The Contrarians Presents “Build a Bad Album" Episode 12: Led Zeppelin

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  • @thecontrarians2438
    @thecontrarians2438  Рік тому +3

    Which of these songs don't belong and which songs did we miss?
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  • @PeterTea
    @PeterTea Рік тому +11

    Let’s put it this way, if Zeppelin was playing a concert and this was their setlist I’d still be camping out for tickets.

  • @lance98541
    @lance98541 Рік тому +14

    Since I’ve Been Lovin You is a masterpiece. The best tune on Zep 3 IMO.

  • @IvanLendl87
    @IvanLendl87 Рік тому +6

    Martin built a great side of a Led Zeppelin album. Every one of his picks are actually great songs.

  • @DrJimmy88
    @DrJimmy88 Рік тому +10

    The Crunge is the only "bad" Zep song and it's not even bad compared to most other bands. The rhythm section is phenomenal on it.

    • @PeterTea
      @PeterTea Рік тому +1

      I agree. I think Robert’s vocals gets a bit annoying by the end but it’s still a decent tune.

  • @chrisdelisle3954
    @chrisdelisle3954 Рік тому +5

    I think Martin's choices are pretty terrible. Marco's choices are fine and arguable. But there are a lot of landmines in the Zeppelin discography, so I'm sure my choices would elicit scoffs and sighs as well. If I had to add a side 2:
    1) D'Yer Maker - just the worst
    2) I Can't Quit You Baby (the least best song off the first album)
    3) Boogie With Stu
    4) Black Country Woman
    5) Tea For One - not sure how Martin zeroed in on Since I've Been Loving You when this is a pale imitation of Since I've Been Loving You

  • @dennisquinn7729
    @dennisquinn7729 Рік тому +5

    Martin, I love your work, but I also love "Your Time is Gonna Come"! Jonesy's organ parts are amazing!

  • @jasonleonard4000
    @jasonleonard4000 Рік тому +2

    Great episode, boys! Fun stuff, for sure.
    (The Least Worst... album was Type O Negative. Peter Steele had that self-deprecating rapier wit!!)

  • @dtchinacat3973
    @dtchinacat3973 Рік тому +3

    Jefferson Airplane has "The Worst of the Jefferson Airplane" which is a fantastic Best of!

  • @MrMojoRisin
    @MrMojoRisin Рік тому +1

    Great show guys.
    1. The Crunge (A little Weird, But Ok)
    2. You Shook Me (Not Into Slow Blues)
    3. I Can’t Quit You Baby (Same As Above)
    4. Moby Dick (Ok Instrumental)
    5. Royal Orleans (Just Ok)
    1. Hats Off To (Roy) Harper (Awful)
    2. Your Time Is Gonna Come (Doesn’t Get Going)
    3. The Lemon Song (Too Bluesy)
    4. Candy Store Rock (Annoying)
    5. Four Sticks (Average)
    I love Hot Dog & South Bound Suarez. Physical Graffiti is their best album in my opinion.

    • @kimberlywalker3970
      @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому +1

      I agree w/almost everything you listed except The Lemon Song and Four Sticks. I love Four Sticks!!

    • @AbbeyRoadkill1
      @AbbeyRoadkill1 Рік тому +1

      I agree with all of them except "Four Sticks." Love that one.

  • @daveycretin664
    @daveycretin664 Рік тому +2

    Interesting part of the video: When Mr. Popoff called “For Your Life” a “chord-y” song, the closed captioning printed the word QWERTY - in all caps - as opposed to chordy. Bizarre!

  • @sufferingzappatache7231
    @sufferingzappatache7231 Рік тому +3

    My album: Lead Balloon
    Side One
    1. Hot Dog
    2. Boogie With Stu
    3. Candy Store Rock
    4. Hats off to (Roy) Harper
    Side Two
    1. Dy'er Ma'ker
    2. All My Love
    3. Moby Dick
    4. The Crunge

    • @jimmm7339ki3456
      @jimmm7339ki3456 Рік тому +2

      All My Love? Really?

    • @sufferingzappatache7231
      @sufferingzappatache7231 Рік тому +2

      @@jimmm7339ki3456 yeah, I understand the significance of the song and why Plant wrote it, but it just doesn't do anything for me.

    • @AbbeyRoadkill1
      @AbbeyRoadkill1 Рік тому

      @@sufferingzappatache7231 Page's guitar work and John Paul-Jones' synthesizer solo on that song are worth the price of entry. I think it's a beautiful tune.

    • @DAGDRUM53
      @DAGDRUM53 10 місяців тому

      @@sufferingzappatache7231 All My Love does nothing for me for the same reason as yours. But I like D'yer Mak'er because there are almost 20 great Bonham drum fills.

