Rakitic’s point about the first team being too good for any youth prospect to get in is spot on. What frustrates me as a United fan is that most of our first team players clearly aren’t good enough to play for us and yet the youth still don’t get their chance. If we’d been blooding them in properly since the start of the season we’d probably have some consistency by now.
Barcelona have a same problem with Man United. They didnt play and manage the club with their own philosophy and identity, instead using galacticos football. Man United start since 2014, and Barca start since 2016. As long as their president still on top, the downfall will always there.
steven cooke We’re not seeing enough game time for the likes of Gomes, Garner and Greenwood. Five mins at the end of a game that we’re losing away from home isn’t good enough.
iwantgoals 15 exactly it’s frustrating because Gomes should easily slot into that midfield but he’s of in the summer his contract is over and he ain’t getting chances when he knows that he should
@@iwantgoals1566 I like the idea of giving the young ones a chance to shine. But what do you do with players like Pogba who may not want to be around for this sort of trial? I don't think the team had any sort of plan for this year. Fergie must be out of his mind.
The board doesn't give a flying fuck about anything that's not bussiness and Valverde just wants to keep the position whatever it takes. We're in the SHIT.
What do you mean no success? They have won la liga and the copa del rey almost every year for the past 5 years. That's success if you ask me. Now if you are especifically talking about the Champions League, that's another story.
It's so interesting to see that now, 4 years after the video, Xavi gave the confidence and trust needed to the youth players and we are witnessing the rebirth of la Masia with talents like Gavi, Balde, Yammal, Fermin and Cubarsi
The very core of this club is rotten at the moment. Everything, from on-field play to the ideology and values, is deranged. The board is the exact opposite of what you expect from a Barca board: marquee signings without any plan (Coutinho and Griezmann), signings that don't fit (Andre Gomes and Paulinho), poor wage bill regulation, poor la Masia management. Everything's is rotten. And Valverde is basically helping them on the field by trying to literally bring barca to bilbao's level as he had vowed to when he was Athletic's coach. And the sad part is that I don't see this changing until the next presidential elections.
@@sanjith619 didn't say he wasn't. I said the board knew he wasn't the barca type player but still they went for him. Luckily for them, he turned out good.
Great video! It makes so much sense on the current club situations like AC Milan and Manchester United. Its reasonable to think that when you spend a fortune on expensive players that they'll make the team better again, but now thinking back on when these teams were strong, the majority of the players where part of the youth academy of that certain club and it just shows how important it is to incorporate it. Sorta like how Manchester City are always on top because the majority of the players have either known each other for many years, so the years of playing together is why they are where they are at the moment or from the academy, where Ajax last season proved how that factor helped to get where they were in the Champions.
Could you please make a video on the new rb Salzburg team under Jesse marsch or a player profile on erling haaland braut. Keep the good work up as always👍
Has there been a video done on Chelsea's academy? 7 FA Youth Cup in 10 years and 2 time winner of the UEFA Youth League, plus it seems like there's going to be a new generation of academy products breaking through and forming the back bone of the team. Tomori, Reece James, CHO,RLC,Mount and Tammy Abraham.
it's not about other team and their academies. Barca was world-famous for their youth prospects and academy just like Ajax and their downfall will get noticed around the globe.
They had a good system but u cant ignore the fact u cant u cant reproduce xavi iniesta easily. Their philosophy may just hold it back by not acknowledging that sometimes individuals are needed like a ronaldinho. They promoted pedro giovanni and bojan amongst other but momentum can only hide flaws for so long. Look at world football as a whole there are no dribblers. Wheres a new rivaldo denilson djalminha figo. Everythings passing based
Thiago and Grimaldo and Denis Suarez already left, Roberto and Alena and Sergi Samper are criminally under used inspite of their huge potential . barca buying Dembele for 120M and he is either injured or not played at all because he is a bad fit tactically. same as Vidal, Paulinho, Coutinho, Griezman, Turan, Malcom , Andre Gomez, Paco Alcacer, Vermaelen and the list goes on. basically the the board is throwing ideas on the wall and seeing what sticks. and thinking that money solves everything. its just like Real Madrid's Galacticos and PSG. while clubs like Ajax and Dortmund crush the champions league with their academy graduates.
The thing about clubs like Ajax and Dortmund is that they're not very consistent. Ajax is practically playing UCL every year since the 2000s and last year was the only time they got that far. They get eliminated from the group stage most of the time in the last 20 years. They have a very "romantic and idealistic" footballing system where if everything goes right it's the most beautiful form of football. However, that does not happen too often in modern football. It's been proven time and time again that you have to spend a lot to build a consistent and competitive squad.
@@gaoru Guardiola's Barca is probably the most consistent team in football history and its not just about what they won its that they won using the system that they developed for years and revolutionized tactics in a way that made them basically unplayable. the important thing that they proved it can be done. I agree that their golden generation is very hard to replicate consistently but what is happening now is the complete opposite of what made the club great. Im barca fan and I would'nt mind a transition period every a couple of seasons to refresh the squad and not be as dominant as long as they stay true to their philosophy (promote from within, possession based tactics etc.) but my problem is that they have made an 180 turn and still are under achieving. I loved the MSN era aswell tbh but it was the start of this downfall.
Yup. What most people claim to be talking about "Barca style" they really mean Pep style. Because they won so much with him they got spoiled for trophies and bitch and moan when it doesn't happen every season.
It wasn't just Guardiola leaving; losing him along with the two top executives,Txiki and Ferran, along side Pep precipitated this decline. Now, the three of them are building their own La Masia equivalent in Manchester.
