Greg you should also be saying EMINEM doesn't sell Pitbull doesn't sell Rayo doesn't sell Jared Anderson doesn't sell Andy Ruiz doesn't sell David Morrell doesn't sell Riyad Season doesn't sell Because if this was mega event You would be giving credit to everyone else
Who’s was headlining the event? When you’re the main event people come to see u. U didn’t see how empty it was when big baby Anderson was fighting? If ever been to a fight u know the fight doesn’t even get crowded until the main event. Now u tryna blame the other fighters on the card for why he can’t sell smh
@@louddd414 I don't invest or obsess over the business side of boxing like y'all new fan-agers do. I was pointing out that it was an event with many other fighters and had it done well he would've given everyone else the credit because he is pushing a narrative 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@jaysonwilliam850 this is a boxing channel that covers all aspects of boxing & unfortunately the sells & investors is what’s apart of it. U say u don’t care but write long paragraphs on who should be the blame. Another bud fan who gets in they feelings typical lol
They still mad that Bud tapped on Errol’s beak. He still isn’t healthy enough to fight 😂😂😂. Bud f’d him up. He may have killed him had he not clearly let up on him. Never went beyond second gear and that was far too much for Spence.
@@Aug.7 I’m not a Canelo fan but it’s Mexican vs Puerto Rican on Mexican Independence Day wknd yes it will sale because of the fanbases… thats a fact.. im not a big fan of the fight but i know how it goes… it’ll definitely do way better numbers then the Bud fight
These two 🥷’s want Bud to fail at anything and every possible way… this podcast is really a joke and has really turned into a complete 💩 show ever since Bud put hands on their favorite fighter Spence…. You’ll two 🤡’s are spreading so much hate like some bitter ex thots or baby mothers who have been wronged and this shit can’t be justified… just because your boy lost get over it bruh, you’ll ❤❤❤ PBC only fighters, and specifically Greg wakes up every morning with a overwhelming desire to taste Terrance Crawford’s 🥜s and just to mention Bud’s name in these pathetic takes as of lately clearly gives Greg some type of satisfaction….. 🌈 Greg please cut this shit out and stick to your finance career of pocket watching Bud you lame ass dude 🤦🏽♂️
@@alonzosmith1544 as they should. But the fights don't sell because they don't take risks and fight lesser opposition and the paying customer already caught on to that game. I'm not saying that was the case with this card, but if the top fighters fought each other more often the whole sport benefits
Do yall cover the sales of anyone else? Or is that just reserved in an effort to make Terence look bad? He is the best fighter you’ve seen since Floyd but all you seem to be focused on is his sales and not his actual skills. But going forward, you gotta keep the same energy for everyone 🤷🏽♂️
Where are the Virgil Ortiz numbers for the fight he had recently since he is Greg’s guy??? Better yet what about Tank Frank Martin ticket sales??? Like seriously. Or what about the fact that bootz sold out his last fight but (according to reports) he only filled 18k seats out of 22k. Y’all pick and choose when to focus on sales. It’s also clear this is a PBC fan channel so it’s bias against Bud for resigning with top rank when he was a free agent a few years ago. Cause if y’all were serious about the business of boxing you would discuss how the sport is dying (in America especially) and how the prize fighting (ppv model) isn’t working and hasn’t worked in a long time.
I agree. It's unfortunate that when men analyze boxing with logic, others jump into the comments accusing them of bashing. It’s a shame that some men today are more in their feelings than women when confronted with straightforward, logical statements.
Fury don't sell and is paid 10 times more than Bud, how much is always lost on him. Canelo don't sell and is paid 20 times more than Bud, how much is lost on him. They would'nt call Greg all these haters if he cover non-BKs just as hard because he def. sound bias.
Funny he said that the spence fight was only for the urban community & the madrimov fight was bigger & it ain’t even do know where near the numbers the Spence fight did smh
@@louddd414 which speaks louder regarding Crawford’s lack of drawing power. Spence is low-key and easy spoken which leads to ticket buyers seeing themselves having a beer with him at some point. Not with CRAWFORD? 😂😂😂
So are we doing video on Mayweather vs McGregor which said to be sold out but had 5000 unsold tickets? Is Mayweather not a Draw? It was Mayweather 50th fight! #pbcpropaganda #turkigang
Mayweather was fabricated hype. He was a draw because of his “0” and the opponents he picked had hardcore solid fan bases. I was aware Floyd said him and McGregor did better than MayPac but that was clearly bullshit. Manny had damn the whole arena cheering for him in Floyd’s own backyard. But Floyd gets all the credit because he signed a deal with Showtime PPV and it was a Showtime PPV event. Not really hard to understand but some people think when Floyd makes money they somehow get a piece too 😂
@@d0ug121 no you can't, because usually they will have a list of comped tickets.. this even sais 0. Yet Eminem was giving out free tickets as part of the promotion.. but regardless, it didn't sell out like they said and yes with the money spent they tool a major loss.
@@tunnelvision2218 1. Comp'd tickets section in these statements usually refers to media. 2. Taking a major loss is dependent on expenses and they took an L because they paid for a card with multiple headliners along with a live musical performance.
