I read a story about one survivor who lived near a baseball field, every time a home run was scored it triggered his PTSD as the sound of the crowd reminded him of that fateful night
Frederick Fleet went through pure hell throughout his life. Not only did he survive the most famous shipwreck in history. He also carried the guilt of feeling as though he was partially to blame for the tragedy. It doesn’t stop there, he also fought in the 2 deadliest wars in human history.. only to have his wife leave him and lose his home. His life was a real tragedy. Rest in Peace Frederick Fleet.
Mr. Fleet, was suffering from PTSD, b4 anyone knew what that was. The sinking of the Titanic alone, could've caused the depression, without 2 world wars! Then late in life, he gets evicted from his home. That was simply heartless. Jesus. RIP Frederick Fleet🌙🪽💐🕊
My jaw dropped at he served in both World Wars. I served in one war.. BOTH World Wars and the Titanic sinking- I cant imagine what his life was like, hope hes in peace now ❤
Back in the mid 1960,s we used to walk to school, we passed one old fashioned one with an old lady sitting on her rocker on the front porch, every time we did we,d wave and say hi. But she'd never say a word, one day we passed and a guy was mowing her front yard. We stopped to talk , he was her son, he said she was on the Titanic at age 9, she watched her dad, and brothers go down with the ship. She never spoke again.
@Mohammed Khaled Thank fcking God you said it!.... How is everyone so fcking stupid! If she never spoke again from age 9, how in the flying fckstick did she grow up, buy a house, get married, and raise a son?....
Trauma and war so changes a man. Carrying the self imposed guilt of 1500 innocent lives lost and two world wars worth of PTSD it doesn't take much more to push a good man over the ledge and into the abyss. I've been on that ledge myself.
God created the world in six days He can also save you from hell and have a personal relationship with him today He can give you his Holy Spirit to guide and teach and comfort you today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
Jesus Christ died so He could take all our guilt, shame, and sins on to His own shoulders so we could be free ✝️🛐 He is our LORD and our Saviour. It’s heartbreaking to hear you were in such a low state of mind and I pray that life is better for you. God bless you and your loved ones 🙏🏾✝️🙏🏾
Fredrick is a sad case how can u just throw someone out without them having somewere to live no wonder he killed himself he felt all he went thru and knowing his wife was dead and no one cared wether he lived or died. Same as today so many have no empathy
God created the world in six days He can also save you from hell and have a personal relationship with him today He can give you his Holy Spirit to guide and teach and comfort you today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
I think it's more that there was no moonlight to illuminate the iceberg and no crashing waves to give away its location. Despite what movies and tv would have lef you to believe, the iceberg would have appeared to have been a black blob against a black sky and dark ocean until it was too late.
From a window at my old job every day I could see a plaque saying " a survivor of the Titanic lived here " no name or dates nothing. It took ages for me to find out who it was. He was a steward that was in charge of the oars on lifeboat 13 ... They saved the youngest survivor of the sinking. So many amazing stories ignored or forgotten 😢
The reason no binoculars, a last minute crew change ment the keys to the locker containing the binoculars stayed on shore with the replaced crewmen..thus they couldn't access them at sea.
I've heard they couldn't access binoculars because the officer who had the key forgot to hand in in when he transferred off the Titanic. My question is this: was there no locksmith in the crew?
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Being that radar had not been invented yet, ocean travel regardless of the time of day when visibility was limited during the winter and sailing in an area that is know to have icebergs, any ships Captain should have given the order to hold in place. Until it was safe to proceed , and the visibility had improved, period! End of story!!! This tragic accident did not have to happen. It's unfortunate that many powerful people like Captains and others in power, hold our lives in their hands only to find out that they not only lack common sense, but they are also incompetent and answer only to promises that cannot be kept and their agenda/ego regardless of the danger ahead.... RIP! Poor souls.
Ohhh how awful to be treated so badly, he was a hero and the owners/bosses were pukes!! God bless you both for what you did and went thru, so sorry the best get treated the worst in life, but take heart Jesus was too+++🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹💐🏆🏆🏆🎇🎇🎇
If you survive a disaster like Titanic AND fight for your country in a war you should be housed for the rest of your life. No rules. No charity. No hoops to jump through.