  • @grimtraveller7923
    @grimtraveller7923 Рік тому +1

    Interestingly, on Martin's side, the only one I'd pick would be "The Lemon Song" but not for the reasons he went for. On my copy, I've edited it so that middle section which "rambles on and on"......{😉} is very short. The rest of the song I quite like and it's pretty heavy in parts.
    "Since I've been loving you" for me is Zeppelin gold, as is "For your Life." I have adored the former for 43 years and the latter took a few more years to grow on me but since about '95, it's been my favourite track on "Presence." "Hots on for nowhere" was actually an early fave of mine when I first heard the album back in 1980. I still love it.
    "Your time is gonna come" is a song that really showcases what Led Zeppelin were originally meant to be, which is a varied band that had its fingers in a number of different pies ~ including pop. Page and Jones had, between them, done tons of sessions on a variety of artists' records and they were musicians that could turn their hand to a bewildering array of styles. "Your time is gonna come" is part of that original blueprint and represents the pop angle, alonside the blues angle, the folk angle, the exotica angle and the heavy rock angle.
    If one thinks about it, both Zeppelin and Purple had similar beginnings, not least that they both came together in '68 and were musicians and singers that had to learn to blend together rather than friends that had been playing for ages as kids or people that regularly jammed and decided to form a group. The main difference between the two was that Zeppelin remained Jimmy Page's brainchild and more or less kept to his original vision, whereas the guy that initially put the idea together that became Deep Purple, Chris Curtis, floated off into the ether and the people he'd selected were left holding the baby and had to proceed from there which partly accounts for their lack of specific direction until 1970. But both outfits didn't begin as heavy rockers, they were more varied than that with heavy rock forming only a part of their output.
    It was live gigs that cemented Zep's rise to stardom and in 1969, they played loud heavy rock on stage and that impacted people. It's interesting that on their early tours of the US, their manager used to find out from DJs what the most popular tracks from "Led Zeppelin" and later "Led Zeppelin 2" were and the band tailored the set accordingly. The songs that made people sit up and go "Wow !" on the debut were not the Indian, pop or folky songs, it was the heavies. But songs like "Your time is gonna come" are nevertheless as vital to early Led Zeppelin as anything else that apeared on that first album.

  • @domielakrabi3276
    @domielakrabi3276 Рік тому +1

    Here is my grading of the "bad" LZ songs:
    The Crunge - 8
    Hot Dog - 3 (this one really deserves to be on this album)
    Candy Store Rock - 5
    Hats Off to (Roy) Harper - 6
    South Bound Saurez - 8
    Your Time Is Gonna Come - 7
    The Lemon Song - 5
    Since I've Been Loving You - 9 (my favorite blues by LZ)
    For Your Life - 6
    Hots On For Nowhere - 5
    It makes an average 6.2 - pretty decent

  • @stevemcnary7963
    @stevemcnary7963 Рік тому +3

    It's called In Through The Outdoor

  • @Skycladatdusk78
    @Skycladatdusk78 Рік тому +3

    Nobody's Fault But Theirs :
    Side A :
    1 - D'yer Mak'er
    2 - Hot Dog
    3 - Royal Orleans
    4 - Hots On For Nowhere
    Side B:
    1 - Hats Off To (Roy) Harper
    2 - South Bound Saurez
    3 - The Crunge
    4 - Tea For One

    • @SomeSong2
      @SomeSong2 Рік тому +1

      That’s a great title.

    • @Skycladatdusk78
      @Skycladatdusk78 Рік тому +1

      @@SomeSong2 Thanks, I was also thinking of calling it Your Time Is Gonna Be Wasted.

    • @AbbeyRoadkill1
      @AbbeyRoadkill1 Рік тому +1

      Finally, someone who picked all mediocre songs! Good job, even though I slightly disagree with "South Bound Suarez." I kinda like that one.

    • @Skycladatdusk78
      @Skycladatdusk78 Рік тому

      @@AbbeyRoadkill1 Thanks! I don't really dislike any of those songs, they were just the most mediocre of the Zeppelin catalogue, I don't think they ever released anything bad.

  • @billymac72
    @billymac72 Рік тому +2

    I agree about “Your Time,” “Hot Dog,” and some others, but “Hots on for Nowhere” is a very cool tune. I love how Page builds the guitar and adds a different little element in each verse. It was also used to great effect in the “Dogtown & Z Boys” documentary. I once saw a female Zep tribute band do a killer version of that live.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Рік тому +1

      Hots On For Nowhere is my fave song on Presence.

    • @drterylene
      @drterylene Рік тому

      @@lyndoncmp5751 Same here. I'm surprised to see so many people are down on it. It's a rare moment of breezy, rocking fun on an album that has a lot of moments of drudgery.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Рік тому +1

      @@drterylene
      Exactly. Its unlike anything Zeppelin ever did so it sounds fresh and interesting compared to the more staid other stuff on there.

  • @drterylene
    @drterylene Рік тому

    In Through the Outhouse:
    Side A:
    1. Tea for One
    2. Dazed and Confused
    3. Hats Off to (Roy) Harper
    4. I'm Gonna Crawl
    Side B:
    1. You Shook Me
    2. The Lemon Song
    3. Fool in the Rain
    4. I Can't Quit You Baby

  • @SomeSong2
    @SomeSong2 Рік тому +1

    My album title: Pheasants
    Side A:
    1. Hot Dog
    2. Tea for One
    3. The Crunge
    4. I Can’t Quit You Baby
    Side B:
    1. Poor Tom
    2. Hots on for Nowhere
    3. Hats Off (for Roy Harper)
    4. The Battle of Evermore

    • @MartinPopoff
      @MartinPopoff Рік тому +1

      Scott for the win. Pheasants. Brilliant.