If the Bud Buddies would “Buy” his fights and go to his events then he would be a bigger star. But these clowns 🤡 don’t even really support him lol.. smdh
17,000 people were there 17,000 these guys are nuts lol 8 million plus at the gate is a success wth!!!you guys or anybody hateful towards this event probably can’t get a 1000 people to attend any thing for free. 17,000 haven’t shown up for a lot recent boxing matches. Take into consideration they lost a big co main and still had 17,000 nobody knew israil you guys are so Hateful. The Anger Hateful Grumpy Old Men podcast great content 🤝😂💰
At the end of the day, don't color me shocked that hard-core belligerent Bud fans can't come to the realization that 1) Bud is P4P top 3, and 2) he simply doesn't sell, never has. Two things that are true at once, imagine that... 😮🙄
That’s an indictment on boxing fans, not Terence. His job is to box and put on a show and before Madrimov he knocked out 11 straight. The problem is casual boxing fans 🤷🏽♂️ Bud does what he’s supposed to.
@here4boxing So you're not one of the belligerent fans, you're down to earth and live within the realm of reality... that's great. Bud is an all-time great that casuals couldn't care less about, which is a shame but it's reality. Agree with you.
@@mikemattingly9181 then that’s an indictment on them. Bud isn’t gonna be phony and stage beefs with people, if he doesn’t like you, it’s legit. He stays to himself and his team, he’s a family man who keeps his head down and works. You’d think most blue collar Americans would be on board with that but unfortunately people are fans of a promotion and not a fighter. They say they want the best for boxing but make it a point to tear down the best fighter in the world at every turn. They don’t want the best for boxing, they want the best for the PBC & Errol.
I was at the event it was not full majority of the people were not even sitting in their seats because they had enough space to move in closer and a lot of people left around the middle of the bud fight.
It wasn’t a failure. $8.5million gate in LA is higher than 99% active boxers have sold in LA.. funny enough. Bud vs Madrimov had a higher gate than Tank vs Cruz + pitbull vs rolly put together
But not higher than tank vs frank. Also if you pay the main guy 10 million, and you only make 16million. Example..🤦🏾♂️did you make any money? Oh, and the 6 went to the other fighters…
@@Slibby1981 that was the the guarantee, however Bud was supposed to get ppv % and gate %… the event lost money, how do you think that happened? Also. I was given an example. Lastly, you really think Bud is gonna just fight for 2.5 and that’s it??🤦🏾♂️🤔
@@corneliusburnett6830 bro u don't know what those people numbers was u just going off what these channels say and they going off what people putting on Twitter none of the numbers official and yes I can see Bud fighting for 2.5 million if that what the purse bid allowed his goal was to get the scrap and make hisself a interim champ
Bud claimed this was bigger than spence because the spence fight only brought on “urban” fans according to bud and this israel fight is bigger because it brings “more fans”.. that tells you alot about why he remained at top rank
I don’t understand why promoters feel like people will pay to see fighters fight people they don’t know especially US fans you can’t just bring somebody across the water no matter how good they are if they don’t have a name this keeps being proven time n time again
Y’all super lame because I rarely hear you guys talk about the PPV buys and tickets sales for other fighters. It’s always Terence Crawford and Devin Haney.
@@amsportsmedia this comment was spot on. I’ve been watching this channel off & on for a year now. Y’all working OT to prove that Bud doesn’t sell. Why do y’all care that much? Did you enjoy the fights? Boxing fans are weird.
The fight was decent. Like any business, boxing can only sustain losses for so long before it collapses. If you're concerned about the overall health of the sport, it's important that these events succeed so that investors don't lose millions, which could ultimately jeopardize the future of boxing.
They do all this D-riding on social media for bud, but when it comes to his fights, they dont back it up. That's how you know most of Bud's fans are bandwagons. Go support your #1 P4P KING! that card was one of the best cards in years, and they even threw in a halftime eminem concert 😂.
Why are you still commenting, didn't you unsubcribe fam. And the point of this video was not what he made. He made $20M and the event loss $10M. But facts don't matter. Anyways, I have a good one fam
Make sure yall give a report on Canelo-Berlanga that shit ain't gon' sell. Another PBC commercial the shit is hilarious! As a matter of fact more people will be there to see Lara-Garcia.
You’re speaking out your ass lol. Canelo has all of Mexico behind him. They come together and support his events religiously. Berlanga is not the caliber of fighter Crawfish is but he’s definitely more of a draw. You have no idea what you’re talking about even if the facts came flying and smacked you in the face
Numbers do NOT lie. If you dumb Bud STANS actually cared for Bud yall would expect/demand more from him as far as QUALITY……Bud is truly Quantity over Quality. Numbers do NOT lie and yall “fans” aint supportin em….
Turki lost money on the Usyk vs Fury fight and I don't remember hearing y'all saying anything about that. It's obvious that Riyadh Season isn't concerned with turning huge profits. They're interested in becoming major players on the combat sports scene. I was at the fight and yes there were available seats mainly at the top but nobody who went to the fight would say it wasn't packed. People are calling y'all haters because you are hating lol. It's as simple as that.
Also forgot to mention that Tim Tsyvu and Vergil Ortiz were originally supposed to be on the card. Thats also a major reason why it was billed as the best American card ever.
@@TheMajormarcj i was there and it was packed. There were a few empty seats in the upper level just like you said, but nothing of note. The place was packed.
