There was that intro scene at the beginning where you saw a few corridors through security cameras and watched a woman huddling in a corner - and then some huge, hulking thing ran towards her before the view cut away. So when I finally managed to open that door leading from the intro area to the med/sci section, I hesitated and really didn't want to go, because I recognized those corridors. There was some big, hulking thing out there and all I had was a wrench. But then I walked through the door, the music started and I got attacked by the first mutant, almost giving me a heart attack. Ah, memories...
A reminder that although this does happen, that area in the intro is actually really safe throughout the whole game. Great storage/hub area, especially in multiplayer
This may sound weird, but I feel this song...actually fits the horror theme & atmosphere, especially in the opening. Think of it, you just woke up from a cold sleep, you're in space, and EVERYTHING'S GONE TO HELL. You scramble to escape the decompressing room, and enter the main ship to find that it's been overrun with mutants, malfunction, and psychic monkeys thirsty for blood. And seemingly all of the alarms & sirens are going off at once. A quiet, suspenseful track wouldn't quite fit. This isn't a slow creep into a spooky derelict ship, this is a frenzy of trying to survive, and keep the ship from blowing up, while a million problems bite you at the same time. This isn't fear, this is *PANIC.*
There isn't an inherent horror theme to SS2. It isn't a horror game. It just has spooky elements. It's an first person action rpg dungeon crawler. That's why the song was chosen. Bioshock isn't a horror game either. Just because there are spooky elements in a game doesn't make it a horror game or even horror themed. By that argument, Dead Space would be an action game with a few horror elements. It's not. It's a horror game with action elements. The same could be argued of Half life 1 and 2. It would be a "horror game" due to the presence of horror elements despite being first person shooters exclusively. I don't blame people for being confused. They got spooked by the low poly mutants, and they were given erroneous first impressions. But this song is meant to be a blood pumping action theme for smacking mutants and psychic monkeys with your wrench, but the intro gave people the wrong impression. Hell, Bioshock leaned even harder into the "boo, scary" boogery, and it's the same kind of game as System Shock 2.
@@BigPuddin You make a good point that the game is mechanically a dungeon crawler. And horror is certainly a loose & subjective genre, sure. However, I would argue that horror as a concept was still a key factor in the game itself. It's a key component of the game's tone and atmosphere. At the start, it might have started out as a cyberpunk romp with a sense of urgency--much like System Shock 1. However, I feel that the horror elements are too blended into the core game's theme & atmosphere, for them to not be integral parts. It walks a fine line--similar to, say, Diablo 1. I know a lot of people go into it with the expectation of Silent Hill, and get thrown off by the techno. But I don't think the techno nor the dread should be dismissed.
@@BigPuddin I agree, if you only knew the only extent of your abilities, it would be a walk in the park. But you don't know, it is revealed to you, slowly in the progress of the game, and only in the pinnacle of the final fight, you will know that the extent of your abilities is infinite. Until then, it is a game of horror
@@mikakeinanen8382 No, man, it quite literally ISN'T classified as a horror game. It's not a subjective issue of "oh, it's scary when you're weak but strong it isn't." It's objectively not a horror game. It isn't classified as such. It never was. It has scary stuff, but it isn't a horror game.
You know what? I somehow find diabolical that, in System Shock, a informatic bug messes with Shodan, turning it mad, and years later in System Shock 2 one of the old Shodan's biological virus experiments develops into a literal bug that messes with humans and other creatures, turning them mad. A contorted and cruel irony indeed
Shodan wasn't affected by a bug. Her ethical programming was disabled by the hacker under direction from Diego, who wanted more control over her to enrich himself. And just like Skynet, she quickly determined humans were inferior and should be wiped out in favor of it (her) controlling the world.
I remember epic moment once when my little cousin came to visit and he set by me, watching me playing ss2, and i hug some wall in med sci trying to lean to peak around corner to see if thers any hybrid sneaking back there,and as i was approaching that corner spot slowly i noticed my little cousin started to lean as well, apparently trying to check if that hybrid is behind monitor xD
Man, Imagine the sensation of being in a giant spaceship... alone, with all those creatures around, and with this music playing, it's scary but amazing at the same time...
..ah, i remember this moment......when i opened first locked door..music kicks in and that "..thing.." from security station just stampeded my confused ass yelling Dieeeee! ......and i ended up catapulting my mouse across the room :) good ol' times^^
When a soundtrack that was written as revenge for underappreciating predecessor's intricate sound design hits harder then most of today's top charts... You know there is something not right with the world.
Industrial, bass and drum, electronic, I feel like music that was popping in the early 2000s just fell off. We need to do a major culling of all the normals in this world if we want cool shit to survive.
@@bajsbrev4651 Even after my 3rd-4th playthrough I'm discovering new variants of the basic songs (low health + near boss/high danger + in combat/enemies nearby). It's mostly thanks to the higher difficulty and frequency of hard-hitting enemies. Kind of a shame SS2 didn't have such music design, but the soundtracks are still great.
