I actually love this video. Water purification is such a fascinating topic to me, and the intersection with painting makes it entertaining as hell Most people just toss shit out without a thought. The fact that you even considered this has earned you a sub!
I'm so glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment :) This video took quite a bit of time, planning, discussions and literal science to make, and I'm much more keen on making content like this than just throwing stuff out there. That being said, I've recently done a complete review of my content output and scheduling, and ultimately, there will be a mix of things to come. The Necromunda video from a few weeks back is an example of me throwing stuff out there, and those videos will occassionally be filler to longer more in depth videos, or long-running series I'm looking at. I'll always try and make the videos a good entertaining watch. Pleased to have earned your subscription and hope you enjoy what's to come!
I use iso-propanol for my paint braishes & dilution instead of water. I also recycle the sediment using it for weathering so absolutely nothing goes to waste or needs to be disposed of
This is super interesting! You clean your brushes in ISO? Very affective but I worry a little about how the sable hair might be affected. For synthetic bristles I've heard it's fine, but that it dries out natural bristles. I'd love to see how you separate the sediment and how you then use it in weathering. Super cool and interesting response, thanks dude!! ❤
I collect my waste water in 4liter bottles and dispose them at the local recycle station. I filter and reuse my IPA for my 3d prints and the waste from it goes the same way 🙂
Thanks so much for the info! Big Kudos for having thought about this already. Very reassuring to hear I'm not the only one who's thinking about this sort of thing :)
I dont really think there's a concern about acrylic particles evaporating into the atmosphere. Not any more than there would be with normal drying of the paint, that is. The acrylic and pigments arent volatile - the water is. You could probably pour the water into a wide bin - maximizing surface area - and allow the water to evaporate off, forming a hard layer of paint. It wouldnt be different than thinning paint and letting it dry. This stays true even if you have enamel in it. It would be something like "fordite" - a term for mineral-like paint deposits formed in car factories (of paint) Also, as a Canadian, dont dig at us for having medically assisted death. It doesnt make us look bad that we care about sufferring cancer patients, and aren't hung up on stupid tabboos or superstition. Annoys me that in the 21st century, people are still debating this
Absolutely right with the acrylics and evaporation I think. There's no reason they would bind with the evaporating water base. I'd assume this is true for any of the other elements within the medium either. As for the bin suggestion, in the right environment this would definitely work, in a hotter, less humid climate. It's hot as balls here (and humid), right now, so I could probably attempt it over the next few days - I already save my waste water in a medium sized black bin. And this would indeed work for the enamels, white spirits and Isopropyl as a method of desposing of it all. But I've only had one or two weeks this year so far where even trying that would be worth it. I immediately guess the term fordite originally came specifically from ford factories? Nice little bit of info. As for the last topic, I have a rather complex view of death, one informed from much esoteric study. And a view on sufferring that isn't simple either. Cancer patients aside, I worry more about what I hear when it comes to it being offered to young patients with depression....
seems to me like evaporating is the best method. its simple, much safer than using the flockulation chemicals, and leaves you with a similar waste product. not sure why youre concerned about acrylic hitching a ride in the evaporated water to be honest. acryllic paint offgases on your models, as they dry already. its the same process but with less water and more chemicals. and youre probably painting them indoors, none the wiser to the chemicals youre breathing in. as for concerns about those plastics and chemicals releasing into the environment instead of your house, i think the only actual way to dodge those ethical concerns is to not paint with harmful chemicals. but "dont create waste products." is not exactly advice for someone trying to figure out how to deal with their waste product. while flockulation is an interesting process and im sure this was a fun project to figure out, from a risk/reward perspective, handling all these extra chemicals to arrive at a result so similar to just...setting your paintwater outside for a bit seems silly. so yeah, my long term recommendation is to find paint that you are comfortable with setting outside to offgas without need for flockulation. if youre creating enough wastewater that this is a concern, the best solution is to eliminate the problem at the source. but yeah, really interesting video, you make a lot of good points and i think regardless its awesome youre thinking of your footprint at all
I believe he mentioned not being able to let it evaporate outside because of constant rainy weather and general moisture, cus it's England. Evaporation is what I will opt into doing myself, seems like a good idea to me as well!