The video should have ended when he said that Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Puyol, Valdez etc got a lot of playing time. La Masia hasn't stopped producing talented players, they have stopped giving them chances because of the pressure. Players like Delofeu, Bojan etc who didn't reach their full potential it's because they didn't get enough chances to develop and had a lot of pressure. At least now Setien gives opportunities to young players like Fati and the rest of the promising group they have now
It's so sad and disheartening. I have an unpopular opinion - "Let my club play the most beautiful football ever seen and I don't care about the results". But ofcourse the board does care about the money above anything else and so results are more important. The board has been buying players who don't even fit into the squad. Idiots taking charge of our club and ruining it
That 60 minutes under Villanova was a bit of a misnomer though, because there were several players they had had to buy back. So it wasnt all perfect Pique. Alba. Fabregas. All left before returning.
I used to think there was a time where there literally was a conveyor belt of barca players to fill weaknesses in their first XI. Shame Busquets marked probably the best and last example in the end
Barcelonia signed Louie Barry from us West Bromwich Albion, we coached him for 9 years. Still waiting for the poultry fee off £235k. Pay up or we will send in the Baliffs.
Players from La Masia have gone from dreaming of the 1st team to having to move somewhere else, but they still shine wherever they end up. Adam Traore is a perfect example, he's been a highly impressive at Wolves. Aleña was shining at Barcelona when he played but he had a rift with the team after they took his number 21 and gave it to De Jong without any sort of communication. Ever since they won their 2nd treble they stopped focusing on young players and decided to spend on players that clearly weren't ready to play at the level Barcelona play in. Dembele barely proved himself at Dortmund. Coutinho had good performances but no titles to follow it up with, and that is what he is lacking. A winning mentality is necessary to play at the level of Barcelona and Real Madrid.
Great video and well covered but lately it seems like a bunch of players are breaking through. There are real issues that you point out but the system is not totally broken.
Kind of a symptom how football has gone overall. I used to watch so much football, playing football manager and as a kid, playing football every day.. last 5 years, I’ve barely watched anything.
Kubo has the potential to make Barca cry for losing him. That kid is extremely talented, and if it was 10 years ago, he would have been on his sure way to be one of the best players on the planet.
Part of the problem is you don’t come out of the academy as a world class player. If a young inestia comes up through the academy with this Barca side he likely does not make it. The team right now seem to want instant success and results and are less likely to give out opportunities to develop.
Tbh the only real losses that Barca suffered from La Masia were Thiago Alcantara and Grimaldo. All the others weren't up to scratch, Bartra would of made a decent bench warmer but obviously it's his choice to seek glory elsewhere.
But it still doesn't make sense when they spend ridiculous sums of cash for marquee players with no backup plans. Barcelona 8 years ago was winning the Champion's League with the majority of the squad being academy products. Now we see the results against Liverpool and Roma, whose squads cost half as much as Barcelona's current frontline...
Remember watching the old BBC Barcelona documentary, with Rosell and Laporta saying they needed to 'remove the old regime'... little did Laporta know the calamities that would follow Rosell's presidency
Barcelona's board and fan's ego is what happened. Yes true they always had players from the academy on the first team but they weren't particularly relying on them as much as they like to boast about.
Is not just that the main team was so good, if you are gonna give new talent an opportunity then you must accept that there is a risk of losing some games, Barca hold on too much to the golden generation for fear of losing thus they didn't gave opportunities out of fear
La Massia was No. 1 but now that honour goes to Manchester United's Academy... there's a clear effort to keep bringing youth players through and when they don't make it to the first team, they tend to go on to great careers elsewhere... Barça has lost its way.
I believe the short answer here is Pep Guardiola. It's not like La Masia was doing that much better before Pep came compared to how than they are now. He was the one who let lots of first-team players move on and decided to promote youth players instead of buying from elsewhere and it worked. The managers who came after him obviously didn't even feel the need to make changes as drastic as he did since he left them with an amazing squad. And to be fair, even the likes of Iniesta and Xavi weren't in the conversation of being the best midfielders in the world before Pep and his tiki-taka style came around. Who knows, perhaps even Messi wouldn't have turned out the way he is now if not for Pep's influence. The successes Barca reaped with that golden generation also made it harder to promote youngsters, much like Rakitič said. Even if Pep was still there, he wouldn't have promoted as many players as he did before because there would be no need for it, but also probably because Barca have been so successful that it made sense for them to bring in proven quality instead of youngsters to keep the ball rolling in terms of success on the pitch. And it's a shame the board wasn't as convinced in their own youth as Pep was back in the days because I agree with the statement that they went out of their way to buy players like Gomes and Digne when they probably had decent enough replacements in the academy. The thing is they'd have to wait for the youngsters to grow for a season or two and they simply didn't want to take that gamble which is quite ironic in my opinion because it was the same gamble when Pep did his squad reconstruction and it rewarded them greatly.
This paradigm is why I am excited about Man United today. To be honest I don't really care about the short term results right now, although the way Ole overturned the season recently before COVID was also exciting. After 7 years of decline and heartbreak, we now have a youth that is bubbling with talents waiting to break into the first team, and a manager that is finally place his faith in the youth, having actually overseen the youth system a decade ago. I can't wait to see how this youth starting from Rashford, Greenwood, Williams (, hopefully Pogba too, if he stays committed) and down the ranks, will emerge to be the next spine of the club.
