That Lord of the Rings scene is so well done. I feel like without any context or ever having seen the movie, you can tell exactly what's going on for the characters. I love how heavy the ring sounds when it hits the ground. That series can never be appreciated enough.
and it doesn't bounce, like a ring would, showing the extreme weight of it, like with frodo's scar on the back of his neck way later on they actually used a magnet to keep it from rolling after it fell
We know the ring can change sizes, so is beyond reason that it could also alter its density? I think it became heavier so as keep from bouncing and rolling under a chair or something, giving Bilbo every chance to change his mind.
@@julito13tv that isn't how it ends? (I mean it seems like he's still alive because his eyes are closed when the blanket is lifted off his face but then they're open when it's put back over)
As I stated before, I only used the DVD collection I had at the time (which didn't include the shining), and also that's the one everyone knows about. I'm a huge fan of Wendy Carlos and her Shining score, not to mention Tron!
I thought I was the only one who noticed. My music teacher flipped out when I told them. Like, seriously, the main motif is Dies Irae? In all the comments for the music, only mine mentioned it. How can we not notice it? It's literally right there!!
I was watching a sideways video after I watched the movie and when he mentioned the dies irae for the nth time, it just occured to me that that tone from frozen 2 was the dies irae. Then i felt extremely disappointed in myself that i didnt pick that up earlier
Not a movie (originally) but Sweeney Todd is the KING of Dies Irae. It’s in like... nearly every character’s theme, either the original or inverted. It’s there to symbolize that the main/titular character is surrounded by and fascinated by death.
@@joedwyer3297The Dies Irae is integrated into the music in lots of ways that are almost entirely unnoticeable unless you’re looking hard. It’s my favorite musical so of course I’m biased, but most critics I hear praise it. So I’d say it’s a safe bet that Sondheim knew what he was doing and pulled it off well. Also I’d totally recommend it if you feel like watching a musical :))
Joseph it seems like they did. Even the way the ring looked like it was falling from his hands looked like it was being pulled and the ring didn’t seem to bounce.
Yes - it's so basic one needs more than just the notes to claim is the Dies Irae; there needs to be some doom in the context (otherwise Carol of the Bells would sound like a horror score - it would be to much of a stretch to claim it's prefiguring the crucifixion).
Not to say it can't be used ironically or in humor. Home Alone uses it this way when introducing old man Marley. It's played in a loud and exaggerated fashion. There is a context of doom in the scene although you learn it is unfounded by the end of the movie. To the average person it sounds like exaggerated creepy music but to a musician it has an extra layer of meaning, an inside joke. Typically, dies irae often precedes death (is the musical "word" or "phrase" for death) so when used in this way comes off as over dramatic and less serious. This is on purpose.
@@sweiland75 Indeed, though to be pedantic, it's not just a minor scale going down in thirds, it's a specific pattern: 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, tonic, 2nd, 7th, tonic. As I say in the video not all of the patterns after "direct quotations" match exactly but it's so close that one could claim it was a source of inspiration. It's much harder to come up with that pattern than a descending minor scale in thirds when writing original music, unless you are deliberately quoting the melody, which is one of the biggest musical in-jokes in history.
@@wesleygrove9635 Yeah, it's actually one of several themes representing the darkness in LOTR, there's one for Mordor/minions, one for the ring itself and its allure and timelessness, but this one is straight up death and the will of Sauron to dominate the world.
Can't stop finding this melody in so many different movie soundtracks since we listened to the original greogorian one in music lesson. It's kind of annoying and fascinating at the same time :D
Sir Cuffington fr tho, the entire soundtrack is just rephrasing the dies irae in billions of different ways! i loved the way sondheim regenerated from the musical!!
It appears in Home Alone whenever Kevin sees Old Man Marley. But after Kevin talks to him in the church, the music changes to the less-scary Carol of the Bells, which uses the same four-note motif. Genius scoring by John Williams!
Especially considering it's of the very few examples in film that actually has the full original Latin vocals, rather than just an instrumental rendition.
