Drum Panning - How To Mix Drums (Part 3) | by JHDrums
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Where are we without the basics? Panning has been around since the filing of the stereo record patent in the 1930's. So why not do our best to take advantage of the stereophonic field?
When done correctly, panning can sit the listener right on the drum throne; the epicenter of our kit.
This tutorial will examine the different ways we can pan our drums to get the best representation of our entire kit.
Really, dude, I'm apreciating this video series oh so much! most useful thing I've found on the entire internet
To follow up with the MIDI numbering on the pan pot: it specifically has to do with MIDI Machine Control. In other words, using a control surface to control your DAW. MMC uses MIDI signals to do this. Faders are still represented in dB because of the logarithmic nature of amplitude. But panning is linear, therefore, the MIDI value system is used. Similarly, Mute, solo, record enable, etc. Are all simple on/off toggles and very easy to send via MIDI. Using the one value system makes it easy makes reading the displays of multiple outboard sources (colntrollers, synths, sound modules) easy to calibrate and compare.
Good job! The clock overlay is a really nice touch
Random bit of information; You mentioned the -64/+63 thing about your DAW. The reason this is put this way is because midi signals go from 1-127. The way this is set up is so the "center" is at midi 64. -64 (hard left) is actually midi 1. +63 (hard right) is midi 127. Just a little bit of random information for you. This is as far as I've gotten in this series here, and I'm loving it so far! Thanks for posting these.
spot on
i like your tutorials very much
my only point of critisism is the speed, you need a lot of time to explain.
Keep up the good work, i subscribed
I noticed you didn't cover the hi-hats. If you mic'd them individually, would you recommend panning far left, dead center or somewhere in between?
What about the width of each of these drum sounds?
cool!
where should OH mics XY needs to be placed? via clock place
As a drummer now music producer this tutorial is very good. What a way to look at panning the drums. Thank You! JHDrums Appreciate it!
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what overhead mics did you use? i've go a sf24 stereo and the mic is placed in middle front of the kit facing down. Any suggestions, id like to use your example, should I rotate the OH with stereo imager so that I can have mine in the same configuration? I'll try it and see how I go...Btw Great tutorial
Are “left” and “right” determined from the drummer’s POV or the audience POV? Audience perspective makes more sense to me, but you are using the drummer’s perspective.
Hey JH! That's amazing what you've done here. I find your tutorials very constructive and straight to the point. Also it would be worth mentioning for the beginners that this panning method is from drummers perspective if you know what I mean. Once again it's amazing and you are really talented tutor!
toms 100% left and right obviously? not obviously. not always a good choice.
You can also LCR the middle tom center, that helps
Does cubase panning 100 not really mean 100?
Do you hard pan the hi hat and the ride cymbal?
How about cymbal panning?
So what do you do with the hi hat
Thanks for the info!
I'm going to look into it to see if there's a way to change this for none midi sources. You would think by specifying that a track is Audio and not a Virtual Instrument, Logic would represent pan by percentage and not the other way around.
I'm glad you are enjoying the vids:)
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Believe it or not that really helped me to think about it like that. I’ve always been a little confused as to how to think of the panning numbers, but when you said 9 o’clock is 100% left, so 10 o’clock is 66%, and 11 is 33% I was like “Click !! ”... made total sense.
Thank you sincerely for explaining and showing this diagram, I’m going to revamp my entire set up tomorrow
Because I haven’t been able to make my three rack toms really feel like they’re going across the stereo field, Neil Peart style 😉
sorry for the dumb question but.....
you pan from drummer perspective but your overheads are FOH /listener perspective
why ``??
or do you flip them ?
thank you
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Question: Have you done a video on where to place the overheads?
If not do you happen to have any suggestions? Or possibly links to other UA-cam videos?
Thanks again for a great presentation !!
Like these videos! I think the reason logic has the pan knobs to 64 left and 63 right has something to do with midi. You have 127 midi notes, which is 64+63, however i dont know how you would use or need that. Also, i know its sometimes recommended to not completely pan floor toms. I have heard that leaving it around 90% helps because one speaker doesnt have to carry all of the low end. Anyways, keep them coming!
I am so glad you clarified panning in this video. I was really stuck on the snare and you clarified the answer I had. Thank you.
Excellent video! It's definitely given me a new and different perspective. In the past I've simply panned the drums according to the room mics. Now I feel I can fine tune with this method. Thank you!
Very helpful. That visual truly put things into perspective!
I think I might like this guy... Apologizing for slipping into spontaneous metaphors (AGAIN?!)? Way to intrigue an attentive ear.
I just want to say thank you man! I must say, you are by far the best person I have ever seen at tutorials. I usually have to keep rewinding and pausing on most tutorials. When I come to yours I literally feel like a student. And yes, I come with a pen and a pad. Again thank you for not having a condescending attitude. Peace!
Very insightful. Thanks
Will be recording my first real kit in a few weeks. This has been an awesome resource.
panning is balance, and the whole point of mixing is balance
pan pot is one of the few bad things i've seen about logic
Cool. Subscribed.
I'm currently editing drums and I am panning the toms left and right etc. However I just had a thought in regards to the listeners perspective. At the moment I panned the drums as though the listener is in the drum seat. However, I wonder if they should be backwards to cater to a listener from the crowd facing forward. Also, I'm mixing the toms half hard left and right, so that the guitars can breath on the own hard panned frequency.
I prefer when the drums are panned such that the listener's perspective is from the audience looking at the front of the stage. Even as a drummer I do not like when the drums are panned from the drummer's perspective.
that clock thing was cool
you are helping me out so much right now with these videos man. i'm opening a studio this summer and drum tuning, mic'ing, and eq'ing have been completely humbling me haha.
i'm also curious what location your studio is