I think one of the reason why they couldn't achieve their aims is to raise insufficent players out of their academy like Isaac Cuenca, Bartra so on an so forth. By the way put Messi, Xavi, Iniesta crew aside, the most talented players was Thiago but he also can not be top player and they sent to him other big European club.
Barca hit the lotto and they figured Christmas comes once a year and they didn't bother to develop the next generation. Buying Countihno was the writing on the wall that they had given up on their philosophy to develop their own world class talent.
Well... Ansu Fati. That is all. Now, the inability to grow or bring in a quality fullback -- one that can outrun an elderly with a hip problem, unlike Pique, is indeed an issue.
Barca will be so fucked when Messi retires or leaves. Maybe not crashing as hard as man united (Messi's influence on Barca does not even come close to sir Alex), but it will still be hard fall, worse than what Madrid is experiencing right now.
The board is beyond incompetent in every aspect. They hire bad managers/decision makers with no long term visions and are consistently saved by Messi. The day Messi retires/leaves this club will be in shambles.
The moment Suarez is done (which I hate to say is coming in the next couple year or so), they will start to apply Band-Aid solution by spending big money on the transfer market. This is the consequence of result based football, the board doesn’t want to go through the phase “rebuilding” when players are getting old, now they have to eat their own shit by keep spending money instead of bringing talents through la masia.
I find it hard to believe that so many people think that La Masia is the best youth academy in the world, they hit the jackpot with there golden generation, just like many great teams have done through the history of football. La Masia and Johan Cruyff developed their identity by copying Ajax and Rinus Michels tactics and training methods.(That is not a criticism) The greatest youth setup belongs to Ajax, they have produced more elite footballers than any other club in the world and have done so for nearly 50 years.
Great post. I agree, except for one thing. Cruyff is the one who invented total football. Many players who were present at the time all stated Michels was always listening to Cruyff. Michels may have given his own spin, but Cruyff was miles ahead of anyone when it came to football philosophy and tactics.
@@Snacks079 and the definition of his Total football is "a tactical theory in football in which any outfield player can take over the role of any other player in a team." Yet so many fake ass Barca fans memeing and moaning that the coach is always "playing people out of position", not even realizing that when he was a player he played under Johan.
Valid point. We should also notice one of the best youth academy at Atalanta in italy. They've consistently producing remarkable young talents for years, seamlessly integrating them into first team, while achieving excellent results in the end
@@Snacks079 David Winners book Beautiful Orange has numerous interviews with players from the 70s Ajax side that counter your claim. The best football that Ajax side played wasn't under Michels and absolutely no one claims that Cruyff dictated how that side played. The football Barcelona played under Cruyff didn't resemble the Total Football in anything but the general formation 433/343 and didn't have an emphasis on la masia graduates. That's something Cruyff only spoke of and tried putting into practice after seeing the success that Van Gaal had with it. The legacy of Cruyff shouldn't need to peddle such falsehoods as are commonly stated to proclaim his greatness.
Simple explanation, when a club or any company is at a peak for so long. They are more than likely to use all measures to maintain their peak even to the point of undermining what took them here in the first place. From a bigger picture, what we see Barcelona has been doing is no different from what big companies like Microsoft and Apple did to stay on top. Edit: You can also see the United States doing similar things at a different level just to stay as the top superpower. they acquire so much debt, fight pointless wars, military spendings etc. It has already undermined the economic prosperity of many Americans.
Don't think so. They have realized what players are aging and slowly phase them out. They are actually quite good at such transitions. They let the aging legends stay to play 60 minutes or as subs until they finally go out with a nice ceremony, and they are always welcome back as staff or management. They have brought in so many players in the past few seasons, all have done quite well, except for one flop and a few really good ones plagued by injuries (Vermaelen, Rahfina, Dembele, Umtiti and Neymar to some extent). Their only difficulty has been their reaction to losing Neymar so suddenly. They haven't really gotten that 3rd striker which makes a powerful trio, because when you have that you win a lot of stuff (look at City and Liverpool now). Hell they even finally got a backup for Jordi Alba and he's not that old.
@@jjryan1352 You are so lost it's not funny. The players that are bought has not done well and have not fit into the team much of them not even playing consistently. Politics destroy great clubs and Messi certainly is on his way down.
Youneke Browne That’s why I always liked Real Madrid more. They simply are a football club. While Barca I feel have an identity issue on the politics aspect “more than a club” (Catalonia) vs focusing on football traditions.
I remember when Barcelona beat Real Madrid 5-0 in 2010, I don't know if there was a player that wasn't from La Masia that played (other than David Villa) and it was magical. Players like Issac Cuenca, Jeffren, Bojan and even Pedro at the time where all young players who were given game time in one of the most important games of the season. I don't know if they will ever go back to having as much faith in their youngsters as they used to. A real shame, I fear Barcelona will fade into mediocrity once Messi retires.
Once Messi retires I think Barcelona will either realize the importance of youth players after 2-3 mid-table seasons, or become Manchester United basically
If they are able to find some new talent to grow in the progress I'm totally fine if they lose a game or 2. It's a growing pain. The thing is that is never the case. It's more problematic if you win the game in a wrong way, or in our case, not the barca way.
Real Madrid are not so stable neither. This just means that La Liga would be exciting to watch again after so many years. I remember when teams like Deportivo, Atletico, Villareal, Valencia, Betis, Sevilla and even Real Sociedad (Nihat. Alonso, Kovacevic era) were serious title contenders
@@SurferWilly right.... Even the epl has become a 2 horse race now....la liga will be exciting this season... Especially if barca keeps Valverde for another season and don't sack him like rn
@@GGININDER591 yea man since last 2 years every time we won.. It wasn't due to our amazing football but just individual quality.. Sometimes Leo or ter stegen... We should focus on the brand of football and after that try to get results...
