Ninja Turtles vs. Rescue Rangers: Which One's the Best? | Ranking the NES, Episode 26

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  • @AFigmentOfYourImaginationseses
    @AFigmentOfYourImaginationseses 8 місяців тому +83

    Whoever wins, we Spondylus

    • @Discospawn
      @Discospawn 7 місяців тому +5

      AvP: Athena Vs. Pitfall (Super)

    • @michaelkitchin9665
      @michaelkitchin9665 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Discospawn Athena has acidic blood. Pitfall Harry has thermal vision.

    • @jonathogm
      @jonathogm 7 місяців тому

      We bountolus

    • @teeveeparty
      @teeveeparty 7 місяців тому +1

      I can't believe it took this long for someone to come up with that and I'm mad that it wasn't me!

  • @nic_olenomicon
    @nic_olenomicon 7 місяців тому +23

    I think we can safely say that Jeff has said the words "low g man the low gravity man" more than any other person in history

    • @poposterous236
      @poposterous236 7 місяців тому

      Same with "Dinowars: the Destruction of Spondylus"

    • @simongalle3810
      @simongalle3810 7 місяців тому

      And certainly "is it better than... " preceeding it

  • @Mayonegg85
    @Mayonegg85 7 місяців тому +33

    Donatello became my favorite turtle BECAUSE of this game and still is to this day

    • @Renoistic
      @Renoistic 7 місяців тому +1

      The comic and show only increased my affection for Don, though. He was the smart one so he appealed to me personally.

  • @vizuz
    @vizuz 7 місяців тому +16

    You know it's bad when you are naming the positive points of Chiller😆

  • @BeartatoTime
    @BeartatoTime 7 місяців тому +7

    Quite enjoyed the speech-to-text existential freakout at 47:35
    "I'm
    I am
    I am?
    I'm sorry.
    I am??"

  • @meyejaco
    @meyejaco 7 місяців тому +10

    19:08 Catching ladders on jumps is my litmus test for NES platforming quality.

  • @darkroomzen
    @darkroomzen 7 місяців тому +6

    Accidentally set my playback speed to 1.75x and Dino Riki was fucking COOKING

  • @digitaldemigod
    @digitaldemigod 7 місяців тому +5

    @2:48:52 sometimes I think the people they got to program these games had never played a video game before. Like they were just programmers that got hired from some corporate job where they made accounting software or some shit. So they had no idea how a game should feel. I ran into this once with a guy I met who was trying to make a game engine of sorts for iOS games. He was trying to make something that any non-programmer could use to release an iOS game. It was actually decent. Except that he coded the button presses so that things don’t happen on “button press” but on “button release” and he did not fucking understand when I explained the difference. When you press A you want Mario to jump. You don’t want Mario to jump after you press and then release A. No matter how many times I explained it and even had him play Super Mario to demonstrate it, he did not get it. He was never a gamer, just a programmer who decided one day that maybe he should jump on the iOS video game bandwagon.

  • @Retro64_
    @Retro64_ 7 місяців тому +5

    Swamp Thing has the same taken damage noise as Bart vs the Space Mutants, was driving me crazy thinking where I heard that noise from. EDIT: It has the exact same SFX for everything...

  • @FourCogs
    @FourCogs 7 місяців тому +7

    18:20 Jeff considers joining the Foot clan.

  • @Celestatiune
    @Celestatiune 7 місяців тому +4

    I feel like Dino Riki was heading for like a top 40-50 rating before the jumping showed up

  • @JuiceJive
    @JuiceJive 7 місяців тому +5

    Based on the Swamp Thing ranking, there's going to be a big stack of Imagineering titles down near the bottom, from when they were churning out Bart Simpson vs X games.

  • @Raften89
    @Raften89 8 місяців тому +11

    I look forward to this every single week

  • @kiloyardstare
    @kiloyardstare 7 місяців тому +7

    Dinowarz should be locked into position in the center of the list as the NES game list meridian.

    • @thepolarphantasm2319
      @thepolarphantasm2319 7 місяців тому +1

      I got that game for 14$ when I was a kid and I hated it

    • @kiloyardstare
      @kiloyardstare 7 місяців тому +1

      I@@thepolarphantasm2319 It looked terrible on Jeff's playthrough. Kind of surprised it rated so high, but it does have a great name!

