SUSPENSION FOR THE BIG TANK

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
  • This is the suspension of the new Big Tank, and BIG is the word, please let me know your thoughts in the comments, me? I really got surprised by the size of it, the 3D model doesn't do justice to it.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 297

  • @Culky
    @Culky 5 років тому +138

    I wonder if AprintaPro are beginning to regret this sponsorship

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому +42

      Oh no, they are in!! In fact they gave some inspiration for this build. For the size that is.

    • @zfrenchy1716
      @zfrenchy1716 5 років тому +9

      @@ivanmirandawastaken 8:09 100Kg !!!! that is 100 spools !!!!!

    • @wtcamer
      @wtcamer 5 років тому +9

      @@ivanmirandawastaken That's amazing to hear. I was worried as well. LOL! That's one heck of a company. You can tell they love what they do. I'm sure this sponsorship makes them money, but their support is invaluable. So awesome to see someone like them backing a youtuber as awesome as you!

    • @ThomasTheFapEngine
      @ThomasTheFapEngine 5 років тому +9

      I'm wondering if Ivan sends his failed parts back to be recycled

    • @mooncabbagere
      @mooncabbagere 5 років тому +4

      Thomas The Fap Engine They could get Ivan to sign the boxes and sell them at a premium as genuine Ivan Miranda Failures :)

  • @ddewaard3265
    @ddewaard3265 5 років тому +35

    For future wheels: try printing wheels with an uneven amount of spokes (5 or so). this helps distribute the force over the spokes and makes sure spokes get less of a peak pressure.
    I believe it's the reason why most cars have an uneven amount of spokes. again, most often 5 spokes

    • @SadRNGesus
      @SadRNGesus 5 років тому

      5 Spokes are often used, because its the best combination of distributing the force and weight saving(/Material cost)

  • @christiandolz6334
    @christiandolz6334 5 років тому +37

    You lost your mind. I LOVE IT

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому +10

      Yep, if you see it please let me know.

    • @oldestnerd
      @oldestnerd 5 років тому +3

      @@ivanmirandawastaken To find your mind - Just follow the trail of abandoned spacers...

    • @RomanoPRODUCTION
      @RomanoPRODUCTION 5 років тому

      Understatement 💝

  • @user-vm5zw1no6o
    @user-vm5zw1no6o 5 років тому +71

    In a couple of months Ivan will probably have made a full size functional tank and everyone who didn’t subscribe yet will regret their decision.

    • @nevyen149
      @nevyen149 5 років тому +10

      I keep 'saying', Ivan is going to be the one who invents Sky Net...
      In the future, 'we' will be crushed into submission by battle droids with cheery red PLA treads!

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому +12

      How much do you want to stay silent?

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому +11

      Mwahahahahah

    • @user-vm5zw1no6o
      @user-vm5zw1no6o 5 років тому +2

      100kg of printapros great PETG filament or I’ll get the government involved 🙃

    • @ferdyanptr
      @ferdyanptr 5 років тому

      Lol

  • @unogazzy84
    @unogazzy84 5 років тому +19

    The tank is gonna be huge!
    If this tank will be similarly designed as the other 'big' one then please don't use threaded rod as the connection between the chassis and the suspension! It will bend. Use propper shafts and thicker aswell.

  • @wtcamer
    @wtcamer 5 років тому +13

    You really need a printer w/ a 1mm nozzle for this lol. Maybe larger xD. I've seen some pretty empressive speeds w/ decent 1mm nozzle printers. The prints are also MUCH stronger.

  • @EmilysElectricOddities
    @EmilysElectricOddities 5 років тому +4

    A day with a new Ivan video is a pretty good day

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому +1

      Yay!!! That Lissajukebox that you made is no joke Either, Come on people, go and check it out in Emily's channel!!

    • @EmilysElectricOddities
      @EmilysElectricOddities 5 років тому +1

      @@ivanmirandawastaken Thank you, Ivan! :)

  • @ChannelJanis
    @ChannelJanis 5 років тому +1

    I love Aprintapro PC-ABS FILAMENT. I upgraded my CR10s with Duet Wifi, E3D V6 hotend and direct drive extruder, 220V heatbed, better belts, y axis put on rod bearings. Now I am able to print such difficult materials. Oh, and no enclosure for now.

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому

      I'm doing my trials with that exact filament and it is INDESTRUCTIBLE.