The reason they wasn’t given the binoculars is that the 1st mate was put ashore in Ireland and he took the key to the cabinet that had the binoculars in
"Met with tragic endings"???? The one Lookout was a hero in two wars and lived to be 78 years old. How is that tragic??? The little boy who is seen playing with his top on the deck of the ship; he died only three years later at the age of NINE after being struck by a car. THAT'S TRAGIC!!!!
Oligarchs then are like oligarchs today. They truly see themselves as above the rest of us. The question today is as it was then. "Which side are you on?"
Omg, the first guys family should be compensated, this is a tragedy; he suffered directly and after he left, served his country and continued to suffer for many decades, finally killing himself after being evicted from his home, this is unacceptable. The other young man should have also been compensated his trauma,and been given a headstone.
I hate how the movie depicts them as being too busy staring at Jack and Rose kissing (fully clothed and not even going at it that hard) to even notice the iceberg. A little throw away scene like that can stain the reputation of someone hardcore. Not as bad as what they did to Murdough (any man who survived that night owes their survival to him) but still
As for the first look out that was a WWI vet. I have Family that survived WWII as well as WWI I was fortunate to get to know them very well . like a lot of them they bottled it up and tried to put it behind them. soldiers and Civilians. From them opening up to me I figured between the War and the Titanic sinking he couldn't take it. how could you. He was a special kind of Man . R.I.P. they should have gave him the proper tools for the job.
The lookouts didn’t request binoculars only to be told no. The most junior officer got bumped off the crew at the last minute and left with his locker key which contained the binoculars. Also if Frederick was born in 1887 then he was 52-53 when WW2 started. Not saying that he didn’t serve but if he did it was likely in some sort of rear role or home based role.
Fun fact. The missing binoculars are in a glass cabinet in an orange hall in Belfast Northern Ireland. They were stolen by a workman when they were fitting the ship out with her final touches. They have the white star line logo and from where on them.
So many contradictory stories about that ship. I’d understood the didn’t have the key to the cabinet…which, fair enough, probably wouldn’t stop a determined officer.
@@jaybee9269 correct. They'd have busted the lock or had another set of keys on a great big ship. If you're ever in Belfast, you can go see them. It'll settle it once and for all. It was a few years ago they turned up in an old house clear out with other bits and pieces and carpenters tools.
How were they verified? Everybody is dead. They (binoculars) were in demand across the fleet and may have been on another ship entirely. The suspicion of the former officer having the key wouldn't have mattered, yes.
What? The missing binoculars were in a locker on the ship herself. They were assigned to the vessel's second officer. When David Blair was replaced as second officer, he locked the binoculars inside and accidentally took the key with him. Not that it mattered, because Charles Lightoller presumably brought aboard his own. Everyone who was supposed to have binoculars on Titanic did. There was not a pair assigned to lookouts.
Survives the Titanic sinking goes to through world war and dies by his own hands. That's PTSD for sure. That's a hard life much respect for all you went through sad to see you take your own life. RIP
There was a set of binoculars. But it was locked away in a safe that they didn’t have the key to because someone who was supposed to be one of the lookouts didn’t get the job and locked it away.
Dude was the look out on the titanic, survived, served in the great War, survived, served in the second world War, survived.. and passes away because he's evicted at 78 years old and can't take it anymore? That's a fucking crime.. 2 time veteran and survivor of the titanic.. thats just horrible.
Actually what alot of people don't think of is binos wouldn't have helped them in any way it was a moonless night you would just see more black with the binos
Interesting if they did not spot the iceberg and the ship hit it head on, the ship would be badly damaged but won’t sink since not enough compartments would be breached
Interesting thing is they have determined now that the iceberg had nothing to do with the actual sinking what caused the problem was an overheated area where the cold was kept to run the ship that there was an out of control fire in that particular compartment since before they left harbor. It's pretty well been established now that that's what caused the the sinking and the explode there was an explosion in there.
Binoculars were not night enhancing then. Binoculars would have only been filled with darkness. Icebergs did not have little light houses. This apparently was an odd factor in today's thinking, but no one to my knowledge has stated that Binoculars would have saved Capt. Smith's hubris in not slowing.
