The Wreck of the Largest Ship Ever Seen by a Submarine Who Broke All Rules

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2023
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    The Pacific Ocean was dark and quiet that night. Only the sound of waves hitting the USS Archerfish broke the silence.
    Inside the submarine’s metal structure, Captain Joseph F. Enright stood at the periscope, eyes scanning the horizon. He was experienced and sure of himself, but his mind was filled with doubt, haunted by a past failure that nearly ended his career.
    This night was different, though, and Enright's focus remained fixed on the dark sea, driven by a need to make things right.
    And then he saw it: a faint shape in the distance, a large unknown enemy ship on the water.
    Just before midnight on November 28, 1944, the USS Archerfish roared to life, starting its chase about a hundred miles south of Tokyo Bay.
    The Captain sent an urgent message to Pearl Harbor, reading: [QUOTE]
    "I am pursuing a large aircraft carrier."
    Unknowingly, Archerfish had found the Shinano, the world's largest aircraft carrier, on a desperate nighttime run from Yokosuka to Japan's Inland Sea.

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  • @DarkDocsSeas
    @DarkDocsSeas  7 місяців тому +16

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    • @FozzyZ28
      @FozzyZ28 6 місяців тому

      It's about time you got off the US gravy train and told a story from the German/Italian/Japanese perspective..........please!!!!

    • @luckky6934
      @luckky6934 6 місяців тому

      Enlisted won’t play on Xbox 1

    • @patricktruchon9153
      @patricktruchon9153 6 місяців тому +2

      Screw video games. All you people who want to play should join the Marines and fight for real! War is not a game!

    • @RandomOzzieVids
      @RandomOzzieVids 6 місяців тому +1

      @@patricktruchon9153🤣🤣🤣 that makes sense, fighting on behalf of politicians, who are too spineless to fight.
      Grow up child.

    • @scivirus3563
      @scivirus3563 2 місяці тому

      @@patricktruchon9153 do you really think skinny or over weight nerd would make it in the navy

  • @dritzzdarkwood4727
    @dritzzdarkwood4727 6 місяців тому +44

    He was not removed from command. He wrote, and asked himself to be relieved of duty. Later he wrote asking for active duty and was given a rare second chance.

  • @wrm3016
    @wrm3016 6 місяців тому +23

    After reading Enright's book, it was more of a stroke of luck that Shinano changed course that enabled Archerfish to fire in the first place. But such is the luck of war in subs.

  • @ProfessorMAG
    @ProfessorMAG 6 місяців тому +150

    Archerfish was carrying the improved torpedoes that corrected an errant design that plagued the early USN efforts of WWII.

    • @timbrwolf1121
      @timbrwolf1121 6 місяців тому +19

      War might have been over a bit quicker if the torpedoes had worked from the get go. Our submariners were absolutely getting the upper hand tactically only to not get any kills aside from the occasional torpedo collision sinking

    • @thelton100
      @thelton100 6 місяців тому +12

      The reason for this was they were trying to save money by not allowing live fire excercises of their torpedoes

    • @simon-oy6um
      @simon-oy6um 6 місяців тому +1

      They got the torps working right at last 😮

    • @jimclark6256
      @jimclark6256 6 місяців тому +10

      And the tornedoes' designers refused to believe their torpedoes could be defected..@@thelton100

    • @greendragon4058
      @greendragon4058 6 місяців тому +3

      This is only one reason why they didn't believe that the Archer fish did what it did

  • @michaelmccotter4293
    @michaelmccotter4293 6 місяців тому +88

    From the start, Shinano was a poorly concieved design based on compromise.
    She was designed not as a battle carrier but a resupply carrier. Her mission was to resupply carriers with aircraft and pilots, etc.

    • @jamesricker3997
      @jamesricker3997 6 місяців тому +16

      She was designed as a battleship and the conversion process was started late in her construction. So late that it made turning her into a fleet carrier impossible. The Japanese desperately needed any aircraft carrier they could get, so they improvised.

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 6 місяців тому +12

      Given the continual lack of worthwhile pilots in the back half of the war, it was still a useless conversion.

    • @larryclemens1850
      @larryclemens1850 6 місяців тому +2

      Still, a valuable piece of equipment protected by a flotilla. Against such odds, the Archerfish showed bravery and discipline. That she got lucky that the Japanese craft, crew and captain weren't as prepared as they should have been, doesn't detract from the bravery of the sub crew pushing the attack against the force.

    • @robertthomas5906
      @robertthomas5906 5 місяців тому +1

      Bad design even as a battleship. The Yamano was so vulnerable they had to remove anything flammable for fear it would become a torch in battle. Torpedoes would rip 'em apart. They had a great idea, poorly executed making them junk.

