)
Interesting plugin 😯
akk DMG stuff seems really nice
Can you do a review of Harrison Mixbus?!
I actually prefer the "analog" looking interface with onscreen knobs and VU meters. Yes, it's technically unnecessary, and all that's needed are sliders and numbers, but I think it's the familiarity of the analog look of plugins that makes people feel more comfortable with using them. I do agree, though, that every plugin should have a switch that toggles the interface between the traditional analog look and something more of how the plugin looks in this video. Great work btw. Always awesome content here!
Are you a musician too?
Apple makes the worst mice on the market. thankfully Logi is making a Master 3 for Mac now.
Makes the most over priced, piece of shit build computers*
Please try BusColors4 from Airwindows
All the compressors modes have been COPIED FROM REAL HARDWARE BY USING SPICE TECHNOLOGY (as i remember), all the components stuff faithfully modelled, as Dave Gamble from DMG stated. And also, read manual and gearslutz thread to get way much more info
Maravilha homem , abraços do Brasil
It makes sense now why you consistently highlight plugin makers should not use a phony UI, or at least give you an advance version to make changes based on logical visual settings, instead of hardware design.
Very fast attack time at the beginning (0.03 ms 🙄)
cool cool cool
BUT HOW WILL I KNOW IT'S AN LA2A IF I CAN'T SEE THE F***ING SCREWS!!!
I understand why you don't like "fake" looking plugins that imitate analog gear, but here's another view. Many of us are not just engineers. Many of us are songwriters & performers. And like members of the Beatles and Ron Wood and Peter Gabriel, we're also visual fans and artists of a sort.
Why does. a kid like music to begin with? It's often visual. From the Beatles haircuts to Michael Jackson music videos to Billie Eilish's finger nails or Lady Gaga's crazy outfits.
Visuals. Matter.
Now this doesn't mean you have to knock off fake rack mount equipment, but lots of that old gear was really beautifully designed. From Vox amps to Joe Meek compressors. Distressors. LA2A. etc. Those of us who were able to record on tape in real studios fell in love with those looks. so having that look on our screen is a sense of comfort.
But even if you aren't in love with vintage style, it still has to be well designed. Functional yes. When you complain of lack of resize or waste of screen space I'm with you. But I find this plug in ugly. It doesn't inspire me to move it's sliders. There are some modern plug ins that are well designed. Valhalla for instance. Simple & functional yet elegant. This plugin isn't elegant.
And what you look at for hours matters. It effects your art. Look at plugins like Freakshow Industries that sort of make fun of the retro thing but really get creative with design. It's gotta feel creative. If it feels like some programming language with no style or color, I'm gonna' have a hard time getting inspired by it even if it sounds great..
Rock AND roll! Ying & yang. Visual & audio. Excite all my senses please!
Just my opinion.
I prefer software to be functional and easy to use first. I agree with Wytse, a good plugin UI needs to be made for a mouse and keyboard. I don’t think this plugin looks ugly per se, I think it looks good enough. I often use software that is far form inspirational and ugly as hell in my day job as a structural / building engineer. Software that doesn’t always do what I want it to do. Autodesk products in particular are the worst and kill all inspiration due to how poorly designed their stuff is. I have wasted a lot of time trying to model a non-planar geometry in Revit only to find out that the software is fighting the user. Same thing with audio software, I want it to be easy to use and efficient in operation. For me knobs have no use with a mouse and keyboard, then you might as well use the real thing instead. I find it always a pain to turn those knobs with a mouse where a slider would work much better. For me beautiful software and equipment follows the function over form principle. A bit like Bauhaus architecture in a way. No decorative frills, just pure function. My favorite DAW’s follow that principle and the inspiration comes naturally because a good piece of software is joy to use and bad UI can kill inspiration caused by frustrating the user. Autodesk Revit brings me to tears some times, Korg gadget makes me happy.
dykodesigns2yt I hear you. To each his own. And of course function needs to come BEFORE form. But I’m just pointing out to you & Wytse why some of us don’t mind the retro style.
A smart plugin company would have different skins that the user can pick. Maybe even switching from knobs to sliders. I bet there’s some out there, but I bet they can get expensive for a small company.
I actually like the new Logic Pro standard plugins. It’s a nice mix of old & new. The compressors have a semi-retro look but they don’t go crazy with it. While the reverb’s look more like Fab Filter. But with some really good graphic representation of what the delay & echo are actually doing to your signal. Very intuitive, which Apple is great at when they’re on their game.
(I have this GUI fight with my programmer brother. Not just music softest. He’s a Unix / Windows guy. I’m 100% Mac. Always have been. Why? It. Looks. Better.)
It's probably also a taste thing. I absolutely hate skeuomorphic designs, I find them ugly as hell.
In the end it's all about usability though, it's about having a user interface that easily guides you into the right direction.
Emulating the look of a hardware unit does not allow that. Skeumorphism has been dead since like... 2012 maybe? And that's for a reason.
Have you never noticed that basically every software that actual graphics people use looks rather flat and minimalistic?
I've never heard complaints from them that their software looks "uninspiring" or other stuff you often hear musicians say.
I've never heard anyone say excel looks to uninspiring to do some tables.
Imagine the on-screen keyboard on your iPhone emulating the look of a typewriter.
It's absurd. This kinda shit you only find in audio.
Don't rely on feelings all the time, sometimes it is a worst disturbance to success... Placebo
@@dodemahapat629 The only reason to make music or be creative is because of how it makes you feel. No other reason to do it.
Goddamit Wytse...STOP SPENDING MY MONEY!
Yeah. I've spent over a thousand dollars because of him!