When I worked as a prison officer I had a chat to a fella who specialised in stealing firearms to sell to other criminals. He said he would usually park across the road from a gun store and follow cars home and come back to break into the house and safe when no one was home. Same same with gun clubs he would just follow cars that leave the range and break into the house at a later stage 😣
That is exactly what happened to me. Good thing though, grubs are not overly smart, him and his brother left their finger prints & DNA at my place as well as their slimy mugs on the security camera. Cops had them and a shitload of their mates within a couple of weeks as well as all my guns back.
They are also sticking apple i-tag type devices under cars - before you get home pull over and have a look. My mate found a "Tile" attached under his chassis with a magnet. Handed it into Heidelberg police never heard back
I might just add to your video mate.. If you own a single cab ute you can store the firearms behind the seat but they must be covered and out of sight of the public an ammunition must be also covered.. when I first got my license I couldn't find anything on the law about transporting in a ute without a lock box on the tray, I had to call weapons licensing several times to find someone who knew what the law was .
This is the problem with Australian firearms laws they are so open to the individual coppers "interpretation". Always email weapons licensing and get it in WRITING don't take anyone else's opinion as fact cause thats eventually gonna cause ya problems. Even if the advice you get from the internet is true and correct it can cost a shiteload to prove that in the bullshite system we have. 👍🍻🇦🇺
In the good old days, we had a gun rack behind our heads in the ute. Occasionally we carried them unloaded - most guys left the mag in the rifle and sometimes one would be left in the breach accidently. No one cared back then.
@@armingthenationfirearmstra1942 - I watched an Australian video on life back in the 1930s and 1940s where a young man took his rifle on the tram to go target shooting at his local shooting club and no one cared.
@@armingthenationfirearmstra1942 - I can remember when K-Mart had a gun shop in the centre of the store. As long as you could prove you were 18yrs you could buy both the gun and ammo and just walk out with it. If you were under 18, you had to take a Guardian (usually a parent or an uncle) in order to purchase it. They had no issues selling a gun to a minor as long as the minor had adequate supervision.
@@PORSCHE_COUNTRY. - I heard that Switzerland has compulsory national service. What is really cool is that after you complete your national service, you keep your uniform and your firearm and ammunition in your home. You are encouraged to use the military rifle for practice but each round must be documented and accounted for. The reason is in case of a national emergency or attack, they have a reserve of "trained" men who are already fully armed (once they get home) and ready for service.
You don’t speak for all of us Australians bloke,when it comes to firearms what do you expect us to do huh ? We have to abide by the rules set out otherwise firearms will get confiscated,the government is using all the tricks in the book to take our firearms from us-even traffic infringements or drunk and disorderly behaviour can get your firearm license revoked. Under the “ fit and proper person act “ they can take our gun licences from us for the most bs things you wouldn’t believe. One guy I know lost his gun license because he had a street fight with another guy in self defence,when it went to court the judge took his firearm license from him because he was ruled unfit to carry a gun licence ! So give us a break ok,we’re dealing with the most ridiculous gun laws ever. Must be on your best behaviour at all times or risk losing your licenses.
As a side note to the security. If you are pulled over by the police with firearms in the car and they ask you to get out of the car to look at something, LOCK the car and DO NOT leave an unlicensed passenger in the car as both you and your passenger can be charged with insecurity or being in possession of an unlicensed firearm. Can't happen??? I know of 2 separate cases of it happening in the Brisbane area.
@@jamesrowlands8971 Ya not wrong, the only way around it is to get everybody out of the car and lock it or refuse to leave the firearms insecure. The other way is to ask the cop if they are "asking or ordering you to get out of the car", if it's an order, then your safe, even if they charge you.
