How to Dance Salsa Tumbao vs Numbers Salsa On2

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  • @tngodncr
    @tngodncr 6 років тому +11

    This was the best explanation and demonstration of the Salsa "on 2" that I have seen on UA-cam. The Tumbao beat that you were playing with your mouths helped so much too. Made everything crystal clear. Thanks for a great demo.

  • @SBKZMedia
    @SBKZMedia 17 днів тому

    Amazing explanation! Love this content!

  • @FStepES
    @FStepES 8 років тому +13

    Finally an explanation that tells how it really works! Thanks guys! From now on this is my go-to video for teaching beginners.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому +1

      Dan Aldridge thank you for your comment! We are happy that you are going to teach like this your beginner classes. Salsaludos from NYC

    • @doseofdesi926
      @doseofdesi926 5 років тому

      I'm still confused. I need to see it with music

  • @jean-charlesgentilly1602
    @jean-charlesgentilly1602 6 років тому +2

    Wow! Thanks guys..... Clear, concise, compelling and all with great humility... Marvellous!

  • @JoJo-iv9bi
    @JoJo-iv9bi 8 років тому +5

    I grew up hearing and feeling the beat not counting, so I really appreciate this type of explanation. Thank you guys! ♡ :)

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      +Jojo A Thank you so much for your comment! =) We are going to keep making videos like this. Thank you for the inspiration!

  • @jenny5800
    @jenny5800 Рік тому

    ❤ Buenísimo. Muy fácil de entender, muchas gracias!

  • @yadielayala
    @yadielayala 8 років тому +2

    Mind blown Joel!!!! Damn you lol I cant sleep now. I've been thinking about this all day

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      Omar Ayala haha, it's ok, little by little will become more natural and you are going to be able to apply it without thinking! Saludos

  • @AlexRGuitar
    @AlexRGuitar 9 років тому +4

    Este video es el mejor que he visto!! Gracias!!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      +AlexRGuitar Muchas gracias Alex! =)

  • @mmorales1612
    @mmorales1612 8 років тому +4

    I've recently started to learn salsa dancing and I'm learning on2 but with numbers. But this tumbao explanation made it much easier to avoid the jerky stop/move movements that can happen counting numbers. Thank you for sharing.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому +1

      M Morales thank you for your comment! You can learn both ways, counting and with the sound of the tumbao just keep training your ear, it's the most important part since you are dancing to the sounds of the tumbao when you practice this way. Try to practice when you are social dancing. We have more videos with tips hope those help you as well to help you to learn on2. Salsaludos. Joel

  • @morrisanderson3426
    @morrisanderson3426 5 років тому +1

    I Like Your Methods of explanation on the movements body wise but also the musicality

  • @ClarkeIllmatical
    @ClarkeIllmatical 8 років тому +2

    Joel, I love your musicality videos. More teachers should do this... it helps them in the long run.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      Clarke Illmatical thank you so much for your comment, we are going to keep this movement of videos. Please stay tuned!
      Thank you. Joel

  • @promisestarxd9487
    @promisestarxd9487 6 років тому +15

    Wish you would have demonstrated the differences with the music

  • @miguelvicentemarin4001
    @miguelvicentemarin4001 Рік тому

    I love it, thank you very much for your wonderful teachings. God bless.

  • @johnchiluiza2841
    @johnchiluiza2841 2 роки тому

    This was perfect example of dancing to the tumbao and adding the count.

  • @marialauravarela4327
    @marialauravarela4327 4 роки тому

    you are great! I'm from Argentina

  • @joseluisdelacruz2183
    @joseluisdelacruz2183 2 роки тому

    Thanks so much teachers ♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @szililolabu
    @szililolabu 7 років тому +2

    very good. with the "cun cun" conga beats and music and numbers.

  • @pickleMTV
    @pickleMTV 10 років тому +1

    Great video! Saludos desde Texas!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      +pickleMTV Thank you! Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa
      Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline, we will have great information for you!

