I don't know anything about mixing or production, so have pity on the stiff performances. I know fully well this isn't actually movie-worthy sound. But hey, if you like this and would like to see more, let me know!
Pretty cool! The usage of the Hobbit music certainly fits LOTR too. No worries with mixing and production, it sounded absolutely clear (at least to me). Btw. is there any chance of Adams releasing The Music Of The Hobbit Films? (I didn't give up on it yet haha)
Got some chills when that French horn kicked off. Such a beautiful theme (my favorite personally from the trilogy), so hearing it again over old Bilbo's new adventure was such a touching moment.
The morphing of the two melodies is awesome. "Dreaming of Bag End" will always have a soft spot in my heart, so it was great to hear it incorporated into a scene from TLOTR.
Love this theme, and it works really well here, especially the French horn part! Well done! I think Bilbo’s theme actually plays around 3 times in Unexpected Journey, once when Gandalf talks to Bilbo in Bag End about having tales to tell, a few times when Bilbo officially joins the company on the borders of the Shire, and once in the extended version after Elrond’s conversation with Bilbo in Rivendell Still, I wish we got more of it in the later movies. That’s one weird aspect of the Hobbit score, Shore introduces some themes in the first movie that don’t return in the later ones (like Bilbo’s Theme, Misty Mountains, etc.) I’m curious as to why
Doug Adams has commented that "Dreaming of Bag End" has more appearances in The Hobbit trilogy than people think, they're just hidden variations so it's harder to tell. Personally, I hear a bit of the part of "Dreaming of Bag End" where it transitions to F major when Gandalf leaves the company and he says goodbye to Bilbo in Desolation of Smaug, and when Bilbo returns to Bag End and it's been ransacked in Five Armies. There's a solo cello playing the end of the theme when Gandalf says "But you're only quite a little fellow... in a wide world after all." As well as just before the ring material begins when Bilbo is about to touch the ring back in bag end. Also when Bilbo sees Gandalf in Five Armies for the first time you can hear the Took side of his theme play briefly in the strings.
Yeah I think I've heard about this, though admittedly I'm way less knowledgeableabout the intricaciesof the Hobbit scores. Perhaps I could've worded this better, that Bilbo's theme sadly didn't get such a center stage as you'd think his theme would.
@@monoverantus Fair enough. I even added a few inserts of the theme into the Tolkien edit of the Hobbit trilogy, as well as re-editing the Bilbo and Elrond scene to include the version that was supposed to play there, because it really did deserve more attention.
Be neat if somebody could pull a video together of all these moments (or if Doug would just share the secrets with us 😭). Bilbo's theme is my personal favorite, so hearing it so absent from the trilogy made me really sad.
Another thing that would have been cool is if Howard Shore kind of guessed that there could be a Prequel trilogy coming and incorporated the lonely mountain theme as it zooms in on the map He could have hinted at a mewlody which he could have developed in the hobbit
My understanding is that he did. When the shot zooms on the map we hear a figure awfully close to Thorin’s music. For years, Doug Adams said that when he asked Howard about that figure he would just grin…
@@silask.1966 That Howard would grin when asked about that passage is documented by Doug in many places, not the least of which are in his book and hte annotated scores. There's also an intriguing quote in Jackson's biography about how Howard embedded a piece from Balin's tomb (the rising scale that begins the piece) into the scene of the Dwarves arriving at Bag End. "The idea in his head was that one day they would be watched in chronological order and when the Fellowship arrives in the wonder of Dwarrowdelf it will trigger memories of Thorin and co." Shows you where Howard's mindset was at.
I don't know anything about mixing or production, so have pity on the stiff performances. I know fully well this isn't actually movie-worthy sound. But hey, if you like this and would like to see more, let me know!
Pretty cool! The usage of the Hobbit music certainly fits LOTR too. No worries with mixing and production, it sounded absolutely clear (at least to me). Btw. is there any chance of Adams releasing The Music Of The Hobbit Films? (I didn't give up on it yet haha)
@@trance_im_wald2907 No news, I'm afraid...
