FULL Bluetooth TNC Upgrade - VGC N76 & BTECH UV-PRO

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • VGC, the manufacture of the VR-N76 and BTECH UV-PRO just dropped a firmware upgrade that opens full Bluetooth TNC control of their radios over ANY of your ham radio applications. That means you can use APRDDroid, APRS.FI and RadioMail on your mobile devices to connect to the radio and NO dongle is needed!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 132

  • @islandmagicco
    @islandmagicco Місяць тому +26

    Indeed, software continues to eat the world. Nice tutorial Josh 🙏💛. Some clarifications:
    3:39 RadioMail will create a Winlink account for you if you don’t already have one-no need to visit the web.
    5:25 Pairing with the VR-N76 can be a bit tricky. When first accessing the radio, iOS will prompt you for pairing. You’ll need to try connect again after that initial attempt.
    5:55 RadioMail will automatically control the radio frequency and restore it afterward. There is no need to manually adjust it.
    7:04 The "Remote is in a disconnected state" error from K6LKD-10 is a common bug with stations using the built-in AX.25 stack. Switching their configuration to use the AGWPE interface instead bypasses this issue.

  • @503Nick
    @503Nick Місяць тому +16

    Nice video and description. I love that VGC went back and opened up the Bluetooth TNC the 50 watt vrn7500 too

    • @don_n5skt
      @don_n5skt Місяць тому +1

      I am waiting for the release of the VRN7600

    • @MrTaylorfenoglio
      @MrTaylorfenoglio Місяць тому +3

      ​@@don_n5sktthey told me it should be after February.

    • @islandmagicco
      @islandmagicco Місяць тому

      @503Nick do you know if vrn7500 works with BLE too? I was not able to get any confirmation from actual users

    • @krisguy
      @krisguy 13 днів тому

      @@MrTaylorfenoglio I would think sometime after Lunar New Year's at the earliest.

  • @brickerhaus
    @brickerhaus Місяць тому +13

    And this is bluetooth. This radio is a homerun.

  • @pxls2prnt
    @pxls2prnt Місяць тому +9

    11:18 The reason you aren't seeing beacons is because you are tracking just one call sign. Right above the row of icons on the bottom of the map is a box with a call sign in it. Swipe that to the left to clear it and it'll then show all the beacons you are receiving.

    • @techtimeteddy
      @techtimeteddy 9 днів тому +1

      Thanks, I was having the same issue!

  • @PrebleStreetRecords
    @PrebleStreetRecords Місяць тому +3

    A sub-$200 HT and mobile rig with a TNC and CAT control is something the big companies (Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood, etc) will never do.
    They’re so busy nickel-and-diming hams for accessories to realize that they’ve been lapped.
    This will definitely be my next radio purchase.

  • @stevearodgers
    @stevearodgers Місяць тому +1

    Love the TWA playing cards! My grandfather Capt Mel Rodgers flew for TWA for 36 years. He flew and instructed in the L-1011 and considered it his favorite plane to fly due to it's INS navigaton and other technology. Thanks for another great video!

  • @unwin42
    @unwin42 Місяць тому +2

    Crazy value! BLE winlink with no dongle for a modest cost. Amazing

  • @flashover52
    @flashover52 Місяць тому +3

    The ultimate would be having the bluetooth/GPS/TNC capability in the VR-6600 Pro or the BTECH UV50X-3 mobile radio versions!! Those are the only tri-band mobiles that I have found that allows you to plug the mic into the control head; allowing for true remote installation without having to run two cables. Large displays and easy menu systems.....one can dream.....

  • @theavidconquistador
    @theavidconquistador Місяць тому +4

    Just as a pro tip, two things, 1. Using kiss tnc automatically changes the frequency to whatever it needs to be at in RadioMail. 2. If you setup digital mode aprs in general setting in the radio, the radio will automatically receive aprs, even in dual channel mode. Just save 144.390 as one of the channels, and set that as the digital mode channel in the digital mode setup found in general settings, and it will automatically receive it even with it not being either of the two channels in the radio.
    Sike, one more thing, in Aprs fi, if no stations show up, best is to check the map filter settings and restart the app a couple times.

