I'm happy you also showed the prices, I can't tell you how many people I've tried to help getting a programming job, just to quit or only do the bare minimum amount of effort because they're not making R20k+ instantly, a lot of people in SA see stats from the US and believes it directly applies to them here... In my first year and a half of full stack web dev, I made R5k a month. A co-worker of mine saw my skill and enthusiasm and got me a job at a different company, who offered me the salary I wanted to have when I decided to go into programming in the first place. After that I helped 4 people to get a job, 3 quit after they didn't get as much as they wanted (or as much as I made) from the get-go and 1 didn't feel they got paid enough and worked barely 1 hour a week and got fired, basically ruining their reputation as a programmer. Set your expectations right Also another tip as an educator (my part-time)... Don't stop learning x language because it pays less than y language, finish x language first, get a job in it, then learn y language and then get a job in it. On the end of the day, if you spend 3+ years learning different languages because one pays less than the others and you constantly switch from one language to the next, that is 3+ years you lose that you could've racked up exp and gotten a decent salary. If you then get a job in language y, then you'd already have 3+ years exp and an expected minimum pay that goes along with it, so you won't have to start from the bottom And as a final tip, don't waste your money on getting certificates if doing web development with JavaScript, from my experience freeCodeCamp + UA-cam and/or a connection in the industry is all you need these days, I see too many people spending hours and *a lot* of money on paid courses
Im at my first dev job ... i was feeling bit discouraged sometimes i tend to think myb im not good enough bcs of the figures i see other people earning ....all n all good advice sir much appreciated
Small Mistake I have picked up on the Backend, Frontend and Fullstack slide 2-4 Backend = R35 000 2-4 Fullstack = R32 000 2-4 Frontend = R27 000 I apologise for the mistake as it may be misleading, the graph is correct but the table is wrong.
im in matric and will be going to study computer science next year i have been learning python for the last few weeks this video really educated me on development in SA i wont stop learning python but i am going to consider what i actually love about development and software engineering instead of money and finding what i actually want to work with i thank you
Good morning Sir hope you doing great nice informative video by the way thank you for the effort So last time I said I was doing my final year this year and I finished my degree passes the last module, watching your videos had an impact on my life Thank you on that.
Love your videos but please try keep your "slide switch tone" the same volume as your speaking voice. It sometimes does that thing where when you are watching tv and the advert is 3x louder than the actual show. Awesome content 🎉🎉🎉🎉
This is great! thank you for the information. i know you just posted this video but could you also post one about the best places for one to go to look for these jobs? and the qualifications/resume one needs to be able to confidently enter these spaces.
Great video!! As always I always knew that backend developers on average tend to get paid more than front-end developers but when I soon discovered that a backend dev makes more than a full stack also, I was kinda surprised by watching an interview with Faang employees My first reaction was kinda a bummer because logically by default I would think that full-stack devs would get paid more. After all, they are full-stack which makes them valuable, but after learning about those 3 types of roles it made sense. Internationally worldwide Backend developers are paid more than both front-end and full-stack on average it's just 5% to 17% more, But that alone, because some are just different in a weird way that alone doesn't mean you must now break up with your wife, sell your house, quit your job to transition to the backend, quit learning FE. You now think it's a waste of time because you will make peanuts compared to the backend dev, let me clarify some misconceptions. A front end with more experience can make more than a backend with less experience working in a smaller company same story with full-stack, money should not be the reason to want to work In a certain role because you may regret that, And lastly, In my opinion there are plenty of opportunities to make more money as a front-end or full-stack outside of a job or starting your own thing I can't speak much about the backend but I would assume it's also possible can't see why not, I have seen a handful of independent full-stack devs internationally and here locally in ZA that is making tens of millions per year from their products and services, those who want money I highly Recommended upskilling themselves and chasing problems within the tech industry not money if it's a million-dollar problem you will make millions if it's a billion-dollar problem you will make billions... Or add value
salaries are still high, a friend of mine is a technician earning R15K with three years experience. but they have a software dev qualification. bad career choice.
Hi I did mathlit(70%), accounting(70%), economics(60%) and business studies(80%) in high school. Is it possible for me to do computer science or information systems with those subjects somehow 😢??
Check online for the requirements, I went to varsity around 2013 so the requirements might have changed now. Back then you needed Maths to do a Bsc degree I don’t know if its still the same now or not.