Barcelona fans blaming Valverde, no, it’s your board who wants to sign attackers when it’s clear to the entire world that the midfield and defence needs a complete revamp. But you keep focusing on Neymar 👍
@shane we have pretty good midfield imo with Arthur de jong vidal busquets and vidal also we could play rakitic for league games. we need experienced defender who can play with pique
This is why I don't mind the Chelsea transfer ban too much. We've had one of the regularly strongest youth teams in the world, with all this youth talent stored away and never used until eventually they left. That's why we don't have De Bruyne and Salah at the club. The transfer ban forces us to give them a go
@Sam of course youngsters are made for long term plans. So I guess it will pay off one day. I mean chelsea have state of the art and top class academies which Chelsea can use it.
You dont have KDB and MS because yous deemed them not good enough and they have went on to better things while yous havent but whatever helps you sleep at night.
@@Jie67 We won the league twice since they left. Also it was Mourinho's short term ideas that deemed them not good enough no one else wanted them to go.
Riku T I just happened to say the same word but I meant TS, valverde isn’t the main problem, he is part of the problem and the core of the problem is the board and the president. People just use valverde as a scapegoat and the board is fine with it as long as the fingers don’t point at themselves
I saw an interview of Edwin van der Sar. He told that the game has changed and that they had to adapt to that in Ajax youth academy by teaching the players to play faster than previously.
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Rakitic’s point about the first team being too good for any youth prospect to get in is spot on.
What frustrates me as a United fan is that most of our first team players clearly aren’t good enough to play for us and yet the youth still don’t get their chance. If we’d been blooding them in properly since the start of the season we’d probably have some consistency by now.
There is plenty of opportunity right now for a young attacking player at United.
Barcelona have a same problem with Man United. They didnt play and manage the club with their own philosophy and identity, instead using galacticos football. Man United start since 2014, and Barca start since 2016. As long as their president still on top, the downfall will always there.
steven cooke We’re not seeing enough game time for the likes of Gomes, Garner and Greenwood. Five mins at the end of a game that we’re losing away from home isn’t good enough.
iwantgoals 15 exactly it’s frustrating because Gomes should easily slot into that midfield but he’s of in the summer his contract is over and he ain’t getting chances when he knows that he should
@@iwantgoals1566 I like the idea of giving the young ones a chance to shine. But what do you do with players like Pogba who may not want to be around for this sort of trial?
I don't think the team had any sort of plan for this year. Fergie must be out of his mind.
Barcelona are hiring the wrong manager's and board's vision is not on youngsters. The board wants success now but even that isn't working.
Hopefully ansu fati can make the board realise they should focus on la masia again
you should know that valvared promoted more barca b players then anyone .....
When you have Messi in your team, the vision should be success now and not eternal postponing of success.
The board doesn't give a flying fuck about anything that's not bussiness and Valverde just wants to keep the position whatever it takes. We're in the SHIT.
What do you mean no success? They have won la liga and the copa del rey almost every year for the past 5 years. That's success if you ask me. Now if you are especifically talking about the Champions League, that's another story.
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A bit of a stretch
Joel Bakka how
at least better than oh my goal
@@joelbakka5127 Who is better?
@Red Pill X X That doesn't matter.
It's so interesting to see that now, 4 years after the video, Xavi gave the confidence and trust needed to the youth players and we are witnessing the rebirth of la Masia with talents like Gavi, Balde, Yammal, Fermin and Cubarsi
No other choice for Xavi
4:16 this exactly the problem, Barca doesn’t even try now. Thank you for exposing this, great in depth video.
The very core of this club is rotten at the moment. Everything, from on-field play to the ideology and values, is deranged. The board is the exact opposite of what you expect from a Barca board: marquee signings without any plan (Coutinho and Griezmann), signings that don't fit (Andre Gomes and Paulinho), poor wage bill regulation, poor la Masia management. Everything's is rotten. And Valverde is basically helping them on the field by trying to literally bring barca to bilbao's level as he had vowed to when he was Athletic's coach. And the sad part is that I don't see this changing until the next presidential elections.
Paulinho was good tho
@@sanjith619 didn't say he wasn't. I said the board knew he wasn't the barca type player but still they went for him. Luckily for them, he turned out good.
This board needs to be replaced right now
@@Ankitsingh-td5sz couldn't agree more.
Pretty similar to Manchester United’s situation
Great video! It makes so much sense on the current club situations like AC Milan and Manchester United. Its reasonable to think that when you spend a fortune on expensive players that they'll make the team better again, but now thinking back on when these teams were strong, the majority of the players where part of the youth academy of that certain club and it just shows how important it is to incorporate it. Sorta like how Manchester City are always on top because the majority of the players have either known each other for many years, so the years of playing together is why they are where they are at the moment or from the academy, where Ajax last season proved how that factor helped to get where they were in the Champions.
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Just when I think Tifo can't get any better you upload this video, well-done guys! 👏
Could you please make a video on the new rb Salzburg team under Jesse marsch or a player profile on erling haaland braut.
Keep the good work up as always👍
Has there been a video done on Chelsea's academy? 7 FA Youth Cup in 10 years and 2 time winner of the UEFA Youth League, plus it seems like there's going to be a new generation of academy products breaking through and forming the back bone of the team. Tomori, Reece James, CHO,RLC,Mount and Tammy Abraham.