    • @dx1450
      @dx1450 5 місяців тому +3

      @@recoil53 Which also made their idea of using Kamikazes even worse. They were killing any good pilots they had.

  • @ronaldgray5707
    @ronaldgray5707 6 місяців тому +48

    Nice Video. A couple of facts were missed. Shinano was a aircraft ferry. It was designed to ferry aircraft to remote island bases. It was to slow and cumbersome to be a fleet carrier. The Japanese learned that lesson with the Kaga. A Tosa class battleship that was converted to a carrier. It could only do 28 knots and had one of the higher turn rates of all the Japanese carriers. It had a very hard time forming up a strike group. The Japanese found that battleship conversions make very poor carriers, battlecrusiers were not ideal but their speed of 30+ knots made up for a lot. Lexington, Saratoga, Akagi all had large turn radi but their speed allowed the to form up larger air groups. A keel up carrier was the best. Another thing was the Yamato class was a fuel hog. Had Shinano made it, it was doubtful if it would have ever sortied. The Japanese were very good a keeping naval secrets, during the war the Yamato was thought to be armed only with a 16 inch gun, it was not till after the war that the Americans learned that it actually had 18.1 inch guns.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 6 місяців тому +13

      Small correction: the Japanese never wanted to turn Kaga into a carrier (she was going to be scrapped). What happened was that Akagi’s sister ship Amagi, which was slated for carrier conversion, was too badly damaged during the Great Kanto Earthquake to be completed; as a result the Japanese were forced to use Kaga as a substitute.

    • @christopherwebb3627
      @christopherwebb3627 6 місяців тому +2

      It wouldn't sound as dramatic, would it ?

    • @bobbycv64
      @bobbycv64 5 місяців тому +4

      @ronaldgray5707 Thank you so much for the additional information Ronald Gray. I knew about fleet and light carriers not about a ferry carrier which makes sense. Shinano was huge and super carrier by today's standards, CV59 + are considered supercarriers and Shinano was close to that displacement.

    • @fearthehoneybadger
      @fearthehoneybadger 4 місяці тому +2

      Shinano's speed was a result of only some of its engines being in working order.
      Also, DS said all 6 torpedoes hit: 4 hit-2 missed.

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 4 місяці тому +1

      @@fearthehoneybadger the part about only some of her engines working is true (due to her being incomplete), but even as designed she’d have only made 28 knots (which was the speed of the Yamato-class in general: it’s actually pretty quick for battleships, being on par with the North Carolina-class and South Dakota-class of fast battleships, but it’s ridiculously slow for an aircraft carrier).

  • @micahcastillo9113
    @micahcastillo9113 6 місяців тому +9

    My Uncle was on USS Archerfish AGSS-311 during the first and second phase of Sea Scan. 1959-‘62

    • @Chris_at_Home
      @Chris_at_Home 6 місяців тому +1

      My oldest brother served on the USS HardHead on the 1960s. It was one of the last Balao class submarines in service in the US Navy. I had a tour of the Clamagore in 1973 when it was part of a joint operation with South American Navies. I was in a P-3 detachment following the ships around and staying in hotels.

  • @Karagianis
    @Karagianis 6 місяців тому +8

    Far more hype than Shinano deserves, it was big, yes, but deeply flawed. It only carried 47 aircraft, only little more than half the capacity Kaga had carried whilst being less than half the displacement. It was in no way a super carrier, it probably wasn't even worth completing it given how worthless it was as a carrier.

    • @jimbracknell5648
      @jimbracknell5648 4 місяці тому

      Not to mention that by that time Japan lacked the experienced aircrews that could operate off a carrier

  • @greendragon4058
    @greendragon4058 6 місяців тому +109

    I absolutely love this story. My daughter who is in 4th grade at the time wrote a story cuz she had to write a history to write about how would you believe she got an F teachers didn't believe her. When she came home with the f I was Furious I went up to the school and I said why did my daughter get an F they told me that this story was fictitious and I said no it is not . And I handed her the book and the teacher said oh I'm sorry best day in my daughter's life wow oh my God that was funny my daughter and I we just had so much fun going out to the car

    • @rapodejko
      @rapodejko 6 місяців тому +21

      Just shows how lazy and arrogant (how could a child know something they don't) that teacher is. it would've taken for her all but 30 seconds to use her phone to look it up. But between arrogance and laziness it was just easier to give an F

