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I've wanted to take a couple of them apart with a hammer before when the two halves think they're one part. A bigger hammer usually solves that problem.
Dimitri Shevchenko is a bladesmith in Ukraine and does a lot of projects from different types of chain. He does incredible damascus patterns. Might be worth looking him up to see how he avoids occlusions. I don't think he makes canisters for the, so its probably a different technique. Cool change of pace video, beautiful pattern 🤝
I loved the disassembly portion of the video. I've been a mechanic for over 30 years and I can't tell you how many times I've felt like doing the same thing. Great pattern on the letter opener.
I really hope some of the newer guys to knifemaking that come across this video can take the real lesson from this video. Sure you can make a knife from recycled steel you can even make a really nice look knife from it but far more important when adversity rears its head you keep at it til you get where you want. Oftentimes when forging knives you come across obstacles and when they come up you keep pushing until you've overcome those obstacles. Thanks for sharing Elijah you did a great job and showed us your grit and determination.
The drum you cut apart is most likely cast iron or metal injection molded Ductile iron. The shafts are forged and case hardened 1050 or 1045 steel usually.
Definitely the best artisan use case for a crap t-case, other than busting them open for desk trinkets or recycling. Gears and bearing races are usually the safe bet or the shaft themselves. Chains can be 50/50, depending on the source manufacturer. I've got a few scrap-quality jet engine compressors that I've dedicated to using for various projects, as much as it pains me to hammering on them both from an engineering appreciation point, but moreso because they are so damn tough.
That doohickey is a transfer case. It bolts to the back of the transmission and splits power off and transfers it to both axles of the vehicle giving it four-wheel-drive. A torque converter goes in front of an automatic transmission and allows the engine to run with the vehicle stopped at a red light or whatever. It acts as a clutch between the engine and transmission.
A lot of things like shims and prop shafts are 1095, bearings are your 52100, gears can sometimes be 8160 or 4140- mid carbon, high impact steel, chains are sometimes 4140 or a 1070-1084 carbon steel. It various obviously and like any found steel there's bound to be some alloys or other weirdness thrown into the mix depending on the OEM. I think the chain with some higher nickel powdered steel might turn out really good too if you can get some.
Well, you have good fire starter in that magnesium casing. Bushcrafters love that stuff. And yea if youre goin to do canister with chain, ya need that powdered steel for the voids to weld. Chain makes amazing looking pattern welded blades. Im not as proficient at it myself as id like to be eventually.
I'm always interested in watching folks make blades out of mystery steel. Interesting experiment, but it reinforces my belief that my time is better spent with known steel. Thanks for sharing your process.
That powder makes all the difference. It’s nice to play around and try different things sometimes. I’ve been sitting on some chain and other stuff for a while, hoping to experiment with them. You could always San-Mai them with core steel of your choice. Great job, thanks for sharing
I wonder if you could drive a small round bar of steel in to the hollow part of the shaft you got from the transfer case and forge wield it into a solid bar then forge it in to a blade.
Junkyard steel series? Should be a good number of people who would watch since it's most common source of material for new smiths to play with and leaf springs aren't always available
While this video is entertaining, I’m positive that process was agonizing lol. I’m amazed at what a pretty letter opener resulted, though! I hope you don’t feel like you have to put yourself through this again. You make some incredible knives from much easier material!
I've wanted to take apart car parts with a big hammer so many times, but it makes it harder to put back together! 😂🤣 That transfer case didn't stand a chance.
Go for it! Most of the people experienced enough to do this are too stubborn to try, and the people adventurous enough to try are too inexperienced and under-tooled to do it. If you have PO box (or aren't too far from San Antonio) I have some unconventional canisters for canister Damascus that I'll give you
squaring dies. that chain will make a great looking knife but it has to be compressed on all sides. at least thats how i have done it before. its just my opinion though
@@FireCreekForge That's good to know. Newer auto parts are made out of all kinds of weird materials. Even if it is solid steel, it's probably not the kind that will forge weld. Probably better off at the scrap yard in this case.
well this is fun That chain looks like awesome stuff Do you have any use for thermite? For some reason I am really enjoying the hammer and dropping metal noises in this video....very satisfying noises that appeal some how some of those whacks with the sledgehammer sounded way cool. Sprocketmascus Now you can tell I comment as the video is ongoing lol and your fan sounds like an old biplane I like that, I think it was worth it...lot of work for a dagger type letter opener but still very cool . Great share thanksyou
@@FireCreekForge I kinda figured that. I actually first thought that maybe someone tried to get a lawsuit against you or UA-cam trying to say that watching damaged their eyes. Sad that's the world we live in but I've seen worse and things much more petty go through a court process.
If you don't what it is, how will you ever properly heat treat it.....???? are you just amusing it's 1095 1084 or whatever your powder mix is? even though it could be on your edge??