I've always loved the scene where Bilbo drops the ring. First it seems to stick, almost cling to his hand. Landing, it seems much heavier than it should.
The track "The Trio" in the duel scene at the end of "The Good, The Bad, The Ugly" has Dies Irae played on the Spanish guitar that's also played throughout the whole movie. It's really prominent and speeds up so you don't recognize it at first. Plus Lord Blackwood from the Sherlock Holmes movie is always accompanied by death, so you hear a plain and clear Dies Irae that pays before someone dies.
What don’t you get? Some context clue this video is about the melody in movies and making Christmas is song in the nightmare before Christmas connect the dots.
Every time my family watches Home Alone during the holidays, and the church bells ring out whenever something ominous happens, I belt out, "DI-ES I-RAE!!!" or "MAK-ING CHRIST-MAS!!!" My family hates it. lol The movie, Open Grave, has a beautiful piano rendition of Dies Irae playing during the end credits, as well. It was completely worth sitting through the movie just to hear the music. I believe the piece was performed by the wife or sister of the director, María López-Gallego.
Thanks! Though it should be noted that the melody was originally composed well before Mozart in the 13th century as a Gregorian Chant. It's actually one of the oldest Europian melodies there is. I'll have to check out Home Alone again and see if I can spot it. :P
As others said, there's the opening of The Shining. Also in Sleeping with the Enemy, Julia Robert's villainous husband keeps playing the Dies Irae section of Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique.
HBO’s Game of Thrones uses it in season 8 episode 3 “The Long Night” for the Night King’s theme as well as season 8 episode 4 “The Last of the Starks” during the funeral pyre scene at the beginning of the episode.
the entirety of sweeney todd, making christmas in the nightmare before christmas, and now frozen 2 entire melody. the dies ire notes are everywhere man
Sweeney Todd uses it for its opening ballad, though I think they nixed the lyrics and made it an instrumental in the film version. A particularly powerful rendition, beautifully terrifying.
It's more than just that, i think it was that out of 15 songs, 13 of them were based mainly around the dies irae, just with different variations. That literal musical and movie are literally just Dies Irae: The adaptation
I'm here because before Star Wars Episode 9 was released, my friend found a theory that the last few notes of the teaser trailer held the clue to Kylo Ren's fate. The first two notes give the impression we're hearing his theme as "Rise of Skywalker" appears on the screen, then the notes change. A handful of people ran to reddit to share their discovery and confirm its Dies Irae they heard, then the rest is history. (Trying to make this as spoiler free as I can) The internet can be an amazing place.
I didn't forget about it, I just skipped that one cause I figured that's the one everyone knows about. That's the whole main title of the movie, so it's not exactly hidden in the incidental score. I tried to focus on movies people haven't posted on youtube about yet. See these for an example: Dies Irae in the Movies Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) - Dies Irae reference
Perhaps my ear is terrible, because I know the Dies Irae and I know these soundtracks, but I can't hear the connection or motif in any except the LotR movies (where it seems loud, foregrounded and obvious), and this in itself is odd because there is a powerful link between LotR's soundtrack and Wagnerian opera more than liturgical music.
It is the Dies Irae. Or Day of Wrath. Used in almost every movie to show death. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Lion King, Sweeney Todd, It’s a Beautiful Life, The Shining. It’s great
Watching this made me realize how familiar I am with this theme but til now unconciously. Today I recognized it while listening to Symphonie Fantastique where it's parodied.
I think I remember it in the Cats movie when the main character meets the cat that ends up dying. It's the only thing I had any positive reaction to the entire time watching it besides seeing the credits.
Dies Irae is the Wilhelm Scream of film music
+Tim Cox and also "the lick" of classical music
Tim Cox Same with the Blue Danube Waltz
Tim Cox but less annoying
It actually signifies death
Someone on reddit just posted this
That Lord of the Rings scene is so well done. I feel like without any context or ever having seen the movie, you can tell exactly what's going on for the characters. I love how heavy the ring sounds when it hits the ground. That series can never be appreciated enough.
