Aclaro que no esta completo el documental ya que youtube no me lo deja subir completo pero faltan solo 15 minutos, despues de eso lo importante pasa dentro de estos 40 minutos. gracias por compartir y ponerle like
Loved Johnny Mac, cried when he broke into rage fits because this flow of genius, of pure beauty in his shots suddenly got torn to pieces and thrown into a ditch or worse, then there was the crowd booing adding to my despair and whether he eventually won or lost a match, it was so difficult to defend him at school vs the Borg fans....still think to this day noone ever came up with a more beautiful serve or return of serve than his; the way his whole body and not just the racquet redirected the speed of a power serve into far and unreachable corners was just magic. Title of this doco is Fire & Ice but Johnny deserves his own title : Chaos & Divine Harmony. My greatest heartbreak tho was seeing him beat by Lendl in the RG Final. Barely remember much tennis after that match until Federer came along.
I was able to see the full documentary. The remaining part is pretty melancholic esp as it charts the career of McEnroe who could never achieve the heights he had the genius and talent for. As one of the commentators says: the day Borg retired was the day the music died for McEnroe. Wonderful documentary with haunting visuals and music.
An excellent video, well done! In retrospect how fortunate I was to have seen these two champions in their prime slugging it out at major tournaments. Others came before them like Laver and Rosewall, Newcombe v Emerson, and afterwards like Sampras v Agassiz, and Nadal v Federer.
I cant argue with that. This was the first tennis match that transcended the sport. I remember as a 16 year old in 1980 walking down Kilburn High Road. And people were packed in this Dixons shop. They had the volume up on the T.V and everyone was transfixed by this tie break. It went into legend. And its only grown with the passage of time.
As a 5 year old boy, from Chelsea in London. I was able to take short journeys, from there to Wimbledon. With my parents. It was still free for me, and I remember watching Borg in 1973, he was like a rock star. Long flying hair, with girls screaming his name on the practice courts. My parents couldn't understand this "new type" 😂 By this time 1980, of playing McEnroe, his stress was starting to tell. Overhyped typically British critical media. He won this match and 5 Wimbledon titles "on the trot" 1981 was a turning point and McEnroe took him in the final In my opinion Borg was the greatest. He retired at 26 for goodness sake and won 11 Grand Slams McEnroe peaked in 1984; Tatum O'Neil being his undoing.
It is so unfortunate that Borg retired after the 1981 us open final, but it was a good thing for McEnroe because he was No.1 in 82, 83, 84, and 85. And you have to admit that’s pretty AMAZING!
Don't agree As a 5 year old boy, from Chelsea in London. I was able to take short journeys, from there to Wimbledon. With my parents. It was still free for me, and I remember watching Borg in 1973, he was like a rock star. Long flying hair, with girls screaming his name on the practice courts. My parents couldn't understand this "new type" 😂 By this time 1980, of playing McEnroe, his stress was starting to tell. Overhyped typically British critical media. He won this match and 5 Wimbledon titles "on the trot" 1981 was a turning point and McEnroe took him in the final In my opinion Borg was the greatest. He retired at 26 for goodness sake and won 11 Grand Slams McEnroe peaked in 1984; Tatum O'Neil being his undoing.
Sorry have to disagree: Borg's retirement was not a good thing for McEnroe. Borg's leaving the game abruptly, left Mac bereft. It took away his edge and allowed Jimmy Connors (who was always a fighter) to dislodge Mac. I wish Borg had continued. We would have seen some high-quality matches. Borg's comeback bid in the nineties was pathetic.
Great documentry that ended abruptly. I was a Borg man. Loved his demeanor, class, and indestructableness. The superbrat motif of McEnroe was what I expected from a New Yorker. Yes talent, obviously and had the key to Bjorn. Winning at all cost is a NY mantra (and look at the results in NYC now by the way), but I prefer class. Dont care about any other "inferior" view. It isn't what you do. It is how you do. Had we followed that mantra, we would be a much better country today. It is what got us here
@@steffanhoffmann They are called typos. drop the p and you get do. And , I do know how to spell followed. Dang... I should have proof read. And certainly criticizing Globalism that is in all the Western nations, except Russia and Hungary and suckoing the life out of them. South Africa? I wouldn't live there for all the tea in China. No telling what is going on that is not being reported. Good luck friend.