    • @SomeSong2
      @SomeSong2 Рік тому

      My proudest accomplishment in some time.

    • @AbbeyRoadkill1
      @AbbeyRoadkill1 Рік тому +1

      I was agreeing with you right down the line until the last song. "Battle of Evermore" is fantastic.

  • @KowankoMusic
    @KowankoMusic Рік тому +2

    I'd agree with most of these ("Hot Dog" features a painfully sloppy performance from Page, showing how far the mighty had fallen and the Roy Harper homage is inessential Zep for sure). However I've always enjoyed the Zeppi-fied James Brown pastiche of "The Crunge" (leave it to these guys do a funk jam with an odd-time-signature) and "Since I've Been Loving You" has a stunning turn-around section which completely lifts it out of ordinary blues and puts it into classic status IMO.

    • @matthewashman1406
      @matthewashman1406 Рік тому

      lol, Hot dog is one of my favourite riffs and solos from page. The tone is killer and its just a laugh . But I get it

  • @PeterTea
    @PeterTea Рік тому +3

    The Lemon Song is awesome. Have you heard JPJ’s bass line? And Since I’ve Been Loving you is amazing too. Lol. To each their own I suppose.
    The Crunge and Hats off to Roy Harper are the only Zeppelin songs I’m not that big on. They’re still decent but nothing special.

  • @jimekberg
    @jimekberg Рік тому +3

    I must say that The Lemon Song is a really good song.

  • @MartinPopoff
    @MartinPopoff Рік тому +3

    You guys are surprisingly pleasant so far. Marco is scared to come over here and look. I did a podcast episode on bands with the angriest fans and I'm pretty sure I included us Zep freaks.

    • @tommyaddison6539
      @tommyaddison6539 Рік тому

      Zep is my favorite band of all time, so I know this will draw some ire from me haha. About to watch

    • @tommyaddison6539
      @tommyaddison6539 Рік тому

      Since I’ve Been Lovin You?! Blasphemy haha. I know you’re not into the slow blues tunes by ANY band....I’ve heard you blast Deep Purples Mistreated many times lol

    • @kimberlywalker3970
      @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому

      You should a building a good Led Zeppelin album show.

  • @truckerkevthepaidtourist
    @truckerkevthepaidtourist Рік тому

    Actually guys one band did do this in 1970
    It was a compilation album an RCA records released what was called the worst of Jefferson airplane
    But just trying to have some fun at everybody's expense it was all their greatest stuff Plus more up to that point

  • @zodiac6968
    @zodiac6968 Рік тому +1

    Livin" Lovin 'Maid, Moby Dick and D'Yer Maker.

  • @dangaucher2245
    @dangaucher2245 Рік тому +2

    Hats off for Roy i think is awesome demented Delta blues!Neat tune

  • @poitor5915
    @poitor5915 Рік тому +1

    i’ve always thought a that 2/3 songs of ‘presence’ go on a little longer than necessary and adding a 8 th song might of made a difference☝🏻personally i luv the band so much i couldn’t fill an album ironically i could only release a single four sticks/hats of to harper 😊

  • @joniturbe7535
    @joniturbe7535 Рік тому +1

    Very good show as always.
    Personally I'm not sure if I would be able to choose 10.
    The ones I would not include from your choices are Since I've been lovin' you, South Bound Saurez and Your Time is gonna come.
    One song that has always bothered me is Tea For No One. I love Since I've Been Lovin' You but on this one they seem to be self-plagiarizing themselves, I feel like Robert Plant and Jimmy Page are more concerned with trying to keep it from being too obvious rather than writing a great song.
    But this is a very interesting exercise.

    • @howie5th
      @howie5th Рік тому

      I agree with Tea For One.

  • @DJDOGG31
    @DJDOGG31 Рік тому +3

    Since I’ve been loving you is on here??????? That’s ridiculous. I love Martin but come on man!

  • @Meat_and_Potatoes
    @Meat_and_Potatoes Рік тому +1

    I'm probably in the minority but I actually like listening to "Hot Dog" and "Southbound Suarez."

  • @IraSiegel
    @IraSiegel Рік тому +2

    I dig The Crunge, mostly because of Bonham’s unusual odd time groove.

    • @bodowen
      @bodowen Рік тому +1

      Yeah it’s obvious that neither of these two are musicians. There’s a lot to appreciate.

