Belgium Under German Occupation During WW1 I THE GREAT WAR On The Road

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    Indy talks to Peter Verplancke about Belgium during World War 1, in particular the German occupation policies.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 274

  • @periodicpenguin9767
    @periodicpenguin9767 5 років тому +317

    “Don’t quote me on that.” -Indy

  • @MrCordycep
    @MrCordycep 5 років тому +245

    The tiny piece of Belgium that was unoccupied... reminds me of Asterix and Obelix. 😄

  • @Nakrin27
    @Nakrin27 5 років тому +330

    Interesting fact...future U.S. President Herbert Hoover formed the Commission for Relief in Belgium, which shipped millions of tons of vital food supplies to prevent German-occupied Belgium from national starvation during World War I. Unlike his reputation in American history (especially during the Great Depression), many Belgians consider Hoover a national savior.

    • @andrewschuh4790
      @andrewschuh4790 5 років тому +51

      Nakrin27 At his presidential library in West Branch Iowa theres a statue of the Egyptian godess Isis donated by the people of Belgium for his relief efforts during the war, which I found very cool.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 5 років тому +20

      @Nakrin27 He also saved so many from starvation in Russia as well. Shame he couldn't be bothered to help his fellow desperate Americans though. I guess handouts are Un-American.

    • @diarradunlap9337
      @diarradunlap9337 5 років тому +10

      Frankly, I think Hoover got shafted.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 5 років тому +21

      @Diarra Dunlap Well Hoover earned that shaft. By opposed direct federal relief efforts, he ensured the most desperate Americans suffered and his violent assault against the WWI veterans that were in dire need of relief earned his reputation. There's a bitter irony that he seemed to be more compassionate to the citizens of other nations then his own countrymen. Somehow starving Soviets got bread while starving WWI vets got a bayonet and a dose of tear gas.

    • @JanuszKrysztofiak
      @JanuszKrysztofiak 5 років тому +17

      Herbert Hoover is also fondly remembered in Poland for his help for Polish children in 1918-1921 and the UNRRA relief in 1945.

  • @codenaam49
    @codenaam49 5 років тому +104

    About that language difference... My great grandfather fought for the Belgian army in WW1, and as a matter of fact, in and near Diksmuide. He was made corporal for the sole reason his second language, besides Dutch (Flemish) was French. That way, he could translate the French commands of the officers for the Flemish soldiers. Great episode, thank you Indy and team!

    • @stanmarche7971
      @stanmarche7971 5 років тому +20

      @Rodycaz I'm Belgian, and I would say that some divisions exist ...
      Every time I go to Flanders, I have no problem with the Flemish. We usually get on well. We both try to use the language of the other and, in last resources, we use English as lingua franca. I really don't feel a division on the people level.
      But on the political level, everything is different: federal government gives more and more powers to the regions, which leads to different policies between north and south. And when you see that the most popular party in Flanders is the NVA, a nationalist separatist party, you can imagine that sometimes, tensions can arise.
      Hopefully, we Belgians won't forget that our national motto is "Union makes strength". It is not in our interests to see a split between Flanders and Walloonia, whatever the separatists might say 🙂 After all, the main difference between Flemish and Walloons is the language. When you get over it, we are not that different on many levels 😉

    • @codenaam49
      @codenaam49 5 років тому +8

      I'm from the Flemish part of Belgium, and I have to say that most of the time, my French comes in real handy if I have to talk to someone from Wallonia. In my experience, I haven't met that much French-speaking people that know Dutch very well. Of course this is not to be generalized. But I believe the problem there, lies in the education difference between the 2. In Flanders we have 8 years of obligatory French classes, before we finish secondary school. If I'm not mistaken, in Wallonia it's optional. :) Now what concerns the political split. In my opinion it just has to be there. As we comment here underneath a video about WW1, we can say that because of certain events then, you can't deny the fact that Flemish people were not placed on the same social level as French-speakers. So it was inevitable that the Flemish would want more independance. Well that has grown over a long time to what we have now, and it is what we want. But if you just have a look at it, I think Flanders as well as Wallonia is doing very well now, each mostly doing what they want separately, but still being in one country. :)

    • @codenaam49
      @codenaam49 5 років тому +2

      tiestu Well I just don't think it is an obvious choice of the Walloon government(s) to give the students that choice. The second language of your country is somewhat a basis for us, and in my opinion, it should be the same for you. That's how respect for one another is created. And as Brussels, a city where there are no more than 10% Dutch-speakers, I find the statement of "the Flemings took our jobs..." somewhat hard to believe. :)

    • @lorenzodocx4021
      @lorenzodocx4021 5 років тому +3

      NVA is the most popular because it actually tries to represent a option to vote for right leaning people that don't want to vote for either socialist parties or extreem right parties.