I can't believe that on such an important ship with thousands of people on board, that they didn't have basic equipment to look out for icebergs. I mean they spared no expense to create luxury and opulence which is fine. But why couldn't they have provided the lookout staff with a powerful spot light and binoculars or a telescope. The ship's generators could have easily powered a large fresno lensed spot light affixed on a large tripod for scanning. The light could have been as powerful as a lighthouse light. That size of light could have been easy to power with the ship's powerful generators.
Binos would not be of any use. Icebergs are black on a black night. My Great Uncle was a ships captain and did that route often The only warning is the smell and any waves breaking around the base. Binos require light to work as they reduce depth of vision at night. The Frederick Fleet statement was to the Americzn inquiry where he was asked a yes or no answer without expanding the answer and under pressure.
They used them at night all the time however they were not usually used to find objects. They were used to inspect/confirm object that were spotted by naked eyes.
It was a dark, still moonless night. You need light to be able to see out of binoculars, if they of used them that night they would’ve seen less not more. Also everyone on Titanic was going through a mirage affect so things looked further than they actually were. Travelling from the warm gulf to the freezing Atlantic caused the temperatures to rapidly change
its possible binoculars could’ve made it harder to spot cause although you can see much further with binoculars you cant see much around you like you can with your normal eyes its really just something that would’ve been a 50/50 chance
Woww mighty Jesus Christ in the name of you heavenly Father holy Spirit forgive him for taking his own life stress that comes with so many other pressure it's not easy 🙏🙏
So feckin sad and an abusuve life..not helped, chucked out at an old age? It happens today- I've seen it. Our species is capable of greatness and absolutely cruelty. You'd think, just one of those rich people she'd, wouod have keot an eye put for him . Titanic, two wars, eviction...no wonder he took his own life.
won't it actually see through the Mirage? all so most scientists said it probably didn't break in half... OfCourse today we know Titanic Broke like a Taco
Evidence is conflicting, If they had a spot light like some ships did, and binoculars yeah it would of survived. Even if they did have binoculars it still would of survived, just limping.
some people were actually rather happy with the event of the tragedy... there was one chick from the 3d class! she was unhinged like someone from TikTok! she survived and sent a telegram to her relatives saying: "I witnessed Titanic go down, everyone screaming... such a historic event... IT WAS AWESOME!!! I'm glad I saw it" and she was a Third Class Chick mind you!
you think he deserved it cuz he killed people? everyone deserves a roof over their head no matter what they did for four years after high school bro. change your backwards thinking of “only some people dont deserve to be homeless”
people who lived during the early 20th century lived through a lot of hell, the Great Depression, both world wars, and great tragedies like the Titanic sinking.
and we had 9/11 getting into third WW economy faces utter collapse the governments are corrupt to the core civil unrest all that changed since the early 20th century, was the fashion and the technology...
Lived through all that and passed away at the age of 77 years old. What he must have witnessed in his live was unbelievable to even imagine. He should have lived his last few years a hero.
@@woomeebly I don’t think you understand on what’s happening right now? They the elite ( g20 summit) have explained the total destruction of society to build back authoritarian totalitarianism. Destroying energy wealth and freedoms
Evicted from his home at 78 yrs old ??? WTF
And a veteran of two Wars..Wtf..?
Who the f*** throws was a geriatric out on the street especially a f****** double world war veteran
Inhumane!
@@PaladinThomas in post war England they did
Conservatives and capitalism. Gotta love it
More than a few of those who made it, suffered from PTSD and survivor's guilt.
We're all survivors brother there's nothing to feel guilty for
I read a story about one survivor who lived near a baseball field, every time a home run was scored it triggered his PTSD as the sound of the crowd reminded him of that fateful night
Literaly Duh. You can't be not traumatized from a traumatic event (like this)
@@cag88makes sense.
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Frederick Fleet went through pure hell throughout his life. Not only did he survive the most famous shipwreck in history. He also carried the guilt of feeling as though he was partially to blame for the tragedy. It doesn’t stop there, he also fought in the 2 deadliest wars in human history.. only to have his wife leave him and lose his home. His life was a real tragedy. Rest in Peace Frederick Fleet.