  • @RookieLock
    @RookieLock Місяць тому +2

    I wish more radios had this feature !

  • @jbarr
    @jbarr Місяць тому +1

    Wow. I got into Ham Radio in the early 1990s using an MFJ TNC, an Alinco DJ-F1T HT, and a DEC VT220 green-screen terminal. I eventually added a PC to connect to AMPRNet IP Nodes, but that was decades ago. I've dreamt of a handheld HT with full TNC capabilities and hoped that something like the RFinder would do it, but...nope. Though this is not an all-in-one device, it has HUGE potential. Thanks for the info!

  • @LeeHoffman-t5o
    @LeeHoffman-t5o Місяць тому +3

    Love the Case knife

    • @chiadude
      @chiadude Місяць тому

      YES! Which model is that…? The etching too!! From Case direct? I gotta know!!

  • @ravenbarsrepairs5594
    @ravenbarsrepairs5594 Місяць тому +1

    I've been in the market for an analog APRS HT for a while, and the VGC VR-N76 is high on the list of possibilities. This just makes is a better deal.

  • @KM4ACK
    @KM4ACK Місяць тому +2

    It gets better with every firmware update.

  • @justDIY
    @justDIY Місяць тому +1

    Wow that's a great development for a portable / mobile packet system. The less wires the better.

  • @johnblaisdell2179
    @johnblaisdell2179 Місяць тому

    I got the 7.11 version update last week and now finally able to use WoAD. I actually also downloaded the 7.15 ( I think it is) beta as well. My Kenwood d74 is headed for the local Tailgate on Jan 11th. Great video 73 de W4CJB

  • @krisguy
    @krisguy Місяць тому +4

    As long as you disconnect the HT app from the 76 or 7500, then the TNC works. The HT app uses the same BT connection as the TNC, so it's one or another.
    Also, there's some updates to APRSDroid coming that takes advantage of the auto-setting of the frequency on TNC.

    • @tchambers807
      @tchambers807 Місяць тому

      I was a long time figuring this out a few days ago after updating my 7500 lol WoAD would be great if it switched frequency. That takes a good long time currently. Great as a standalone APRS mobile setup though

  • @chriscoel
    @chriscoel Місяць тому +1

    VR-N7500 in latest firmware did give that unit KISS TNC too... Also A+ for the futurama reference cold open.

  • @travnewmatic
    @travnewmatic Місяць тому

    it finally happened, i hope these sell like crazy.

  • @AlphaVictorXray
    @AlphaVictorXray Місяць тому

    I just ordered this one, too. I am even more excited for it to get here

  • @SheepdogPreparedness
    @SheepdogPreparedness Місяць тому +1

    Absolutely love my VR-N76. Only two things I would like to see changed: Get rid of the hard to read red colors on the display and allow one big bank of channels instead of 6 zones.

  • @kaboom4679
    @kaboom4679 Місяць тому

    Definitely going to look at this radio .
    Especially since I finally got my license grant and call sign Christmas Eve .

  • @EverydayAdmin
    @EverydayAdmin Місяць тому +4

    Fun Fact, you do not need to tune your radio when using RadioMail, it will change the radio to the correct frequency automagically!!!

  • @RatchetFWD
    @RatchetFWD Місяць тому +4

    I’m over here yelling at the video “ You didn’t change frequency!”
    Did not think the n76 would change it for you in radio mail , that’s neat. I’ve been changing them manually !

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому

      Yeah. Radio mail takes it into full kiss tnc. The APRS functionality you need to see the freq.

