Storm was my most anticipated character because she’s literally one of the best marvel characters ever, but was super let down that even in a marvel game storms abilities were watered down yet again like in the movies. Storm is all about the drama, she literally controls the weather, give me rain, fog, hail like give me something marvel rivals, because having to reload wind and shoot small bursts of lighting while moving so slow up in the air ain’t it chief. Idk Just find it a bit unfair that other characters have such op and game changing abilities, while storm felt like an after thought yet again.
I played the beta and storm was much stronger, like a solid A tier character so whatever happened here i think the raidus shrunk down the output was nerfed
Your hail comment gave me an idea! They could’ve done a team up ability with Luna Snow and her and done a hail ability together or at least an ice effect
I feel like it's the Symmetra situation all over again. They tried to play super safe with her balance because of the fact she perma flies and passively gives buffs. But all of these are so unimpactful, that it doesn't even matter. But at least Symmetra actually has strong utility with her TP and Barrier (even the stupid sonar on turrets helps). And she is definetely stronger in terms of dmg dealing compared to Storm, although she has a lot of downsides herself. Can't wait to see Hela and Hawkeye nerfed (not butchered to the ground though) and some buffs to Iron-Man and Storm. Although i'd rather not have them meta as well. I don't want another Pharrah/Echo-Mercy PTSD
Speak for yourself. I want Hela nerfed to uselessness. Whoever thought that a hitscan mid-long range sniper ass character with a stun, built in escape, and a point-denying ult was a good idea deserves to be put on administrative leave.
@@fanaria2469Iron man is good in a vacuum. It just feels like the game said fuck everyone who can fly or glide. Pretty much every melee feels faster in the air than any flier lol
IDK why people act like permanent flight is such a boon - there's a lot of hitscan type heroes that can easily pop you right out of the sky if you're up in the air at basically no risk to themselves. Hawkeye, Black Widow, Punisher etc. and at Storm's range and 'speed' you literally can't even get out of the way fast enough if you realize it's coming because she floats so slowly everywhere and has no dash or quick movement ability. She's the most predictable floating target ever, it's basically a death sentence.
i was literally jkust playing her for the first time with my friend and i was screaming "WHY IS SHE SO SLOW WHY DOES THIS SPEED BUFF FEEL LIKE HOW I RUN FROM MY KILLERS IN NIGHTMARES ON A TREADMILL IN HEELS WITH ANKLE WEIGHTS" and im glad to find out im the only one who hates how much she feels like a sitting duck.
I don’t know, I found success with Storm. It feels like people are nitpicking because they feel it doesn’t match her comic aesthetic, not because she is weak. I never personally struggled with numbers while playing Storm.
Her kit makes no sense to me. She can fly freely, but gets the most value when teams play close & brawl, so you lose value by using flight for advantageous angles. Add to that how she only has buffs & flight in her kit. No CC, no sustain, no dash. It’s such an oddly designed kit.
Try using her as a flanker that can fly. The auras are nice but trying to play around them can be bothersome if your team is uncoordinated. Dropping onto a team from above their heads and activating lightning storm will absolutely nuke the whole team
@@BobbyGentile I wasn't saying I'm struggling to play her. I was just saying that her kit, by design, is flawed. She can take great off-angles with her flight, but if she does then she won't be getting the most out of her team buffs. The safest way for her to get value from her buffs is to play with a ranged poke team, but her damage output from those ranges is awful. She has the most value with dps & buffs when both teams are brawling, but has no sustain, CC or escape tools to brawl well.
If she has better movement, I definitely feel like she would definitely be really good 😭 I feel like a big back mosquito playing her sometimes since I'm taking my sweet time gliding away 💀 and I agree. The chain lightning should just be part of her original kit anyways
I also can’t tell if it’s just me but why does she look so darn big? Her model is huge. Idk how tall she is (just looked it up she’s 5 11) but why does she look almost as tall as hulk and Thor. It’s so odd for someone so… slow. Otherwise, I think she’s insanely fun due to how challenging she is, and buffing your team is just icing on the cake.
Its so embarrassing trying to fight iron man in the sky sometimes as storm💀 cause he can fly away really quick, hit you really fast and do a whole bunch of damage
I think Storm should have a stun ability. Preferably aoe. Doesn't have to be extremely big. make it small like the one for Scarlet Witch. Make it a lightning that strucks the character. And for mobility/survivability give her dash like you've mentioned, or a invincibility shield made out of wind or lightning for 2 seconds. She desperately needs those changes.
A cool direction with storm would to make her an aoe duelist. Remove the reload from her wind auto attacks and make them hit scan since wind has no air resistance. (Keep the fall off) Make her lighting strike do SLIGHTLY more damage Let her shift also change her auto attacks to lighting that would have no fall off Lower her shift cool down to something below 20 seconds And for her thor team up let her lighting be more conductive (bounce between targets) for all lighting abilities (with fall off ofc)
So to really put this into perspective: starlord shoots 40 rounds per second with each round doing 6.5 damage. That equals 260 dps with his primary fire alone. Each shot can also crit for 2x the damage so his potential dps is an insane 520. Storm shoots 1.5 projectiles per second and deals 50 damage with each shot. She cannot crit. Her max dps with primary fire is 75. How did this make it to launch lmao.
Best buffs would be increasing projectile size by at least 50%. Her whole damage Neche is peirce yet she has 50% damage fall of at 30m and her projectile is so small. - Increase her movement speed boost by at least triple to herself with the passive, I get what they're going for like you boost your team to push in then swap to damage boost but her speed is just negligible. Maybe increase base speed a little bit. - increase her buff area by like 25 to 40%, if you have to be close to the enemy to get full damage you're probably not gonna be close to your team, also the area should be an infinite cylinder not a sphere if you go too high you can't buff anyone which is pointless on a flying character. They could also make ult area bigger, the pull stronger, and make it last longer but decrease damage a bit. Too many ults in the game that just do damage and have no utility. Basically her whole kit contradicts itself
The problem with Storm is that a lot of her numbers are hidden in the background. Firstly, the amount of collective distance traveled or time saved thereafter is a not a shown/counted metric but that’s not very important. Secondly, the amount of damage you supply to your teammates does NOT count towards her own damage. (At least in the practice range with shooting Galacta Bots.) Thirdly, there are some aspects to her kit you haven’t mentioned. Her Bolt Rush (Right Click) can also pierce through enemies and her empowered wind aura actually slows enemies in range. (Also her thunder aura requires line of sight to damage enemies.) Overall; her left click, right click, damage boost, empowered thunder aura, team up ability and ultimate are all AoE damage sources. Their damage scales with the number of enemies she can hit. Quite unorthodox compared to the other duelists, I know. She doesn’t have a single target damage source, that’s why all of them seem lackluster in damage. Storm has a lot of moving parts, some of which are not immediately apparent. I can definitely see why people think she’s a certain way, she’s not for everyone. When I first picked her up, she definitely felt clunky and uncomfortable to control as well but she quickly grew on me. Another part of why she’s often not well taken is that people think she doesn’t represent her comic book presence well. It’s certainly interesting (maybe not to many) to see how they turned an omega level mutant who can control weather and is worshipped as a goddess to a team reliant duelist-strategist hybrid. There are certainly more flashy characters but I’m quite happy with how she is right now. I personally think they reflected her role as a leader well into her gameplay. Although I don’t think she needs any changes as of the moment, I’m completely open to number tweaks or a complete overhaul to her design. She is certainly a unique addition to the roster and I have always been a fan of Storm in almost all X-Men related media.