@@TheMajormarcj i was on the field so i had access to the club/bar adjacent to the field. Bud brought the stars out, in abundance. As someone who was there, no one who wasn’t there can argue with me about what they heard, when I’m telling them WHAT I SAW 😂😂😂😂 i was at the bar getting a drink and Miguel was standing right next to me. Cool ass dude, we spoke for 30 seconds and we went out separate ways. But he brought everyone in LA put that night.
SMH, two grown men hating like this is crazy. When you can't hate anymore on a fighters actual boxing skills and talent, you go to things that don't matter to actual boxing fans. I have NEVER watched a boxing match and cared about contracts and attendance at a fight. Y'all sound like complete corn balls. Crawford beating the brakes off of Spence still hurts y'all soul.
It's the opponent selection for the main event that made this thing flop bc bud doesn't wanna fight the names unless they're already past it and that's always been his problem along with having a dark heart for everyone who didnt kiss his ass or promote him like others were promoted bc of his unwillingness to do pr leg work and sell himself. If he had fought the actual names in each division when they were at the peak of their powers he would've never had a selling problem imo but no they'd rather try to sell us on Ricky Burns being a killer along with all the other no names with belts that he beat and he waits too long to fight bc outside of the spence fight he really never had a fight everyone was looking forward to in 40 fights so why should anyone expect big sales messing with him 🤷🏿♂️ he literally let that momentum from the spence win die and came back against madrimov like that was gonna move the needle 😂 but respect to bud for fleecing them all these years getting guarantees for low selling fights sadly he couldve been getting canelo type money of he had played the game right.
I don't bud supporters care if he's a superstar/draw or not 😂. I never seen ticket sells or ppv buys throw a punch. A 8mil gate outside of Vegas fighting an unknown is pretty decent 🤷🏾♂️
If Crawford doesn’t sell. If he a permanent B side and everyone careless about his fight why report on him daily? Or the Riyadh event… I guess they applying pressure. Bud hurt Spence so bad after 15 months he still healing.
Because u fans & him keep talking like he does sell when the numbers don’t lie. Why don’t u bud fans that fight & argue with everybody online support him & buy his fights? Or buy tickets & go to his fight. Ya on UA-cam more showing support. The way he get support on UA-cam u would think he would sell
@@EmpressSports94 are Vergil fans all in the comments talking about how much he sell & how big of star he is? Or how somebody hating on him or blackballing him. U bud fans the most sensitive fans in boxing
@@amsportsmedia stick to your day job/ your finance career of pocket watching or maybe you’re a bank teller or some lame ass position. I really hope someone from buds camp presses you if they ever see you, but then again you probably don’t get out much 🤡
See this the problem Bud haters have Bud can't sell or do this who cares guess what ppl will remember in boxing are their wins and losses not he sold 550ppv but won no belts the ppl who actually cover boxing and the Hall of Fame not mentioning ppv sales but either way Bud winnng MVP at celebrity basketball game he's in a video game he's named dropped by some of the top Rappers the Hollywood Stars came out too support him y'all mad because the guys who selling not being mentioned or around theses celebrities
@amsportsmedia ok ok fellas we get it. Bud doesn’t sell & Turki loses his money. Understood. Point made.What is ur ultimate end goal (honest question)?
Unless you can verify the number of comps, 17K+ ticket sales and $8M+ gate is great. You're coming off as a hater unless you can prove the number of comps otherwise
Him, Fannon, n Ego are using people's ignorance to push their false narrative! Comps aren't included in revenue. The $8.5 mill is from the 17.5k tickets sold
Why the hate? Bud is an excellent boxer. Crossover is hard when you're Black. Mayweather didn't become a box office draw until he beat DLH. Bud hurt himself, by not being active enough. He should have used the momentum from his victory off of Spence for an immediate rematch or bout against Thurman or Boots or someone else right away. If he faces Canelo and beats him, there will be no looking back. He will become box office. And Turki doesn't care to lose money. I think he takes pride in throwing his money away....while still remaining abundantly wealthy. He just wants to be known for giving fans the matchups that they want...or he wants. He's a wealthy boxing casual.
Bro if u was following Bud after that Spence win they had a rematch in Dec setup but the majority of the fans including these 2 dudes didn't want to see it Boots had issues aswell wit his team and Showtime and I don't know why u brought Thurman name up u see he couldn't even make it thru training camp from being out the ring so long to fight TimZu then Spence again had eye issues and these guys know all that but choose to push negative content on Bud because it brings views to there channel
@@Slibby1981 My point was he should have forced the issue and faced someone. He was hotter than he'd ever been after beating Spence. He was invited onto mainstream media TV shows. Out of sight, out of mind. He stayed away from the ring too long. I have friends who are casual fans, who can vaguely remember him now. When you're hot you have to know how to capitalize and ride momentum. Bud basically started over again, and then he faced an unknown in Madrimov. But I still take nothing from Bud. He's still box office for pure boxing fans. He just has to be smart if he wants to crossover. He'll get it, if he can get Canelo in the ring...and win.