  • @BrainSlugs83
    @BrainSlugs83 5 років тому

    I really enjoy the multiple Ivan segments. I hope you do one where one Ivan holds something steady while the other tightens the bolts. Or maybe one holds the ladder for you, or one where there is an Ivan randomly sweeping up the shop in the background. XD

  • @AMBrikaer
    @AMBrikaer 5 років тому +2

    Oh boy, tears kept rolling because of your enthusiasm. Thank you so much and: please make a video every day...

  • @JonathanKayne
    @JonathanKayne 5 років тому

    Its always good to watch an Ivan Miranda video after you finish making something!

  • @Cooliemasteroz
    @Cooliemasteroz 5 років тому +1

    I HAVE AN IDEA. I have recently been thinking of a way to over come one of the disadvantages of tracks. The disadvantage that I’m thinking of is that that when you try to turn on soft soil or sand the material builds up and you waste a lot of power pushing sand or soil. It’s also not so good to get too much muck around your wheels and suspension. It would be better if the tracks could be designed to ramp over any soil build up. The solution may be hard to describe without drawing but here it goes. First of all I don’t think a simple parabolic shape is quiet good enough. I think that you need to somehow compact the material before or as you begin to ramp over it. If you could make each link maybe twice or three times as long and twice as thick you could then have a V shaped void at each side of the track which is deepest on the outside and as it gets shallow towards the centre of the track link it will also get narrower. It should come up to the normal outside surface of the track well before the centre, say one third of the way. This might end up needing to be a wider track. It might also be an advantage if the the edges of the void are also beveled rather than just a vertical wall, otherwise you’re back to pushing instead of ramping. Even if it doesn’t save power at least it might help to serve the original purpose of tracks which is to not sink in the ground. I don’t have or intend to patent this idea and I don’t know if anyone else has. I would like to see you experiment with it since you have the resources and I don’t and I would just like to see if my idea works, maybe you could even improve on my idea. Love your videos cos they are very entertaining.

  • @aquarel9150
    @aquarel9150 5 років тому +8

    suspense for the big tank!

  • @meetim2931
    @meetim2931 5 років тому

    Classic that your humming tune while looking for your file matches the backing music

  • @MakersMic
    @MakersMic 5 років тому +2

    Try using ptfe washers/ spacers. They will resist any type heat that would be caused by friction, plus it would keep things running smooth.

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому +2

      There's no friction, the spacers in this case would be used to spaciate the bearing against the bracket and the spacer would be conical so it only touches the static part of the bearing.

    • @MakersMic
      @MakersMic 5 років тому +1

      @@ivanmirandawastaken sounds like plan bro. Look forward to seeing the big guy in action. Love the vids, keep up the hard work :)

  • @mindblown2835
    @mindblown2835 5 років тому +2

    So fricking awesome! I love your design style, everything down to the chamfers are beautiful!

  • @arvicz22
    @arvicz22 5 років тому +2

    Talk about suspension... it's been a while since the last tank update! JK, no complaints here, really enjoying the CNC mill videos too!

  • @joelverboom8467
    @joelverboom8467 5 років тому +2

    Im pretty hiped for that massive tank

  • @aitorcuartango
    @aitorcuartango 5 років тому

    This project will be great! I want to see It running!!!

  • @paulb8264
    @paulb8264 5 років тому

    You should do a co-lab with someone like Prusa and see how fast they could print your parts in their farm. It would be awesome to see all the parts get printed all at once
    Also I really hope those little pivot shafts can handle the stress of holding up the tank and driving.

  • @DavidGomez-jf7bx
    @DavidGomez-jf7bx 5 років тому

    the wheel's design is awesome!!!

  • @humboldtef
    @humboldtef 5 років тому

    We definitely cant fault you for sticking with the madness

  • @eclipsestorm1975
    @eclipsestorm1975 5 років тому

    Who ever sells you your string must love you. That's a lot of plastic. Can't wait to see it. SPACERS!

  • @joshuascreatives2281
    @joshuascreatives2281 5 років тому

    Ivan use the right tool to the right work

  • @thomasandreatta2989
    @thomasandreatta2989 5 років тому +1

    Good decision to split the carriage, I always cut down models to make them more resistant.
    By the way, that's a lot of plastic. And SPACERS!!!!!
    I love R/Cs 3d printed projects, and now I'm anxiously waiting to see the chassis. It must be huge.
    That's sure, there will be huge SPACERS!!! Right?
    You're crazy Ivan!

  • @otto85521
    @otto85521 5 років тому

    Please always add a 10s timelap of your prints. This time e.g. a timelap of the 100hrs+ printing, including a watch spinning like a propeller. I really love to see some of your prints, also if it fails. 10s is not too much and printing is always part of your work.