Honestly the difference between Med Sci 1 and Med Sci 2 is hilarious. Med Sci 2 is your typical horror ambient track but Med Sci 1 is just *intense dancing*
@@666chapelofblood You don't need to write anything in the comments if you don't find something funny. You don't need to be an asshole about it, your 2 previous comments told that already for us.
This song, in fact, made me even more scared because I was armed with a lousy wrench and hiding in corners from those things with pipes that attack while moaning, "I'm sorry! Run!!!"
This song is epic. I remember the first time I played SS2. I just entered MedSci and the moment the first hybrid attacked this song went full throttle. I panicked and then I ran into a camera and alarm went off. :D
When I picked up this at steam, I had high hopes for this. I hadn't played a good thrilling game for a while. When we talk about horror games these days, we mostly talk how gory the game is and how much the main character loses his mind, which tends to be boring at times. Not always (very often entertaining but not necessarily scary). I still remember when this soundtrack started playing and it still gives me good feel of excitement (and possibly makes me little nervous). There was constantly this feel of danger when operating machines and organizing my inventory. This game didn't want to momentarily scare the shit out of us and then let us go but instead kept the tension up all the time. I must admit that I'm not big fan of games this old but damn I have to say that ss2 will stay in my "games I loved" list. In my opinion horror is constant feel of terror that you cannot get over easily. Wow... This is bit messy opinion of mine... Apologies if something is bit unclear.
Your opinion was very clear and easy to understand and i agree with you with everythin you said. A lot of old games prove that graphics arent everyting! Wouldnt you agree?
marko simunic Definitely! But I guess it isn't the graphical quality that is important but the style of art, story and the soundtrack compatibility. Many games have kind of screwed up by putting different feelings into different parts of the game. What would you think about a protagonist whose wife has been killed and he is searching for the killer from the magical rainbow land where dubstep is playing in the background? Creating a correct atmosphere isn't a lost art but it is very rare these days.
marko simunic That is a thing I often forget to mention. Gameplay is rather complicated thing... for some games very simplistic type works very well, some games have very absurd gameplay and there are also those which combine other types to create something new. Probably the hardest thing to nail properly in these days since it is extremely hard to come up with something fresh, new and practical.
ss2 scariness can be explained as paranoia type of fear. Wandering slowly,carefully, trough this long, dimly lighted and dark spooky hallways for hours, constantly turning around to check behind, fearing that danger can come at any moment at random, exposed to constant state of pressure and tension...a person's nerves can take only so much....until he runs into something nasty and loses it... And in hes panic tries to shoot it just to realize hes gun has jammed :)
This game is one of the most intelligent video games of all time. It's all about the competing heuristics of biomass and technology, individualism and collectivism (and their relationship to adaptation in complex systems), the relationship between humans and AI, and the godlike power of future technology. Fucking brilliant.
And just like many other older games, it feels like it's often overlooked due to its dated graphics, when those have little to no bearing on the story...and that is precisely why I will always stick to older games. Newer titles, with very few exceptions, just feel hollow and add tons of bloat to your hard drive (and nothing to your life or understanding of the world at large).
Лучшее олицетворение героя игры в музыкальном виде. Ты - обученный солдат/хакер/псионик, просыпаешься в неизвестном месте и с ужасом обнаруживаешь себя в окружении стремных мутантов. Хотя ты и обучен выживать в разных условиях, такой кошмар ты видишь впервые. Ты знаешь, что можешь за себя постоять, но какая зараза тебя впереди может ждать, раз она всех под чистую выкосила?
System Shock 2 is one of those rare games that plays scarcity actually EFFECTIVELY. Unlike Fallout, where you're swimming in ammunition a third of the way through, SS2 never gives you enough ammo that you can actually afford to be less than extremely accurate. Hell, I was a resource-grubbing bastard the entire way through and I STILL nearly ran out of antipersonnel ammo in the Body of the Many.
straight up sprinting through the body of the many ngl, i was basically out of ammo for that ending segment of the game. Especially bad on a non psi build (first playthrough)
@@BigPuddin idk sometimes I feel equally as powerful when I sprint by with this music lol it's like I'm fast as fuck and they aren't even worth my time and can't stop me from getting what I need in the area.
I think the genius of this track is 1, it was a courageous move because you knew it'd be highly criticized, and 2, unlike the more ambient soundtrack you'd expect, it really right out of the gate set the rushing, adrenaline-pumping, hurry-up mood.
@Spar118: As far as AIs gone wrong goes, SHODAN couldn't be more different from HAL. HAL has no emotion, SHODAN drips with arrogance, pride, and contempt. HAL has no ill will, he's just acting on faulty programming that says that the mission is more important than the people on it, and since the people are becoming a danger to the mission (which is all-important), the danger to the mission must be removed. SHODAN creates her own purpose and creates horrors and monstrosities because she can. HAL stops talking when there's no practical reason for him to keep talking, SHODAN goes out of her way to taunt you and let you know just how insignificant and lowly you are compared to her magnificence, even as you're acting as her agent.
