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New 2023 Ducati Scrambler Icon, Full Throttle & Nightshift! EICMA 2022
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2022
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nothing on the desert sled?
Any idea what's happening with the Desert Sled, if there'll be a new version, or discontinued? Thanks!
That black and orange gives it a "ready for action" look. Pretty cool!
The blue nightshift is very nice too! Distinctive and classy.
Personal I love the new tft display, the Italians they are unbeatable at the design..
That scrambler icon is speaking to me with those spoked rims and the blue paint work on the bike; it's really a great looking machine which isn't that much of a supirse as ducati has been my favorite brand in terms of styling for quite some time seeing as they always nail the look and feel of each bike.
I am Ducati Scrambler owner. 2018 Mach 2.0 edition (RSD) I pretty much like all changes but particularly the TFT display. That being said, I will keep my MACH... looking forward to upgrade with this new TFT.
Awesome job on these EICMA videos! I watched them all, unbelievable work getting these out before everyone else, don’t know how you did it. Lots of great models, appreciated your insights and highlight, well done mate!
It was a lot of work for sure, but really worth it for the great support in the comments from yourself and others! Appreciate it 🙏
Love the new scrambler cant wait to have one of this
Hello, Bob! You are clearly having a great time! It is good to see your excitement as if you were a kid in a playground. Really cool!
I loved the old look of this bike so much. I thought it was just perfect! I was afraid that the slightest tweak to the styling would ruin it for me. And that’s exactly what happened! I still like it tho.
Same here
Icon with spoked wheels does it for me.
The Full Throttle looks amazing and if you don't need the power of the Indian FTR it's an stylish option for sure!
I personally don't need a tft at all, but some may like it.
I would just not describe these as "retro" anymore. They are pretty much standard modern naked bikes with a long time proven motor and round headlight now.
Thanks Motobob for the welcome and the short talk. It was very nice to meet you in person.
Thank you also for the short appearance on the vlog.
You make great reviews that i love too watch.
Kind regards, Uros
Great coverage of EICMA! Loads of good reviews one after another.
Thanks for the support!
Did they discontinue the desert sled?
Not really a Ducati fan but I like this. I actually like the dash, modern but with a hint of ckassic with the round surround.
Yeah, a few plus's and minus's on the styling... hate the non-centred dash. The blue with brown seat is nicer than the dual coloured ones.
They should relaunch the Urban Enduro, it was the coolest!
Yep, like the way the design is maturing. It's time! Looks like a lot of fun.
Love the scramblers and almost got a café racer a couple years ago. I can't say that rider modes are really needed with a bike putting out less than 80+hp.
Agree, though rain mode is always a good thing for sloppy conditions
loving these updates ! you smashed it! I'm hooked on every video. Personally love the looks of these but do wish they had a more basic (no frills) package to keep the price down.
Ducati has so much R&D. Great bikes. Love your honest reviews
The styling is fine, still retro, but modern. I like the new dash (although if they flip 90 degree, with the square portion on the bottom, that would look better). I hate the old dash (i.e. rpm is completely messed up). Nightshift would be my choice.
I don't like this new dash.. i would prefer the shape of the old one or the 1100 with new functionalities.. but its not that bad thought!. Whats about RPM messed up? I own a full throttle 2019 .
I do like the Ducati Scrambler concept, deffo on the test ride list for something more fun and eye catching as my next bike. Have they stopped selling the Desert Sled in the UK? Can’t see it on their website - that was my favourite spec
Got my deposit down On a nightshift for next year already see it at the nec at motorcycle live and fell in love with it, feels like such a comfy riding position as well from just sitting on it
These updates changes everything for me...I know my next bike 👍 Thank you, man 👌
I love the Full Throttle and the Icon. Definitely my next bike. I’m a big fan of the modern look of a classic bike.
The blue paint work looks awesome. Yes agree with you, the TFT could be more retro like the triumph version.
luv the full throttle
Any motor is great but You are the best! Thanks for all the efforts and time you putting for us…
I think the Icon looks great particularly. The new tank looks great, and the shroud over the radiator is slick. Over all Italian styling is still sexy.
Overall I like the way Ducati have cleaned up the appearance of the bike, especially getting rid of that loopy throttle cable. Bars look a bit wide for filtering between cars with big mirrors. Probably replace them with something narrower. Head to head with a Triumph 900 Scrambler.
Love the new styling. The nightshift is easily my favourite variant since the shade of blue they used is one of my favourites! 🤩
I love the design of the Ducati Scrambler. I want to own one as soon as possible. I like it ALL GREY in colour including the rim....many shades of grey.
The oil cooler wings are a mistake, the blacked out Flat Track looks best and a fly screen over the dash would help. No news on the 1100 continuing?
Is that scrambler any good off road? I mean, it doesn't weigh much, it has spoked rims and good suspensions (?) so on the paper it should be good even off road, right? Let's see in the future... thanks a lot for the videos, I had a chance to see the Suzuki 800 V-Strom, the new Honda Transalp 750, but I'm not so sure that it is good off road and now the Ducati Scrambler. All of them have to be compared to the Yamaha 700 and the KTM 890, or maybe the KTM 690 R. What a battle!
