Here’s my opinion and I’m sorry that it’s so long😅 Kaigaku easily loses since he’s not that experience. Rengoku Win’s Low Diff Daki and Gyutaro would be really difficult but I think Rengoku can behead them both with his abilities, Skills, reflexes, intelligence, and Battle IQ. since Akaza only managed to get a couple hits to Rengoku and he was Upper 3 while this is Upper 6. (yes, I do know that Akaza was holding back but again that’s Upper 3 and this is Upper 6) Rengoku Win’s Mid-High Diff Gyokko would also be a really difficult, but like I said with Gyutaro and Daki I think Rengoku can defeat Gyokko because of his Skills and abilities, and Gyokko would underestimate him just like Muichiro. Even though Rengoku didn’t unlock the demon slayer mark, he still quite powerful as just a base Hashira. so Gyokko in my opinion would lose to him. Rengoku Win’s High Diff And that’s where I stop because I don’t think he can solo Hantengu, Akaza, Doma, and Kokushibo. There could be good debates that he can probably Solo Nakime. But for right now it’s safe to say in my opinion he solos Kaigaku, Daki, Gyutaro, and Gyokko.
I am pretty sure that Rengoku would not resist Gyutaro's poison as well as Uzui did, Uzui had special training to counter that. First hit would probably disable him to the point he would die quickly. Daki is on a Lower Moon's level, Inosuke could not hold her on his own, he and Zenitsu together were required to best her.
I mean it isn't that Rengoku is weak.....pretty much all the Hashira would struggle to solo any upper moon by themselves which is why most are brought down with team effort and much costs
@@Thegreatlordofall he speed blitzed kaigaku with no effort. the only way kaigaku landed hits on him is because his BDA is long ranged, and was tearing away at his skin and flesh, forcing zenitsu to slow down or his body will be teared apart. i believe rengoku could beat kaigaku if his BDA wasn't so annoying to deal with
i always wondered what if rengoku took akaza's offer to become a demon and become a lot stronger, but instead of being on akaza's side he would turn on akaza and fight him still until dawn comes and finishing them both off. i always thought of that lol
I think Kokushibo would try to recruit Tanjiro after seeing him use Sun Breathing. I don't think he'd be angry, I think he'd absolute try his hardest to recruit him. To bring that bit of his family back into the fold.
To be fair it is stated that it'd take atleast 3 hashira to defeat most upper moons. So none would really stand a chance in most cases. Itd depend entirely on matchups of which hashira would do well with who. Realistically (i love Rengoku) he got lucky with the matchup he got.
Nah, all three of them are cocky, plus Rengoku could easily kill Lowermoon 2 as a Kinoe, so Uppermoon 6 would be a challenge, but not *nearly* as much as Akaza
How? Tengen even admitted that he wasn't on the same level as rengoku. Rengoku is faster and stronger than tengen. I'd say he'd win with help, of course. But by himself, he loses.
upper moons can definitely be soloed just not by Rengoku, Gyomei could probably solo everyone up to Doma, and Sanemi's breathing techniques are perfect for cutting Upper 6s heads off at the same time, @@stanleysanders9099
@@Koko-vo7mp He wouldn't. Poison + Rengoku has to figure out he has to decapitate them both at the same time = no chance. It required 1 Hashiras and 3 slayers to kill him...
rengoku is stronger than uzui so it would be different and hes also smarter so he would figure out a way to do it so rengoku would win against gyuttaro@@revolverkyosuke7049
Can you do something like if Rengoku actually got his mark? I don't know if you've done it already. Also, I think even if Hantengu transforms into Zohakuten, they would all still be alive since Rengoku is stronger than Mitsuri and Tanjiro and Inosuke together are stronger than Genya. Also, if you think about it, if Tanjiro and the rest are about to die then Nezuko would help just like she did in the entertainment district arc. Also I don't think douma would get angry
Daki isn't the upper moon , it's her brother, Daki's job is to help the upper moon 6 , Muzan put her like this as she's too strong to be a lower moon but also not strong enough to an upper moon.
@@BruhTNT4258no, YOU'RE wrong. They're not the "same demon" they're the same ranking because they're part of each other. Two different demons, different abilities, different Blood Demon Art, different looks, different personalities, brother and sister. Gyutaro just hide within her back. Tanjiro and Tengen both figured that Gyutaro was the main unit during their fight. Meaning he was the stronger of the two. Daki was the weaker of the two. EVERYONE acknowledge that with dialogue, Daki, Gyutaro, Tanjiro, and Tengen. I'm surprised you and the actual UA-camr missed that. Go back and rewatch the anime and reread the subtitles. Or read the Manga.
I noticed in episode 21, that Tanjiro said he would leave the Demon Slayer Corps, what would happen if he was able to escape from Kanao and leave the Demon Slayer Corps. He has his sister and plot armor
Honestly I think it would’ve been really interesting to see rengoku go against Gyokko because of a flame versus fish and vase battle. How would Rengoku fair against being surrounded by water and would he attempt to evaporate or even fry some seafood 😂
Well,Rengoku would do actually very well against pot form Gyokko. This fact stimulates from the fact(lol) that base peak Rengoku>Muichiro in every right and he got tagged by a pot fork Gyokko who was toying and holding back. It's Gyokkos true form that Rengoku would stand no chance against I'm talking about Rengoku would get so extreme neg diffed Gyokko would question his "belief" in the hashiras being humanities last line of defense.
@@pipethegadoll1376 I can see that Gyokko would have the upper hand if he was in his final/true form, but would that battle turn into Rengoku’s favor if he awakened his Demon Slayer mark or would that not make a difference?
@jewellcleveland2226 If Rengoku got a mark he wouldn't win against Gyokko. Muichiro only won because Gyokko still held back and was acting dumb. Marked Mui is not actually above Gyokko in any way. He's not even above Gyutaro.
I feel like upon seeing tanjiro’s sun breathing kokushibo would not only kill him but also mutilate his body until sunrise allowing the others to escape
When upper five trap him in the water, when he come out the water will be boiled because he uses fire breathing techniques, he will die because of boiling water
i'm not sure anyone knows this, but gyutaro could probably outmatch any hashira except for tengen in a 1v1. tengen was the perfect match against gyutaro as he has poison resistance, while the other hashira don't. even a very strong hashira like gyomei or sanemi would crumble to gyutaro's poison as it is the strongest poison we see in the entire demon slayer show (even stronger than muzan's poison)
Only if he lands a hit. He might land a hit on Rengoku because Flame breathing is a bit lacking on defence. Though he could make up for it using his superior speed and skills. He wouldn't land a hit on Tokito or Kanroji. They can defend well. But his surprise attack like he gave Uzui would definitely get them. So in all scenarios it's a 50-50. I also think he would have a hard time with Shinobu. She also dabbles in poisons like him and that might mean she's got some resistance or knows how to resist it's effects. Though Gyutaro wins because of the power difference plus Daki factor. All these are good matchups but the perfect one was Tengen Uzui. And Giyu would easily win. I haven't seen the others in action yet so I wouldn't know how they would win or lose against Gyutaro.
@@huhhhhhh5225 Kanroji maybe. Though her whip sword seems very good at defending attacks. But Gyutaro wins due to his intense analysis of the flow of a fight as compared to Kanroji who was fighting an upper rank recklessly had she not been told of the main body factor by Tanjiro. Gyutaro on the other hand knew his priorities and who was the threat to deal with at what point in the battle. Because of this quality, the victory would be his. But I don't see him winning against Tomioka. 11th form is just too powerful. Tomioka would solo him nicely. The only thing that would save Gyutaro is the simultaneous decapitation factor. And he has to pray that Daki won't be anywhere in Giyu's range as his own head is being cut off. I can't see Gyutaro winning against Giyu. Maybe if you could tell me how. Maybe by a surprise attack? I think his worst opponents would be Giyu and Sanemi(this is just intuition, I can't support the Sanemi argument as I haven't seen him in action yet)
@@darrylokech292I agreed until you said Tomioka would solo because he does not and it's not even close. 11th form may be able to deflect the blood blades all it can but deflecting is the same are negating/destroying(like what Tengens bombs could do). As long as they're aren't destroyed,the blood blades will continue to follow Giyu and Gyutaro can use that to his advantage by stepping in for some nice cqc and land a bunch of fatal blows on the water pillar.
