I’d be lost without my Spark fix. Lol. Trains have always been a huge interest of mine, so being able to see documentary brings me back to my childhood. lol. I learned a good bit about trains I didn’t know so thank you Spark!! Keep these incredible videos coming!! Much love from Arizona.
Now imagine if all 6 of the surviving A4s were restored into LNER condition. In LNER Garter Blue, red wheels and side valance and were all reunited yet again. That would be the greatest sight ever.
I was at the National Railway Museum in 1989 or 90. They were pulling out the Dwight D Eisenhower for a trip to Texas to commemorate Eisenhower's 100th Birthday. The Diesel Switcher used to pull out the DDH had a chimney fire in its stack and shot flame out of it for about 20-30 feet in the air until it burned out. I caught it on video.
Great video, glad to see that the trains were fixed up. They needed it and now they will be around for another 75+ years, but I hope they keep them in better shape this time.
Trainspotters in England & Scotland knicknamed the A4' s "STREAKS" . Their unmistakable steam whistle alerted the trainspotters to an incoming streak . Pen & notebook ready , camera too. Fortunate to spot all of them pass through Retford, Nottinghamshire very early 1960's.
You were wealthy John to afford a camera in those days! Going back to those times the A4's always gave a long chime before tearing through Doncaster my spotting ground from '61 to' 63 then girls seemed more interesting than grimy steam locomotives.
It didn't run, why not build a building around it? You'd rather they just left it outside? You can't fly the Spirit of Saint Louis out of the Smithsonian either.
Because here instead of just storing them away, we rebuild them and put them back to steam... The only things permanently stored are those things that will never be able to be restored.
@@Malakie what's the big deal? It took them less than two days to get it out of there. And that thing is a national treasure, fat chance of it ever getting pressed into service again.
Congrats to Andrew Goodman and his Magnificent Movers!!! What a Project! What a Task! What an Achievement!!! Incredible story, brilliant vid. Am i safe to assume these two Fabulous Engines are back home in York? But well done Guys that was awesome way beyond any financial aspect.
Tbh amreica steam locomotives are bigger plus ths biggest locomotive to made in the world is big boy which was made in the usa and owned by Union Pacific
Because that ship has sailed long ago. Starting a new train building company out of scratch in this modern era needs a huge investment and years of development. Plus UK is to small to compete with the big boys on the mainland. Siemens, Stadler, Alstom. Not even to mention the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans. Once a certain industry is gone it will never return. And it’s not like there are no more factories in the UK, they are just owned by Bombardier and Alstom now
@@railgatekeeper6337 Like most things made today lots of parts are made offshore. Think eaven the boiler was made in the old East Germany. Also think the main drive rods from China.
@@thomashambly3718 . There is 6 A4 trains; Mallard, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Dominion of Canada, Bittern, Sir Nigel Gresley and Union of South Africa. I remember seeing them all both at Shildon and York when the 75th anniversary events were occurring.
there's 6, and they were ALL on display at Shildon, before a few went to York. I was able to see them all on display at the same time, one was even giving rides up and down the track as it's still functional.
Lol the title and upload date had me thinking they were taking Dominion of Canada and Eisenhower around for a tour, then I realized it was just The Great Gathering event
@@DistanceNsVeterans He still tried to use his strength / weight to stop the locos. That is an instinctive habit you must consciously break otherwise you could lose fingers or worse.
I do believe in the last century the USA has sent a good deal of heavy equipment to England that wasn't returned to us in pristine condition either. Let's not quibble on details..
They hadn't been touched since they left the UK back in the 1960s, apart from 60008 being grit blasted and repainted in an incorrect shade of green. 60008 couldn't really move from it's location and 60010 was due to be restored in Canada but for some reason didn't go ahead. The NRM did a great job restoring them, hopefully the Americans and Canadians will look after them better now.
@@Frserthegreenengine I understand that they are a source of national pride (and rightly so), we have that also with our own locomotives like the Big Boy's that we've restored.
all steam locomotives have boiler tickets, once they expire they can either be taken out of service for an overhaul (can take several years) or be withdrawn completely from service
43:28 and I can imagine that Dominion of Canada would say this after she sees her brothers Mallard and Sir Nigel Gresley "ha Blue is not a bad colour for an A4 definitely better than my original Green"
It would have been nice for this video not to be so over dramatic as is the current trend in documentaries and not like a PR film for the haulage company. All that's missing is what would happen if the ship sank mid Atlantic. Towards the end when the bloke said the transporter was doing less than a mile to the gallon, previously the height of the loco chimneys against motorway bridges, keep up the spin lads................ I'll watch it again though just to see these wonderful locomotives but with the volume turned off.