  • @Robaperas6
    @Robaperas6 7 місяців тому +4

    Good to see Chip ´n Dale ranked that high, I loved that game as a kid and now I have scientific proof, that I had impeccable taste in video games. Emphasis in had.

  • @TravisErickson5
    @TravisErickson5 6 місяців тому

    Jeff's ability to take in a breath, let it out slowly and keep playing bad games is a real gift. A gift for all of us.

  • @Johnsonicv
    @Johnsonicv 7 місяців тому +6

    Jeff is so in his element with this series. I love it

  • @meyejaco
    @meyejaco 7 місяців тому +5

    The underwater bomb defusal is as far as I ever made it in TMNT as a kid. Navigating the electrified seaweed seemed impossible to my brain. The dread of it is the main thing I associate with that game. Somehow, I didn't even remember the absurdity of that ceiling hit jump.

    • @jsc315
      @jsc315 7 місяців тому

      Though it's actually not as difficult as it looks. It's still ass though

    • @Renoistic
      @Renoistic 7 місяців тому

      I beat it on my second try and then I had it down. I could never get past the next level though.

  • @prismaticowl
    @prismaticowl 7 місяців тому +4

    I've got a weak spot for TMNT 1. My childhood best friend owned it and we played it all the time. Even the underwater section of the dam gets easy with a little practice, though you're basically saving Raph for that 'cause he can't do shit in any other situation. Until you get subweapons, anyway. Get Raph some boomerangs and you're golden.
    That said, the furthest we ever got as kids was stage 4 of I think 6? And we didn't get there often. Stage 3 was long and fairly complex, with some tough sections throughout. We didn't know anyone who actually beat it (with proof, of course. Several kids _claimed_ to have beaten it) and watching a full run of it these days it's easy to see why. There are a few good commentated runs here on YT if you'd like to see the best way to get through it.
    I can't hate TMNT 1. Nostalgia's a hell of a drug. And I was never good at beat-em-ups so I'm one of the rare people who prefer it to 2 and 3, even if they're objectively the superior entries on the NES. But yes, it was very much a 'keep Donatello alive' game. Leonardo could do in a pinch but they made Donnie so god damn strong that it didn't take long to realize he was gonna be your go-to turtle.

  • @gairarney3289
    @gairarney3289 29 днів тому +1

    I know this doesn't matter and I'm probably 1 of only 3 or 4 losers in the world who know, remember, or care about it, but the clones of Dale and weird aliens in that level of Rescue Rangers were a reference to an episode where aliens (specifically the one in the game) cloned Dale. I think the rocket ship was also in the episode.

  • @ChrisLT
    @ChrisLT 7 місяців тому +2

    After all the internet infamy of TMNT, it was nice to get a hard, science-based look at it. And to come to the same conclusion.

  • @KalimandoMalivol
    @KalimandoMalivol 7 місяців тому +2

    DinoRiki devs really though galaga would be improved by having instant death platforming and pits

  • @MimosaSector
    @MimosaSector 7 місяців тому +2

    Please do a SNES or Genisis version of this in the future.❤😂❤

    • @fisk0
      @fisk0 7 місяців тому

      yes, so many interesting military sims on the Genesis. While I of course appreciate Top Gun, Flight of the Intruder and F-15 Strike Eagle, the Genesis has near PC quality ports of LHX Attack Chopper and 688 Attack Sub

  • @DarvonBrown
    @DarvonBrown 7 місяців тому +2

    OMG been waiting for this episode forever. turtles vs rescue rangers. I cant believe he has them both in the same video

  • @CassidyListon
    @CassidyListon 7 місяців тому +1

    Flight of the Intruder seems WAY better than Top Gun. The framerate is better, at least

  • @Gafgarion45
    @Gafgarion45 7 місяців тому

    Sky Kid is my jam, but that was the first time I ever saw Swamp Thing. Decided to go look up a speedrun of it, and boy, that's almost a completely different game than what we saw here. Swamp Thing can run like the wind if you know what you're doing. It doesn't make it look like a better game, mind you, but he sure can haul ass.

  • @fisk0
    @fisk0 7 місяців тому

    Quite the coincidence, the PC version of Flight of the Intruder (which is far more of a serious milsim than the NES version) was just released on GOG.

