NOT As Good As They Say | Herman Miller Embody
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Check out my review of the Herman Miller Embody where I'll discuss the reasons why I'm sending it back.
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A lot of work? I am being genuine with this question--what exactly does it entail other than A. Owning a chair B. Sitting in it C. Talking to the camera D. Doing basic editing and uploading the video ?
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I believe the wobble is a defect on the specific embody chair you received. It took my body about 3 weeks to adjust to the embody. I had discomfort and pain to my lower back when sitting on the embody initially. I adjusted the seat so I had a 2 finger gap between my legs and the seat. The discomfort got to the point where I wanted to return the chair. Good thing I stuck it out and it's the best office chair I ever owned. I owned a herman miller aeron remastered prior to the embody. I feel like they are both about the same when it comes to ergonomics but the embody just gives you way more play and freedom to move around when sitting. You don't have the same freedom with the aeron based on the plastic and mesh design but the aeron is still a great chair. I would recommend taking advantage of the 30 day return policy herman miller offers. 1 weeks is not enough time to try out the chair and make a final conclusion in my honest opinion.
The extra padding on the lumbar/lower spine region of your Embody is exclusive to the *Logitech* gaming version of the chair. If you get the regular version of the Embody, it doesn't have that extra padding and many people find it far more comfortable. The extra padding is designed to promote a more upright posture and provide more lumbar support while leaning forward in the chair (like most people do while gaming intensely), but it can become uncomfortable over time if you sit normally. The two chairs are 95% the same, but the difference is enough that I've heard people say that the Gaming version of the Embody caused them back pain and the regular Embody fixed it.
I have the Logitech Embody right now and I'm considering exchanging it for the regular Embody because the I'm noticing the same slight discomfort in the lumbar region that you mentioned. It wouldn't necessarily be a deal breaker for me if the regular Embody didn't exist, but the price difference isn't enough to make me accept the compromise.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
I can concur. I tried the Logitech Embody one, but replaced it with a regular one. It's been six months now and I would never want another chair. Recently received the Atlas headrest (Herman Miller should've really given the Embody a headrest) and it's super relaxing to lounge in it now.
Hmm. This explains a lot. I tried both in the store and immediately preferred the gaming one because backrest was cushier (plus I liked the gaming colour scheme). But after sitting in it for longer I discovered the lumbar thing sticks into my lower back too much. I can't return the chair, so now have a blanket over the backrest. Even with this I can still feel it! I have also tried to sit more upright as ergonomists advise without your shoulder blades touching the seat back and the lumbar support on the chair is great for that; it's only when you lean back that it becomes an uncomfortable lump, which is exactly what you described.
nope. the regular embody got the extra padding as a silent upgrade a few years ago. there is no difference anymore beside the cooling think and astetics
Thanks for your review! Im looking for a good chair, but i dont have anywhere to try it out where i live. So it's always good to hear less hyped reviews and especially the issues and bad points general reviewers dont mention. I became concerned with the lower lombar pressure points. I guess i will listen to some more reviews.
You should try the Haworth Zody 2. I've tried many chairs, including the Embody, and the Zody 2 takes the cake.
I have to agree with you man… I’ve had the regular embody for a couple years, busted out my old leap V2 for fun and it made me realize the Embody causes me A LOT of pain, particularly in the lower back. I also hate how it makes my shoulders feel. Might buy another Aeron again, or try a Fern
I get why the Embody gets lots of high praise, but when I tried it myself, I found the backrest and seat way too thin and uncomfortable. I much prefer full mesh seats like the Aeron or the ErgoTune Supreme V3/Hinomi H1 Pro in Singapore. But great honest review man!
I’m a weight lifter and had the same issues. The soreness from the evo 2022 had me get an embody based on reviews and aesthetics…that didn’t work either and felt worse and then I finally landed on the the gaming Aeron. I can say the Aeron is the GOAT and solved all my lower back issues and provides my wide back amazing support. Does it look basic? Yes but Never looking back.