Man thank you for that comment.
I was thinking exactly the same thing few seconds ago!
and it doesn't bounce, like a ring would, showing the extreme weight of it, like with frodo's scar on the back of his neck way later on
they actually used a magnet to keep it from rolling after it fell
@@0rurin legendary cinematography
We know the ring can change sizes, so is beyond reason that it could also alter its density? I think it became heavier so as keep from bouncing and rolling under a chair or something, giving Bilbo every chance to change his mind.
As someone who has neither read the books nor seen the movies…I could definitely feel what was happening with the characters.
What I expected: hear a lot of dies irae
What actually happened: I got a lot of spoilers.
That's not the end of Groundhog day, so ho watch it.
I love ground hog day lol watched it last night
@@julito13tv that isn't how it ends? (I mean it seems like he's still alive because his eyes are closed when the blanket is lifted off his face but then they're open when it's put back over)
Ovo no- that's not even close to end of the movie but to explain it any would be definitely venturing into spoiler territory.
@@CaptOrbit I don't know what I was replying to there. But yeah you can't explain that movie
The Shining?? The entire opening sequence is Dies Irae
As I stated before, I only used the DVD collection I had at the time (which didn't include the shining), and also that's the one everyone knows about. I'm a huge fan of Wendy Carlos and her Shining score, not to mention Tron!
"The entire opening *_sequence_* is Dies Irae..." I see what you did there.
Josh Welsh no way! i gotta listen to both
Josh Welsh and friday the 13th 6
@@markatkins8807 I don't see what he did..lol
So I realized the entirety of "Making Christmas" from Nightmare Before Christmas is just Dies Irae.
Yup. It’s also in jacks lament a little bit
Frozen 2 should be added to the list now...
I thought I was the only one who noticed. My music teacher flipped out when I told them. Like, seriously, the main motif is Dies Irae? In all the comments for the music, only mine mentioned it. How can we not notice it? It's literally right there!!
I was watching a sideways video after I watched the movie and when he mentioned the dies irae for the nth time, it just occured to me that that tone from frozen 2 was the dies irae.
Then i felt extremely disappointed in myself that i didnt pick that up earlier
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣so true
BIOWP RIGHT?
The whole reason I'm here
Not a movie (originally) but Sweeney Todd is the KING of Dies Irae. It’s in like... nearly every character’s theme, either the original or inverted. It’s there to symbolize that the main/titular character is surrounded by and fascinated by death.
it’s a funeral song.
I've never seen it but I feel like that'd be overdoing it
But maybe they pulled it off
@@joedwyer3297The Dies Irae is integrated into the music in lots of ways that are almost entirely unnoticeable unless you’re looking hard. It’s my favorite musical so of course I’m biased, but most critics I hear praise it. So I’d say it’s a safe bet that Sondheim knew what he was doing and pulled it off well. Also I’d totally recommend it if you feel like watching a musical :))
@midnightthefairy8747 well I do like musicals🤔 I am interested to see how he managed it, its a cool idea
1:54 heaviest ring in the world
Man, I really want to re watch lord of the rings now.
They put a strong magnet under the floorboards to get that shot
John Cole Lol stop lying
Joseph it seems like they did. Even the way the ring looked like it was falling from his hands looked like it was being pulled and the ring didn’t seem to bounce.
I am wheezing help
You forgot to include all of Sweeney Todd
and Into The Woods
He should've included the whole movie
ATTEND THE TALE OF SWEENEY TODD
Just play the entire movie 😂
@@tevvytevvy2672 SWING YOUR RAZORS HIGH
It's so common and easy to write because it's just a minor scale going down in thirds.
Yes - it's so basic one needs more than just the notes to claim is the Dies Irae; there needs to be some doom in the context (otherwise Carol of the Bells would sound like a horror score - it would be to much of a stretch to claim it's prefiguring the crucifixion).