    • @Real_Claudy_Focan
      @Real_Claudy_Focan 5 років тому

      it's flemish propaganda ! This AVV-VVK tower is a mausoleum for flemish independentists !

  • @polyglot8
    @polyglot8 2 роки тому +14

    There's an old half-timbered house in downtown Leuven (Louvain) that was the only one in the city never entered by the Germans because they flew a big American flag from the window, even though the occupants ties to America were a bit distant. People in town still call it "The American House".

  • @phil9265
    @phil9265 5 років тому +11

    My great Uncle fought during the First World War in the Belgium Army .I can't recall where but I do know that he was injured in a gas attack and for the rest of his life he had to be near a window to breathe.

  • @Ashfielder
    @Ashfielder 5 років тому +153

    Not far off that 1 million subscribers actually.

    • @joryjones6808
      @joryjones6808 5 років тому +4

      Toby Wood when he’s almost done with the war.

    • @richardsinger01
      @richardsinger01 5 років тому +12

      Toby Wood they should be there by the time of the spring offensives next year...

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 5 років тому +4

      We must immediately begin universal conscription for every able-bodied young male UA-cam subscribers to like and share this channel!

    • @jamesbunn751
      @jamesbunn751 5 років тому +5

      48 days to get to 1 million subs. I commit my last 2 secondary channels to this fight. Come on boys - one last effort to win for The Great War.

    • @onardico
      @onardico 5 років тому

      this means that this channel will be about second war 80 years ago in the next year. only have to a little adjust in the name

  • @JustSomeCanuck
    @JustSomeCanuck 5 років тому +13

    "They started by making their tombstones in Dutch" - cut to a tombstone that reads "Here lies Joe English"...

  • @ihmejakki2731
    @ihmejakki2731 5 років тому +40

    "Thousands of Belgians were killed by German electric fences" - Read all about Indy Neidell's latest quote!

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 5 років тому +5

      @wood1155
      I actually tried doing that many years ago. I was standing in a wet field behind some bushes to take a wizz. Hidden behind the bushes was an electric fence. Talk about being surprised!

    • @robertneven7563
      @robertneven7563 4 роки тому

      Ihme Jakki, whit the help off the Dutch gouvernement

  • @hildoschutte6200
    @hildoschutte6200 5 років тому +17

    A short reference was made to the "... thousands of Belgians killed by the electric fence...". Unfortunately, one of the facts not mentioned in this episode is the fact that during the Great War around one million Belgians sought refuge in The Netherlands, which had a population of about 6.5 million at the time. I think this puts the present-day discussion about granting asylum for refugees in quite an interesting perspective... .

    • @xyz6170
      @xyz6170 5 років тому +16

      Yes. Those refugees came from the neighboring country, modern asylum seekers venture across countries and continents until they find a place with extensive social welfare (except the actual refugees who still move to nearby countries).

    • @ericcarlson3746
      @ericcarlson3746 5 років тому

      I wonder if there is any "remembrance" / monument / event to day where Belgium remembers the kind acts of these gentle Dutch

    • @hildoschutte6200
      @hildoschutte6200 5 років тому +2

      In 1916, already during the war, in the town of Amersfoort, work was started by interned Belgian soldiers on what later turned out to be the largest monument ever built in The Netherlands in appreciation to the Dutch for their hospitality. There's quite a history about this monument and due to political strifes between the two countries after the war, it was only officially inaugurated by the Dutch Queen and Belgian King in 1938 (!) Smaller monuments commemorating local camps can be found in Ede, Bakhuizen, as well as an inscription on the former town hall of Den Bosch.

    • @stefa4013
      @stefa4013 5 років тому +1

      These Belgium refugees spoke the Dutch language and had a very similar culture which made integration far easier than it is today

  • @brianoreilly3001
    @brianoreilly3001 5 років тому +29

    Will Indy talk about the Belgium Congo during WW1 how Congo supported Mainland Belgium and the African theater of the War?

  • @tullin2531
    @tullin2531 5 років тому +21

    I very much like this video of indy and Peter and when i met both of you it was alot of fun and now seeing this makes me even prouder to have been there

  • @louisdonaghy9820
    @louisdonaghy9820 5 років тому +2

    I absolutely love your youtube channel. I think people really don't appreciate how all this information about the first world war could be lost during this generation. So i thank you for sharing this channel with us all so we can continue to tell the tales of the first world war and remember those who fought. on every front, for every nation.

  • @user-gn6wz9fe1c
    @user-gn6wz9fe1c 5 років тому +1

    such a interesting video discussing topics typically overlooked, the quality of content from this channel is very impressing .

  • @gilbertavalos6835
    @gilbertavalos6835 5 років тому

    Awesome! Thanks guys!