Now if engines could talk I bet Dwight D Eisenhower and Dominion of Canada would probably say after getting off the ship "oh it's nice to be home" even though they probably would now see those museums in both America and Canada as their homes now
I wonder if the National Railway Museum has the American 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" in its collection? Railway Museums just isn't complete without one in stock. Even though its impossible, due to gauge differences, it would be nice to see a "Big Boy" making its run along the British Railway, through some beautiful scenery. 😍
@@Quapple855 they didn’t take the A4s, they borrowed them for the event. Both locomotives are back in the North American museums they were in at the beginning of the episode.
@@spencerwilton5831 Fair enough. It wouldn't do well on our East Coast railways either for the same reasons. It was built for the wide open spaces of the West.
It is just a shame it was a cosmetic rebuild, it would have been great to return them in full working order. It is also a shame the other three locomotives that were named after former parts of the British empire were not gifted to them.
@@donaldharlan3981 So the A4's named after India, New Zealand and Australia were nit scrapped then? The two returned to North America were returned in full working order?
Not all mallard is in York and bitten is in Margate Dwight D Eisenhower is in America and Dominion of Canada is in Canada but hey are all English as they where built in Doncaster Works .
USA is privately owned in the UK and the owner is removing it from mainline running now. Not sure where it was at the time of filming. Not sure about the locations of the other two
@@joncoe9046 far as I can tell from wiki. Union of South Africa is under overhaul or something? Cuz boiler ticket being expired Sir Nigel Gresley is still under over haul
You know when the video is in the UK. Nothing but safety vests as far as the eye can see. Waiting for them to be required to cross a street and when walking on sidewalks.
Oh she definitely could be. But would probably be to the sum of around £7000.000 (As a rough guess off the estimates of both Tornado and Scotsmen) It would have to be dismantled. Every component checked (And replaced if needed). Replacements of cylinders. Replacement of Boiler. Replacements of safety valves. Its not a never say never job. But at the moment only two A4 Engines are running (Bittern - Union of South Africa). And one is under restoration Sir Nigel Gresley. And Locomotive Restoration generally takes two to five years as an average. Hope this helps answer your question :)
@@adrian-jg3ei Ah apologise i didn't realise. Yeah you are correct. Moved to the Horny Site 2 - 3 years back,. Will be nice to see them to main line condition i hope. Had the honnor of stepping on Mallards footplate a decade ago. Beautiful engines
@@delveinwithdamo And when you replace everything you end up with the "Grandpa's Axe" paradox- where you've replaced the handle and the head, but it's still think it's your grandpa's axe..
@@delveinwithdamo Soon it will just be Bittern and Sir Nigel Gresley running in the UK. Sir Nigel Gresley's restoration is due to be completed next year (hopefully), it was delayed by a year due to the pandemic. Bittern is in an overhaul queue as Crewe are currently restoring 70000 Britannia and 60532 Blue Peter. Union of South Africa's Mainline certificate expired and it running it's final days of it's boiler certificate at the East Lancashire Railway and is due to be retired permanently and put in a farming museum built by it's owner John Cameron in Fife, Scotland. I don't like the sound of it being permanently withdrawn but it is his loco after all and sadly this could happen to a lot of preserved Steam locos as they are becoming more expensive to maintain and overhaul. At least Bittern and Sir Nigel Gresley will still be running.
Seems like a whole lot of time and work(money) spent to reunite and restore the A4's. There was already one there, probably the most famous one, how many do you need to look at? The museum must be very well funded. I just wonder if the money could have been better spent on something more lasting and enjoyable for every one. I have never been there, myself being across the "pond", and I don't know how large the model railway is there, but I know some stand alone world class mega model railways are big tourist attractions. That might have been an idea, to expand the model railway, if they had money burning a hole in their pockets.