  • @Rouverius
    @Rouverius 5 років тому

    First, I was not sure if I'm more envious of your printers' build volume or your clone army. And then I realized you are about to have an amazing tank too.

  • @GregAtlas
    @GregAtlas 5 років тому

    The suspense is uplifting.

  • @katzendrama823
    @katzendrama823 5 років тому +1

    You have very good bearings...

  • @bertiewhiteford3960
    @bertiewhiteford3960 5 років тому +1

    I was wondering why there as tape on the vice and patients proved useful. Great work Ivan.

  • @baschz
    @baschz 5 років тому

    thanks for that last shot. I couldn't stop wondering what I had seen! :) this is going to be so epic. I can't wait!

  • @benhitchcock3057
    @benhitchcock3057 5 років тому

    You are delightfully insane. Like a modern bohemian. I love your videos. Keep it up!

  • @tankkiler308
    @tankkiler308 5 років тому

    Wonderful project, the small tank was one reason i first subscribed. I know your dedicated to making it all 3d printed but for suspension i would highly suggest getting rc shocks or something like them instead of that spring. You can swap springs and higher end ones even allow you to dial in the strength

  • @rklauco
    @rklauco 5 років тому +6

    You're still optimistic and want to mount the suspension by M8 rod? :) Not enough bending so far?
    Btw, the Aprintapro PET-G is amazing, thanks for pointing me out to them.

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому +2

      Ahhhh, it is going to be mounted by M8 rod but not like the last big tank but like the Mark III mini tank... (wink wink) And yes AprintaPro rules!!!! Cheers Robert!

    • @matesaktesak
      @matesaktesak 5 років тому

      I bought 4 kg of petg and prints amazing! Only the shipping was a bit of a trouble...

    • @rklauco
      @rklauco 5 років тому

      @@matesaktesakYeah, I also had problems, but due to DHL, not AprintaPro problem. However, I like the 1kg spools more as they use cardboard for spool - much better than the bulky plastic 4kg spool for me.

  • @kikller
    @kikller 5 років тому

    that is gorgeous

  • @Wodpuncher001
    @Wodpuncher001 4 роки тому

    Yes I want this stack of filament too

  • @richardhathaway2901
    @richardhathaway2901 5 років тому

    Next time you crank up the printer, might I suggest that you print a comb. Red would be a nice colour.

  • @olegtitov6679
    @olegtitov6679 5 років тому

    You really need a softer spring, Ivan. You've loaded one out of the four (or out of the six?) track carts with your full weight (which should be about 1/2 - 1/3 of the weight of the completed tank) and it gave almost no amortization. You can replace this spring with a solid piece of plastic or get rid of the flexible suspension entirely and have the same result.

  • @kenbro2801
    @kenbro2801 5 років тому

    Well done excellent project

  • @GRPZ66
    @GRPZ66 5 років тому +1

    Only one thing to say: WOW!!

  • @crazydutchbloke
    @crazydutchbloke 5 років тому +1

    If this channel and projects keeps growing like this we will have a 1 to 1 scale tank next year.

  • @mrfochs
    @mrfochs 5 років тому

    With the wheels (and other cylinder parts) always printing with the layer lines perpendicular to the axle, there is always a chance for failure. It may make sense with the scale this is getting, to deign the wheel center hole to be large enough for a tube that serves as a bushing for the axle rod. This would ensure that any stress placed on the wheel laterally would be spread over the length of the piece and not transferred into a possible layer adhesion failure.

  • @Hammersmash3dFace
    @Hammersmash3dFace 5 років тому

    Wow i'm impressed. what huge parts and days/weeks of printing.

  • @PatiShorti
    @PatiShorti 5 років тому +2

    Hi,
    I have been following your channel for a little bit now and I really enjoy what you do.
    Your projects are crazy and fund and your editing always makes me laugh because its awesome :D
    Keep up the great "work" ^^

  • @mcdura
    @mcdura 5 років тому +12

    have you considered 3D printing then casting for duplicate parts?

  • @4lm0n0
    @4lm0n0 5 років тому

    Hola Ivan. Prueba a imprimir las cadenas sobre superficies rugosas para darle más agarre. Creality tiene para su Cr-10. Un saludo.

  • @eliasperezmoreno9603
    @eliasperezmoreno9603 5 років тому

    Madre mia que ganas de ver al tanque, que pasada, enhorabuena y gracias por lo que haces 👌

  • @TD3DMakes
    @TD3DMakes 5 років тому

    Awesome Ivan! That suspension works so good!

  • @AntonDolgoff
    @AntonDolgoff 5 років тому

    Ivan, you maniac of the 3-d printing!