  • @lps2013
    @lps2013 5 років тому

    Great video as always

  • @arozes8324
    @arozes8324 5 років тому +1

    Great Video!

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 5 років тому +22

    Great video

  • @erikthomsen4768
    @erikthomsen4768 5 років тому +12

    Could you do a video about how Prussian identity was changed during and after the First World War?

  • @Dinguspool
    @Dinguspool 5 років тому +2

    Oh gawd, Diksmuide. Lived near it for a few years. Great WW1 history, the tower is worth a visit. But that's all the town has going for it these days.
    Great channel! You got yourself a new sub!

  • @siestatime4638
    @siestatime4638 5 років тому +23

    That separation and discussion continues in Belgium to this day.

    • @carlcassidy185
      @carlcassidy185 5 років тому +2

      Belgian Parliament was so 50/50 for while, there was literally no government! don't know what it's like now; not been to see my friend for a while...I'll be surprised if Belgium as-is lasts; it's only really stayed together so long due to the EU being based in Brussels

    • @Rehn98
      @Rehn98 5 років тому

      And it always will until one identity/culture is destroyed

    • @chainehistoire7616
      @chainehistoire7616 3 роки тому

      Still without government

    • @chainehistoire7616
      @chainehistoire7616 3 роки тому

      @Panter Panta I'm sure we will obtain a second world record (the comment I have answer to is visibly not more here)

    • @Eamonn2305
      @Eamonn2305 3 роки тому

      @Panter Panta nothing lucky about it to be honest.

  • @IrishPartizan
    @IrishPartizan 5 років тому +36

    Hi Indy and the crew! Thanks for doing a great job over the last 4 years. I have looked forward to every Thursday without fail for the past 4 years. You guys rock! BTW, how long will this channel go on for? Will you guys end it on the 11th November next or will you carry it into 1919 to cover the Treaty of Versailles, Trianon etc and subsequent knock-on events? I will miss you guys.

    • @Boutneus12
      @Boutneus12 5 років тому +5

      SPOILERALERT! Lol

    • @Tsumami__
      @Tsumami__ 5 років тому +5

      Partizan they may cover post armistice on the other channel where they do “in between” the two wars

    • @IrishPartizan
      @IrishPartizan 5 років тому +1

      And what is the name of that channel?

    • @brutalnyas5639
      @brutalnyas5639 5 років тому +3

      There is world war 2 channel already

    • @ABPHistory
      @ABPHistory 5 років тому +2

      Partizan inbetween 2 wars

  • @Messiah114
    @Messiah114 5 років тому

    Interesting as always!

  • @americanexcursions3542
    @americanexcursions3542 5 років тому +3

    You should have asked him about the Baarle-Hertog Belgian enclaves inside neutral Netherlands. What was life like where the borders went back in forth in Baarle-Hertog every few steps?

  • @rubengallardomusic
    @rubengallardomusic 5 років тому +3

    You should do a special about Luxembourg and it's minor but still important significance in ww1

  • @TonyBongo869
    @TonyBongo869 Рік тому +1

    In late 1918, during the last 100 days, on the pursuit to Mons, Canadian troops were surprised that Belgian towns were in better shape than those across the border in France. The reason? Germany planned to annex parts of Belgium into their empire so they were careful to not damage the buildings or upset the occupants too much.

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 5 років тому +19

    I wish all wars were parsed into weekly installments. Then, maybe, we could all stay home until the peace treaty is signed. My personal idea is to hold a giant boxing match between our country and "theirs". Have both presidents duke it out in the middle of the squared circle for the heavyweight nation of the worrrrrld! Then we could sell tickets. I bet a lot of folks would buy them . . .distribute the money to the poor in both nations and have a holiday . . instead of a senseless blood bath.

    • @ruben.1111
      @ruben.1111 5 років тому +2

      That first part sounded like it was in all quiet on the western front

  • @GruntTV1776
    @GruntTV1776 5 років тому

    Nice video

  • @hoangkimviet8545
    @hoangkimviet8545 5 років тому +40

    It sounds like Belgium was the bridge for the German and French attacks to each other in world wars :-0

    • @Redfield199
      @Redfield199 5 років тому +4

      It was. As far as I know, Belgium was neutral in WW1. So they allowed both Germany and France to enter their country. But I could be wrong about that.

    • @hoangkimviet8545
      @hoangkimviet8545 5 років тому +1

      @@Redfield199 At least, with Switzerland, Belgium became the safetest countries in the world wars. At least in Europe :-0

    • @driesgelis
      @driesgelis 5 років тому +35

      No they didn't, they were neutral so they refused German troops entering their country to get to France so Germany declared war on Belgium.