    • @IraSiegel
      @IraSiegel Рік тому

      @@bodowen Martin is/was a drummer, but to each their own I suppose. 🤷🏻‍♂

  • @rael2099
    @rael2099 Рік тому

    I'm surprised none of Coda was picked for this list. The whole album is like vol. 2 to this one, lol.
    Dyer Maker and Fool in the rain as the worst Zep songs, indisputably. I still can't understand why people find them appealing.
    FYI, Since I've Been Loving You is probably the song that most female Zep fans love. It's sexy, they say (shrugs shoulders).
    Having said this, this would be my Zep bad album:
    A
    1. Dyer Maker
    2. Hats off to (Roy Harper)
    3. Born y aur stomp
    4. Boogie with Stu {an attempt to an Exile on Main St. Song? Ugh, leave that to the Stones}
    5. Battle of Evermore {I never liked the screeching vocals everyone's so fascinated with}
    B
    1. Fool in the Rain
    2. Royal Orleans
    3. Nobody's fault but mine
    4. Moby Dick
    5. Trampled Under Foot {My interest for this song died quickly, it's so damn repetitive and lasts forever, it's like a Chemical Brothers song}.

  • @stevemcnary7963
    @stevemcnary7963 Рік тому

    Mine are 1. Carouselumbra. 2. All Of My Love 3. Southbound Suarez. 4. Hats Off To Harper 5. The Crunge. 6. Dyer Maker. 7. Fool in The Rain 8. Hot Dog 9. Moby Dick 10. Candystore Rock

    • @kimberlywalker3970
      @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому

      I assume you're not a fan of Carribean music or ITTOD?! I'm w/you on songs 4 & 5 and 8 - 10.

  • @caramanico1
    @caramanico1 Рік тому +1

    I can only disagree with Candy Store Rock - listen to the drumming. Actually, instead of listening to all of Page's overdubbed guitars on Presence, listen to Bonzo's drumming throughout. His spectacular, album-length drumming performance on Presence is sorely underappreciated.

  • @paulcropper4717
    @paulcropper4717 Рік тому +1

    I would swap D’yer Mak’er for Southbound Suarez and I would be in total agreement.

  • @AbbeyRoadkill1
    @AbbeyRoadkill1 Рік тому

    I understand all the choices here except for "Since I've Been Loving You." Even if it is a Moby Grape rip-off, they do a fantastic job with it. One of the highlights of Zeppelin III in my view. I also think "South Bound Suarez" is pretty good.

  • @frankstanovic4401
    @frankstanovic4401 Рік тому +2

    I agreed with alot of their pick . The ones i didnt agree with is Since ive been lovin you and candy store rock. And, for me, In through the out door is by far my worst zep lp.

  • @MetalMan73100
    @MetalMan73100 Рік тому +4

    Such a contrarian thing to do to leave out D´yer Mak´er from this list of ten Zeppelin stinkers.

  • @ShawnGraves
    @ShawnGraves Рік тому

    The channel is called the Contrarians...so here's my five:
    1. Battle of Evermore
    2. Dyer Maker
    3. All My Love
    4. Fool in the Rain
    5. The Crunge
    PS...love Zeppelin's slow blues stuff!

  • @jeremymullins1294
    @jeremymullins1294 Рік тому +2

    second dude has straight lost his mind! haha.

  • @alittlebitofeverything6547
    @alittlebitofeverything6547 Рік тому +2

    since I've been loving you is amazing
    lemon song also great

  • @jonrhythm3686
    @jonrhythm3686 Рік тому

    Not alot of bad Zeppelin songs for me to choose from so mine turns out to be an ep:
    1. The Crunge
    2. Black Dog
    3. You Shook Me
    4. Hot Dog
    5. I Can't Quit You Baby

  • @ashfromlondon7008
    @ashfromlondon7008 Рік тому

    I'm guessing that tracks off 'Coda' didn't qualify...??
    The first time I heard 'Hot dog' was when they played it live in 1979, we're all looking at each going 'wtf'.... Zep are going to the Grand Ole Opry...haha!

  • @floydshambles
    @floydshambles Рік тому +1

    there was a worst of the jefferson airplane

  • @themindseyecmh
    @themindseyecmh Рік тому +4

    You guys hit on alot of the songs I'd pick, however I'm one of the few people that actually likes Hot Dog lol
    So here would be my picks, in gonna call it
    Led Zeppelin: Bore
    Side One:
    1. Since I've Been Loving You
    2. The Lemon Song
    3. Nobody's Fault But Mine
    4. Living Loving Maid
    5. The Crunge
    Side Two:
    1. Candy Store Rock
    2. For Your Life
    3. Your Time Is Gonna Come
    4. Tea For One
    5. Hats Off To (Roy) Harper
    Some of these songs I do in fact like but these are my least favorites... and it's very Presence heavy lol

    • @leepassmore7032
      @leepassmore7032 Рік тому +2

      You lose all credibility by putting SInce I've Been Loving You on your album, much less as the lead track.

    • @tommyaddison6539
      @tommyaddison6539 Рік тому

      I never knew how disliked SIBLY is by so many fans....it’s always been a masterpiece to me. And Tea for One is a GREAT track

    • @leepassmore7032
      @leepassmore7032 Рік тому +1

      @@tommyaddison6539 Don't share your enthusiasm for Tea for One. It's a cheap knockoff of SIBLY, which I think is one of Zep's 5 or 6 greatest songs at worst.