Yeah, I've been climbing with her I LOVE the support and utility she gives. She's really good at helping defend your supports against flankers. A good team will take advantage of a Storm very well.
Yeah but I think with character like storm being known for her power they should made her a high burst damage flying duelist that Leans into her power fantasy. She’s Storm.
I think storm should really have a secondary weapon like how punisher has his rifle and shotgun, Andre should make use of her ice or snow that isn’t used
i find her overall kit lacking.. double all effects, allow all floating heros to run around on the ground and improve floating and flying.. give her a thunder powered blink where she vanishes forwards 4 meters causing a lightning bolt in her wake
I made a Reddit post about this! And A Strategist rework (though I wouldn't dislike committing her to Duellist either) that goes like: - Removed ammo. - Secondary fire becomes a small AoE bolt of lightning from the sky that stuns and deals a small amount of damage. Leaves behind electrified air that gives a damage boost to allies that walk through it. - Aura and Goddess Boost removed. Instead she now has a Dash and Wind Tunnel. - Wind Tunnel works like a cylindrical version of Juno's Hyper Ring from Overwatch, except it also slows down enemies in addition to speeding up allies. - The dash pushes Storm backwards and blasts a gust of wind in front of her. The gust deals 25 damage and knocks back enemies as well as acting as a wall against projectiles. Storm also gets a +20% move speed boost for 2 seconds after dashing. - Added a healing rain cloud with a very large area that heals for 30hp/second and grants +30% healing received to affected allies (upping the rain's healing to 39hp/second)
The aura could be improved, making it better without needing to empower it with an active ability. It would free a key for a new ability. She could have a "Stun gun" ability, on her base kit, letting you stun a single target. And with the damage she's currently doing, she shouldn't need to reload.
Yeah I felt the same for most of these issues. The falloff damage for a projectile was funny, and I think it’s even more interesting how you’re meant to pierce enemies with your attacks- However, that’s counter intuitive with her flight since you’re aiming at a downward angle most times.
I actually get a LOT of damage on her, I think shes in the middle of the pack of Duelists actually. I do think she should have unlimited ammo though. Besides that only thing I would change is to make the range of her empowered circle bigger when you use your E. You dont really want to be in the enemies faces because they just pop you so fast, so making that range bigger while empowered would feel a lot better. I think Scarlet is actually a lot weaker than Storm lol. But the worst hero has to be Wolverine in my opinion
Well Logan's specialty is taking down Vanguards since he's designed to do more damage against high hp opponents so put him in front of say Venom and he shreds him like paper so he's not bad. Like his catchphrase says: he's the best there is at what he does, and what he does best in this game is tank busting.
It’s not that she lacks damage people just don’t like her because she doesn’t fry people with her mind. I personally think her gameplay reflects her leader side well.
I think that an issue with her primary fire is that it is piercing, but since storm can free fly she will usually be shooting down on enemies, and naturally the projectiles will pierce through the target, usually into the ground without passing through multiple enemies. Maybe if her primary had the chain effect you mentioned with thors team up but with a big damage fall off for the chain aspect of the attack that would make more sense for storm gameplay wise
I mean, Mantis and Luna are supports and they hit like a truck if they can, so I can see her turning into a strategist but also dealing more dmg even more than how she is now. I wouldn't mind if they did that.
I think shed make a great healer, Lokis main weakness is that hes slow. So having her passively heal the team, when its her speed buff, and when its set to lighting you personally heal more. Would be really cool.
Ive started playing her, as a new player with 7 hrs, (3 being on storm) ive been able consistently get 20+ KO's every match with around 3 deaths and plently, plenty assists. From my experience thus far she is very good but unbelievably hard to pick up
Not sure if she's too hard to pick up, I picked her up just to try her out and with 0 time in the practice room, I got 24 KO's, 2 deaths, 31 assists. It was an amazing experience because I usually just play Rocket and Venom. I had no practice, but I DID have a small idea of how people play her from watching vids while looking into other characters' tips and tricks. She's pretty cool imo.
Maybe instead of a powerful lightning bolt she should get a skill to put a stationary weather dome in the arena that lasted for 10 seconds. The weather dome have the same effects as the one that surrounds her but the effects double when her own weather dome combine with the stationary one. The weather dome can be goddess boosted and deadly if the enemies trapped in the intersection of two weather domes. The ultimate can be nerf a bit to balance out her dmg output but it can be use to combine the 2 weather domes safely with the shield and trapping the enemies. She can play defensively by putting her weather dome near her in case a dive hero wanted to kill her or annoy enemies by slowing, dmging, and buff heroes from far away with her casted weather dome.