Mr. Fleet, was suffering from PTSD, b4 anyone knew what that was. The sinking of the Titanic alone, could've caused the depression, without 2 world wars! Then late in life, he gets evicted from his home. That was simply heartless. Jesus.
RIP Frederick Fleet🌙🪽💐🕊
Yes and people today think they are oppressed!? No way! None of these they/thems can even imagine!
@@Decgyrrl why did he lose his home??
@@hazelnafsika5130fredrick's wife died and her brother evicted fredrick from the house
My jaw dropped at he served in both World Wars. I served in one war.. BOTH World Wars and the Titanic sinking- I cant imagine what his life was like, hope hes in peace now ❤
Thank you for your service, and, it’s really sad. He Didn’t deserve that life.
he served both world wars...
people were cut from a different cloth back then.
Then was evicted from his home at 78. What a stinking world we live in 😖
Most were, Lightoller being one of the many.
the dude was drafted? LOL, the world sucked he didnt have much of a choice
@aspirindamage5152 you would have fled to Canada
@@gaigegrosskreutzmissingbic5591Didn't Canada also have a draft during WW2, lol? You must be thinking of the Vietnam War.
Back in the mid 1960,s we used to walk to school, we passed one old fashioned one with an old lady sitting on her rocker on the front porch, every time we did we,d wave and say hi. But she'd never say a word, one day we passed and a guy was mowing her front yard. We stopped to talk , he was her son, he said she was on the Titanic at age 9, she watched her dad, and brothers go down with the ship. She never spoke again.
Wow 😲
Oh how sad.
So how did she get married and have a kid if she never spoke again?
@Mohammed Khaled Thank fcking God you said it!.... How is everyone so fcking stupid! If she never spoke again from age 9, how in the flying fckstick did she grow up, buy a house, get married, and raise a son?....
❌Doubt
Trauma and war so changes a man. Carrying the self imposed guilt of 1500 innocent lives lost and two world wars worth of PTSD it doesn't take much more to push a good man over the ledge and into the abyss. I've been on that ledge myself.
God bless and keep you. Prayers.
God created the world in six days He can also save you from hell and have a personal relationship with him today He can give you his Holy Spirit to guide and teach and comfort you today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
Jesus Christ died so He could take all our guilt, shame, and sins on to His own shoulders so we could be free ✝️🛐 He is our LORD and our Saviour. It’s heartbreaking to hear you were in such a low state of mind and I pray that life is better for you. God bless you and your loved ones 🙏🏾✝️🙏🏾
The landlord was his brother in law who told Frederick Fleet to leave and it was him that found Frederick Fleet the next morning
Fredrick is a sad case how can u just throw someone out without them having somewere to live no wonder he killed himself he felt all he went thru and knowing his wife was dead and no one cared wether he lived or died. Same as today so many have no empathy
God created the world in six days He can also save you from hell and have a personal relationship with him today He can give you his Holy Spirit to guide and teach and comfort you today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
Rest well men, this was not your fault.
Binoculars would have done nothing to help them, they were in a cold weather mirage.
I think it's more that there was no moonlight to illuminate the iceberg and no crashing waves to give away its location. Despite what movies and tv would have lef you to believe, the iceberg would have appeared to have been a black blob against a black sky and dark ocean until it was too late.
Poor man
Who wouldn't live in despair.
I pray he's RIP
❤God bless Reginald & Frederick, survivors of the Titanic Tragedy in April 1912. May God bless both these two gentlemen❤
Their stories and lives should be told. How sad they were never spoken of.
From a window at my old job every day I could see a plaque saying " a survivor of the Titanic lived here " no name or dates nothing. It took ages for me to find out who it was.
He was a steward that was in charge of the oars on lifeboat 13 ... They saved the youngest survivor of the sinking.
So many amazing stories ignored or forgotten 😢
Agree. And many we will never know. How sad
The reason no binoculars, a last minute crew change ment the keys to the locker containing the binoculars stayed on shore with the replaced crewmen..thus they couldn't access them at sea.
I've heard they couldn't access binoculars because the officer who had the key forgot to hand in in when he transferred off the Titanic. My question is this: was there no locksmith in the crew?
Or no crowbar
@@grf1426>> Or axe?