    • @hoangkimviet8545
      @hoangkimviet8545 5 років тому +1

      @@driesgelis Hmm..... And are the Belgians more afraid of Germans than French? :-0

    • @thebenis3157
      @thebenis3157 5 років тому +5

      Tyrannosaurus Rex Nope, actually Germany invaded Belgium because they didn't let German troops move through their territory

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 роки тому

    Interesting to know what was going on in Belgium during WWI. I was expecting Belgium resistance to be more violent than what I heard in this video. But hey this was a pleasant surprise. I liked this video. Always nice to know more about rarely touched upon subjects. Nice job.

  • @tbc168
    @tbc168 3 роки тому

    I went on a day long guided tour Brussels to Ypres, we stopped here on the way. Didnt go into the museum though. There is a pile of old shells near the bridge

  • @nathannguyen1456
    @nathannguyen1456 5 років тому +1

    Almost 1 million sub! But it's funny that you currently have 911l subs :D

  • @archdornan3339
    @archdornan3339 5 років тому

    Very cool :)

  • @Brendissimo1
    @Brendissimo1 5 років тому

    Speaking of WW1 museums in Belgium, the "In Flanders Fields Museum" in Ypres is great.

  • @henriashurst-pitkanen8735
    @henriashurst-pitkanen8735 3 роки тому +1

    I was about to make breakfast in my kitchen and I was thinking "I wonder what Belgium was like during WWI. I hope The Great War have a video on it", and here we are.

  • @gss8532
    @gss8532 5 років тому +7

    You should continue te Channel after This series, but talking about another war

    • @timmmahhhh
      @timmmahhhh 5 років тому

      There were certainly many effects of the war that affected the world. The show could keep going by addressing those.

    • @Mattanja1992
      @Mattanja1992 5 років тому +8

      They started with World War II on another channel already. Can`t advertise it here though due to contract or different producer....

  • @johnwilkins11
    @johnwilkins11 5 років тому

    Will you keep on making videos on this channel after the 11th November? (I know there's the other channels but I have more interest in WW1 than anything)

  • @godji9396
    @godji9396 5 років тому +33

    Last time I was this early Franc Ferdinand got killed

  • @hlynnkeith9334
    @hlynnkeith9334 5 років тому +2

    I would like to hear more about Beglians fighting in the Great War.

  • @91jvdb
    @91jvdb 5 років тому +1

    Looking forward to the week of October 25-26th when my great grand parents were liberated by the Belgian Army in Ursel and Aalter, Belgium

  • @mareksicinski3726
    @mareksicinski3726 2 роки тому

    6:54 well also gaining suport

  • @ragucav
    @ragucav 5 років тому +1

    FIRST.......LOVE THE SHOW HAVE WATCHED EVERY EPISODE

  • @elliotnordling2835
    @elliotnordling2835 5 років тому

    Finally bramisimo!

  • @W-SS
    @W-SS 5 років тому

    Indy, where’s the workout video? I’m hoping you’re still working on it

  • @darkgreendemocracy
    @darkgreendemocracy 5 років тому

    (Baarle-Hertog an enclave in holland was also not occupied. Belgium had a radiotower in the enclave. The radiotower send messages from the resistance to the governement in not occupied Belgium or to London)

  • @cillian1408
    @cillian1408 5 років тому +3

    Question for ott what role did film and photography play for military application during the war greetings from Ireland and give indy a raise

  • @e.c.9468
    @e.c.9468 5 років тому

    I can confirm that my ancestor, a belgian soldier sent some letters to his family by Holland.

  • @johnferguson7235
    @johnferguson7235 5 років тому +25

    You missed a chance here to provide more information about what life was like for the average citizen in occupied Belgium. This episode was more than a little thin.

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  5 років тому +12

      excuse us our expert for now being available the whole day

    • @ericcarlson3746
      @ericcarlson3746 5 років тому +1

      what life was like? severe food shortages. King Alfonso XIII and Spain and other neutrals tried to help; during US neutrality Herbert Hoover tried to help.....

    • @Charlie-up8hy
      @Charlie-up8hy 5 років тому

      Many examples of restrictions: you had to have paperwork for everything, to get food, to rent a bike for a day, even for a pinch of salt, gathering enough food to survive took an entires day work(American soup kitchens saved many people. Forced labour in Germany, they could just send you away. When the Germans entered a town they would cut the telephone lines so there was no outside communication, no post. All men between adult men (and even younger I believe?) had to register daily or near daily to keep watch and prevent them from escaping to fight.

  • @tf2664
    @tf2664 5 років тому +30

    Who is that one dislike

  • @bert4838
    @bert4838 4 роки тому

    Hey I live very close in Veurne

  • @rtsgod
    @rtsgod 5 років тому +1

    What about unoccupied Belgium? What about after the war for the people that got education in the German founded dutch speaking universities, was there repercussions for them as collaborators? Thx!