They should’ve leaned more towards making her a support de-buffer instead of whatever she’s trying to be right now, her tornado aura could speed up teammates and make them reload faster while slowing down enemies and lowering visibility for them, all while surrounding herself in a gale that can blow away projectiles and knock back nearby enemies, her thunder aura could increase attack speed and damage for her team and surround her in a field of lightning that decreases the amount of damage taken and zaps enemies, and she could have a third aura, a blizzard/snowstorm one where she slowly gives herself and her teammates bonus health and/or decreased cooldowns while lowering visibility for enemies and increasing the amount of damage they take, and she could have an ice gale around her that would damage and freeze nearby enemies, and goddess empowerment would increase these buffs and debuffs, striking enemies with lightning in the thunder aura, dealing constant damage to enemies in her tornado and blizzard auras, and also increasing the range of her protective tempests. And maybe she could get a different main attack depending on which aura she’s using, with her tornado aura she could shoot her wind blades which would deal knock back and damage (more than she deals now) and that can stun and blur the senses of enemies that she lands a head shot on, with her thunder aura she could fire two lightning bolts at a time, dealing 120 damage for each bolt, and applying a shock effect or chain lightning effect that could deal some extra damage, and her blizzard aura could give her an ice wind attack that deals damage in a cone in front of her, slowly freezing enemies in the process, it isn’t exactly that hard to get creative with her, despite what they’ve made it seem.
As a storm main I really do think people are over exaggerating how "bad" she is. The first three matches of playing her she very much feels weak and underwhelming, however the more you play her the more you realize she is very good you just have to play smart. As soon as I started playing her in ranked I started dominating, even when there is a good Hela/Hawkeye you just play even safer and can still thrive and bring value to your team. While I do think she needs a buff she definitely is not as bad as people are making her out to be. I feel like if they buff her dmg every single storm main in every rank about to roll people.
@@ShunLi-t5u I am currently diamond 2. Why does this matter towards if she is good or not tho? Because I have seen storms at every rank do well, when played correctly.
I agree although her damage is slightly low overall once you get to know her and a strat you feel works for you she’s decent. Not S tier but can be A tier once you know the kit
@@teeneytempah1 I don't think she is S tier. The reason her dmg is low overall is because you can boost your whole team throughout the match. Also I will say I have been able to easily keep up with or do better than Hela's or Hawkeyes dmg wise.
@@seanapel3544 I totally agree in the right hands she’s strong. I think the main weapon needs to to be made more into a bigger area or and explosions as when your at max range it’s travel speed and drop off isn’t the best but with a slightly bigger area it can correct it without the damage being adjusted
I think it would be cool if she didn’t have to reload and had a spool up like an LMG, I think it would be neat too if you could swap autos with wind and lighting, lighting good for range and headshots, and wind could do small aoes on contact rather than pierce, and have that spool up when using wind.
I love Storm, and I was thinking about maining her because she is fun to play as. She looks iconic, as you say. Her damage is decent. She has good objective control with her ult. If you play around terrain and try to focus around buffing damage and blasting people off the control points, it's fun. If you can get Thor and Cap, and they all run in together it feels powerful. If you could get a Thor duo, it would be fun.
Unfortunately in comparison to other heroes her damage is not good. She has 75 dps with primary fire in comparison to other dps characters insane 300-500 dps.
LShift: Unchanged, but all other abilities change based on the mode you're in. LClick: Wind Slash / Lightning Bolt - Wind Slash does more damage, Lightning Bolt chains like Moon Knight. No reload. RClick: Torrent / Shock - Torrent knocks back enemies, potentially throwing them off the map. Shock briefly stuns (like Peni). E: Updraft / Thunderclap - Updraft is a short dash, Thunderclap instantly drops her to the ground and does damage in an area around the impact based on how high in the air she was. (Because it's funny, Storm can kill herself via Thunderclap.) Ult: Unchanged.
Imagine small tornadoes that slow or stune the enemies, Luna snow blizzard shards, or a dash that make the enemies fly in their place when they are near her, lighting that follow an enemy in a small cloud, sand storms, I think there is a lot of missed potential 😢
Overwatch day 1 players here. It’s because she can fly on command. If she was good, she’d be too oppressive to lower rank players like pharah was to this day in overwatch. Make her shift launch her into the air and disable her permanent flight then she can be buffed easier.
I think if they removed reload, reduced or removed falloff and buffed her self speed she would feel a lot more viable. Sadly she'll still struggle with anti-synergy in her own kit because she's a flying character with an aura mechanic. Still love her though! even if she's a bit of a flop I will still be playing her
I like the idea of chain-lightning. Like her right-click could be chained and being in her zone, being hit, causes chains. I absolutely hate that her main projectiles are so weak, compared to Iron man's AoE bursts on his. Maybe give her main fire magnetism, so they don't miss when she fires. That would make her stand out.
What if instead of two modes, she has to represent the seasons, and her chain lightning switches between the four. For fall, it can create a space that, on impact, knocks back enemies, slows them, and speeds up allies. For winter, it can be a hailstorm, like you said, that freezes; for spring, it can be a huge wave that slows, and then for all enemies that get caught in the rain, she can shock them by clicking the same button no matter where they are. And for summer, bring the whole f ing sun down to earth cause why not and blind all enemies (and maybe allies if they're way too close like a cod flashbang just so that it's not overpowered). and then on top of that she can get like four wind dashes and maybe when people die they leave behind something that when storm hits she gets stackable movement boost until she dies
what i think would be cool if her empowered hurricane summoned a hurricane around her that blocked vision around her and you can only see her (and teammates) if you enter her ring (eye of the storm).
Her possibly being one of the first designed heroes seems likely considering her kit feels incomplete compared to everyone else. She just straight up doesn't have a 3rd ability key and her team-up with Thor feels like it should've been there in the first place. Reworking her also seems like a potential major headache since there's a lot of things that COULD be improved but doing them all at once might just be too much as well. That said, some potential changes I see being a big boon for her would include: 1) Either remove her damage fall-off or increase her rate of fire. As is it already takes more than half her "ammo" to take out a single average HP target assuming they don't have a support glued to them. 2) Give her a 3rd ability key. It can be something like a wind shield or a short dash but both of these would at least do something to address her issue of being an ez target despite being a character who literally has infinite flight. 3) Assuming they don't wanna make a brand new ability for a 3rd ability key, make it where she could amplify either aura effects at different times (something like amplified wind aura on E key and amplified lightning aura on F key). This way her aura can have greater impact at any moment as she could potentially stagger the amplified effects (for example: amplify lightning aura first when engaging in a fight, then amplify wind aura to escape if needed) or she could amplify both at once which would give the team AND herself boosted speed and damage for big fights. There's probably more that could be done, but I'd prefer if the changes from 3) were implemented since it gives the unique trait she has more value for herself and the team, but even just starting with the changes from 1) would do wonders for her since she at least wouldn't be getting outdone by supports in terms of damage as much.
