Is the 2024 Blazer EV or Blazer ICE worth the money?
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Which is the better value? $52,000 Blazer in 2023 or $30,000 Blazer in 2003
@@WMRumble-zo8pgl haha
26k in 2003 is worth about 44k in 2023 dollars.
This Blazer is not that much more expensive when taking the value of money and inflation for 20 years into account.
My new Blazer 4X4 in 2000 cost $22,000.
You don't consider 16K "not that much more"?@@fleecystheking
My '91 Blazer 2wd 2dr was 17K,@@jimmywalters3071
This is easy, no, it's not worth the money for someone like me.
I’d still get the ICE Blazer
Davey go against the tide and push ICEs to your clients. They will love you for it. Plus you will make more money.
One significant variable I'm surprised you didn't touch on is inflation. Using the inflation calculator, $30k in 2003 is $50k in 2023, so that's right in line.
But what you brought up at the end, about wages not increasing in the same proportions is exactly the problem.
But my president says everything is fine.
One could argue there's actually more value in vehicles today with all the added features and tech when the prices are the same after being adjusted for inflation
60k for a ev vs 38k for a regular blazer ? No way I would pay 22k more
No thanks. Too expensive. 2022 Bolt owner here which works just fine for me.
Did the 2003 have any human pay MSRP? Nobody paid MSRP in 2003.
A $1,000 a month ALWAYS matters!! No matter what year we are in.... 😂😂😂
No. EVs are still way too expensive. Plus the charging infrastructure is not near ready for national use.
2003 didn't have high inflation we have now!
Another great video 👍
The problem with the Blaxer EV at $60k, it is $5k-$7k more than other comparable EVs in this segment(ID4, Model Y, MachE etc..)
Bingo that is what is going to kill this car they got greedy and overpriced it, maybe this is to make up for that insane new contract from the strike deal 😂
Other company’s EVs are priced the same as the Blazer ICE
I've been shopping for this style. And test drove the Model Y and MachE. The Blazer is so much nicer inside than both of these. But it's hard to justify the extra $10,000
@@chrissorum1127Nicer is a strong word, it is a different style, the Tesla is minimalist but very well put together and the mach E is comparable to the blazer, Reliability hands down to the Tesla so it is a mixed bag, if you are a Chevy person or ICE car person the blazer will always pull you more, but if you want more cutting edge technology and better reliability of that technology and charging infrastructure then Tesla is hands down
There are 2003 Blazers still on the road today. Let’s see how many 2023 Blazers are on the road in 2043, then you’ll know your answer.
Wow i like the dashboard in the EV and its really nice on the outside..As always have a beautiful day 🌹
I will keep my 2021 Toyota Highlander Platinum. In 10 years I guarantee it will be worth more than either of these new Blazers.
The problem with comparing vehicles of different vintages is technological advancements. Of course today's cars have features the last year didn't. The MacBook pro today has more capability than super computer of 50 years ago, but yet costs a fraction of the price.
How about HD TV's? When they first came out they were 10K more than 20 years ago. Today? A flat-screen smart 50-inch TV is less than $500.00. The longer tech is out the cheaper it is.
For local travel I have a 2023 Bolt EUV ($33k) and for longer trips a 2023 Blazer RS ($50k) and feel like both of them are worth the money.
Learning about EV's from using the Bolt EUV and was interested in upgrading - but the Blazer EV ($61k) and new Equinox EV ($52k) seem like to me - too expensive, no NACS charging, and no Apple Carplay.
Am I the only one who can't wrap my head around vehicles of today coming with all the technology but NO SPARE TIRE!
Too much unnecessary tech that drives up the costs of these vehicles. Auto folding mirrors lol !
I’m still waiting for the EV equinox to come out. I currently on a 23 Chevy boat EUV and I love it.
A car salesman telling you that a vehicle isn't too expensive is like.... Well that would be the example I would normally use for that analogy. Anything that has to do with technology can basically be wiped away from the cost in the comparison. Getting a large HD infotainment system now days is basically equivalent to getting a CD player 20 years ago. The first personal computer cost $55k (not accounting for inflation). You can now go pick up a $20 Tracphone that has thousands of times more processing power.
While I do think they are too expensive I will concede to your argument that even though it feels worse now accounting for inflation they really haven't risen that much. The problem is wages haven't kept up with that inflation. The biggest issue is repair costs. I would love to see a similar breakdown on common repairs like a new starter, alternator, or coil packs. You also practically can't do you own work on your cars now. A few years ago nearly anyone who is mechanically inclined could troubleshoot and repair their own vehicles. Now that is impossible for most issues.