One key factor missed! Muzan ordered Akaza to kill tanjiro and the others! Second 6: immediately wounld go for the kill to claim his spot, but after would get distracted by Zenitsu. Upper 6: Rengoku would never survive the poison look how quickly it was killing tanjiro, Tengen had to use his muscles to stop the flow. Upper 5: would turn them into fish, for anything he punches turns Upper 4: under muzans orders he would be more about killing tanjiro Upper 2: no females so he wouldn’t be entertained to keep anyone alive Upper 1: just kills everyone
People in the comment section really underplaying Akaza. Spoiler warning: Seeing as a human, Hakuji destroyed the whole dojo of swordsmen unscathed, I think he could be among the strongest breath users, without breathing add to that demon powers and hundreds of years of growth, Akaza would destroy any hashira
Hantengu is way more dangerous than Akaza and i think he is stronger than Akaza but his main form is coward thats why is he afraid to fight for higher rank
I don't get why people think Gyutaro is weaker than Gyokko and hantengu, the only reason Gyutaro isn't upper moon 4 is because of his sister who he needs to protect while fighting, as The demon daddy himself stated.
Tengen was stated to be pretty similar in power to Rengoku who battled akaza, and Uzui was exchanging blows equally with Gyutaro. Not to mention how muichiro took care of upper 5 gyokko like a bitch. He's clearly weaker than gyutaro
@@asnumegra8 Tengen was never stated to be close in power as Rengoku and your clearly downplaying gyokko, muichiro was fighting for his life and on the verge of death until he awakened his slayer mark which drastically changes his strength and speed he could of as easily taken care of gyutaro much faster without any difficulty and remember its a power hierachy so please stop trying to downplay gyokko
U guys have to remember that it took Tengen + the trio just to barely take out Gyutaro and Daki. And there’s no way Rengoku > Tengen + the trio 💀 Now Rengoku might be able to take on Gyutaro but with the poison and Daki’s assistance, he’d lose mid-high diff. Remember only Tengen has poison resistance and even he almost died at the end if it wasn’t for Nezuko lol
@@lolman6976he was letting rengoku hit him to show the regenerative abilities of a demon and why he should become one. Tengen + the trio > not serious akaza The only time akaza tried is against 9th form and when the sun was coming up. Tengen > rengoku. Rengoku would also die to poison
These are the factors to consider on every upper moon aside from top 2. If you want to beat them as a Hashira, Upper 6: the simultaneous decapitation is very difficult and the poison makes them very deadly. Upper 5: the elusiveness and the poison make him very frustrating to deal with. But his deadly fish touch is what you must watch out for. Upper 4: His clones are deceptive and waste much of your time and energy as he gets useful intel on your abilities. Then at the final form, he fully occupies you when you're also supposed to go hunting a very elusive mouse sized demon. I think only a peak Tokito could do that solo as he could confuse them with his seventh mist form. And get to the main body easily without it knowing which direction to escape towards and the bodyguard having no knowledge of both their whereabouts and how to protect the main body. And maybe peak Zenitsu to outspeed both. Upper 3: No way you're winning solo if you dont have the mark and this is for the best among the Hashira. I've not seen the other upoer moons in action yet. So i naturally wouldn't know of their greatest strengths and weaknesses.
I'm glad someone mentions this. Sure, Daki and Gyutaro aren't the strongest upper moons but those siblings are NO JOKE. Like you mentioned, simultaneous decapitation is an extremely irritating nuisance that is required to kill them, especially since they don't reveal this at first. Meaning you'd lop Daki's head iff THEN discover you have to do this a SECOND time. (Wasting your energy.) Gyutaro has a strong neck and Daki has a cloth measure, meaning getting anybody's head off their shoulders is difficult in the first place. Heck, Daki had to be beheaded three times before she was actually dead. Then Gyutaro's poison? That's a whole other problem to deal with. The only reason why Tengen was even able to MOVE was because he had pre-existing resistance to poison and knew how to slow his heart. Same with Inosuke's poison resistance. Even at that, the poison still affected them both and they would have surely died if not for Nezuko. Someone without poison resistance would be quickly dead after being hit by Gyutaro (avoiding him is already difficult when he's so fast and you have to keep an eye on his sister). Their BDA'S and other abilities just bring together so many complications that make dealing with them extremely difficult. Unless you're Yoriichi, I don't see how a single slayer could do away with them. No wonder so many hashira had fallen to them both.
@@ineedausername9617 that's right. I couldn't help but celebrate their defeat because it was a one in a million chance of victory pulled off. The stars aligned very well for the Demon slayers on that day. Even though Gyutaro alone was strong enough to handle them all alone, the simultaneous decapitation factor must have made it impossible for the Hashiras who went solo on him previously. Even if they managed to cut off his head(because Gyutaro was still a weaker version of himself, say when he hadn't joined the upper moons yet or when he was just joining). And like Gyutaro and Daki said, they've always had long nights in their favour. Unlike Hantengu and Akaza who had the sun come up on them, the situation of the Gyutaro and Daki was rigged by them such that their fights always began early in the night just after dusk. So they didn't face much pressure allowing them to have calm heads as their plans rolled into place. Then their attitudes aren't playful like Gyokko's. They mean business from the start. In fact the mistake on their side that led to their defeat was because Gyutaro chose to ignore a wriggling Zenitsu and decided to dialogue with Tanjiro because he thought that he had won already. Making that compromise to torment and torture Tanjiro was his problem on that day. I bet his demon nature kicked in so he could have fun at someone else's prolonged misery. Otherwise had he dealt with them all as brutally as he did in the beginning, nothing could have stopped his victory. That was his only mistake. He stopped being deadly(attitude switched from instant killing to prolonged torture) for just a moment and that spelled his doom.
The thumbnail has rengoku smiling behind kokoshibo but if kokoshibo was there instead demon slayer would be done within the next two nanoseconds of him arriving
There is absolutely no way that Zohakuten would beat Kyojuro, the 2nd strongest hashira (and company) effortlessly. The 7th strongest hashira, Mitsuri, held her own for quite some time and at the beginning of the fight, she overwhelmed Zohakuten. She has "lost" only because the fight went half the night and began to lose strength. With the little time till dawn during the mugen train fight, I'm sure Kyojuro would overwhelm Zohakuten even more and might even kill Hantengu and so, Zohakuten will vanish. But Hantengu/Zohakuten fights dirty, he probably will bother the passengers and hide Hantengu so far off that it's impossible to find him. But still, no way that Zohakuten will effortlessly beat Kyojuro.
kyojuro is not the 2nd strongest hashira, most people have agreed that he's on the lower end of the hashira, around the 5th strongest. though mitsuri is considered the 6th strongest
First he is not the 2nd strongest hashira, he is 6th strongest and since he couldn't unlock ds mark, it will be very tough for him to hold until sunrise.
Rengoku might not be the 2nd strongest but definitely not 6th in the current group of hashiras. Every source and every fan states something else and that's ok. Aside from biases and opinions, let's focus on what the 'lore' and (background)stories, and thus, the facts, tells us. Since Rengoku is using one of the 5 main breathing techniques (stone, water, fire, thunder and wind), it doesn't make sense that he's lower ranked than that. And since there is currently no thunder hashira, there are 4 hashiras using a main technique. That being said, Rengoku is at least between 2-4 strongest with Gyomei heavily on top. It also doesn't make sense that any hashira using a breathing technique that is derived from one of the 5 mains, is stronger. If Rengoku is 6th, then there are 2 hashiras using a derived technique who is stronger and that can't be possible. A derived technique is created in order to suit its compatible user because the user cannot master one of the main 5 techniques initially. Just like not everyone can master sun breathing, that's why the current 5 main techniques are developed. A derived technique, whether it's honed to perfection or even with the demon slayer mark, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's (by default) stronger than one of the 5 mains, but also not necessarily mean they can't be stronger. Just like the GPA using S, A, B etc. Sun breathing's rank is S, the 5 main techniques rank is A(+++) and the derived techniques ranks A- to B+. So in that group of the mains, there could be differences in strength and experience, hence the plusses on the A ranking. So it's definitely debatable what his ranking is between spots 2, 3, 4 or even 5 if all 5 mains were active. The author never ranked other hashiras besides Gyomei (as #1). So on my earlier post, I was also quick to jump into conclusion that Rengoku is the 2nd strongest based on thin air. But this explanation contains a lot of truth from the author and its stories for this anime.
