We recorded 100's of VHS tapes to build a huge library, not realizing that tapes do not last forever. Wow. Interesting presentation. It's a shame about the deterioration.
The enchantment of the phenomenon of tapes in tape recorders is now hard to imagine. As my main audio system, I have a 2x16 watt triode tube amplifier. For me, vintage audio and video live on forever.
Just had a VHS tape practically fall apart and clog the heads. It was one I had luckily transferred previously, but my nieces love watching our old VHS tapes, it's funny.
Sony HG hi8 MP tapes are the worst. H3ad clog every 5 minutes and people bitch and complain that 15 to transfer an 8mm tape to digital is too much. Took me 5 hours of sitting around transferring a bad tape to digital last week and the customer tried to grind me down. I called and told them it was bad and there would be extra charges to get that one tape transferred. They bitched and complained about the final bill, so I deleted all the rest of the files after the first file (where the head clogged for the first time) and then made sure i overwrite the deleted files so they can't recover and handed then the memory stick. (I still had the files backed up) they called and said tbe tape only had 15 minutes on it. I said yup you refused to pay for the recovery so you got the point to where the tape failed. Everything beyond that it now 5.00 for each segment, you cheap bastard. They paid up and I copied the rest of the files. Can't work for 5 hours for a lousy 15 bucks. Burger flipper make more than that. 15 bucks might be ok if I can press play and walk away for 2 hours but when I have to sit and watch it because the tape is bad its gonna cost 50 bucks minimum.
I have 9 tapes in right now for transfer, and one tape clogged the heads 15 times over the course of 2 hours. One tape clogged one head on the camera during record so no recovery is possible on that one. I guess I will see if t here is anything on the remaining 2, which are moldy. So I have to re-wind the tape first and see if there is anything to recover. I really hate tape. I was so happy when technology obsoleted it and I laugh at those still using it. I know I am going to hear it from those that scream tape forever, but thats OK, it is their stuff that is going to be lost.
This is great - thanks for posting! I bought one of these when they first came out, and still have it. Digitized all my Beta tapes some time ago though.
I have 2, just use for digitizing beta tapes these days. I did a demo editing with 2 of them a number of years ago. Still have the fancy blue control T cable to connect the 2 machines.
Sony paid very well on warranty claims...I was at a commission shop (40%) and for a STOCK or CUSTOMER "VCR" repair they paid $80USD. Audio and CDP's were $48.
Not here they didn't. Flat rate 45 for audio, 65 for VCR, 85 for TV, 95 for camcorder. When I worked for Sony it was 9.36 per hour for video tech and 6.55 for audio tech per hour.
@@12voltvids I was 1996-2008 at Best Buy. They switched to an hourly rate (based upon performance) in 2000 and started hiring ANYONE who had previously used an electrical outlet. Hard to believe production went down; SHOCKER. That whole 41 million dollar embezzlement scheme killed all their service centers
Not just tapes lasting forever ultimately the drum surfaces eventually wear out. even if you try and reshine the drum surface thats a microspace of air between the tape surface gone and if not carefully done or monitor your usage of the machine it will turn your video drum into a tape cheese grater.
Loved ❤ watching this. More demo tapes please. What capture card did you use for this capture? Did you use a TBC? Thr oxide is coming off because this tape was stored in a warm environment I think?
I used my professional capture device, and no, I didn't use a TBC, no need for it because its all done by the unit itself. No computer is used, it is a stand alone device. TBC's are over rated. Only cheap junk capture cards can benefit because their processors run too slow. The device I have can capture NTSC and PAL from composite, and component video as well as can capture HDMI from SD right to 4K, however it only will capture in 1080 60p. There is a step up model that will capture 4k, but unfortunately all the new ones also will reject video with any form of copy protection. The one I have was a prototype that ignores copy protection and thus can't be sold in it's current form, and I can't sell the one I have (not that I would because I use it all the time to digitize video.) Poor many TBC by the way is a DVD recorder. Just run the video through a DVD recorder and what comes out is corrected. The tape was stored in a climate controlled room, so no heat or humidity did not affect it, all these old tapes are falling apart. 25 years ago they were starting to fail. The binder is failing
@@12voltvids Professional capture device you mean you have AJA kona? The unit has a line TBC you need a full frame TBC and line TBC to remove jumps and sound dropouts. Lots of people talk about TBC and how great they are lots of online forums, standalone device may not give you a highbitrate, did you capture avi lossless or lossy? This can also effect the over all quality. Using composite is a big no no everybody agrees it causes what technical people call 'dot crawl' everybody recommendeds using s video for capture because it carries luma Y and Chroma C separately giving the capture more color-brightness and contrast details. Some people use retrotink4k for VHS capture otherwise use cloner alliance box, HDMI capture for VHS is a big no no this is something that non technical people also agree on. Lots of people use Panasonic's DVD recorder as a TBC, so are for this method others are against it because it causes issues with the picture as it's going into the dvd recorder and being processed corrected then being fed to the capture and then PC -software. I think this tape has been played back lots od times or it's been in a VCR that had a bad pitch roller or dirty head which is damaged the film of the VHS, BASF is the most common brand of tape to shed oxide.