In unranked/ low elo, the only place i find her useful is when you're escorting the convoy. It gives incentive for your your team to stick around and use the buffs, and her E and right click really mess up those assassin dps characters like panther and spidey. Honestly her damage buff is the only one worth using at all, since the speed is barely noticeable.
I think she needs to be able to chain lightning as her primary fire to make her worth playing and make that chain do the most damage to the First and Last person hit by the chain and only works if a Maximum of 3 characters are hit by it , In my opinion it would definitely make people want to play more strategically with her and against her
Some kind of dash have other floating characters, but maybe she could have in air something like Luna skates? After moving in forward for second or two she will gain speed, and will have speed until any action or even rapid direction change.
The best thing they could do is making her attacks a hitscan lightning bolt and replace the current lightning bolt she has with some sort of crowd control wind ability, that would be perfect for the dps / support thing theyre trying to do with her
The fact that your aura shrinks when you try to fly higher is so anti-synergistic! Feel like if she could head shot and fix her aura and possibly hold her right click down and turn it into chain lighting
She needs a new kit, she is required to be near enemies or allies for the debuf/buff but is slow and vulnerable when doing so, unlike Ironman who can go where ever he wants. Healers also tend to ignore flyers which makes it even harder to stay alive against a good team who knows how to aim.
I feel like her primary should be wider and more viable wind effects with a buff to damage. She also needs a dash on a low cool down that moves in a curve to emphasize on the wind aspect.
Hey, Storm main here with ~75% winrate, she is definitely not nearly as bad as most people make her out to be but i do agree she could use some love, here's how I'd buff her. First of all, remove Thor teamup ability and have him simply empower her lightning strike, having it chain to nearby hit targets. Also reduce the cooldown slightly. The two abilities feel far too similar and more importantly, on controllers anyway, takes up a valuable button which could instead be used for... Cloud Burst: Storm creates a cloud around herself and dashs in the direction she's moving (even backwards). Dashing through enemies/teammates will have a different effect depending on her weather. Wind will grant temporary increased speed to allies and apply a slight slow to enemies. Thunder will empower teammates with a temporary increased damage buff when dashed through and enemies hit by the dash will take a small burst of damage. The cloud will continue slowly traveling for a couple seconds in the direction Storm dashed, applying the previous effects to characters it passes through. This should give Storm increased survivability, mobility, utility, and combo potential. I would also take another look at her primary fire, it makes no sense for her to need to reload. So I would start by giving her unlimited ammo similar to Peni Parker and reducing her damage. The damage decrease should be significant because I also would increase her fire rate slightly to feel like you're throwing out more consistent damage but not too fast that it feels like a stream of wind rather than blades. No more than 20%. Lastly, make her able to headshot, this is probably the biggest reason for a damage decrease but it would be so satisfying to be rewarded for hitting the headshots she feels like she should have. Without the reload button being used, she now has room for one last ability, Dampening Mist. When you activate this ability, you can choose a target area with decent range and generate a layer of dampening Mist, enemies standing in the mist, in addition to having their vision lessened, will receive ~30% less healing from all sources. These changes would make Storm a fully fleshed out hero imo, as she definitely feels to be missing something rn as is.
Damage fall-off actually does make sense, at least for the wind attack. But i agree on about every other point. If you feel her biggest issues are she doesnt hit hard enough, she doesn't move fast enough, and she doesn't buff enough, then I think the simplist solution would be to crank up the numbers on her passive team buff ability. Not by too much, but enough to help make things a little more noticeable. Or, maybe make her team buff stronger on herself specifically, and keep the values for twam mates the same.
Hi man. The Buffs are decent stay low as the circle for the buffs get smaller the higher you are. I normally sit in the middle of my group to buff them and the damage is noticeable and you get a lot of assist for being positioned well
@@Blackoutdmc I fight better lower I feel like I’m a sitting duck higher up. Use your team as the cannon fodder and push In with lightning stance hit all your abilities and change to wind stance and back off. Hope it helps abit
I think the right buff for her is to either give her infinite ammo, give her more movement speed during her wind form or add a dash so she's bit more mobile
Storm isn’t brought up in conversations about marvel leading ladies. She IS marvels leading lady. All other conversations will be about how people THINK their girl is the leading lady.
i feel like her primary fire should've been like Scarlet Witch's but lightning. Also, idk if any of you have played Marvel Heroes like 10 years ago, but you were able to spam tornadoes and place aoe dot lightning on the ground and summon hail storms to slow enemies and also chain lightning. So much potential and they ended up with something lackluster.
Storm was the main reason I wanted rivals. I was so happy to get her but was severely disappointed playing her. She feels so ironically underpowered and like you said I gotta hide behind statues cause she moves so slow to dodge . As such I just have her name plate and hope they improve her cause now I main Hela
A couple of things about Storm that people do t realize,that make her better than she seems. Her ult has one of the lowest charge times in the game, and she can charge it very quickly. Since her attacks pierce, every hero hit adds charge, same with her E, every lightning strike adds ult charge. I can usually ult 3 or 4 times each round. I do agree that she needs some sort of dash, her primary fire should not need reloading, and her right click should have a lower cd.
One thing I would like with her is her choice of speed/damage boost to affect her primary and secondary fires as well. Maybe make the wind mode primary a slight slow in an AOE, and the secondary a knockback or something. And the lightning mode could be a hard-hitting hitscan with a secondary that bounces between foes Honnestly I like her, I don't thing she needs much. And I wouldn't want them to add another ability that feels tacked-on at the last minute like "boosts your damage for 3 seconds" or some boring stuff like that
The only time I've felt strong as Storm was when I'd use her E with the lightning aura. (ults don't count, imo) Having lightning strike your target immediately after a wind blade feels impactful. Outside of that, she's just slow and hard to aim with. Also, she requires constant maintenance by the healer to keep alive.
Besides everything you mentioned, the radius she buffs is way too small, and with how slow she moves in the air, you’re either sitting above your team waiting to die or you aren’t buffing anyone anyways 😭
I think the damage boost that Storm provides should count into her own damage stat instead of teammate's. Easily reaching high numbers while doing nothing might be just enough placebo to make average duelist player pick her up, lmao. (This idea also relates to any hero that provides this type of boost)
I'm glad you said this. Her kit is honestly not very creative considering she can control all weather. I just love Storm so much that I really wanna make it work.
I would love at least a defensive ability on her, or maybe change her autos to small wind blast explosions. Maybe an ability that provides a shield to her (maybe allies) depending on the mode she is in. Wind shield absorbs damage and empowers her autos, and maybe lightning shield reflects damage or something.