@@Askaa88 can't read that long paragraph sorry, but here is the real ranking - 1. Gyomei, 2. Sanemi 3. Obanai 4. Muichiro 5. Giyu 6. Rengoku 7. Mitsuri 8. Tengen 9. Shinobu
Once again the “real” hashira ranking is: Gyomei > then most likely whoever your favorites are in order. Every ranking you find on the internet is based on fan speculations. Try read the post, or rather, phrases of the author and understand that the ranking is not correct, in fact, no one's ranking is correct. You can't deny the "author's law", the official lore and interviews. The author only ranked Gyomei and explained the working system of the breathing techniques while being used by a hashira. And to be fair, even if the author comes up with the rankings, people will still nag about it so it's fine, agree to disagree.
Against kaigaku: Wins Against gyutaro and daki: Lose mid-low diff Against gyokko: Can survived if gyokko is toying. Otherwise same as gyutaro +daki. Against zoharkuten: Lose low diff. And he have time to est Kamado squad Against doma and kokou= Lose negg diff and have time to eat kamado squad
For the Kokushibo vs Rengoku battle, wouldn't Rengoku unlock his mark because Kokushibo has his? In demon slayer, it said “When the marked one arrives, the mark would appear on others around that person as if in resonance.” It still wouldn't mean Rengoku would win but would push his limits and cause Kokushibo to draw his sword and try hold him off for a bit.
In mugan train we see Rengoku can one on one with Akaza for a very long time and almost kill him. Rengoku can cut him arms twice and slash his chest with his flame breathing compare to Giyu with his water breathing cannot hit Akaza a single time flame breathing is insanely powerful only two breathing that i can see is stronger is Moon and Sun. Form his mother Rengoku is born as a talent child. It is truth he don’t have much strength as Mitsuri or Gymei but he still very strong. One more thing he fights Akaza without a weaken mark. If you don’t watch Mugan train movie yet, watch it you can see how strong he is
Experience is knowing what happend in the past not the future, it does not always guarantee that you will win a fight because you have it. Having experience might be an advantage but rational thinking is better because it helps you predict future events without experience.
Rengoku, due to scaling to a trying Akaza, would defeat anyone from Upper Moon 6 to Upper Moon 5. While I’d say that Daki + Gyutaro COULD give him trouble thanks to their gimmick, I think he’d be able to do so due to his overall strength and power. Gyokko, even while scaling higher, was no diffed by a Marked Muichiro(Who isn’t peak Muichiro), so I’d argue he’d be able to take him down with some difficulty. Unfortunately, I don’t see him beating Hantengu. He has no means of finding the main body and while he’d PROBABLY be able to take on the four emotion clones, the moment Zohakuten gets whipped out he’s getting worn down and exhausted. It’s definitely possible that he may last till Sunrise IF Zohakuten doesn’t get formed, I don’t see him winning regardless. As for Douma, it’s possible Douma might play with his food a bit too much and he’d last long enough, but if Douma is hungry or is under strict orders to kill, Rengoku’s getting folded like a lawn chair. Kokushibo is oneshotting him. There’s no other way to put it. He’s flat out oneshotting him.
Not even remotely accurate or true. Rengoku never scaled or matched Akaza for anything. Don't mistake Rengoku fighting his life/giving it his all and Akaza casually countering him; for Rengoku "keeping up". He would never win against Gyutaro due to Tengen being the significantly stronger hashira and he couldn't even beat UM 6. If I had to place the Akaza that Rengoku canonically fought,I'd say Akaza scales somewhere below Gyutaro but above Rengoku. Either that OR the Akaza we see is actually the true extent of Gyutaros(2 eyes) full power therefore meaning Rengoku would require something like a mark just to actually fight UM 6. Either way is very consistent.
that scaling is off due to the fact Akaza was toying with Kyojuro and wasnt going serious against him, Kyojuro gets low diffed by Gyutaro, Tengen is officially faster and stronger than Kyojuro, and even he was getting outpaced by Gyutaro, Kyojuro is gonna struggle to keep up against both Gyutaro and Daki, the moment he gets hit, its over.
@@fbi9833 Rengoku is not getting hit by the two of them. Tengen is a straight up perception blitz over Daki if she’s not backed by Gyutaro, and it’s outright confirmed due to not only Tengen’s internal monologue but also a comparison between their feats that Rengoku > Tengen. The “race” and “arm wrestling contest” are completely arbitrary and should not be taken into consideration at all with scaling. I’ll admit I did overhype Rengoku by saying Akaza was trying throughout the fight. He clearly wasn’t and was actively attempting to goad Rengoku into becoming a demon, only trying when Rengoku had him in a deadlock and would have been killed by the sun if he hadn’t escaped. That being said, proportionately, he is STILL far more skilled and faster than Tengen in terms of combat speed. Tengen may take running speed, but was incapable of blocking Gyutaro’s strike completely when his speed blitz was countered, thus putting Rengoku’s combat speed over Tengen’s. Akaza, even while treating the fight as a game, is not only still superior to the combined might of Gyutaro and Daki, but also superior to Gyokko as well based on their comparative feats. Muichiro, while marked, was easily able to overwhelm and toy with Gyokko. I do believe that Rengoku would be able to defeat Gyokko handily due to being able to withstand Akaza’s flurries, even if he wasn’t going all out. That being said, I don’t see Rengoku beating Hantengu. While I think he could deal with the lesser clones, the moment Zohakuten comes out, it’s wraps for our boy. He’s gonna get tired out and ultimately overwhelmed, leading to his death. That being said, though: Toying Akaza >= Zohakuten > Rengoku > Gyokko > Gyutaro + Daki > Gyutaro > Tengen > Daki
so are we going to forget the fact you added kaigaku the new upper 6 despite the fact he wasnt demon yet, but you couldnt include the biwa women the new upper 4
The same thing would've happened, just quicker lol It's not that's he's weak, the Upper Moons are ALL more powerful than any individual hashira(and these are supposed to be the strongest generation of Hashira since Yorichii too). If you've read the manga, the Uppers only get defeated because 1) they are too arrogant and don't the fight too seriously and give the opponent multiple chances to live(Douma, Gyokko, Gyutaro) 2) They get ganged up on by multiple marked hashira or hashira-level slayers (Hantengu) 3) They become racked with regret and kill themselves(Kokushibo and Azaka).
I'm sorry but, without the Mark buff, since Tanjiro hadn't awakened it, he could win Kaigaku, and that's all. Tengen in base is probably stronger than Rengoku, since he is pretty faster, and he was a way better matchup against Gyutaro, having poison resistance and two blades, Rengoku can't win against this poison. Gyokko is debatable, except Kaigaku, he's the least lethal Upper moon for a human to fight. His poison isn't as ruthless as Gyutaro. We can't say that Rengoku is stronger than Marked Muichiro, but as Gyokko got owned, Rengoku could maybe do something. Plus his breathing style is much more destructive, so he should be able to break the water pot. However, Gyokko could win if he doesn't find a way to be distracted(he could be with Tanjiro and the others). All the others upper moons are too strong for a non-marked individual to handle, Zohakuten would win in attrition, as even marked Mitsuri couodn't fight him and find the lil one, and ofc, Akaza, Doma and Kokushibo manhandle him. I love Rengoku, but there's so little you can do without a mark and poison resistance
@@hazardEXE27 well that was 2 years after rengokus death.. by that time rengoku would have gone through hashira training+ as akaza mentioned his skills would peak after 2 years.. so that means rengokus prime would be when the final battle takes place.. the only advantage sanemi have over rengoku is that he is a marechi
@@greybo4034 here is some official fanbook info for you clearification: In unmarked state Sanemi is the 2nd fastest hashira .So with mark Sanemi is the fastest hashira......(Note Here its speed without breathing technique.So with breathing sanemi next level fast).. Whereas Rengoku is 5th fastest in unmarked state......See the different... Also there are few condition to awaken the mark ..So even if Rengoku train 5 years then also he can't awaken mark because centain condition is required.. Also was not trying hard in megun train battle..... Akaza can easily kill rengoku in secs in that fight but he choose not to.. So read manga, Fanbook and data book before saying any comments...
Correction for Gyutard and Donkey: You dont have to cut their heads at the same time, you just have to make sure both of their heads are cut off. So if Goku sliced off Donkey's head, he can cut off Gyuutards head later as long as Donkey doesn't reattach her head.
I see a reference to this video’s thumbnail: Garou killed Mumen rider by smashing mumen rider’s face to the ground and the pic u showed like: what’s wrong?