I like the few clicks toward modern. Including the ride by wire. Let's face it, the last model scrambler was not a direct copy of the OG either. the price bump is still reasonable considering the lighter weight and upgrades.
I would choose the yellow Icon. I love everything about it.......Sal : )
last thing needed in a retro bike is a design change
Long time since Ducati made tasty exhaust headers and manifold for the exhaust. The M696/796 -esque sweeping exhaust manifold flows really well with the stubby short exhaust muffller. Good to see
looks good to me !
I’m so in love with the Nightshift one… at the moment it’s winter in the US, and I still don’t have my motorcycle driver's license, but I hope I can do it all by 2023… it will be a dream to get this bike…. I will be happy with the Interceptor 650 by RE or even a T100… since I’m short, but putting in the work to get more weight (I’m 5’7” 154lbs) I think the better beginner bike will be the Ducati… the screen is like a push back because it doesn’t fit the “freedom” from everything (digital world included) but in a certain way I think it’s one of the reasons I might choose this one… it will be kinda futuristic, I can see myself taking the side panel off in the future and trying to make the electrical with that hollow look as well, maybe a nicer custom made exhaust and the bike will be perfection in my taste… ⚜️⚜️✌️✌️✌️
Love from India. Please make a video for Royal Enfield. Specially for Super meteor 650.
ua-cam.com/video/qfCAwG3nkvY/v-deo.html
The front cylinder exhaust header starts and stops and is a bit jarring on the eye. The old version swept down and linked up with the one from the rear cylinder before continuing on to the muffler.
I really like the stiling and the tech. But it is way to expansive! It's starting at 10.500€ in Germany...
I had a 2015 Icon Red & had a a 2021 Nightshift, the difference there in riding also very experiencable, looking at this new Icon it's probably the modernisation it needed, to be accessible for the Digital Natives who love 'older' stuff.
Not enough, I want more tech. I hate how bike manufacturers complain not enough younger people are getting in to biking, while continuing to sell old technology at premium prices. Getting on a bike is like owning an Iphone 4. Ducati make some good strides and are one of the better ones I think
Since you had an icon and nightshift which one has a better riding position for street riding and some highway? Which one would you pick out of the 2023?
Hi love your walk around of the Ducati scrambler full of tech info great detail really useful .I like the new spec really good with a few reservations I don’t think the exhausts look as good and possibly the tank changes will take a little getting used to but a fantastic upgrade … I purchased a new 2022 Icon it’s now 4 months old ! Scramblers are just great bikes . I really like the scrambler 1100 sport pro that’s really cool .
I'm glad Ducati keeps their eye on reducing weight
At last... COLORS on a bike! The 4 less kgs is always something welcome too. (not sure about the new dashboard either, though...)
The old dials were better. However, I like the styling. Nice to see it’s ride by wire now. Still prefer my triumph scrambler 1200xe, I think the ducatis are low on power for the segment.
The Triumph 900 Scrambler is less powerful than the Ducati 800
The Nightshift might finally be the one! Cool dark blue!
I prefer less tech and dependence on electronics, but this is the future I guess.
I agree that the retro look is being lost but it seems some of the tech and the mapping will be good! And the blue tank options are appealing...
now it really looks like a Monster 797
Liked the old model , but liking the new model even more.
Will there be a new gen 1100 ?
That *Storm Green* colour option is raaather nice! 👌🏻
@ 2:22
I just got the icon dark 2023 and mine still looks like the old models
Creo que me quedaré con mi scrambler full trothell 2015 por el momento no me incomoda está nueva versión pero adoro el anterior. Buen vídeo.
Wow, new nightshift model I like. Seems like its time to sell my old Icon and get new one.
it's like the muffler shop was late to the design party !!!!
Looks great. If you want a true retro get a Bonnie. If you want modern retro get a scrambler
Is there any retro bikes out there that could actually do adventure riding duties? I have both a BMW 1200GS and Husqvarna 701 but I could use the low seat height of the retro bikes. I’m 73 and trying to ride as long as I can.
I have the Nightshift 2020.. Still better than the new one imo.
Interesting new manufacutrers.
Until now I have never heard of these Jiukatie Motocycles.
Desert sled disappeared?
No sled on the stand but I’m not sure if that means they dropped it
@@motobob thanks for answering, ill ask them myself on saturday
I'm happy to see a more modern vibe in the Scrambler styling, and I like the tech aids. The price is also reasonable for a Ducati. I'd seriously consider the Icon as my next bike.
Make a video about the royal enfield super meteor 650...
Done my dude! Check the channel
Looks a lot like the CL-X 700 I just put a deposit on. A 2022 under $6K OTD!
You forgot to mention the quick shifter feature on this new bikes!
Inflation and raw materials costs as well as higher wages all causes increased MSRP.
Tough competition with the new Caballero 700
Thanks.