Thanks for the comment! Although, it made me wonder if you had watched the video 😂 As I said in the video, evaporation isn't an option in the UK. Maybe 10% of the year there might be a window where it might, but, it's just too muggy and wet here generally for it to work. I'm curious what you mean when you mention acrylic paints off-gasing when I paint with them indoors. Please explain as I've never heard of this. AFAIK acrylic water based paints don't off-gas andything harmful when they dry on a surface. Evaporating your waste water and the drying of paint on a model doesn't at all seem like the same process to me, maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean. Some explanation is needed. Indeed - just don't do it, is terrible and unhelpful advice. You are right about that. Again, as mentioned in the video, evap, not an option in the UK - 90% of the year too wet, humid or cold. "the best solution is to eliminate the problem at the source." Is this just another way of saying just don't do it? Not clear to me. It would be nice to hear back from you on all this!
@@TheMiniMadCat apologies for repeating myself in the comment, it was written pretty late last night. acryllic paints don't off-gas anything harmful to breath when drying, but they do off gas some chemicals. this varies based on the paint but is usually nothing to worry about. the only difference from a chemistry standpoint between letting paint dry and letting your wastewater dry is that your wastewater is mostly water and a little paint, but your paint is mostly paint and a little bit water. i said this in response to the point in your video where you express concern about compounds being released into the atmosphere while evaporating wastewater towards the very beginning of your video. the reason I didn't bring up the weather aspect is I just sort of forgot that point, it's a long video, sorry about that. as for that, it seems pretty unique to your situation that you create such a significant amount of paint water that there is more paint water than days in the year where it could be left to evaporate. I dont want to tell you you're wrong about your own weather, so I won't, but for most people in the world there are enough sunny days to evaporate their paintwater without ever being inconvenienced. and failing a sunny day, a partly cloudy or overcast day can work as well, it is more about temperature and humidity than direct sun exposure. and the very last part of my previous comment was anticipating "oh, my paint is too harmful to leave out, it will stink up the neighborhood.", to which i would want anyone using paint that gross to just use different paint. for their safety as well as environmental to reasons. I do a lot of painting, and during my time at university there were days I'd end up with maybe a dozen coffee mugs of paintwater. letting that water evaporate down in a bucket in our little back garden area was the solution we went with, and it took quite a while before I would have to clean out the sludgey crusty paint mess from the bucket.
@@arcanealchemist3190 I really appreciate the detailed response, that's great and helps clarify it all a bit. No apologies necessary - I don't think I'd consumed my first coffee when I responded at the time myself 😂 Yeah, UK humidity is almost always above 70%, and often goes above 80%. Today it's around 88%. Whilst days where there's an ambient temperature and direct sunlight adequate to evaporate into that humidity is pretty low. Using a container that absorbs heat from direct sunlight would be optimal I suppose if you were able to get it in direct sunlight, so a black pale would be more efficient than a white one. There's definitely going to be a lot of places that can take this option considering this, so very insightful! I may give it a go when we hit peak temperatures here and see how it works. There's only a very small handful of paints I have that have any odour, and even less that are unpleasant. I use them rarely, and they aren't acrylics generally so they don't apply to this aspect of my hobby/employment. Thanks so much for the response, super appreciated!!
It had crossed my mind; I need to look into it. It would be easiest to just try it I suppose, but I don't own acetate. After nearly a week, the waste is still a sludge that doesn't want to solidify D: Thanks for the suggestion!!
Floctastic!
It's all kinds of flocced up 😆 ❤❤❤
Thanks for the review!!! 🐈 😻
A pleasure!! 😆 thank you dude!! ❤🍻
I actually love this video. Water purification is such a fascinating topic to me, and the intersection with painting makes it entertaining as hell
Most people just toss shit out without a thought. The fact that you even considered this has earned you a sub!
I'm so glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment :)
This video took quite a bit of time, planning, discussions and literal science to make, and I'm much more keen on making content like this than just throwing stuff out there.
That being said, I've recently done a complete review of my content output and scheduling, and ultimately, there will be a mix of things to come.
The Necromunda video from a few weeks back is an example of me throwing stuff out there, and those videos will occassionally be filler to longer more in depth videos, or long-running series I'm looking at.