    • @RatchetFWD
      @RatchetFWD Місяць тому

      Interesting to note if aprs is not working for peeps is that, you gotta set your radio ID to your call sign, even tho it has your call sign in the aprs menu.
      Tried using some services with my id as my UA-cam handle an no go. Switched it to my call sign bingo!
      We have sooooo much aprs traffic in LA /OC . Gotta do a couple retries sometimes. Do you know if the device will do retries on it own? Or in the app. I think I does retry in the ht app.

    • @islandmagicco
      @islandmagicco Місяць тому

      The power of RadioMail magic! We don't need to turn knobs like cavemen anymore, let the software do it for us :)

    • @lovedfriend2020
      @lovedfriend2020 Місяць тому

      I hope it will do the same for Andriod using WoAd.

    • @tomzorn8956
      @tomzorn8956 7 днів тому

      Being a nice out doorsey radii it would be nice if it had the ability to receive noaa alerts like the betech version. .... is there a feature request you know of?

  • @paulthelefty
    @paulthelefty Місяць тому +1

    I feel like you glossed over the radiomail/kiss tnc automatically changed to frequency… that’s cool!

    • @islandmagicco
      @islandmagicco Місяць тому +1

      Glad you noticed. It took efforts to make this a reality!

  • @BurtonChristmasLites
    @BurtonChristmasLites Місяць тому +2

    Haven't read the other comments. Just in case it was not mentioned this will also work with their mobile the VGC VR-N7500. New version of that coming out as well. Robert KD4YDC

  • @Sparkfly88
    @Sparkfly88 Місяць тому +2

    The mobile 7500 got full kiss as well. 👍👍

  • @garryhammond3117
    @garryhammond3117 Місяць тому

    Cool HT - 73 - Cheers!

  • @rc2639
    @rc2639 Місяць тому +1

    Josh, you should ask yourself “why now” that the PRC wants to be monitoring our radios.

  • @AD6DMDennis
    @AD6DMDennis Місяць тому

    I have yet to check out one of these VGC's. Giving the D75 a run for its money.

  • @don_n5skt
    @don_n5skt Місяць тому

    Nice. I have to try this. I really have been wanting to try Winlink over the air. Oh, and nice shirt 😉

  • @N5FY
    @N5FY Місяць тому +3

    Ah yes, my UV Pro is working very well full packet with my iPhone. Wish my D75 could do that without the in between dongle.

  • @notshared2543
    @notshared2543 Місяць тому

    Oo this bluetooth/radio tnc is a game changer. I was hoping that the icom 2730 could do this. The ATAC guys should be jumping on this also.

  • @timbeyer817
    @timbeyer817 Місяць тому

    Wonderful update, thank you for the video. I think I'm going to pick up that radio. On another note, a few months ago I saw you do a video with Randy. In that video you showed what was your everyday carry portable ham radio. I am interested to know what radio that was please? I cannot find the video that I am referring to, my apologies. Thanks and have a good day. Hope to hear from you soon.

  • @dangermandave67
    @dangermandave67 Місяць тому +2

    Apparently it now connects to a computer so you can run packet applications like Pinpoint or Winlink Express on a PC (or Mac?) with this radio. Haven't tried it yet. Will be interesting to see if it supports stuff like packet node/BBS.

  • @joshuahoward8225
    @joshuahoward8225 Місяць тому +2

    Hey Josh, it’s Josh WA7BRM. What is the “better” antenna you switched to? Thanks in advance!

  • @Krispin291
    @Krispin291 19 днів тому

    I just ordered one! All the reviews on this radio are on the positive side so…

  • @hazer72
    @hazer72 22 дні тому

    Did you do the bluetooth device set up for SSTV?

  • @radiotory
    @radiotory Місяць тому

    It seems the pretty good device

  • @dancordray8686
    @dancordray8686 Місяць тому +2

    You sold me! Just bought yet another HT from your link below.
    I mean seriously, can one ever have too many HT's???😂

  • @BDD-
    @BDD- Місяць тому

    Snagged one on Black Friday

  • @kchaney56
    @kchaney56 Місяць тому

    I gotta get one of these.

