Great video...I like every iteration of the Titan, I really do. I have a question and this is as likely a place for the answer as any forum. So, at the end of Nemesis when Riker is headed off to his new command, The U.S.S. Titan, I went online to see if there was such a ship created as they had the audacity not to show it in the movie. I found some info at the time and it was supposedly a deep space exploration ship and it was huge...I mean huge. Bigger that the E and the biggest starship created at that time. It was so big it was considered a colony ship and the size comparison chart showed it was indeed a very beefy looking constitution style ship (it might have had a Nebula style attachment over the saucer). I cannot for the life of me find this size comparison chart and while I don't think I imagined it I know the internet is rife with fan concepts. Maybe, somewhere, I downloaded that size chart and I will find it someday but until then does anyone else remember this particular version of the Titan?
I think you were coded by the Internet. The Titan the Riker gets is not that big. It's a medium sized ship and it is in Stsr Trek Lower Decks abd in the beginning of this video too. That is it. It's a beautiful ship. Check out Memory Alpha or just do a Google search for the Uss Titan and it will come up for you.
I think the Titan A should've kept her name and continued her legacy. Renaming it the Enterprise did both ships a disservice in my opinion, as the Enterprise would no longer be the latest flagship (like all previous iterations since the beginning) and the Titan would lose its identity and legacy. The only way I could kind of see this work out is that the name was given as a temporary measure or honorary title after the fleet suffered massive damage during the attempted Borg takeover. Maybe, they gave it that name until they could recover and build a more appropriate ship to carry the name Enterprise.
How is the Titan A new type of ship? If you look really closely it's a updated Shangri-la class the enterprise G and the Titan NCC 1777 look virtually identical but with new looks
heh, and it's her pon-farring with Pike, and they show it like a Benny Hill vaudevillian act, except Pike never. gets. away. Maybe Spock could jump in and save the day, with echoes of the future.
So an upgraded Luna looks like this? How do you go from futuristic looking Luna class Titan to clunky looking Titan/ Enterprise-G and insist its an upgrade and not a completely new line of ship? and have the balls to rename an existing clunker ship to Enterprise?? I am so lost with all this. 🤦♂️
honestly, i can't stand that they chose to replace one legacy name with another. the Enterprise is supposed to be the pinnacle of Starfleet ship design when made, going from an odyssey class to a con III is such a downgrade while also disrespecting another legacy name.
It's it though? The moment they called it neo constitution it screamed call me Enterprise. Plus if you want bring starfleet back to exploration what better way than a Connie?
@@Monroehutch5 the first ship that comes to mind when I hear Enterprise is the E, followed by the D. While I’ll admit the importance of the Constitution, I’ve never been the biggest fan.
@@swordbrotherulbrecht3286 ah I see, I grew up in the eighties on old reruns of tos so Connie means explore to me. There was no way a new model Connie wasn't going to end up being a Enterprise given it's history of being the longest running ship to carry the name.
I agree, the enterprise-f was so much more ostentatious and just screamed, "Look at me with my fancy double neck" a flagship should be the largest most luxurious eye candy as they're usually not intended to be serving in a military role but in a diplomatic one. What other ship would be good enough to transport 200 federation ambassadors to a galactic peace conference? understand why the writers chose to replace it with the enterprise-g though. It was probably meant as a nod to the original hero ship of the franchise... good old 1701!
Lazy writing the Titan like the Enterprise was a Legacy ship and was completely disrespectful to its lineage the Enterprise G should of been a new ship ,goung from the Enterprise F to the Enterprise G was very underwhelming 😮
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form and format provided on this subject matter on the U.S.S. Titan and the various starship's of the same name and so forth indeed!.
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I wish we had gotten the Eclipse class for the Enterprise-G and not a rechristened Titan as the Enterprise-G. It seemed like a short sell out to have the Titan re-christened to the Enterprise.
Love the Luna class! Gorgeous ship design. Ya, it bugs me too renaming the Titan-A, the E-G. Just a bad decision with the Writers/network. I still would like to see story with Savik sitting in the big chair. Speaking of... maybe Captain Jack might be due for a promotion...? Vice Admiral?... Commador? 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦🕊️
Honestly if they had named it the U.S.S. Picard at the end of Picard I would not be as pissed. I have played Star Trek Online since it came out and the Enterprise-F has been getting shitcanned canon-wise.