Rengoku's pov encountering douma: HII YAAAAA Douma's pov: my toy is tickling me rengoku: 9TH FORM: RENGOKUUUUUU douma: bad toy>:( slaps rengoku effortlessly rengoku💀
also i think the demons will take longer to come and gives rengoku and tanjiro time to prepare or even call another hashira to help since muzan only called akaza since hes the closest to them.
Guys hear me out ok . Ok just imagine that Rengoku had ice breathing ok this is how the fight would go if Rengoku fought douma with his ice breathing. It's like ice demon vs ice hashira this fight will be to die for it . Ok so let me tell U all the 4 moves of ice breathing first is frosted flakes this is where Rengoku is sword has spikes and this move gives Rengoku the ability to move in the most thick ice cold place with ease and could kill upper moon 6 since the spikes on his blade makes Rengoku move faster than the speed of sound . Second move is thick ice waves this move is where the spikes are used less and hand power is used more so in this move it's enough to kill upper moon 6 and 4 this is because this move is where Rengoku swings his sword so hard it makes the air in the room super thick and when Rengoku goes for the demon he disappears into thin air this is because his speed in this like the speed of sun breathing and he always the demon in 1sec also this move is enough to leave 6/7 scars on upper moon 3 also this move isn't like the strongest yet . I will do part 2 when this gets 2 likes 😊 8:57
The effects of all the breathing styles are just cosmetical, rengoku would need a BDA to create ice sickles and to make the air cold and thick. I like the idea of ice breathing, yet Douma would still win because Douma is just better in every aspect than any hashira. (even than marked gyomei)
@@OhPepper no like U see shinoubu has poison in her sword ryt so Rengoku would have much nitrogen or hydrogen something like that in his sword so if he uses super much strength then the mixture comes out and spreads like a gas
@@kycapedtior Yeah, that would make more sense, but I don’t know if nitrogen was a thing in Japan in that era. Still I’d have loved to see an ice breathing hashira and your idea is kinda what I thought it would look like 👍
people act like Rengoku was weak, when the dude A. had been fighting all night blazing through the train. Had a training regiment that none of the other Hashira wanted to do. including the love hashira
This content creator forgets to add "I think..In my opinion" at the beginning of every sentence..how is my guy explaining it like it actually happened while its all headcanon. The audacity put it as if its the only truth trully amuses me.
Flame hashira can certainly beat Gyokko’s water based attacks. He can certainly beat most of hantengu’s forms but will have trouble finding killing his main body. Gyotaro may be difficult but certainly possible
Which demons in your opinion would Rengoku be able to defeat?
Maybe atleast uh gyokko or hantengu
Atleast upper 6 and 6 and4 Nakime and 5 gyokko also third
I think rengoku would have won against upper moon 6,5 and 4
Here’s my opinion and I’m sorry that it’s so long😅
Kaigaku easily loses since he’s not that experience.
Rengoku Win’s Low Diff
Daki and Gyutaro would be really difficult but I think Rengoku can behead them both with his abilities, Skills, reflexes, intelligence, and Battle IQ. since Akaza only managed to get a couple hits to Rengoku and he was Upper 3 while this is Upper 6.
(yes, I do know that Akaza was holding back but again that’s Upper 3 and this is Upper 6)
Rengoku Win’s Mid-High Diff
Gyokko would also be a really difficult, but like I said with Gyutaro and Daki I think Rengoku can defeat Gyokko because of his Skills and abilities, and Gyokko would underestimate him just like Muichiro. Even though Rengoku didn’t unlock the demon slayer mark, he still quite powerful as just a base Hashira. so Gyokko in my opinion would lose to him.
Rengoku Win’s High Diff
And that’s where I stop because I don’t think he can solo Hantengu, Akaza, Doma, and Kokushibo. There could be good debates that he can probably Solo Nakime. But for right now it’s safe to say in my opinion he solos Kaigaku, Daki, Gyutaro, and Gyokko.
Anyone who's not Upper Moon 3 cause that fight was close so Kaiguyaka,daki,gytuaro,Gyokko,hantengu 😂😅😅😅😊😊
I love how the thumbnail was Kokushibo’s head as if he doesn’t solo the other upper moons by himself lmao.
He sneezes almost the whole cast
@@ReezyPplot armour debunked him
right, captain obvious! (yeagerist for sarcasm, lmao, clown)
Its really weird cause the upper moons always go for the passengers when they've all already evacuated before Akaza even got there in the first place
I am pretty sure that Rengoku would not resist Gyutaro's poison as well as Uzui did, Uzui had special training to counter that. First hit would probably disable him to the point he would die quickly. Daki is on a Lower Moon's level, Inosuke could not hold her on his own, he and Zenitsu together were required to best her.
Tanjiro and others were still able to hold out despite being poison so he could definitely do it to
@smokedog7333 only for a few minutes so yea rengoku will die
@@Dreamtale_Dude and in those few minutes, he will already have killed both of them
@smokedog7333 I doubt it since tengen and tanjiro just bearly managed to cut gyutaros head and zenitsu and inosuke need to cut daki's head
@@Dreamtale_Dude and Rengoku is stronger than tengen and tanjiro and them in the entertainment district arc
Kaigaku being there would be impossible since Gyutaro and Daki haven’t even died yet in the current time
Well they said if it did happen
@@get_slammedNakimethey did
It's called:"what if logic"
There’s a reason why it’s called what if 🤡🫵
@@ZayTh3God my favorite comment 🤣
why did you have to break my heart many times wuth every defeat Rengoku faced?
he may not be the strongest, but he definetly had the strongest heart.
Open your mind, child. It's a cartoon character. Do you need me to remind you?
@@alisalah5746 yea anime is totally for kids 💀
@@alisalah5746 Yeah “totally” anime is for kids totally not being 16+, nxdity, gore, and swear words 💀 yea “totally” for kids 💀✌🏻
@@alisalah5746 since your so much better than everyone how about you go get a job and a life?
I mean it isn't that Rengoku is weak.....pretty much all the Hashira would struggle to solo any upper moon by themselves which is why most are brought down with team effort and much costs
Love how the story is made
Keep it up guys 🫡
2:08 did you forget that every time zenitsu fights he is sleeping or unconscious
You didn't mention kokushibo's strongest technique, the transparent world
He doesn't need it to beat him. He mostly uses Transparent world just out of curiosity in 1 vs 1battle
Rengokus awarness is high as hell he even choked the person who was trying to break his core he wouldnt be catched off guard by daki and gyutaro
Keep up the good work bro I love your videos
If Zenitsu can surpass Kaigaku, so can Rengoku with lots more training and screentime.
zenitsu was WAY above rengoku after hashira training arc though
and his blood demon art would wear rengoku down to the point where he can't fight anymore or he'll be ripped apart
He really wasn't though and he was still getting slammed by kaigaku he just landed the kill shot
@@ReezyP cap
@@Thegreatlordofall he speed blitzed kaigaku with no effort.
the only way kaigaku landed hits on him is because his BDA is long ranged, and was tearing away at his skin and flesh, forcing zenitsu to slow down or his body will be teared apart.
i believe rengoku could beat kaigaku if his BDA wasn't so annoying to deal with
Honestly, Rengoku has a high chance of not killing gyutaro and daki (nor surviving) at that current time
fr considering that inosuke and tanjiro weren't that strong yet either
i always wondered what if rengoku took akaza's offer to become a demon and become a lot stronger, but instead of being on akaza's side he would turn on akaza and fight him still until dawn comes and finishing them both off. i always thought of that lol
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@@owensunuwar697 i like my cheese drippy bruh
Couldn't have missed this video!!!
I think Kokushibo would try to recruit Tanjiro after seeing him use Sun Breathing. I don't think he'd be angry, I think he'd absolute try his hardest to recruit him. To bring that bit of his family back into the fold.
That's a good assumption 👍🏾
New DS Watcher/ New Fan
Rengoku’s death hurt me so much 😭😭😭 He really left an impression on me with his Humbleness & Generosity
Please dont read the manga then 😭😭😭
I won't spoil this for you but the manga's going to be a pretty grim read.
I died laughing after seeing the thumbnail.
I love the picture at 7:21
To be fair it is stated that it'd take atleast 3 hashira to defeat most upper moons. So none would really stand a chance in most cases. Itd depend entirely on matchups of which hashira would do well with who. Realistically (i love Rengoku) he got lucky with the matchup he got.
@abbasalqattan2759 it's for all uppermoons.
He would die againts Gyutaro and Daki because they would take it seriously unlike Akaza.