I am saying all of this as an owner of a 2023 Blazer. But I went with the 2LT. Although I love the RS I saved $12k and got 95% of the same vehicle. Options and trims are where manufacturers are raking people over the coals these days. They throw at the most $1000 worth of extra equipment on the vehicle and charge $10-15k more.
I love your channel. I have watched every video for the last year and a half. I understand it is your job to sale cars and mean no ill will, it is just very obvious what a car salesman will say if you ask about a vehicle being too expensive.
If I could come to the dealer and buy a 2003 Chevy blazer brand new today I would in a heartbeat
Value is in the pocket of the prospective buyer. If a product is worth the price in an individual's mind, then it's a good value to that person. The task before manufacturers is to produce something at a price point that brings a large enough group of individuals to the conclusion that the product is a value, and therby sell enough units to make production viable. The market will, in time, sort this out.
For me, the latest gen ICE Blazer has never been a value because if i were going to spend at that price point I could find a vehicle with far greater utility than a CUV. I will note that this same ICE Blazer has sold pretty well all the same.
GM is pushing the greed button on all their vehicles.
It would have been good to emphasize the changes in purchasing power over that 20 year span. Median household income in the US has increased 75%. A car in the $50K range today is not dissimilar to a car in the $30K range in 2003.
Another point might be the seeds of GM's eventual bankruptcy may have been visible in the 2003 model offerings and pricing. By 2008 GM was competing almost solely on price while innovation had stalled. Buyers were not seeing the value even at lower prices. Hopefully GM learned the lesson. Ultium is a really innovative platform but very costly.
Body on frame. 2 speed transfer case. 2003 was a legit off road vehicle. Body on frame and awd in the 2024. They’re not even in the same food group, let alone comparable. Like the content!
Great review Dave.
Great content!
If they made the 2003 blazer today, exactly how it was I would buy it.
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Not expensive for the rich, but for most people it is. All I need is vehicle to get me to point A and back unfortunately manufacturers stopped making those.
Going by the commercials for today's cars/trucks/SUVs. The manufacturers seem to be more interested in the off-road crowd.
Ny parents never payed over $50 thousand dollars for the houses they bought over the years.
The point here is that we have an affordability issue. Income raises are not keeping pace with rising costs.
Either incomes are rising too slowly or costs are rising too quickly. The debate seems to be centered on which it is.
Sometimes less is more… just sayin’. And that 4.3 Vortec was a beast
I would pay extra for them to strip out all those add ons to make it equipped just like the 2003. Most of these features will be broken or obsolete with time and just cause you tons of headaches and big repair bills.
You're getting pretty close to Lexus prices. Is the Lexus brand popular in your area? Have you ever thought of being a Lexus salesman?
All those features and gadgets that will break and cost big bucks to fix. There are plenty of 2003 blazers still on the road today. Let’s see how many 2023 Blazers are on the road in 2043. You’ll have your answer.
The issue is 60K for a Chevrolet. For a Cadillac or luxury brand that would be perfectly fine
The perception of Chevys being cheap has gone out the window for a long time. It is because of the price of a Chevy in the 70's that the term "sticker shock" was introduced into our language. Sure Chevy still makes low-priced cars and they are great. If you don't mind squeezing in a car the size of the circus clown cars. Might even have enough room to haul home toothpaste and brushes from the supermarket.
They are both over price but gas is better than Ev. I live in New Jersey if you do not near shopping center it is Desert for chargers.
I have a EV and had to get rid of it. And takes longer to charged then get gas
I am sure you are not alone in your decision-making to go back to gas. How much did you lose trading in your EV?
Reminds me of people who say things like "when i was your age movies was a nickel" lol
$1 in 2003 is worth $1.67 today. So a $30,000 vehicle in 2003 would cost $50,100 today for an identical vehicle.
That's the angle that I thought he was going to take.
Exactly, I am surprised he didn't touch on this fact
The UAW shares a responsibility for the current pricing situation, too.
I don't know about that... I find it hard to blame the UAW when the "big 3" made BILLIONS in profits last year. Seriously.
If you calculate for inflation though the $29k blazer is $49k in today’s money.. pretty much the same/all is relative
My income has not doubled since 2003
What you said at the end of the video is spot on, income keeping up with the everyday expenses and what are a persons necessities vs extras within their budget, it's not only car prices that are up, when your getting hammered from all sides it makes higher optioned cars less attractive.