I'll always try and make the videos a good entertaining watch. Pleased to have earned your subscription and hope you enjoy what's to come!
Yet another Quality and informative video Tom. Thanks for sharing. ❤
Nice one Stew!! I appreciate the compliments
WOW! Lots of important information, I do hope that this video will spread ♥
Me too! It's okay if it doesn't but it sure would be nice ❤😆
I use iso-propanol for my paint braishes & dilution instead of water.
I also recycle the sediment using it for weathering so absolutely nothing goes to waste or needs to be disposed of
This is super interesting! You clean your brushes in ISO? Very affective but I worry a little about how the sable hair might be affected.
For synthetic bristles I've heard it's fine, but that it dries out natural bristles.
I'd love to see how you separate the sediment and how you then use it in weathering.
Super cool and interesting response, thanks dude!! ❤
Interesting video mate, You've made the corrupted nutella spread!
😂 yeah you wouldn't want to taste it I'm sure. It still hasn't dried out.. 🤔 cheers dude!!
You're a lunatic and I love it, easy subscribe.
Thank you!! Indeed, I am a bit mental. But it's the ones who think they're sane you have to watch out for! ;) :D
Really interesting ❤
Thanks Raven! I'm glad you found it interesting 😊 Thanks so much for the comment Aswell 😀
I collect my waste water in 4liter bottles and dispose them at the local recycle station. I filter and reuse my IPA for my 3d prints and the waste from it goes the same way 🙂
Thanks so much for the info! Big Kudos for having thought about this already. Very reassuring to hear I'm not the only one who's thinking about this sort of thing :)
Is there a easy way to filter IPA? I hate wasting it.
Yeah, let us know OleBrogger if you can. Maybe its a video idea for you?
I have a video on my channel, but i could not post it here, my post is getting deleted. but i made a video about a year ago
ua-cam.com/video/Wal7KJ3g7YA/v-deo.html
I dont really think there's a concern about acrylic particles evaporating into the atmosphere. Not any more than there would be with normal drying of the paint, that is. The acrylic and pigments arent volatile - the water is. You could probably pour the water into a wide bin - maximizing surface area - and allow the water to evaporate off, forming a hard layer of paint. It wouldnt be different than thinning paint and letting it dry. This stays true even if you have enamel in it. It would be something like "fordite" - a term for mineral-like paint deposits formed in car factories (of paint)
Also, as a Canadian, dont dig at us for having medically assisted death. It doesnt make us look bad that we care about sufferring cancer patients, and aren't hung up on stupid tabboos or superstition. Annoys me that in the 21st century, people are still debating this
Absolutely right with the acrylics and evaporation I think. There's no reason they would bind with the evaporating water base. I'd assume this is true for any of the other elements within the medium either.
As for the bin suggestion, in the right environment this would definitely work, in a hotter, less humid climate. It's hot as balls here (and humid), right now, so I could probably attempt it over the next few days - I already save my waste water in a medium sized black bin. And this would indeed work for the enamels, white spirits and Isopropyl as a method of desposing of it all. But I've only had one or two weeks this year so far where even trying that would be worth it.
I immediately guess the term fordite originally came specifically from ford factories? Nice little bit of info.
As for the last topic, I have a rather complex view of death, one informed from much esoteric study. And a view on sufferring that isn't simple either. Cancer patients aside, I worry more about what I hear when it comes to it being offered to young patients with depression....
I just drink my paint water raw. I was worried about the color of my stool, but my mom says it's probably ok
HAHahahaha. Always listen to mom, mom knows best 😂 Thanks for the chuckle! XD
seems to me like evaporating is the best method. its simple, much safer than using the flockulation chemicals, and leaves you with a similar waste product.
not sure why youre concerned about acrylic hitching a ride in the evaporated water to be honest. acryllic paint offgases on your models, as they dry already. its the same process but with less water and more chemicals. and youre probably painting them indoors, none the wiser to the chemicals youre breathing in. as for concerns about those plastics and chemicals releasing into the environment instead of your house, i think the only actual way to dodge those ethical concerns is to not paint with harmful chemicals. but "dont create waste products." is not exactly advice for someone trying to figure out how to deal with their waste product.
while flockulation is an interesting process and im sure this was a fun project to figure out, from a risk/reward perspective, handling all these extra chemicals to arrive at a result so similar to just...setting your paintwater outside for a bit seems silly.
so yeah, my long term recommendation is to find paint that you are comfortable with setting outside to offgas without need for flockulation. if youre creating enough wastewater that this is a concern, the best solution is to eliminate the problem at the source.
but yeah, really interesting video, you make a lot of good points and i think regardless its awesome youre thinking of your footprint at all
I believe he mentioned not being able to let it evaporate outside because of constant rainy weather and general moisture, cus it's England.