@@12voltvids Professional capture device you mean you have AJA kona? The unit has a line TBC you need a full frame TBC and line TBC to remove jumps and sound dropouts. Lots of people talk about TBC and how great they are lots of online forums, standalone device may not give you a highbitrate, did you capture avi lossless or lossy? This can also effect the over all quality. Using composite is a big no no everybody agrees it causes what technical people call 'dot crawl' everybody recommendeds using s video for capture because it carries luma Y and Chroma C separately giving the capture more color-brightness and contrast details. Some people use retrotink4k for VHS capture otherwise use cloner alliance box, HDMI capture for VHS is a big no no this is something that non technical people also agree on. Lots of people use Panasonic's DVD recorder as a TBC, so are for this method others are against it because it causes issues with the picture as it's going into the dvd recorder and being processed corrected then being fed to the capture and then PC -software.
@@12voltvids I think this tape has been played back lots od times or it's been in a VCR that had a bad pitch roller or dirty head which is damaged the film of the VHS, BASF is the most common brand of tape to shed oxide.
No format lasts forever, tape based ones are very sensitve to storage conditions, Disc based ones that rely on a refective coating will in time self destruct due to attack from the chemicals in the protective coating. Hard drives including SSD ones are also prone to failure, how long a memory stick will last who knows, it won't be forever.
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What's really amazing is, that cat is still with us today.
WOW, With the way that Tape fell apart, I'd be blowing the inside of the Deck out....
Thanks Dave...
We recorded 100's of VHS tapes to build a huge library, not realizing that tapes do not last forever. Wow. Interesting presentation. It's a shame about the deterioration.
No tape lasts forever.
The enchantment of the phenomenon of tapes in tape recorders is now hard to imagine. As my main audio system, I have a 2x16 watt triode tube amplifier. For me, vintage audio and video live on forever.
They won't much longer. Tapes fall apart
Awesome video!!!
I have got one of those sony Pro x cassettes its in my sanyo betacord machine great demo mate
Just had a VHS tape practically fall apart and clog the heads. It was one I had luckily transferred previously, but my nieces love watching our old VHS tapes, it's funny.
Sony HG hi8 MP tapes are the worst. H3ad clog every 5 minutes and people bitch and complain that 15 to transfer an 8mm tape to digital is too much. Took me 5 hours of sitting around transferring a bad tape to digital last week and the customer tried to grind me down. I called and told them it was bad and there would be extra charges to get that one tape transferred. They bitched and complained about the final bill, so I deleted all the rest of the files after the first file (where the head clogged for the first time) and then made sure i overwrite the deleted files so they can't recover and handed then the memory stick. (I still had the files backed up) they called and said tbe tape only had 15 minutes on it. I said yup you refused to pay for the recovery so you got the point to where the tape failed. Everything beyond that it now 5.00 for each segment, you cheap bastard. They paid up and I copied the rest of the files. Can't work for 5 hours for a lousy 15 bucks. Burger flipper make more than that. 15 bucks might be ok if I can press play and walk away for 2 hours but when I have to sit and watch it because the tape is bad its gonna cost 50 bucks minimum.
I remember this!!! My shop was RCA, Zenith, Sony, Magnavox and Motorola/Quasar.
man, that tape is in rough shape. Here soon this stuff nobody transferred is just going to be totally lost
I have 9 tapes in right now for transfer, and one tape clogged the heads 15 times over the course of 2 hours. One tape clogged one head on the camera during record so no recovery is possible on that one. I guess I will see if t here is anything on the remaining 2, which are moldy. So I have to re-wind the tape first and see if there is anything to recover. I really hate tape. I was so happy when technology obsoleted it and I laugh at those still using it. I know I am going to hear it from those that scream tape forever, but thats OK, it is their stuff that is going to be lost.
This is great - thanks for posting! I bought one of these when they first came out, and still have it. Digitized all my Beta tapes some time ago though.
I have 2, just use for digitizing beta tapes these days. I did a demo editing with 2 of them a number of years ago. Still have the fancy blue control T cable to connect the 2 machines.
Cool. A little touch of retro.
Never used a Beta but personally, Beta tapes seem to last longer with good AV quality compared to standard VHS tapes
Most do, but some formulations of tape fail.