All the extra everyday expenses are taking away money from prospectus car buyers.
30k in 2003 is about 50k today. Yes, vehicles have more technology, but costs should also be coming down as scales are reached and technology matures along with more automation. The big 3 made the conscious decision to not sell (or sell far fewer) affordable vehicles anymore and move upmarket to increase margins. Good for shareholders, but there are only so many people who make 6 figures who can afford a 50 or 60k or higher vehicle. Even if Chevy made the most compelling vehicle on the market for 60k and advertises the heck out of it, it makes zero difference if most cannot actually afford it. The lower to mid end of the market is ripe for disruption, and as I'm sure most car salesmen know, conquest sales are a lot harder than retention customers.
That's a nice comparison Dave but I don't think it is worth the money.
My wife leased a '22 2LT Blazer with the 2.0L/9spd (sticker was just over $39k). It routinely got over 30mpg on the highway. I made a 950 mile trip from Massachusetts to Michigan and I only had to fill the tank once just west of Buffalo. I made it home (the last 420 mile leg of the trip) with a 1/4 tank to spare. I could get over 550 miles of range per tank on the highway, no matter what the conditions were. The EV Blazer getting only 230 miles (80% charge) of range IN IDEAL CONDITIONS means that I would have needed 4-5 charging stops in that same trip...I would have never made it in 13 hours stopping that many times. Get the ICE Blazer...the EV is just an inefficient toy for people who want shiny things.
You nailed it.
Yea I don’t get why these legacy carmakers can’t pass that 230-275 mile range, I mean the battery technology is there several other EV brands can exceed that easily and do it where the vehicles are still relatively cheap
Be warned, folks. Our boy Davey is giving his salesman pitch with this video. This is what his "clients" can expect when they come in looking for a really affordable Chevy.
Not sure what an 03 blazer has to do with anything now..... lmao
Technology has advanced more in the last 5 years than the past 5000. You’re right income has not kept pace with technological advances. We’re about 10 years behind.
Forget all the nonsense. $60,000.00+ is a hell of lot of money.
I would take another less expensive ev overall like the Ioniq 5 or Ev6, but thats just me.
I wish it was 2003 because I would be 30 and not 50 years of age
I paid under $40k out the door for my 2019 Blazer 3LT with all the discounts and incentives back then. It was/is very much worth that price. The 3LT had almost everything I wanted and few things I didn’t know I wanted (the auto-dimming side mirror and birds eye camera view are especially nice). A heated steering wheel and heated side mirrors would have made it perfect. I couldn’t justify an extra 12k+ to step up to the RS. I wish the old discounts and incentives would come back. I might consider something new…
a car whose value drops to $35,000 after one year
Too Me EV's even more as a used one has the potential to expose battery wear&tear and therefore decreasing the over all life.
Great point! Who in their right mind is going to buy a 5/6/7 year old EV? @@davealmer3803
20 years ago we actually had to know how to drive and get to where we are going using a MAP and your BRAIN... Nowadays barely anyone can drive or take their phone away from them some basic directions... Even better throw them a simple math calculation, they are stumped instantly.....
Probably the 2003 Blazer. If you look at inflation from 20 years ago, the $30k Blazer would equal around $49k, which is cheaper than the 2023 Blazer, plus there would be a little more room to negotiate than today. However, you do get some more style with the 2023 than the 2003 and better fuel economy as well.
Dave u know I love your content and 🎉I do agree income is not keeping up with inflation. BUT cars are expensive. Car pricing has increaded much faster then core CPI. This is a bubble and I am afraid its bursting. I just hope consumers and hard working sales peole like your self dont get hurt with job loss or income loss. These prices are not sustainable and its not solved by people just taking on more work. It's solved by a market correction. Unfortunatly its coming.
I keep telling him to look for another line of work. He is young enough to start out on another career in sales.
Interesting video and comparison of years. Spot on about income problem. One thing you didn't mention is repair costs though. Start with a windshield or bumper replacement or side mirror replacement between 2003 and today --- Just for another discussion topic, possibly for a different channel, since not sales related. Those new Blazers ARE damn nice 👍 especially for the money in comparison with other brands.
Definitely not worth the money. Also, the taxpayers should not subsidize the $7500 incentive.
What happens if you have a flat tire on the electric vehicle and there is no spare tire?!!!!