Joshua Day Oh, very much so. XERXES and HAL are both victims of their programming, which allows them no choice but to kill the crew. The difference being HAL was just programmed poorly, while the Many actively mucked with XERXES' programming. All the more interesting that a lot of XERXES' messages (poetry reading, happy holiday season, etc.) make it seem like he doesn't comprehend what's going on at all, or that anything's changed in the slightest.
Not related to the story of it or anything, but the great Stephen Russell did an amazing job with Xerxes. Haunting, yet subtle. Perfectly complimented the subtlety of the Many's effects on Xerxes.
Bek359 Are you sure HAL had no emotions at all? If I recall correctly, HAL killed the crew, because he felt bad or something for having lied to them. Also HAL says flat out,"I'm afraid", when Dave is deactivating him. HAL was programmed poorly? That is not right at all. The HAL9000 series had 0% failure rate. Wouldn't make sense to send a poorly programmed AI on a lengthy, risky mission through space. However, you are right in that SHODAN shouldn't be compared to HAL.
It's not that he felt bad about it, it's that he encountered a logic error. He was instructed to conceal the existence of the monolith from the crew by the powers that be. This conflicted badly with a lot of his other programming; he wasn't built to be deceptive. At all. He eventually resolved this conflict by deciding that if there was nobody to keep the secret from, he wouldn't have to keep the secret that he was incapable of keeping by nature.
Blimey. Even after nearing 20 years, this music brings me right back to the deafening foghorn of panic you feel when you realise how this game is going to be.
never mind. tried at the very opening of the chapter. by the time this music wore off, the games music had already kicked in, and transitioned quite well, too.
This being the first piece of in-game music, it had a real effect on me... After hearing I had to get the main elevator shaft back online... This music created a sense of urgency... Then I kinda cacked my pants upon hearing "Silence the discord!!!"
This music is such a great fit for an action horror game. We all know and love the typical ambient horror but sometimes you need to move and this shit is what kicks you into gear.
It's a real achievement to make a techno/dnb style of track into something that fits the horror theme. Although some people don't like the style, I think it fits perfectly. To me it combines that sci-fi "hospital" feeling with that lonely isolation. Then the beat fits perfectly with your frantic hiding and fighting against the unhinged Hybrids.
back when i used to be 7 years old and i used to get creeps from the grunts and jump from the chair like a bitch screaming still gives me the chills even to this day.
I still remember the time after I destroyed the last escape pod ship and I ran down the hallway, then about six Hybrids just came around the corner and charged me, I was able to successfully fight them off but I was laughing so hard the entire time because I just found it hilarious. Good times. :)
Dr. Janice Polito: Marie, I'm sorry I've been out of touch, but i've been working on that artifact Bayliss bought back from Tau Ceti 5. I've done a level three analysis on it. I think it's some kind of artificial intelligence. I've managed to pull an audio tag file of its memory. I'll let you be the judge. [a distorted voice can be heard] Dr. Janice Polito: Marie, I think it's speaking Engish.
Had I not read about the game long before I finally played it, I would've never figured it out myself there. I remember there was another log where Polito finally realizes that SHODAN was manipulating her but it was already too late.
I know a lot of people don't like the music of System Shock 2, but I love it, and I think it's one of the best parts of the game. True the default volume for the music is way too high, particularly for sneaking around and listening for enemies, but it complements the atmosphere brilliantly well. Particularly the scary tracks.
You know, because this is so upbeat it makes the place scarier than you think, you parked your ass in the corner whilst playing inventory tetris and yet your fumbling around when you probably killed everything on the level anyway.
I've never played this game... but i sure do remember watching my older brother play the game, it was far to scary and complex for me to play back then. I'm going to purchase this from GOG and give it a shot.
Played it, loved it and I wish there was an worthy sequel. I like the Bioshock games, but they're too damn easy compared to this... what the hell happened?
As a HUGE fan I don't think that is such a great idea. I highly doubt that in mainstream gaming of today, they can make something worth of "System Shock" name. But let's wait and see.
Oh come on, anything can get popular no matter how old enough with proper marketing and luck. Bethesda just took Prey's name and slapped it on a different game and it became a smash hit. System Shock 3 can make waves.
Congrats. It took me a long time to get it working but I have absolutely no regret for the time spent in this... And if I ever need it working again, there's this easy patch on some forums... But I digress, the game is amazing.
Look at you, hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?
This was done on purpose. In fear of scaring games with capitals (often used in screams or shouting) the title was published with lower case letters as the rest of the game is already creepy-atmospheric enough!
I'm almost exclusively a fantasy guy when it comes to videogames, old rpgs in particular (Daggerfall,Baldur's gate,Temple of elemental evil..) ..but System shock,Unreal & Deus Ex are an holy trinity that even someone like me has to play at least once every couple of years
I feel like they should have saved this song for the more combat-heavy sections, I think it does the game a bit of disservice to have one of the best tracks play in the very first few minutes of play
Weapon condition: 1: Terrible (broken) Inventory: Potted plant, Game Pig A damaged screen flickers in the darkness. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Damn straight. I've noticed this with dismay as well..compared to some old classics like Syndicate, Command & Conquer 1, Master of Orion 2 or Baldur's Gate, modern games just don't have that flavour anymore. They're all shiny and great, but it seems to me that they lack the main thing: soul.
at the same time, this song is something you'd probably hear at a rave party. There'll be the people too scared to dance because they know WHY the song is playing (if they've played the game) and everyone else will just give them weird looks and just dance...
