This really shows why spears dominated warfare for centuries and were seen in real battles way more than swords or axes. You can't stab or slash someone with a sword if you can't get close enough. Spears are easy to make (compared to a sword) and relatively and instinctive easy to use. You can give one to an untrained peasant and tell him to stick the enemy with the pointy end and he can do some damage. If in on top of that you train a battalion of soldiers to stay in formation and use their spears and shields together they become even more effective.
Very true, though there was a video made by Roland Warzecha about training with sharp swords and found an interesting discovery about how a sharp blade changes the dynamic. Suggest you give it a look.
i'd make a rule with the spear for hits to count they have to have a reasonable amount of force behind them. All these little love-taps should not count as successful strikes. Same goes for the rapier, you cannot just touch the other guy with the sword and call it legit. Obviously you could argue that this is simulating unarmored combat, but that would be kind of odd considering duels with spears vs. rapier and shield were not a thing, and with rapier duels you usually only stopped after serious injury or death. A light graze from a rapier will not be sufficient enough to cause serious injury, nor with a spear. If you were to argue about safety, then go and buy some plastic lightsabers and foam swords, HEMA is not for you!
@@mrRPN416 If this is true, then that means in SCA all you need to do is wave your weapon around like a noodle and get multiple little taps to win. Doesn't sound very fun imo. Maybe I will watch some SCA videos and see what it is about.
@@dawnbreakerii204 the armor standards for SCA are basically punch proof material think first blood rather than trying to drive 4 in of steel into your opponent, I am mostly a heavy fighter when I do rapier I have to be very cautious not to hit my opponent too hard
@dawnbreakerii204 also because only the tip of the spear is rubber, and we don't want major bruising or broken ribs, the spear thrusts are much more controlled so that the haft (which is just straight wood usually) doesn't hit people
This really shows why spears dominated warfare for centuries and were seen in real battles way more than swords or axes. You can't stab or slash someone with a sword if you can't get close enough. Spears are easy to make (compared to a sword) and relatively and instinctive easy to use. You can give one to an untrained peasant and tell him to stick the enemy with the pointy end and he can do some damage. If in on top of that you train a battalion of soldiers to stay in formation and use their spears and shields together they become even more effective.
Very true, though there was a video made by Roland Warzecha about training with sharp swords and found an interesting discovery about how a sharp blade changes the dynamic. Suggest you give it a look.
clearly, the rapiers don't know how to use their shields effectively
Smallish shields, pretty sure the idea is to keep those far away from you right so you cover a bigger angle?
While they always could be doing a better job with that, the spear is just a really tough weapon to fight when the user knows what they’re doing
i'd make a rule with the spear for hits to count they have to have a reasonable amount of force behind them. All these little love-taps should not count as successful strikes. Same goes for the rapier, you cannot just touch the other guy with the sword and call it legit.
Obviously you could argue that this is simulating unarmored combat, but that would be kind of odd considering duels with spears vs. rapier and shield were not a thing, and with rapier duels you usually only stopped after serious injury or death. A light graze from a rapier will not be sufficient enough to cause serious injury, nor with a spear.
If you were to argue about safety, then go and buy some plastic lightsabers and foam swords, HEMA is not for you!
They are fighting under SCA rapier rules
@@mrRPN416 If this is true, then that means in SCA all you need to do is wave your weapon around like a noodle and get multiple little taps to win. Doesn't sound very fun imo. Maybe I will watch some SCA videos and see what it is about.
@@dawnbreakerii204 the armor standards for SCA are basically punch proof material think first blood rather than trying to drive 4 in of steel into your opponent, I am mostly a heavy fighter when I do rapier I have to be very cautious not to hit my opponent too hard
@dawnbreakerii204 also because only the tip of the spear is rubber, and we don't want major bruising or broken ribs, the spear thrusts are much more controlled so that the haft (which is just straight wood usually) doesn't hit people
Rapier guys you have to PARRY
It's pretty difficult though to be fair.
Parry? Sure, but they really need to close distance or, better, run away. Guy's got a spear!
Hey cut that out
Let me do it