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq 5 років тому +7

    Was there a Belgium resistance? Was it large or was it just small groups causing trouble.

    • @the12th68
      @the12th68 5 років тому +1

      Small groups causing trouble i think

    • @ToonVandeputte
      @ToonVandeputte 5 років тому +2

      There was, but rather limited. You should look up "Francs-tireurs"

    • @ericcarlson3746
      @ericcarlson3746 5 років тому

      There are sources around discussing 1914 german paranoia about this which resulted in extreme overreaction a k a the infamous "rape of Belgium"

    • @wisecoonie
      @wisecoonie 5 років тому

      Toon Van de putte the story of the so called francs tireurs (literally translated “unlawful shooters”) was a fable, a right-out lie coined by the invading German army to justify their brutal execution (killing) of hundreds of innocent belgian civilians in numerous towns and cities. In fact, most shooting incidents involving German soldiers were not due to “terrorist activities” but to nervous Germans shooting at their own compatriots, thinking they had enemy contact. These bungling up incidents were covered up by putting the blame on the local defenseless population and seeking revenge on them. The real resistance consisted in carrying letters with secret information about German army positions and troop movements across the Dutch border.

  • @philmbridges
    @philmbridges 5 років тому

    What a great place

  • @filip2165
    @filip2165 5 років тому +2

    Please do video ,, Serbia under Austro-Hungary and Bulgarian occupation " !

  • @floris812
    @floris812 5 років тому +2

    Yes! More Belgian stuff!

  • @rottenradish5459
    @rottenradish5459 5 років тому

    wanna watch all of your videos but where do I start the best??

    • @hjalmar4565
      @hjalmar4565 5 років тому +1

      At the start of the series?

  • @Jekubman
    @Jekubman 5 років тому +4

    I always wondered what happened to Baarle Hertog, a Belgian municipality which is spread out over lots of enclaves surrounded by Dutch territory, during the first World War. Where did their food and water come from and how did they pay for it? How where they governed? Did Baarle Hertog function as a small independent nation like Andora during the war?

    • @hjalmar4565
      @hjalmar4565 5 років тому +1

      Well Baarle Hertog wasn't occupied by Germany for the simple reason the Germans couldn't reach it. Because of this nothing really changed for the people there. The Food and other goods they could import from The Netherlands.

  • @NastyCupid
    @NastyCupid 5 років тому +1

    Very interesting video, I just came from my FLEMISH lessons in the FLEMISH university of Ghent, Thanks Germany! :D

  • @Milos89kv
    @Milos89kv 5 років тому +3

    What happened with Angel and Snake after 1916?

  • @HojozVideos
    @HojozVideos 5 років тому

    I can hear a strong Belgian/Dutch accent. Cool to see that there are also people from these countries in the episodes

    • @Gliese380
      @Gliese380 5 років тому +1

      Flemish accent

    • @wisecoonie
      @wisecoonie 5 років тому

      Yeah, way too strong. Plain farmers accent really.

  • @hetspook666
    @hetspook666 5 років тому +4

    Please call it Netherlands not Holland, holland is just north and south holland combined, Zeeland where a lot of refugees went is not a part of Holland. There was no fence between Holland and Belgium they're not connected at all.

    • @annadelsiena
      @annadelsiena 5 років тому +1

      Stop being so whiny about it. It's just for convenience

    • @koptelevoon
      @koptelevoon 5 років тому

      As a Dutchman i can say that it doesnt matter that much. Sometimes i call it Holland myself and i live in Friesland.

    • @MrSvenovitch
      @MrSvenovitch 5 років тому

      They're - their - there, leer godverdomme het verschil dombo

    • @hetspook666
      @hetspook666 5 років тому

      @@MrSvenovitch wat grappig, een spelling-trol op jijbuis. Luistert naar Samson & Gert en andere studio 100 kindermuziek, wordt je daar op school niet mee gepest? Anyway if you criticize someone's English grammar, do it in English.

    • @koptelevoon
      @koptelevoon 5 років тому

      @@MrSvenovitch jongeh sven rustig man het is maar een spelfout

  • @glm0142
    @glm0142 5 років тому +8

    sorry for being late, I was in school

  • @DBarks38
    @DBarks38 5 років тому

    Finaly!

  • @ericcarlson3746
    @ericcarlson3746 5 років тому

    For the lady viewers Peter Verplancke is best thing to come along since Markus Linke guest starred a couple months ago

  • @yentl8509
    @yentl8509 3 роки тому +1

    🦁

  • @leavemealoneyoutube1707
    @leavemealoneyoutube1707 5 років тому +3

    Hey Indy, can you tell us about what Otto Frank, father of Anne Frank did during the war? I know he fought at The Battle of the Somme and Cambrai and was promoted to First Lieutenant, but do you know anything else about his service? What honors were bestowed upon him? Thank you and your crew for all the word you've done, hope to see more of you after the war is over.