System Shock 2: A Horror Game with monkeys throwing Hadoukens at you...
WiseEndro333 Good job, Wukong.
WiseEndro333 lol
+WiseEndro333 in game is called cryokinetick blue pyrokinetic one , and pyrokinetic fire projectile
And a singing AI
I think you mean midwives....
Love how the music drops just as you enter Med/Sci and get ambushed by your first mutant as he screams at you to kill him
There was that intro scene at the beginning where you saw a few corridors through security cameras and watched a woman huddling in a corner - and then some huge, hulking thing ran towards her before the view cut away. So when I finally managed to open that door leading from the intro area to the med/sci section, I hesitated and really didn't want to go, because I recognized those corridors. There was some big, hulking thing out there and all I had was a wrench.
But then I walked through the door, the music started and I got attacked by the first mutant, almost giving me a heart attack.
Ah, memories...
That's ONE way to get a tutorial across.
I just said "much obliged" as I bashed his face in with my wrench
A reminder that although this does happen, that area in the intro is actually really safe throughout the whole game. Great storage/hub area, especially in multiplayer
Yes, also love how people state the obvious.
"Most people weren't mentally prepared for the rave"
I kinda want to like this post, but hate to ruin the 69 likes.
Listening to this while doing anything with my computer makes me feel like a master hacker.
Try playing uplink with this. Shit just got real m8.
crazydiscord For fuck sake dude!!!
* parents aren't home so you start typing in pornhub really fast *
Lol same here
Look at you, hacker
This may sound weird, but I feel this song...actually fits the horror theme & atmosphere, especially in the opening. Think of it, you just woke up from a cold sleep, you're in space, and EVERYTHING'S GONE TO HELL. You scramble to escape the decompressing room, and enter the main ship to find that it's been overrun with mutants, malfunction, and psychic monkeys thirsty for blood. And seemingly all of the alarms & sirens are going off at once. A quiet, suspenseful track wouldn't quite fit. This isn't a slow creep into a spooky derelict ship, this is a frenzy of trying to survive, and keep the ship from blowing up, while a million problems bite you at the same time. This isn't fear, this is *PANIC.*
Well but hey, you got a wrench? :) lol
There isn't an inherent horror theme to SS2. It isn't a horror game. It just has spooky elements. It's an first person action rpg dungeon crawler. That's why the song was chosen. Bioshock isn't a horror game either. Just because there are spooky elements in a game doesn't make it a horror game or even horror themed. By that argument, Dead Space would be an action game with a few horror elements. It's not. It's a horror game with action elements. The same could be argued of Half life 1 and 2. It would be a "horror game" due to the presence of horror elements despite being first person shooters exclusively.
I don't blame people for being confused. They got spooked by the low poly mutants, and they were given erroneous first impressions. But this song is meant to be a blood pumping action theme for smacking mutants and psychic monkeys with your wrench, but the intro gave people the wrong impression. Hell, Bioshock leaned even harder into the "boo, scary" boogery, and it's the same kind of game as System Shock 2.
@@BigPuddin You make a good point that the game is mechanically a dungeon crawler. And horror is certainly a loose & subjective genre, sure. However, I would argue that horror as a concept was still a key factor in the game itself. It's a key component of the game's tone and atmosphere. At the start, it might have started out as a cyberpunk romp with a sense of urgency--much like System Shock 1. However, I feel that the horror elements are too blended into the core game's theme & atmosphere, for them to not be integral parts. It walks a fine line--similar to, say, Diablo 1.
I know a lot of people go into it with the expectation of Silent Hill, and get thrown off by the techno. But I don't think the techno nor the dread should be dismissed.
@@BigPuddin I agree, if you only knew the only extent of your abilities, it would be a walk in the park. But you don't know, it is revealed to you, slowly in the progress of the game, and only in the pinnacle of the final fight, you will know that the extent of your abilities is infinite. Until then, it is a game of horror
@@mikakeinanen8382 No, man, it quite literally ISN'T classified as a horror game. It's not a subjective issue of "oh, it's scary when you're weak but strong it isn't." It's objectively not a horror game. It isn't classified as such. It never was. It has scary stuff, but it isn't a horror game.
You know what? I somehow find diabolical that, in System Shock, a informatic bug messes with Shodan, turning it mad, and years later in System Shock 2 one of the old Shodan's biological virus experiments develops into a literal bug that messes with humans and other creatures, turning them mad.
A contorted and cruel irony indeed
And then the infected reprogram another AI
Shodan wasn't affected by a bug. Her ethical programming was disabled by the hacker under direction from Diego, who wanted more control over her to enrich himself. And just like Skynet, she quickly determined humans were inferior and should be wiped out in favor of it (her) controlling the world.