  • @TheUncleshady
    @TheUncleshady 7 місяців тому +2

    When he jumps, Dino Riki borrowed the "throwing the ball" SFX from Bases Loaded..... and the Rescue Rangers throwing and taking damage sound straight out of Atari 2600...

  • @JuiceJive
    @JuiceJive 7 місяців тому +2

    In Flight of the Intruder, the take-off and first-person view sections are in the F4 Phantom, while the surface-attack and landing sections are the A6 Intruder.

    • @fisk0
      @fisk0 7 місяців тому

      yeah, the game could be clearer on that (though the briefing does mention that the different aircraft have different missions). In the PC version you get 8 aircraft, four of each type and switch manually between them, so there's not that odd mid-mission forced switch. Of course, the PC version is quite different in almost every other regard as well, being a considerably more realistic flight sim where the F-4 lacks a machine gun and has unreliable missiles, and you have to identify targets before attacking them.

  • @TheAwesomePandaLPs
    @TheAwesomePandaLPs 7 місяців тому +1

    Nothing but the best quality from Glen Rock, NJ

  • @aegisfate117
    @aegisfate117 7 місяців тому +1

    The reason you think of "Dino" as being pronounced as "Dee No" is because of that song Boys are Back in Town when he goes "down at Dino's"

  • @daneofurexistence
    @daneofurexistence 7 місяців тому +1

    Alright! TMNT, Rescue Rangers, and Dino Riki! 3 of my childhood games….this will be interesting.
    EDIT: Have video games affected my affinity for the individual Turtles? No. Not personally.

  • @IgnatiusAlpha
    @IgnatiusAlpha 3 місяці тому

    Boy oh boy, this was a group of games, huh.
    Like many, many others of TMNT-loving kids in the 80s, I played the game, but never got far in it. And you hit the nail on the head where it was like a punch in the gut to get that kind of game as a fan of the Ninja Turtles. That being said, there are speedruns here on YT of people beating the game just using Raphael, without using subweapons, and without dying. Psychopaths, I tells ya.
    Dino Riki's platforming segments can be frustrating for sure, but it's still a fun game! I beat it years ago. I can appreciate Flight of the Intruder's changes in perspective, but it still looks clunky as hell to play. Sky Kid looks super fun, as does Chip 'n Dale, but Swamp Thing...yeah. The thing that caught my attention almost immediately is it uses sound effects and similar animations from The Simpsons games and Home Alone 2, so not only is it a ghastly experience in its own right, it has to rip-off other bad games to boot!
    Onto Episode 27!

  • @funforalgernon
    @funforalgernon 7 місяців тому +1

    I’m so pleased that another game with a colon in the title performed well.

    • @mikesmith1892
      @mikesmith1892 7 місяців тому +1

      I, too, have a colon and am doing okay.

  • @jussified
    @jussified 7 місяців тому +1

    a game always has to be compared to Dynowarz the destruction of Spondylous, I believe that's the law.

  • @Discospawn
    @Discospawn 7 місяців тому +4

    17:38 - good auto-caption moment
    Edit: 1:08:14 - even better standalone sound clip

  • @JuicyPlayer
    @JuicyPlayer 7 місяців тому +1

    The Dam stage continues to end games to this day. I imagine many 80s kids adventures ended there.

  • @kentheonlywellmaybedontoo9754
    @kentheonlywellmaybedontoo9754 6 місяців тому

    “this second game today, its a crunchy one, it comes from faith…”

  • @Mrster
    @Mrster 7 місяців тому +1

    Donatello's bo in Turtles in Time etc was like the go to turtle, but he's also slower and doesn't do as much damage. Raph and Michelangelo are faster and hit harder but with less range. I always gravitated towards the latter two later on.

  • @nomchonks
    @nomchonks 7 місяців тому

    That TMNT game holds a special place in my mind. The only TMNT game I had was the side scrolling beat em up arcade port, so I only saw the other one when I went over to someone else's house. It had so much more going on and such great music, it seemed so cool to me. Thank god I never really got to play it.