@@ronniebobbyedition993 cool but these dudes move different when they get older and getting these big bags those lil bag fighters be the ones fighting 2 -3 times a year then he don't even got a promotion he signed to he can retire now and b good
@@Slibby1981 I get it. But Crawford, as talented as he is, dropped the ball by not riding his momentum. And while I don't think an almost 18K crowd is bad, he probably would have sold out the arena had he stayed hot. And I hear folks saying this was a flop because it didn't profit....but this was a smart card/event. It can be viewed as an investment for something down the line. This was a statement event, in which folks are watching. Turki has shown that he'll pay to deliver. If he is able to put together Stevenson VS Davis or Canelo VS Bud or something big within the next 6-7 months, he'll profit huge/ change the game. And TBH, I'm not a fan of this Middle Eastern $$$ invasion, but it might end up winning and monopolizing the industry.
@@ronniebobbyedition993 bro the only people who sayin it flopped is the channels that don't support Bud they can t speak negative his boxing so they hate on money but they really salty about Spence being on the shelf
I’m pretty sure if we pull up every fight seat sells it would look similar let’s see Ortiz seat sells I bet all there seats wasn’t sold also Eddie said they sold out WellsFargo for Boots fight when it’s reported they sold 18k and it holds 22k if we go start being petty show other fighters seat sells aswell
@@EmpressSports94 that's what I'm saying what's the point of speaking on someone else ticket sales if u not go speak on other fighters as well what does that has to do wit boxing we listen sports channels to talk about fighting not the business
Bud cant sell his fans don’t buy his fights they just talk online. No crossover appeal. It was Bob, then BLK, now Turki 😂
@@chefrocko all “bootleg streamers” 😂😂😂
😄😄😄
Buds "email fans" 😂
But he can damn sure fight. Ask Errol 😂😂😂
Your absolutely correct!!😊
Greg you should also be saying
EMINEM doesn't sell
Pitbull doesn't sell
Rayo doesn't sell
Jared Anderson doesn't sell
Andy Ruiz doesn't sell
David Morrell doesn't sell
Riyad Season doesn't sell
Because if this was mega event
You would be giving credit to everyone else
Probably cause bud said the seats filled up when it was time for him to fight and the fans and celebs came to see him, just guessing
Just shows how bias he is
Who’s was headlining the event? When you’re the main event people come to see u. U didn’t see how empty it was when big baby Anderson was fighting? If ever been to a fight u know the fight doesn’t even get crowded until the main event. Now u tryna blame the other fighters on the card for why he can’t sell smh
@@louddd414 I don't invest or obsess over the business side of boxing like y'all new fan-agers do.
I was pointing out that it was an event with many other fighters and had it done well he would've given everyone else the credit because he is pushing a narrative
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@jaysonwilliam850 this is a boxing channel that covers all aspects of boxing & unfortunately the sells & investors is what’s apart of it. U say u don’t care but write long paragraphs on who should be the blame. Another bud fan who gets in they feelings typical lol
These dudes still in they feelings about Spence losing 😂😂😂
😂they lost alot of bread and they still losing it bro
It failed for sure. He whooped Spence though
That’s why they’re really mad 😂
@@oaktownfighting1513 he defeated Spence while on the SNAC program. Bud’s last no SNAC program, go figure?
@@Tarka1Spence was in snac and boots in snac now so what?
@@JMoney07-s3h Spence was not in SNAC at the time of Crawford vs Spence fight.
They still mad that Bud tapped on Errol’s beak. He still isn’t healthy enough to fight 😂😂😂. Bud f’d him up. He may have killed him had he not clearly let up on him. Never went beyond second gear and that was far too much for Spence.
Terence Crawford is just not a big sale, although he’s a great talent. He doesn’t have that magnetism…
His gloves were definitely magnetized to Spence’s grill.
@@bobbybasnight3124 again, we’re talking about sales not skills..
Bud couldn’t sell his way out of a wet paper bag and he thinks Canelo will even think about fighting him 💀💀💀💀💀
Not a good argument, does Berlanga sale?
@@Aug.7is berlanga 3 divisions below canelo?
@@Aug.7 I’m not a Canelo fan but it’s Mexican vs Puerto Rican on Mexican Independence Day wknd yes it will sale because of the fanbases… thats a fact.. im not a big fan of the fight but i know how it goes… it’ll definitely do way better numbers then the Bud fight
@alonzosmith1544 you actually think canelo v berlanga will sell more than bud v canelo?
These two 🥷’s want Bud to fail at anything and every possible way… this podcast is really a joke and has really turned into a complete 💩 show ever since Bud put hands on their favorite fighter Spence…. You’ll two 🤡’s are spreading so much hate like some bitter ex thots or baby mothers who have been wronged and this shit can’t be justified… just because your boy lost get over it bruh, you’ll ❤❤❤ PBC only fighters, and specifically Greg wakes up every morning with a overwhelming desire to taste Terrance Crawford’s 🥜s and just to mention Bud’s name in these pathetic takes as of lately clearly gives Greg some type of satisfaction….. 🌈 Greg please cut this shit out and stick to your finance career of pocket watching Bud you lame ass dude 🤦🏽♂️
It doesn't matter if the fights sell good or not as long as we get the fights. At the end of the day everyone getting paid
That’s easy for u to say as you’re not the 1 putting the work in and getting in that ring… the fighters care about if it sells or not lol
@@alonzosmith1544 as they should. But the fights don't sell because they don't take risks and fight lesser opposition and the paying customer already caught on to that game. I'm not saying that was the case with this card, but if the top fighters fought each other more often the whole sport benefits
@@alonzosmith1544facts
@alonzosmith1544 the fighters got paid. That's the point
Do yall cover the sales of anyone else? Or is that just reserved in an effort to make Terence look bad? He is the best fighter you’ve seen since Floyd but all you seem to be focused on is his sales and not his actual skills. But going forward, you gotta keep the same energy for everyone 🤷🏽♂️
Yep, we do
@@amsportsmediacut the shit 😂😂😂
Where are the Virgil Ortiz numbers for the fight he had recently since he is Greg’s guy??? Better yet what about Tank Frank Martin ticket sales??? Like seriously. Or what about the fact that bootz sold out his last fight but (according to reports) he only filled 18k seats out of 22k. Y’all pick and choose when to focus on sales. It’s also clear this is a PBC fan channel so it’s bias against Bud for resigning with top rank when he was a free agent a few years ago.