Nah, all three of them are cocky, plus Rengoku could easily kill Lowermoon 2 as a Kinoe, so Uppermoon 6 would be a challenge, but not *nearly* as much as Akaza
rengoku stops at gyutaro what are you on 💀🤠
How? Tengen even admitted that he wasn't on the same level as rengoku. Rengoku is faster and stronger than tengen. I'd say he'd win with help, of course. But by himself, he loses.
And remember the last push with tengen vs gyutaro he was actually on equal footing when he adapted to gyutaro attack where he throws slashes.
@@eniesmellner6762 confirmed in the data books tengen is the fastest hashira and 2 nd in strength
The thumbnail 💀
Im gonna be honest he stops at gyutaro cuz it is a 50/50 if gyutaro poisons him its over
the upper moons can't be soloed gyokko was the exception
upper moons can definitely be soloed just not by Rengoku, Gyomei could probably solo everyone up to Doma, and Sanemi's breathing techniques are perfect for cutting Upper 6s heads off at the same time, @@stanleysanders9099
@@stanleysanders9099 wind and stone can beat every upper moon till akaza
He stops at akaza
@@niharkasireddi9992 Gyomei definitely can and even possesses mid to high difficulty to Akaza.
the actual movie: rengoku died to upper moon 3
the thumbnail: rengoku holding uppermoon 1s decapitated head
wth
If Daki was the solo Upper Moon 6, then Rengoku might have a chance.
Rengoku would mid diff gyuttaro💀💀
@@Koko-vo7mp He wouldn't. Poison + Rengoku has to figure out he has to decapitate them both at the same time = no chance.
It required 1 Hashiras and 3 slayers to kill him...
rengoku is stronger than uzui so it would be different and hes also smarter so he would figure out a way to do it so rengoku would win against gyuttaro@@revolverkyosuke7049
@@revolverkyosuke7049exactly rengoku is a fodder. Fanboys are getting crazy ngl
@@revolverkyosuke7049rengoku>tengan I don’t even like either characters
Douma wouldn’t get angry that rengoku is staling douma because douma doesn’t feel emoitan
Can you do something like if Rengoku actually got his mark? I don't know if you've done it already. Also, I think even if Hantengu transforms into Zohakuten, they would all still be alive since Rengoku is stronger than Mitsuri and Tanjiro and Inosuke together are stronger than Genya. Also, if you think about it, if Tanjiro and the rest are about to die then Nezuko would help just like she did in the entertainment district arc. Also I don't think douma would get angry
Stop making up that rengoku is strong even marked mitsuri (who def has way more durability due to dense muscles) had so much trouble with zohakuten
With the mark, he could hold Zohakuten. But Zenitsu, Inosuke, and Tanjiro were all wounded so they won’t do anything 💀
Rengoku is not stronger than mitsuri and tanjiro during the SSVA so he would die
base rengoku>>>>>base mitsuri
@@i_wduck7181 she needed the mark to hold him 😂
I feel like as soon as kaigaku saw zenitsu in Mugen train he would go for him
Daki isn't the upper moon , it's her brother, Daki's job is to help the upper moon 6 , Muzan put her like this as she's too strong to be a lower moon but also not strong enough to an upper moon.
No Gyutaro and Daki is two demon in one. They are the same demon.
@@BruhTNT4258no, YOU'RE wrong. They're not the "same demon" they're the same ranking because they're part of each other. Two different demons, different abilities, different Blood Demon Art, different looks, different personalities, brother and sister. Gyutaro just hide within her back. Tanjiro and Tengen both figured that Gyutaro was the main unit during their fight. Meaning he was the stronger of the two.
Daki was the weaker of the two. EVERYONE acknowledge that with dialogue, Daki, Gyutaro, Tanjiro, and Tengen. I'm surprised you and the actual UA-camr missed that. Go back and rewatch the anime and reread the subtitles. Or read the Manga.
I noticed in episode 21, that Tanjiro said he would leave the Demon Slayer Corps, what would happen if he was able to escape from Kanao and leave the Demon Slayer Corps. He has his sister and plot armor
Honestly I think it would’ve been really interesting to see rengoku go against Gyokko because of a flame versus fish and vase battle. How would Rengoku fair against being surrounded by water and would he attempt to evaporate or even fry some seafood 😂
Well,Rengoku would do actually very well against pot form Gyokko.
This fact stimulates from the fact(lol) that base peak Rengoku>Muichiro in every right and he got tagged by a pot fork Gyokko who was toying and holding back.
It's Gyokkos true form that Rengoku would stand no chance against I'm talking about Rengoku would get so extreme neg diffed Gyokko would question his "belief" in the hashiras being humanities last line of defense.
i mean demonslayer breathing styles aren't actually visible to anybody so idk bout that one
@@pipethegadoll1376 I can see that Gyokko would have the upper hand if he was in his final/true form, but would that battle turn into Rengoku’s favor if he awakened his Demon Slayer mark or would that not make a difference?
@jewellcleveland2226 If Rengoku got a mark he wouldn't win against Gyokko.
Muichiro only won because Gyokko still held back and was acting dumb. Marked Mui is not actually above Gyokko in any way. He's not even above Gyutaro.
I feel like upon seeing tanjiro’s sun breathing kokushibo would not only kill him but also mutilate his body until sunrise allowing the others to escape
When upper five trap him in the water, when he come out the water will be boiled because he uses fire breathing techniques, he will die because of boiling water
And with Doma he will turn the ice to water then he will use water breathing style stronger because there is more water😂😂😂
Demon scientist😅😅😅
he doesnt actually produce fire so no, the breathing effects aint real
1:44 who the fuck is this “TENJIN” character?!
i'm not sure anyone knows this, but gyutaro could probably outmatch any hashira except for tengen in a 1v1. tengen was the perfect match against gyutaro as he has poison resistance, while the other hashira don't. even a very strong hashira like gyomei or sanemi would crumble to gyutaro's poison as it is the strongest poison we see in the entire demon slayer show (even stronger than muzan's poison)
And Gyomei
Only if he lands a hit. He might land a hit on Rengoku because Flame breathing is a bit lacking on defence. Though he could make up for it using his superior speed and skills. He wouldn't land a hit on Tokito or Kanroji. They can defend well. But his surprise attack like he gave Uzui would definitely get them. So in all scenarios it's a 50-50. I also think he would have a hard time with Shinobu. She also dabbles in poisons like him and that might mean she's got some resistance or knows how to resist it's effects. Though Gyutaro wins because of the power difference plus Daki factor. All these are good matchups but the perfect one was Tengen Uzui. And Giyu would easily win. I haven't seen the others in action yet so I wouldn't know how they would win or lose against Gyutaro.
@@darrylokech292 i think giyu and kanroji would get killed by gyutaro, but otherwise nice inference
@@huhhhhhh5225 Kanroji maybe. Though her whip sword seems very good at defending attacks. But Gyutaro wins due to his intense analysis of the flow of a fight as compared to Kanroji who was fighting an upper rank recklessly had she not been told of the main body factor by Tanjiro. Gyutaro on the other hand knew his priorities and who was the threat to deal with at what point in the battle. Because of this quality, the victory would be his. But I don't see him winning against Tomioka. 11th form is just too powerful. Tomioka would solo him nicely. The only thing that would save Gyutaro is the simultaneous decapitation factor. And he has to pray that Daki won't be anywhere in Giyu's range as his own head is being cut off. I can't see Gyutaro winning against Giyu. Maybe if you could tell me how. Maybe by a surprise attack? I think his worst opponents would be Giyu and Sanemi(this is just intuition, I can't support the Sanemi argument as I haven't seen him in action yet)
@@darrylokech292I agreed until you said Tomioka would solo because he does not and it's not even close.
11th form may be able to deflect the blood blades all it can but deflecting is the same are negating/destroying(like what Tengens bombs could do).
As long as they're aren't destroyed,the blood blades will continue to follow Giyu and Gyutaro can use that to his advantage by stepping in for some nice cqc and land a bunch of fatal blows on the water pillar.
The subscribe color thing caught me off guard
One key factor missed! Muzan ordered Akaza to kill tanjiro and the others!
Second 6: immediately wounld go for the kill to claim his spot, but after would get distracted by Zenitsu.
Upper 6: Rengoku would never survive the poison look how quickly it was killing tanjiro, Tengen had to use his muscles to stop the flow.