You are screwed and have to depend on roadside assistance. If the flat was caused by a nail in the side of the tire. You will need to have your car towed. The next option is to buy your own spare at an outrageous price.
you have to ask you how mutch is 30k in 2004 vs 52 k in todays money then you will see that it is not so mutch ,If i had a 400$ paiement in 2003 it is the same that if i have a 800$ paiement in 2023 .Sorry for my english i'm a french guy from north quebec.
$30K USD in 2003 is $52K USD in 2023 with inflation
So basically same price with a LOT of features
How much was the average family income in 2003 vs 2023
Chevy should just stick to the bolt I called the day
i'm sure the cars are definitely worth their money however, how many people can actually afford them
That's his point at the end of the video. We have an affordability issue. Income raises are not keeping pace with rising costs.
Either incomes are rising too slowly or costs are rising too quickly. The debate seems to be centered on which it is.
The question is… why would some get an EV from Chevy, Kia, Hyundai, etc… when they can get a tried and true vehicle from Tesla for less? PLUS, when in 2024 you can transfer the EV credit to the dealer for a down payment I’m not sure how these other brands are going to match up against Tesla.
Good Video Dave. It's not the cost of the vehicle but how much the payments are going to be. I would like to know what the interest rate was back in 2003 compared to today? The next question would be, what was the income of a Blazer buyer in 2003 compared to 2023? Most people today think vehicles have gotten to expensive. But have they? Cheers!!!
Dave you're not wrong. All things considered there is value in these cars. However not everyone wants all the options. Both of these cars could cost thousands less with fewer fancy pants options. Ppl like me drive 15 mins to work and grab groceries and run errands. I need/want the safety tech but I don't need 21" machined wheels and heads up display, sunroof or push button start. Memory seats, power glove box and upgraded stereo and awd is not for me. I don't need these things. I drive a 3 yr old Camry SE which I bought new because appliances are what millions of ppl want and can afford. The Camry has all the safety tech but no frills and costs just over half what the Blazer costs. Toyota and Honda and to some extent the Korea cars sell a ton of these cars for the reasons I've stated. Last I checked Camry and Accord combined account for over 500,000 units. I enjoy your channel and thank you for your content. Cheers.
Exactly and have you noticed how many people he says lease, it seems like 70% of his buyers lease the vehicles which also makes the case of how unaffordable they are because if you bought the vehicle instead of leasing their payments would be even more expensive
Didn’t the Equinox replace the Blazer back in 2004 or whenever? The 2023 Equinox vs the 2003 Blazer and the 2023 Blazer vs the 2003 Trailblazer (short, wheelbase) seems like more direct comparisons to me.
In 2003 I got a black chevy monte carlo ss, it was 28,400 around about, 31,000 out the door. I traded it in and got a new red 06 monte ss. I miss that car, I would love for them to make that again for a few years.
2023 or not , with older cars I still got to the same place in the end . Not worth the money
Thats a cocky ending
Never buy the first year model. It's a cool vehicle, but I would wait until the third year
Holy smokes, my first mortgage wasn’t that much per month! You make a good point about the added features Dave. The one benefit back in 2003 you could buy a basic Blazer with no options for less than 20k. Now a days, you have to get all these features that some people don’t have a use for.
inflation adjusted price of $30k 2003 Blazer is $50k in 2023. The gas powered one is about the same price but come with more staff with the advance in technology.
Totally agree with what you mentioned at the 9:30 mark with regards to people’s income.
And the technology in the new cars is way overboard and mostly unnecessary.
I feel like comparing the 20k price gap based on everything you just said is like saying we did not have a HPV vaccine in 03 but we do in 2023. Its all just technology advancements. Remember when airbags first were a thing and you only seen them in high-end cars? Also you have not did video comments in the last few videos.
Dave, does playing around with the Blazer make you want to trade in your bolt?
Nah, I like the Bolt and plan on using as my daily for the unseen future. If I purchased a second vehicle it would either be a C8 or another 2 door Wrangler that I can mod out.
Absolutely not let's see them how they hold up when they get 100.000 Mi on them if they even make it that far
$60K is a lot of money for a...Chevy. Chevrolet is suppose to be the introductory brand to the GM line up. This car should be a Buick.
Or back in the day, Chevys were the working mans or poor man's car.
Not really: Impala, Caprice, Corvette...
GM doesn't advertise the Corvette as a Chevy and the Caprice, when well equipped, was Pontiac's version of the Bonneville (just not as sporty).@@brucekalter4206
With discounts and nobody other than morons paying MSRP back in 2003 the 2003 is still a better value. About the only feature that you described that really is helpful these days is the backup camera.