Cause if y’all were serious about the business of boxing you would discuss how the sport is dying (in America especially) and how the prize fighting (ppv model) isn’t working and hasn’t worked in a long time.
@@amsportsmediacap 🧢🧢🧢 no you don’t.
Going live today. You've pissed me off
It said the fight sold 17,799 tickets with a gate of 8.4 million according to CSAC in comparison Tank had 13,239 in attendance vs Frank Martin
Why go hard like this?? Why dont u bring states for Canelo and how he fights smaller people to remain undefeated
Because that’s not true
Basically was smaller than everybody at 168 besides Ryder and jermell
Why you bringing up Canelo 🤣😂😅
Y’all destroying the black boxers all y’all talk about is ticket sells and dehydration clauses
Sure, sure we are.
This channel only bashs Bud Shakur Keyshawn every video pretty much 😂 wild how men are today
I agree. It's unfortunate that when men analyze boxing with logic, others jump into the comments accusing them of bashing. It’s a shame that some men today are more in their feelings than women when confronted with straightforward, logical statements.
@@amsportsmediaEyy Greg, how's Errol doing?
Fury don't sell and is paid 10 times more than Bud, how much is always lost on him. Canelo don't sell and is paid 20 times more than Bud, how much is lost on him. They would'nt call Greg all these haters if he cover non-BKs just as hard because he def. sound bias.
Bud’s a big draw in the “HOOD” only.
Funny he said that the spence fight was only for the urban community & the madrimov fight was bigger & it ain’t even do know where near the numbers the Spence fight did smh
@@louddd414 which speaks louder regarding Crawford’s lack of drawing power. Spence is low-key and easy spoken which leads to ticket buyers seeing themselves having a beer with him at some point. Not with CRAWFORD? 😂😂😂
So are we doing video on Mayweather vs McGregor which said to be sold out but had 5000 unsold tickets? Is Mayweather not a Draw? It was Mayweather 50th fight! #pbcpropaganda #turkigang
Name a big fight turki has put on besides furry vs uysek?
Mayweather was fabricated hype. He was a draw because of his “0” and the opponents he picked had hardcore solid fan bases. I was aware Floyd said him and McGregor did better than MayPac but that was clearly bullshit. Manny had damn the whole arena cheering for him in Floyd’s own backyard. But Floyd gets all the credit because he signed a deal with Showtime PPV and it was a Showtime PPV event. Not really hard to understand but some people think when Floyd makes money they somehow get a piece too 😂
@@YSaechao916 Facts
They also didn't show the comped tickets... they counted them as part of the sales. That fight didn't even do the number put out.
Unless you can prove the number of comp'd tickets, you can say this about every boxing gate
@@d0ug121 no you can't, because usually they will have a list of comped tickets.. this even sais 0. Yet Eminem was giving out free tickets as part of the promotion.. but regardless, it didn't sell out like they said and yes with the money spent they tool a major loss.
@@tunnelvision2218 1. Comp'd tickets section in these statements usually refers to media. 2. Taking a major loss is dependent on expenses and they took an L because they paid for a card with multiple headliners along with a live musical performance.
If the Bud Buddies would “Buy” his fights and go to his events then he would be a bigger star. But these clowns 🤡 don’t even really support him lol.. smdh
Doesn't sell the end
17,000 people were there 17,000 these guys are nuts lol 8 million plus at the gate is a success wth!!!you guys or anybody hateful towards this event probably can’t get a 1000 people to attend any thing for free. 17,000 haven’t shown up for a lot recent boxing matches. Take into consideration they lost a big co main and still had 17,000 nobody knew israil you guys are so Hateful. The Anger Hateful Grumpy Old Men podcast great content 🤝😂💰
LA isn’t a fight town. They shoulda went to Vegas.
Yall hating on bud for what dude is a legend in the boxing game sell or dont sell
At the end of the day, don't color me shocked that hard-core belligerent Bud fans can't come to the realization that 1) Bud is P4P top 3, and 2) he simply doesn't sell, never has. Two things that are true at once, imagine that... 😮🙄
That’s an indictment on boxing fans, not Terence. His job is to box and put on a show and before Madrimov he knocked out 11 straight. The problem is casual boxing fans 🤷🏽♂️ Bud does what he’s supposed to.