  • @MultiZirkon
    @MultiZirkon 5 років тому +2

    What happend in the German speaking villages and towns of Belgium after the war? Some of these still speak German today, don't they?

    • @hjalmar4565
      @hjalmar4565 5 років тому +1

      Well there were no German speaking villages in Belgium. Those villages were part of Germany before the Great War.

  • @CCRipberger
    @CCRipberger 5 років тому +1

    What was it like for the small area of unoccupied Belgium? Between the Allied naval blockade and the Germans occupying most of the country, being in unoccupied Belgium had to be rough. Where did Belgium's government go? Did it stay in the unoccupied area or go to another Allied country?

    • @Gliese380
      @Gliese380 5 років тому +1

      The Belgian government relocated to the French coastal city of Le Havre.
      King Albert I considered that it was inappropriate for a King to leave his own country and and did not join his government in exile. Instead, he established his heardquarters in the Flemish town of Veurne, just behind the Yser Front, in the last strip of unoccupied Belgian territory.

  • @rogerscott8211
    @rogerscott8211 5 років тому

    i love WW1 history

  • @brendenwymer3976
    @brendenwymer3976 5 років тому

    Question for out of the trenches: I've heard from several sources that the Belgian people liked the German occupation of their country during world war two. And we're bitter towards the allies as they liberated Belgium. What changed between the wars that caused the Belgian people to not like the Germans in world war one, and then go and like the Germans in world war two?

    • @ThePandaJG
      @ThePandaJG 5 років тому

      Belgian here. Like in every country, a few love the invaders and many hate them.
      My grandpa was in the belgian resistance near Bastogne and the father of my grandma hide many pilots and soldiers. I grow up with these stories and that's the same for a lot of people I know.

    • @testimonialicochique
      @testimonialicochique 3 роки тому

      As my grand-grand-grand-father died as forced labour in a german camp during 1st WW near the front, atrocities in general have been terrible for Belgians. However, during 2nd WW, seems that Germans weren't able or not interested anymore to do the same. My grand-grand mother said that german soldier during this time were very polite (maybe they had instructions to change behaviors because of the past) in comparison of US soldiers "that killed cows for fun and behaved like criminals" as she said to me.

  • @austinlong2698
    @austinlong2698 5 років тому

    Hey do any of you at BF1 for Xbox?

  • @BennekeClaes93
    @BennekeClaes93 5 років тому

    Hmm, it has been a long time since I visited the Ysertower in Dixmude, but seeing it is private museum with AVV-VVK on the top, I advise every one to take this video with a pinch of salt. The history of Flemish Activism (collaboration with Germans) is very complex, just as the the history of Flemish nationalism in general.
    The "In Flanders Fields Museum" in Ypre would have been a better visit, I believe.

    • @wisecoonie
      @wisecoonie 5 років тому

      The AVV-VVK monument is a testament to Peace (the inscription means "Everything for Flanders, Flanders for Christ", which primarily refers to the strong Catholic inclination of the Flemish people right after WWI). The tower is NOT a glorification of Flemish nationalism, but after it was bombed by French saboteurs (who got away with their respectless act), the significance of the monument was "recuperated" by Flemish nationalists who started to gather over there (in a rather pompous and slightly ridiculous fashion) for their yearly remembrance day. Please retain the message, "Nooit meer oorlog" ("Never repeat war") and forget the Flemish nationalist "touch", because this was NEVER intended as such by the original builders...

  • @Thefungusjunkyard
    @Thefungusjunkyard 5 років тому

    What will you do when you reach 1 million subs

  • @carlcassidy185
    @carlcassidy185 5 років тому +1

    I've been there, on a WW1 tour; it's not too far from Newport. Interesting site. The tower was blown up in 1946 because all Flemish Belgians were blamed for the actions of a few by the French Belgians. The Pax Gate is made from the remains of the original monument

  • @yperman2025
    @yperman2025 5 років тому

    Even more interesting fact - Flemish beer is the best if the World!

  • @davidsachs4883
    @davidsachs4883 5 років тому

    Odd, machines says two comments, but I read four

    • @davidsachs4883
      @davidsachs4883 5 років тому

      I left the “s” on the end of machine, so I deserved being the brunt of a joke.

  • @hoangucanh8935
    @hoangucanh8935 5 років тому

    Pls do indochina

  • @CrimsonDragon15
    @CrimsonDragon15 5 років тому +11

    Belgians: Almost all of our country was occupied so we couldn't go home.
    Serbia: That is so sad. Please tell me more.