  • @umbertozeffirelli4834
    @umbertozeffirelli4834 18 годин тому

    Buongiorno ma con questa radio si può usare come radio amatoriale può agganciare ponti con scift fatemi sapere

  • @ZAR66
    @ZAR66 Місяць тому

    Dang, I'm really kicking myself now for buying the D75 just a couple of weeks ago. Oh well, hope you enjoyed the email I sent you. 73.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому +1

      The D75 is stil a better radio.

    • @ZAR66
      @ZAR66 Місяць тому

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse I agree, but the VGC now does everything I wanted in an HT.

  • @doubleD_K2DRD
    @doubleD_K2DRD Місяць тому

    Hay …. Great video. K2DRD.

  • @ihikefar
    @ihikefar 12 днів тому

    What’s the best antenna upgrade for this radio?

  • @cidcolead1115
    @cidcolead1115 Місяць тому

    Some Winlink messages fail on Packet but work on VaraFM. I suspect that data in the message or the packet size jams my KPC=3+.
    One sure-fire way to see this is attempt to "Update Table Via Radio" to get the current gateway list over the air.
    Is the radio to phone BLE link the serial data mode like Mobilink? or is it digital audio like a handsfree headset?

    • @islandmagicco
      @islandmagicco Місяць тому

      The link is digital data similar to what is exposed with a Mobilink or the B.B. Link adapter when used with a TH-D75. The radio is exposing its internal TNC via KISS over BLE and as such is responsible for AFSK 1200 modem and other lower level aspects of the AX.25 protocol.

  • @ajhunt239
    @ajhunt239 Місяць тому

    I have both n76 and the vrn7500, still figuring the KISS. My concern with these radios is what happens 'IF' the BT ever goes out? But loving it now.

  • @buzwingding
    @buzwingding Місяць тому

    Does this radio do stand alone APRS? I want a cheap radio to attach to my kids when we go hiking with friends. Then I can follow their progress on my Kenwood.

  • @johnpublic5572
    @johnpublic5572 Місяць тому

    Can you turn the blue tooth off? I don't need all that stuff, i just want a radio that does APRS.
    I was looking at the Icom DStar THD75a but that's way too expensive.

  • @linealigner
    @linealigner Місяць тому

    Have you seen the new baofeng BAOFENG UV-5RM Plus yet?

  • @joedowdy5994
    @joedowdy5994 Місяць тому +1

    Are you able to Bluetooth to a laptop and utilize winlink express?

    • @PrebleStreetRecords
      @PrebleStreetRecords Місяць тому +1

      I haven’t tried it myself but I’ve seen it work for others. Complete with CAT control.

  • @ts440s
    @ts440s Місяць тому

    Please tell me since you talk to all the companies why i can buy a radio ht or mobile download every repeater and simply drive on a trip and have the radio show all the repeaters in the area so I can choose which one I want and done? If there is such a thing please let me know but it can't take a engineer to figure out.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому +1

      The ICOM handhelds do this. They have the best implementation.

  • @ac8xu
    @ac8xu Місяць тому +2

    Have they done this for the N7500 as well?

    • @krisguy
      @krisguy Місяць тому

      @@ac8xu yes
      It's the same procedure update the firmware

    • @ac8xu
      @ac8xu Місяць тому

      @@krisguy Ha HA thanks, now I just gotta purchase one. Have been going back and forth which of the two I want to get.

    • @tchambers807
      @tchambers807 Місяць тому

      ​@@ac8xuI bought the 7500 just for APRS mobile. It's a ton of fun. I'm going to set it up in a backpack for hiking in the summer. It's super small

  • @Br1ckInTh3W4LL
    @Br1ckInTh3W4LL Місяць тому +2

    Hopefully now it will work with m17-kiss-tnc android app.