Good video, but just need to clarify a few things. Your ammo does NOT have to be in a locked container in QLD, or in the original box during transport. You can transport it in the car in any container so long as the vehicle is locked, this constitutes a "contained place". So long as it is not in open view obviously, and with big highlighted signs saying what it is !! So glove box is fine or behind the seat even. Now the blanket bit in the boot, although a good idea, (and yes I do similar things as well, but this is because I have a ute with no canopy so have to transport on the backseat) but you should not need this as a matter of fact, with the reason you gave. "Going into a servo etc..." The law states you cannot leave any vehicle unattended with firearms within/on/present etc. AT ALL. So you cannot leave to go into a servo while the car is not attended by someone who is licensed. Just wanted to make these clarifications.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Thats the very problem. You can't. You would have to have some kind of safe, or lockable container that fits the laws here which is not just a plastic box with a padlock btw... and keep that in your room with you, as the best option. But that's still not legal as the "container" must be made of steel, and fixed to the floor or wall studs. The best option is use the hotel safe in the room. But obviously, not possible with longarms !! Here in Lies our dilemma in QLD... 😮💨
there is a lot of gray areas to the laws mate i wish it was all the same in the states. this video is only for my students in the safety course to help them understand the way to transport as an example for them.
@@armingthenationfirearmstra1942 It's a PITA that the laws aren't national. I have no doubt that you advise your students of that fact. If you're crossing state lines, you've got to know their laws. And now that I think about it, it would probably pay me to visit the local constabulary and ask them if there have been any changes to ours. I'm lucky where I live. The police don't mind firearms at all.
common sense stuff for most gun owners great video ' i dont have gun or ammo related stickers of any sort on my car either ' yes i am a do gooder when it comes to giving coppers ammo (pardon the pun)
The idea is if someone breaks in and steals the gun it makes it harder to load the damn thing. This is also the same people who banned silencers on, and I quote, "guns are loud and you want peoplw to hear if one is being fired nearby". Don't expect much sense from the rules.
I have a question: You have a break action shotgun that came with its own gun bag that you can lock. That gunbag fits into a normal backpack you can also lock. A small lockbox for ammo also fits into the larger backpack. So technically the ammo is seperate because its locked and the gun is double locked and out of sight. Can I legally carry this setup on a motorcycle to the range? No one is willing to give me an answer not even the guy I did the course with.
These locks are useless. They can be picked in just a few seconds. There are similar laws here in Canada. These laws have not reduced any gun crimes. Just made it so the police can charge the gun owner with more BS regulatory offences. At my summer home I have video of a 500 KG grizzly walking past my workshop door, I keep a gun handy!
The locks are only to make the politicians feel important and as if they have done something. All smoke and mirrors to appease the public that doesn’t have a clue.
If anything your making it easier for the thief to steal them. You place all the guns in one spot, in bags that clearly outline the shape of a gun, and have nice colors that stand out.
@@PBST_RAIDZ it’s micromanagement of a perceived problem that does exist. Honestly what should take 15 minutes to get ready to go to the range takes 45 minutes to make sure you comply with everything to the exact requirements. Yet it’s alright for a newspaper in Western Australia to put on the front page of its rag to location of registered firearm owners and no criminal charges were laid against them. NSW data base was hacked, or so I was told, but no denial from the NSW government. If criminals want guns they get them, simple.
If going on a overnight road trip and live in a motel, should I bring the firearm with me to the motel room for the night ? or leave the firearm locked inside the car in the motel car park ?
Honestly mate don't take advice from here on UA-cam email weapons licensing and get their response IN WRITING because we can all give you an answer but one cop interpreting the act differently can really fck you up.👍🍻🇦🇺
@@Spacegoat92 If it is in a locked container, that container must be secured to the vehicle. By secure I mean, bolted or chain/cable and lock. The spare wheel well, it is out of sight, but is NOT secure. The unauthorized person would still have access to it.
How do you go about getting a gun license in Queensland. Me my son went into local gun shop in Margate, walk around for like over an hour. I tried to get the attention of the workers there, but either they were busy with other customers or talking amongst each other. Cheers Graham
I remember getting a flyer in the mail "politely" asking gel blaster owners to register with the police, i thought fuck that, the onky reason i have a gel blaster is because i dont need to jump through all these stupid bloody hoops. Even thats no fun anymore, used to set up a backyard range and have the mates over, but all it would have taken is one karen and bloody cops would have swarmed.... over gel blasters lol Good on all you people maintaining licences though it must be a pain in the ass to do just to enjoy the hobby
There was a time I wanted to visit Australia but since Covid and how the government handled it I’ve reconsidered. Life is good in the free state of South Carolina.