  • @Terranota
    @Terranota 5 років тому +2

    I... CAN'T... BELIEVE... THE... SIZE... OF... THAT... THING. Are you crazy or what?. Awesome! Are you gonna print any kind of Rubber threads or it will be like the "small" one?

    • @lukedavid8099
      @lukedavid8099 5 років тому

      As far as i understand he doesn't put rubber on the treads so that it can turn without having too much traction. It needs to skid-steer.

  • @jesondag
    @jesondag 5 років тому

    You really need some larger hardened shafts for this. Those threaded rods are quickly going to bend.

  • @goiko_3980
    @goiko_3980 5 років тому

    Tiene pintada, grande Ivan!

  • @ryanwolfenberger
    @ryanwolfenberger 5 років тому +2

    Ivan! You're the highlight of my day. Great build.... ("Sigh", I need a more exciting life)

  • @tommywikstrom9100
    @tommywikstrom9100 5 років тому

    This tank is going to be a monster 0.0!

  • @DaveGee2010
    @DaveGee2010 5 років тому

    Please if you like this channel - Spread the word... Its really a shame Ivan still hasn't broken the 100k mark! It seems he's been treading water @ 85 to 95k for months.... This channel really needs to be in the triple digits already! Let's make it happen this week!

  • @SoftmanCZ
    @SoftmanCZ 5 років тому

    That id a hell of a PET-G and printing time. But I love the size comparison to the older one... 😂🤣

  • @3DPrintingNerd
    @3DPrintingNerd 5 років тому +2

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • @najehmasmoudi3496
    @najehmasmoudi3496 5 років тому +1

    UA-cam you had only one job and that is to notify me when a new gets posted
    Gosh darned
    Imagine a life with no Ivan Miranda

  • @UnexpectedMaker
    @UnexpectedMaker 5 років тому

    Damn! That is a lot of printing... and such long hours per part... When do we get a new tour of the 3D printer farm? :D

  • @Kapten_R3
    @Kapten_R3 5 років тому

    I see you're going big

  • @holemajora598
    @holemajora598 5 років тому

    I was wondering when the tank was going to making an appearance.
    Can’t wait to see it!!

  • @Sqtgdog
    @Sqtgdog 5 років тому

    Have you thought of trying "C" shaped spacers? Could reduce both material use and installation time.

  • @ahxb4
    @ahxb4 5 років тому +4

    You're scaling everything, except the metal axis... will it support such a mount of weight??? I would go on a 25mm tubing instead of 8mm rod.

  • @ianmcnab9534
    @ianmcnab9534 5 років тому

    That is a lot of printing there Ivan

  • @burke6176
    @burke6176 5 років тому

    Cant wait to see this thing come to life Haha great job!

  • @badw01f23
    @badw01f23 5 років тому

    What!?!? He's making the tank even bigger!? Ivan, you mad man! 😂❤ i love this. Everyone, strap in, we're in for one hell of a ride

  • @camcam-uw5mx
    @camcam-uw5mx 5 років тому

    Sir you have lost your mind and I love it

  • @PeachState112
    @PeachState112 5 років тому

    Fast forward to this time next year and Ivan is driving around in his full size 3d printed tank.

  • @oceanman8125
    @oceanman8125 5 років тому

    Absolute madman , i love it!

  • @theclueless11212
    @theclueless11212 5 років тому +4

    I think you should use stretching surgical tubing instead of printed springs. Stronger and more elastic

  • @thinkhelpservice
    @thinkhelpservice 5 років тому +2

    Hey Ivan, took your advice and made something! Coffee :)

  • @welbot
    @welbot 5 років тому

    So much suspense watching you tread on those rods! Glad you didn't tank and hurt yourself! 😂

  • @Putelquelee
    @Putelquelee 5 років тому

    Eres un loquillo. I like it. Greetings desde Argentina

  • @elogan5817
    @elogan5817 5 років тому

    Man, I can't wait to see the insanity finally coming together! I'd suggest to call it the GIANT tank so that new people don't confuse these videos with the old big tank

  • @yanito1979
    @yanito1979 5 років тому +1

    Amazing can't wait to see it!

  • @moab5102
    @moab5102 5 років тому

    Hi Ivan
    I love how big is your Tank.
    Do you know what will be even Better?
    a full size 3D printed TANK.
    That would be awesome as no one has attempted to do it yet

  • @RomanoPRODUCTION
    @RomanoPRODUCTION 5 років тому +2

    This is madness. Red madness 💟💟💟 But it's fun. thanks APrintapro

  • @lukamilenkovic5097
    @lukamilenkovic5097 5 років тому +1

    LOVE your videos and things you make, you have inspired me(edit: "me" ) quite some time ago to "go and make something" . Thank you so much. Keep up the good work and good luck with that massive thing.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 5 років тому

    Fantastic, Ivan!!! 😃
    You should definitely try some TPU filaments!!!