Guessing you didn't even hear the beginning it was done to bring all 6 of the remaining A4s back together for the first time since the 60s to celebrate mallards 75 years since breaking the record and only 3 was shown in the vid the other 3 was still out running on the mainline including 90mph runnings made by Bitten which is the first time that's happened in mainline rail tours along with that the NRM made an offer to keep them over here and possibly get them back to mainline standards which is a shame it didn't happen cause 7 years down the line we have no A4s running at all Bitterns boiler ticket ran out and is still awaiting restoration Union of South Africa just had her boiler ticket ran out and is not getting restored and going into static display like mallard and Sir Nigel Greasley is in the middle of being restored but still some time off from her returning
@@stephenallmond67 Yes I got all that. My point was that had to cost a fortune and I wonder if that much cash could have been better used in some other way. They all ready had the Mallard available on site and could have gotten it and kept it in running condition. Just how many of the A4's do you need to look at?
legally the official standards of measurement in the UK is metric but in reality its a mixture of imperial and metric, in many cases such as the road and rail networks they keep using imperial measurements as that was the standards agreed on and the costs on changing them outweigh the benefits. there's also some other instances where imperial is still used just cause that's what people are accustomed to e.g. most supermarkets sell milk by the pint
The British used to use Imperial measurements for everything, but then gradually moved to metrics. But de facto, most Brits use both measurements, depends what you are measuring, speed and distance we tend to use Imperial systems, everything else we tend to use metrics.
Spencer: "I say my dear Dominion Of Canada, how have you been?" Dominion Of Canada: "Jolly good old chap, how have the duke and duchess of Boxford been treating you?" Spencer: "Grandly my old boy, and how is our brother, Dwight D. Eisenhower doing? Dominion Of Canada: "Let him speak for himself" Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Spencer? Is that really you?" Spencer: "Yes, my dear brother, how have you been?" Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Oh marvelous, you should really visit Green Bay sometime, maybe if the Duke and Duchess of Boxford decide to visit North America, you can suggest going with them and taking them to Green Bay next time they want to visit another continent" Spencer: "Do they have steamies there?" Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Why of course they do, I share a big home with the worlds largest steam locomotive, well one of the eight remaining largest steam locomotives in the world" Spencer: "Who's that may I ask" Dwight D. Eisenhower: "His name is Big Boy" Spencer: "That is a grand name for the worlds largest locomotive I must say" Dwight D. Eisenhower: "How is our sister Mallard doing? Me and Dominion Of Canada haven't seen her since 1966" Spencer: "Oh she is fine, she was restored to full working order in 1980, but she hasn't been under steam since 1988" Dwight D. Eisenhower "Its good to see you again, maybe you can visit us in North America someday" Spencer: "I certainly will"
@@nikerailfanningttm9046 Spencer: did you hear that our cousin Flying Scotsman isn't the only A3 left in the world an A3 actually lives on an island called Sodor off the coast of England named Gordon and he thinks he's faster than us everyone knows the A4's are the fastest steam locomotives in the world
While i like watching these heavy moves i do get tired/sick of the constant sudo danger being narateted 13 minuets ish in it's possible it could hit a support briging the building down ...???? really is it barrelling down the track at 100mph NO it is moving sideways at less that 1mph COME ON !!!!
I did not see the American a4s in the uk during 2013 because I had my d of e expeditions, my uni graduation in Southampton and my big holiday to Scotland at the time but in 2015 I went to Montreal to see dominion and in 2018 I went to Green Bay via Chicago to see Dwight D Eisenhower.
Imagine driving a car a thousand miles with bearings that haven't turned in 40+ years and instead of grease, have nothing but off-the-shelf silicone spray lubricant. Obviously, you can't change a steam locomotives wheel bearings as easily as one might replace their automobile bearings. They were, however, brought back on their own wheels since they were both mostly restored while across the pond.
in the US the issues are with the couplings. In the UK the issue is with the disconnection of main lines due to Beaching cuts (due to the Railway and Canal Transport Act 1856 not being repealed until 1968 when it should have been repealed between 1921-1945 to give Britains Railways a chance of surviving the growth of the road industry)
I remember being in Canada around the time the dominion came back. She came back more beautiful than when she left
she was in the worst condition of them all some parts fell off when they removed the tape
@@jakeandfriends3554 lol
@@derekheeps8012 ?
The Canadians mistreated her
Don’t listen to the 2 people above me ^
I’d be lost without my Spark fix. Lol. Trains have always been a huge interest of mine, so being able to see documentary brings me back to my childhood. lol. I learned a good bit about trains I didn’t know so thank you Spark!! Keep these incredible videos coming!! Much love from Arizona.
Trains also have been a huge interest for me as well :D
Now imagine if all 6 of the surviving A4s were restored into LNER condition. In LNER Garter Blue, red wheels and side valance and were all reunited yet again. That would be the greatest sight ever.
16:40 Did that man just try to push the locomotive to stop it? He could easily have lost his fingers.