@@jaybee9269 We know there was an axe
Rose used it later on
Why bother? There was no pressing need for them. The only ones whining about binoculars was the group not supposed to have them in the first place.
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Being that radar had not been invented yet, ocean travel regardless of the time of day when visibility was limited during the winter and sailing in an area that is know to have icebergs, any ships Captain should have given the order to hold in place. Until it was safe to proceed , and the visibility had improved, period! End of story!!! This tragic accident did not have to happen. It's unfortunate that many powerful people like Captains and others in power, hold our lives in their hands only to find out that they not only lack common sense, but they are also incompetent and answer only to promises that cannot be kept and their agenda/ego regardless of the danger ahead.... RIP! Poor souls.
Ohhh how awful to be treated so badly, he was a hero and the owners/bosses were pukes!! God bless you both for what you did and went thru, so sorry the best get treated the worst in life, but take heart Jesus was too+++🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹💐🏆🏆🏆🎇🎇🎇
Imagine surviving the sinking of the Titanic, just to be thrown not into one, but two world wars.
Not only is it crazy he requested binoculars and didn’t get them, it’s crazy that they didn’t already just have them up there, like standard protocol.
If you survive a disaster like Titanic AND fight for your country in a war you should be housed for the rest of your life. No rules. No charity. No hoops to jump through.
RIP Gentlemen Godspeed!
The reason they wasn’t given the binoculars is that the 1st mate was put ashore in Ireland and he took the key to the cabinet that had the binoculars in
"Met with tragic endings"????
The one Lookout was a hero in two wars and lived to be 78 years old. How is that tragic??? The little boy who is seen playing with his top on the deck of the ship; he died only three years later at the age of NINE after being struck by a car. THAT'S TRAGIC!!!!
So sad! 😢R.I.P. you guys❤
Did you know that one of them participated in the bringing soldiers back from France during the day evacuation of Dunkirk
That was Lightoller, the senior officer surviving.
A man who witnessed history.
Those guys are straight out of central casting
Oligarchs then are like oligarchs today. They truly see themselves as above the rest of us. The question today is as it was then. "Which side are you on?"
Omg, the first guys family should be compensated, this is a tragedy; he suffered directly and after he left, served his country and continued to suffer for many decades, finally killing himself after being evicted from his home, this is unacceptable. The other young man should have also been compensated his trauma,and been given a headstone.
I hate how the movie depicts them as being too busy staring at Jack and Rose kissing (fully clothed and not even going at it that hard) to even notice the iceberg. A little throw away scene like that can stain the reputation of someone hardcore. Not as bad as what they did to Murdough (any man who survived that night owes their survival to him) but still
Man back then people had depression from having things too hard and now days we have depression from having things too easy...
As for the first look out that was a WWI vet. I have Family that survived WWII as well as WWI I was fortunate to get to know them very well . like a lot of them they bottled it up and tried to put it behind them. soldiers and Civilians. From them opening up to me I figured between the War and the Titanic sinking he couldn't take it. how could you. He was a special kind of Man . R.I.P. they should have gave him the proper tools for the job.
The lookouts didn’t request binoculars only to be told no. The most junior officer got bumped off the crew at the last minute and left with his locker key which contained the binoculars.
Also if Frederick was born in 1887 then he was 52-53 when WW2 started. Not saying that he didn’t serve but if he did it was likely in some sort of rear role or home based role.
That is interesting. Thank you for sharing. That would’ve been very traumatic to live through.
I'm sad to hear that.
Fun fact. The missing binoculars are in a glass cabinet in an orange hall in Belfast Northern Ireland. They were stolen by a workman when they were fitting the ship out with her final touches. They have the white star line logo and from where on them.
So many contradictory stories about that ship. I’d understood the didn’t have the key to the cabinet…which, fair enough, probably wouldn’t stop a determined officer.
@@jaybee9269 correct. They'd have busted the lock or had another set of keys on a great big ship. If you're ever in Belfast, you can go see them. It'll settle it once and for all. It was a few years ago they turned up in an old house clear out with other bits and pieces and carpenters tools.
How were they verified? Everybody is dead. They (binoculars) were in demand across the fleet and may have been on another ship entirely. The suspicion of the former officer having the key wouldn't have mattered, yes.