  • @guillaumep.7206
    @guillaumep.7206 5 років тому

    Man, you are crazy!!!! I love it!

  • @JAYTEEAU
    @JAYTEEAU 5 років тому

    Awesome stuff Ivan, great to a 1,000 of hours of printing on the table at once. Cheers, JAYTEE

  • @laureven
    @laureven 5 років тому

    You are genuinely super fun person to be around :). (Please be because I can only judge from Your videos, and if You are not ...I will find You :) ) ...Regards :)

  • @philcopain56
    @philcopain56 5 років тому +1

    OMG it's going to be Insane :)

  • @dreggory82
    @dreggory82 5 років тому

    All the things you learned from the smaller version will help, but now that you are scaling it up you will find new strains and stresses that you didn't account for. This will get expensive and time consuming. I like others comments about using moulds for duplicates, much faster.

  • @antonpersson99
    @antonpersson99 5 років тому +1

    Wouldn't it be better to print Belleville washers instead of the spring you're currently using? I think you should be able to use them directly without modifying the suspension piece by using the threaded rod.

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому

      1st question: How would that improve the performance?
      2nd question: How would you print a Belleville washer without having layers orthogonally positioned to the force vector?

    • @antonpersson99
      @antonpersson99 5 років тому

      @@ivanmirandawastaken 1. More springing and a quite resistant suspension. Also less plastic when printing as they are smaller overall. If one washer breaks it's easier to replace than one whole spring.
      2. I don't exactly understand what this means, but as to how to print it I would say dissolvable support material or print it with support and cut/file it away.

    • @antonpersson99
      @antonpersson99 5 років тому

      @@ivanmirandawastaken oh, and you can rearrange the washers if you need a different spring constant or change the amount of deflection

  • @mynameiswayne.
    @mynameiswayne. 5 років тому

    Hi Ivan, Have you thought of printing with a 0.8mm or 1mm Nozzle to reduce print times on this project?, i doubt the difference in fidelity will matter too much at this scale...plus the strength will be much better

  • @CerebralDad
    @CerebralDad 5 років тому

    you next project should be a machine to recycle filament - like a wood chipper meets an extruder :D

  • @seeminglyRANDOM88
    @seeminglyRANDOM88 5 років тому

    TANK you for this video!

  • @bobbiac
    @bobbiac 5 років тому

    At this size, you are probably better off with urethane bushings instead of printed springs. Also you are going to need fender washers or CNC'ed brackets to spread any significant loads on the ends of your threaded rods.

  • @dmio7905
    @dmio7905 5 років тому

    i love the filament!

  • @gameplaykanal____6899
    @gameplaykanal____6899 5 років тому

    Can't wait to see the next videos about the new tank. Keep up the good work Ivan Miranda, love all of you'r videos. You are such an inspiration for all of us ^^!

  • @gheetza14
    @gheetza14 5 років тому

    Nice.

  • @Slajsicek
    @Slajsicek 5 років тому

    I hope that your channel grows fast enough for you to afford a helper... To help you move this thing around once it's finished :D

  • @_scooter98_92
    @_scooter98_92 5 років тому

    Might be slightly too late, but have you considered going full absurd and using quad tracks as opposed to dual tracks? Like the Halo UNSC Scorpion

  • @SteveGameDE
    @SteveGameDE 5 років тому +1

    You need to build some vise attachments like _Evan and Katelyn_ did!

    • @ivanmirandawastaken
      @ivanmirandawastaken  5 років тому

      Haha, yes! In fact I did, but I destroyed them of using them too much. Once I buy a bigger vice I might. Thanks!!

  • @Aleinux
    @Aleinux 5 років тому

    Crazy...I love

  • @matthewguiher3248
    @matthewguiher3248 5 років тому

    Dude Ivan install volcano hotends on your 3D printers. You will get faster prints that are MUCH stronger.

  • @KullyKiat
    @KullyKiat 5 років тому +1

    Are we going to get more? I really enjoyed this series

  • @NoNicNoName
    @NoNicNoName 5 років тому

    Crazy 👍

  • @jamesdenney9653
    @jamesdenney9653 5 років тому

    Dang it, Ivan! If you keep making these things bigger, you're going to have to start printing SEATS for them!

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 5 років тому

      Start gutting a ride on mower to drive a generator to run this tank. Electric drive is still go though.