Never seen someone disassemble a transfer case with a hammer before....but i'm here for it...
I've wanted to take a couple of them apart with a hammer before when the two halves think they're one part. A bigger hammer usually solves that problem.
I believe the word you are looking for is obliterate 😂
I never knew I needed to see a dude smash a transfer case with a hammer, but here we are 🤝
Transfer Case
Flux capacitor 😊
This is uncharacteristically chaotic. I like it.
Dimitri Shevchenko is a bladesmith in Ukraine and does a lot of projects from different types of chain. He does incredible damascus patterns. Might be worth looking him up to see how he avoids occlusions. I don't think he makes canisters for the, so its probably a different technique.
Cool change of pace video, beautiful pattern 🤝
For a mechanic, you're a pretty damn decent bladesmith 😉
Haha, nice
For all the mechanics, try putting that transmission back together with no piece left at the end 😂
I loved the disassembly portion of the video. I've been a mechanic for over 30 years and I can't tell you how many times I've felt like doing the same thing.
Great pattern on the letter opener.
I really hope some of the newer guys to knifemaking that come across this video can take the real lesson from this video. Sure you can make a knife from recycled steel you can even make a really nice look knife from it but far more important when adversity rears its head you keep at it til you get where you want. Oftentimes when forging knives you come across obstacles and when they come up you keep pushing until you've overcome those obstacles. Thanks for sharing Elijah you did a great job and showed us your grit and determination.
Wow! Neat! I've always wanted to do that to a torque converter.
The drum you cut apart is most likely cast iron or metal injection molded Ductile iron. The shafts are forged and case hardened 1050 or 1045 steel usually.
Definitely the best artisan use case for a crap t-case, other than busting them open for desk trinkets or recycling. Gears and bearing races are usually the safe bet or the shaft themselves. Chains can be 50/50, depending on the source manufacturer. I've got a few scrap-quality jet engine compressors that I've dedicated to using for various projects, as much as it pains me to hammering on them both from an engineering appreciation point, but moreso because they are so damn tough.
That doohickey is a transfer case. It bolts to the back of the transmission and splits power off and transfers it to both axles of the vehicle giving it four-wheel-drive.
A torque converter goes in front of an automatic transmission and allows the engine to run with the vehicle stopped at a red light or whatever. It acts as a clutch between the engine and transmission.
Thanks for the insight! Yeah I don't know much about that stuff
That pattern is not what I expected, very cool project and great work!
A lot of things like shims and prop shafts are 1095, bearings are your 52100, gears can sometimes be 8160 or 4140- mid carbon, high impact steel, chains are sometimes 4140 or a 1070-1084 carbon steel.
It various obviously and like any found steel there's bound to be some alloys or other weirdness thrown into the mix depending on the OEM.
I think the chain with some higher nickel powdered steel might turn out really good too if you can get some.
Yeah, it's really a shot in the dark, but hopefully makes for an interesting UA-cam project
Great video really admire your persistence! Cool piece!
Well, you have good fire starter in that magnesium casing. Bushcrafters love that stuff. And yea if youre goin to do canister with chain, ya need that powdered steel for the voids to weld. Chain makes amazing looking pattern welded blades. Im not as proficient at it myself as id like to be eventually.
I'm always interested in watching folks make blades out of mystery steel. Interesting experiment, but it reinforces my belief that my time is better spent with known steel. Thanks for sharing your process.
I took my transfer case apart with a tow truck once. Two forty twos like to break themselves in half if you don't disconnect the drive line.
If you’re not sure if something is aluminum or magnesium put vinegar on it. Magnesium will bubble hydrogen gas when vinegar is added.
that piece is more than likely casted those clutch rings are close to 15N20 and the bearing of course is usable
Beautiful knife, such a great work 👏👏
That is one cool letter opener. Someone will be happy to have that.
I’d try to find some old axle shafts if you want to use car parts, they’re solid and should be made of quality metal 👍
That powder makes all the difference. It’s nice to play around and try different things sometimes. I’ve been sitting on some chain and other stuff for a while, hoping to experiment with them. You could always San-Mai them with core steel of your choice. Great job, thanks for sharing
No pepper flakes? Has shurap taught you nothing? 😂 looks cool!
Haha, maybe that's why I had trouble with it
I wonder if you could drive a small round bar of steel in to the hollow part of the shaft you got from the transfer case and forge wield it into a solid bar then forge it in to a blade.
Awesome
Junkyard steel series? Should be a good number of people who would watch since it's most common source of material for new smiths to play with and leaf springs aren't always available
super fun video! thanks for taking us along on the journey!
You bet, glad you enjoyed it!