Not to say it can't be used ironically or in humor. Home Alone uses it this way when introducing old man Marley. It's played in a loud and exaggerated fashion. There is a context of doom in the scene although you learn it is unfounded by the end of the movie. To the average person it sounds like exaggerated creepy music but to a musician it has an extra layer of meaning, an inside joke. Typically, dies irae often precedes death (is the musical "word" or "phrase" for death) so when used in this way comes off as over dramatic and less serious. This is on purpose.
right?
@@sweiland75 Indeed, though to be pedantic, it's not just a minor scale going down in thirds, it's a specific pattern: 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, tonic, 2nd, 7th, tonic. As I say in the video not all of the patterns after "direct quotations" match exactly but it's so close that one could claim it was a source of inspiration. It's much harder to come up with that pattern than a descending minor scale in thirds when writing original music, unless you are deliberately quoting the melody, which is one of the biggest musical in-jokes in history.
Isn't it C A# C G#?
In the Lord of the Rings it's quite appropriate given the sitution and the themes.
Perfect for the Nàzgul
@@rowanmiller7062 the One Ring in general really
@@wesleygrove9635 Yeah, it's actually one of several themes representing the darkness in LOTR, there's one for Mordor/minions, one for the ring itself and its allure and timelessness, but this one is straight up death and the will of Sauron to dominate the world.
I mean... I'd say it's pretty thematically appropriate in all these
Especially considering Tolkien was catholic
Can't stop finding this melody in so many different movie soundtracks since we listened to the original greogorian one in music lesson. It's kind of annoying and fascinating at the same time :D
Berlioz's Symphonie Fantasique has my favorite Dies Irae movement.
Or Second Ysaye sonata
May as well rename Sweeney Todd to Dies Irae
Sir Cuffington fr tho, the entire soundtrack is just rephrasing the dies irae in billions of different ways! i loved the way sondheim regenerated from the musical!!
For some reason the way that the lord of the rings portrayed sounded so epic
It appears in Home Alone whenever Kevin sees Old Man Marley. But after Kevin talks to him in the church, the music changes to the less-scary Carol of the Bells, which uses the same four-note motif. Genius scoring by John Williams!
John Williams the 🐐
Agreed @@ElBrillante4
now I can't un-hear it
It's not bad
Also the beginning of Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame
Especially considering it's of the very few examples in film that actually has the full original Latin vocals, rather than just an instrumental rendition.
Once I heard this as the Dead by Daylight theme - I never stopped hearing it.
I've always loved the scene where Bilbo drops the ring. First it seems to stick, almost cling to his hand. Landing, it seems much heavier than it should.
Agreed
Great find in It's a Wonderful Life, never noticed that before!
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Also in Clockwork Orange's Funeral of Queen Mary and "Making Christmas" in The Nightmare Before Christmas".
Chloe C the Nightmare Before Christmas melody is actually pretty symbolic because it suggests they are actually killing Christmas
The track "The Trio" in the duel scene at the end of "The Good, The Bad, The Ugly" has Dies Irae played on the Spanish guitar that's also played throughout the whole movie. It's really prominent and speeds up so you don't recognize it at first. Plus Lord Blackwood from the Sherlock Holmes movie is always accompanied by death, so you hear a plain and clear Dies Irae that pays before someone dies.
Sherlock Holmes also uses the Westminster Quarters, which sounds similar to Dies Irae.
Nightmare before christmas?! Making christmas making christmas making christmas.
Don't get it
What don’t you get? Some context clue this video is about the melody in movies and making Christmas is song in the nightmare before Christmas connect the dots.
@@Javier-mp2vg Oooook
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X Men 2 was the big one I remember. Dies Irae makes good fight scene music when you pair it with Nightcrawler.
I will have to watch it again. Don't remember catching it, but it was probably before I even knew what the Dies Irae was.