  • @tjk1968slice
    @tjk1968slice Місяць тому

    Help me understand the purpose. I purchased the Btech UV-PRO. It all seems like a redundant novelty. You can just use a phone or computer foe email. Why throw a radio in the mix. Maybe we could turn them into 1980's type pagers. What good is all this technology?

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому +3

      It’s off grid communications. No internet is being used when sending data through the tnc to radio point to point.

  • @MR-DCB
    @MR-DCB Місяць тому

    I appear to be stuck on 7.14-32 firmware. Three times I've downloaded 7.15 and it says it installs but never appears to update. i have even tried holding the green button and power on but no change. Any ideas?

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому

      Factory reset and pair radios to mobile device again. If not, try using Android.

  • @cmritchie04
    @cmritchie04 Місяць тому

    is there a mobile radio version? so that way I can hard-wire connect it to my radio inside my jeep on a full-time basis? maybe install it my mini trunk and connect it usb

  • @UndyingShadow83
    @UndyingShadow83 Місяць тому +1

    100 dollars? I'm not seeing it for sale for anything less than $150. Have the prices just gone up?

    • @StevePinkham
      @StevePinkham Місяць тому +1

      $150 sounds about right. I guess compared to $700 for a Kenwood, that is "just a bit" over $100, but $150-180 is about the range I would expect to pay.

    • @WorldMoneyWins
      @WorldMoneyWins Місяць тому

      They are $188 I believe.

    • @dennishess2046
      @dennishess2046 Місяць тому +1

      $165 on Amazon for the BTECH UV-PRO which is the same radio

  • @Hwy929
    @Hwy929 Місяць тому

    Is there a way to program it without the HT app on ios/android? It would be nice to have access to a full keyboard/mouse and use my laptop bluetooth for setup.
    I got spoiled by running chirp on my laptop and copy/paste all the channel and repeater csv info to setup all my other ht radios.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому

      You can program manually. Have not tried a keyboard.

    • @radioj5249
      @radioj5249 Місяць тому +2

      From the app, you can export one of the 6 groups of channels to a CSV file. Edit the file in a text editor or spreadsheet. From the app, import the updated file, save it back to the radio, etc. So you still need the app, but can do the file editing with a full keyboard/mouse. Hope this makes sense.

    • @Hwy929
      @Hwy929 Місяць тому

      @@radioj5249 Yep, makes perfect sense. It's nice being able to copy and paste a bunch of info from repeaterbook without having to do things field by field.

  • @zach240
    @zach240 Місяць тому

    I’m trying to figure out what my first decent non-cheap radio should be. I’m just curious how this radio’s receiver performs.

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому +1

      This is the one I am recommending.

    • @zach240
      @zach240 Місяць тому

      @@HamRadioCrashCourse Are there any major differences between the VGC and the BTech Models?(Hardware or Software)

  • @dennisschultz1175
    @dennisschultz1175 Місяць тому +1

    The Mobilinkd killer...

  • @BobBob-il2ku
    @BobBob-il2ku Місяць тому

    Josh how is APRS applicable to emcomm/Tacomm doesn’t it heavily rely upon igates /the internet?

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому

      It can push the data to the internet, but it’s all still line of sight from radio to radio. So all local radios that can hear each other or be digitpeated will be heard without the internet.

    • @NealBailey
      @NealBailey Місяць тому

      I will add this as well. Other radios that hear you can also retransmit your data even further. It's all in how you set it up. 73 N9NDB

  • @k6usy
    @k6usy Місяць тому +1

    Map is only showing you because you have a filter, why your callsign is in that gray box in the lower right hand. Click on your station on the map that you are filtered to then tap “Stop Tacking”.

    • @ve7tzb
      @ve7tzb Місяць тому

      Came here to say this as well!

  • @M_White_VA
    @M_White_VA Місяць тому

    I see it has arrow buttons, can you play snake on it?