You know its bolted together right lol. 😉
What bolts? Haha
😂😂😂
It's a transfer case for a 4 wheel drive dodge truck I believe
While this video is entertaining, I’m positive that process was agonizing lol. I’m amazed at what a pretty letter opener resulted, though! I hope you don’t feel like you have to put yourself through this again. You make some incredible knives from much easier material!
Great video! It's problem solving, upcycling, and a unique end product. Really enyable and fun to watch. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think it's a continuously variable transmission (CVT)
Very entertaining video thanks i enjoyed it.
The pattern is looking AWESOME 😊🤘
Thanks glad you like it!
It's a transfer case, goes directly behind the transmission to split the drive for both rear and front axles on a 4 wheel drive.
Yeah let's see how it comes out I can't wait
Great job champ
Looks like it is set up as an electric transfer case; could possibly be a transmission for a front wheel drive, due to the small clutch pack inside.
I seen one of these knife makers do it without a canister just for the motorcycle chain and it came out great
Sharup, is one guy who does many different pattern steels and actually does then well. Look up his channel.
like the pattern
It's a transfer case.. you could take it apart might be far easier..
BFH and angle grinder,perfect
As for the disks being porous and oil soaked, I would toss it in a fire pit and see what's left.
Beutiful blade
Thank you
Another banger video! Thanks FCF!
Thanks for watching!!
As a person that works at the place that more than likely made this transfer case. That may be a magnesium case.
I've wanted to take apart car parts with a big hammer so many times, but it makes it harder to put back together! 😂🤣 That transfer case didn't stand a chance.
Transfer Case!
AWESOME
I'll duplicate your methods during my next transmission rebuild. THANKS!
Go for it! Most of the people experienced enough to do this are too stubborn to try, and the people adventurous enough to try are too inexperienced and under-tooled to do it.
If you have PO box (or aren't too far from San Antonio) I have some unconventional canisters for canister Damascus that I'll give you
Hey, do you feel better now taking your frustration out on that torque converter 😂 cool blade too
UA-cam certified mechanic degree is in the mail right? 😂
Its the flux capacitor
"Can I make a knife from an auto part?" Yes, yes I can
I'm sure you could but that's a transfer case 😉
Thanks!
So why couldn’t you use wrenches to disassemble the transfer case?
No that would be too boring
By the look of that canister, you went back to whiteout instead of the paint? Any particular reason?
Nope, still paint. :)
that's one way to disassemble things 🤣
squaring dies. that chain will make a great looking knife but it has to be compressed on all sides. at least thats how i have done it before. its just my opinion though
You’re getting skinny bud! 👍
You should watch "shirap" he used the same chai n a made a very nice blade
Are ratchet and wrenches not available in your area?
That was likely a very expensive transfer case. I hope it was broken internally or something.
It was headed to the scrap yard
@@FireCreekForge That's good to know.
Newer auto parts are made out of all kinds of weird materials. Even if it is solid steel, it's probably not the kind that will forge weld.
Probably better off at the scrap yard in this case.
well this is fun
That chain looks like awesome stuff
Do you have any use for thermite?
For some reason I am really enjoying the hammer and dropping metal noises in this video....very satisfying noises that appeal some how some of those whacks with the sledgehammer sounded way cool.
Sprocketmascus
Now you can tell I comment as the video is ongoing lol and your fan sounds like an old biplane
I like that, I think it was worth it...lot of work for a dagger type letter opener but still very cool .
Great share thanksyou
Looks like a Jeep transfer case
transfer case 4 wheel drive unit
Transfer case
When you're welding the pieces together what's the purpose of putting your hand behind it and catching the sparks?
Just trying to shield the arc from the camera to make it less jarring to the viewer.
@@FireCreekForge I kinda figured that. I actually first thought that maybe someone tried to get a lawsuit against you or UA-cam trying to say that watching damaged their eyes. Sad that's the world we live in but I've seen worse and things much more petty go through a court process.
Every time you said torque converter, it made me cringe.
It's a transfer case!
Transfers power to the front wheels of a 4 wheel drive.
1:24 what are you doing!?
Put a little borax and something that'll make some carbon like some black pepper or any organic matter
You know you can just unbolt it.
It's a dang transfer case bud. 😢
Why break it apart, when you could have just taken the bolts (screws) off and had it all in one piece??
I was thinking the same thing.
I was planning to break it up into pieces to melt down
Being a blacksmith/blade maker etc... is a manly thing, calling a "transfer case" a "Torque Converter, or whatever", maybe not so much. just say'n
Yeah, I'm not much of a mechanic
It’s not magnesium. It’s aluminum.
Nope
Magnesium cases have an mg cast in to them? Was that anywhere on the case?
I don't get it. He can't figure out how bolts work?
If you don't what it is, how will you ever properly heat treat it.....???? are you just amusing it's 1095 1084 or whatever your powder mix is? even though it could be on your edge??