@here4boxing So you're not one of the belligerent fans, you're down to earth and live within the realm of reality... that's great. Bud is an all-time great that casuals couldn't care less about, which is a shame but it's reality. Agree with you.
Who does sale in the sport of boxing this current day and age? Outside of Canelo?
@@mikemattingly9181 then that’s an indictment on them. Bud isn’t gonna be phony and stage beefs with people, if he doesn’t like you, it’s legit. He stays to himself and his team, he’s a family man who keeps his head down and works. You’d think most blue collar Americans would be on board with that but unfortunately people are fans of a promotion and not a fighter. They say they want the best for boxing but make it a point to tear down the best fighter in the world at every turn. They don’t want the best for boxing, they want the best for the PBC & Errol.
I was there it was the largest crowd and the most fun I've ever had at a fight.
I was at the event it was not full majority of the people were not even sitting in their seats because they had enough space to move in closer and a lot of people left around the middle of the bud fight.
Post all 3 ppv platform carriers of the event -dazn,pbc and Amazon prime video , and ESPN +
The beauty of dat Spence beating. lol
Bottom Line: Bud Retired Spence!
It’s called papering the house. When you comp tickets to fill up the arena.
It wasn’t a failure. $8.5million gate in LA is higher than 99% active boxers have sold in LA.. funny enough. Bud vs Madrimov had a higher gate than Tank vs Cruz + pitbull vs rolly put together
But not higher than tank vs frank. Also if you pay the main guy 10 million, and you only make 16million. Example..🤦🏾♂️did you make any money? Oh, and the 6 went to the other fighters…
@@corneliusburnett6830who got paid 10 million Bud purse was 2.5 million Pitbull purse was 1.5 million
@@Slibby1981 that was the the guarantee, however Bud was supposed to get ppv % and gate %… the event lost money, how do you think that happened? Also. I was given an example. Lastly, you really think Bud is gonna just fight for 2.5 and that’s it??🤦🏾♂️🤔
@@corneliusburnett6830 bro u don't know what those people numbers was u just going off what these channels say and they going off what people putting on Twitter none of the numbers official and yes I can see Bud fighting for 2.5 million if that what the purse bid allowed his goal was to get the scrap and make hisself a interim champ
Damn, I was rooting for Crawford this time.
Why everyone worry about sales who sales an who don't y'all worry about sales more than the fights
@@moetown909s3 Bud beat Errol so bad, he turned their fans into accountants.
Bud claimed this was bigger than spence because the spence fight only brought on “urban” fans according to bud and this israel fight is bigger because it brings “more fans”.. that tells you alot about why he remained at top rank
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It might not have done well bt hey, he sure did put a whooping on Spence though🤷♂️
I don’t understand why promoters feel like people will pay to see fighters fight people they don’t know especially US fans you can’t just bring somebody across the water no matter how good they are if they don’t have a name this keeps being proven time n time again
Love the show brothas💪🏼 no diddy
2 things can be true, however I don’t see many folks calling Jason a hater. It’s just you Greg haha
Y’all super lame because I rarely hear you guys talk about the PPV buys and tickets sales for other fighters. It’s always Terence Crawford and Devin Haney.
One of my favorite bone songs aye!!
Y’all working overtime on these Bud numbers. Shit sad at this point, they are smiling & everything. It pains them to see Bud on top 🤦🏽♀️
Only thing sad was this comment with no substance. Love the profile pic tho. You're a beautiful woman.
@@amsportsmedia this comment was spot on. I’ve been watching this channel off & on for a year now. Y’all working OT to prove that Bud doesn’t sell. Why do y’all care that much? Did you enjoy the fights? Boxing fans are weird.
The fight was decent. Like any business, boxing can only sustain losses for so long before it collapses. If you're concerned about the overall health of the sport, it's important that these events succeed so that investors don't lose millions, which could ultimately jeopardize the future of boxing.
By the way, would like for you to stick around. We welcome the ladies on this channel.
They do all this D-riding on social media for bud, but when it comes to his fights, they dont back it up. That's how you know most of Bud's fans are bandwagons. Go support your #1 P4P KING! that card was one of the best cards in years, and they even threw in a halftime eminem concert 😂.
Bud made 20 million for this fight
Why are you still commenting, didn't you unsubcribe fam. And the point of this video was not what he made. He made $20M and the event loss $10M. But facts don't matter. Anyways, I have a good one fam
That's why they lost money, kid. because they paid bud what he doesn't generate. Boots sold almost 15k off his name alone
We know Bud not a draw but rooting against boxing as a boxing podcast is insane. Lol
You guys haven't did your research
Lmao. We provided the CSAC records. HTF did we not do our research?
Make sure yall give a report on Canelo-Berlanga that shit ain't gon' sell. Another PBC commercial the shit is hilarious! As a matter of fact more people will be there to see Lara-Garcia.
You’re speaking out your ass lol. Canelo has all of Mexico behind him. They come together and support his events religiously. Berlanga is not the caliber of fighter Crawfish is but he’s definitely more of a draw. You have no idea what you’re talking about even if the facts came flying and smacked you in the face
The earth man doesn't sell the end
Numbers do NOT lie. If you dumb Bud STANS actually cared for Bud yall would expect/demand more from him as far as QUALITY……Bud is truly Quantity over Quality. Numbers do NOT lie and yall “fans” aint supportin em….