2:08 and that's how I lost what looks to be the same bolt for my 22mag 20 years ago 🤬 6:56 people in car: and that's another place where common sense got lost :( Strange how cars kill/harm more people than gums
Do you realise this is in Australia dude ? We have bs firearm laws here and this guy is telling people in Australia what to do because if you get caught not following the laws the cops will take your firearms off you in a snap.
Uhhhhh.... Check out your gun violence/death rates in the US ....thoughts and prayers dude. Don't worry though, we here in Australia are able to own guns, but to do so, we must be responsible with them. Any eligible license holder (not a crook), who can show a lawful cause for ownership and promise to store the guns/ammo safely, can have access to most types, except semi/full auto. Although, some states in Australia do vary, so long as you're a member of the right clubs, you can own a wide variety of guns here. I much prefer to know that most violent crooks and suburban psychopaths will find it much more difficult to possess guns here, especially semi and full auto rifles, than they do in the 'land of the free', where it's pretty much open season on humans all year round.
Another excellent video that gives the facts without hype and drama. I have subscribed to your channel.
When I worked as a prison officer I had a chat to a fella who specialised in stealing firearms to sell to other criminals. He said he would usually park across the road from a gun store and follow cars home and come back to break into the house and safe when no one was home. Same same with gun clubs he would just follow cars that leave the range and break into the house at a later stage 😣
explains why people are finding "air tag" devices under their cars when they are members of gun clubs
That is exactly what happened to me. Good thing though, grubs are not overly smart, him and his brother left their finger prints & DNA at my place as well as their slimy mugs on the security camera.
Cops had them and a shitload of their mates within a couple of weeks as well as all my guns back.
They are also sticking apple i-tag type devices under cars - before you get home pull over and have a look. My mate found a "Tile" attached under his chassis with a magnet. Handed it into Heidelberg police never heard back
Yep. Heard of this happening years ago. This is why I constantly look for cars following, and I take different routes to the club or range every time.
@@DT-ge8gdParanoia is total awareness of your surroundings.
I might just add to your video mate.. If you own a single cab ute you can store the firearms behind the seat but they must be covered and out of sight of the public an ammunition must be also covered.. when I first got my license I couldn't find anything on the law about transporting in a ute without a lock box on the tray, I had to call weapons licensing several times to find someone who knew what the law was .
This is the problem with Australian firearms laws they are so open to the individual coppers "interpretation". Always email weapons licensing and get it in WRITING don't take anyone else's opinion as fact cause thats eventually gonna cause ya problems. Even if the advice you get from the internet is true and correct it can cost a shiteload to prove that in the bullshite system we have. 👍🍻🇦🇺
I do too. And had the same grief. Just responded above with some answers to this video.
Lock box on the tray must be made of metal and securely attached to the car and no sticker or brands on box to say a firearm is in there
In the good old days, we had a gun rack behind our heads in the ute.
Occasionally we carried them unloaded - most guys left the mag in the rifle and sometimes one would be left in the breach accidently.
No one cared back then.
were great times back then mate
@@armingthenationfirearmstra1942 - I watched an Australian video on life back in the 1930s and 1940s where a young man took his rifle on the tram to go target shooting at his local shooting club and no one cared.
@@armingthenationfirearmstra1942 - I can remember when K-Mart had a gun shop in the centre of the store. As long as you could prove you were 18yrs you could buy both the gun and ammo and just walk out with it. If you were under 18, you had to take a Guardian (usually a parent or an uncle) in order to purchase it. They had no issues selling a gun to a minor as long as the minor had adequate supervision.
@@armingthenationfirearmstra1942 Vote the gun haters out of office would be my suggestion.
@@PORSCHE_COUNTRY. - I heard that Switzerland has compulsory national service. What is really cool is that after you complete your national service, you keep your uniform and your firearm and ammunition in your home. You are encouraged to use the military rifle for practice but each round must be documented and accounted for. The reason is in case of a national emergency or attack, they have a reserve of "trained" men who are already fully armed (once they get home) and ready for service.