    • @tommyaddison6539
      @tommyaddison6539 Рік тому

      @@leepassmore7032 Fair enough. I like the vibe of it and the vocals about the isolation Plant was feeling at the time.

    • @kimberlywalker3970
      @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому +1

      Nobody's Fault But Mine? Really?! It's one of my favorite Zeppelin songs! I like it far better than Achilles Last Stand!

  • @3sidesofeve711
    @3sidesofeve711 Рік тому +1

    Roy Harper sang on pink floyd

  • @mkendra29
    @mkendra29 Рік тому

    1) Don't care for the drum solo mash-up on the 1990 box set. Not that Bonzo's drum solos are bad at all, but there are oodles of bootlegs out there with much better ones. 2) and 3) I don't think the '90's discoveries "Baby Come On Home" from the second box set and "The Girl I Love" from the BBC Sessions add anything. (The one post-Coda gem is "Traveling Riverside Blues" though which is absolutely a top 20 Zep song for me.) And the fourth and fifth songs on my bad side would be "Hot Dog" and "The Crunge" which they clearly didn't take seriously and never played live.

  • @lgbass
    @lgbass Рік тому

    Can't argue much here. Although I do love the early blues influence. Having said that, I was shocked when Since I've Been Loving You came up. LOL. I would swap that with Black Mountain Side. Dreadful!

  • @julianhignell8452
    @julianhignell8452 Рік тому

    Pretty much agree with both sides. I think SIBLY feels out of place on LZ III, which along with PG is my favourite album, the flaws are that song and Hats Off…should’ve left those off added something from PG and Coda that was recorded at the time. They had much better options for what was essentially their folk record.

  • @dangaucher2245
    @dangaucher2245 Рік тому

    Martin would you rather hear Tea for Two or Tea for One?

  • @Almeida5
    @Almeida5 Рік тому

    I love "Your Time Is Gonna Come", otherwise I have no problem with this list!

  • @3sidesofeve711
    @3sidesofeve711 Рік тому +2

    Presence is the worst they did. Achillies is 7 minutes too long and drags on to much and too much blues the rest of the album.

  • @amycollins8832
    @amycollins8832 11 місяців тому

    I suggested "Hot Dog" once and got crucified, LOL. Mind you its a fun Robert Plant rockabilly tune that would have been great for one of his solo albums, but its not classic LZ.

  • @jeffg.dempsey5753
    @jeffg.dempsey5753 Рік тому

    A contrarian view to the Contrarians, Presence kicks mighty ASS!!! 🤪

  • @mikewestfall827
    @mikewestfall827 Рік тому

    I was liking the choices on this album until Martin chose my favorite Zeppelin song, "Since I've Been Loving You."
    I'll give him a pass because it's the first time in this series he actually picked my favorite song from the band chosen for this.

  • @tomy8339
    @tomy8339 10 місяців тому

    Lol, I don't know what to say:
    1st guy : 👍
    2nd guy: 🥴
    Who places, 'Since I've been loving you' and ' Your time is gonna come' as Zeppelin's worst songs?

  • @marclahn7072
    @marclahn7072 Рік тому +1

    First off, I LOVE "The Crunge"!
    This argument always baffles me. And look, I'm a longstanding white boy, but I gotta say, you white boys just don't get it. Try to work some badass analog 60s/70s funk into your lives. Get up and move! Feel it in your bones-ah!! Heh.
    Seriously, I think there's a bit too much of this "Well, Louder Sound says.." and whoever's list of worst whatever says.
    If you were there at the time, you say it yourself. And that's your guide. But I get it with age and needing to reference that stuff. maybe you would possibly feel it and know it better otherwise. But it's cool and everyone's got their opinion. Just make sure it's truly yours and not some list maker's.
    Obviously, "The Crunge" is a nod to James Brown and his classic "Fellas, can ya take me to the bridge?"
    It's always been a fantastic, "cool, let's do this" song to me (as is "Royal Orleans," from Presence for similar reasons)
    Gotta say, I'm flat out "shocked" that D'YER MAK'ER is not on this Worst Of album. Now.... here ya go. Talk about a song that makes me feel like I need a DRAMAMINE. Sheesh...
    Of the other songs on this LP that you guys have made up, I should say that I like "SOUTH BOUND SUAREZ" quite a bit (interesting and playful good track to me...liked it from the jump in '79) and "THE LEMON SONG," for me, is an excellent below-the-belt grinder with a brilliant, more unique riff from Jimmy, and fantastic bass lines from JPJ. If you're gonna write a song about sex, this is the way to do it. The uniqueness of the riff (notcher standard blues chords), almost drives home the more salacious aspects of this number on its own.
    I also do like "HOTS ON FOR NOWHERE" (works for me) It's got that throwaway quality, I grant you that, but it's frivolous nature, I think, makes it quite enjoyable.
    And I'll always adore Jimmy's lazy drunken riff of FOR YOUR LIFE (although, okay, I get it "as a song"), but maybe that's the point.
    Also, I might not have appreciated it as a kid (I would've more than likely said the same things as Martin...then), but "Your Time Is Gonna Come" (although yes, it does have a certain 60's vibe...did come out in the 60s though, right?), has become more of a classic to me.
    Anyway, I suppose the rest of it is understandable. HOTRH is just kind of a mess, authentically so or not...its just "mush-mouth" stuff.
    "HOT DOG" has always been low hanging fruit. * I will say this though, Martin: Jimmy's "stutter" riff is the one thing I really LIKE about that song. To me, it puts the humor into it. And I'm thinking he could've been doing that more intentionally for that effect.
    Finally, I'm SO with MARTIN about *Side One of LZIII* And I would easily call that my "all time favorite Led Zeppelin album side"....if not for "Since You've Been Gone". That song just started to bore the shit out of me after a while. You know, I liked JP's great blues soloing as a young aspiring player, but man, the 'song itself' just became a slog.
    Other than that though, SIDE ONE of Led Zeppelin III is just flat out STELLAR, and continues to remain fresh and uniquely exciting to this day!
    Immigrant Song
    Friends
    Celebration Day
    Out On The Tiles
    BRILLIANT!!
    If I could only move "That's the Way" or "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" into SYBG's place, it might be my favorite album side of all time! - Right up there with side 1's of "Aladdin Sane" and "Highway To Hell"