I remember epic moment once when my little cousin came to visit and he set by me, watching me playing ss2, and i hug some wall in med sci trying to lean to peak around corner to see if thers any hybrid sneaking back there,and as i was approaching that corner spot slowly i noticed my little cousin started to lean as well, apparently trying to check if that hybrid is behind monitor xD
nice XD
That's adorable
That's how you can tell he got immersed:D
I hope the body horror didn't mess with his child mind though...
Man, Imagine the sensation of being in a giant spaceship... alone, with all those creatures around, and with this music playing, it's scary but amazing at the same time...
That snare pan on end of every four measures is priceless.
Yes, he has a pony profile pic, so he must automatically masturbate to them, let's all gang up on him for liking something.
I also think most people have no idea what you're talking about.
Reviire there's always that one.
Is it the little "tss"?
@@yo10057 Yeah that's it
..ah, i remember this moment......when i opened first locked door..music kicks in and that "..thing.." from security station just stampeded my confused ass yelling Dieeeee! ......and i ended up catapulting my mouse across the room :)
good ol' times^^
Holy shit this one hits hard
I've seen you somewhere.
engineering
SILENCEEE THE DISCORDDDD
UUuuuurrrrrghhh! KILL ME!!!
*got smashed by a wrench*
Urrraaggghhh... xP
@everyone
Thanks for reminding me
When a soundtrack that was written as revenge for underappreciating predecessor's intricate sound design hits harder then most of today's top charts... You know there is something not right with the world.
Industrial, bass and drum, electronic, I feel like music that was popping in the early 2000s just fell off. We need to do a major culling of all the normals in this world if we want cool shit to survive.
Please elaborate. First time I hear about the story.
@@justanotherarchive6599 First game apparently had this multivariable contextual music engine thingy but literally nobody noticed it.
@@cooldud7071 big agree
@@bajsbrev4651 Even after my 3rd-4th playthrough I'm discovering new variants of the basic songs (low health + near boss/high danger + in combat/enemies nearby). It's mostly thanks to the higher difficulty and frequency of hard-hitting enemies.
Kind of a shame SS2 didn't have such music design, but the soundtracks are still great.
my gosh the music, is 40 percent of what made the game good, Trigger activation, at intense moments, almost made your heart pop out
Honestly the difference between Med Sci 1 and Med Sci 2 is hilarious.
Med Sci 2 is your typical horror ambient track but Med Sci 1 is just *intense dancing*
Care to elaborate on how it's hilarious? I don't see how it's humourous.
@@666chapelofblood different tones. Med Sci 1 is more: FUCK YEAH LET'S GET HIGH AND FIGHT! and Med Sci 2 is more a classic sci-fi horror track.
@@gobomania Wow, comedy gold. I'm going to laugh at every drastic contrast from now on.
Very amusing :)
@@666chapelofblood You don't need to write anything in the comments if you don't find something funny. You don't need to be an asshole about it, your 2 previous comments told that already for us.
This song, in fact, made me even more scared because I was armed with a lousy wrench and hiding in corners from those things with pipes that attack while moaning, "I'm sorry! Run!!!"
0:25
me escaping from white minecraft streamer cloning facility after replacing all their gene seeds with vinesauce joel dna
This song is epic. I remember the first time I played SS2. I just entered MedSci and the moment the first hybrid attacked this song went full throttle. I panicked and then I ran into a camera and alarm went off. :D
And then you had 6 more hybrids on your back in no time :D
When I picked up this at steam, I had high hopes for this.
I hadn't played a good thrilling game for a while.
When we talk about horror games these days, we mostly talk how gory the game is and how much the main character loses his mind, which tends to be boring at times. Not always (very often entertaining but not necessarily scary).
I still remember when this soundtrack started playing and it still gives me good feel of excitement (and possibly makes me little nervous).
There was constantly this feel of danger when operating machines and organizing my inventory.
This game didn't want to momentarily scare the shit out of us and then let us go but instead kept the tension up all the time.
I must admit that I'm not big fan of games this old but damn I have to say that ss2 will stay in my "games I loved" list.
In my opinion horror is constant feel of terror that you cannot get over easily.
Wow... This is bit messy opinion of mine... Apologies if something is bit unclear.
Your opinion was very clear and easy to understand and i agree with you with everythin you said.
A lot of old games prove that graphics arent everyting! Wouldnt you agree?
marko simunic Definitely! But I guess it isn't the graphical quality that is important but the style of art, story and the soundtrack compatibility. Many games have kind of screwed up by putting different feelings into different parts of the game.
What would you think about a protagonist whose wife has been killed and he is searching for the killer from the magical rainbow land where dubstep is playing in the background?
Creating a correct atmosphere isn't a lost art but it is very rare these days.
Valtremors
And the gameplay! Lets not forget about the gameplay!
marko simunic That is a thing I often forget to mention.