In TOS Kirk‘s Enterprise is NOT the Federation‘s flagship. Each and every time Kirk runs into another Starfleet captain he is treated and acts as if he‘s the junior officer. Had Enterprise been „the flagship“ - which is defined as „the ship from which a fleet is being commanded - Kirk would have had seniority in these encounters. The only clear cut example of Enterprise being „the flagship“ is in First Contact. After Picard disobeyed the order to stay away from the battle against the Borg and assumes command of the battle, the captains of the other ships simply accept that as though Picard outranked them all. I don’t understand why some fans insist That the Federation flagship „has to be an Enterprise“. What‘s so bad about Excelsior under Sulu being „the flag ship“? Even with Kirk commanding Enterprise-A. After all Kirk got demoted over the Genesis incident - which was a political decision made at least in part to appease the other powers. Putting a demoted Kirk in charge of „the flag ship“ would have turned that gesture of appeasment into an affront. For that reason I assume Excelsior took the role of „federation flagship“ as soon as she was mission ready. Excelsior also would have been the most advanced ship the Federation had at the time.
The enterprise ncc-1701 & ncc-1701a were never officially flagships. At the end of 1701s life, the excelsior was set to be flagship being the newest and most advanced ship in the fleet. The a was basically done to be nice to kirk. The first enterprise to be called the federation flagship was ncc-1701d
There is something obscene about how Trek continues to use the corporate definition of "flagship" rather than the Naval definition, which is much more appropriate since they are ships not merchandise.
@@conanthelibrarian287 Yep. If the Fleet Admiral decided to hop on a janky old Oberth-class for dinner, that ship would be the flagship for the duration of his visit.
😊 As a design engineer, This is all about writers not giving a damn about the technology but rather the plot and story. (A rookie mistake) The design of the “Titan” would be the equivalent of making a modern day destroyer look like a sailing ship from 150 years ago outfitted with modern tech. People don’t realize that the constitution class design was THAT old. And ship designs change not for “looks” but because of function. Obviously as time past ships started to smooth out and become larger for better structural stability and maneuverability on top of designing the ship around new technology to better complement the technological abilities of the ship. Form follows function. The form or design of Kirks old ship looked the way it did because it was designed around or followed the functions of the technology of the time. To go back to a 100+ year constitution class design just for the “feels” is the definition of stupidity. I guess in the future it’s no longer Form follows function but rather design the ship first and then hope you can cram new tech in it and pray that it works ok … ish. 😂
It is dumb but it could be looked at as technology is so advanced that they can make a ship look however they want with minimal downsides. Unattractive as it may be.
Calling the Titan A the Enterprise G was the dumbest thing ever. They ruined both names in one fowl swoop, lol. It was just the cherry on the cake for an entire series of shite writing.
It's been said plenty, but that ship should not have been renamed Enterprise. It's not an Enterprise level ship. Nor does it make sense to give the captain's chair to an officer that jumped from no rank to captain in one year.
The Enterprise, NCC-1701 was an Academy training ship in the mid-2280’s, so would not have been the Federation flagship at that point. It’s debatable whether the Enterprise-A would have been the flagship as well. Given the Titan’s NCC-1777 registry number, I’d say she was a Constitution-class sister ship of the original Enterprise. When some of the Constitution-class ships were refit like the Enterprise and Yorktown (later Enterprise-A), the Titan would have been refit into the new fast scout Shangri-La Class, to be followed up by many new-build ships in the NCC-25xx range.
Wrong way of thinking. Gene Roddenberry said once that numbers on ship has no meaning. He just chose one that looked best and was easy to remember. So going over the logic what NCC or number stands for is like monkey trying to overcomplicate how to eat banana.
@@sw-gs , so how would Starfleet pick their numbers? Mid-2250s Constitutions seem to be mostly 16xx, 17xx. The TOS Movie-era seem to be 2000-2500. Early TNG seem to be in the 65000-72000 range. Their”s way more evidence that the numbers are pulled sequentially, singularly or in batches, than not.