    *I'm not going to impose on G-Pole. That's perfect as a side starter for 2.

  • @tigotigoify
    @tigotigoify Рік тому

    Side A
    I can't quit you baby
    Hats off to (Roy)Harper
    Four sticks
    The crunge
    Candy store rock
    Side B
    For your life
    Tea for one
    South bound saurez
    Carouselambra
    I'm gonna crawl

    • @kimberlywalker3970
      @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому +1

      I disagree w/Four Sticks, For Your Life and you listed half of ITTOD. Where's Hot Dog?! That song sucks!!!

    • @tigotigoify
      @tigotigoify Рік тому

      @@kimberlywalker3970 its my list , make yours🥱

    • @kimberlywalker3970
      @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому

      @@tigotigoify I did just like you!!! And if you don't like the criticism, don't post it!! And I'll give my opinion on whatever whenever I want. I disagree it w/what you said so deal it like a grownup!!

    • @tigotigoify
      @tigotigoify Рік тому

      @@kimberlywalker3970 you put dancing days on your list, lol kkk, unforgivable

    • @kimberlywalker3970
      @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому

      @@tigotigoify I feel the same about Four Sticks and Carouselabmbra so were even!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @tommyaddison6539
    @tommyaddison6539 Рік тому +1

    Disagree with most of this, but the only pick I flat out disagree with is SIBLY. I love Your Time Is Gonna Come, but I get Martins point

    • @AbbeyRoadkill1
      @AbbeyRoadkill1 Рік тому +1

      I'm willing to bet you can count on one hand the number of people on planet Earth who think "Since I've Been Loving You" is one of the worst Led Zeppelin songs.

  • @verribarry
    @verribarry Рік тому

    I'm drawing a blank.

  • @winstonsyme5899
    @winstonsyme5899 Рік тому +3

    Led Zeppelin’s ‘bad’ songs have more musical value than most other bands better songs. If you learn the guitar or drums from Zeppelin’s bad songs you will be a better musician than the same old songs from most other bands. Just the description of the music in the bad songs listed here are more diverse and interesting than most other bands. Since I’ve been loving you is a masterpiece. Better than anything Aerosmith ever did.

  • @rtm8090
    @rtm8090 Рік тому

    No Germaker?

  • @grimtraveller7923
    @grimtraveller7923 Рік тому

    I loved Led Zeppelin before I ever heard them, funny as that sounds. The way they had built up in my mind by the end of 1979, out there in Nigeria, I would have been amazed if I'd disliked their music. The disappointment would have registered across West Africa ! And even though the debut {which I had been _desperate_ to hear, some 11 months before I actually did} and "Presence" were the last ones I did hear {by October 1980} and neither impressed me initially {I love 'em both now}, Zeppelin are not a flawless band. There were songs all along the way that I either flat-out disliked or was kind of "meh" about. I am not a fan of the live album "The Song Remains the same." With the exception of the brilliant "Poor Tom" {why, oh why was this not included on Zep III or "Graffiti" ?} I think "Coda" is flat beer.
    So my "Worst of" would be called "Led Zeppelin Poo" and the cover would the same as the second album but instead of the zeppelin would be a huge turd and the band would be dressed in those protective hazmat suits !
    It wouldn't be a vinyl record, it would be a CD with these tracks:
    Walter's Walk
    I Can't Quit You Babe {debut}
    Wearing and Tearing
    Hats off to Harper {III}
    Bonzo's Montreux
    The Lemon Song {II}
    Darlene
    Going to California {IV}
    Ozone Baby
    D'yer Mak'er ? {HOH}
    Candy Store Rock {Presence}
    I'm Gonna Crawl {ITTOD}
    I have spent many years laughing when "D'yer Mak'er" is described as reggae. It really isn't. and while I applaud the band for trying it out, it's an awful song. English musicins have an affinity with early reggae that many Americans, Canadians and Australians have just never got and while there is the flavouring of reggae {among other things} in the song, it is laughable to many Black people to describe it as reggae. Even Jimmy Page wouldn't go that far !
    As for "Candy Sore Rock", believe it or not, it has more of an affinity with "D'yer Mak'er" than many have ever acknowledged. But it's still beyond garbage. I wouldn't piss on that song if it was on fire. 🔥
    I barely tolerated "I can't quit you Babe" for 15 years and then I just came clean and admitted that I did not like the song and was no more going to torture myself. I haven't heard it since the early years of this century. My life has been wonderful !
    And I never really liked "I'm gonna crawl." In through the out door was only the 3rd Zeppelin album I heard so I didn't have all the baggage to consider and I could gauge the album purely on the songs and whether I liked them. And although it's the least good of the original run {not including Coda}, I dig the album and rate it highly. But "I'm gonna crawl" was always a song that was an anti-climax, where my thoughts would wander.
    I must stress that I like Hats off to Harper, The Lemon Song and Going To California. I just regard them as among Zeppelin's weaker material. I'm almost tempted to include "Trampled Underfoot" and "Achilles' Last Stand" to "Led Zeppelin Poo" as they are songs that I like but only just. Also, I didn't want some Zep diehards to discover my ip address and make it easy for me to die !! 😂