Rules rules rules the city Australian's favourite thing
from the most easy going to the most overregulated country on earth in less than a lifetime
@@markfrombriz I was not alive to experience old Australia. Now I can only watch ad we decay even further
You don’t speak for all of us Australians bloke,when it comes to firearms what do you expect us to do huh ? We have to abide by the rules set out otherwise firearms will get confiscated,the government is using all the tricks in the book to take our firearms from us-even traffic infringements or drunk and disorderly behaviour can get your firearm license revoked. Under the “ fit and proper person act “ they can take our gun licences from us for the most bs things you wouldn’t believe. One guy I know lost his gun license because he had a street fight with another guy in self defence,when it went to court the judge took his firearm license from him because he was ruled unfit to carry a gun licence ! So give us a break ok,we’re dealing with the most ridiculous gun laws ever. Must be on your best behaviour at all times or risk losing your licenses.
No need to remove the bolt here in SA. its important to note to follow your states regulations.
@@jasoar1563 such a stupid rule. What do you do with a pump gun.
Thanks Aaron I love your no bull approach clear and precise guidelines easy to understand
This must only apply to Australia 🇦🇺 when I got pulled over the cop just asked you going to the shooting range?
thank you for video for detail as great know are the laws and rules here in australia
Great video. Very informative.
Thanks
As a side note to the security.
If you are pulled over by the police with firearms in the car and they ask you to get out of the car to look at something, LOCK the car and DO NOT leave an unlicensed passenger in the car as both you and your passenger can be charged with insecurity or being in possession of an unlicensed firearm.
Can't happen??? I know of 2 separate cases of it happening in the Brisbane area.
That's a tricky situation.
@@jamesrowlands8971 Ya not wrong, the only way around it is to get everybody out of the car and lock it or refuse to leave the firearms insecure.
The other way is to ask the cop if they are "asking or ordering you to get out of the car", if it's an order, then your safe, even if they charge you.
Wow these are some beautiful firearms. Really love those lever actions, but that first break action is georgous.
Good video, but just need to clarify a few things. Your ammo does NOT have to be in a locked container in QLD, or in the original box during transport. You can transport it in the car in any container so long as the vehicle is locked, this constitutes a "contained place". So long as it is not in open view obviously, and with big highlighted signs saying what it is !! So glove box is fine or behind the seat even. Now the blanket bit in the boot, although a good idea, (and yes I do similar things as well, but this is because I have a ute with no canopy so have to transport on the backseat) but you should not need this as a matter of fact, with the reason you gave. "Going into a servo etc..." The law states you cannot leave any vehicle unattended with firearms within/on/present etc. AT ALL. So you cannot leave to go into a servo while the car is not attended by someone who is licensed. Just wanted to make these clarifications.
So what are you supposed to do if you stop at a hotel or motel overnight?
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Thats the very problem. You can't. You would have to have some kind of safe, or lockable container that fits the laws here which is not just a plastic box with a padlock btw... and keep that in your room with you, as the best option. But that's still not legal as the "container" must be made of steel, and fixed to the floor or wall studs. The best option is use the hotel safe in the room. But obviously, not possible with longarms !! Here in Lies our dilemma in QLD... 😮💨
@@DT-ge8gd I'm down in Victoria. We are allowed to store our firearms, out of sight in a locked car when we are away from home.
there is a lot of gray areas to the laws mate i wish it was all the same in the states. this video is only for my students in the safety course to help them understand the way to transport as an example for them.
@@armingthenationfirearmstra1942 It's a PITA that the laws aren't national. I have no doubt that you advise your students of that fact.
If you're crossing state lines, you've got to know their laws.
And now that I think about it, it would probably pay me to visit the local constabulary and ask them if there have been any changes to ours.
I'm lucky where I live. The police don't mind firearms at all.
common sense stuff for most gun owners great video ' i dont have gun or ammo related stickers of any sort on my car either ' yes i am a do gooder when it comes to giving coppers ammo (pardon the pun)
If they made it a capital offence to steal a firearm, there'd be zero crime.
4:42 the empty stubby in the seat pocket is also required for safe transport of firearms. :p
Love you work, very informative.
Just wondering why you say ammo in a locked box for transport. For storage, spot on. For transport????
