This interview is an unexpected delight. @13:54 “Most people in the churches that we reach out have no idea of discipleship. They don’t really have a clear understanding what discipleship is and how to go about it.” - Alan Hirsch @14:24 "It’s what we call attractional forms of church. Mostly it’s predicated on, based on, non-discipleship, because it doesn’t call to that. It calls to believe ideas. It doesn’t call people to follow, and that’s a huge problem.” - Alan Hirsch @19:43 "When I come back to the West, I've told a lot of people I've never been more concerned about the church in America, and I've never been more hopeful that movemental ways of thinking and working could take off here." - Cynthia @32:16 “Jesus isn’t after the masses. Jesus can change the world with 12 disciples. He can’t change the world with 12,000 consumers. Much of the way we do church is predicated on what we say is consumerism. It calls people to believe certain ideas but it doesn’t call them to follow. So they’re non-disciples, they’re not disciples. They might be called admirers of Jesus but they’re not followers of Jesus, and they don’t model their lives on Jesus.” - Alan Hirsch @38:43 “We are called to proclaim the Gospel. But we’re not to be centered on it. The problem is unless we have a clarity on Jesus, what you’re going to do is create a whole group of people who believe certain ideas but they haven’t got a commitment to focus on becoming more like Jesus.” - Alan Hirsch Wow!
Thank you very much for this great teaching.
You are welcome!
This interview is an unexpected delight.
@13:54 “Most people in the churches that we reach out have no idea of discipleship. They don’t really have a clear understanding what discipleship is and how to go about it.” - Alan Hirsch
@14:24 "It’s what we call attractional forms of church. Mostly it’s predicated on, based on, non-discipleship, because it doesn’t call to that. It calls to believe ideas. It doesn’t call people to follow, and that’s a huge problem.” - Alan Hirsch
@19:43 "When I come back to the West, I've told a lot of people I've never been more concerned about the church in America, and I've never been more hopeful that movemental ways of thinking and working could take off here." - Cynthia
@32:16 “Jesus isn’t after the masses. Jesus can change the world with 12 disciples. He can’t change the world with 12,000 consumers. Much of the way we do church is predicated on what we say is consumerism. It calls people to believe certain ideas but it doesn’t call them to follow. So they’re non-disciples, they’re not disciples. They might be called admirers of Jesus but they’re not followers of Jesus, and they don’t model their lives on Jesus.” - Alan Hirsch
@38:43 “We are called to proclaim the Gospel. But we’re not to be centered on it. The problem is unless we have a clarity on Jesus, what you’re going to do is create a whole group of people who believe certain ideas but they haven’t got a commitment to focus on becoming more like Jesus.” - Alan Hirsch Wow!