  • @leswadley6792
    @leswadley6792 Рік тому +1

    Sweet; totally dig everything you guys do but you two together is definitely my favorite! I feel sometimes there is to many people voicing their opinion! Sorry just my two cents☺️!

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  Рік тому +1

      thank you for the kind comment!

    • @grimtraveller7923
      @grimtraveller7923 Рік тому

      @Les Wadley
      " I feel sometimes there is to many people voicing their opinion! "
      Isn't that what's supposed to happen in the comments ?

    • @leswadley6792
      @leswadley6792 Рік тому

      @@grimtraveller7923 Not in the comments, on the shows!

    • @grimtraveller7923
      @grimtraveller7923 Рік тому +1

      @@leswadley6792 Fair enough. But isn't that the point of the shows ? A few guys voice their opinion on a topic we watchers have feelings about. Then we make comments afterwards.

    • @leswadley6792
      @leswadley6792 Рік тому

      @@grimtraveller7923 Apples and oranges 🤷🏻‍♂️☺️! To each their own! ☺️

  • @theclassicrockjunkie7353
    @theclassicrockjunkie7353 Рік тому

    Only one bad song for me from my all time favorite band Led Zeppelin and that is Hats Off To (Roy) Harper.

  • @matthewashman1406
    @matthewashman1406 Рік тому +1

    Since I've been loving you ?

  • @briandunlap8534
    @briandunlap8534 Рік тому +1

    seems like coda material should've made this list

  • @kimberlywalker3970
    @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому

    I love Led Zeppelin and they're my 2nd favorite band but, like most bands, they have clunkers too:
    SIDE ONE:
    1. Hot Dog (By far the dumbest, most annoying Zeppelin song. I always skip it!!)
    2. The Crunge (I call it The Cringe! The only reason I hate this less than Hot Dog is because it's so bad that it's almost good. I agree w/whoever said that Robert's voice is the problem. The musicianship isn't bad, but they've done better. Trampled Under Foot is a far superior funk song!)
    3. Hats Off to Roy Harper (I can't decipher that mess even if I tried!! It should've been on the B-Side of Immigrant Song instead of Hey, Hey, What Can I Do? That and Immigrant Song would give me two good reasons to listen to Led Zeppelin III.)
    4. Thank You (I know Robert Plant wrote this for his wife, Maureen. He also wrote What Is And What Should Never Be for his sister-in-law and ex-girlfriend, Shirley. I think Shirley got the better end of that deal!)
    5. Candy Store Rock (It's mildly entertaining but I don't listen to Zeppelin to be mildly entertained!)
    SIDE TWO:
    1. Moby Dick (Yes, John Bonham is a good drummer but, as the song drags on, I get bored!)
    2. Dancing Days (This song has two things going for it: The guitar riff and it comes after one of the worst Zeppelin songs ever!!)
    3. Living Loving Maid (I heard Jimmy Page hates this song and I don't blame him. It's unremarkable.)
    4. Royal Orleans (I forget it after I hear it.)
    5. Hots on for Nowhere (See Royal Orleans.)

    • @AbbeyRoadkill1
      @AbbeyRoadkill1 Рік тому +1

      I completely disagree with "Dancing Days." I played it for years in a cover band and always enjoyed it- and it was always a crowd pleaser. Page's guitar parts are interesting and not easy to execute.

    • @kimberlywalker3970
      @kimberlywalker3970 Рік тому

      @@AbbeyRoadkill1 No, I agree w/the guitar parts. It's the only part of the song I like. Otherwise, I think it's a bit silly. I don't hate it but, out of all the Zeppelin songs recorded, it would go at the bottom for me.