Borgs demeanor and class was why I didn't like him. I've grown since then. Now, I can only stand on his shoulders. He was and still is - THE example of class and fire.
Wait... He beat Connors in straight sets at 20 yrs old!? Normally, it's all downhill from there. What an achievement! To top that again and again was amazing!
Ill go to my grave thinking that Borg retired because of McEnroe, and knowing he was no longer as good, when both played well. That being said, I love the guy. He was special. NOBODY was winning French's and Wimbledons back to back like that. Back then, those two surfaces could not play more differently.
I agree with you. And sometimes I wonder if Borg's retirement was his way of taking revenge on Mac for his defeats. It certainly left John bereft and disconsolate.
Bjorn, you are 1 year and 4 months younger than I. Why did you sell your home on Forest Drive, Sands Point, New York? My father's business was in Port Washington, New York. I was young and wanted my parents to build a home on the other side of the street from your newly constructed home on the cliffs on Forest Drive. I use to park on their land to go down the easement to the beach. Everything changes. You would have been a very interesting person to know. I'm a very interesting person to know too. But everything changes, everything changes...all of life becomes a memory. Everything changes and is in our hands for a second and in the blink of an eye, all of the external changes. We only ever have our inner selves for strength.
Was Bjorn the very first person to live in THAT spectacular house on Forest Drive? I believe the house was completed in 1979 and designed by Norman Jaffe. What year did Bjorn sell the house? 1984? He divorced his lovely wife Mariana in 1984. I'm WITH YOU Albert, regarding THAT LOVELY state of the art/contemporary/futuristic house. WHY did you sell it, Bjorn????? He should've stayed married to Mariana! She truly loved him! She was very pretty w/ a nice personality! And, Bjorn should've kept the lovely Forest Drive home! My guess is Bjorn lived there, roughly, between 1979 and 1984. As he was divorcing Mariana in 1984 he met a 17 year young Swedish girl & decided to move back to Stockholm, Sweden. During ALL this time he also lived in Monaco where he moved in 1974.
@@mr.blackwell5423 Yes he was the first to live in that house. I used to go in it during construction and took a piss in the dirt in the lower portion of the home before a floor was put in. I saw him there only once driving a Volvo of course. I remember it being white. I believe he use to go to a tennis club near the Town Dock in Port Washington to play. The house was completed in 1979. I was 24 then but before the place was finished, I used to go in but only a couple of times. It was in the early stages of construction when I went in. The more important question is why did my friggin parents sell that land! I had nothing to say about their investments and yet if those two had listened to me in 1974, they could have gobbled up land in the Hamptons for next to nothing. I was 19 when I told them to take a look at Southampton, Westhampton and the whole area. They had only gone to Montauk Point once probably years before I was born. I had such good advice for them but do parents listen to a bright, observant, teenager? Rarely!
Fue cuando me hice fans del tenis, pero cuando borg se retiro ya no me pareció nada interesante, hasta que llego Federer igual de brillante,, los mejores, digan lo que digan,
Johnny Mac is the best EVER! Borg knew it. Mac had the FEEL of GOD. Borg had to practice all the time and Mac played doubles. He enabled Borg to FEEL GOD in himself. They both thought they could find that same thing elsewhere. Only a few can FEEL God every where and in all that they do. And so few can find it in another by being in love--and then soon - they don't know how to light the fire any more. No wonder Borg told Mac he loved him . . . Have they ascended the God ladder further? I would say no; although, Borg has a much better chance to do so now than Mac does. In my not so humble opinion . .. any mystics out there?
The best ever? He won 4 USA in USA New York, his hometown, of course playing in your hometown the tournament of your country doesn't give you an advanatage and of course the judges, which were from the USA by the way, were impartial, he won 3 Wimbledons and that's it, he never won RG, never faced Borg in clay where he will be destroyed by Borg, lost the masters in the Madison Square Garden in 79 and 80 against Borg, the difference was that the Madison Square Garden has better lights, not the bad lights that they used in the US Open, so 7 majors in 15 years as a pro doesn`t make him the GOAT. They are very good friends, Borg is the hero of John, he has said it a lot of times and the reason why he lost interest in Tennis, if Borg continued playing John will felt motivated, when Borg retired John lost his hero and only friend on the Tour.