My experience so far is pushing with team, damage boost w/ Thor and any dive tanks. Activate damage boost mid team fight to proc thunder strikes on enemies for each basic I land (targeting enemy tanks). All enemies in my AOE or constantly getting struck. I tend to get the top assist every match and minimum 8ko- max 30 ko. Pending team composition tho. If no tanks present I would t play her.
She needs some sort of ice storm ability when if she builds a meter of wend and lightning she can use an AOE hail storm to slow enemies and the longer they stay in the AOE they freeze.
For Storm, I think they could even keep her kit and just change the visuals shifting her aura effects to castables instead. Maybe speed boost is a dust devil/tornado that moves forward in a line boosting those in the trail. Maybe the damage boost is a storm cloud that rains and shoots lightning, and enemies inside the storm get raindrops on their screen like rain on a windshield. Maybe for a movement ability she gets a gust of wind to push away an enemy and help her move a small distance to get cover. I think these ‘small’ visual changes would at least make Storm feel more rewarding to play if adamant to keep her kit. Another character that doesn’t feel like what you would expect from the character is Namor (though he isn’t particularly struggling in game). You’d expect him to fly and dive, but he just stands there A pressing, a lot like Storm.
even other bad characters like Iron Man and Wolverine at least have a really solid niche they each have. - Iron Man being one of the few to one shot heros under Lunas and mantis ult. - Wolverine being a strong tank buster and separate them from the opposing team I feel like Storm doesn't have one. Her passive buffs are done by better characters, and Iron Man is a better flyer than her since at least he does solid damage
no reload on primary, and a form of CC like a personal cyclone on an enemy, something to help her backline. I want her back there as another anti dive option, as right now she doesn't really have a great identity, and would fit her Mother energy.
All she needs is a dash skill. You could do one where she turns into a tornado or something Maybe super fast and manueverable with a long cooldown? Even having that one get out of jail free card could be a game changer
Just little clarification. Her enhanced wind actually does slow enemies in range but again.... it's pathetically weak. Not even worth using. I think if they want to keep her as a duelist she needs a few things. 1) As you said no fall off on her SLOW PROJECTILES. It's insane they gave it to her to begin with. 2) No more reloading. Other heroes that hit way harder don't have to reload so that needs to go ASAP. 3) Her speed boost is useless except for coming out of spawn. It needs a massive buff to even be considered using in an actual fight. The boost should be 40% to self and 20% to teammates without enhanced. And 60% boost to self and 40% boost to teammates when enhanced. Also it needs to slow the enemies by like 40%, it's 15% now and it's literally a joke. Not even noticeable. 4) Her lighting should naturally pass to ALL enemies when teaming up with thor. Right now it only passes through 3 and does 35 dmg.... that friggin laughable. Really hope they do a balance patch soon. Storm and Wolverine are suffering so bad rn.
I think the biggest issue is the fact that she is slow as hell she cant dodge anything you can easly hit her so she always dies maybe she would be fine with a little speed adjustments + removing her reload
2:19 That's what me and one of my friends said! Mantis is literally just a better Storm mechanically. Free flight and a PATHETIC speed boost (that I can't even tell if it's working or not if it's not the amped version) is nothing in comparison to a better damage boosting mechanic with better uptime and a primary fire with a larger clip and that can headshot, and a WHOLE ASS HARD CC ABILITY!!! Not to mention that because she's a Strategist, she CAN HEAL!!! Mantis is a better Duelist than Storm! 😭 The buffing aura seems like a severe mismatch with a character that has free flight from a kit synergy standpoint. Storm is my favorite X-Man and honestly just one of my favorite heroes, period. They did her so dirty gameplay wise and it is really pissing me off. Especially when she looks and sounds so good!!! It's really annoying because while most of the characters incredibly powerful with only a handful being underwhelming in comparison, why did it have to be Storm!!! And Wolverine too. And I honestly wish Wolverine was a Vanguard instead and they tweaked his kit a bit to suit that role. Why is the man known for his healing factor highkey got the worst bonus health generation ability? Like shit on my favorite two X-Men, I guess. That being said, I wouldn't mind if they reworked her into a Strategist only because I prefer playing support in video games and would love it if one my favorite heroes actually ended up in the Strategist category. I do like Mantis the best of out of the Guardians, I honestly do not care for them as a whole that much. Rocket is kinda whatever to me as well. Also if Peter Quill has no haters, I'm dead. Luna and Jeff have grown on me though after not knowing who they were and brushing up on my Marvel lore.
Something i noticed about her speed, she's faster in a straight line or straight up. Trying to ascend at an angle quickly is slow....which is dumb. I want her to feel a little closer to Phara with speed
Her thunderbolt (right fire button) is hilarious. The damage is fine I guess, but it should be a chain lightning so it could do AOE damage. Her skill with Thor should be reworked; it's barely useful. Her auto can pierce, but she usually flies in the air, so she can rarely hit multiple enemies.
Honestly, I'm having a tough time playing her. Her duelist skills feel all over the place. That E damaging ability is a pain. I have to get up close to deal damage, but she can't escape. Sometimes I have to play sneaky and ambush, but if I miss, I'm the one who ends up in trouble. Plus, trying to snipe from a distance doesn’t work either since her basic attack is so slow (need to reload) and weak. The only things that seem to work for her are her ultimate and right-click ability. She needs a rework.
Mantis damage is insane full stop. You can run her as your second DPS and it won't be a problem. Plus, you then have 3 strategists, and that's insane sustain. Or run Loki and Adam, and have the same sustain as say, Luna plus Jeff, but do so much more damage
Storm main and avid fan of the Marvel superhero; it was the biggest disappointment when I figured out before even having to experience it first-hand that I cannot play Storm beyond Bronze. I farmed initial days in Ranked purely because people were too dumb to deal with me on Storm. But, as a Hela player also, it was easy to see that the moment I reached even Gold, Storm would become obsolete when you find people that actually look up. I haven't played Storm in Ranked literally since Bronze because of this thought. But she is a fun Quickplay stomper though! And forcing yourself to be effective on Storm can teach you a lot about positioning and not making mistakes! It's like training weights 😆
While I think she's far from the best and doesn't emit the same power fantasy as characters like Iron Fist or Hawkeye, I think she's way stronger than most people give her credit for. I have several hours on her, where she's pretty much my DPS main at this point, and while I would love her to be even stronger, "borderline unplayable" is crazy to me. The best advice I can give is she's way better the lower you fly.