Upper 5: would turn them into fish, for anything he punches turns
Upper 4: under muzans orders he would be more about killing tanjiro
Upper 2: no females so he wouldn’t be entertained to keep anyone alive
Upper 1: just kills everyone
Douma kills woman, Akaza doesn’t
No
@@smokedog7333 You mean yes! Because your RenmidKu would get absolutely murdered, lmfao. Keep dreaming in your little fantasy world, kid 😂
ngl the thumbnail had me ROFL
I still wonder if rengoku became a demon and turned on the upper moons
i love when the charcters are animated with pixels
People in the comment section really underplaying Akaza. Spoiler warning:
Seeing as a human, Hakuji destroyed the whole dojo of swordsmen unscathed, I think he could be among the strongest breath users, without breathing add to that demon powers and hundreds of years of growth, Akaza would destroy any hashira
Douma can’t become serious he’s emotionless
so... kyojuro can keep akaza until sunrise without anyone dying, but he can't keep gyokko until sunlight without inosuke dying? 😂
I agree makes no sense he could have stalled all upper Moons except the top 3 that's very obvious
Hantengu is way more dangerous than Akaza and i think he is stronger than Akaza but his main form is coward thats why is he afraid to fight for higher rank
@@conexxmid63no Akaza is way stronger then hantengu bro😂
@@Trone-kq7tm I ain't your bro
@@conexxmid63 Shut your corny ass up 😂
Zenitsu may be asleep but he can still fight
I don't get why people think Gyutaro is weaker than Gyokko and hantengu, the only reason Gyutaro isn't upper moon 4 is because of his sister who he needs to protect while fighting, as The demon daddy himself stated.
you're right but hantengu is stronger than gyutaro
when was it stated that Gyutaro was upper moon 4 level? theirs rankings for a reason
Tengen was stated to be pretty similar in power to Rengoku who battled akaza, and Uzui was exchanging blows equally with Gyutaro. Not to mention how muichiro took care of upper 5 gyokko like a bitch. He's clearly weaker than gyutaro
@@asnumegra8 Tengen was never stated to be close in power as Rengoku and your clearly downplaying gyokko, muichiro was fighting for his life and on the verge of death until he awakened his slayer mark which drastically changes his strength and speed he could of as easily taken care of gyutaro much faster without any difficulty and remember its a power hierachy so please stop trying to downplay gyokko
@@asnumegra8 again when was it stated that gyutaro is upper moon 4 level without daki
Your the best
Fr
U guys have to remember that it took Tengen + the trio just to barely take out Gyutaro and Daki. And there’s no way Rengoku > Tengen + the trio 💀 Now Rengoku might be able to take on Gyutaro but with the poison and Daki’s assistance, he’d lose mid-high diff. Remember only Tengen has poison resistance and even he almost died at the end if it wasn’t for Nezuko lol
rengoku scales way above tengen being able to hold his own with a playful yet semi serious upper moon 3
Tengen could do the same even shinobu could hold her own against a playing akaza.
@@lolman6976he was letting rengoku hit him to show the regenerative abilities of a demon and why he should become one.
Tengen + the trio > not serious akaza
The only time akaza tried is against 9th form and when the sun was coming up. Tengen > rengoku. Rengoku would also die to poison
@@lolman6976 he still doesn't have poison resistance 💀 and it literally says in the video gyutaro land a few hits which means rengoku would die💀
@@AniVids637 rengoku was so fast he could keep up with akaza base form and akaza base form > gyutaro and daki
Really got that garou ahh pose in the thumbnail
These are the factors to consider on every upper moon aside from top 2.
If you want to beat them as a Hashira,
Upper 6: the simultaneous decapitation is very difficult and the poison makes them very deadly.
Upper 5: the elusiveness and the poison make him very frustrating to deal with. But his deadly fish touch is what you must watch out for.
Upper 4: His clones are deceptive and waste much of your time and energy as he gets useful intel on your abilities. Then at the final form, he fully occupies you when you're also supposed to go hunting a very elusive mouse sized demon. I think only a peak Tokito could do that solo as he could confuse them with his seventh mist form. And get to the main body easily without it knowing which direction to escape towards and the bodyguard having no knowledge of both their whereabouts and how to protect the main body. And maybe peak Zenitsu to outspeed both.
Upper 3: No way you're winning solo if you dont have the mark and this is for the best among the Hashira.
I've not seen the other upoer moons in action yet. So i naturally wouldn't know of their greatest strengths and weaknesses.
Gyomei can beat akaza aolo
@@mhdezung Without the mark? Hell no.
@@shawdits talking bout the mark
I'm glad someone mentions this. Sure, Daki and Gyutaro aren't the strongest upper moons but those siblings are NO JOKE. Like you mentioned, simultaneous decapitation is an extremely irritating nuisance that is required to kill them, especially since they don't reveal this at first. Meaning you'd lop Daki's head iff THEN discover you have to do this a SECOND time. (Wasting your energy.) Gyutaro has a strong neck and Daki has a cloth measure, meaning getting anybody's head off their shoulders is difficult in the first place. Heck, Daki had to be beheaded three times before she was actually dead. Then Gyutaro's poison? That's a whole other problem to deal with. The only reason why Tengen was even able to MOVE was because he had pre-existing resistance to poison and knew how to slow his heart. Same with Inosuke's poison resistance. Even at that, the poison still affected them both and they would have surely died if not for Nezuko. Someone without poison resistance would be quickly dead after being hit by Gyutaro (avoiding him is already difficult when he's so fast and you have to keep an eye on his sister). Their BDA'S and other abilities just bring together so many complications that make dealing with them extremely difficult. Unless you're Yoriichi, I don't see how a single slayer could do away with them. No wonder so many hashira had fallen to them both.
@@ineedausername9617 that's right. I couldn't help but celebrate their defeat because it was a one in a million chance of victory pulled off. The stars aligned very well for the Demon slayers on that day. Even though Gyutaro alone was strong enough to handle them all alone, the simultaneous decapitation factor must have made it impossible for the Hashiras who went solo on him previously. Even if they managed to cut off his head(because Gyutaro was still a weaker version of himself, say when he hadn't joined the upper moons yet or when he was just joining). And like Gyutaro and Daki said, they've always had long nights in their favour. Unlike Hantengu and Akaza who had the sun come up on them, the situation of the Gyutaro and Daki was rigged by them such that their fights always began early in the night just after dusk. So they didn't face much pressure allowing them to have calm heads as their plans rolled into place. Then their attitudes aren't playful like Gyokko's. They mean business from the start. In fact the mistake on their side that led to their defeat was because Gyutaro chose to ignore a wriggling Zenitsu and decided to dialogue with Tanjiro because he thought that he had won already. Making that compromise to torment and torture Tanjiro was his problem on that day. I bet his demon nature kicked in so he could have fun at someone else's prolonged misery. Otherwise had he dealt with them all as brutally as he did in the beginning, nothing could have stopped his victory. That was his only mistake. He stopped being deadly(attitude switched from instant killing to prolonged torture) for just a moment and that spelled his doom.
The thumbnail has rengoku smiling behind kokoshibo but if kokoshibo was there instead demon slayer would be done within the next two nanoseconds of him arriving
There is absolutely no way that Zohakuten would beat Kyojuro, the 2nd strongest hashira (and company) effortlessly. The 7th strongest hashira, Mitsuri, held her own for quite some time and at the beginning of the fight, she overwhelmed Zohakuten. She has "lost" only because the fight went half the night and began to lose strength. With the little time till dawn during the mugen train fight, I'm sure Kyojuro would overwhelm Zohakuten even more and might even kill Hantengu and so, Zohakuten will vanish. But Hantengu/Zohakuten fights dirty, he probably will bother the passengers and hide Hantengu so far off that it's impossible to find him. But still, no way that Zohakuten will effortlessly beat Kyojuro.
kyojuro is not the 2nd strongest hashira, most people have agreed that he's on the lower end of the hashira, around the 5th strongest. though mitsuri is considered the 6th strongest
First he is not the 2nd strongest hashira, he is 6th strongest and since he couldn't unlock ds mark, it will be very tough for him to hold until sunrise.