@@sw-gs that not how it works enymore in TNG they made it to were the registry numbers were more acurate to the real navy ships sense it made more sense
@@sw-gs , sorry to say, Gene Roddenberry’s flippant answer is probably more “fan fiction” than you’d think. And there,s more on-screen evidence supporting sequential registries than not. 2245 = 1700 2260s = 1800-1900 2270s = 2000 (remember, Excelsior was a long time in development) 2280s = 2500-4000 (early Excelsior multi mission explorers & Constellations we’re in this range) 2290s = 4000-8000 2300s = 8000-10000 (Constellation Class USS Victory was here) 2100s = 10000 - 20000 (USS Ambassador is here) 2200s = 20000 - 30000 (Ambassador Class multi mission explorers were in the NCC-26000 range) 2330s = 30000 - 45000 (many later, second-wave Excelsiors are here) 2340s = 45000 - 60000 (many New Orleans and Excelsiors are here. The Prometheus is here; very slow development) 2350s = 60000 - 70000 (many of the Nebulas, Akiras, New Orleans are here) 2360s = 70000 - 73000 (Galaxy Class, Nebulas, etc) 2370s = 74000 - 80000 (Defiants, Intrepids, Sovereigns, etc) 2380s = 80000 >. (USS Titan)
i think the renaming to enterprise-G is fitting. Titan was the only modern ship in the fleet to stand against the destruction of the federation. All the other ships in the fleet were involved in the conspiracy. It may not be the latest and greatest design but it proved itself as something special and deserving of star fleets most prestigious name.
Idk why, but the Shang-Ri La class fits more in her era rather than Neo-Constitution in her era. Plus that paint looks better than the new cold paint job of the Titan A or Enterprise G.
It made absolutely no sense to turn an old ship in to a new Enterprise. The Enterprise has always been the newest most technologically advanced ship at the time. But to take a salvaged Luna-class and reconstruct it into an entirely new ship and then slapping on the Enterprise name seems like an insult to the name Enterprise. It's like the producers created the shiny new ship and didn't want it to be a background ship.
The USS Titan should have been renamed Picard. The theme of Family was so big in Picard. For Paramount not to notice that fact at the end of the series is kind of naïve on their part. I think they were just looking for fan service and grabbed the closest ship that was available.
I like that the Titan became the EntG, I don't see it as erasing the Titan legacy but adding to it. Saavik and Riker both served on an Enterprise and Captained a Titan, add in that the Titan A was also constructed using parts and design elements from both previous Titans, the Titan and Enterprise legacies are both further enriched.
I love the Luna Class design. Simply badass looking!
I would like to know more about Saavik and her tenure as Captain of the Titan. Even just a few references in other shows.
I love the design I just wish they’d explained the titan to enterprise name change better, just seemed a bit last minute
I'd love to see a series set in this era 💯
Great video...I like every iteration of the Titan, I really do. I have a question and this is as likely a place for the answer as any forum. So, at the end of Nemesis when Riker is headed off to his new command, The U.S.S. Titan, I went online to see if there was such a ship created as they had the audacity not to show it in the movie. I found some info at the time and it was supposedly a deep space exploration ship and it was huge...I mean huge. Bigger that the E and the biggest starship created at that time. It was so big it was considered a colony ship and the size comparison chart showed it was indeed a very beefy looking constitution style ship (it might have had a Nebula style attachment over the saucer). I cannot for the life of me find this size comparison chart and while I don't think I imagined it I know the internet is rife with fan concepts. Maybe, somewhere, I downloaded that size chart and I will find it someday but until then does anyone else remember this particular version of the Titan?
I think you were coded by the Internet. The Titan the Riker gets is not that big. It's a medium sized ship and it is in Stsr Trek Lower Decks abd in the beginning of this video too. That is it. It's a beautiful ship.
Check out Memory Alpha or just do a Google search for the Uss Titan and it will come up for you.
The USS Titan B should be under the command of Boimler and Mariner.
I would love a breakdown of the Olympic class! It’s such a cool looking ship that doesn’t get much attention.
I think the Titan A should've kept her name and continued her legacy. Renaming it the Enterprise did both ships a disservice in my opinion, as the Enterprise would no longer be the latest flagship (like all previous iterations since the beginning) and the Titan would lose its identity and legacy. The only way I could kind of see this work out is that the name was given as a temporary measure or honorary title after the fleet suffered massive damage during the attempted Borg takeover. Maybe, they gave it that name until they could recover and build a more appropriate ship to carry the name Enterprise.
The ship quacks like a Connie, looks like a Connie, so it must be a Titan!
this version of the Titan is just so perfect looking!!!!!
With the lifespan of Vulcans and Romulans. I’m gonna make the assumption that Savik is still around.