What? The missing binoculars were in a locker on the ship herself. They were assigned to the vessel's second officer. When David Blair was replaced as second officer, he locked the binoculars inside and accidentally took the key with him. Not that it mattered, because Charles Lightoller presumably brought aboard his own. Everyone who was supposed to have binoculars on Titanic did. There was not a pair assigned to lookouts.
Ironic about the missing binoculars....
Survives the Titanic sinking goes to through world war and dies by his own hands. That's PTSD for sure. That's a hard life much respect for all you went through sad to see you take your own life. RIP
RIP 🪦 Fredrick Fleet
There was a set of binoculars. But it was locked away in a safe that they didn’t have the key to because someone who was supposed to be one of the lookouts didn’t get the job and locked it away.
WW1 Was enough trauma for anyone, can't imagine what piling on titanic and ww2 would do to a man
Seriously that had to have been hard
Truly tragic....and to think a guy who should have been ther had the keys 😣
I want a piece of that iceberg as a souvenir.
Wow! Binoculars might have averted this disaster.
Dude was the look out on the titanic, survived, served in the great War, survived, served in the second world War, survived.. and passes away because he's evicted at 78 years old and can't take it anymore? That's a fucking crime.. 2 time veteran and survivor of the titanic.. thats just horrible.
RIP 💙🙏
I think one of them served on Titanic's sister ship, HMHS Britannic.
Actually what alot of people don't think of is binos wouldn't have helped them in any way it was a moonless night you would just see more black with the binos
Binoculars would not have helped that much that night
So the titanic disaster was due to the 2 lookouts being refused binoculars ??
even with a binocular they couldn't see the iceberg due to there being a cold water mirage
Served his country in 2 World Wars abd got evicted at 78? Britain owes that man an apology!
Interesting if they did not spot the iceberg and the ship hit it head on, the ship would be badly damaged but won’t sink since not enough compartments would be breached
Interesting thing is they have determined now that the iceberg had nothing to do with the actual sinking what caused the problem was an overheated area where the cold was kept to run the ship that there was an out of control fire in that particular compartment since before they left harbor. It's pretty well been established now that that's what caused the the sinking and the explode there was an explosion in there.
The man must’ve HATED being known as a lookout, and they gathered money to put it on his tombstone forever 😢
Binoculars were not night enhancing then. Binoculars would have only been filled with darkness. Icebergs did not have little light houses. This apparently was an odd factor in today's thinking, but no one to my knowledge has stated that Binoculars would have saved Capt. Smith's hubris in not slowing.
Fact: I actually met Frederick Fleet’s granddaughter at a restaurant
I can't believe that on such an important ship with thousands of people on board, that they didn't have basic equipment to look out for icebergs. I mean they spared no expense to create luxury and opulence which is fine. But why couldn't they have provided the lookout staff with a powerful spot light and binoculars or a telescope. The ship's generators could have easily powered a large fresno lensed spot light affixed on a large tripod for scanning. The light could have been as powerful as a lighthouse light. That size of light could have been easy to power with the ship's powerful generators.
They went on to become top tier Premier League referees.
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wow i didnt know he killed himself!!! thats sad ive seen so many documentaries but i never learned he took his life
Binos would not be of any use. Icebergs are black on a black night. My Great Uncle was a ships captain and did that route often The only warning is the smell and any waves breaking around the base. Binos require light to work as they reduce depth of vision at night. The Frederick Fleet statement was to the Americzn inquiry where he was asked a yes or no answer without expanding the answer and under pressure.
It’s very hard to see through binoculars when it’s pitch black outside in the night. I don’t think think binoculars would have helped
The other lookout is never much talked about strangely
Hmmm I Wonder why
Thank you federal reserve for this
He joined Peaky Blinders
2 wars and the titanic. Rough isn't even a twelfth of it.
Its wasn't the Iceberg, it was JP Morgan
That’s absolutely terrible. It sickens me.
Veterans are still committing suicide today because of the way they are treated. very sad
And the newsboy holding the news of the disaster died in WW1…
I honestly don’t think binoculars would have made a difference after dark. You would probably still have to be practically on top of it to see.