Rengoku might not be the 2nd strongest but definitely not 6th in the current group of hashiras. Every source and every fan states something else and that's ok. Aside from biases and opinions, let's focus on what the 'lore' and (background)stories, and thus, the facts, tells us. Since Rengoku is using one of the 5 main breathing techniques (stone, water, fire, thunder and wind), it doesn't make sense that he's lower ranked than that. And since there is currently no thunder hashira, there are 4 hashiras using a main technique. That being said, Rengoku is at least between 2-4 strongest with Gyomei heavily on top. It also doesn't make sense that any hashira using a breathing technique that is derived from one of the 5 mains, is stronger. If Rengoku is 6th, then there are 2 hashiras using a derived technique who is stronger and that can't be possible. A derived technique is created in order to suit its compatible user because the user cannot master one of the main 5 techniques initially. Just like not everyone can master sun breathing, that's why the current 5 main techniques are developed. A derived technique, whether it's honed to perfection or even with the demon slayer mark, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's (by default) stronger than one of the 5 mains, but also not necessarily mean they can't be stronger. Just like the GPA using S, A, B etc. Sun breathing's rank is S, the 5 main techniques rank is A(+++) and the derived techniques ranks A- to B+. So in that group of the mains, there could be differences in strength and experience, hence the plusses on the A ranking. So it's definitely debatable what his ranking is between spots 2, 3, 4 or even 5 if all 5 mains were active. The author never ranked other hashiras besides Gyomei (as #1). So on my earlier post, I was also quick to jump into conclusion that Rengoku is the 2nd strongest based on thin air. But this explanation contains a lot of truth from the author and its stories for this anime.
@@Askaa88 can't read that long paragraph sorry, but here is the real ranking -
1. Gyomei,
2. Sanemi
3. Obanai
4. Muichiro
5. Giyu
6. Rengoku
7. Mitsuri
8. Tengen
9. Shinobu
Once again the “real” hashira ranking is: Gyomei > then most likely whoever your favorites are in order. Every ranking you find on the internet is based on fan speculations. Try read the post, or rather, phrases of the author and understand that the ranking is not correct, in fact, no one's ranking is correct. You can't deny the "author's law", the official lore and interviews. The author only ranked Gyomei and explained the working system of the breathing techniques while being used by a hashira. And to be fair, even if the author comes up with the rankings, people will still nag about it so it's fine, agree to disagree.
Just like kotetsu did, tanjiro would probably blow into the vase to give renting air for a final resort
Against kaigaku: Wins
Against gyutaro and daki: Lose mid-low diff
Against gyokko: Can survived if gyokko is toying. Otherwise same as gyutaro +daki.
Against zoharkuten: Lose low diff. And he have time to est Kamado squad
Against doma and kokou= Lose negg diff and have time to eat kamado squad
What makes u think rengoku beats kaigaku
@@magicpilot5296 The fact that Kaigaku got destroyed easily by Zenitsu?
@@revolverkyosuke7049 didn't muzan get effortlessly obliterated by yoriich. By your logic, he should also be stronger than muzan
@@Rexchuck9968 when was kaigaku stated to be lower moon lvl🤨
@@magicpilot5296 What kind of logic are you applying? 💀
You are saying this like Rengoku is anywhere near Yorrichi's level.
For the Kokushibo vs Rengoku battle, wouldn't Rengoku unlock his mark because Kokushibo has his? In demon slayer, it said “When the marked one arrives, the mark would appear on others around that person as if in resonance.” It still wouldn't mean Rengoku would win but would push his limits and cause Kokushibo to draw his sword and try hold him off for a bit.
The sun breather should awaken it first bro. Also even with Mark Rengoku doesn't stand a chance 😂
To me, I think it would be easy for rengoku since zenistu took care of him easily. And Gyokko he might be able to beat
Gyokko negs him
@@psyhop1195cap
@@Richard.Goff63 gyokko negs every hashira (except gyomei or sanemi maybe) without mark
Thumbnail: Rengoku beating up kokushibo
Video: Kokushibo slicing off rengoku's neck.
Rengoku can defeat upper moon 6 and 5 but he can’t beat upper 4
Rengoku cannot beat upper 6 or upper 5
He ain't beating no upper moons
He cant avoid getting scratched by UM6 and Dies few Minutes after
Tengen, who is officially faster than Kyojuro, was getting outpaced by Gyutaro, Kyojuro aint doing anything and is getting speed blitzed by Gyutaro
In mugan train we see Rengoku can one on one with Akaza for a very long time and almost kill him. Rengoku can cut him arms twice and slash his chest with his flame breathing compare to Giyu with his water breathing cannot hit Akaza a single time flame breathing is insanely powerful only two breathing that i can see is stronger is Moon and Sun. Form his mother Rengoku is born as a talent child. It is truth he don’t have much strength as Mitsuri or Gymei but he still very strong. One more thing he fights Akaza without a weaken mark. If you don’t watch Mugan train movie yet, watch it you can see how strong he is
Experience is knowing what happend in the past not the future, it does not always guarantee that you will win a fight because you have it. Having experience might be an advantage but rational thinking is better because it helps you predict future events without experience.
No offence but I think rengoku would kill kaigaku pretty easily
Fr what is this dude saying
I think too
Bro really said "TENJEN🌟"
If muchiro can beat uppermoon 5 then I think rengoku can beat uppermoon 5
Muichiro needed the Demon Slayer Mark to defeat Gyokko. Rengoku wouldn't have access to it.
Muichiro is stronger than rengoku tho lmao
He literally can't 💀
Marked muichiro>>>> Rengoku 💀💀
@@ZayTh3Godnah at the time of rengokus death he was way stronger than everyone except gyomei and maybe sanemi
@@greybo4034real
Just one thing abt Douma, he CAN'T be serious like ever because of his parents neglecting him as a child or really when he was human
Your thumbnail you should change it
Akaza = donut
Douma = Ice cubes
Kokushibo = shredded meat before they can even blink
Rengoku, due to scaling to a trying Akaza, would defeat anyone from Upper Moon 6 to Upper Moon 5. While I’d say that Daki + Gyutaro COULD give him trouble thanks to their gimmick, I think he’d be able to do so due to his overall strength and power. Gyokko, even while scaling higher, was no diffed by a Marked Muichiro(Who isn’t peak Muichiro), so I’d argue he’d be able to take him down with some difficulty. Unfortunately, I don’t see him beating Hantengu. He has no means of finding the main body and while he’d PROBABLY be able to take on the four emotion clones, the moment Zohakuten gets whipped out he’s getting worn down and exhausted. It’s definitely possible that he may last till Sunrise IF Zohakuten doesn’t get formed, I don’t see him winning regardless.
As for Douma, it’s possible Douma might play with his food a bit too much and he’d last long enough, but if Douma is hungry or is under strict orders to kill, Rengoku’s getting folded like a lawn chair.
Kokushibo is oneshotting him. There’s no other way to put it. He’s flat out oneshotting him.
Not even remotely accurate or true.
Rengoku never scaled or matched Akaza for anything. Don't mistake Rengoku fighting his life/giving it his all and Akaza casually countering him; for Rengoku "keeping up".
He would never win against Gyutaro due to Tengen being the significantly stronger hashira and he couldn't even beat UM 6.
If I had to place the Akaza that Rengoku canonically fought,I'd say Akaza scales somewhere below Gyutaro but above Rengoku. Either that OR the Akaza we see is actually the true extent of Gyutaros(2 eyes) full power therefore meaning Rengoku would require something like a mark just to actually fight UM 6. Either way is very consistent.
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@@dontawilliams8433 I'm right in every way lol.
that scaling is off due to the fact Akaza was toying with Kyojuro and wasnt going serious against him, Kyojuro gets low diffed by Gyutaro, Tengen is officially faster and stronger than Kyojuro, and even he was getting outpaced by Gyutaro, Kyojuro is gonna struggle to keep up against both Gyutaro and Daki, the moment he gets hit, its over.
@@fbi9833 Rengoku is not getting hit by the two of them. Tengen is a straight up perception blitz over Daki if she’s not backed by Gyutaro, and it’s outright confirmed due to not only Tengen’s internal monologue but also a comparison between their feats that Rengoku > Tengen. The “race” and “arm wrestling contest” are completely arbitrary and should not be taken into consideration at all with scaling.
I’ll admit I did overhype Rengoku by saying Akaza was trying throughout the fight. He clearly wasn’t and was actively attempting to goad Rengoku into becoming a demon, only trying when Rengoku had him in a deadlock and would have been killed by the sun if he hadn’t escaped. That being said, proportionately, he is STILL far more skilled and faster than Tengen in terms of combat speed. Tengen may take running speed, but was incapable of blocking Gyutaro’s strike completely when his speed blitz was countered, thus putting Rengoku’s combat speed over Tengen’s.