    • @kensenkensen7297
      @kensenkensen7297 5 років тому

      +Noobster
      Noobster..
      Bosnia not Austro Hungary. ..
      But I bet you support the chetniks concentration camps......

    • @johngalvano5895
      @johngalvano5895 5 років тому

      well it's not a suffering competition

    • @MrBigCookieCrumble
      @MrBigCookieCrumble 5 років тому

      @@johngalvano5895 This is WW1, it's ONE BIG suffering competition!

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 5 років тому +2

    I wish you guys talked about some of the positives

  • @johncoffin9354
    @johncoffin9354 4 роки тому

    Clearly, the Walloons did speak French. Is Flemish really the same as Dutch? Or just close?

    • @bv2623
      @bv2623 4 роки тому

      Flemish and Dutch share the same grammar and spelling. Only pronounciation and vocabulary differentiate somewhat. And then you have the many subdialects in Flanders and Netherlands ;)
      Also Walloon isn't exactly French too, it's a dialect. Comparable to Quebecian French.

  • @pontan8084
    @pontan8084 5 років тому

    What about the occupation of the German colonies? What about that?

  • @robertbray8590
    @robertbray8590 5 років тому

    New Zealand could not go home

  • @jorenramboer8428
    @jorenramboer8428 5 років тому

    I live in diksmuide, too bad I did not come across you

  • @trednax_7789
    @trednax_7789 5 років тому +1

    Leve de Vlaemsche Republiek!

  • @Gressethegreat
    @Gressethegreat 5 років тому +1

    AVV-VVK

  • @gandalftheblue6353
    @gandalftheblue6353 11 місяців тому

    more then 100 years have past since the end of the great war, yet Belgium is still divided ,... poor planet ..

    • @closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
      @closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 11 місяців тому

      How so?

    • @gandalftheblue6353
      @gandalftheblue6353 11 місяців тому

      @@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 There are still huge differences ... Economic, social , mentallity , Wallifornia is pro socialism , while Flanders wants to move on and get rid of the huge costs of the south ...many examples ... then there are 6! different governments ... its a disaster for the common people ... corruption has become nr 1 export product ...

  • @RobotRockedYou
    @RobotRockedYou 5 років тому +8

    Allen Voor Vlaanderen, Vlaanderen Voor Kristus!

    • @MrSvenovitch
      @MrSvenovitch 5 років тому

      yes the so called all powerful Christ who lets war happen in the first place. Why doesn't he show himself? I'll give him a piece of my mind.

  • @darkgreendemocracy
    @darkgreendemocracy 5 років тому

    It is very important to know this monument is a Flemish nationalist monument and their is something like a flemish myth with exagerations of actual historical facts. It is true most officers are french speakers but it is a myth that they didn't want to communicate their orders to dutch speakers only in french. This would be very problematic in frontline stituations. The flemish nationalist movement has a lot of his heritage/history formed during the two german occupations during the two world wars. Flemish identity was partialy formed during the two occupations. Being flemish was something else before 1914 and after 1918. Before 1914 it had more to do with the historical county of flanders (2 language county) during the middleages after 1918 it was inspired on the language divide in Belgium. The flemish identity was starting to form with a book from Henri Conscience (a son of french immigrants) published in dutch and very popular called the Lion of Flanders (1838). It is about 1302 and the battle of the Golden Spurs. This book made the flemish "learn" to read dutch. It is after the world wars Belgium started to envolve from a unitary state dominated by the french speaking bourgeoisie into a federal state devided along language borders and the emanicipation of dutch into an official language of Belgium.

  • @ultraranger1286
    @ultraranger1286 5 років тому

    If Belgium could support its army during the 4 years of the war, who is paying for it and how? Foreign creditors?

    • @the12th68
      @the12th68 5 років тому

      UltraRanger America and britain helped with that and probably the Congo helped as Well and Germany paid for it After the war.

    • @Gliese380
      @Gliese380 5 років тому

      Most of the Belgian gold reserves were saved and were transported to England. Belgium was one of the only occupied countries that was able to fund their own troops in exile.

  • @onardico
    @onardico 5 років тому +13

    Belgium was occupied only because of its chocolate

    • @gunterxvoices4101
      @gunterxvoices4101 5 років тому +1

      What?

    • @onardico
      @onardico 5 років тому +3

      well, you should meet the belgian chocolate like the leonidas or corné for example...

    • @ericcarlson3746
      @ericcarlson3746 5 років тому +3

      a nation overrun, thousands shot or starved to death, cities destroyed, and some teen thinks its all a joke

    • @onardico
      @onardico 5 років тому

      yes, funny isn't? millions people dying around the world because a serbian killed a austrian. Tragicomedy

  • @WolfyOfHonor
    @WolfyOfHonor 5 років тому

    so hard to listen to Peter. I know it's hard when English is not your mother tongue, but still.