Maybe he has superpowers
It’s magnificent to see the other a4s to join up with the others for the first time ever since the 1960s
And too bad that no song has been made for this episode because these two locos remind me of "Train from Bloemfontein
I like this episode. I really love A4 pacific's
This is why IRM (Illinois railway museum) was built with tracks to every shed and inside. They knew that they might face this challenge eventually
that place is great
@@deadmanwillyimbothdeadandalive yea
I was at the National Railway Museum in 1989 or 90. They were pulling out the Dwight D Eisenhower for a trip to Texas to commemorate Eisenhower's 100th Birthday. The Diesel Switcher used to pull out the DDH had a chimney fire in its stack and shot flame out of it for about 20-30 feet in the air until it burned out. I caught it on video.
Great video, glad to see that the trains were fixed up. They needed it and now they will be around for another 75+ years, but I hope they keep them in better shape this time.
I was lucky enough to see the Great Gathering and its interesting to know how the locos were transported
I saw it too,brilliant..only bettered by seeing the three Lancaster bombers at East Kirkby 2014.
@@deanj846 wow! I've never seen 3 together but I have only seen the Battle of Britain memorial flight at airshows .
I want when they had the great gathering. Arguably the best visit I've had there
Beautiful trains their place in history is restored thank you for the video from San Diego California!
Trainspotters in England & Scotland knicknamed the A4' s "STREAKS" . Their unmistakable steam whistle alerted the trainspotters to an incoming streak . Pen & notebook ready , camera too. Fortunate to spot all of them pass through Retford, Nottinghamshire very early 1960's.
You were wealthy John to afford a camera in those days! Going back to those times the A4's always gave a long chime before tearing through Doncaster my spotting ground from '61 to' 63 then girls seemed more interesting than grimy steam locomotives.
I love this guy. He is serius and funny at the same time.
I thought at the time they incarcerated Dwight D E and the other locos in here with no means to remove them that it was ludicrously short sighted.
It's not alone. I know of at least one other loco that had the museum building constructed around it
America.... You know what, im not finishing the sentence, you figure it out
It didn't run, why not build a building around it? You'd rather they just left it outside? You can't fly the Spirit of Saint Louis out of the Smithsonian either.
Because here instead of just storing them away, we rebuild them and put them back to steam... The only things permanently stored are those things that will never be able to be restored.
@@Malakie what's the big deal? It took them less than two days to get it out of there. And that thing is a national treasure, fat chance of it ever getting pressed into service again.
An A4 and Big Boy under the same roof! It doesn't get much better than that...
With a GG1 as well!!! I've lived my entire life within a half hour of these massive machines. Absolutely incredible collection to have so nearby.
@@18jotesch ditto
The Unlucky Tug's information during his Flying Scotsman: USA Tour video brought me here.
11:25
That’s not the brake, it’s the reverser
Fiddling with it won’t help at all
Congrats to Andrew Goodman and his Magnificent Movers!!! What a Project! What a Task! What an Achievement!!! Incredible story, brilliant vid. Am i safe to assume these two Fabulous Engines are back home in York? But well done Guys that was awesome way beyond any financial aspect.
People: about to but the engine on the track.
Weather: ima stop you right there
I love this series
40:18 imagine being in that bus, you look out of the window and see a big ass steam engine going pass
Tbh amreica steam locomotives are bigger plus ths biggest locomotive to made in the world is big boy which was made in the usa and owned by Union Pacific
@@DistanceNsVeterans true but it's not everyday that you see an A4 class loco going by, to kids is basically Spencer in a different paint job.
@@annoyingginger5077 hmm good point
This is an awesome video!
So much innovation, know-how and craftsmanship, why are we not building our own train engines anymore, we can if the will is there.
Because that ship has sailed long ago. Starting a new train building company out of scratch in this modern era needs a huge investment and years of development. Plus UK is to small to compete with the big boys on the mainland. Siemens, Stadler, Alstom. Not even to mention the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans. Once a certain industry is gone it will never return. And it’s not like there are no more factories in the UK, they are just owned by Bombardier and Alstom now
In the uk there are still making new steam locomotives
@@NicksPokeStop tornado, prince of wales, you get it, don't you? yes. yes, they are.
@@railgatekeeper6337 Like most things made today lots of parts are made offshore.
Think eaven the boiler was made in the old East Germany.
Also think the main drive rods from China.
The description is wrong, They were hauled to NRM Shildon, not NRM York, the two NRMs are around 100 miles apart
“The A4’s are considered by many to be the ultimate steam locomotives”
The duchess’s: “are we a joke to you?”
The A4's are the pretty ones. The Duchess's had to have the brut force. I wonder what speed the Duchess's could have reached on the racing track?
And the Hiawatha 4-4-2s and 4-6-4s are... And then there are the Pennsy T1s... Just saying.