How about Bayern's academy? Name me one good player to have come out of it since Alaba.
Not really
@Cole-Con O Kimmich was bought from RB Leipzig, not developed by Bayern.
@Cole-Con O nope
it's not about other team and their academies. Barca was world-famous for their youth prospects and academy just like Ajax and their downfall will get noticed around the globe.
Bayern are not that well recognised in producing top youth talents
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They had a good system but u cant ignore the fact u cant u cant reproduce xavi iniesta easily. Their philosophy may just hold it back by not acknowledging that sometimes individuals are needed like a ronaldinho. They promoted pedro giovanni and bojan amongst other but momentum can only hide flaws for so long. Look at world football as a whole there are no dribblers. Wheres a new rivaldo denilson djalminha figo. Everythings passing based
Dont forget that just cuz a player isnt what u had doesnt mean he isnt good enough now
@@isaacasamoa927 he may be good but he cant meet barca standards. the term world class get thrown about too much these days.
Xavi is in retirement so over 20 years since someone like him has been made noice
Very good piece
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Thiago and Grimaldo and Denis Suarez already left, Roberto and Alena and Sergi Samper are criminally under used inspite of their huge potential . barca buying Dembele for 120M and he is either injured or not played at all because he is a bad fit tactically. same as Vidal, Paulinho, Coutinho, Griezman, Turan, Malcom , Andre Gomez, Paco Alcacer, Vermaelen and the list goes on. basically the the board is throwing ideas on the wall and seeing what sticks. and thinking that money solves everything. its just like Real Madrid's Galacticos and PSG. while clubs like Ajax and Dortmund crush the champions league with their academy graduates.
The thing about clubs like Ajax and Dortmund is that they're not very consistent. Ajax is practically playing UCL every year since the 2000s and last year was the only time they got that far. They get eliminated from the group stage most of the time in the last 20 years. They have a very "romantic and idealistic" footballing system where if everything goes right it's the most beautiful form of football. However, that does not happen too often in modern football. It's been proven time and time again that you have to spend a lot to build a consistent and competitive squad.
@@gaoru Guardiola's Barca is probably the most consistent team in football history and its not just about what they won its that they won using the system that they developed for years and revolutionized tactics in a way that made them basically unplayable. the important thing that they proved it can be done. I agree that their golden generation is very hard to replicate consistently but what is happening now is the complete opposite of what made the club great. Im barca fan and I would'nt mind a transition period every a couple of seasons to refresh the squad and not be as dominant as long as they stay true to their philosophy (promote from within, possession based tactics etc.) but my problem is that they have made an 180 turn and still are under achieving. I loved the MSN era aswell tbh but it was the start of this downfall.
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0:31 I must have missed the seasons when Donald Trump managed Barcelona
That would be epic though 😂😂😂 "I'm going to make Barcelona... Great Again!!! 👐"
This comment deserved more love.
Is there documentation of Cruyff asking coaches how a team played, rather than the score? Is this evidence available anywhere?
Guardiola left the club. That’s what happened.
Yup. What most people claim to be talking about "Barca style" they really mean Pep style. Because they won so much with him they got spoiled for trophies and bitch and moan when it doesn't happen every season.
Jakub Wrona Because of that rat Rosell obviously...
It's more complicated that just 1 person.
It wasn't just Guardiola leaving; losing him along with the two top executives,Txiki and Ferran, along side Pep precipitated this decline. Now, the three of them are building their own La Masia equivalent in Manchester.
@@cityslacker6221 tbh tiki taka was dead but in my opinion barca should have kept triangles throught out the pitch
Who’s here after Barca just lost 8-2? I would 8-2 be Barca fans rn...
Please do "Nothing is right with man utd since Sir Ferguson left"
The video should have ended when he said that Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Puyol, Valdez etc got a lot of playing time. La Masia hasn't stopped producing talented players, they have stopped giving them chances because of the pressure. Players like Delofeu, Bojan etc who didn't reach their full potential it's because they didn't get enough chances to develop and had a lot of pressure. At least now Setien gives opportunities to young players like Fati and the rest of the promising group they have now
Just like you did with Zidane you should do a video of the struggles of Unai Emery's Arsenal
Anyone else keep having Breaking Bad flashbacks whilst watching this?
It's so sad and disheartening. I have an unpopular opinion - "Let my club play the most beautiful football ever seen and I don't care about the results". But ofcourse the board does care about the money above anything else and so results are more important. The board has been buying players who don't even fit into the squad. Idiots taking charge of our club and ruining it
That 60 minutes under Villanova was a bit of a misnomer though, because there were several players they had had to buy back. So it wasnt all perfect Pique. Alba. Fabregas. All left before returning.
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Video on La fabrica please.
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Could you do a Tite/Brazil national team tactics explained think it would be interesting
Ansu Fati is here. What a PLAYER!
Sandro Rosell’s illustration looks like he’s doing Blue Steel.
I used to think there was a time where there literally was a conveyor belt of barca players to fill weaknesses in their first XI. Shame Busquets marked probably the best and last example in the end
Barcelonia signed Louie Barry from us West Bromwich Albion, we coached him for 9 years. Still waiting for the poultry fee off £235k.
Pay up or we will send in the Baliffs.