@@ElBrujovlog Thank you, I am grateful for this posted vid from you. It is more than a half of if. Please, understand me, anyone, I am longing to get this document in full length version. I would happily to pay to HBO for it, but the document is not available at HBO (error 404). And did not find it anywhere else. Any help will be really appreciated. Thank you El Brujo for this part and anyone who would help me to get the rest. Cheers from heart of Europe :)
Aclaro que no esta completo el documental ya que youtube no me lo deja subir completo pero faltan solo 15 minutos, despues de eso lo importante pasa dentro de estos 40 minutos. gracias por compartir y ponerle like
Gracias Pablo por tu aporte hay manera de que me lo puedas enviar completo por we transfer o algo?
no pense que era youtube pero esta asi en todos los archivos, gracias por la buena onda saludos
Thanks for uploading this but can't you upload the rest in another video.
Loved Johnny Mac, cried when he broke into rage fits because this flow of genius, of pure beauty in his shots suddenly got torn to pieces and thrown into a ditch or worse, then there was the crowd booing adding to my despair and whether he eventually won or lost a match, it was so difficult to defend him at school vs the Borg fans....still think to this day noone ever came up with a more beautiful serve or return of serve than his; the way his whole body and not just the racquet redirected the speed of a power serve into far and unreachable corners was just magic.
Title of this doco is Fire & Ice but Johnny deserves his own title : Chaos & Divine Harmony.
My greatest heartbreak tho was seeing him beat by Lendl in the RG Final.
Barely remember much tennis after that match until Federer came along.
La derrota de Supermac en París por Lendl fue un día de luto para el arte en el tenis
I was able to see the full documentary. The remaining part is pretty melancholic esp as it charts the career of McEnroe who could never achieve the heights he had the genius and talent for. As one of the commentators says: the day Borg retired was the day the music died for McEnroe. Wonderful documentary with haunting visuals and music.
The way this is put together and the music particularly is fantastic. Truly talented people who created this documentary 🎉
An excellent video, well done! In retrospect how fortunate I was to have seen these two champions in their prime slugging it out at major tournaments. Others came before them like Laver and Rosewall, Newcombe v Emerson, and afterwards like Sampras v Agassiz, and Nadal v Federer.
That tiebreaker is the greatest moment in the history of tennis.
..in the history of sports..
I cant argue with that. This was the first tennis match that transcended the sport. I remember as a 16 year old in 1980 walking down Kilburn High Road. And people were packed in this Dixons shop. They had the volume up on the T.V and everyone was transfixed by this tie break. It went into legend. And its only grown with the passage of time.
I agree with that. Whats number two? The Jimmy Connors US Open run in 1991? Maybe specifically, the Paul Haarhuis overhead smash point?
@@chocolatetownforever7537 What a glorious moment that was!
@@michaelgarza8271 Goose bumps when I watch that point to this day.
The best match in tennis history!
Kid McEnroe is so cute. He is cute later too but pre-1980, he is absolutely adorable.
As a 5 year old boy, from Chelsea in London.
I was able to take short journeys, from there to Wimbledon.
With my parents.
It was still free for me, and I remember watching Borg in 1973, he was like a rock star.
Long flying hair, with girls screaming his name on the practice courts.
My parents couldn't understand this "new type" 😂
By this time 1980, of playing McEnroe, his stress was starting to tell.
Overhyped typically British critical media.
He won this match and 5 Wimbledon titles "on the trot"
1981 was a turning point and McEnroe took him in the final
In my opinion Borg was the greatest.
He retired at 26 for goodness sake and won 11 Grand Slams
McEnroe peaked in 1984; Tatum O'Neil being his undoing.
Borg vs McEnroe is the best sport saga ever.
It is so unfortunate that Borg retired after the 1981 us open final, but it was a good thing for McEnroe because he was No.1 in 82, 83, 84, and 85. And you have to admit that’s pretty AMAZING!
Don't agree
As a 5 year old boy, from Chelsea in London.