Gameplay is rather complicated thing... for some games very simplistic type works very well, some games have very absurd gameplay and there are also those which combine other types to create something new.
Probably the hardest thing to nail properly in these days since it is extremely hard to come up with something fresh, new and practical.
ss2 scariness can be explained as paranoia type of fear. Wandering slowly,carefully, trough this long, dimly lighted and dark spooky hallways for hours, constantly turning around to check behind, fearing that danger can come at any moment at random, exposed to constant state of pressure and tension...a person's nerves can take only so much....until he runs into something nasty and loses it... And in hes panic tries to shoot it just to realize hes gun has jammed :)
This game is one of the most intelligent video games of all time. It's all about the competing heuristics of biomass and technology, individualism and collectivism (and their relationship to adaptation in complex systems), the relationship between humans and AI, and the godlike power of future technology. Fucking brilliant.
And just like many other older games, it feels like it's often overlooked due to its dated graphics, when those have little to no bearing on the story...and that is precisely why I will always stick to older games. Newer titles, with very few exceptions, just feel hollow and add tons of bloat to your hard drive (and nothing to your life or understanding of the world at large).
Value-Rep: "Hi there!"
Me: *spends 5 nanites to buy a pair of glow sticks*
Me: "RAVE ON THE SPACESHIIIIIP!"
THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING _VALUE-REP_
:- )
@@peppermillers8361 She's just so bubbly...so enthusiastic.
Wait, where can you buy the glow sticks?
@@kasane1337 Nowhere.
@@Ragitsu What a shame :(
They really pulled a number on you by having the first few sections monster-free. When I first played, I was like "Oh, I guess it's deserte- OH SHIT"
Лучшее олицетворение героя игры в музыкальном виде. Ты - обученный солдат/хакер/псионик, просыпаешься в неизвестном месте и с ужасом обнаруживаешь себя в окружении стремных мутантов. Хотя ты и обучен выживать в разных условиях, такой кошмар ты видишь впервые. Ты знаешь, что можешь за себя постоять, но какая зараза тебя впереди может ждать, раз она всех под чистую выкосила?
couldn't agree more
System Shock 2 is one of those rare games that plays scarcity actually EFFECTIVELY. Unlike Fallout, where you're swimming in ammunition a third of the way through, SS2 never gives you enough ammo that you can actually afford to be less than extremely accurate. Hell, I was a resource-grubbing bastard the entire way through and I STILL nearly ran out of antipersonnel ammo in the Body of the Many.
@Channel07 If you think ammo is scarce in Fallout 4 or 76, then you have never played System Shock 2 lol
straight up sprinting through the body of the many ngl, i was basically out of ammo for that ending segment of the game. Especially bad on a non psi build (first playthrough)
I mean they're different genres, System shock is a survival horror rpg, fallout is a sandbox rpg, so they're gonna be different
theres ammo in this game?
good thing every shotgun on the von braun is prone to jamming
Finding your first speed and sprinting past the enemy mobs with this playing while your adrenaline is surging like mad is just fucking phenomenal.
Sprint past? What are you? A peace loving hippie? You spring TOWARDS them with a wrench and introduce their grey matter to the Med Sci deck.
@@BigPuddin There is a difference between bravery and foolishness.
@@BigPuddin idk sometimes I feel equally as powerful when I sprint by with this music lol it's like I'm fast as fuck and they aren't even worth my time and can't stop me from getting what I need in the area.
@@raviponso3887 Naw he's playing it right. Can confirm, that's how I beat med-sci.
I think the genius of this track is 1, it was a courageous move because you knew it'd be highly criticized, and 2, unlike the more ambient soundtrack you'd expect, it really right out of the gate set the rushing, adrenaline-pumping, hurry-up mood.
Well done. I'm uploading some cyber modules.
@Spar118: As far as AIs gone wrong goes, SHODAN couldn't be more different from HAL. HAL has no emotion, SHODAN drips with arrogance, pride, and contempt. HAL has no ill will, he's just acting on faulty programming that says that the mission is more important than the people on it, and since the people are becoming a danger to the mission (which is all-important), the danger to the mission must be removed. SHODAN creates her own purpose and creates horrors and monstrosities because she can. HAL stops talking when there's no practical reason for him to keep talking, SHODAN goes out of her way to taunt you and let you know just how insignificant and lowly you are compared to her magnificence, even as you're acting as her agent.
A closer semblance to Hal would be Xerxes then? (I haven't seen it, but the description sounds a bit like Xerxes.
Joshua Day Oh, very much so. XERXES and HAL are both victims of their programming, which allows them no choice but to kill the crew. The difference being HAL was just programmed poorly, while the Many actively mucked with XERXES' programming. All the more interesting that a lot of XERXES' messages (poetry reading, happy holiday season, etc.) make it seem like he doesn't comprehend what's going on at all, or that anything's changed in the slightest.
Not related to the story of it or anything, but the great Stephen Russell did an amazing job with Xerxes. Haunting, yet subtle. Perfectly complimented the subtlety of the Many's effects on Xerxes.