How is the Titan A new type of ship? If you look really closely it's a updated Shangri-la class the enterprise G and the Titan NCC 1777 look virtually identical but with new looks
Can we see a video on the Churchill class
Hiya! Could you link me to which one you mean? Trying to search for it and not getting results :O
- Jack
I'd like to see if you haven't already a video on the Bounty BOP
Saavik is one of my Vulcans, to be honest, I was kinda hoping that she would make a brief cameo in Strange New Worlds in the future.
heh, and it's her pon-farring with Pike, and they show it like a Benny Hill vaudevillian act, except Pike never. gets. away. Maybe Spock could jump in and save the day, with echoes of the future.
USS Budapest (NCC-64923)
Fan film or a included Ina intensive history retelling on star trek legacy
so... wonder what the name of NCC-1776 was....
Captain Data of the USS Titan-B?
Genesis is a terraforming technology, that is so morally ambiguous as to be considered a weapon by most.
They should never have called it a Constitution. Neo Titan or Shangri-la would have been fine.
So an upgraded Luna looks like this? How do you go from futuristic looking Luna class Titan to clunky looking Titan/ Enterprise-G and insist its an upgrade and not a completely new line of ship? and have the balls to rename an existing clunker ship to Enterprise?? I am so lost with all this. 🤦♂️
Not a fan of the name change.
Saavik rises through 6 ranks in 5 years but poor old Harry Kim is the forever ensign!
Poor Harry!
that is Capt. Harry Kim in STO
Don't disrespect Fleet Ensign Kim
honestly, i can't stand that they chose to replace one legacy name with another. the Enterprise is supposed to be the pinnacle of Starfleet ship design when made, going from an odyssey class to a con III is such a downgrade while also disrespecting another legacy name.
It's it though? The moment they called it neo constitution it screamed call me Enterprise. Plus if you want bring starfleet back to exploration what better way than a Connie?
@@Monroehutch5 the first ship that comes to mind when I hear Enterprise is the E, followed by the D. While I’ll admit the importance of the Constitution, I’ve never been the biggest fan.
@@swordbrotherulbrecht3286 ah I see, I grew up in the eighties on old reruns of tos so Connie means explore to me. There was no way a new model Connie wasn't going to end up being a Enterprise given it's history of being the longest running ship to carry the name.
I agree, the enterprise-f was so much more ostentatious and just screamed, "Look at me with my fancy double neck" a flagship should be the largest most luxurious eye candy as they're usually not intended to be serving in a military role but in a diplomatic one. What other ship would be good enough to transport 200 federation ambassadors to a galactic peace conference?
understand why the writers chose to replace it with the enterprise-g though. It was probably meant as a nod to the original hero ship of the franchise... good old 1701!
@@Chronix- plus the F was a fan design so it was a cool way to bring fandom into canon while leaving room to do their own thing.
This is one of my favorite ships. It’s got some real fan film potential.
Lazy writing the Titan like the Enterprise was a Legacy ship and was completely disrespectful to its lineage the Enterprise G should of been a new ship ,goung from the Enterprise F to the Enterprise G was very underwhelming 😮
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form and format provided on this subject matter on the U.S.S. Titan and the various starship's of the same name and so forth indeed!.
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I don't know what we're going to talk about next but I would like it to be in real time not cartoon time
Dumb question but what happened to the Enterprise F? It was on screen for about 30 seconds or so.
Got renamed to the USS Dumptruck
I wish we had gotten the Eclipse class for the Enterprise-G and not a rechristened Titan as the Enterprise-G. It seemed like a short sell out to have the Titan re-christened to the Enterprise.
Love the Luna class! Gorgeous ship design. Ya, it bugs me too renaming the Titan-A, the E-G. Just a bad decision with the Writers/network. I still would like to see story with Savik sitting in the big chair. Speaking of... maybe Captain Jack might be due for a promotion...? Vice Admiral?... Commador? 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦🕊️
Thanks Captain Jack for sharing another fun & informative video!!! 🖖
Yeah, I like the Luna class. Because it looks more futuristic
"Chants 'BILL KRAUSE, BILL KRAUSE, BILL KRAUSE, BILL KRAUSE, BILL KRAUSE" and smiles so very much :-)
Fascinating
One of the best ship designers ever! He should have been in charge of Discovery’s ship designs, he gets the TOS aesthetic really well!
@@johnsledge3942 Agreed 💯, I'd have a BK designed ship in my trek show. I'd be proud to have him make me a ship for anything:-)
Why the fuck did they rename the Titan-A Enterprise?