America laughing in 4014
@@baileydevries4494 in terms of hauling tonnage at least.
Want to impress me?
How about moving 4017 to the UK?
That’s impossible
it aint gonna happend without 4017 bumping everything because of her large loading gauge!
Might be too heavy for UK tracks.
I saw all 4 of them in 2014 at the railway museum, awesome sight.
Theres 5 of them
@@thomashambly3718 . There is 6 A4 trains; Mallard, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Dominion of Canada, Bittern, Sir Nigel Gresley and Union of South Africa. I remember seeing them all both at Shildon and York when the 75th anniversary events were occurring.
@@wuzzt149 damn I forgot gresley was still around
there's 6, and they were ALL on display at Shildon, before a few went to York. I was able to see them all on display at the same time, one was even giving rides up and down the track as it's still functional.
Lol the title and upload date had me thinking they were taking Dominion of Canada and Eisenhower around for a tour, then I realized it was just The Great Gathering event
Dominion of Canada: look they even gave me a new Bell in front of my whistle something that all of the engines back in Canada have.
16:37 I can't believe this guy actually tried to use his palm to stop the locos from coming together. That could've ended really badly for him. .🤦🏻♂️
Hes hand wasnt really in the middle of the buffer ot was on the edge
@@DistanceNsVeterans
He still tried to use his strength / weight to stop the locos.
That is an instinctive habit you must consciously break otherwise you could lose fingers or worse.
@@jtveg eh
The a4 is like the “Spitfire” plane. Amazing (the yanks get so jealous)🤣🇬🇧👍
See, thats why you always build your museums out of old stations.
if it doesn't say in the video pacific refers to the wheel arrangement on the locomotives; 4-6-2
That’s pretty awesome info! I didn’t know that. Thank you for sharing!
@@sectech221 they were called Pacifics because they were bigger than Atlantics which were a 4-4-2 wheel arrangement
I've been to expo rail about 5 times in my life, if ever you get the cahnce to go there, I recommend you do so. You won't regret it.
The state the A4s 60008+ 60010 were in when they came over from the USA and Canada were disgusting! Its a pity we let them go back.
I do believe in the last century the USA has sent a good deal of heavy equipment to England that wasn't returned to us in pristine condition either. Let's not quibble on details..
They hadn't been touched since they left the UK back in the 1960s, apart from 60008 being grit blasted and repainted in an incorrect shade of green. 60008 couldn't really move from it's location and 60010 was due to be restored in Canada but for some reason didn't go ahead. The NRM did a great job restoring them, hopefully the Americans and Canadians will look after them better now.
@@Frserthegreenengine I understand that they are a source of national pride (and rightly so), we have that also with our own locomotives like the Big Boy's that we've restored.
@@darrellsmith4204 indeed they are.
And thats just the A4s they took less care of the flying Scotsman when she was over there
Thanks very much....Awesome...!
So was the Dwight D Eisenhower brought back here to the US or was it left
Returned to the Wisconsin museum in 2014 according to an article in USA Today
Fantastic story, thanks.
A steam locomotive that no longer has a working engine.....interesting
tends to happen when it's laid up for almost 50 years
Steam locos don't have engines. They have boilers.
To be fair, none of the the working ones are 100% original.
When the locomotive that can't run means that it could explode
all steam locomotives have boiler tickets, once they expire they can either be taken out of service for an overhaul (can take several years) or be withdrawn completely from service
23:25 Halifax was the inspiration for Big Harbour in Theodore Tugboat
It's also where bodies from the Titanic washed up.
That's ALMOST as fast as a 1907 Stanley Steamer.
43:28 and I can imagine that Dominion of Canada would say this after she sees her brothers Mallard and Sir Nigel Gresley "ha Blue is not a bad colour for an A4 definitely better than my original Green"
Can’t believe he would try and stop a try with his body
Great video 🏆
I remember seeing the Flying Scotsman parked on the railway viaduct over Prince Street here in Grafton NSW in 1988
I personally think this will happen again 10 years later due to both museums planning to remove the locomotives due to their asbestos lagging
It would have been nice for this video not to be so over dramatic as is the current trend in documentaries and not like a PR film for the haulage company. All that's missing is what would happen if the ship sank mid Atlantic. Towards the end when the bloke said the transporter was doing less than a mile to the gallon, previously the height of the loco chimneys against motorway bridges, keep up the spin lads................ I'll watch it again though just to see these wonderful locomotives but with the volume turned off.
16:41 Did he really put his hand between two trains? I mean... I'm not an expert but that's how accidents happen!