Honestly the worst thing i figured you can do on storm is fly above everyone unless you're in a 1v1 fight. She plays much better closer to the ground with your healers. It also gives better range on her aoe movement and damage boost ability. Her empowered speed up also slows enemies which gives nice peel for your supports. For the most part when I play her I try to stay somewhat far back until my empowered ability is about off cool down. Then I get like right up in their face, and then you can easily burst someone down in a few hits.
Makes no sense that they give a flying character a sphere instead of a cylinder lmfao. You are literally encouraged to stay on the ground so the sphere is at its biggest
Storm: "Speed is everything."
Also Storm: *slowly moving*
I really wish she didn’t need to reload.
I was so surprised by this! WHY DO I NEED TO RELOAD WIND BRUH???
Yeah now the I think about it, why would she need a reload since she can generate lightning on her own?
Exactly they tried to make her more of a "shooter" in this hero shooterinstead of going with her many feats.
lemme reload the wind hold on-
@@aquavulpezfeet🤤
Storm was my most anticipated character because she’s literally one of the best marvel characters ever, but was super let down that even in a marvel game storms abilities were watered down yet again like in the movies. Storm is all about the drama, she literally controls the weather, give me rain, fog, hail like give me something marvel rivals, because having to reload wind and shoot small bursts of lighting while moving so slow up in the air ain’t it chief. Idk Just find it a bit unfair that other characters have such op and game changing abilities, while storm felt like an after thought yet again.
I played the beta and storm was much stronger, like a solid A tier character so whatever happened here i think the raidus shrunk down the output was nerfed
She's definitely a top pick in Marvel vs Capcom and X-Men Legends, let's not forget that, lol. Marvel Rivals REALLY has to do some reworking with her.
@@tkm1875 specifically the first x-men legends and mvc2/street fighter vs x-men. in anything else she is just ok or sucks
@@tkm1875 MVC2 fans are gonna be so disappointed with Storm. In that game she was right up there top tier with Magneto.
Your hail comment gave me an idea! They could’ve done a team up ability with Luna Snow and her and done a hail ability together or at least an ice effect
I feel like it's the Symmetra situation all over again. They tried to play super safe with her balance because of the fact she perma flies and passively gives buffs. But all of these are so unimpactful, that it doesn't even matter. But at least Symmetra actually has strong utility with her TP and Barrier (even the stupid sonar on turrets helps). And she is definetely stronger in terms of dmg dealing compared to Storm, although she has a lot of downsides herself.
Can't wait to see Hela and Hawkeye nerfed (not butchered to the ground though) and some buffs to Iron-Man and Storm. Although i'd rather not have them meta as well. I don't want another Pharrah/Echo-Mercy PTSD
ironman is unironically decent/good when hela/hawkeye are perma banned along with psylocke and other long range shooters
A decent spiderman shits on flying characters. Flying characters can't be meta in this game when there's plenty of anti air options.
Speak for yourself. I want Hela nerfed to uselessness. Whoever thought that a hitscan mid-long range sniper ass character with a stun, built in escape, and a point-denying ult was a good idea deserves to be put on administrative leave.
@@fanaria2469Iron man is good in a vacuum. It just feels like the game said fuck everyone who can fly or glide. Pretty much every melee feels faster in the air than any flier lol
IDK why people act like permanent flight is such a boon - there's a lot of hitscan type heroes that can easily pop you right out of the sky if you're up in the air at basically no risk to themselves. Hawkeye, Black Widow, Punisher etc. and at Storm's range and 'speed' you literally can't even get out of the way fast enough if you realize it's coming because she floats so slowly everywhere and has no dash or quick movement ability. She's the most predictable floating target ever, it's basically a death sentence.
i was literally jkust playing her for the first time with my friend and i was screaming "WHY IS SHE SO SLOW WHY DOES THIS SPEED BUFF FEEL LIKE HOW I RUN FROM MY KILLERS IN NIGHTMARES ON A TREADMILL IN HEELS WITH ANKLE WEIGHTS" and im glad to find out im the only one who hates how much she feels like a sitting duck.
Lmaoo girl cmon..I thought I was done at “heels” but “ankle weights” too 😭
I shall make Storm work! I somehow went from D3 to GM with her. If there is a Hawkeye or Hela it is indeed over for me though...
Waiting for the video to drop, mother. You'll slay it for sure
I don’t know, I found success with Storm. It feels like people are nitpicking because they feel it doesn’t match her comic aesthetic, not because she is weak. I never personally struggled with numbers while playing Storm.
Luckily for us storm players both of them are permabanned diamond and above😂😂
yesss lumi show us how it's done!! ❤
yess lumi girll
Her kit makes no sense to me. She can fly freely, but gets the most value when teams play close & brawl, so you lose value by using flight for advantageous angles.
Add to that how she only has buffs & flight in her kit. No CC, no sustain, no dash. It’s such an oddly designed kit.
Try using her as a flanker that can fly. The auras are nice but trying to play around them can be bothersome if your team is uncoordinated. Dropping onto a team from above their heads and activating lightning storm will absolutely nuke the whole team
@@BobbyGentile I wasn't saying I'm struggling to play her. I was just saying that her kit, by design, is flawed.
She can take great off-angles with her flight, but if she does then she won't be getting the most out of her team buffs.
The safest way for her to get value from her buffs is to play with a ranged poke team, but her damage output from those ranges is awful.
She has the most value with dps & buffs when both teams are brawling, but has no sustain, CC or escape tools to brawl well.
@@BobbyGentileand then you get two shotted by the enemy hawkeye
Would be the worst flanker evee
If she has better movement, I definitely feel like she would definitely be really good 😭 I feel like a big back mosquito playing her sometimes since I'm taking my sweet time gliding away 💀 and I agree. The chain lightning should just be part of her original kit anyways
Whole kit needs a rework for her to be “really good”
I also can’t tell if it’s just me but why does she look so darn big? Her model is huge. Idk how tall she is (just looked it up she’s 5 11) but why does she look almost as tall as hulk and Thor. It’s so odd for someone so… slow. Otherwise, I think she’s insanely fun due to how challenging she is, and buffing your team is just icing on the cake.