The didn’t that day, but it killed them 😢
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No. Lookouts would not have spotted the iceberg and prevented the sinking of the boat.
Should have gone to Specsavers.
I mean, it's sad, but people make mistakes. It was their fault. They should have made sure they had binoculars since it was their job...
How very sad.
So sank for a “happenies worth of tar “ as the saying goes only it was binoculars in this case but same principle applies .
Why would they be granted binoculars? After all the titanic was "un-sinkable"
I had a grandmother sister die on the ship she was in first class
*I smell something behind something going on.* Both of these and other Titanic survivors mysteriously died?
Brave brave souls
How would they have seen that part of the iceberg that was under the water?
It’s common knowledge that over 95% of a bergs mass is under the waterline.
Honestly binoculars wouldn't have made a difference because they would not have been using them at night
They used them at night all the time however they were not usually used to find objects. They were used to inspect/confirm object that were spotted by naked eyes.
It was a dark, still moonless night. You need light to be able to see out of binoculars, if they of used them that night they would’ve seen less not more.
Also everyone on Titanic was going through a mirage affect so things looked further than they actually were.
Travelling from the warm gulf to the freezing Atlantic caused the temperatures to rapidly change
its possible binoculars could’ve made it harder to spot cause although you can see much further with binoculars you cant see much around you like you can with your normal eyes its really just something that would’ve been a 50/50 chance
PTSD ..I guess
Woww mighty Jesus Christ in the name of you heavenly Father holy Spirit forgive him for taking his own life stress that comes with so many other pressure it's not easy 🙏🙏
Wow! How very sad.😮
Frederick Fleet is my grandmothers, sisters’, husbands’ father.
So feckin sad and an abusuve life..not helped, chucked out at an old age? It happens today- I've seen it.
Our species is capable of greatness and absolutely cruelty.
You'd think, just one of those rich people she'd, wouod have keot an eye put for him
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Titanic, two wars, eviction...no wonder he took his own life.
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Scientists believe that even with binoculars it wouldn't have mattered due to the cold air mirages.
won't it actually see through the Mirage?
all so most scientists said it probably didn't break in half...
OfCourse today we know Titanic Broke like a Taco
Evidence is conflicting, If they had a spot light like some ships did, and binoculars yeah it would of survived. Even if they did have binoculars it still would of survived, just limping.
@@joshuauriarte452 I’m a cruise ship officer I can’t begin to tell you how wrong you are.
What an Olympic tragedy!
*Titanic
some people were actually rather happy with the event of the tragedy...
there was one chick from the 3d class!
she was unhinged like someone from TikTok!
she survived and sent a telegram to her relatives
saying: "I witnessed Titanic go down, everyone screaming... such a historic event... IT WAS AWESOME!!! I'm glad I saw it"
and she was a Third Class Chick mind you!
Sad for fleet...how could he have no where to go after serving in two world wars
Wow..ww1 and ww2 vet..titanic witness..and gets evicted..wtf..sometimes some people should get a pass
His brother in law kicked him out after Fredericks wife died suddenly. Poor guy ended up killing himself. 😢
you think he deserved it cuz he killed people? everyone deserves a roof over their head no matter what they did for four years after high school bro. change your backwards thinking of “only some people dont deserve to be homeless”
Would you pay his rent? I do not disagree with your point. But somebody has to pay the bills 💵.
@@gaynorpatterson2915thanks 👍 for the additional information
@@CAROLDDISCOVER-1983I would verify that if it is at all possible. Some people get a kick out of lying about things.
people who lived during the early 20th century lived through a lot of hell, the Great Depression, both world wars, and great tragedies like the Titanic sinking.
and we had 9/11
getting into third WW
economy faces utter collapse
the governments are corrupt to the core
civil unrest
all that changed since the early 20th century, was the fashion and the technology...
Yep. We got it pretty good....so far.
Lived through all that and passed away at the age of 77 years old. What he must have witnessed in his live was unbelievable to even imagine. He should have lived his last few years a hero.
@@woomeebly I don’t think you understand on what’s happening right now? They the elite ( g20 summit) have explained the total destruction of society to build back authoritarian totalitarianism. Destroying energy wealth and freedoms
World wars were manipulated for wealth not freedom