  • @fisk0
    @fisk0 7 місяців тому

    It's great to see more NES flight sims covered, while it didn't have as many as the Sega Genesis, there were still a number of them on the platform. It is a little confusing that Flight of the Intruder switches between the F-4 and A-6 mid-mission, having you launch with one and land with the other, in the PC version you commanded a whole of group of both types of aircraft and could switch manually between them.

  • @mrjuanchoca4294
    @mrjuanchoca4294 7 місяців тому +2

    Zone J is quite the bop

  • @moat7031
    @moat7031 7 місяців тому +1

    Raph was my fave but I played Hyperstone Heist first where he was so FAST. I probably would have hated him if this was the first one I played. Though that had the downside where I really tried to make him work...fun times :(

  • @JuiceJive
    @JuiceJive 7 місяців тому +5

    "Man, we gotta get through some more games on this list!" *Proceeds to play Rescue Rangers for 45 minutes*

    • @mmd3585
      @mmd3585 7 місяців тому

      he did get through some more games on this list, though.

  • @bluespaceman7937
    @bluespaceman7937 8 місяців тому +3

    Ninja Turtles vs Rescue Rangers sounds like an awesome team-up game.

  • @seansunderland6343
    @seansunderland6343 7 місяців тому +2

    Throughout this series I’ve fully accepted that the science almost certainly outweighs my childhood nostalgia. There are a fair few entrants that I’ll debate a few places here and there, but nothing has hit me in the gut more than the placing of TMHT. I know it has a reputation nowadays for being rock hard and not fun, but I genuinely found the dam level fairly straightforward, and the rest of the game so much harder. This coming from a man who rarely finishes a game because they’re all just too hard, so I’m far from an elite gamer. And yes, I still to this day rank Don as the toughest turtle

  • @OrinLinwe
    @OrinLinwe 7 місяців тому

    "Sir, our extensive play-testing is indicating significant issues at the lilypads. Uh-huh. Yeah, they're all eating absolute shit at it. So, maybe we'll circle back on that? Ok, sounds good?".

  • @joshua1281
    @joshua1281 7 місяців тому +2

    The Adventures of Dino Riki: further proof that Platforming Ruins Everything

    • @fisk0
      @fisk0 7 місяців тому

      yup, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance was such a good Diablo clone up until they forced you to do 3D platforming from a top-down perspective in the Thieves Guild

  • @StanleyFlinn
    @StanleyFlinn 7 місяців тому

    I definitely did not know that the Legendarily tough dam sequence in Ninja Turtles was like, the second thing you did in the game.

  • @aihf
    @aihf 7 місяців тому

    Everyone has that one game that they remember being impossible to beat when they were a kid. Mine was Dino Riki. I refuse to even try again as an adult because it traumatized me so badly.

  • @sydneymeanstreet
    @sydneymeanstreet 7 місяців тому +2

    There's a great video on Displaced Gamers that dives into some of the reasons TMNT feels so shitty.

  • @houdin654jeff
    @houdin654jeff 7 місяців тому

    Flight of the Intruder is strange, not sure why it changes planes on you without landing the first one, but the jet you take off in is an F-4 Phantom, the landing one is the titular Grumman made Intruder. The game is actually based on a PC game that was based on a novel that got turned into a movie around the time the NES port was coming out. Based on the Wikipedia article, the movie bombed (sorry for the pun) and was also poorly receive by critics.

  • @josephbustamante4774
    @josephbustamante4774 7 місяців тому

    Less than an hour into the episode and I've already heard references to The Chronic and Regulate

  • @pincombe
    @pincombe 7 місяців тому +2

    i love the ranking of nes games

  • @JamesInDigital
    @JamesInDigital 7 місяців тому +1

    I mean, I mostly get it, but also I played the hell out of the turtles and enjoyed it. The gap jumps were bad and the sudden difficulty ramp at the pre Technodrome level is pretty rough. I guess the children would say git gud.

  • @ijustgotshot12
    @ijustgotshot12 7 місяців тому

    This is the greatest ongoing series on UA-cam.

  • @kingkarljfs7965
    @kingkarljfs7965 7 місяців тому +1

    TMNT on NES is like the next days left over pizza. Disgusting but goooooood!

  • @funforalgernon
    @funforalgernon 7 місяців тому +1

    Whew…thank you Rescue Rangers, this was a rough week otherwise.