  • @LFXDancers
    @LFXDancers 10 років тому +2

    I love this series Tip Tuesday can't wait for more. Great explanation guys I will share this with all the LFX Dancers :)

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      LFX Dancers than you for your comment, we are going to continue with the video series, stay tuned! Salsaludos to LFX

  • @enflujo
    @enflujo 10 років тому +2

    Back to basics! This makes sense in the context of the music or in the context of songs that call "you" to dance this way. If you are lucky enough to dance with sometone who gets it then great.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому +2

      onBeat thank you for your comment, in part this is our goal, that we help people to dance more to the music than the numbers, dancing with Feeling is the best way to express on the dance floor. Let's Dance With Feeling! Thank you!Joel

    • @kmichalene
      @kmichalene 6 років тому

      Excellent! Thanks!

  • @mariateresafatimabellounie5216
    @mariateresafatimabellounie5216 10 років тому +1

    muy bueno la música y el baile no solo mueve los sentido sino que realiza grandes bibramientos emocionales que es capas de transformare en el hilo conducto de los grandes sensazione

  • @capeman10
    @capeman10 7 років тому +1

    Thank you Joel, I just subscribed, thanks for the help.

  • @hugoestrada2089
    @hugoestrada2089 2 місяці тому

    This made me understand NY on 2

  • @cursosdebaileenmexico6374
    @cursosdebaileenmexico6374 9 років тому +2

    Thank you guys!!

  • @V21IC
    @V21IC 5 років тому

    Muy bien!
    Pueden bajar los demás vídeos que nos confunden.
    The ' Pause' in the middle with the TumTum indicates a smoother tranfer of weight and allows the time to initiate a lot of other moves. Thus, the dance would not look like a '100 meters' sprint!
    I've also noticed that when they teach 1,2,3; 5,6,7 there isn't a real pause. Rather, it's just a 6-count redistributed in the space(time) of 8 beats!

  • @normandcharette2794
    @normandcharette2794 5 років тому +1

    Hi, just curious. Why does the male start with right foot back on 2 . Most videos I have seen start with the male stepping left foot forward on 2. Thanks

  • @chewee2k
    @chewee2k 8 років тому +1

    Great video!!! Thanks so much!!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      chewee2k thank you for your comment!

  • @juliocoparrota
    @juliocoparrota 10 років тому +6

    gracias, muy bien explicado!!!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  10 років тому

      Thank you Julian Fmotion =) Muchas gracias!

  • @gianlucazucchiatti1355
    @gianlucazucchiatti1355 5 місяців тому

    Good Job..all done👍

  • @marcapparatus
    @marcapparatus 9 років тому +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH. I've been learning salsa/mambo for a few years and have been trying my best to explain dancing to the tumbao to some friends. i will show them this video. please keep sharing the knowledge and love of salsa/mambo!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      +CoffeeMakerFilms Hello thank you for your comment, happy to hear that you like our video. Hope to see you in our Live Classes on Jan 30th 2016 - you can reserve your space at MySalsaOnline we will keeping sharing the love of Salsa/Mambo =)

  • @domenicopeluso3159
    @domenicopeluso3159 6 років тому +4

    Great explanation. I like the fact that you will be on the center on 4&5 but so it means that you'll reach the the center on the first of the two tum-tum of the conga. What about reaching the center on the second tum-tum of the conga. How do you find this version compared to the other one? Thank you

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      @zevdraven1658 3 роки тому

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      @francobryant5768 3 роки тому

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      @yahirkairo5423 3 роки тому

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  • @lohiau
    @lohiau 3 роки тому

    I love this explanation but without the music playing I can’t quite tell whether this is Eddie Torres Mambo Tipico 2 or Palladium 2. I’m thinking its more palladium than Torres. Both break on 2 but Torres style goes break (2) step (3) override (4) step (5) break (6) and in palladium style it goes break (2) step (3) step (4) pause (5) break (6). However watching how they start seems to say it’s more Torres style as they don’t start with the break. They start pre break on the cun cun. In the end it’s just a minor detail.

  • @melphiss
    @melphiss 5 років тому +1

    Isn't it the "Palladium" style?
    Around Europe I see dancers traveling on 4 and stepping on 1 or & (123 567 or &23 &67). The video is stepping on 4 instead (234 678).