The idea is if someone breaks in and steals the gun it makes it harder to load the damn thing. This is also the same people who banned silencers on, and I quote, "guns are loud and you want peoplw to hear if one is being fired nearby". Don't expect much sense from the rules.
Good vid mate. Simple and easy to understand
I have a question: You have a break action shotgun that came with its own gun bag that you can lock. That gunbag fits into a normal backpack you can also lock. A small lockbox for ammo also fits into the larger backpack. So technically the ammo is seperate because its locked and the gun is double locked and out of sight. Can I legally carry this setup on a motorcycle to the range? No one is willing to give me an answer not even the guy I did the course with.
These locks are useless. They can be picked in just a few seconds. There are similar laws here in Canada. These laws have not reduced any gun crimes. Just made it so the police can charge the gun owner with more BS regulatory offences. At my summer home I have video of a 500 KG grizzly walking past my workshop door, I keep a gun handy!
The locks are only to make the politicians feel important and as if they have done something. All smoke and mirrors to appease the public that doesn’t have a clue.
If anything your making it easier for the thief to steal them. You place all the guns in one spot, in bags that clearly outline the shape of a gun, and have nice colors that stand out.
@@PBST_RAIDZ don’t try to make sense of the laws that were made by people without a background in firearms or have ever owned one.
@@sticustom Clearly its about controlling and monitoring who has firearms to a ridiculous extent.
@@PBST_RAIDZ it’s micromanagement of a perceived problem that does exist. Honestly what should take 15 minutes to get ready to go to the range takes 45 minutes to make sure you comply with everything to the exact requirements. Yet it’s alright for a newspaper in Western Australia to put on the front page of its rag to location of registered firearm owners and no criminal charges were laid against them. NSW data base was hacked, or so I was told, but no denial from the NSW government. If criminals want guns they get them, simple.
I hope the course covers the difference between ''out of sight'' and ''concealed''?
If going on a overnight road trip and live in a motel, should I bring the firearm with me to the motel room for the night ? or leave the firearm locked inside the car in the motel car park ?
Honestly mate don't take advice from here on UA-cam email weapons licensing and get their response IN WRITING because we can all give you an answer but one cop interpreting the act differently can really fck you up.👍🍻🇦🇺
In vic, no can do...unless the hotel has a gunsafe or you have a gunsafe in your vehicle, dont do it..
I like to always bring with me into the hotel but depends on the situation
So regarding the fuel station scenario. What about if the guns are locked away in the boot? Can the person stay in the car then?
Only if they have NO access to the boot. Remember modern car boots can be accessed by folding the rear seat down.
@@wayne2584 How about if the container it's in is locked, or if say in a station wagon it's kept in the spare wheel well?
@@Spacegoat92 If it is in a locked container, that container must be secured to the vehicle. By secure I mean, bolted or chain/cable and lock.
The spare wheel well, it is out of sight, but is NOT secure. The unauthorized person would still have access to it.
as long as the unlicensed person has no access to the firearms
Thanks for the video mate, what state or states is this relevant?
This one is relevant to Queensland every state has different rules I use this video for training students when they do safety courses
Queensland
How do you go about getting a gun license in Queensland. Me my son went into local gun shop in Margate, walk around for like over an hour. I tried to get the attention of the workers there, but either they were busy with other customers or talking amongst each other. Cheers Graham
Go to your local range. SSAA regularly run courses also.
@@wm056660d thx mate
give my trainer a call in the sunshine coast he runs courses all the time down there Andrew 0458013820 he will be happy to help you mate
Hey y’all , I thought youse guys carried them locked on the roof of your truck in qld
Not allowed to make stops to and from the range in NSW. Gotta love Australia the nanny state.
What .. what rule number says this ??
When is your next video
My god mate, thank heavens you never had a gel blaster in there as the cops might have given you 25 to life. 😱😱😱
I thought they were still Legal in QLD
@jeremyschipp You don't require a permit in QLD for a gel blaster.
I remember getting a flyer in the mail "politely" asking gel blaster owners to register with the police, i thought fuck that, the onky reason i have a gel blaster is because i dont need to jump through all these stupid bloody hoops. Even thats no fun anymore, used to set up a backyard range and have the mates over, but all it would have taken is one karen and bloody cops would have swarmed.... over gel blasters lol Good on all you people maintaining licences though it must be a pain in the ass to do just to enjoy the hobby
Thanks mate, thar clears up a lot of confusion. Safety first.