    • @greendragon4058
      @greendragon4058 6 місяців тому +7

      @@rapodejko yep I kind of feel bad for kids getting out of school I know my oldest one brought home a paper and what's the what's the plural of topaz and my daughter said topaz the teacher how to look that one up I mean really? I was a single mom when my kids were small and we used to play games I integrated like okay I would find a word in the dictionary you guys have three chances to get what this guy what this word is you know and I would give him one hint free and you know stuff like that that way we could hang out together and they would learn at the same time skip 30 seconds on the teacher's part would have saved all kinds of headache what kind of scares me for the kids coming out of school now they don't even know how to cursive but me I'm an aggressive mom but they're all very independent they have all been through college they got their masters degrees

    • @TheRichtoo
      @TheRichtoo 6 місяців тому

      @@rapodejko😊

    • @curiousgeorge5992
      @curiousgeorge5992 6 місяців тому

      Home school don't let your kids be indoctrinated by the wolf and sheep factories

    • @sjb3460
      @sjb3460 6 місяців тому +8

      @@greendragon4058 My parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles were absolute terrors when using bad English. In high school, we had to write several term papers, typed (no erasing allowed), and properly footnoted (ibid, loc cite). I read Michelle Obama's Masters Thesis. If I had turned that in for my work, I would have received an "F".
      I don't know if any of you have noticed that the use of the word "like" permeates the speech of most people. I cringe when I listen to so many TV and radio hosts using "like" about 5 times every paragraph. My wife had an in-home nurse as she recovered from some major surgery. This nurse, working on her masters, could not talk without using "like" in every other sentence.
      I started studying Latin 10 years ago, and I achieved a level of competence equal to a 2nd-year high school student. I learned how to diagram sentences in Latin, do crossword puzzles in Latin, and compose sentences in Latin. In the 8th grade, we learned to diagram sentences in English, and as we progressed through high school the level of difficulty increased. I took free online courses and bought used books on Amazon and at the used bookstore. There is no excuse for ignorance because the internet, smartphones, and computers have given us the ability to study anything and everything.
      There is no shame in being ignorant. Ignorance can be remedied when knowledge is accessed. Stupidity is different. Stupidity is willful ignorance and therefore cannot be cured.
      I realize that 60 years ago, it was easy to teach English grammar because everyone spoke English. Now, English grammar is just a wish and because so few people speak English as their primary language, diagramming sentences in English is no longer required.

  • @steveclarke6257
    @steveclarke6257 6 місяців тому +8

    Your analysis that Shinano is a "super fleet carrier" is incorrect, she was designed as a "support carrier" with a major repair shop for damaged aircraft, but also with a small defensive air wing of her own. She was never designed to directly enter battle and had very little in the way of ordinance stores capacity to support such offensive action.
    So yes the story of her sinking is correct but the analysis of the vessels capabilities is wildly out in its accuracy.

  • @modeler308
    @modeler308 6 місяців тому +10

    WHY was a photo of USS Enterprise CVN-65 included? That ship was not even built or launched until 1961.

    • @cwj9202
      @cwj9202 6 місяців тому +2

      Good point. Back when that photo was taken, it was CVAN-65.

  • @daispy101
    @daispy101 6 місяців тому +7

    Good thing the Mk14 torpedo had FINALLY been fixed by then!

  • @motor2of7
    @motor2of7 6 місяців тому +23

    To hold a sub captain responsible for the crap torpedos at the beginning if the war is unconscionable

  • @wildcolonialman
    @wildcolonialman 6 місяців тому +1

    Fabulous. Thank you.

  • @thelton100
    @thelton100 6 місяців тому +9

    Don’t forget that her water tight doors weren’t installed prior to sailing

  • @bigredgreg1
    @bigredgreg1 6 місяців тому +9

    The first submarine depicted is not the Archerfish, or if it is, that full sail came long after WWII.

    • @texdawg8980
      @texdawg8980 6 місяців тому +1

      it is at least a close relative of the USS Nautilus.

    • @markhayes100
      @markhayes100 6 місяців тому

      95% sure the submarine at the beginning is USS Triton, nuclear powered and in the 1950's by far the largest US submarine. @@texdawg8980

  • @bkjeong4302
    @bkjeong4302 6 місяців тому +8

    It should be noted that work on Shinano was suspended shortly after PH, months before the decision to convert her into a carrier was made.