Players from La Masia have gone from dreaming of the 1st team to having to move somewhere else, but they still shine wherever they end up. Adam Traore is a perfect example, he's been a highly impressive at Wolves. Aleña was shining at Barcelona when he played but he had a rift with the team after they took his number 21 and gave it to De Jong without any sort of communication. Ever since they won their 2nd treble they stopped focusing on young players and decided to spend on players that clearly weren't ready to play at the level Barcelona play in. Dembele barely proved himself at Dortmund. Coutinho had good performances but no titles to follow it up with, and that is what he is lacking. A winning mentality is necessary to play at the level of Barcelona and Real Madrid.
Focusing on short terms results always fucks everything over.
Be it football, production, or services. I wish more people high-up would get that...
Great video and well covered but lately it seems like a bunch of players are breaking through. There are real issues that you point out but the system is not totally broken.
Jesus how scary can these pictures be!?
Do a serie about the Ajax academy. What went right and what are the challenges in the future?
Fartomeu is either deeply incompetent or corrupt to the core. Either way he should be held to account.
you know what? that Old SPice made me have a new experience with the raising hands secert.
Who's here after that 8-2 Fracasso?
Unfortunately Barcelona are not the club they were. I hope they get a leader that will help Barcelona go back to theatre glory days
Don't hang on to a system, play to the strengths of the available players.
Mate, Chelsea were the prime suspect of this and didn't peer into their gold-studded academy until the bloody transfer ban.
Kind of a symptom how football has gone overall. I used to watch so much football, playing football manager and as a kid, playing football every day.. last 5 years, I’ve barely watched anything.
Kubo has the potential to make Barca cry for losing him. That kid is extremely talented, and if it was 10 years ago, he would have been on his sure way to be one of the best players on the planet.
First song?
Remember Xavi Simons and Kubo left Barca because of money. Money is just one of the main problem for la masia problems
Whos also here after they got raped by bayern😞 2-8 ?
Part of the problem is you don’t come out of the academy as a world class player. If a young inestia comes up through the academy with this Barca side he likely does not make it. The team right now seem to want instant success and results and are less likely to give out opportunities to develop.
Simon, can you double check those figures? Joe has been asked you to check it in the CC
La Masia ia still producing incredible talents, its just that theyve become a selling academy, they produce and sell instead of producing and keeping.
But, what is Man U going to do... we need these answers 😥
We feel your pain
The problem is the board
The only way to describe being a Man U fan, would be like being a LA Lakers fan
Tbh the only real losses that Barca suffered from La Masia were Thiago Alcantara and Grimaldo. All the others weren't up to scratch, Bartra would of made a decent bench warmer but obviously it's his choice to seek glory elsewhere.
But it still doesn't make sense when they spend ridiculous sums of cash for marquee players with no backup plans. Barcelona 8 years ago was winning the Champion's League with the majority of the squad being academy products. Now we see the results against Liverpool and Roma, whose squads cost half as much as Barcelona's current frontline...
Forgot to mention Joel Lopez who also left to join Arsenal
If we're expecting La Masia to cough up multiple Ballon D'or talents every decade, then we're just delusional.
Remember watching the old BBC Barcelona documentary, with Rosell and Laporta saying they needed to 'remove the old regime'... little did Laporta know the calamities that would follow Rosell's presidency
Wait so you're saying that VARcelona is corrupt AF??
both are corrupt as fuck
@@Sony4330 rrrrrrrrrrríiiiiiiiiiight
Who remembers Tello and Cuenca - two wingers who were brilliant during guardiola's last year as Barca coach?
Where are they now btw?? As long as I remember Tello went to Fiorentina (or betis). What about cueca tho?
Barcelona's board and fan's ego is what happened. Yes true they always had players from the academy on the first team but they weren't particularly relying on them as much as they like to boast about.
Peaks and Valleys. That's all it is. But the greatest Academy still has to be Ajax. LaMasia training Messi Xavi Iniesta Pique in 20 years is not a lot
Messi Xavi Iniesta Busquets Piqué Puyol Fabregas Pedro Sergi Roberto Valdes Jordi Alba De la Peña, Bartra Pepe Reina
Is not just that the main team was so good, if you are gonna give new talent an opportunity then you must accept that there is a risk of losing some games, Barca hold on too much to the golden generation for fear of losing thus they didn't gave opportunities out of fear
La Massia was No. 1 but now that honour goes to Manchester United's Academy... there's a clear effort to keep bringing youth players through and when they don't make it to the first team, they tend to go on to great careers elsewhere... Barça has lost its way.
I believe the short answer here is Pep Guardiola. It's not like La Masia was doing that much better before Pep came compared to how than they are now. He was the one who let lots of first-team players move on and decided to promote youth players instead of buying from elsewhere and it worked. The managers who came after him obviously didn't even feel the need to make changes as drastic as he did since he left them with an amazing squad. And to be fair, even the likes of Iniesta and Xavi weren't in the conversation of being the best midfielders in the world before Pep and his tiki-taka style came around. Who knows, perhaps even Messi wouldn't have turned out the way he is now if not for Pep's influence. The successes Barca reaped with that golden generation also made it harder to promote youngsters, much like Rakitič said. Even if Pep was still there, he wouldn't have promoted as many players as he did before because there would be no need for it, but also probably because Barca have been so successful that it made sense for them to bring in proven quality instead of youngsters to keep the ball rolling in terms of success on the pitch. And it's a shame the board wasn't as convinced in their own youth as Pep was back in the days because I agree with the statement that they went out of their way to buy players like Gomes and Digne when they probably had decent enough replacements in the academy. The thing is they'd have to wait for the youngsters to grow for a season or two and they simply didn't want to take that gamble which is quite ironic in my opinion because it was the same gamble when Pep did his squad reconstruction and it rewarded them greatly.