4:40 is thad a gg1?
Yes
Now if engines could talk I bet Dwight D Eisenhower and Dominion of Canada would probably say after getting off the ship "oh it's nice to be home" even though they probably would now see those museums in both America and Canada as their homes now
I wonder if the National Railway Museum has the American 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" in its collection? Railway Museums just isn't complete without one in stock. Even though its impossible, due to gauge differences, it would be nice to see a "Big Boy" making its run along the British Railway, through some beautiful scenery. 😍
They may take our A4, but they sure as hell aren't taking our 4017.
@@Quapple855 they didn’t take the A4s, they borrowed them for the event. Both locomotives are back in the North American museums they were in at the beginning of the episode.
British and American railroad gauges are the same, at 4 feet, 8-1/2 inches.
S. SESTRIC Just because it would fit between the tracks doesn't mean it would fit through our tunnels, bridges or corners for that matter.
@@spencerwilton5831 Fair enough. It wouldn't do well on our East Coast railways either for the same reasons. It was built for the wide open spaces of the West.
I love British steam locomotives. British steam for live
Didn't this happen in 2013
can someone explain to me the colour change and the addition of the side skirts to the dominion?
They restored it to how it was originally made and painted back in 1937
the side skirt were to help reduce drag
While of course a different ship, a famous (for us Brits) ship name shows up.
One built in Belfast and finished in 1912 ??
Even though its a bit old least its in good quality and sometimes it makes the difference
I hardly think 7 years is that old
isnt this the smae voice actor for big bigger biggest?
27:47 Those noises make me uncomfortable... I love Timpanis.
If in doubt drive into with the forklift
And then they had to do it all over again a few years later to put 'em back.
The movers must be related to the Keystone Kops.
I have plans to see Dominion of Canada, I live in Ontario. Canada so it’s just about a 13 hour drive
It still seems like yesterday when I went to the great gathering for my 9th birthday
I was there too at Shildon, it was magnificent!
It was
But why is it being sent back to UK?
Have you not watched the video??
I just want to see one of these shows where one of those catastrophic "IF"s actually happens. I'd pay to watch that...
Is these a permanent loan, or will they have to reverse the procedures?
I hope the A4 comes back to Green Bay, I'm gonna miss that thing
This took place in 2013, both locomotives are back in North America
they were built in Great Britain and therefore Belong over here in the Uk
@@PikaChu22456 the Esinhauer was a gift to the US after WW2, I don't think you just demand gifts back because you bought or made them.
@@PikaChu22456 ok then, give us the USA dock tanks, and the other locomotives send over from the us to the uk during WW2.
Amazing Craft !! Dominion of Canada looks better.
indeed
It is just a shame it was a cosmetic rebuild, it would have been great to return them in full working order. It is also a shame the other three locomotives that were named after former parts of the British empire were not gifted to them.
@@alexwright6038 unfortunately, none of that is historically correct.
@@donaldharlan3981 So the A4's named after India, New Zealand and Australia were nit scrapped then? The two returned to North America were returned in full working order?
@@alexwright6038 that's correct.
Are they all still in York today?
Nope this was back in like 2013. Both A4s are back in their respective homes here in the Americas.
Not all mallard is in York and bitten is in Margate Dwight D Eisenhower is in America and Dominion of Canada is in Canada but hey are all English as they where built in Doncaster Works .
@@reyflash12 well 60008 is not far from where I live
@@kingofthemonsters3712 yes but here English locomotives.
30:24 cool car
Wait when was this filmed
2012-2013
Dominion of Canada: yuck! freight cars! they're touching me! get 'em away!
Where are other A4s?
Yeah? Union of south Africa definately wasnt there. Didnt see if bittern and sir nigel Gresley were there too.
@@joncoe9046 yea so... where they are now?
USA is privately owned in the UK and the owner is removing it from mainline running now. Not sure where it was at the time of filming. Not sure about the locations of the other two
@@joncoe9046 far as I can tell from wiki. Union of South Africa is under overhaul or something? Cuz boiler ticket being expired
Sir Nigel Gresley is still under over haul
@@joncoe9046 They were all at the event. SNG is currently under overhaul at York, and Bittern is in storage at Margate.
“You drive on the wrong side of the road, it’s a well known fact”
Says the guy standing in Green Bay...
Wouldn't be awesome if the A4s in North America were operational?
I think it would be a "Fire Hazard"
it would need many american standard to be applied to the A4s to run
Wonderful locomotives. Pity about the rolling stock.