Dies Irae is also heard quite a bit in The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996).
ig technically the fnaf movie theme counts now lol
I suppose the *It's a Wonderful Life* one wouldn't be too surprising--divinity is, after all, the centre of the story.
Every time my family watches Home Alone during the holidays, and the church bells ring out whenever something ominous happens, I belt out, "DI-ES I-RAE!!!" or "MAK-ING CHRIST-MAS!!!" My family hates it. lol
The movie, Open Grave, has a beautiful piano rendition of Dies Irae playing during the end credits, as well. It was completely worth sitting through the movie just to hear the music. I believe the piece was performed by the wife or sister of the director, María López-Gallego.
Thanks! Though it should be noted that the melody was originally composed well before Mozart in the 13th century as a Gregorian Chant. It's actually one of the oldest Europian melodies there is.
I'll have to check out Home Alone again and see if I can spot it. :P
It's also been used in Frozen 2 many times (mainly in Into the Unknown).
Who's Herr After the video of Vox?
Lol, god. VOX is the absolute worst
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From this day forward I will hunt this music at movies.
I honestly can't believe Dead By Daylight made a whole theme out of this basic motif the way they did, its kind of genius 💯
The main theme from "The Shining" was inspired by Dies Irae...
The main theme from "The Shining" IS Dies Irae.
As others said, there's the opening of The Shining. Also in Sleeping with the Enemy, Julia Robert's villainous husband keeps playing the Dies Irae section of Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique.
Oh wow! I will NEVER un-hear these now!!! But that’s a good thing!
I'm pretty sure it's in Mulan, too, like every time the Huns show up.
HBO’s Game of Thrones uses it in season 8 episode 3 “The Long Night” for the Night King’s theme as well as season 8 episode 4 “The Last of the Starks” during the funeral pyre scene at the beginning of the episode.
the entirety of sweeney todd, making christmas in the nightmare before christmas, and now frozen 2 entire melody. the dies ire notes are everywhere man
There's a great Dies Irae quotation in Huppertz' original score for 1927 Metropolis, too. Couldn't find it here on UA-cam though…
Nice! That's on my to-watch list. :)
Johnny Cashe That's one great movie!
I remember learning about this when my band teacher taught me about it when it showed in a piece we played called vesuvius.
Sweeney Todd uses it for its opening ballad, though I think they nixed the lyrics and made it an instrumental in the film version. A particularly powerful rendition, beautifully terrifying.
To be fair to Sweeney Todd, the majority of the musical score is based around the Dies Irae. It's featured in almost all of the leitmotifs.
It's more than just that, i think it was that out of 15 songs, 13 of them were based mainly around the dies irae, just with different variations. That literal musical and movie are literally just Dies Irae: The adaptation
Just spotted it while watching Rouge One. Masterful implementation in that movie.
I'm here because before Star Wars Episode 9 was released, my friend found a theory that the last few notes of the teaser trailer held the clue to Kylo Ren's fate.
The first two notes give the impression we're hearing his theme as "Rise of Skywalker" appears on the screen, then the notes change. A handful of people ran to reddit to share their discovery and confirm its Dies Irae they heard, then the rest is history. (Trying to make this as spoiler free as I can)
The internet can be an amazing place.
For anyone who knows or cares, the organ in the background of The Jetset Life is Going to Kill You by MCR is this as well.
Hildur Guonadottir's "Call Me Joker" must be added.
Let's not forget this was used in Hunchback of Notre Dame (the Disney version)
thank you for posting as an organist I've improvised on this simple little theme
Also “Battle of the Heroes” from Star Wars Ep.3 is completely based on Dies Irae
I never realized that this was used in so many movies
What about the order 66 sequence in Star Wars III? Can someone smarter than me confirm?
@Will Hampson Which part? Anakin’s Betrayal? Or the jedi temple march? Somewhere else?
its a wonderful live oh man i saw that movie Years ago!