  • @mbk337
    @mbk337 6 місяців тому

    I was always a Mikey fan. Nunchucks and the party dude factor drove it home. Not to mention, I like orange.

  • @MNeely
    @MNeely 7 місяців тому

    My favorite part of Jeff’s videos is the sideways; autogenerated captioning.

  • @Wazanator
    @Wazanator 7 місяців тому

    I haven't thought about Logan Whitehurst in years. Listened to a lot of I Would Be a Biggest Octopus in highschool.

  • @xtlm
    @xtlm 7 місяців тому

    Rescue Rangers was all about the Multiplayer and how you would pick each other up or hit each other and screw everyone over lol

  • @ladambell
    @ladambell 7 місяців тому

    The moment I heard the sound effects in Swamp Thing, I knew it was going to be shitty because it sounded exactly like the awful NES Simpsons games. Probably built on that same engine.

  • @OrinLinwe
    @OrinLinwe 7 місяців тому

    Of all the games on the NES that clearly has contempt for children, TMNT is pretty high up there. If you're 7 and stoked for the turtles, you're about to get an abject lesson on managed expectations.

  • @Shiftygism
    @Shiftygism 7 місяців тому +1

    Zipper's a fly not a bee, bro...gosh!

  • @xtlm
    @xtlm 7 місяців тому +1

    Isn't Rambo set in Vietnam and on the NES?

  • @CassidyListon
    @CassidyListon 7 місяців тому

    I didn't grow up with Dino Riki, but it sure doesn't seem like it would be worse than Ikari Warriors. That NES port of Ikari Warriors is... rough.

  • @Iam3DHomer
    @Iam3DHomer 7 місяців тому

    Looked up a speedrun for Swamp Thing and it looks like there is a way to walk faster. Basically the speed of the jump. So I think this rating ends up being a little unfair.

  • @Daint_McTaint
    @Daint_McTaint 8 місяців тому +1

    Ughh… I have terrible memories of leaving my Nintendo on because TMNT didn’t have any progress saves- and the game was so terrible and frustrating that you couldn’t endure playing for more than 5 minutes.

  • @poposterous236
    @poposterous236 7 місяців тому

    It gives me no end of relief to hear Jeff giving it to the Turtles game. Ever since I was a kid I absolutely hated it but everyone else around me not only loved it, but were kind of experts at it. I just hated the way it played and felt.

  • @benito6036
    @benito6036 7 місяців тому

    This video was better than Dynowarz: Destruction of Spondylous

  • @beatchef
    @beatchef 7 місяців тому +6

    The thing about the Dam level in TMNT is that if you stick to a turtle until he dies then start again with a new turtle 4 times, it's really hard. If you swap turtles when the one you are controlling is low on health, then you have 4 lifebars of health with no starting over, and some room to brute-force the hardest parts.

  • @MonotoneTim
    @MonotoneTim 7 місяців тому

    Just sat down to eat, perfect timing Jeff.

  • @sunnyplastazion9324
    @sunnyplastazion9324 7 місяців тому

    Rescue Rangers… one of the best 2 player experiences on NES, next to Contra and TMNT 2

  • @digitaldemigod
    @digitaldemigod 7 місяців тому

    I feel like I need to go watch a Swamp Thing movie now. It’s been at least 35 years since I’ve seen one. Were there robot mice and were his arms really short but only when he punched things?
    Ok in reference to my other comment about non gamer programmers… yeah who the fuck makes sense super long scrolling fall to your death like that second part? Why would you do that?

  • @ice_queen9
    @ice_queen9 7 місяців тому

    i've only read Alan Moore's Swamp Thing (and only a little bit of that tbh). I assume it used to be different, because in those comics it seemed really unsuited to be turned into a platformer lol

    • @ice_queen9
      @ice_queen9 7 місяців тому

      Dr. Purple Evil Man: AHH, C'MON FUCK A GUY

  • @LordHershebel
    @LordHershebel 7 місяців тому +3

    RANK THESE NINTENDO TAPES

  • @jsc315
    @jsc315 7 місяців тому +2

    That turtles game is ass, but as a kid in love with TMNT. This stuff was legit the best.

  • @misterburns103
    @misterburns103 7 місяців тому

    Hoping to see SkyShark. The hypest, most satisfying music. Made a generic vertical shooter into a personal classic.