Akaza, even while treating the fight as a game, is not only still superior to the combined might of Gyutaro and Daki, but also superior to Gyokko as well based on their comparative feats. Muichiro, while marked, was easily able to overwhelm and toy with Gyokko. I do believe that Rengoku would be able to defeat Gyokko handily due to being able to withstand Akaza’s flurries, even if he wasn’t going all out.
That being said, I don’t see Rengoku beating Hantengu. While I think he could deal with the lesser clones, the moment Zohakuten comes out, it’s wraps for our boy. He’s gonna get tired out and ultimately overwhelmed, leading to his death.
That being said, though:
Toying Akaza >= Zohakuten > Rengoku > Gyokko > Gyutaro + Daki > Gyutaro > Tengen > Daki
1:53 Tanjiro cuts all heads of each clone of hantengus body at the swordsmith village arc ☠
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WTF dym by that
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Video summed up: the yappatron 3000 talking about if rengoku would survive or get killed by other uppermoons
Tbh the only upper moon I think rengoku can beat is upper moon 6
Na he beats Gyokko
@@Bumpywithadumpyno he can’t lmao he doesn’t have ds mark
@@ZayTh3God Don’t need it tbh
@@Bumpywithadumpyrengoku is weaker than muichuiro
@@JeevanSuresh-ci4sw Marked yes unmarked no. Also him being weaker than marked mui doesn't mean he can't beat gyokko?
NO WAY IM EARLY PLS REPLY TO ME ITS MY DREAM BRO
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so are we going to forget the fact you added kaigaku the new upper 6 despite the fact he wasnt demon yet, but you couldnt include the biwa women the new upper 4
Douma wouldn't eat everyone since he only eats girls canonically
Hé also eats m'en. He Just enjoy women more. It is his favorite food
The same thing would've happened, just quicker lol
It's not that's he's weak, the Upper Moons are ALL more powerful than any individual hashira(and these are supposed to be the strongest generation of Hashira since Yorichii too).
If you've read the manga, the Uppers only get defeated because
1) they are too arrogant and don't the fight too seriously and give the opponent multiple chances to live(Douma, Gyokko, Gyutaro)
2) They get ganged up on by multiple marked hashira or hashira-level slayers (Hantengu)
3) They become racked with regret and kill themselves(Kokushibo and Azaka).
EXACTLY.
The tanjiro subscribe never gets old
I'm sorry but, without the Mark buff, since Tanjiro hadn't awakened it, he could win Kaigaku, and that's all.
Tengen in base is probably stronger than Rengoku, since he is pretty faster, and he was a way better matchup against Gyutaro, having poison resistance and two blades, Rengoku can't win against this poison.
Gyokko is debatable, except Kaigaku, he's the least lethal Upper moon for a human to fight. His poison isn't as ruthless as Gyutaro. We can't say that Rengoku is stronger than Marked Muichiro, but as Gyokko got owned, Rengoku could maybe do something. Plus his breathing style is much more destructive, so he should be able to break the water pot. However, Gyokko could win if he doesn't find a way to be distracted(he could be with Tanjiro and the others).
All the others upper moons are too strong for a non-marked individual to handle, Zohakuten would win in attrition, as even marked Mitsuri couodn't fight him and find the lil one, and ofc, Akaza, Doma and Kokushibo manhandle him.
I love Rengoku, but there's so little you can do without a mark and poison resistance
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That thumbnail got me laughing
fr the thumbnail is next level glazing
Considering Gyokko's horrid habits of getting angered and distracted very easily, I think rengoku would win
A W vid like always
Thumbnail would be the other way around right?
you forgot that kaigaku got oblitareted by not even a hashira
Rengoku with the mark, see through world and red sword would be insane,mby even second to Gyome
no bro. Sanemi is stronger and faster than rengoku in base form so. If sanemi got all this then sanemi would as great as gyomei.
@@hazardEXE27 well that was 2 years after rengokus death.. by that time rengoku would have gone through hashira training+ as akaza mentioned his skills would peak after 2 years.. so that means rengokus prime would be when the final battle takes place.. the only advantage sanemi have over rengoku is that he is a marechi
@@greybo4034 here is some official fanbook info for you clearification:
In unmarked state Sanemi is the 2nd fastest hashira .So with mark Sanemi is the fastest hashira......(Note Here its speed without breathing technique.So with breathing sanemi next level fast)..
Whereas Rengoku is 5th fastest in unmarked state......See the different...
Also there are few condition to awaken the mark ..So even if Rengoku train 5 years then also he can't awaken mark because centain condition is required..
Also was not trying hard in megun train battle.....
Akaza can easily kill rengoku in secs in that fight but he choose not to..
So read manga, Fanbook and data book before saying any comments...
I have an idea for another video:
What if Gyutaro was the only Upper Rank 6?
hed be stronger, Muzan confirmed daki was holding back Gyutaros potential, so without Daki there he would be even stronger and possibly a higher rank
5:37 "strenght"
Correction for Gyutard and Donkey: You dont have to cut their heads at the same time, you just have to make sure both of their heads are cut off. So if Goku sliced off Donkey's head, he can cut off Gyuutards head later as long as Donkey doesn't reattach her head.
goku, gyutard and donkey. nice named
these names have me laughing goku donkey and gyutard
goku would end demon slayer low diff wdym
@@huhhhhhh5225 I'm talking about Rengoku, not Goku Goku.
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Don’t laugh dude, probably got trolled by auto correct
Zenitsu would of slashed the first one too bits once he's learned he killed his pops.
What are all the songs called in the video?
I see a reference to this video’s thumbnail: Garou killed Mumen rider by smashing mumen rider’s face to the ground and the pic u showed like: what’s wrong?
7:26 zenitsu 😂😂😂
Rengoku's pov encountering douma:
HII YAAAAA
Douma's pov: my toy is tickling me
rengoku: 9TH FORM: RENGOKUUUUUU
douma: bad toy>:(
slaps rengoku effortlessly
rengoku💀
also i think the demons will take longer to come and gives rengoku and tanjiro time to prepare or even call another hashira to help since muzan only called akaza since hes the closest to them.
Guys hear me out ok . Ok just imagine that Rengoku had ice breathing ok this is how the fight would go if Rengoku fought douma with his ice breathing. It's like ice demon vs ice hashira this fight will be to die for it . Ok so let me tell U all the 4 moves of ice breathing first is frosted flakes this is where Rengoku is sword has spikes and this move gives Rengoku the ability to move in the most thick ice cold place with ease and could kill upper moon 6 since the spikes on his blade makes Rengoku move faster than the speed of sound . Second move is thick ice waves this move is where the spikes are used less and hand power is used more so in this move it's enough to kill upper moon 6 and 4 this is because this move is where Rengoku swings his sword so hard it makes the air in the room super thick and when Rengoku goes for the demon he disappears into thin air this is because his speed in this like the speed of sun breathing and he always the demon in 1sec also this move is enough to leave 6/7 scars on upper moon 3 also this move isn't like the strongest yet . I will do part 2 when this gets 2 likes 😊 8:57
The effects of all the breathing styles are just cosmetical, rengoku would need a BDA to create ice sickles and to make the air cold and thick. I like the idea of ice breathing, yet Douma would still win because Douma is just better in every aspect than any hashira. (even than marked gyomei)
@@OhPepper no like U see shinoubu has poison in her sword ryt so Rengoku would have much nitrogen or hydrogen something like that in his sword so if he uses super much strength then the mixture comes out and spreads like a gas
@@kycapedtior Yeah, that would make more sense, but I don’t know if nitrogen was a thing in Japan in that era. Still I’d have loved to see an ice breathing hashira and your idea is kinda what I thought it would look like 👍
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But Nichirin swords don’t contain that. Shinobu’s sword was made specifically for her.
people act like Rengoku was weak, when the dude A.
had been fighting all night blazing through the train.
Had a training regiment that none of the other Hashira wanted to do.
including the love hashira
Yo Yagerist Please Do What If Guts was In Mugain Train?
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Did you mean Tengen is not Tenjen💀
This content creator forgets to add "I think..In my opinion" at the beginning of every sentence..how is my guy explaining it like it actually happened while its all headcanon. The audacity put it as if its the only truth trully amuses me.
awesome
I wish you covered the scenario of if he unlocked the mark
Flame hashira can certainly beat Gyokko’s water based attacks. He can certainly beat most of hantengu’s forms but will have trouble finding killing his main body. Gyotaro may be difficult but certainly possible
You're right to an extent.
Rengoku would get bodied by Gyutaro but he can fight pot form Gyokko.