Sony paid very well on warranty claims...I was at a commission shop (40%) and for a STOCK or CUSTOMER "VCR" repair they paid $80USD. Audio and CDP's were $48.
Not here they didn't. Flat rate 45 for audio, 65 for VCR, 85 for TV, 95 for camcorder. When I worked for Sony it was 9.36 per hour for video tech and 6.55 for audio tech per hour.
@@12voltvids I was 1996-2008 at Best Buy. They switched to an hourly rate (based upon performance) in 2000 and started hiring ANYONE who had previously used an electrical outlet. Hard to believe production went down; SHOCKER. That whole 41 million dollar embezzlement scheme killed all their service centers
Not just tapes lasting forever ultimately the drum surfaces eventually wear out. even if you try and reshine the drum surface thats a microspace of air between the tape surface gone and if not carefully done or monitor your usage of the machine it will turn your video drum into a tape cheese grater.
Comet kitchen cleaner will remove the shine. Done it many times. Learned that when I worked for Sony.
Loved ❤ watching this.
More demo tapes please.
What capture card did you use for this capture? Did you use a TBC? Thr oxide is coming off because this tape was stored in a warm environment I think?
I used my professional capture device, and no, I didn't use a TBC, no need for it because its all done by the unit itself. No computer is used, it is a stand alone device. TBC's are over rated. Only cheap junk capture cards can benefit because their processors run too slow. The device I have can capture NTSC and PAL from composite, and component video as well as can capture HDMI from SD right to 4K, however it only will capture in 1080 60p. There is a step up model that will capture 4k, but unfortunately all the new ones also will reject video with any form of copy protection. The one I have was a prototype that ignores copy protection and thus can't be sold in it's current form, and I can't sell the one I have (not that I would because I use it all the time to digitize video.)
Poor many TBC by the way is a DVD recorder. Just run the video through a DVD recorder and what comes out is corrected.
The tape was stored in a climate controlled room, so no heat or humidity did not affect it, all these old tapes are falling apart. 25 years ago they were starting to fail. The binder is failing
I have one that compares super VHS to standard VHS. Should drag that one out.
@@12voltvids Professional capture device you mean you have AJA kona? The unit has a line TBC you need a full frame TBC and line TBC to remove jumps and sound dropouts.
Lots of people talk about TBC and how great they are lots of online forums, standalone device may not give you a highbitrate, did you capture avi lossless or lossy? This can also effect the over all quality.
Using composite is a big no no everybody agrees it causes what technical people call 'dot crawl' everybody recommendeds using s video for capture because it carries luma Y and Chroma C separately giving the capture more color-brightness and contrast details.
Some people use retrotink4k for VHS capture otherwise use cloner alliance box, HDMI capture for VHS is a big no no this is something that non technical people also agree on.
Lots of people use Panasonic's DVD recorder as a TBC, so are for this method others are against it because it causes issues with the picture as it's going into the dvd recorder and being processed corrected then being fed to the capture and then PC -software.
I think this tape has been played back lots od times or it's been in a VCR that had a bad pitch roller or dirty head which is damaged the film of the VHS, BASF is the most common brand of tape to shed oxide.
@@12voltvids
Professional capture device you mean you have AJA kona? The unit has a line TBC you need a full frame TBC and line TBC to remove jumps and sound dropouts.
Lots of people talk about TBC and how great they are lots of online forums, standalone device may not give you a highbitrate, did you capture avi lossless or lossy? This can also effect the over all quality.
Using composite is a big no no everybody agrees it causes what technical people call 'dot crawl' everybody recommendeds using s video for capture because it carries luma Y and Chroma C separately giving the capture more color-brightness and contrast details.
Some people use retrotink4k for VHS capture otherwise use cloner alliance box, HDMI capture for VHS is a big no no this is something that non technical people also agree on.
Lots of people use Panasonic's DVD recorder as a TBC, so are for this method others are against it because it causes issues with the picture as it's going into the dvd recorder and being processed corrected then being fed to the capture and then PC -software.
@@12voltvids
I think this tape has been played back lots od times or it's been in a VCR that had a bad pitch roller or dirty head which is damaged the film of the VHS, BASF is the most common brand of tape to shed oxide.
Character generator wow not even iPhone has that yet
No format lasts forever, tape based ones are very sensitve to storage conditions,
Disc based ones that rely on a refective coating will in time self destruct due to
attack from the chemicals in the protective coating.
Hard drives including SSD ones are also prone to failure, how long a memory stick will last
who knows, it won't be forever.
4:26 - "SuperBeta also improves chroma" - really?
i suppose a bake wouldn't help the tape?
Its not sticky shed its binder failure.
@@12voltvids thought that
Big Hair days…. 😂
More like low budget production LOL.