Evaporation is what I will opt into doing myself, seems like a good idea to me as well!
Thanks for the comment! Although, it made me wonder if you had watched the video 😂
As I said in the video, evaporation isn't an option in the UK. Maybe 10% of the year there might be a window where it might, but, it's just too muggy and wet here generally for it to work.
I'm curious what you mean when you mention acrylic paints off-gasing when I paint with them indoors. Please explain as I've never heard of this. AFAIK acrylic water based paints don't off-gas andything harmful when they dry on a surface.
Evaporating your waste water and the drying of paint on a model doesn't at all seem like the same process to me, maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean. Some explanation is needed.
Indeed - just don't do it, is terrible and unhelpful advice. You are right about that.
Again, as mentioned in the video, evap, not an option in the UK - 90% of the year too wet, humid or cold.
"the best solution is to eliminate the problem at the source." Is this just another way of saying just don't do it? Not clear to me.
It would be nice to hear back from you on all this!
@@TheMiniMadCat apologies for repeating myself in the comment, it was written pretty late last night.
acryllic paints don't off-gas anything harmful to breath when drying, but they do off gas some chemicals. this varies based on the paint but is usually nothing to worry about.
the only difference from a chemistry standpoint between letting paint dry and letting your wastewater dry is that your wastewater is mostly water and a little paint, but your paint is mostly paint and a little bit water. i said this in response to the point in your video where you express concern about compounds being released into the atmosphere while evaporating wastewater towards the very beginning of your video. the reason I didn't bring up the weather aspect is I just sort of forgot that point, it's a long video, sorry about that.
as for that, it seems pretty unique to your situation that you create such a significant amount of paint water that there is more paint water than days in the year where it could be left to evaporate. I dont want to tell you you're wrong about your own weather, so I won't, but for most people in the world there are enough sunny days to evaporate their paintwater without ever being inconvenienced. and failing a sunny day, a partly cloudy or overcast day can work as well, it is more about temperature and humidity than direct sun exposure.
and the very last part of my previous comment was anticipating "oh, my paint is too harmful to leave out, it will stink up the neighborhood.", to which i would want anyone using paint that gross to just use different paint. for their safety as well as environmental to reasons.
I do a lot of painting, and during my time at university there were days I'd end up with maybe a dozen coffee mugs of paintwater. letting that water evaporate down in a bucket in our little back garden area was the solution we went with, and it took quite a while before I would have to clean out the sludgey crusty paint mess from the bucket.
@@arcanealchemist3190 I really appreciate the detailed response, that's great and helps clarify it all a bit. No apologies necessary - I don't think I'd consumed my first coffee when I responded at the time myself 😂
Yeah, UK humidity is almost always above 70%, and often goes above 80%. Today it's around 88%. Whilst days where there's an ambient temperature and direct sunlight adequate to evaporate into that humidity is pretty low. Using a container that absorbs heat from direct sunlight would be optimal I suppose if you were able to get it in direct sunlight, so a black pale would be more efficient than a white one.
There's definitely going to be a lot of places that can take this option considering this, so very insightful! I may give it a go when we hit peak temperatures here and see how it works.
There's only a very small handful of paints I have that have any odour, and even less that are unpleasant. I use them rarely, and they aren't acrylics generally so they don't apply to this aspect of my hobby/employment.
Thanks so much for the response, super appreciated!!
Neck it! Good video
When we get to 1 billion subs I'll chugg some paint water XD
Can you use the waste in sprue goo?
It had crossed my mind; I need to look into it. It would be easiest to just try it I suppose, but I don't own acetate.
After nearly a week, the waste is still a sludge that doesn't want to solidify D: Thanks for the suggestion!!