    • @tigotigoify
      @tigotigoify Рік тому

      Put dancing days is unforgivable😓

  • @markthompson7727
    @markthompson7727 Рік тому

    The “Worst” of the Jefferson Airplane

  • @grimtraveller7923
    @grimtraveller7923 Рік тому

    On Marco's side, I agree with "Candy store rock." I personally think that this is by far the worst song in the Zeppelin catalog. It's a horrendously hopeless piece of mouldy shit and I personally hope I never hear it again. If I were a spy captured by the enemy, I'd be easily broken if they put me in a room and made me listen to this over and over. I'd tell them anything they wanted to know !
    I also agree with "Hats off to (Roy) Harper" ~ even though I actually like the song ~ just. The irony of the song is that it is {along with the start and end of "Bring it on home"} the most authentic blues Zeppelin ever did. Whereas all their other blues things are really just "White boy aping the blues but moving further out" stints, "Harper" and "Home" are attempts to actually sound just like authentic blues. And they should give one an indication of why the blues never caught on as mass popular music, even when White guys tried to do it.
    I do remember when I first heard "Harper", it occurred to me that lyricallly at least, that's where much of "Custard Pie" came from. So it has _some_ use !
    I can understand "South Bound Saurez" and "Hot Dog" being there, but I really like both songs. They may not be upper echelon Zeppelin, but they're still groovy little crackers. I've long thought that you could easily cross-cut and fuse "Hot Dog" with the Beatles "Act Naturally." At any point of either song, you can dive seemlessly into the other and they fit beautifully.
    "The Crunge" is a great song as far as I'm concerned. By the time Zeppelin got to "Houses of the Holy" their original blueprint {through the previous 2 albums} had reasserted itself and so variety and freshness was once again the order of the day. So "The Crunge" made abundant sense. As a Black Englishman, I appreciate the humour, both musical and lyrical and I think the song was actually pretty advanced for them.

  • @shannonpace9433
    @shannonpace9433 Рік тому

    The Lemon Song and since I've been loving you or

  • @tommyaddison6539
    @tommyaddison6539 Рік тому

    The only Zep song I ever have the urge to skip is Royal Orleans (the lyrics are hilarious though)

  • @dangaucher2245
    @dangaucher2245 Рік тому

    Wow!Achilles wouldn't stand for this album at all

  • @bj4505
    @bj4505 Рік тому

    I'm a big Zep fan.The only song of theirs that I really don't like is D'Yermaker.

  • @dangaucher2245
    @dangaucher2245 Рік тому

    You guys never mentioned that The Crunge is a James Brown knock-off that sounds like shit's and giggles time

  • @donyoung7874
    @donyoung7874 Рік тому

    I never got Hat's Off To Roy Harper. After hearing his music, none of it sounds like that mess.

  • @claudiaandsis1734
    @claudiaandsis1734 Рік тому

    Also thinking Tle Lemon Song; the innuendo is over the top! Battle of Evermore is annoying and doesn’t go anywhere

  • @Leo-ci9kc
    @Leo-ci9kc Рік тому

    The worst Zeppelin songs are Hats off to Roy Harper and Hot Dog. I must be in the minority but I never minded The Crunge and Dyer Maker.
    I love Since I've been loving you.
    And Jefferson Airplane released an album called The Worst of JA

  • @jameshunter7303
    @jameshunter7303 Рік тому +1

    Oh dear Martin. I guess you’ve called yourself a “contrarian” for a reason

  • @brobonoedge
    @brobonoedge Рік тому

    Side one just about perfect, side two you're stretching. Maybe with LZ it should only be an EP. Impossible task anyway as they are only competing with themselves - no band can touch them. I've had my LZ ranking up for a while now: ua-cam.com/play/PLBb7xnL3OmJOwCXVyxkoQTU9IN3BxdYI1.html

  • @eddieschneider8470
    @eddieschneider8470 Рік тому

    915 spot on terrible

  • @jjvladimir6070
    @jjvladimir6070 Рік тому

    Zeppelin already built a bad album. It's called Coda.

  • @ledzeplover58
    @ledzeplover58 Рік тому

    The Crunge by leaps and bounds. Awkward and grating. I always thought they spelled it wrong.

  • @carl-johanfougstedt199
    @carl-johanfougstedt199 Рік тому

    D´Yer and Maker is in my opinion the worst Led Zeppelin song.

  • @atlasking6110
    @atlasking6110 Рік тому

    "You Shook Me" was a turgid slog when The Jeff Beck Group did it. Then LZ ripped it off but made it even longer of a turgid slog. "Hot Dog" is a disgrace. "The Crunge" and "Hats Off to Harper" are unlistenable. "Fool in the Rain" and "Southbound Suarez" - horrid crap that did not belong on a Zep album. "The Lemon Song" is embarassing and awful. "You're Time is Gonna Come" is boring AF. "Candy Store Rock" is the definition of filler. "Trampled Underfoot" one mediocre riff that goes on and on and on. "D'yer Maker" annoying AF. Man, they did have a lot of bad tunes!

  • @ahuse1
    @ahuse1 Рік тому +1

    Martin is always whack. whatever.