  • @HAL_9000_YT
    @HAL_9000_YT Місяць тому

    Hi , is there a external mic for this walkie?

  • @jonw695
    @jonw695 Місяць тому

    I actually like aprs using the ht app more than aprsdroid. Through the app, i set channel 15 as my aprs channel on all my channel groups. Then set in the aprs settings ch15 as the aprs channel. Now, mo matter the group im in, it will always rx and tx aprs, even if ch15 isnt on the main screen as primary or secondary. Its like having a 3rd channel monitored, amd will auto change the vfo for tx, then change it back. The map function is also pretty good. Basically when i get in my car, i turn on the radio, open HT app and connect to the n76, then start driving. It also allows you to become a digipeater so i enable it in case someone is too far to reach the tower, but i can hear it, it will use the phone's internet to deliver to the aprs servers.
    Adding kiss tnc is cool, but I dont email so its not really worth it to me.

  • @Porty1119
    @Porty1119 Місяць тому

    Since my radios are primarily work tools that I've added some ham frequencies to, I'm not really a fan of Chinese radios. That said, this one is tempting.

  • @M0KVI
    @M0KVI Місяць тому

    I'm a huge fan BUT the receiver does struggle vs better rigs. Using mine for VHF packet on my BBS and winlink packet email but side by side with my 818 it just not as sensitive. Still tempted by the incoming n7600

  • @KeepEvery1Guessing
    @KeepEvery1Guessing Місяць тому

    It would bee nice to have simultaneous CAT so that APPs could learn to tune the radio to the correct frequency. (Or maybe extend KISS to do it?)

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому

      It’s can do that. Watch the part of the video with RadioMail.

  • @dennisschultz1175
    @dennisschultz1175 Місяць тому

    Does the firmware work for VR-N7500?

  • @slappomatthew
    @slappomatthew Місяць тому

    Can you do m7 on this?

  • @kelvinleigh
    @kelvinleigh Місяць тому +1

    Is this easier to learn than the Baofeng?

    • @WorldMoneyWins
      @WorldMoneyWins Місяць тому

      I think so just because you can use the app.

  • @JoshuaReeves-qm2im
    @JoshuaReeves-qm2im Місяць тому

    What antenna are you using?

  • @mikearmstrong9899
    @mikearmstrong9899 Місяць тому

    Pimping monogrammed Case. Bling!

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому

      It was a gift I very much appreciate. There is a ham radio club that has now given me two of these Case knives.

    • @mikearmstrong9899
      @mikearmstrong9899 Місяць тому

      To be cherished!

  • @ExtremeSquared
    @ExtremeSquared Місяць тому +1

    This thing has a steep bulk discount at over 51 radios. HRCC chat group buy?

  • @KI5DJL
    @KI5DJL Місяць тому

    I own the vr-n7500 I wish it had kiss tnc

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому

      I believe that radio was also updated. Do a firmware upgrade.

  • @afk1448
    @afk1448 Місяць тому

    And it’s IP rated

  • @alexisevanger7458
    @alexisevanger7458 Місяць тому

    Turn off your APRS tracked call sign in the bottom right of the map ;)

  • @ch716
    @ch716 Місяць тому

    The D75 lacking BLE is embarrassing.

  • @angelscomputers
    @angelscomputers Місяць тому

    The radio is great I just have one grief about it. How in the world I load 50+ repeaters on this thing? The app is useless for that and I can't find any other way because not even CHIRP support it! Yeah, its amazing program it from a tablet or phone but a radio that I can't load a CSV file its quite useless. Hahaha, even the crappy Baofeng can do it lol

  • @digitalshooter2905
    @digitalshooter2905 Місяць тому

    Little over $100, where? LOL

  • @cdburgess75
    @cdburgess75 Місяць тому

    BT is so buggy

    • @HamRadioCrashCourse
      @HamRadioCrashCourse  Місяць тому

      It’s been stable after I disconnect any app before switching to another.