  • @barajasavalos
    @barajasavalos 9 років тому +4

    Now I get it!!!

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      +Edith A Nice, good to hear that! =)

  • @aldoelektrika
    @aldoelektrika 4 роки тому

    Or think of it like "quick quick slow" starting on the 2, right for Leads and Left for Follows

  • @BosephusBigelsworth
    @BosephusBigelsworth 6 років тому

    Excellent!

  • @Salsa_Souls
    @Salsa_Souls 10 років тому +3

    Well explained :-)

  • @V21IC
    @V21IC 5 років тому

    I'm in México City.
    I'm trying to learn salsa On1.
    Would it be sensible if I dance like this to the Congo?:
    Slap - on 1
    2,
    Tum-tum - 3, 4 &
    Slap - on 5
    6
    Tum-tum - 7, 8&
    The slap sound would be my move on beat 1, 5.
    The tum-tum, I'd be at 3, 4 &; 7, 8 &

  • @WisdomChaser82
    @WisdomChaser82 8 років тому +1

    SO NICE !!!!!

  • @juliocoparrota
    @juliocoparrota 10 років тому +1

    yo bailo en 1 salsa cubana y se me hace muy facil.pero trato de encontrar ese bit de conga y solo por ratos logro identificarlo, supongo que es practica y costumbre

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  10 років тому +2

      Correcto, es cuestion de tiempo y practica. Tenemos que educar el oido para poder identificar los sonidos y tambien poder bailar al tiempo del instrumento. Cada vez iras mejorando tu habilidad para ademas de identificarlo podras mantenerlo por toda la cancion e interpretarla.

  • @tributahina1190
    @tributahina1190 9 років тому +1

    Fsntastic!!!! It now makes "rational" sense lol Thank you :)

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      +tributahina Thank you for your comment! =)

  • @Rambo681
    @Rambo681 4 роки тому +1

    Well, the steps are the same as salsa on1 just the counting is different.

  • @miguelaan5856
    @miguelaan5856 7 років тому +1

    algo agarre al mirar trato de entrnder por los movimientos pero q bueno estaria tambien se pueda explicar en español o castellano gracias Amigos

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  7 років тому +1

      angelmiguel nuñezaraujo gracias por la nota, que bueno que agarraste algo, espero que los hagamos en español pronto. Tenemos otro canal puedes buscar nos en Clases De Salsa (punto) net pon el enlace así como se escucha.
      Saludos y gracias por tu comentario. Joel

    • @miguelaan5856
      @miguelaan5856 7 років тому +1

      Salsa Lessons NYC me parece mentira la persona q sigo tanto mirando tus videos de clases y sociales me responda muchas gracias Joel

  • @wellblack1781
    @wellblack1781 7 років тому

    Hello Guys! thank you for your videos, I´m also subscribed to your online lessons I really like your classes :). I have a question, I understand that the way you teach is also called the power2 when you step on "234 678". Why then for the shine you use the count 123 567 instead of keep counting "234 568". Thank you!

    • @mpalmieri23
      @mpalmieri23 7 років тому

      Hello! Good question! We really don't step the "power 2" since we step on the "8 and 1" first. We do follow the break step on the slap of the conga also which is similar to the power 2. But when we do shines, depending on the shine, its just easier to count with numbers since we don't always land on the "cun-cun", it is sometimes in the air and we would land on the 2 or the 3 or kick on the 8. It varies. I hope that helps and makes sense!

    • @allthingsyari4732
      @allthingsyari4732 2 роки тому

      @@mpalmieri23 this is amazing, but I cannot stop looking at your shoes 😍 where are they from?

  • @ciroviviano
    @ciroviviano 6 років тому

    Leads step back on 2 with right foot
    or Leads step 2 forward with left?

    • @ppowell25
      @ppowell25 5 років тому

      Ciro Vi leads step back with right foot on 2. Step forward with left foot on 6.