They both look very good but it almost seems a shame to repaint the dominion of Canada scenes it had some of its original paint left still
did he miss lady gaga in dublin? :(
Brits should build replicas without inner complicated pipes and other nonvisible parts.
You know when the video is in the UK. Nothing but safety vests as far as the eye can see. Waiting for them to be required to cross a street and when walking on sidewalks.
Why cant she ever be restored to operation?
Oh she definitely could be. But would probably be to the sum of around £7000.000 (As a rough guess off the estimates of both Tornado and Scotsmen) It would have to be dismantled. Every component checked (And replaced if needed). Replacements of cylinders. Replacement of Boiler. Replacements of safety valves.
Its not a never say never job. But at the moment only two A4 Engines are running (Bittern - Union of South Africa). And one is under restoration Sir Nigel Gresley. And Locomotive Restoration generally takes two to five years as an average. Hope this helps answer your question :)
@@delveinwithdamo Bittern isn't running since 2015. It awaits restoration to working condition ever since.
@@adrian-jg3ei Ah apologise i didn't realise. Yeah you are correct. Moved to the Horny Site 2 - 3 years back,. Will be nice to see them to main line condition i hope. Had the honnor of stepping on Mallards footplate a decade ago. Beautiful engines
@@delveinwithdamo And when you replace everything you end up with the "Grandpa's Axe" paradox- where you've replaced the handle and the head, but it's still think it's your grandpa's axe..
@@delveinwithdamo Soon it will just be Bittern and Sir Nigel Gresley running in the UK. Sir Nigel Gresley's restoration is due to be completed next year (hopefully), it was delayed by a year due to the pandemic. Bittern is in an overhaul queue as Crewe are currently restoring 70000 Britannia and 60532 Blue Peter.
Union of South Africa's Mainline certificate expired and it running it's final days of it's boiler certificate at the East Lancashire Railway and is due to be retired permanently and put in a farming museum built by it's owner John Cameron in Fife, Scotland. I don't like the sound of it being permanently withdrawn but it is his loco after all and sadly this could happen to a lot of preserved Steam locos as they are becoming more expensive to maintain and overhaul. At least Bittern and Sir Nigel Gresley will still be running.
Seems like a whole lot of time and work(money) spent to reunite and restore the A4's. There was already one there, probably the most famous one, how many do you need to look at? The museum must be very well funded.
I just wonder if the money could have been better spent on something more lasting and enjoyable for every one. I have never been there, myself being across the "pond", and I don't know how large the model railway is there, but I know some stand alone world class mega model railways are big tourist attractions. That might have been an idea, to expand the model railway, if they had money burning a hole in their pockets.
Guessing you didn't even hear the beginning it was done to bring all 6 of the remaining A4s back together for the first time since the 60s to celebrate mallards 75 years since breaking the record and only 3 was shown in the vid the other 3 was still out running on the mainline including 90mph runnings made by Bitten which is the first time that's happened in mainline rail tours along with that the NRM made an offer to keep them over here and possibly get them back to mainline standards which is a shame it didn't happen cause 7 years down the line we have no A4s running at all Bitterns boiler ticket ran out and is still awaiting restoration Union of South Africa just had her boiler ticket ran out and is not getting restored and going into static display like mallard and Sir Nigel Greasley is in the middle of being restored but still some time off from her returning
@@stephenallmond67 Yes I got all that. My point was that had to cost a fortune and I wonder if that much cash could have been better used in some other way. They all ready had the Mallard available on site and could have gotten it and kept it in running condition. Just how many of the A4's do you need to look at?
@@johnstudd4245 all the ones that are still preserved maybe
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well there is second pracific in Gresley's family the A3 pracifics or flying scotcman
I think the 2nd preserved is tornado
That is a different class@@SalmanMentos
@@mary.of.mares.1470 i forgot lol
But some a3 are just rebuilt a1
@@SalmanMentos yeah but Tornado is a Peppercprn A1 and Gresley A1 aren't the same class
@@mary.of.mares.1470 ok
Them move right international guys was rushing this job not even taken there time and letting the loco rush forwards
23:47 Diesel 10's horn from Thomas and Philip and Fillmore's horn from Theodore tugboat
That’s a stock horn sound, it is used a lot by different people
is eisenhower back at america now
Yes both were returned back to their home museums a year or so later
Green Bay is not one of the oldest cities is the US.