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 3 місяці тому

      Pearl Harbor or after Midway were the Japanese lost a few carriers

  • @7thsealord888
    @7thsealord888 6 місяців тому +15

    Enwright later co-authored a book that was semi-autobiographical, centred on Archer Fish's sinking of Shinano (and, yes, that is how the crew of the sub wrote its name - Archer Fish). The book's title is 'SHINANO- The Sinking Of Japan's Secret Supership'.
    His first war cruises as a sub commander were unsuccessful and, to Enwright's credit, he blamed his own decisions rather than his sub or crew for this. It is fair to say that sheer bad luck and his innate caution were the only real issues. But Enwright requested transfer to noncombat duties, despite his commander's willingness to let him stay. He served in important noncombat duties for a time, before eventually requesting a transfer back to combat duties, whereupon he was given Archer Fish.
    The Japanese believed an entire wolf pack of US subs were in the area. With that in mind, Shinano's commander became convinced that the lone US sub was some kind of decoy, meant to lure away his escorts. So he ordered the three escorting destroyers to stay close, and he was so obsessed with evading the (non-existent) wolf pack that Archer Fish was finally able to work into a reasonable firing position. No insane decisions involved, just persistence, a readiness to be unorthodox if necessary, and taking advantage of situations as they appeared.
    Four out of six of Archer Fish's torpedoes hit the carrier. For various reasons, Enwright had the torps set to run shallow, and this very fortuitously by-passed most of Shinano's torpedo protection. When they hit, Shinano maintained high speed, to evade the 'wolf pack', and this increased the water pouring in. That detail, plus not being properly seaworthy and having a green crew, is what doomed Shinano.
    Regarding the early cruiser / carrier confusion by the USN. The IJN typically named their cruisers after rivers, and their battleships after provinces, and "Shinano" was actually both of those things. So when they intercepted radio signals about the Shinano being sunk, it took a while to catch on to what had happened. Fortunately, one of Enwright's crew had carefully saved the drawings made of the carrier, and this proved to be important evidence.
    It is worth noting that in a later cruise, Archer Fish sank a Japanese sub. Noteworthy is that this submarine was actually operated by the Imperial Japanese ARMY, a carefully-kept secret from their hated Navy rivals.

  • @aaroncanniford9237
    @aaroncanniford9237 6 місяців тому

    Brilliant thanks mate

  • @kachmi
    @kachmi 4 місяці тому +1

    Amazing stories of technological advancement and heroism as always.

  • @carlosmoyna62
    @carlosmoyna62 6 місяців тому +5

    What the hell is the Sugar Loaf and a nuclear AC doing in this video? 8:09

  • @subdawg1331
    @subdawg1331 6 місяців тому

    great video exciting thank you

  • @drmarkintexas-400
    @drmarkintexas-400 6 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for sharing
    🇺🇲🎖️⭐🙏🏆

  • @sandpiper888
    @sandpiper888 3 місяці тому

    I went in USS Archer Fish when she visited Auckland on a goodwill cruise in or around 1966. What a brilliant success.

  • @user-zj5kd8hk7d
    @user-zj5kd8hk7d 6 місяців тому +13

    いろいろあったし、いろいろと時間がなく、いろいろ残念な点が多い信濃ですが、ルックスは大和型三番艦だけあって最強の風格です。
    もうどうにもならない海軍の末期を象徴してしまいましたね。

  • @JohnDoe-tx8lq
    @JohnDoe-tx8lq 6 місяців тому +10

    I would have thought it would be 'relatively' easy to have a quick release attachment to the periscope viewer - were the captain looks at (not the top!) - with a simple camera. Plenty of time when tracking a ship, which could be hours, to record what ships he's seeing.

    • @jamesricker3997
      @jamesricker3997 6 місяців тому +5

      1940s technology had its limitations

    • @JohnDoe-tx8lq
      @JohnDoe-tx8lq 6 місяців тому +1

      @@jamesricker3997 ??? they had periscopes to look through and they had cameras...

    • @larryclemens1850
      @larryclemens1850 6 місяців тому

      It might have to do with the shelf life of exposed film in the 1940's. Just a guess. But on the surface, it seems so obvious that a detachable camera would be the obvious solution that there has to be a valid technical reason it didn't happen.