The song Elsa follows in Frozen 2 that it turns out she was right to follow against the advice of her moral core (Anna) was literally the Dies Irae.
u forgot Shining by Kubrick
I didn't forget about it, I just skipped that one cause I figured that's the one everyone knows about. That's the whole main title of the movie, so it's not exactly hidden in the incidental score. I tried to focus on movies people haven't posted on youtube about yet. See these for an example:
Dies Irae in the Movies
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) - Dies Irae reference
Perhaps my ear is terrible, because I know the Dies Irae and I know these soundtracks, but I can't hear the connection or motif in any except the LotR movies (where it seems loud, foregrounded and obvious), and this in itself is odd because there is a powerful link between LotR's soundtrack and Wagnerian opera more than liturgical music.
It’s in Road to El Dorado as well
The Road to El Dorado directly quotes the Dies Irae chant in its soundtrack.
It's also used in both Mal's and Fischer's themes from Inception.
Whoa! I've always associated that with Lord of the Rings, not even thinking about its original form!
Also in "The Mission", right before the monk cuts the rope with all the armour, that he carried.
These movies will never be the same..
It is the Dies Irae. Or Day of Wrath. Used in almost every movie to show death. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Lion King, Sweeney Todd, It’s a Beautiful Life, The Shining. It’s great
When you hear the Fies Irae you'll hear it everywhere
super appropriate, though not shown here, when the last alliance of elves and men march against Sauron.
Watching this made me realize how familiar I am with this theme but til now unconciously. Today I recognized it while listening to Symphonie Fantastique where it's parodied.
Godzilla vs Destoroyah also used Des Iraes during the end of the film when Godzilla goes through a nuclear meltdown.
I wonder if you would consider the motif in Titanic a reference. Listen to “A building panic” specifically from 4:10.
Which Dias irea? The one I know is by guisippe verdi, but I know Mozart also did a requiem so I'm not sure.
don't forget the nightmare before christmas.
the first bit of "making christmas" is the dies irae
It’s awesome that one of the leitmotifs of Sauron is based on dies irae
What about Simulacra? The theme has the dies irae
The "Rip him open, take it back guys" from Aladdin seems to be turning up everywhere now. Not sure if that's where it originates, though.
It also used in the beginning of a good WWII film called Between Heaven & Hell (1956).
Well done! I never noticed the theme hidden in Star Wars.
Home Alone - Old Man Marley
That, and Carol of the Bells.
Unless Carol of the Bells is _also_ based on Dies Irae lol
I'm not a huge fan of dead by daylight, but it's theme is all I can think of when I hear the Dies Irae
You forgot the shining
Howard Shore in LotR nails it as usual
How could you make this video and leave out the Nightcrawler scene in X-Men 2???
The Car(1977)
Can pls someone explain me what this is about? I know Verdi's Diris Irae but in my amateur ears all these pieces sound completely different?!
Once you recognize it, yeah, it's super obvious.
I was listening to A Nightmare Before Christmas and could not stop hearing it!
So are the first four notes of Carol of the Bells one of those Dies Irae variations. (I don't have piano available to try)
Nightmare Before Christmas
"Making Christmas! Making Christmas!"
there is a ton of it in Sweeny Todd, it is in the intro song, Ms.Lovett's song etc
It was also used in a clockwork orange
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How could you forget the opening sequence of The Shining?
In episode 8 of Star Wars I think, there is a scene where Dies Irae
Plays
Fam you missed Hunchback of Notre Dame, right after Esmeralda spits in Frollo's face
In the chase sequence in the opening of Hunchback of Notre Dame, no?
_when you realize "Dies Iraes" is in "This is Halloween" as a main part of the melody_
I think I remember it in the Cats movie when the main character meets the cat that ends up dying. It's the only thing I had any positive reaction to the entire time watching it besides seeing the credits.
It also appears in nightmare before Christmas. Christmas Eve montage
no one could handle DIES IRAE in its full power , the song just gives off *f* vibes
The shining dawg
Didn't even know this was a thing...well you do learn something new everyday 😂
It's also in Crimson Tide. Gotta listen for it, though.