@@LehlohonoloMohale-bh2hd i'm 21 I got similar marks to you but didn;t do accounting though however, I'm redoing matric to add maths , because outside of the requirements for credible varsity placements, the skills, mental process given to you thanks to having a decent/strong background in maths is crucial, it's not only about how good you are at maths , in tech some careers, it is required that you have sharp critical analytical thinking skills which will be sharpened far more by core maths vs math lit. companies won't care obviously about if you had math lit or core math, but they may care where you got your qaulification from , i.e a UCT graduate with a decent portfolio could get a job far quicker than a VC graduate with a decent portfolio , key focus is on portfolio though. But which company you go to could be affected by where you studied, and that ofc is affected by your matric. Goodluck
@@hossnychandoh6372 South African companies are moving away from it. C++, VB .Net, C etc. are languages that no longer appealing in the South African market, reason is there's now better, efficient, easier to work with languages
![My Journey to Becoming a Software Developer/Engineer [South African]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GwkEOu6PKUY/mqdefault.jpg)
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I'm happy you also showed the prices, I can't tell you how many people I've tried to help getting a programming job, just to quit or only do the bare minimum amount of effort because they're not making R20k+ instantly, a lot of people in SA see stats from the US and believes it directly applies to them here... In my first year and a half of full stack web dev, I made R5k a month. A co-worker of mine saw my skill and enthusiasm and got me a job at a different company, who offered me the salary I wanted to have when I decided to go into programming in the first place. After that I helped 4 people to get a job, 3 quit after they didn't get as much as they wanted (or as much as I made) from the get-go and 1 didn't feel they got paid enough and worked barely 1 hour a week and got fired, basically ruining their reputation as a programmer. Set your expectations right
Also another tip as an educator (my part-time)... Don't stop learning x language because it pays less than y language, finish x language first, get a job in it, then learn y language and then get a job in it. On the end of the day, if you spend 3+ years learning different languages because one pays less than the others and you constantly switch from one language to the next, that is 3+ years you lose that you could've racked up exp and gotten a decent salary. If you then get a job in language y, then you'd already have 3+ years exp and an expected minimum pay that goes along with it, so you won't have to start from the bottom
And as a final tip, don't waste your money on getting certificates if doing web development with JavaScript, from my experience freeCodeCamp + UA-cam and/or a connection in the industry is all you need these days, I see too many people spending hours and *a lot* of money on paid courses
Great Advice, I hope people take something from what you saying.
Nna yena I appreciate the advice.
after watching few videos on BMTVSA and reading this comment i wont lie i feel ready for the world once again.
Im at my first dev job ... i was feeling bit discouraged sometimes i tend to think myb im not good enough bcs of the figures i see other people earning ....all n all good advice sir much appreciated
Small Mistake I have picked up on the Backend, Frontend and Fullstack slide
2-4 Backend = R35 000
2-4 Fullstack = R32 000
2-4 Frontend = R27 000
I apologise for the mistake as it may be misleading, the graph is correct but the table is wrong.
Hitting one more nail on the fullstack gang 😂😂😂😂I am joking man.
You repeated Backend bro, i guess the one that has R27k is Frontend...
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im in matric and will be going to study computer science next year i have been learning python for the last few weeks this video really educated me on development in SA i wont stop learning python but i am going to consider what i actually love about development and software engineering instead of money and finding what i actually want to work with i
thank you
If I may ask, which platform helped you with python?
Syabonga bhuti omdala, this information was very much helpful
This video is a motivation to keep me going, I'm front-end dev
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Thank You Buma for the enlighting info🤝🏾🔥❤
You never disappoint ngiyabonga
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Good morning Sir hope you doing great nice informative video by the way thank you for the effort
So last time I said I was doing my final year this year and I finished my degree passes the last module, watching your videos had an impact on my life Thank you on that.
Keep it up
Thank you, Buma.
Love your videos bro!! Keep it up.. just a heads up for the juniors though, React is a library not a framework (it gets mixed up all the time)..
Thanks for the info!
Love your videos but please try keep your "slide switch tone" the same volume as your speaking voice. It sometimes does that thing where when you are watching tv and the advert is 3x louder than the actual show. Awesome content 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Noted!
When a joke is repeated many times it stops feeling like one. Uyandibulala. 😂
End of the day, do what you find is best for you 🙏
Been waiting for this one 🔥
Always straight to the point
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Good explanation 👏
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this the kinda videos we like
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This is great! thank you for the information.
i know you just posted this video but could you also post one about the best places for one to go to look for these jobs? and the qualifications/resume one needs to be able to confidently enter these spaces.