But let's be honest here too, some B players are just not good enough. Sergi Roberto for example, I cannot fathom as to how he is still there.
I come from the future and you know what happend today
Messi left Barcelona...
@@cheluclaudiu8619 not yet
This paradigm is why I am excited about Man United today. To be honest I don't really care about the short term results right now, although the way Ole overturned the season recently before COVID was also exciting.
After 7 years of decline and heartbreak, we now have a youth that is bubbling with talents waiting to break into the first team, and a manager that is finally place his faith in the youth, having actually overseen the youth system a decade ago. I can't wait to see how this youth starting from Rashford, Greenwood, Williams (, hopefully Pogba too, if he stays committed) and down the ranks, will emerge to be the next spine of the club.
I disagree...the best academy is the ajax academy even now producing players like de ligt and de jong among others
Interesting... Do you think it will change ??? What is best youth academy in Europe for player Development ?
Essentially this is the same problem that capitalism faces. The idea of perpetual growth is inherently contradictory.
while on the other hand due to bad results start like rodrygo and vinicius are flourishing in Madrid
I think one of the reason why they couldn't achieve their aims is to raise insufficent players out of their academy like Isaac Cuenca, Bartra so on an so forth. By the way put Messi, Xavi, Iniesta crew aside, the most talented players was Thiago but he also can not be top player and they sent to him other big European club.
Messi was developed in Argentina,rosario till 13 does are the most Important part of a footballer
I see what you did there youtube
Specifically, when the huge and crazy money game started? probably when PSG contracted with Neymar J.R ?
Imagine if tito was still alive😭 Rip
Barca hit the lotto and they figured Christmas comes once a year and they didn't bother to develop the next generation. Buying Countihno was the writing on the wall that they had given up on their philosophy to develop their own world class talent.
Well... Ansu Fati. That is all. Now, the inability to grow or bring in a quality fullback -- one that can outrun an elderly with a hip problem, unlike Pique, is indeed an issue.
Can you do a video on Raul Sanhelli
This music.... 💘
We got the talents. We just lack the manager to trust them on the first team. :(
short term success = winning the league, of course the focus should be on short term success
Immense expectation and short term board vision have lead to this shambles .bring back Juan Laporta and sack valvarde.
make a video about the CHELSEA ACADEMY and its new young bucks
Barca will be so fucked when Messi retires or leaves. Maybe not crashing as hard as man united (Messi's influence on Barca does not even come close to sir Alex), but it will still be hard fall, worse than what Madrid is experiencing right now.
New youngster is coming Pjanic is his name hope he is good
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He's not a youngster
MDR Dipro no shit idiot
@@snowitz r/woooosh
Really u think him as younster
The board is beyond incompetent in every aspect. They hire bad managers/decision makers with no long term visions and are consistently saved by Messi. The day Messi retires/leaves this club will be in shambles.
626 the Dream as a barca fan i agree when messi is hurt they dont win anything
yes you can clearly see, how Barca struggles recently without Messi or with him in a bad form.
The moment Suarez is done (which I hate to say is coming in the next couple year or so), they will start to apply Band-Aid solution by spending big money on the transfer market. This is the consequence of result based football, the board doesn’t want to go through the phase “rebuilding” when players are getting old, now they have to eat their own shit by keep spending money instead of bringing talents through la masia.
626 the Dream yes but with la masia good you would never have to fully rebuild but rebuild slow and steady
Agree 100%
I find it hard to believe that so many people think that La Masia is the best youth academy in the world, they hit the jackpot with there golden generation, just like many great teams have done through the history of football.
La Masia and Johan Cruyff developed their identity by copying Ajax and Rinus Michels tactics and training methods.(That is not a criticism)
The greatest youth setup belongs to Ajax, they have produced more elite footballers than any other club in the world and have done so for nearly 50 years.
Great post. I agree, except for one thing. Cruyff is the one who invented total football. Many players who were present at the time all stated Michels was always listening to Cruyff. Michels may have given his own spin, but Cruyff was miles ahead of anyone when it came to football philosophy and tactics.
True Ajaz is the greatest of them all... followed by Barca and Cruyf deserves every honor he change the game...
@@Snacks079 and the definition of his Total football is "a tactical theory in football in which any outfield player can take over the role of any other player in a team." Yet so many fake ass Barca fans memeing and moaning that the coach is always "playing people out of position", not even realizing that when he was a player he played under Johan.
Valid point. We should also notice one of the best youth academy at Atalanta in italy. They've consistently producing remarkable young talents for years, seamlessly integrating them into first team, while achieving excellent results in the end
@@Snacks079 David Winners book Beautiful Orange has numerous interviews with players from the 70s Ajax side that counter your claim. The best football that Ajax side played wasn't under Michels and absolutely no one claims that Cruyff dictated how that side played.
The football Barcelona played under Cruyff didn't resemble the Total Football in anything but the general formation 433/343 and didn't have an emphasis on la masia graduates. That's something Cruyff only spoke of and tried putting into practice after seeing the success that Van Gaal had with it.
The legacy of Cruyff shouldn't need to peddle such falsehoods as are commonly stated to proclaim his greatness.
Simple explanation, when a club or any company is at a peak for so long. They are more than likely to use all measures to maintain their peak even to the point of undermining what took them here in the first place. From a bigger picture, what we see Barcelona has been doing is no different from what big companies like Microsoft and Apple did to stay on top.
Edit: You can also see the United States doing similar things at a different level just to stay as the top superpower. they acquire so much debt, fight pointless wars, military spendings etc. It has already undermined the economic prosperity of many Americans.