I was able to take short journeys, from there to Wimbledon.
With my parents.
It was still free for me, and I remember watching Borg in 1973, he was like a rock star.
Long flying hair, with girls screaming his name on the practice courts.
My parents couldn't understand this "new type" 😂
By this time 1980, of playing McEnroe, his stress was starting to tell.
Overhyped typically British critical media.
He won this match and 5 Wimbledon titles "on the trot"
1981 was a turning point and McEnroe took him in the final
In my opinion Borg was the greatest.
He retired at 26 for goodness sake and won 11 Grand Slams
McEnroe peaked in 1984; Tatum O'Neil being his undoing.
Sorry have to disagree: Borg's retirement was not a good thing for McEnroe. Borg's leaving the game abruptly, left Mac bereft. It took away his edge and allowed Jimmy Connors (who was always a fighter) to dislodge Mac. I wish Borg had continued. We would have seen some high-quality matches. Borg's comeback bid in the nineties was pathetic.
Great documentry that ended abruptly. I was a Borg man. Loved his demeanor, class, and indestructableness. The superbrat motif of McEnroe was what I expected from a New Yorker. Yes talent, obviously and had the key to Bjorn. Winning at all cost is a NY mantra (and look at the results in NYC now by the way), but I prefer class. Dont care about any other "inferior" view. It isn't what you do. It is how you do. Had we followed that mantra, we would be a much better country today. It is what got us here
Interesting but I understood possibly 75% of it.
Dop is a South African word I think.
So are you referring to your country's demeanour now?
Thanks.
@@steffanhoffmann They are called typos. drop the p and you get do. And , I do know how to spell followed. Dang... I should have proof read. And certainly criticizing Globalism that is in all the Western nations, except Russia and Hungary and suckoing the life out of them. South Africa? I wouldn't live there for all the tea in China. No telling what is going on that is not being reported. Good luck friend.
Borgs demeanor and class was why I didn't like him. I've grown since then. Now, I can only stand on his shoulders. He was and still is - THE example of class and fire.
Arthur Ashe still active as a player in 1977 but at the same time , he worked as journalist
What a wonderful documentary! Thank you so much for sharing but plz upload the full thing.
I was there. What a legendary match!
Really????? O, I do envy you!
do you have the second half of this documentary?
Look at John's shirt. I Love It!
The greatest match in wimbleton history 1980, Bjorn borg vs John McEnroe.
29.30 borg showing his "I was very pissed off look".....haha......Iceborg.
Thank
You
Wait...
He beat Connors in straight sets at 20 yrs old!?
Normally, it's all downhill from there. What an achievement!
To top that again and again was amazing!
悪童マッケンロー＆神様ボルグ、当時はアメリカンスピリッツのコナーズとチェコの戦士レンドルの四天王のいずれかがグランドスラムで優勝していた記憶がある。
i miss the elegant tennis game wood raquets on grass on clay
Ill go to my grave thinking that Borg retired because of McEnroe, and knowing he was no longer as good, when both played well.
That being said, I love the guy. He was special. NOBODY was winning French's and Wimbledons back to back like that. Back then, those two surfaces could not play more differently.
he didn't quit because of McEnroe. He quit because he suffered from a burn out.
@@normadesmond6017 Your opinion.
I agree with you. And sometimes I wonder if Borg's retirement was his way of taking revenge on Mac for his defeats. It certainly left John bereft and disconsolate.
se ven bien los mejores de todos los tiempos
Incredible
Bjorn, you are 1 year and 4 months younger than I. Why did you sell your home on Forest Drive, Sands Point, New York? My father's business was in Port Washington, New York. I was young and wanted my parents to build a home on the other side of the street from your newly constructed home on the cliffs on Forest Drive. I use to park on their land to go down the easement to the beach. Everything changes. You would have been a very interesting person to know. I'm a very interesting person to know too. But everything changes, everything changes...all of life becomes a memory. Everything changes and is in our hands for a second and in the blink of an eye, all of the external changes. We only ever have our inner selves for strength.