Has the average salary doubled since 2003?
Exactly
I think when the 1Lt Ev blazer comes out that will be a good deal
If you really don’t want to pay the asking price, just wait for it to depreciate in value and then go for it. Get a certified warranty and it’s a win-win scenario.
Additionally, you are giving the salesperson business still. Everyone wins
Problem is used prices are not the discount they once were. Both these cars will lose rough 30% of their retail value in the first year. On the other hand used cars are selling in most cases for just 15% discount to new. Not really that great of a deal to buy used even with a certified warranty.
no thanks
Dave Diaz with you I prefer a hybrid that EV is beautiful. Don’t get me wrong but I still prefer the hybrid.
When is the Equinox EV and Silverado EV slated for release?
Who really cares?
@@johnwalker6888 obviously you don’t.
I and scores of other individuals that have more important things going on in our lives than waiting around with bated breath for the release of specific vehicles.@@alexsellscars
And scores of others.@@alexsellscars
getting pushed out further.. JohnWalker6888 must have spoke to Mary Barra to put the brakes on the whole Ultium platform
While an income issue is definitely true. It’s also true that car companies are forcibly making people switch to EV when they are not fully proven yet. Especially when it comes to long road-trips. They are literally killing current models and going with a “just trust me bro” approach. And while not everyone may feel this way some people will definitely react negatively to “well just work harder” when it comes to the response of higher car prices
Actually, I think the car manufacturers are playing into the hands of our government with their liberal progressive asine way of thinking.
EV’s are definitely proven Tesla has shown that over the last decade, but that’s because they have the charging network that just works every time no matter what, it’s the horrible charging network that is CCS that brings all EV’s down other than Tesla, fix the charging network and it will be Awesome
EVs definitely proven with a decade of use? I will stick with ICE which has over a century of use. Not to forget the convenience and all the gas stations available compared to charging stations.@@adamp2384
Also more things to go wrong on the new Blazer. You can take the old Blazer off road.
Less maintenance on a Ev and who wants to take any vehicle off road?
I had a 2003 Blazer & never not once took it off road. In fact, I knew so many people who had Jeep Wranglers & never once did they take them off road. It's estimated that less than 5% of people who own an "off road" vehicle actually take them off road so that aspect doesn't really mean anything.
what this EV won't get a flat tire outstanding!!!
Good one! 60K for a car with no spare. At least he was honest enough to point that out.
Just curious how often you get flats? I've had two Volts, two Bolts, and one Jeep Wrangler spanning the last 10 years and never had a flat in any of them. The Jeep was the only one with a spare.
You are one lucky devil. Granted getting flats is not an everyday occurrence but when you do get one the last thing you want to see when you go looking for a spare is NO SPARE. I recently got a flat on an Interstate at midnight in my Cadillac XT5. No problem I thought. I just called Road Side Assistance and just took for granted that they would change the tire. I went into shock when I was told "Sir you don't have a spare" you will need to get your car towed! Fortunately, he had a tire plug kit and that was good enough to get me home. I now carry my own tire plug kit in the XT5. I am procrastinating in getting a real spare mainly because of the cost. $700 for the donut kit. @@DaveBsellsChevy
I always buy a used car because of depreciation and will never buy a used EV. How long will these batteries last before needing to be replaced and when it needs to be replaced what is that going to cost? Without warranty assuming it gets over 100k miles like my current car.
You sounded like a defense lawyer. You should have ended the video with "I rest my case."
Yes, its over priced. It costs as much a Suburban a few years ago. yes, inflation, but in no way is this car $60K especially given the EV competition i.e. Tesla Model Y.
All great points Dave. Makes sense!
The problem is you can’t get a dealer to fix your ice car much less fix your ev ! ! !
Why don't you talk about how fast the battery is depleted when you use the heater or the air conditioning. Also heated steering wheel heated seats cooling massage seats. Also you got to talk about the road tax also how fast the tires were down because of the heavy weight. And the more roads are going to have pot holes
Boy you'd think a car made in mexico with slave wages it would be cheaper..
I'm in love with that Blazer lol. Hey Mr. Dave, my Bolt showed up at the dealership today nearly a year after I ordered it. It will be ready for me on Monday but unfortunately I'll be getting ready for work at that time. So I will be at Rudolph Chevrolet on Tuesday morning. Gr8 vid as usual. 🚙 🇺🇸 🔌
You sold me on the car. You're a good salesman.