Please check out the Brixton as well
love the new look and dash, hate the new price!
Why is the oil filter placed at the absolute most vulnerable place?
Isn’t a bit silly?
I prefer the cheaper xitytwo version. Fuel prices increase, so it is better to reduce the displacement with hybrid or electric motocycles .❤❤
Cow horn handlebars! How much were they
A Nightshift would look great alongside my Multi V2S…
Did they drop the desert sled and the Urban Motard
I can appreciate how nice/beautiful Ducatis are, and the myth of the brand. But desmo valves are still kind of frustrating as the "pinnacle" brand of motorcycling. Anything non desmo would be good.
but then, its not really ducati. I get it. Still...
I loved the old style, sorry to see the modernized scrambler😢
Thanks for the Eicma coverage 😊, not a big fan of the new styling on the Scrambler.
I think the header pipe stands out too much
Hi, could you show us the Diavel V4 in EICMA please
Last generation models were much more better looking
I'm going to paste here, what I already wrote under Ducatis own video on the new Scramblers:
Let's hope they don't fuck up the update of the Desert Sled in half a year or so. The new exhaust routing is nice. I preferred the old headlight. Also don't like the plastic tank cover and the like, looks a bit cheap. But seems like one can just take that off. I was a fan of the side mounted rear shock, but especially on the Desert Sled it got in the way when standing up. Likely they'll fix that. Unfortunately 13,5l for the tank on a Desert Sled is a bit weak, but they will very likely use the same tank as the other models again. The display honestly looks absolutely horrendous, could've integrated that nicer. The graphics on the display are fine, just the physical form of the display looks absolutely stupid. I quite liked the old round off center two-color LCD. Unfortunately the service interval couldn't be increased like on the latest Multistradas, 12.000 km is very weak compared to the 30.000 km the Multistradas get, and they are much higher strung motors. Let's be real, having the Desmodromic valve system on a bike that revs to 10.000 rpm is frankly ridiculous.
Let's see what they'll be doing with the Desert Sled, but I'll probably be buying the current model, not this new one, whenever it might come out.
Looks like the RE Scram 411. They’ve tried too hard. The best one they do is the Scrambler Desert Sled in blue with the high mudguards etc.
So the 1100 lineup is no more ? 🤔
Doesnt look like a scrambler, not even Neo Retro. Just looks like a toned down Naked Bike imho
I prefer what they did with the 400 sixty two in the way of the exhaust system as 1/ It kept the heat away from your legs. 2/ You could service the cam belts without taking the header pipes off. It also means if you can't service the bike yourself that it makes your service cost a lot cheaper when it comes to replacing the belts as the job is a lot quicker & easier without having to remove headers. I think that the tyre looks too big for the bike, the same with previous 803cc scrambler's. It doesn't need a tyre that wide, & I feel it simply adds unnecessary weight & cost to a new tyre. The tyre size is very odd & so the choices for tyre options are limited & expensive. I would have liked to have seen an off road mode as well, especially seen as how it's going to be compared to the 900 Triumph Scrambler off road. The Ducati's edge is it's much lighter weight than the Triumph but I feel it does need an off road mode as with the low gearing the Ducati is a hand full off road. I think having some adjustability in the suspension height would add some flexibility with suspension height depending on the height of the rider. The Scrambler classic seat height suited me but I found the Desert Sled too high. I could have gone to 830mm at most to gain some extra travel in some situations. No one has yet come up with ride height adjustment at the press of a button, that I know of. I think if the new TFT is more legible then I'm all for it. The old round instrument was confusing with rev counter going in reverse & I could just read the ambient temperature & clock. If it packs more information & is more easily read (bigger), then I'm all for it. Us oldies don't want to have to wear glasses just to see what's on the instrument cluster-ie: see the time for next coffee stop. lol
I rode a DS at ragley hall and it was like a toy (in the worst ways) I find it a very feminine bike also (small, dinky) I love ducati tech and how they are pushing with that, I would expect more from the 900 engine though, on the test ride it rode like a 500, my XSR700 felt much better. I wish yamaha would make a much better XSR than they do, I want all the MT tech and 'design language' but in an XSR body. Trident comes a little closer, I am waiting for what I hope will come which is a 660 scrambler from Triumph, But i'll ride one of these and if it is more for adults and more aggressive in styling, position and engine then maybe.
The Italians are great engineers and designers, even though I want a Diavel.
But I noticed many companies try to copy Ducati, especially Triumph.
I love it. I like the full throttle edition best but they are overpriced.
Until they give up the Desmo and make maintenance more accessible I can not recommend any Ducati. It's like punishing the customer for their support. It's bad practice and there is no reason for them to keep it up other than extortion.
No Hayabusa coverage?
looks good in general but i would not buy it just because of the dash.
Look's good
Fantic Caballero 700 is coming.Rip Ducati scrambler.
What do you guys have against the letter T
Yep that’s really bad.. on the other hand, thanks for the back to back videos from eicma. You must be burning the midnight oil like crazy.