So in SA you have to keep your nerf bullets in a separate container lmao
LOL Nerf Gun
that gun fire is trashed now do not allow
Your going to get in more trouble for having an open beer botttle in the car than for not having then actions broken on your firearms.
*You're & than.
My pistols won't go in box with broken action
Criminals will just be looking for a pink sleeping bag now. Lol.
Least they won't steal the pink blanket😂
If you’re on a long drive and have to stay in a hotel over night can you leave them locked in the car over night ?
That’s a good question ? I’d say yes unless you can lock them up in the motel room with a padlock and inside a cupboard.
There was a time I wanted to visit Australia but since Covid and how the government handled it I’ve reconsidered. Life is good in the free state of South Carolina.
@@phillipdewitt4454glad to know we don't have to worry about a nuffy from a country with less freedom than ours coming here. 😂😂
@darthphilfy you think your free here in Australia? Wow the delusion 😂😂😅
@@phillipdewitt4454
Best you stay there , you would not like our different brand of free
HES GOT A GUN! HES GOT GUN!
Is this advice relevant to Victoria?
always check each state mate
2:08 and that's how I lost what looks to be the same bolt for my 22mag 20 years ago 🤬
6:56 people in car: and that's another place where common sense got lost :(
Strange how cars kill/harm more people than gums
Motor vehicles were designed to transport. Deaths occur when things go wrong. Firearms were designed to…
So true about the cars. I guess they're more lethal because you can own an automatic. 😆
@@robbiet3a 🤣😂🤣
Gums kill!
Well there's the problem ....... you've got the wife in the car......wouldn't happen in my world veiw....🤔😂😎🇦🇺👌
Who leaves weapons in the boot of there car and goes shopping with there wife ?
Nice place for a empty stubble 😮😂
Each state has different laws.
Please stop saying Australian gun laws.
if you read the description it says in Queensland
Read the description!! Australian gun laws -Transporting Firearms In A Vehicle In "QUEENSLAND"!!!!!!!!
As an American the fact you have to do all of this just to take a gun to the range.
Meanwhile I can carry my gun with me wherever I go
you are lucky never give up your rights
I thought the Assies turned in all their weapons.
All the good ones
Nope, and we don't cook shrimp on bbq either
it was an amnesty where you could turn in illegal firearms IIRC. Anyone with the desire and cash can get a license and a firearm still.
@@CraftyMoonshineAnd a relatively clean record don't forget.
@@CraftyMoonshine A lot of old clunkers were handed in for handsome buy back prices , some people made a few bob out of it.
This is common sense , anyone that wouldnt do this , doesn't deserve to own a gun .
We should be free to open carry. Australia is such a police, control nanny state
Lol no, and be like 'Murica with a 600% higher homicide rate? :D
🇦🇺😎👍
Uhhhhh.... Not in most states in the United States....(Except the Dem run states) We carry cocked and loaded....all of them...
This is Australia we like not having criminals shooting each other in the street
Do you realise this is in Australia dude ? We have bs firearm laws here and this guy is telling people in Australia what to do because if you get caught not following the laws the cops will take your firearms off you in a snap.
@@AlexanderThomas-ox9riThey do that anyway despite the laws. Criminals don't obey laws.
@@AlexanderThomas-ox9riyet y’all allow eshays too stab the innocent … whatever fonem
Uhhhhh.... Check out your gun violence/death rates in the US ....thoughts and prayers dude.
Don't worry though, we here in Australia are able to own guns, but to do so, we must be responsible with them. Any eligible license holder (not a crook), who can show a lawful cause for ownership and promise to store the guns/ammo safely, can have access to most types, except semi/full auto.
Although, some states in Australia do vary, so long as you're a member of the right clubs, you can own a wide variety of guns here.
I much prefer to know that most violent crooks and suburban psychopaths will find it much more difficult to possess guns here, especially semi and full auto rifles, than they do in the 'land of the free', where it's pretty much open season on humans all year round.
duds
This dude like so many other super serious nerd weirdos are the reason I would never join a gun club.