Turki lost money on the Usyk vs Fury fight and I don't remember hearing y'all saying anything about that. It's obvious that Riyadh Season isn't concerned with turning huge profits. They're interested in becoming major players on the combat sports scene. I was at the fight and yes there were available seats mainly at the top but nobody who went to the fight would say it wasn't packed. People are calling y'all haters because you are hating lol. It's as simple as that.
Also forgot to mention that Tim Tsyvu and Vergil Ortiz were originally supposed to be on the card. Thats also a major reason why it was billed as the best American card ever.
@@TheMajormarcj i was there and it was packed. There were a few empty seats in the upper level just like you said, but nothing of note. The place was packed.
@@here4boxing bro you saw them drink and food lines. It was crazy lol
@@TheMajormarcj i was on the field so i had access to the club/bar adjacent to the field. Bud brought the stars out, in abundance. As someone who was there, no one who wasn’t there can argue with me about what they heard, when I’m telling them WHAT I SAW 😂😂😂😂 i was at the bar getting a drink and Miguel was standing right next to me. Cool ass dude, we spoke for 30 seconds and we went out separate ways. But he brought everyone in LA put that night.
@@here4boxing I was there too... - insert false narrative here-
bud has never been a drawl...."I could of bought a house in Malibu with the money i lost on Terrance Crawford" ~Bob Arum
SMH, two grown men hating like this is crazy. When you can't hate anymore on a fighters actual boxing skills and talent, you go to things that don't matter to actual boxing fans. I have NEVER watched a boxing match and cared about contracts and attendance at a fight. Y'all sound like complete corn balls. Crawford beating the brakes off of Spence still hurts y'all soul.
Truth is hate to men who are emotional.
It's the opponent selection for the main event that made this thing flop bc bud doesn't wanna fight the names unless they're already past it and that's always been his problem along with having a dark heart for everyone who didnt kiss his ass or promote him like others were promoted bc of his unwillingness to do pr leg work and sell himself. If he had fought the actual names in each division when they were at the peak of their powers he would've never had a selling problem imo but no they'd rather try to sell us on Ricky Burns being a killer along with all the other no names with belts that he beat and he waits too long to fight bc outside of the spence fight he really never had a fight everyone was looking forward to in 40 fights so why should anyone expect big sales messing with him 🤷🏿♂️ he literally let that momentum from the spence win die and came back against madrimov like that was gonna move the needle 😂 but respect to bud for fleecing them all these years getting guarantees for low selling fights sadly he couldve been getting canelo type money of he had played the game right.
I don't bud supporters care if he's a superstar/draw or not 😂. I never seen ticket sells or ppv buys throw a punch. A 8mil gate outside of Vegas fighting an unknown is pretty decent 🤷🏾♂️
If Crawford doesn’t sell. If he a permanent B side and everyone careless about his fight why report on him daily?
Or the Riyadh event… I guess they applying pressure.
Bud hurt Spence so bad after 15 months he still healing.
Because u fans & him keep talking like he does sell when the numbers don’t lie. Why don’t u bud fans that fight & argue with everybody online support him & buy his fights? Or buy tickets & go to his fight. Ya on UA-cam more showing support. The way he get support on UA-cam u would think he would sell
Because this is a boxing channel for boxing news. I guess ugas beat Spence up bad too since he didn't fight for almost 2 years. Smh
@@SeanGibson-fm2okif this is a boxing channel that does this then why don’t they discuss the sales of the Virgil Ortiz fight that happened recently?
Because Bud sells. The same people who say he can’t sell, use his name for clicks.
@@EmpressSports94 are Vergil fans all in the comments talking about how much he sell & how big of star he is? Or how somebody hating on him or blackballing him. U bud fans the most sensitive fans in boxing
Greg is pathetic.
Damn you're a hater
@@amsportsmedia stick to your day job/ your finance career of pocket watching or maybe you’re a bank teller or some lame ass position. I really hope someone from buds camp presses you if they ever see you, but then again you probably don’t get out much 🤡
BOY GREG YOU TOOK ME BACK WITH BONE THUGS YOU DIG
Is there a fight card that had a higher attendance (17K+) and gate ($8M+) in 2024? Serious question.
Tank vs frank
@@corneliusburnett6830cap
@@corneliusburnett6830the same card the had Benevadis on also show the reports
@@corneliusburnett6830 they had lower attendance (13K) but higher gate ($13M)
@@d0ug121 playa they still lost money, that’s the point. Now I’m not blaming Crawford or any other fighter.
The Glee in Greg’s Face XD these Terrence Crawford videos is making Gregg age Backwards 😆😆😆
Why does it even matter? Great fight nice card.
Won't be a sport if events keep losing money fam
@@amsportsmedia the PBC loses money left and right. I don’t recall yall reporting it with such joy 😂😂😂
here come the error spence fans😂
See this the problem Bud haters have Bud can't sell or do this who cares guess what ppl will remember in boxing are their wins and losses not he sold 550ppv but won no belts the ppl who actually cover boxing and the Hall of Fame not mentioning ppv sales but either way Bud winnng MVP at celebrity basketball game he's in a video game he's named dropped by some of the top Rappers the Hollywood Stars came out too support him y'all mad because the guys who selling not being mentioned or around theses celebrities
@amsportsmedia ok ok fellas we get it. Bud doesn’t sell & Turki loses his money. Understood. Point made.What is ur ultimate end goal (honest question)?