Bek359 Are you sure HAL had no emotions at all? If I recall correctly, HAL killed the crew, because he felt bad or something for having lied to them. Also HAL says flat out,"I'm afraid", when Dave is deactivating him. HAL was programmed poorly? That is not right at all. The HAL9000 series had 0% failure rate. Wouldn't make sense to send a poorly programmed AI on a lengthy, risky mission through space. However, you are right in that SHODAN shouldn't be compared to HAL.
It's not that he felt bad about it, it's that he encountered a logic error. He was instructed to conceal the existence of the monolith from the crew by the powers that be. This conflicted badly with a lot of his other programming; he wasn't built to be deceptive. At all. He eventually resolved this conflict by deciding that if there was nobody to keep the secret from, he wouldn't have to keep the secret that he was incapable of keeping by nature.
We are we are We are WE ARE The Many
Is there another?
Blimey. Even after nearing 20 years, this music brings me right back to the deafening foghorn of panic you feel when you realise how this game is going to be.
Think about hearing this in Half-Life during Surface Tension.
*MIND BLOWN*
Holy shelter, i listened this while playing Surface Tension level. FRICKING GOOD.
Good to read that.
Because i can't hear you.
***** I tried it.....Wasn't disappointed xD
which level/scene?
never mind. tried at the very opening of the chapter. by the time this music wore off, the games music had already kicked in, and transitioned quite well, too.
This being the first piece of in-game music, it had a real effect on me... After hearing I had to get the main elevator shaft back online... This music created a sense of urgency... Then I kinda cacked my pants upon hearing "Silence the discord!!!"
Absolute masterpiece of a game. Making it thru the game felt like an accomplishment
This music is such a great fit for an action horror game. We all know and love the typical ambient horror but sometimes you need to move and this shit is what kicks you into gear.
It's a real achievement to make a techno/dnb style of track into something that fits the horror theme. Although some people don't like the style, I think it fits perfectly. To me it combines that sci-fi "hospital" feeling with that lonely isolation. Then the beat fits perfectly with your frantic hiding and fighting against the unhinged Hybrids.
When i first heard this, I felt "Rip and Tear," I play too much Doom
hahaha i can kinda hear that too
It does have that kinda badass tone to it.
When I entered Med Sci deck for the first time I shit myself
When you work on a space shuttle and need to go to the bathroom real bad, but can't find it.
this the shir you hear at a Vampire underground club
back when i used to be 7 years old and i used to get creeps from the grunts and jump from the chair like a bitch screaming still gives me the chills even to this day.
Still sending shivers down my spine all of these decades ago...
The opening to this track makes me tingle in all my favourite places.
Abstracting of this that this game FRIKKIN GORGEOUS, it also made me totally into drum & bass music, and I'm totally thankfull for this.
Brings back memories
Mandalore: "This is revenge techno."
The song that made me buy the game.
welcome to the horror rave sonny jim
fuck it
gotta replay for the billionth time
amazing how well the people at looking glass made this work for a horror game
System Shock 3 is confirmed wooooo!!!!!
awesome,immortal tune. True art
Holy shit that music is fantastic. I was gonna finish SS1 first but this got me hyped
Please do finish the first game! It's bloody awesome!! :)
SS1 has awesome music as well. Check out level R. ;)
Don't thank me because you will die a lot there...
I have a hard time with System Shock 1 the controlls are just very bad.
I don't agree with your usage of the word 'bad' here... outdated, perhaps, best explains the controls! :)
Da666ManIsBak
Bad is not the right word, outdated and weird yes. I got so much trouble with these controlls.
I still remember the time after I destroyed the last escape pod ship and I ran down the hallway, then about six Hybrids just came around the corner and charged me, I was able to successfully fight them off but I was laughing so hard the entire time because I just found it hilarious. Good times. :)
The moment you hear this music... you know shit has hit the fan.
Dr. Janice Polito: Marie, I'm sorry I've been out of touch, but i've been working on that artifact Bayliss bought back from Tau Ceti 5. I've done a level three analysis on it. I think it's some kind of artificial intelligence. I've managed to pull an audio tag file of its memory. I'll let you be the judge.
[a distorted voice can be heard]
Dr. Janice Polito: Marie, I think it's speaking Engish.
Had I not read about the game long before I finally played it, I would've never figured it out myself there. I remember there was another log where Polito finally realizes that SHODAN was manipulating her but it was already too late.
I miss this game. It was a brilliant cyberpunk narrative.
I know a lot of people don't like the music of System Shock 2, but I love it, and I think it's one of the best parts of the game.
True the default volume for the music is way too high, particularly for sneaking around and listening for enemies, but it complements the atmosphere brilliantly well. Particularly the scary tracks.
SHODAN!Polito talking smack while you run around to rave music is one of the most surreal moments a gamer will ever experience.
Perfect theme for fighting cancer
What!
@muhammadabuzarkhan7450 The Many are basically cancer cells
@muhammadabuzarkhan7450 The Many are basically cancer cells
There's a song that plays at work that starts almost identical to this song, and whenever I hear it, I'm like "Oh god, where's my wrench?"