  • @TheMrPeteChannel
    @TheMrPeteChannel 5 років тому

    5th!

  • @THO-BRO2000
    @THO-BRO2000 5 років тому +6

    Belgians talking English is soooo funny, because the accent is 50% Dutch and 50% French lmao

    • @Bellg
      @Bellg 5 років тому

      It's a little atrocious... but he's trying.

    • @MrSvenovitch
      @MrSvenovitch 5 років тому +1

      It's laughable for a man in his position and not representative for Flanders. He's from West Flanders and due to their bad teachers in kindergarten and grade school silly accents many of them can't even speak Dutch properly.

    • @wisecoonie
      @wisecoonie 5 років тому

      Yes, i do agree. Talking about “tomstones” for instance. Plain silly accent. Unfortunately these museum curators are often not the greatest of academics but ww1 enthusiasts put in place by local politicians. The man has the aura of a boring noob.

    • @ar312no8
      @ar312no8 4 роки тому +1

      Sven waarom denk je dat west-Vlamingen slechte leerkrachten hebben ? En geloof me west-Vlamingen kunnen perfect algemeen Nederlands spreken. Die man is gewoon nerveus en hij is perfect verstaanbaar dus stop met huilen

  • @johngalvano5895
    @johngalvano5895 5 років тому

    Franc-Tireurs!

    • @wisecoonie
      @wisecoonie 5 років тому

      John Galvano nonsense!

  • @sindidun
    @sindidun 5 років тому

    If you don't have balls you have underground newspaper. If you have the balls you have Toplica uprising!

  • @tf2664
    @tf2664 5 років тому +8

    What if the US didn't always have to ruin Germany's chance at glory? like srsly

    • @Duke_of_Lorraine
      @Duke_of_Lorraine 5 років тому +2

      @TF2 Germany should have kept their submarines in leash instead of torpedoing anything that moves.
      The Kaiserreich storyline uses that as a point of divergence, Germany doesn't use unrestricted submarine warfare which means the US doesn't enter the war. I don't know how credible it is but basically nothing of note happens in 1918, Germany stays defensive on the west and crushes the Reds in the russian civil war (and with some hindsight neutralises the Salonika front), then in 1919 they turn all of their resources on a push against France. They cannot defeat Britain so they sign peace 2 years later

  • @daniel_4541
    @daniel_4541 5 років тому

    can you guys look at navel warfare

  • @trednax_7789
    @trednax_7789 5 років тому

    I cringe so much when hearing us (belgians) talk English.

    • @MrSvenovitch
      @MrSvenovitch 5 років тому +1

      vergelijk niet iedereen met deze niet welbespraakte zenuwachtige nerd aub

    • @trednax_7789
      @trednax_7789 5 років тому

      @@MrSvenovitch ik weet het ma das vaak zo da wij echt raar klinken, zo iets tussen een duitser en een fransman

    • @wisecoonie
      @wisecoonie 5 років тому

      Gruwelijk boers accent heeft ie. Maar dat geldt ook voor piet chielens (curator in flanders fields) en die vindt zzelf duidelijk een geweldige Engelssprekende Vlaming. Beschamend.

  • @johnhall8364
    @johnhall8364 5 років тому

    Interesting, the way the occupation is discussed here is strikingly different from the Allied stories about German atrocities that are in all our history books.
    I guess that was mostly just Allied propaganda?

    • @AtParmentier
      @AtParmentier 5 років тому

      Though Allied propaganda exaggerated the situation a bit, it was bad. The Flemish got little bit better life relative to the Walloons during the war, but it was still a harsh period. A little bit of the Flammenpolitik can still be felt at that particular museum. The Yzertower is a place of pilgrimage for Flemish nationalists.

    • @wisecoonie
      @wisecoonie 5 років тому

      The British exaggerrated the situation to draw sympathy from their own population to act and intervene against the Germans. Most British people were initially strongly opposed to a military intervention On European mainland. But it remains a fact that the German army killed hundreds of belgian civilians and burned cities and towns in the first weeks of the war. That is well-documented fact and not fantasy.

  • @Real_Claudy_Focan
    @Real_Claudy_Focan 5 років тому +1

    This AVV-VVK tower is a shame for all soldiers and true belgians who fought there ! Flemish independentism propaganda in this "private" museum is a shame ! Nothing is translated in french ! Dutch, german and english, but they firmly refuse to translate anything in french !

    • @wisecoonie
      @wisecoonie 5 років тому +3

      Claudy_Focan well, you for one would have been one who would have bombed the place as it effectively was in 1946. As it happens, you can read it in English or learn the other language, ie Dutch. Enough Flemish soldiers gave their life for their country under French aristocratic rule, respect their memory and stop whining.