Got some chills when that French horn kicked off. Such a beautiful theme (my favorite personally from the trilogy), so hearing it again over old Bilbo's new adventure was such a touching moment.
The morphing of the two melodies is awesome. "Dreaming of Bag End" will always have a soft spot in my heart, so it was great to hear it incorporated into a scene from TLOTR.
Love this theme, and it works really well here, especially the French horn part! Well done!
I think Bilbo’s theme actually plays around 3 times in Unexpected Journey, once when Gandalf talks to Bilbo in Bag End about having tales to tell, a few times when Bilbo officially joins the company on the borders of the Shire, and once in the extended version after Elrond’s conversation with Bilbo in Rivendell
Still, I wish we got more of it in the later movies. That’s one weird aspect of the Hobbit score, Shore introduces some themes in the first movie that don’t return in the later ones (like Bilbo’s Theme, Misty Mountains, etc.) I’m curious as to why
Doug Adams has commented that "Dreaming of Bag End" has more appearances in The Hobbit trilogy than people think, they're just hidden variations so it's harder to tell.
Personally, I hear a bit of the part of "Dreaming of Bag End" where it transitions to F major when Gandalf leaves the company and he says goodbye to Bilbo in Desolation of Smaug, and when Bilbo returns to Bag End and it's been ransacked in Five Armies. There's a solo cello playing the end of the theme when Gandalf says "But you're only quite a little fellow... in a wide world after all." As well as just before the ring material begins when Bilbo is about to touch the ring back in bag end. Also when Bilbo sees Gandalf in Five Armies for the first time you can hear the Took side of his theme play briefly in the strings.
Yeah I think I've heard about this, though admittedly I'm way less knowledgeableabout the intricaciesof the Hobbit scores. Perhaps I could've worded this better, that Bilbo's theme sadly didn't get such a center stage as you'd think his theme would.
@@monoverantus Fair enough. I even added a few inserts of the theme into the Tolkien edit of the Hobbit trilogy, as well as re-editing the Bilbo and Elrond scene to include the version that was supposed to play there, because it really did deserve more attention.
Be neat if somebody could pull a video together of all these moments (or if Doug would just share the secrets with us 😭). Bilbo's theme is my personal favorite, so hearing it so absent from the trilogy made me really sad.
Very interesting, would love to see more!
Great stuff, man! Could see this become a very interesting series.
Gotta say, it was well worth it to learn MuseScore 4
@@monoverantus I can tell! Also, the Muse Sounds are so good now :D
Another thing that would have been cool is if Howard Shore kind of guessed that there could be a Prequel trilogy coming and incorporated the lonely mountain theme as it zooms in on the map He could have hinted at a mewlody which he could have developed in the hobbit
My understanding is that he did. When the shot zooms on the map we hear a figure awfully close to Thorin’s music. For years, Doug Adams said that when he asked Howard about that figure he would just grin…
@@חןגלר-ע7ז oh wow okay that’s interesting
@@חןגלר-ע7ז do you have a source for that?
@@silask.1966 That Howard would grin when asked about that passage is documented by Doug in many places, not the least of which are in his book and hte annotated scores.
There's also an intriguing quote in Jackson's biography about how Howard embedded a piece from Balin's tomb (the rising scale that begins the piece) into the scene of the Dwarves arriving at Bag End. "The idea in his head was that one day they would be watched in chronological order and when the Fellowship arrives in the wonder of Dwarrowdelf it will trigger memories of Thorin and co." Shows you where Howard's mindset was at.
@@חןגלר-ע7ז that’s honestly amazing!!
How did you produce that ringing sound which precedes the Seduction theme? Also great job on finally using Musescore 4! 💘
That's string harmonics.
will you analyse the hobbit ost
Short answer, no. Long answer can be found in the Q&A I did last year.
@@monoverantus cool