Hello and thanks for the great explanations regarding difference in what is "steering" and what is "cornering". I've got a question regarding handlebar position in the clamps (dirt bike perspective). I've heard people say that if you rotate the handlebars closer to yourself the steering becomes "slower", and vice-versa if you rotate them more towards the front (as on trials bikes) - then the steering becomes "quicker" or more "nimble/responsive". Could you please elaborate on this subject and explain why is this so and how does it tie into the concepts of cornering/steering you explained in this video? Thanks!
If wanting more front end grip as pushing or washing the front grip if trying carry anymore corner speed. Should go to more offset triple clamp loke a 22mm vs 18/20 option have or look for like a 16 or 13mm offset?
Terry, thanks for the explanation. How did you find the geometry on your DRZ400E? Did you raise the forks and what number did you settle with on the rear sag?
The DRZ could use a bit more feel in the front. I'm 6'3" 105kgs and I run 95mm in the rear. A shorter person would run more sag. For me, the caps only are through the clamps.
WOW, super interessting and you got me wondering about my bike setup I ride supermoto and was experiencing a lot of front end chatter my bike has a adjustable headangle, it is set 1° steeper, I am wondering if a slacker headangle could help the situation? or in general, does a slacker headangle helps with front end traction?
More trail/Rake will provide more grip and reduce chatter. For motard we are generally reducing triple clamp offset significantly. If yours is a converted MX bike then you have suffered with the wheel diameter change. The front axle has effectively been lowered 2" whilst the rear has been lowered1. This needs to be rectified. Given that you have an adjustable steering angle would suggest you have a more elaborate motorcycle.
@@shocktreatment5495 yes, it is a proper supermoto from husqvarna (sm 450 rr) with a short offset triple clamp, but nevertheless I experience wheel chatter quiet often Would you recommend shortening the wheelbase and slacken the steering angle to keep the handling great and fix the chattering?
by increasing the swing angle at the rear (measure relative to ground). or by raising the triple clamps higher at the front (aka dropping the fork tubes in triples). or by doing both. both steps will have the effect of changing the swingarm angle, which in turn will change antisquat characteristics of the bike and make it understeer less on exit.
Those stickers should be everywhere! Haha
Great explanation Terry, that was so much easier to relate what is happening with geometry changes.
Great video! Thank you.
Thanks Geoff
Amazing content - thanks so much!
good stuff
Hello and thanks for the great explanations regarding difference in what is "steering" and what is "cornering".
I've got a question regarding handlebar position in the clamps (dirt bike perspective). I've heard people say that if you rotate the handlebars closer to yourself the steering becomes "slower", and vice-versa if you rotate them more towards the front (as on trials bikes) - then the steering becomes "quicker" or more "nimble/responsive". Could you please elaborate on this subject and explain why is this so and how does it tie into the concepts of cornering/steering you explained in this video?
Thanks!
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If wanting more front end grip as pushing or washing the front grip if trying carry anymore corner speed. Should go to more offset triple clamp loke a 22mm vs 18/20 option have or look for like a 16 or 13mm offset?
Terry, thanks for the explanation. How did you find the geometry on your DRZ400E? Did you raise the forks and what number did you settle with on the rear sag?
The DRZ could use a bit more feel in the front. I'm 6'3" 105kgs and I run 95mm in the rear. A shorter person would run more sag. For me, the caps only are through the clamps.
Great video, Terry. But one question - do grip warmers improve steering?
No idea......I don't hang out with that sort of people. I'm guessing you don't know the score from last nights NRL Grand Final
@@shocktreatment5495 oh. There was a footy game on?
WOW, super interessting and you got me wondering about my bike setup
I ride supermoto and was experiencing a lot of front end chatter
my bike has a adjustable headangle, it is set 1° steeper, I am wondering if a slacker headangle could help the situation?
or in general, does a slacker headangle helps with front end traction?
More trail/Rake will provide more grip and reduce chatter. For motard we are generally reducing triple clamp offset significantly. If yours is a converted MX bike then you have suffered with the wheel diameter change. The front axle has effectively been lowered 2" whilst the rear has been lowered1. This needs to be rectified. Given that you have an adjustable steering angle would suggest you have a more elaborate motorcycle.
@@shocktreatment5495 yes, it is a proper supermoto from husqvarna (sm 450 rr) with a short offset triple clamp, but nevertheless I experience wheel chatter quiet often
Would you recommend shortening the wheelbase and slacken the steering angle to keep the handling great and fix the chattering?
@@tobiasjacobs4782 What is the offset of your triple clamp?
I'm not totally sure but either 13 or 15 mm
@tobiasjacobs4782 is it running air forks? How much fork travel are you using ? It may be a cause of too much Compression or air fork is too stiff
How do i solve corner exit under steer issue if i do not have access to adjustable clamps or fork legs? For supermoto
by increasing the swing angle at the rear (measure relative to ground). or by raising the triple clamps higher at the front (aka dropping the fork tubes in triples). or by doing both. both steps will have the effect of changing the swingarm angle, which in turn will change antisquat characteristics of the bike and make it understeer less on exit.
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