  • @killianamanda4014
    @killianamanda4014 8 місяців тому +1

    Also you should check out blades of steel if it’s not in the list

  • @siamesegiant
    @siamesegiant 7 місяців тому +1

    I really need you to finish this up, so that we can get onto the REALLY important business: ranking Sega Master System games

  • @AthemXIII
    @AthemXIII 3 місяці тому

    47:42 I am I I am? I'm sorry I am? I'm sorry I am?? I I am??

  • @livinggarbagetruck
    @livinggarbagetruck 7 місяців тому

    When it comes to TMNT, the mission of destroying the game that lives in my head was accomplished. The fond memory of playing it on a too-high TV at my grandma's house is now dead

  • @jonathogm
    @jonathogm 7 місяців тому

    Can't wait for Ranking the Speccy. Somehow Jeff's misery brings me joy 😅

  • @steve43ful
    @steve43ful 7 місяців тому +1

    If it isn’t mentioned during the stream, there’s a great video by Displaced Gamers that looks at TMNT’s coding to explicate just why the jumping in this game sucks shit through a chain link fence.

    • @junibug6790
      @junibug6790 7 місяців тому +1

      There's also a video out here on the You-ter-webs (maybe the same one) that breaks down the code for the Dam level, and how the developers basically janked the shit out of the movement mechanics until they ended up with something kind of, but not totally, like swimming, and then said "that's probably as good as it's ever going to get."

    • @steve43ful
      @steve43ful 7 місяців тому +1

      @@junibug6790 same guy, different video. He also has a great video on how the math behind the jump in Strider is a completely insane garbage fire.

  • @bluechew69
    @bluechew69 8 місяців тому +6

    The science is in. No game on this list is as good or will ever be as good as Master Blu and the Drunkard Chu. Which is the unofficial and unreleased sequel to Master Chu and the Drunkard Hu.

  • @HalcyonSunset
    @HalcyonSunset 7 місяців тому

    My favorite part is after ranting for 10 minutes about how terrible tmnt is, he defeats a boss saving April, says Yay and the auto cc translated it to "Gay", as if it knows Jeff's real thoughts hahaha

  • @Goblin_Hunter87
    @Goblin_Hunter87 7 місяців тому

    Not able to join the board, but Rad Racer needs love!

  • @EddieTHead2266
    @EddieTHead2266 7 місяців тому

    Is Swamp Thing eating cupcakes for energy??

  • @buzzclikverifyme
    @buzzclikverifyme 7 місяців тому +1

    51:25 Jeff didn't even say anything there; the auto captions could just read his thoughts.

  • @VancedBoi
    @VancedBoi 7 місяців тому

    When talking movies I prefer Flight of the Navigator.

  • @Achoohorsey
    @Achoohorsey 7 місяців тому

    So… TMNT is just a Castlevania clone? That’s wild.

  • @furrymessiah
    @furrymessiah 7 місяців тому +2

    SPONDEELOOS

  • @flemishdog
    @flemishdog 7 місяців тому

    Swamp Thing. do not bring your evil here

  • @vizuz
    @vizuz 7 місяців тому

    The science was wrong today. Flight of the Intruder is not a better game than Captain Skyhawk.

  • @dramarent
    @dramarent 7 місяців тому

    TMNT has some bops in it

  • @nelson-haha89
    @nelson-haha89 7 місяців тому

    DinoRiki was hype. Very entertaining.

  • @mowkikowski
    @mowkikowski 5 місяців тому

    Ch-Ch-Ch-Chip and Dale's MMORPG
    Ch-Ch-Ch-Chip and Dale's
    With extreme PvP

    • @Tenfey
      @Tenfey 5 місяців тому

      Whenever I died in Final Fantasy XI and lost a bunch of XP, I always thought about the Chip and Dale's MMORPG

  • @touch.interface
    @touch.interface 7 місяців тому

    17:36 that's me

  • @GreatistheWorld
    @GreatistheWorld 7 місяців тому +1

    Everybody says they liked Donatello now, but when I was a kid *everyone* wanted to be Leonardo because he had two katanas! I always had zero friction getting my fave Donatello, who no one wanted because he had a stick (boring) and was purple (gay color).
    Michelangelo came second for everyone as he was the most stoned