  • @Renshen1957
    @Renshen1957 6 місяців тому +1

    The Shinano’s intended mission was as an Aircraft Carrier Auxiliary-Tender to supply replacements, with machine and other shops for repairs, stores for aircraft parts repairs, stores for machinery, etc. to service the remaining Fleet IJN Fleet Carriers. The weren’t enough IJN pilots in November 1944, the month after the Battle of Cape Enganio, one less Fleet Carrier and three Less Light Carriers used as bait to lure the USN Forces of Leyte as it was. The Shinano carried Ohka (Baka) Bombs, and Shinyo suicide boats. An incomplete ship moved after being spotted by a reconnaissance plane. The unfinished vessel moving without ASW Destroyers (the three available were back from the Battle of Leyte Gulf and required three days repairs to make way, in an series of events leading for disaster.
    The Skipper of the Archerfish on his previous command missed an opportunity to target a Japanese carrier (with the gosh awful poor design US Mark 14 Torpedoes probably wouldn’t have detonated) put himself on report.
    For all those TOS Star Trek fans in one of two episodes of Silent Service he starred is seen with The Archerfish shoots straight, DeForest Kelly in the Captain’s role and is on UA-cam.
    From one interview, De Kelley said he was offered choice of the three lead roles by Gene Roddenberry (Kelley had much more credentials including A Film co-starting in Gun Fight at the Okay Corral as one of the Earp Brothers) with Burt Lancaster.
    The whole shoot out was over Gun Control, the Cowboys (the synonym for rustlers-outlaws, as no self respecting cattlemen called themselves Ranchers) wouldn’t follow the local Gun ordinance of turning in their weapons with either the Hotel or Sheriff’s office. Tombstone was no different than Abilene or elsewhere in the Western Frontier, but films are less dramatic without “artistic license” bending the truth.

  • @dritzzdarkwood4727
    @dritzzdarkwood4727 6 місяців тому +21

    "Archerfish fired six torpedos at the carrier"
    "At least six of Enright's torpedoes hit Shinano"
    - so more torpedoes than he fired hit the ship?
    In reality four out of six torpedoes hit the carrier.
    "Soon, the Captain gave the order to abandon ship"
    - No he didn't. Captain Abe could not bring himself to utter the words so he said, "You're are released from duty. Save yourselves!"

    • @Normandy1944
      @Normandy1944 6 місяців тому +5

      This is exactly why I don't watch a lot of video from Dark Seas. The content is misleading and not totally accurate (as you point out)...as well in this video, using a shot of an LCT in dry dock and the Ben Franklin burning to portray a IJN carrier. That is some lazy editing.

    • @martinadams7949
      @martinadams7949 6 місяців тому +10

      My dad was on the archerfish, he said there was more, in what I remember in the rear torpedo room a fish was fired without a command from the captain. Didn't go through fire control, so it didn't get counted. Dad's copy of the unit citation hangs on our wall.

    • @jimrobinson684
      @jimrobinson684 6 місяців тому +2

      I know I heard that and had to play it back again like wth🤣

    • @parrot849
      @parrot849 6 місяців тому +2

      I’ve never viewed a Dark Seas or Dark (fill in the blank) channel video that wasn’t loaded with errors and mistakes. Makes ya wonder how can a content creator consistently do such lousy research so often?

  • @merylsmith8297
    @merylsmith8297 5 днів тому

    Abe: If this ship leaves drydock in this condition, it will sink
    Japanese admirals: Bet

  • @douglassauvageau7262
    @douglassauvageau7262 6 місяців тому +1

    Enright personifies the term 'STALWART'.

  • @manofchaitea6904
    @manofchaitea6904 6 місяців тому +2

    Japan -Shinano, so compartmentalized its nearly unsinkable !
    Archerfish Crew- Challenge accepted !
    On another note, rest in peace to the crew of the Shinano. Humans urge to kill each other is truly our downfall as a species.

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 6 місяців тому +4

    Some great video of US WW2 carriers, particularly Wasp (?), some carriers with very post-war angled decks and some carrying US aircraft, a US Landing Craft Tank, one american nuclear boat, and a couple of pictures of Shinano.
    Shinano's conversion wasn't to make up for losses of other carriers. The decision was taken before those losses had occurred. Rather, in light of the emerging vulnerability of battleships to air attack and the expected completion date being still 4 years away it was decided that to build her as a carrier would be both quicker and more militarily useful.
    I'm sure others will have commmented that her role was not as fleet carrier but as a logistics ship to transport replacement aircraft and materiel to the fleet.
    Although captain of the boat, Enright was actually a commander at this time. He regarded his failure to sink Shokaku a year before as a personal one as it was, contrary to your script, nothing to do with the usual issue of the unpredictable Mk14 torpedos as he never got into a firing position. Rather it was down to poor tactics in the approach. Also, he was not 'removed from command' but requested this himself, hence Adm Lockwood's approval of his promotion to full cdr and of his request to be returned to a sea command.
    Archerfish only had 6 torpedos to fire from the forward tubes; Enright fired all of them so your phrase 'at least six hit' is bizarre.
    According to your video clips Archerfish appears to have hit the USS Wasp.
    The scepticism of the Naval Intelligence branch is understandable as they did not know of Shinano and had all other IJN carriers accounted for.
    Good story, strange choice of video clips, some strange and avoidable errors.

    • @tommcadam9897
      @tommcadam9897 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, I was pretty sure the nuclear boat at 10:25 was not a time traveler. Thanks for confirming that.