  • @Jorgeeliecerh
    @Jorgeeliecerh 10 років тому

    SAUCE LIKE YOU FOR TEACH

  • @claudiogiunchiglia9430
    @claudiogiunchiglia9430 7 років тому +2

    thanks for the video! In my opinion it's better say that on1 we dance in quick quick slow, on2 we dance quick quick quick! this is that says Eddie Torres!

    • @V21IC
      @V21IC 5 років тому +2

      No. I thought it was for On2, it's Slow, Quick-Quick, SLOW, Quick-Quick.
      On1, it's quick-quick-quick & quick-quick-quick!
      My experience

  • @bmeistergeneral
    @bmeistergeneral 10 років тому +1

    Is this not the power 2 style? When I hear On 2 New York style, I think ET2

    • @Aymenadhami
      @Aymenadhami 10 років тому +1

      ET dances on the tumbao too

    • @reganxmas
      @reganxmas 9 років тому

      +Bernard Morrison You are correct, Bernard. ET2 starts on the second open tone. So: ku KU, PA

    • @FlyingSalsero
      @FlyingSalsero 5 років тому +1

      Eddie Master is dancing on count 123 567, breaking on2 and 6. While contratiempo using 234 678

  • @rayscher
    @rayscher 6 місяців тому

    This is contratiempo on 2, not NY on 2, NY on 2 these days return to neutral position on 1&5 instead of 4&8.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for your comment! We also can dance landing on 1&5 as well, I will do that if I was dancing a Charanga that hits more on those beats (1&5). But for me if the accent is on the conga, I will step on those sounds. It's about the musicality and the freedom of dancing to the sounds of the instruments. Just preference!

  • @Eatsleepjustdance
    @Eatsleepjustdance 8 років тому

    Sorry to be a pain but I leant to dance on 1 can you explain this on one

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому

      Justin Gayle thank you for your comment, yes we will make some videos on1 as well since more people like you are learning on1 and it can be musical as well. For on1 Dancers we will follow the cowbell, piano, etc...
      Please stay tuned for more videos.
      Thank you. Joel

  • @ciroviviano
    @ciroviviano 6 років тому

    I see leads step back on 2? Ladies forward on 2 left leg
    Slap its on two?

    • @V21IC
      @V21IC 5 років тому

      Slap - on 2; on 6
      Tum-tum - on 4&5; 8&1

    • @mynameisray6174
      @mynameisray6174 5 років тому +1

      @@V21IC , I thought the Tum-Tum is only on the 4& and the 8& (with the "&" being the halve measure), not on the 4&5 and 8&1. I do agree with the slap being on the 2 and 6 though.

    • @V21IC
      @V21IC 5 років тому

      @@mynameisray6174 Question. What happens/what movement occurs on beats 5; & 1 for the lead?
      I think that may clear my confusion. Thanks.

  • @delaflota7423
    @delaflota7423 5 років тому

    Sorry, why do you say "transferring the weight"? I think you're doing that anyway with each step, aren't you?

  • @myreckshodge4741
    @myreckshodge4741 8 років тому

    I seriously dont get it. I listen to this and its all good. I put a song on and I cant find these beats to save my life.

    • @JoelSalsaNY
      @JoelSalsaNY  8 років тому +3

      +Myrecks Hodge Thank you for your comment, it's a process to train the ear and be able to listen and separate every instrument on each song. To start please try music from Tromboranga, they have good salsa music that is so clear to listen the tumbao Don't give up, like I said is a process and takes time, but with practice you will be able to do it!

    • @bobwright3438
      @bobwright3438 8 років тому +3

      Hodge, you are not the only person with the same problem, Salsa is very complicated/syncopated music; it takes a lot of time and listening. I teach ballroom dancing and the Classic Mambo movement is hard to teach to break ON 2. The Above explanation was very "Good". I am always looking for pointers to make my instruction easier.

  • @carlostelevida
    @carlostelevida 5 років тому +2

    making traditional count look ugly on purpose is like telling the creator of the on2 Eddie Torres is a crazy guy, I can't see the real difference if you don't dance properly on2 with counting, as of 2019 nobody dance on tumbao so all your's students now are learning to dance with the count, what a joke.

  • @alouimalambo2
    @alouimalambo2 7 років тому

    This is mambo dancing