If there's ever a legendary version of the Constitution 3, there has to be a Titan variant for it.
Honestly if they had named it the U.S.S. Picard at the end of Picard I would not be as pissed. I have played Star Trek Online since it came out and the Enterprise-F has been getting shitcanned canon-wise.
As muxh as I am not a fan of the F's design I would rather they had kept it as the Enterprise of that Era. The Titan is not worthy of the name.
I hope we get a Shangri La skin variant in Star Trek online for the Neo Connie
In TOS Kirk‘s Enterprise is NOT the Federation‘s flagship. Each and every time Kirk runs into another Starfleet captain he is treated and acts as if he‘s the junior officer. Had Enterprise been „the flagship“ - which is defined as „the ship from which a fleet is being commanded - Kirk would have had seniority in these encounters.
The only clear cut example of Enterprise being „the flagship“ is in First Contact. After Picard disobeyed the order to stay away from the battle against the Borg and assumes command of the battle, the captains of the other ships simply accept that as though Picard outranked them all.
I don’t understand why some fans insist That the Federation flagship „has to be an Enterprise“. What‘s so bad about Excelsior under Sulu being „the flag ship“? Even with Kirk commanding Enterprise-A. After all Kirk got demoted over the Genesis incident - which was a political decision made at least in part to appease the other powers. Putting a demoted Kirk in charge of „the flag ship“ would have turned that gesture of appeasment into an affront. For that reason I assume Excelsior took the role of „federation flagship“ as soon as she was mission ready. Excelsior also would have been the most advanced ship the Federation had at the time.
Could be that savak was Captain, but not ranked officers (O6). The captain is not always the highest ranked person either. Navy shenanigans
The enterprise ncc-1701 & ncc-1701a were never officially flagships. At the end of 1701s life, the excelsior was set to be flagship being the newest and most advanced ship in the fleet. The a was basically done to be nice to kirk. The first enterprise to be called the federation flagship was ncc-1701d
There is something obscene about how Trek continues to use the corporate definition of "flagship" rather than the Naval definition, which is much more appropriate since they are ships not merchandise.
@@ryancox4498 Right, isn't a flagship just the one the Admiral happens to be on at that time?
@@conanthelibrarian287 Yep. If the Fleet Admiral decided to hop on a janky old Oberth-class for dinner, that ship would be the flagship for the duration of his visit.
Comic books, novels, and video games are not canon. So where did you get all this information?
😊 As a design engineer, This is all about writers not giving a damn about the technology but rather the plot and story. (A rookie mistake)
The design of the “Titan” would be the equivalent of making a modern day destroyer look like a sailing ship from 150 years ago outfitted with modern tech.
People don’t realize that the constitution class design was THAT old. And ship designs change not for “looks” but because of function.
Obviously as time past ships started to smooth out and become larger for better structural stability and maneuverability on top of designing the ship around new technology to better complement the technological abilities of the ship.
Form follows function. The form or design of Kirks old ship looked the way it did because it was designed around or followed the functions of the technology of the time.
To go back to a 100+ year constitution class design just for the “feels” is the definition of stupidity.
I guess in the future it’s no longer Form follows function but rather design the ship first and then hope you can cram new tech in it and pray that it works ok … ish. 😂
It is dumb but it could be looked at as technology is so advanced that they can make a ship look however they want with minimal downsides. Unattractive as it may be.
Sweet, slick, new Titan design, starship, but still, the Nublua-Class 2365 design has an even slightly cooler look.
You forgot another ship under the TITAN name
USS Titan (Prometheus class)
I know Terry Matalas said that if given the opportunity they would make the USS Titan-B a Luna class ship.
Calling the Titan A the Enterprise G was the dumbest thing ever. They ruined both names in one fowl swoop, lol. It was just the cherry on the cake for an entire series of shite writing.
It's been said plenty, but that ship should not have been renamed Enterprise. It's not an Enterprise level ship. Nor does it make sense to give the captain's chair to an officer that jumped from no rank to captain in one year.
The titans seems like it's more powerful than it's replacement
Howard Day doing the lords work with his 3d model of the USS Shangri la !
Is that a Titan rocket shown at the far left in Riker’s USS Titan Observation Lounge?
so the neo constitution class or constitution III is basically the 2th century shangri-la class, it's the same hull but with modern nacelles
Nit picking here savac is probably in her 50s
Nit picking here savac is probably in her 50s
Is this a movie recap or a ship history, I'm confused
Riker went on reserve duty. They are not going to put a retired captain in charge of a whole fleet even for a day.