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Don't forget Sony.
Timothy Soo does it applies to current man utd too?
Timothy soo. Tell that to Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo.
@@net_lag but the comment is about company or enterprises not individual
Barca have no idea what to do because they are so focused on Messi and his final years so they try to build around him
Don't think so. They have realized what players are aging and slowly phase them out. They are actually quite good at such transitions. They let the aging legends stay to play 60 minutes or as subs until they finally go out with a nice ceremony, and they are always welcome back as staff or management. They have brought in so many players in the past few seasons, all have done quite well, except for one flop and a few really good ones plagued by injuries (Vermaelen, Rahfina, Dembele, Umtiti and Neymar to some extent). Their only difficulty has been their reaction to losing Neymar so suddenly. They haven't really gotten that 3rd striker which makes a powerful trio, because when you have that you win a lot of stuff (look at City and Liverpool now). Hell they even finally got a backup for Jordi Alba and he's not that old.
@@jjryan1352 You are so lost it's not funny. The players that are bought has not done well and have not fit into the team much of them not even playing consistently. Politics destroy great clubs and Messi certainly is on his way down.
Youneke Browne That’s why I always liked Real Madrid more. They simply are a football club. While Barca I feel have an identity issue on the politics aspect “more than a club” (Catalonia) vs focusing on football traditions.
@@juniorgonzalez3900 That's because Madrid don't want independence
@@juniorgonzalez3900 While Barcelona is located in a place with a unique language and culture wanting to separate from Spain
I remember when Barcelona beat Real Madrid 5-0 in 2010, I don't know if there was a player that wasn't from La Masia that played (other than David Villa) and it was magical. Players like Issac Cuenca, Jeffren, Bojan and even Pedro at the time where all young players who were given game time in one of the most important games of the season. I don't know if they will ever go back to having as much faith in their youngsters as they used to. A real shame, I fear Barcelona will fade into mediocrity once Messi retires.
They likely will.
When Messi retires most of their big names will leave Barcelona or be too old to do preform at the same level as they do now.
The scarier thing is, Messi could leave at the end of THIS season, and I think he should.
@@madsin6516 He should join Manchester United so we have an attacker. :/
@@h3nder lol no
Once Messi retires I think Barcelona will either realize the importance of youth players after 2-3 mid-table seasons, or become Manchester United basically
RiP... Yesterday barca lost again in an away game... Their worst start in 25 years
If they are able to find some new talent to grow in the progress I'm totally fine if they lose a game or 2. It's a growing pain. The thing is that is never the case. It's more problematic if you win the game in a wrong way, or in our case, not the barca way.
Real Madrid are not so stable neither. This just means that La Liga would be exciting to watch again after so many years. I remember when teams like Deportivo, Atletico, Villareal, Valencia, Betis, Sevilla and even Real Sociedad (Nihat. Alonso, Kovacevic era) were serious title contenders
Lost to a team that wasn't even in la liga last season lmao
@@SurferWilly right.... Even the epl has become a 2 horse race now....la liga will be exciting this season... Especially if barca keeps Valverde for another season and don't sack him like rn
@@GGININDER591 yea man since last 2 years every time we won.. It wasn't due to our amazing football but just individual quality.. Sometimes Leo or ter stegen... We should focus on the brand of football and after that try to get results...
Barcelona fans blaming Valverde, no, it’s your board who wants to sign attackers when it’s clear to the entire world that the midfield and defence needs a complete revamp. But you keep focusing on Neymar 👍
@shane we have pretty good midfield imo with Arthur de jong vidal busquets and vidal also we could play rakitic for league games. we need experienced defender who can play with pique
@shane he's just 20 bruh just give him time even now he's giving best performance in that position
@shane my bad he's 22
@@rounak471 Lol, Barcelona are trading Arthur for 30 Year old Pjanic. Have fun with someone you can only use for 3 more years!
@@Attalic yaa mate that didn't aged well🤦♂️
All credits to out stupid miserable board
This is why I don't mind the Chelsea transfer ban too much. We've had one of the regularly strongest youth teams in the world, with all this youth talent stored away and never used until eventually they left. That's why we don't have De Bruyne and Salah at the club. The transfer ban forces us to give them a go
Oh my god get back to ISorrowProduction
@Sam of course youngsters are made for long term plans. So I guess it will pay off one day. I mean chelsea have state of the art and top class academies which Chelsea can use it.
Sam Reece James, CHO, Tammy, Mount, Tomori, all really good players
You dont have KDB and MS because yous deemed them not good enough and they have went on to better things while yous havent but whatever helps you sleep at night.
@@Jie67 We won the league twice since they left. Also it was Mourinho's short term ideas that deemed them not good enough no one else wanted them to go.
What’s wrong with La Masia?
Next video should be: What’s wrong with Valverde?
clueless
You’re clueless. It’s the roots that is wrong with la Masia, the president, the board and the system has been undermined
@@sebastianpatriksson7814 im saying that valverde is clueless
Riku T I just happened to say the same word but I meant TS, valverde isn’t the main problem, he is part of the problem and the core of the problem is the board and the president. People just use valverde as a scapegoat and the board is fine with it as long as the fingers don’t point at themselves
@@sebastianpatriksson7814 i dont think anybody thinks that bartomeu and the board arent retarded, but valverde is a problem to
I saw an interview of Edwin van der Sar. He told that the game has changed and that they had to adapt to that in Ajax youth academy by teaching the players to play faster than previously.