I might order an Aeron and a Sayl and keep whichever suits me best
Im in the same position. Its a very good chair but has to much flaws for me. Most of them are similiar to yours.
- Its noisy. On that part where u expand the size of the seat. Also the armrests have some spots where they make noises.
- The lumbar support is a little to aggressive for my taste, i cant adjust it directly. If i lean back with my shoulders more then the lumbar is even more aggressive.
- Also i feel a little pressure under my legs sometimes.
I got a 800€ used Aeron fully equiped and am happy now. Feels like sitting on a cloud and zero noise. Also better armrests.
The embody could be the best chair for me if i could adjust more stuff especially the lumbar part.
Sent mine back too, it looks cool but is not comfortable at all especially after a long day away from it. Have a haworth soji now and it's very comfy
What is the best chair for someone who works and games in the same setup? Also you recommend any good ergonomic desks ? I liked and subscribed as well.
Appreciate the sub! After this video I ended up sticking with my Secretlab and use it to this day. I've tried a number of chairs and keep coming back to it. Honestly any electric desk will work I think it depends on your budget and whatever aesthetic you like. Flexispot has some good options. Check my recent video on the Secretlab chair for more.
Thanks for the non-hype vid! Currently choosing between this and the Haworth Fern. After trying out the Fern at a local dealer I’m definitely leaning towards it.
I try to remain unbiased in every video I do, except when I really like the product lol
Did you end up getting the fern? Curious because im on the same boat between the fern and the embody
@@Droskee650 I did but I’m unfortunately returning it. In recent weeks I’ve also tested out all the Herman Miller chairs as well. The Embody was nice, but a bit underwhelming for my personal back support needs (I was much more impressed by the Mirra 2 w/ butterfly mesh). That said I’m going back to my trusty Steelcase Leap for good.
Reasons the Fern didn’t work out for me:
1. The seat material was way too harsh. I work in shorts so it was like sitting on hay.
2. The arm rests aren’t flat like Steelcase, and they lean back with the chair. I knew this going into it, but didn’t realize how much I’d dislike it.
3. The front of the seat pan isn’t very flexible and that led to some knee pain
My EVO has the same pivoting issue where it feels like the chair doesn't sit on the piston correctly. It is a problem all my chairs seem to eventually get and why I am even looking at Herman Miller options.
I hope the Sayl worked out for you. After years of wrestling with chairs, I've finally settled on alternating between a Haworth Fern and a Steelcase Leap V2. They're both great. For me though, the Fern is the most comfortable chair I've ever sat in, by far. Throw an Atlas Headrest on and it's pure perfection.
Have you had any comparison vs the regular Embody? I found many comments that point out some differences that may indicate its the better chair for your needs
I haven't tried the regular, would be nice if I could go somewhere local and try them out
I’ve tried lots of chairs and the Fern to me is what I’ve settled on
Foam roll before and after on your quads and piriformis. Lookup foam rolling techniques. I have the exact by description, your same issue and this was a game changer. First thing in the AM, hit it. Flare up in the lower back, hit it. You'll be amazed in how after 5-10 minutes, gone. Get a stiff foam roller but not the one with the large spikes. At least not yet.
In regards to the chair, 9 months have past so you're probably done. I'd say try out the Logitech Gaming Embody version if the cost is ok. It's much, not too much but yeah, better than the normal embody.
How did you find the Sayl chair? I noticed that there hadn't been a follow up video so was curious
I canceled my order. I have like 4 chair reviews pending with more on the way. Might reorder later
@@JacobDarkOfficial Thanks. So I am assuming you have stuck with the Secret lab for now then? I just need a heavier weight rated chair and the Titan seems one of few quality built ones out there but there are a lot of mixed reviews out there and was curious where you were at with it.