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That OfferZen Report came in cluth!!
Just right in time when I m just waiting for it
The more you earn the more work you required to do
As it is for every profession
Very informative..repping from GH
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Great video!! As always
I always knew that backend developers on average tend to get paid more than front-end developers but when I soon discovered that a backend dev makes more than a full stack also, I was kinda surprised by watching an interview with Faang employees
My first reaction was kinda a bummer because logically by default I would think that full-stack devs would get paid more. After all, they are full-stack which makes them valuable, but after learning about those 3 types of roles it made sense.
Internationally worldwide Backend developers are paid more than both front-end and full-stack on average it's just 5% to 17% more, But that alone, because some are just different in a weird way that alone doesn't mean you must now break up with your wife, sell your house, quit your job to transition to the backend, quit learning FE. You now think it's a waste of time because you will make peanuts compared to the backend dev, let me clarify some misconceptions. A front end with more experience can make more than a backend with less experience working in a smaller company same story with full-stack, money should not be the reason to want to work In a certain role because you may regret that,
And lastly, In my opinion there are plenty of opportunities to make more money as a front-end or full-stack outside of a job or starting your own thing I can't speak much about the backend but I would assume it's also possible can't see why not, I have seen a handful of independent full-stack devs internationally and here locally in ZA that is making tens of millions per year from their products and services, those who want money I highly
Recommended upskilling themselves and chasing problems within the tech industry not money if it's a million-dollar problem you will make millions if it's a billion-dollar problem you will make billions... Or add value
Great stuff, i also always tell people that if you chasing roles with money instead of chasing what interests you then you will doomed. 👊🏾
It's time to go ask for a raise...
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learning c😂😂😂😂🔥🔥i see what you did there
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Thank you for the insights, bafo👊🏿
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I heard that “C , ALX” 😢
Hahahaha I never said that 🤣🤣😂
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Cima cima😂😂😂
@@okayway3371 no 😢
No ways I'm leaving the SA market ! 😅
Buma dintshang ka that cough at 2:03😂
Mbuzini we are within
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salaries are still high, a friend of mine is a technician earning R15K with three years experience. but they have a software dev qualification. bad career choice.
Yeah technicians aren't earning a lot out there
Not you roasting people and say "just joking"😂
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you meant c++😅 people are in trouble....?
So these salaries you show when you compare Fullstack and Frontend as well as backend it's per month right?
Lunch bar
@@BMTVSA 😂 obvious...
Are you a front or backend developer @BMTVSA ??
Backend Developer
Do you have a discord?
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Hi I did mathlit(70%), accounting(70%), economics(60%) and business studies(80%) in high school. Is it possible for me to do computer science or information systems with those subjects somehow 😢??
.... in university 👆???
Check online for the requirements, I went to varsity around 2013 so the requirements might have changed now. Back then you needed Maths to do a Bsc degree I don’t know if its still the same now or not.
Or just save money, buy a powerful computer and couple screens and self learn your way to expert levelway.
@@thefamousdjx but some companies really need a university degree
@@LehlohonoloMohale-bh2hd i'm 21 I got similar marks to you but didn;t do accounting though however, I'm redoing matric to add maths , because outside of the requirements for credible varsity placements, the skills, mental process given to you thanks to having a decent/strong background in maths is crucial, it's not only about how good you are at maths , in tech some careers, it is required that you have sharp critical analytical thinking skills which will be sharpened far more by core maths vs math lit. companies won't care obviously about if you had math lit or core math, but they may care where you got your qaulification from , i.e a UCT graduate with a decent portfolio could get a job far quicker than a VC graduate with a decent portfolio , key focus is on portfolio though. But which company you go to could be affected by where you studied, and that ofc is affected by your matric. Goodluck
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Do you mean that there's no life for C++ guys
In South Africa yes
@@BMTVSA and why is that so?
@@hossnychandoh6372 South African companies are moving away from it. C++, VB .Net, C etc. are languages that no longer appealing in the South African market, reason is there's now better, efficient, easier to work with languages
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i dont know what motivates other people but getting 10k for creating/designing/debugging/maintaining code is a win to me haii nor its a win.
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u always keep your promises and for that we say To more Great Content my broda🔥🫡
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