  • @hotironaircraftshop
    @hotironaircraftshop 6 місяців тому +6

    28,000 tons, on a hull designed for 60,000+ tons. Really?

    • @JH-wd6dp
      @JH-wd6dp 6 місяців тому +2

      Perhaps I am mistaken, but the 28,000 ton may be specifically referring to the citation given before the later revelation of what they actually sank. It sounds like there was resistance to giving full credit, and maybe mentioning whether the citation was amended later was an oversight.

  • @vincedibona4687
    @vincedibona4687 6 місяців тому +2

    Nice.

  • @anthonybenash3457
    @anthonybenash3457 6 місяців тому +2

    You should look into when the SS-305 Skate attacked the Yamato.

  • @stevengibson3641
    @stevengibson3641 6 місяців тому

    So epic!

  • @michaelmccotter4293
    @michaelmccotter4293 6 місяців тому +5

    Shinano was 68000 tons.

  • @bigbirddottv
    @bigbirddottv 6 місяців тому +1

    I've spent hours speaking to the sonor officer when i was as kid.

  • @shawnbeckmann1847
    @shawnbeckmann1847 6 місяців тому +6

    Why do you keep calling it a small submarine all United States submarines were approximately 311 feet long Gato, Balao, and Tench class.

    • @webbtrekker534
      @webbtrekker534 6 місяців тому +1

      He's civilian who thinks he's a naval historian. And, yes about 311 feet. Depended on the yard doing the building as to what the final length turned out to be.

  • @the1magageneral323
    @the1magageneral323 6 місяців тому +3

    If you ever saw that old tv show Run silent, run deep, they had an episode on this sub.

    • @davidroby7290
      @davidroby7290 6 місяців тому +1

      The Silent Service. Deforest Kelly played Enright

    • @the1magageneral323
      @the1magageneral323 6 місяців тому

      @@davidroby7290 That's it.

  • @vanceb1
    @vanceb1 6 місяців тому +2

    It just amazes me how they attacked from such a short distance. At sea, 1400 yards is nothing.

  • @castrojank5653
    @castrojank5653 3 місяці тому

    Shimano was a engineering Marvel of the Japanese Navy. It had it all but due to the cause of losing the war Shimano was discharged though not fully completed it went for a trail run and that's when it's loss occurred. Good presentation. 😅😅

  • @Glenn-em3hv
    @Glenn-em3hv 6 місяців тому +3

    You know what is crazy is the so called emperor they called son of heaven wore glasses!!!
    Wouldn't you think that the Japanese people would know he wasn't any god and just a flawed man???

  • @FIKOE
    @FIKOE 24 дні тому +1

    08:10 The footage shows an aircraft carrier entering the Guanabara Bay in Rio de Janeiro City, with a clear view of the Sugar Loaf mountain close behind the ship and the Corcovado Montain further back! Of course it can't be Shinano in this part of the world.

    • @celomonte
      @celomonte 23 дні тому

      Suuuuuuper zoom lenses!!!!

  • @dandeyo2617
    @dandeyo2617 5 місяців тому

    The Shinano was not designed as a fleet aircraft carrier. She was designed to ferry naval aircraft to other aircraft carriers to replenish losses. This was a similar tactic that the British used in the Pacific Ocean at the end of the war.

  • @GH-oi2jf
    @GH-oi2jf 6 місяців тому +1

    Not “insane.” It was “daring” or “valiant.” “Insane” is frequently misused these days, as a standin for many more fitting adjectives.

  • @iainstewart9844
    @iainstewart9844 16 днів тому

    I cannot believe the submarine would send a signal before starting the chase. The risk is high of the signal burst being picked up and cross bearings being taken which would alert the Japanese to the presence of an unifentified vessel near a high value capital ship.

  • @gregatkinson7276
    @gregatkinson7276 6 місяців тому +1

    Good video but always a thumbs down for damned unsolicited ad interruption.

  • @danielcorcoran7132
    @danielcorcoran7132 4 місяці тому +1

    72000 ton carrier, right?

  • @jimmysweat2200
    @jimmysweat2200 6 місяців тому +3

    The Shimano sister ship to Yamato and musashi battleship 90,000 tons
    100 aircraft

  • @mikep490
    @mikep490 3 місяці тому

    I was always amazed that a single sub, hitting with 4 torpedos, could take down a Yamato class and the admiralty would NEVER believe such a tale if they knew the ship was of that class. After all, it took 19 torpedo hits and 17 bombs to take down her sister ship. IIRC it was 2 torpedos hitting the same weak spot between armor belts, avgas leaking into the torpedo belt and exploding, over confidence and poor training of the crew, lax (overconfidence) of the captain, and poor construction (mostly in the failed water tight doors) that combined to make it a loss. It's truly one of the oddest stories in naval history.