@michaelwinter5292 Correct, still use Secretlab to this day. I've found the leatherette to be more comfortable than the softweave. If you prefer softweave I'd recommend buying leatherette and buying a skin to put over. If you decide to buy I'd SUPER appreciate you using my link, it should be the 2nd link in the description
@@JacobDarkOfficial Thanks that is a good idea.
The reason why the sayl is never mentioned is because the backrest is extremely small. If you're over 5'8 and/or with large shoulders, you'll rest on the outer frame of it, which makes it very uncomfortable. I would recommend the Verus any time of the day
Interesting, guess I never noticed since I'm 5'6, time will tell
Yeah, agree with that. Sayl is awful for me . I'm1.83m (6'0). My upper back doesn't touch at all the backrest
Howdy, not related to the Herman Miller chair, but to the secret lab chair: do you have the largest size? Im between 5’11” and 6’0” and ~290 lbs with reasonably wide hips. It’s hard cause I wish I could sit in it and confirm between the largest and the medium size. How amazing are the memory foam arm rests as well? Thanks for the review videos!
I'm short man, Small on the chair, if you have wide hips I'd go for the larger size as the seat size gets bigger with each size up. Hope that helps, if it does consider using my link to help the channel! I highly recommend the Plushcell armrests, they're like fuzzy marshmellows
I trust your reviews unlike alot of others on the tube . I always feel you give an honest review and say what you really feel regardless of pricing and hype.
Appreciate that! I definitely try to keep it as real and honest as possible
i was complaining about my remastered aeron but then i sat in both the embody and aeron. and,..... idk how the embody has such good reviews. the seat sucks. feels kinda cheap. the aeron was more comfortable, felt like one piece but i still have my complaints. i move around a lot at my desk so i tend to get out of the position that the aeron wants me to be in which does lead to hip/low back pain sometimes. i always find myself having to scooch back into the seat and reset. ya the seat is slippery so i end up too forward a lot. i think my ass prefers softer fabric seat cushions. the aeron is good for 30 minutes then i want something comfortable for long term use. the embody looks 10/10 but comfort wise. its 4/10. the aeron is like a 6/10 if im being active at my desk, but if im just lounging in it and leaning back a little its a 8.5/10
I tried both the embody and aeron and ended up keeping the aeron.
The thing I hate about this chair is the rounded top. It pushes your shoulders forward and only way to "fix" this issue is to loosen the front knob all the way and recline back
Gaming Embody has more open shoulders. One of the two differences. The gaming Embody is a better chair.
@@ScooterMakGavin I have the gaming embody
The leap v2 with the headrest is the best
I had a Leap V2 for a while but it was old and used so I eventually sold it. Might be worth taking a look at again.
alot of people say they prefer the haworth fern over the embody !
Is the refund free or do you need to cover £49 for the shipment back?
It’s none of your business
Yeah you're responsible for returning it so there's that fee
I couldn't use Embody because of the upper side of the backrest curve. It is just not comfortable at all around my shoulder blades - the hard edges with that inward curve at the top are way too pronounced. It is even worse when reclining in the chair. Logitech version is truly horrible, OMG that plastic noise - often mentioned in the review too, but more like "no big deal". LOL no, it is actually a big deal cause it is noisy AF. Additional cushion on the backrest also ruins the purpose of the chair entirely - they want you to sit in exactly ONE position and even that does not work on Logitech version very well.
People shorter than me (I am 6"1) are also out of luck here; you correctly mentioned that the retracted seat adds pressure to your thighs (GL with varicose when you are older). It is actually the same issue as with Mirra 2. And Cosm. Surprisingly, it is not the case with Aeron.
your chair is broke mine doesn't do that, also it was not comfortable at first. but once i found the right adjustment and the more i sat in it the more comfortable it became! it might take a month for you to get use to a proper chair! especially if you come for a bad chair!
Yea I thought it might be. Funny thing is I tried this chair because my Secretlab was too firm but then after sending the Embody back began to feel comfortable in my Secretlab which I'm still using to this day with no issue lol. 🤷♀
it is difficult to impossible to find reviewers not pushed down the algorithm because it doesn't protect their precious brand's money;.