This was simply a follow up to the comments stating we were hating. We are done now. Point proven you all finally get it
@@amsportsmedia no problem Greg. We get it. Geesh!
Look up what carl froch said about turki and covering boxing in saudi arabia!! He held nothing back 😂😂😂
He knew spence sold before bud at cowboys stadium and he will because he has crossover appeal like Tank, n nelo
He had one big fight at cowboys stadium with a Mexican star in Mikey Garcia.
If Turki out the fight game, then who go promote fights...you guys?
What did they do before Turki?
Unless you can verify the number of comps, 17K+ ticket sales and $8M+ gate is great. You're coming off as a hater unless you can prove the number of comps otherwise
They gave away about 4k discounted / free tickets😂😂
@@Leroy-bu6hg can you post the source for that number?
@@d0ug121nope he can't lol it's always they homie told them
Him, Fannon, n Ego are using people's ignorance to push their false narrative! Comps aren't included in revenue. The $8.5 mill is from the 17.5k tickets sold
Why the hate? Bud is an excellent boxer. Crossover is hard when you're Black. Mayweather didn't become a box office draw until he beat DLH. Bud hurt himself, by not being active enough. He should have used the momentum from his victory off of Spence for an immediate rematch or bout against Thurman or Boots or someone else right away. If he faces Canelo and beats him, there will be no looking back. He will become box office. And Turki doesn't care to lose money. I think he takes pride in throwing his money away....while still remaining abundantly wealthy. He just wants to be known for giving fans the matchups that they want...or he wants. He's a wealthy boxing casual.
Bro if u was following Bud after that Spence win they had a rematch in Dec setup but the majority of the fans including these 2 dudes didn't want to see it Boots had issues aswell wit his team and Showtime and I don't know why u brought Thurman name up u see he couldn't even make it thru training camp from being out the ring so long to fight TimZu then Spence again had eye issues and these guys know all that but choose to push negative content on Bud because it brings views to there channel
@@Slibby1981 My point was he should have forced the issue and faced someone. He was hotter than he'd ever been after beating Spence. He was invited onto mainstream media TV shows. Out of sight, out of mind. He stayed away from the ring too long. I have friends who are casual fans, who can vaguely remember him now. When you're hot you have to know how to capitalize and ride momentum. Bud basically started over again, and then he faced an unknown in Madrimov. But I still take nothing from Bud. He's still box office for pure boxing fans. He just has to be smart if he wants to crossover. He'll get it, if he can get Canelo in the ring...and win.
@@ronniebobbyedition993 cool but these dudes move different when they get older and getting these big bags those lil bag fighters be the ones fighting 2 -3 times a year then he don't even got a promotion he signed to he can retire now and b good
@@Slibby1981 I get it. But Crawford, as talented as he is, dropped the ball by not riding his momentum.
And while I don't think an almost 18K crowd is bad, he probably would have sold out the arena had he stayed hot.
And I hear folks saying this was a flop because it didn't profit....but this was a smart card/event. It can be viewed as an investment for something down the line.
This was a statement event, in which folks are watching. Turki has shown that he'll pay to deliver.
If he is able to put together Stevenson VS Davis or Canelo VS Bud or something big within the next 6-7 months, he'll profit huge/ change the game.
And TBH, I'm not a fan of this Middle Eastern $$$ invasion, but it might end up winning and monopolizing the industry.
@@ronniebobbyedition993 bro the only people who sayin it flopped is the channels that don't support Bud they can t speak negative his boxing so they hate on money but they really salty about Spence being on the shelf
Had to unsubscribe because the slant and slander.
That's fine. Have a great one SMG
@@amsportsmedia I'm back
Lmao
Welcome back. Going live at 6
Bad business bud strikes again 😂😂😂
I’m pretty sure if we pull up every fight seat sells it would look similar let’s see Ortiz seat sells I bet all there seats wasn’t sold also Eddie said they sold out WellsFargo for Boots fight when it’s reported they sold 18k and it holds 22k if we go start being petty show other fighters seat sells aswell
@@Slibby1981 Spence Uguas fight sold 3,000+ complimentary tickets but ppl swear out Spence sold at that time period.
@@EmpressSports94 that's what I'm saying what's the point of speaking on someone else ticket sales if u not go speak on other fighters as well what does that has to do wit boxing we listen sports channels to talk about fighting not the business
@@EmpressSports94Spence had one big fight against Mikey in the stadium and all of a sudden he sells out the stadiums like Anthony Joshua 😂😂
And it’s sad that so many fans hate on the best P4P fighter in the world for no reason…
Why do you care did you lose some money
Because if the sport's investors continue to lose money there won't be a sport left! Not sure why that escapes many of you.
@@amsportsmedia they just need to learn how to make money in different ways or stop people from streaming
Were the fighters need to accept what they actually generate
Bud still a legend hate all you want dude accomplished alot@@amsportsmedia
@amsportsmedia i can't tell someone who's getting punch in the face how much that worth in the world. Buy it if you want to. If not, who cares 😴