Was Bjorn the very first person to live in THAT spectacular house on Forest Drive? I believe the house was completed in 1979 and designed by Norman Jaffe. What year did Bjorn sell the house? 1984? He divorced his lovely wife Mariana in 1984. I'm WITH YOU Albert, regarding THAT LOVELY state of the art/contemporary/futuristic house. WHY did you sell it, Bjorn????? He should've stayed married to Mariana! She truly loved him! She was very pretty w/ a nice personality! And, Bjorn should've kept the lovely Forest Drive home! My guess is Bjorn lived there, roughly, between 1979 and 1984. As he was divorcing Mariana in 1984 he met a 17 year young Swedish girl & decided to move back to Stockholm, Sweden. During ALL this time he also lived in Monaco where he moved in 1974.
@@mr.blackwell5423 Yes he was the first to live in that house. I used to go in it during construction and took a piss in the dirt in the lower portion of the home before a floor was put in. I saw him there only once driving a Volvo of course. I remember it being white. I believe he use to go to a tennis club near the Town Dock in Port Washington to play. The house was completed in 1979. I was 24 then but before the place was finished, I used to go in but only a couple of times. It was in the early stages of construction when I went in.
The more important question is why did my friggin parents sell that land! I had nothing to say about their investments and yet if those two had listened to me in 1974, they could have gobbled up land in the Hamptons for next to nothing. I was 19 when I told them to take a look at Southampton, Westhampton and the whole area. They had only gone to Montauk Point once probably years before I was born. I had such good advice for them but do parents listen to a bright, observant, teenager? Rarely!
love to rally then there is no anger.
El Brujo, eres coruñes?si hombre. Se k sois campeones
soy argentino campeón del mundo
Fue cuando me hice fans del tenis, pero cuando borg se retiro ya no me pareció nada interesante, hasta que llego Federer igual de brillante,, los mejores, digan lo que digan,
7:47 - I was trying to be cool. Lol!
Nice documentary . Does anyone know if Ingrid is a woman ?
The best rivalries are when two players have a contrast of styles, like Borg McEnroe. Duh
FYI: Ice-Bjørn is swedish for polarbear. (Bjørn = bear)
Norwegian, too.
Why does this stop before the end?
It does? That sucks.
Amy Crunch - Yeah there’s a fair chunk missing from the end 😕
Yes...very disappointing.
Borg was ok, a good tennisplayer.
Johnny Mac is the best EVER! Borg knew it. Mac had the FEEL of GOD.
Borg had to practice all the time and Mac played doubles.
He enabled Borg to FEEL GOD in himself. They both thought they could find that same thing elsewhere.
Only a few can FEEL God every where and in all that they do.
And so few can find it in another by being in love--and then soon - they don't know how to light the fire any more.
No wonder Borg told Mac he loved him . . . Have they ascended the God ladder further? I would say no; although,
Borg has a much better chance to do so now than Mac does.
In my not so humble opinion . .. any mystics out there?
No mystics. Watch out for the butterfly nets.
The best ever? He won 4 USA in USA New York, his hometown, of course playing in your hometown the tournament of your country doesn't give you an advanatage and of course the judges, which were from the USA by the way, were impartial, he won 3 Wimbledons and that's it, he never won RG, never faced Borg in clay where he will be destroyed by Borg, lost the masters in the Madison Square Garden in 79 and 80 against Borg, the difference was that the Madison Square Garden has better lights, not the bad lights that they used in the US Open, so 7 majors in 15 years as a pro doesn`t make him the GOAT. They are very good friends, Borg is the hero of John, he has said it a lot of times and the reason why he lost interest in Tennis, if Borg continued playing John will felt motivated, when Borg retired John lost his hero and only friend on the Tour.
I will pay at least 10 US dollars to PayPal to anybody who would provide me with link to full version.
a mi que te lo di parcial no me llevo nada
@@ElBrujovlog Thank you, I am grateful for this posted vid from you. It is more than a half of if. Please, understand me, anyone, I am longing to get this document in full length version. I would happily to pay to HBO for it, but the document is not available at HBO (error 404). And did not find it anywhere else. Any help will be really appreciated. Thank you El Brujo for this part and anyone who would help me to get the rest. Cheers from heart of Europe :)
Well in 1982, the real number one was Connors
when was bjorn Borg number 1. Borg has a tender style.