Chair seat wobble is not normal - seems like the embody that you got is a bit defective, unfortunately
Noted, thanks
This is the only chair I haven't had tailbone discomfort. (Logitech x Herman Miller Embody)
What does tailbone discomfort even mean? I'm not sure if I experienced that before
@@jakebrowning2373Aka you are not getting tired of sitting on it
It's funny seeing how everyone shits on gaming chairs (secretlab) and then buys this overpriced stuff. not even a headrest.
I would be curious for you to try Razer Enki. Seems like great secretlab competitor.
I'll see if I can get my hands on it
That lower back pain IS BULGING DISK, DISK PROTRUSION OR HERNIATED DISK!!! GO TO YOUR DOCTOR NOW! GO TO A PHYSIOTHERAPIST! GET THIS FIXED BEFORE IT GETS OUT OF HAND! And yeah, the Embody doesn't have a dedicated lumbar support (that's the lower part of your back! The part that's hurting! Please go research this!) Maybe don't go for the Sayl but for a Fern or Gesture! Your lower back will thank you!
Interesting that they will let someone sit on it for a week or more and then take it back and sell it to someone else…
Most companies have a return policy, wouldn't be surprised if I've bought "new" in the past that was actually slightly used
@@JacobDarkOfficial oh for sure - but it’s not a desk, or a filing cabinet, your ass is literally going to sweat into the fabric, it’s more akin to returning underwear or earrings. At this price point you’d expect a little more from them to refresh the product, $1500 for a weeks worth of someone else’s guffs and sweat 😂
@@yippykayak5842I can't return mine in Shanghai, so I'm guessing if you return they send it back to the factory and clean or even replace the fabric and take the hit in the their sky high prices.
I just picked up an embody at the Herman Miller outlet store in Zeeland, MI. It's very near their large chair factory. They sell used chairs for roughly half price (with no warranty or returns). I'm guessing returned items get sold there. My chair was half price and the manufacture date on the label was December of 2023, so it is two months old.
I have owned one for eight years looks almost new. I had a lot of replacement arms (button issue) but they provided new ones and fitted them at home.
They are now giving me a new chair after eight years because of the arm button issue which is immense. Worth every single penny. It was purchased to help cure my severe sciatica and that's exactly what it did. I have tried every chair on the market in this range never found a better one. You did get a defect I owned 3 of them they don't move the way you experienced. Embody hands down best chair from someone who has tried all competitors in this category never had any comfort issue after the one to two month getting used to its lumber support.
Getting a new chair after 8 years is amazing, glad you got your sciatica taken care of
Which embody do you have, regular or gaming version?
I don't blame you it suck and aeron as well which I own a size c
no matter what chair you own, stand , walk stretch... cost nothing.. sit back down.. repeat.
Get a fern. I had an embody for years and just got a fern and it is so much better
I have a Sayl on order however if I end up unhappy with that too the Fern will be my next choice
it's just not for you. lol. i've been using the Logi Embody and i have nv been happier with the it.
i've used Steelcase Leap, Haworth Fern and now Embody. Best so far. I sell task chairs and HM Embody is my biggest competitor but i understand why home users love the Embody over others.
From it's build quality, ergonomics and aftersales, there nothing much you can ask for.
Pity you didnt fit the Embody, hope you eventually find a chair you might likely fit into better.
PS: any other office chair is superior to ANY tub style racing chair FFS.
I have a Sayl on order and am hopeful it'll be the one for me
@@JacobDarkOfficial Sayl cannot. It doesn't wear well overtime. The plastic backrest is not very ergo imo. And it's color wears badly over a period.
Try the SC Leap, HW Fern w/o lumber and headrest or Humanscale Freedom.
After Sayl maybe haha.
lifting weights is bad for you, do bodyweight exercises
I'm definitely adjusting things at my age