    • @politicsuncensored5617
      @politicsuncensored5617 3 місяці тому

      The Shinano had not been completed. Many of her compartments were wide open and she only had a skeleton crew because she was still under construction. 𝗦𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗼𝗺

    • @mikep490
      @mikep490 3 місяці тому

      @@politicsuncensored5617 When the compartments started flooding, crew members felt air rushing past the closed doors, followed by water rushing past, per reports. I understand they hadn't had time to test if the water tight doors were tight.

  • @desubtilizer
    @desubtilizer 4 місяці тому

    The Shinano was a half sister ship of the Yamato and the Musashi but it was far too heavy and slow as an aircraft carrier so was more of a resupply ship for aircraft and munitions. The torpedoes probably hit the ship in its thinner armour used to build the remaininder of the ship as an aircraft carrier.

  • @7thrx
    @7thrx 6 місяців тому +1

    I keep thinking you're saying utrefisch

  • @just-dl
    @just-dl 6 місяців тому +1

    I believe only four torpedoes struck the carrier.

  • @christianbuczko1481
    @christianbuczko1481 6 місяців тому +1

    The ship may be impressive, but they didnt have any aircraft to make use of its potential. It was a total waste of resources and time.

  • @timvilleneuve7244
    @timvilleneuve7244 5 місяців тому

    It's the "Final Countdown"!

  • @WorthTalking2
    @WorthTalking2 6 місяців тому +2

    why so many(1,435) souls lost if approx an hour earlier the captain gave the order to abandon ship?

    • @martinadams7949
      @martinadams7949 6 місяців тому +2

      My dad read the Japanese account, the shipyard workers uniforms looked simular to officer uniforms, making a confusing situation.

  • @situationalawarenes
    @situationalawarenes 6 місяців тому +2

    There were no more pilots for the planes for the carrier. So it was useless.

  • @mchume65
    @mchume65 5 місяців тому +1

    The sub first shown in this video appears to be a 50's or 60's nuclear submarine. I think I saw the USS Enterprise CVN-65 at one point. Many of the vessels shown have nothing to do with the story. To be fair, most WW2 documentaries show incorrect machinery. Aircraft, ships, tanks, not only the wrong ones, but often on the wrong side.

  • @neohhorkee454
    @neohhorkee454 6 місяців тому

    Shinano:nani?!

  • @dailyqwikbytes
    @dailyqwikbytes 4 місяці тому

    What was "insane" about it? Enright handled and fought USS ARCHERFISH superbly and handled the entire encounter superbly. Even before that he showed his metal when he surrendered command of USS DACE when he thought he didn't have the right stuff. He was wrong about that, obviously.

  • @michaelellis3091
    @michaelellis3091 4 місяці тому

    Did you say this sub decided to attack this carrier in 1924? I think that may have been difficult!

  • @dx1450
    @dx1450 5 місяців тому

    Imagine sinking a huge aircraft carrier but not knowing exactly what it was until after the war...

  • @Brian-bp5pe
    @Brian-bp5pe 6 місяців тому +3

    "Titanic undertaking" pretty much summarizes this story.

  • @williamdodge5123
    @williamdodge5123 6 місяців тому

    USS DIXON AS-37 81 Diego Garcia, Tending Submarines and Surface warcrafraft during the Iranian hostage issue.

  • @Del_S
    @Del_S 6 місяців тому +1

    *By* accident. This isn't Barney the Dinosaur.

  • @scottbrady6240
    @scottbrady6240 Місяць тому

    SHE GON BE WAITING A LOOOOOOONG TIME THEN

  • @mod91Kauai
    @mod91Kauai 6 місяців тому

    Best channel on UA-cam.

  • @johnemerson1363
    @johnemerson1363 17 днів тому

    Where is the wreck? I've seen photos of the wreck of Yorktown, Kaga and Akagi. None of Shinano.

  • @cgbdfb52
    @cgbdfb52 4 місяці тому

    Only 4 of the torpedoes hit the Shinano, not all six.

  • @jeffhelton2735
    @jeffhelton2735 17 днів тому

    True if straight on course he could have put ran it but rules of war he followed as any commander would do

  • @11bravocrunchie22
    @11bravocrunchie22 6 місяців тому +1

    8:09 Did you seriously include a black and white picture of CVN-65 in a documentary of the IJN Shinano?