Idk her damage is also just... not there
Its so embarrassing trying to fight iron man in the sky sometimes as storm💀 cause he can fly away really quick, hit you really fast and do a whole bunch of damage
I love storm, I think she’s ok but I def agree with a dmg buff and I think her dmg and speed buffs should just apply to her and stack
I think she needs proper flight as well since Iron Man is the only true flier in a sense considering that all Storm can do right now is hover.
I think Storm should have a stun ability. Preferably aoe. Doesn't have to be extremely big. make it small like the one for Scarlet Witch. Make it a lightning that strucks the character. And for mobility/survivability give her dash like you've mentioned, or a invincibility shield made out of wind or lightning for 2 seconds. She desperately needs those changes.
She needs huge buffs in everything she’s horrible right now, and I feel like they didn’t know wether to make her a duelist or a strategist
Yeah the idea is cool for a hybrid type but they just made it super underwhelming maybe they was scared she was gonna be too broken ?
I thought they could make her into a strategist and give her healing rain or something.
We need more healers in the game
A cool direction with storm would to make her an aoe duelist.
Remove the reload from her wind auto attacks and make them hit scan since wind has no air resistance. (Keep the fall off)
Make her lighting strike do SLIGHTLY more damage
Let her shift also change her auto attacks to lighting that would have no fall off
Lower her shift cool down to something below 20 seconds
And for her thor team up let her lighting be more conductive (bounce between targets) for all lighting abilities (with fall off ofc)
Great ideas
As a storm main CLOCKK ITTT 🫰🏾🫰🏾✨
She also doesn't have a passive... which in combination with her only two damage abilities, left click and E, makes her feel so lackluster.
thank you for posting, for spilling. hopefully they rework her soon tbh
Wolverine and storm: the omega F tier mutants
I only play Storm if theres a Thor in the team thats it.
So to really put this into perspective: starlord shoots 40 rounds per second with each round doing 6.5 damage. That equals 260 dps with his primary fire alone. Each shot can also crit for 2x the damage so his potential dps is an insane 520. Storm shoots 1.5 projectiles per second and deals 50 damage with each shot. She cannot crit. Her max dps with primary fire is 75. How did this make it to launch lmao.
Best buffs would be increasing projectile size by at least 50%. Her whole damage Neche is peirce yet she has 50% damage fall of at 30m and her projectile is so small.
- Increase her movement speed boost by at least triple to herself with the passive, I get what they're going for like you boost your team to push in then swap to damage boost but her speed is just negligible. Maybe increase base speed a little bit.
- increase her buff area by like 25 to 40%, if you have to be close to the enemy to get full damage you're probably not gonna be close to your team, also the area should be an infinite cylinder not a sphere if you go too high you can't buff anyone which is pointless on a flying character.
They could also make ult area bigger, the pull stronger, and make it last longer but decrease damage a bit. Too many ults in the game that just do damage and have no utility.
Basically her whole kit contradicts itself
The problem with Storm is that a lot of her numbers are hidden in the background.
Firstly, the amount of collective distance traveled or time saved thereafter is a not a shown/counted metric but that’s not very important.
Secondly, the amount of damage you supply to your teammates does NOT count towards her own damage. (At least in the practice range with shooting Galacta Bots.)
Thirdly, there are some aspects to her kit you haven’t mentioned. Her Bolt Rush (Right Click) can also pierce through enemies and her empowered wind aura actually slows enemies in range. (Also her thunder aura requires line of sight to damage enemies.)
Overall; her left click, right click, damage boost, empowered thunder aura, team up ability and ultimate are all AoE damage sources. Their damage scales with the number of enemies she can hit. Quite unorthodox compared to the other duelists, I know. She doesn’t have a single target damage source, that’s why all of them seem lackluster in damage.
Storm has a lot of moving parts, some of which are not immediately apparent. I can definitely see why people think she’s a certain way, she’s not for everyone. When I first picked her up, she definitely felt clunky and uncomfortable to control as well but she quickly grew on me.
Another part of why she’s often not well taken is that people think she doesn’t represent her comic book presence well. It’s certainly interesting (maybe not to many) to see how they turned an omega level mutant who can control weather and is worshipped as a goddess to a team reliant duelist-strategist hybrid. There are certainly more flashy characters but I’m quite happy with how she is right now. I personally think they reflected her role as a leader well into her gameplay.
Although I don’t think she needs any changes as of the moment, I’m completely open to number tweaks or a complete overhaul to her design. She is certainly a unique addition to the roster and I have always been a fan of Storm in almost all X-Men related media.
Yeah, I've been climbing with her I LOVE the support and utility she gives. She's really good at helping defend your supports against flankers. A good team will take advantage of a Storm very well.
@@FishboyAbzu exactly!!!
Yeah but I think with character like storm being known for her power they should made her a high burst damage flying duelist that Leans into her power fantasy. She’s Storm.
@@Idekbruh13 a part of me needs to see that ngl
@@FishboyAbzu yeah her utility is nice, but it should of been placed on a different character. They 100% should of leaned into her power fantasy
The buff area should definitely be a cone instead of a sphere, so the higher you are, the larger her buff circle on the ground
I think storm should really have a secondary weapon like how punisher has his rifle and shotgun, Andre should make use of her ice or snow that isn’t used
i find her overall kit lacking.. double all effects, allow all floating heros to run around on the ground and improve floating and flying..
give her a thunder powered blink where she vanishes forwards 4 meters causing a lightning bolt in her wake
I made a Reddit post about this! And A Strategist rework (though I wouldn't dislike committing her to Duellist either) that goes like:
- Removed ammo.
- Secondary fire becomes a small AoE bolt of lightning from the sky that stuns and deals a small amount of damage. Leaves behind electrified air that gives a damage boost to allies that walk through it.
- Aura and Goddess Boost removed. Instead she now has a Dash and Wind Tunnel.
- Wind Tunnel works like a cylindrical version of Juno's Hyper Ring from Overwatch, except it also slows down enemies in addition to speeding up allies.
- The dash pushes Storm backwards and blasts a gust of wind in front of her. The gust deals 25 damage and knocks back enemies as well as acting as a wall against projectiles. Storm also gets a +20% move speed boost for 2 seconds after dashing.
- Added a healing rain cloud with a very large area that heals for 30hp/second and grants +30% healing received to affected allies (upping the rain's healing to 39hp/second)
The aura could be improved, making it better without needing to empower it with an active ability. It would free a key for a new ability. She could have a "Stun gun" ability, on her base kit, letting you stun a single target. And with the damage she's currently doing, she shouldn't need to reload.