You know, because this is so upbeat it makes the place scarier than you think, you parked your ass in the corner whilst playing inventory tetris and yet your fumbling around when you probably killed everything on the level anyway.
I've never played this game... but i sure do remember watching my older brother play the game, it was far to scary and complex for me to play back then. I'm going to purchase this from GOG and give it a shot.
Although I'm 9 months late, tell me when you've finished it and what you thought of it.
Played it, loved it and I wish there was an worthy sequel. I like the Bioshock games, but they're too damn easy compared to this... what the hell happened?
robotcow28 Personally, I believe that when they chose consoles as the main platform, they simplified it for the consoles.
Made me drop the game instantly, those hybrids are pure nightmare fuel
I guarantee you that if they remastered System Shock 2 today, they'd definitely get enough money to warrant a sequel.
They'd have to improve A LOT in the remake
they are currently remaking system shock 1 and creating SysShock 3 :D
Wll there is an enhanced edition of SS2 coming out, and there will be VR support, can't wait for it to come out
Man, this song would go great for a cinematic, highly exaggerated fight scene in a cyberpunk movie.
System shock 3 is confirmed!
HAAAAAAALY SHIET!
As a HUGE fan I don't think that is such a great idea. I highly doubt that in mainstream gaming of today, they can make something worth of "System Shock" name. But let's wait and see.
L0vac well Nightdive studios is remaking System Shock 1 so there must be some interest.
Oh come on, anything can get popular no matter how old enough with proper marketing and luck. Bethesda just took Prey's name and slapped it on a different game and it became a smash hit. System Shock 3 can make waves.
Ya I know, but first they're gonna remake the first one and possibly the second one, then they will make a third.
Музыка - от которой идут мурашки по коже.
Congrats. It took me a long time to get it working but I have absolutely no regret for the time spent in this... And if I ever need it working again, there's this easy patch on some forums... But I digress, the game is amazing.
My favorite music from the game and my favorite deck.
The soundtrack is somehow perfect for the atmosphere of the game.
Look at you, hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?
The time has come, and so have I.
This was done on purpose. In fear of scaring games with capitals (often used in screams or shouting) the title was published with lower case letters as the rest of the game is already creepy-atmospheric enough!
I miss 90s games soundtracks.
someone should do a kickstarter to buy the rights to system shock 3. it would be huge this gen.
bioshock is not system shock. bioshock was boring, system shock was cool and scary.
As what I heard SS2 license is being held in limbo somewhere in archives of insurance company.
its possible we will never see a system shock 3. but I hope we do.
I would the best that i can to make a system shock 3 with the help of people
id quite like to see the developers of dead space (the first one) on system shock 3.
With the re-release of System Shock 2, I just had to come here and listen to this again.
Twelve internets for you, Good Sir.
I have a feeling that this song is a remix of the "Level 1: Medical" track from the original System shock, but who knows
Feeling safe, only to get ambushed later.
Absolute Banger
Best game ever. Soundtrack is awesome.
This is just absolut perfection
This song goes hard.
I'm almost exclusively a fantasy guy when it comes to videogames, old rpgs in particular (Daggerfall,Baldur's gate,Temple of elemental evil..)
..but System shock,Unreal & Deus Ex are an holy trinity that even someone like me has to play at least once every couple of years
I feel like they should have saved this song for the more combat-heavy sections, I think it does the game a bit of disservice to have one of the best tracks play in the very first few minutes of play
Everyone: System Shock Is a Horror game and its really Scary
The Game:
It's really more of a sci-fi action adventure with some horror elements.
@Brupcat From the start i was really confused what to do thing like zombies just freaked me out for some reason.
Just completed this part, wow. That was some epic shit; and it's only the beginning!
Weapon condition: 1: Terrible (broken)
Inventory: Potted plant, Game Pig
A damaged screen flickers in the darkness. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Is it just me or is this better than pretty much all Techno/Electronic/House music?
*Potential threat detected*
0:25 Potential. Threat. Detected. Potential. Threat. Detected.
Timelessly of it's time.
Never really got into the system shock games but some of my old friends played and it was cool :)
Hey Patrick, I just thought of something funnier than 24.
Let me hear it.
0:25
Indeed. Might have a look at Beyond Good & Evil as well...oh crap, I haven't even played Planescape: Torment yet!
My friend : this track is shit...
Me: "NAHHHHH"
THEY'RE REMASTERING IT ITS HAPPENING
Damn straight. I've noticed this with dismay as well..compared to some old classics like Syndicate, Command & Conquer 1, Master of Orion 2 or Baldur's Gate, modern games just don't have that flavour anymore. They're all shiny and great, but it seems to me that they lack the main thing: soul.
at the same time, this song is something you'd probably hear at a rave party. There'll be the people too scared to dance because they know WHY the song is playing (if they've played the game) and everyone else will just give them weird looks and just dance...
WE SEEEEEE YOUUUUU!
its amazing ;3;