Why not send it to be refurbished?
they were at the end
39:15. 16'-6"? I thought you guys used Meters...
we do now, but we didnt use to. hence why america uses feet...
legally the official standards of measurement in the UK is metric but in reality its a mixture of imperial and metric, in many cases such as the road and rail networks they keep using imperial measurements as that was the standards agreed on and the costs on changing them outweigh the benefits. there's also some other instances where imperial is still used just cause that's what people are accustomed to e.g. most supermarkets sell milk by the pint
@@james123212 British standard pipe thread is the world standard, except in the USA.
The British used to use Imperial measurements for everything, but then gradually moved to metrics. But de facto, most Brits use both measurements, depends what you are measuring, speed and distance we tend to use Imperial systems, everything else we tend to use metrics.
I wonder if Spencer attended the event in the Thomas and Friends the universe
Spencer: "I say my dear Dominion Of Canada, how have you been?"
Dominion Of Canada: "Jolly good old chap, how have the duke and duchess of Boxford been treating you?"
Spencer: "Grandly my old boy, and how is our brother, Dwight D. Eisenhower doing?
Dominion Of Canada: "Let him speak for himself"
Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Spencer? Is that really you?"
Spencer: "Yes, my dear brother, how have you been?"
Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Oh marvelous, you should really visit Green Bay sometime, maybe if the Duke and Duchess of Boxford decide to visit North America, you can suggest going with them and taking them to Green Bay next time they want to visit another continent"
Spencer: "Do they have steamies there?"
Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Why of course they do, I share a big home with the worlds largest steam locomotive, well one of the eight remaining largest steam locomotives in the world"
Spencer: "Who's that may I ask"
Dwight D. Eisenhower: "His name is Big Boy"
Spencer: "That is a grand name for the worlds largest locomotive I must say"
Dwight D. Eisenhower: "How is our sister Mallard doing? Me and Dominion Of Canada haven't seen her since 1966"
Spencer: "Oh she is fine, she was restored to full working order in 1980, but she hasn't been under steam since 1988"
Dwight D. Eisenhower "Its good to see you again, maybe you can visit us in North America someday"
Spencer: "I certainly will"
@@nikerailfanningttm9046 that's fantastic what you've written
@@nikerailfanningttm9046 let's not forget Dominion of Canada is also on display in Quebec with one of Stepney's brothers
@@nikerailfanningttm9046 Spencer: did you hear that our cousin Flying Scotsman isn't the only A3 left in the world an A3 actually lives on an island called Sodor off the coast of England named Gordon and he thinks he's faster than us everyone knows the A4's are the fastest steam locomotives in the world
The 15f is pulling the train
11:28 that’s not the break, that’s the reverser
OSHA violations! Hey Dave! Not wearing a seat belt on the forklift, riding outside of the cab on the other lift...Not workin with you bub.
I'm trying to remain calm
But I truly hope this is satire
I'm sure he's relieved to hear that!
While i like watching these heavy moves i do get tired/sick of the constant sudo danger being narateted 13 minuets ish in it's possible it could hit a support briging the building down ...???? really is it barrelling down the track at 100mph NO it is moving sideways at less that 1mph COME ON !!!!
Two sets of music and screeching is too much. Its throughout but check 31:10. Two music tracks, trains screeching and a guy shouting.
I did not see the American a4s in the uk during 2013 because I had my d of e expeditions, my uni graduation in Southampton and my big holiday to Scotland at the time but in 2015 I went to Montreal to see dominion and in 2018 I went to Green Bay via Chicago to see Dwight D Eisenhower.
PRR 7002 went 127 from station to station. This is an estimate but it wasn't possible for it to do it at a lower speed in the time it got there
That beats a dynamometer chart or a brass plaque on the loco. The achievement was so significant that the loco was scrapped
That is not an big boy that is an new york central hudson
What I dont get is y not pull the train to the dock were thay too old and rusty
Imagine driving a car a thousand miles with bearings that haven't turned in 40+ years and instead of grease, have nothing but off-the-shelf silicone spray lubricant. Obviously, you can't change a steam locomotives wheel bearings as easily as one might replace their automobile bearings. They were, however, brought back on their own wheels since they were both mostly restored while across the pond.
@@MaketoMake815 so because thay were old a rusty
in the US the issues are with the couplings. In the UK the issue is with the disconnection of main lines due to Beaching cuts (due to the Railway and Canal Transport Act 1856 not being repealed until 1968 when it should have been repealed between 1921-1945 to give Britains Railways a chance of surviving the growth of the road industry)
@@enterprisestobart in the US that could have made a adapter if it wasn't so old and rusty . In the UK so track repairs and legal law .
9:29
That is not a big boy you showed.....
January 2024 Hopefully the Dominion of Canada locomotive has received some TLC since this was posted. 🇨🇦🇨🇦