    • @cwulfe1
      @cwulfe1 6 місяців тому +1

      Maybe it also went back in time the same as the Nimitz? 😆

  • @harryshriver6223
    @harryshriver6223 6 місяців тому

    Wow, what a feather in your cap for singing the largest carrier ever in World War II. I am certain every member of the crew is proud of their accomplishments but do not revel in the fact over a thousand sailors that went down with the ship.

  • @williamdodge5123
    @williamdodge5123 6 місяців тому

    Got the best of both worlds. Subs & Birdfarms!
    Semper Fortis
    Semper Fidelis

  • @jimkeats891
    @jimkeats891 6 місяців тому

    Did the USS Dace "miss"" the Shikako...or did the Mark 14 strike again? There's no date provided.

  • @henriyoung3895
    @henriyoung3895 6 місяців тому +1

    You are loosing me. Why show German Submarine captains and crew in an American sub story.
    WHY show a modern Submarine from 1970 in a WW2 video. TOTAL THUMBS DOWN

  • @mikearakelian6368
    @mikearakelian6368 16 днів тому

    Dont like ads st begining...no sale

  • @danquigg8311
    @danquigg8311 5 місяців тому

    You could at the very least show a WWII era US submarine in the opening moments of this video! I'm not sure what sub was in this clip, but it was NOT a Balao class boat.

  • @robertwittjr1198
    @robertwittjr1198 6 місяців тому +3

    11:15 and then, the kriegsmarine joined the party...

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 5 місяців тому

    3:10 -"This conversion was both a 'titanic' undertaking..."
    - 'Titanic' undertaking? Let's see, "largest of its time," "below deck/equipped with state-of-the-art technology including extensive compartmentalization to enhance her survivability. An (almost) unsinkable ship."
    -Sunk on her maiden voyage by unforeseen forces. Yeup, 'Titanic' undertaking.

  • @richardhaddock5660
    @richardhaddock5660 25 днів тому

    Why is there a picture of Enterprise CVN 65 in this video?

  • @morganhalfyard6266
    @morganhalfyard6266 Місяць тому

    6 torpedoes were fired but only 4 hit

  • @American0069
    @American0069 24 дні тому

    Most of the videos are inaccurate. The carrier on fire near the end was the USS Franklin.

  • @jeffreyleonard7210
    @jeffreyleonard7210 5 місяців тому

    "Gut feeling" led to sending the torpedoes higher than protocol.
    How was this helpful in this case?

  • @rikisewell1813
    @rikisewell1813 4 місяці тому

    Most of the pictures have nothing to do with the described action. Some are not even WW2 submarines.

  • @BELCAN57
    @BELCAN57 4 місяці тому

    Shinano out of luck !

  • @stevemundy4511
    @stevemundy4511 6 місяців тому +2

    *BY accident...

  • @troystallard6895
    @troystallard6895 5 місяців тому

    As a former US Navy sailor, I assure you it's pronounced Ya'kuska, not yo-ko-suka, in spite of the spelling. 🙂

  • @franksmall1313
    @franksmall1313 4 місяці тому

    Early in the war the torpedoes failed to go off when they hit. Higher Up's push the wrong onto the sub's calling them useless. A coverup went on for some time and men plus sub's died because the higher up's had a hand in making the torpedoe's bluepaints.

  • @SvenTviking
    @SvenTviking 6 місяців тому

    HMS Seraph?

  • @goodstufffromdavidpaul2246
    @goodstufffromdavidpaul2246 6 місяців тому

    There are several points where the film is clearly NOT showing the USS Archerfish...
    eg. 10:27 plus...multiple models of periscopes. You've done better.

  • @johndyson4109
    @johndyson4109 6 місяців тому

    The Americans have pretty much always have had the best Subs...

  • @paul85039
    @paul85039 6 місяців тому

    I just wonder how many planes went down with her ? Does anyone know,???

  • @10021walshke
    @10021walshke 5 місяців тому

    "Mainland Tokyo"??

  • @OregonChuck
    @OregonChuck 5 місяців тому +1

    The story is good and well known. However, the inclusion of so many unrelated film clips, even U-boat clips, ruins it for me. I don't think I'll bother with Dark Seas again.

  • @williamdodge5123
    @williamdodge5123 6 місяців тому

    USS FORRESTAL CV-59 82 Mediterranean/Indian 82

  • @Landy1jade1
    @Landy1jade1 6 місяців тому

    Here for the “ My _______ served in the USS Archerfish 🧢” Comments

  • @paulkirkland3263
    @paulkirkland3263 4 місяці тому

    Why was the decision 'insane' ?

  • @scottbrady6240
    @scottbrady6240 Місяць тому

    I JUST REALIZED I LOVE MY XBOX 😂😂😂

  • @sticksbass
    @sticksbass 5 місяців тому

    docked in s.f.?