Rank in Star Trek is very aggravating.
Cheers jack
The Enterprise, NCC-1701 was an Academy training ship in the mid-2280’s, so would not have been the Federation flagship at that point. It’s debatable whether the Enterprise-A would have been the flagship as well.
Given the Titan’s NCC-1777 registry number, I’d say she was a Constitution-class sister ship of the original Enterprise. When some of the Constitution-class ships were refit like the Enterprise and Yorktown (later Enterprise-A), the Titan would have been refit into the new fast scout Shangri-La Class, to be followed up by many new-build ships in the NCC-25xx range.
Wrong way of thinking. Gene Roddenberry said once that numbers on ship has no meaning. He just chose one that looked best and was easy to remember. So going over the logic what NCC or number stands for is like monkey trying to overcomplicate how to eat banana.
@@sw-gs , so how would Starfleet pick their numbers?
Mid-2250s Constitutions seem to be mostly 16xx, 17xx.
The TOS Movie-era seem to be 2000-2500.
Early TNG seem to be in the 65000-72000 range.
Their”s way more evidence that the numbers are pulled sequentially, singularly or in batches, than not.
@@sw-gs that not how it works enymore in TNG they made it to were the registry numbers were more acurate to the real navy ships sense it made more sense
@@cursedcanine8414 It is fan idea. Not fact.
@@sw-gs , sorry to say, Gene Roddenberry’s flippant answer is probably more “fan fiction” than you’d think. And there,s more on-screen evidence supporting sequential registries than not.
2245 = 1700
2260s = 1800-1900
2270s = 2000 (remember, Excelsior was a long time in development)
2280s = 2500-4000 (early Excelsior multi mission explorers & Constellations we’re in this range)
2290s = 4000-8000
2300s = 8000-10000 (Constellation Class USS Victory was here)
2100s = 10000 - 20000 (USS Ambassador is here)
2200s = 20000 - 30000 (Ambassador Class multi mission explorers were in the NCC-26000 range)
2330s = 30000 - 45000 (many later, second-wave Excelsiors are here)
2340s = 45000 - 60000 (many New Orleans and Excelsiors are here. The Prometheus is here; very slow development)
2350s = 60000 - 70000 (many of the Nebulas, Akiras, New Orleans are here)
2360s = 70000 - 73000 (Galaxy Class, Nebulas, etc)
2370s = 74000 - 80000 (Defiants, Intrepids, Sovereigns, etc)
2380s = 80000 >. (USS Titan)
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Doesn’t it seem like the weapons tech is going backwards? The Enterprise-G has phaser turrets, instead of the newer phaser strip technology.
The -G has both
i think the renaming to enterprise-G is fitting. Titan was the only modern ship in the fleet to stand against the destruction of the federation. All the other ships in the fleet were involved in the conspiracy. It may not be the latest and greatest design but it proved itself as something special and deserving of star fleets most prestigious name.
The other Titan at 1:45 is a Titan missile.
Or rather, a Titan IV launcher.
Idk why, but the Shang-Ri La class fits more in her era rather than Neo-Constitution in her era. Plus that paint looks better than the new cold paint job of the Titan A or Enterprise G.
It made absolutely no sense to turn an old ship in to a new Enterprise. The Enterprise has always been the newest most technologically advanced ship at the time. But to take a salvaged Luna-class and reconstruct it into an entirely new ship and then slapping on the Enterprise name seems like an insult to the name Enterprise. It's like the producers created the shiny new ship and didn't want it to be a background ship.
The Titan is definitely one of my top five favorites.
Do the Fesarius!
The USS Titan should have been renamed Picard. The theme of Family was so big in Picard. For Paramount not to notice that fact at the end of the series is kind of naïve on their part. I think they were just looking for fan service and grabbed the closest ship that was available.
They supposedly did but changed it after seeing the scene "didn't work as well since the whole crew was involved instead of just Picard."
I like that the Titan became the EntG, I don't see it as erasing the Titan legacy but adding to it. Saavik and Riker both served on an Enterprise and Captained a Titan, add in that the Titan A was also constructed using parts and design elements from both previous Titans, the Titan and Enterprise legacies are both further enriched.
Such a disgusting ship. The worst enterprise ever...... God damn ugly..... what were they thinking?
The Neo Connie is not worthy of the name Enterprise! 😡