Yeah I felt the same for most of these issues. The falloff damage for a projectile was funny, and I think it’s even more interesting how you’re meant to pierce enemies with your attacks- However, that’s counter intuitive with her flight since you’re aiming at a downward angle most times.
I actually get a LOT of damage on her, I think shes in the middle of the pack of Duelists actually. I do think she should have unlimited ammo though. Besides that only thing I would change is to make the range of her empowered circle bigger when you use your E. You dont really want to be in the enemies faces because they just pop you so fast, so making that range bigger while empowered would feel a lot better.
I think Scarlet is actually a lot weaker than Storm lol. But the worst hero has to be Wolverine in my opinion
Well Logan's specialty is taking down Vanguards since he's designed to do more damage against high hp opponents so put him in front of say Venom and he shreds him like paper so he's not bad. Like his catchphrase says: he's the best there is at what he does, and what he does best in this game is tank busting.
It’s not that she lacks damage people just don’t like her because she doesn’t fry people with her mind. I personally think her gameplay reflects her leader side well.
Scarlet is NOT weak, her ult just kinda sucks but her main attack does damage based on enemies max hp which you can use to melt tanks
@@Jim_ho I was talking about Storm, sorry.
@@randyrichword7549 ??? I was replying to the og comment saying Scarlet is weaker thand storm
The fact her empowered dmg E also strikes to deal damage is awesome but you have to be so close and you are so slow they just pop you like a balloon
I think that an issue with her primary fire is that it is piercing, but since storm can free fly she will usually be shooting down on enemies, and naturally the projectiles will pierce through the target, usually into the ground without passing through multiple enemies. Maybe if her primary had the chain effect you mentioned with thors team up but with a big damage fall off for the chain aspect of the attack that would make more sense for storm gameplay wise
I mean, Mantis and Luna are supports and they hit like a truck if they can, so I can see her turning into a strategist but also dealing more dmg even more than how she is now. I wouldn't mind if they did that.
I think shed make a great healer, Lokis main weakness is that hes slow.
So having her passively heal the team, when its her speed buff, and when its set to lighting you personally heal more. Would be really cool.
Ive started playing her, as a new player with 7 hrs, (3 being on storm) ive been able consistently get 20+ KO's every match with around 3 deaths and plently, plenty assists. From my experience thus far she is very good but unbelievably hard to pick up
Not sure if she's too hard to pick up, I picked her up just to try her out and with 0 time in the practice room, I got 24 KO's, 2 deaths, 31 assists. It was an amazing experience because I usually just play Rocket and Venom.
I had no practice, but I DID have a small idea of how people play her from watching vids while looking into other characters' tips and tricks. She's pretty cool imo.
Maybe she was harder for me since i was used to scarlets aoe and autoaim, but im so happy i didnt give up on her
@@Beyonces_Granny I'd believe it. I still need to work on my accuracy too, haha. She is hella fun to play tho. :D
Maybe instead of a powerful lightning bolt she should get a skill to put a stationary weather dome in the arena that lasted for 10 seconds. The weather dome have the same effects as the one that surrounds her but the effects double when her own weather dome combine with the stationary one. The weather dome can be goddess boosted and deadly if the enemies trapped in the intersection of two weather domes. The ultimate can be nerf a bit to balance out her dmg output but it can be use to combine the 2 weather domes safely with the shield and trapping the enemies. She can play defensively by putting her weather dome near her in case a dive hero wanted to kill her or annoy enemies by slowing, dmging, and buff heroes from far away with her casted weather dome.
They should’ve leaned more towards making her a support de-buffer instead of whatever she’s trying to be right now, her tornado aura could speed up teammates and make them reload faster while slowing down enemies and lowering visibility for them, all while surrounding herself in a gale that can blow away projectiles and knock back nearby enemies, her thunder aura could increase attack speed and damage for her team and surround her in a field of lightning that decreases the amount of damage taken and zaps enemies, and she could have a third aura, a blizzard/snowstorm one where she slowly gives herself and her teammates bonus health and/or decreased cooldowns while lowering visibility for enemies and increasing the amount of damage they take, and she could have an ice gale around her that would damage and freeze nearby enemies, and goddess empowerment would increase these buffs and debuffs, striking enemies with lightning in the thunder aura, dealing constant damage to enemies in her tornado and blizzard auras, and also increasing the range of her protective tempests.
And maybe she could get a different main attack depending on which aura she’s using, with her tornado aura she could shoot her wind blades which would deal knock back and damage (more than she deals now) and that can stun and blur the senses of enemies that she lands a head shot on, with her thunder aura she could fire two lightning bolts at a time, dealing 120 damage for each bolt, and applying a shock effect or chain lightning effect that could deal some extra damage, and her blizzard aura could give her an ice wind attack that deals damage in a cone in front of her, slowly freezing enemies in the process, it isn’t exactly that hard to get creative with her, despite what they’ve made it seem.
As a storm main I really do think people are over exaggerating how "bad" she is. The first three matches of playing her she very much feels weak and underwhelming, however the more you play her the more you realize she is very good you just have to play smart. As soon as I started playing her in ranked I started dominating, even when there is a good Hela/Hawkeye you just play even safer and can still thrive and bring value to your team. While I do think she needs a buff she definitely is not as bad as people are making her out to be. I feel like if they buff her dmg every single storm main in every rank about to roll people.
What rank are you?
@@ShunLi-t5u I am currently diamond 2. Why does this matter towards if she is good or not tho? Because I have seen storms at every rank do well, when played correctly.
I agree although her damage is slightly low overall once you get to know her and a strat you feel works for you she’s decent. Not S tier but can be A tier once you know the kit
@@teeneytempah1 I don't think she is S tier. The reason her dmg is low overall is because you can boost your whole team throughout the match. Also I will say I have been able to easily keep up with or do better than Hela's or Hawkeyes dmg wise.
@@seanapel3544 I totally agree in the right hands she’s strong. I think the main weapon needs to to be made more into a bigger area or and explosions as when your at max range it’s travel speed and drop off isn’t the best but with a slightly bigger area it can correct it without the damage being adjusted
I think it would be cool if she didn’t have to reload and had a spool up like an LMG, I think it would be neat too if you could swap autos with wind and lighting, lighting good for range and headshots, and wind could do small aoes on contact rather than pierce, and have that spool up when using wind.
I love Storm, and I was thinking about maining her because she is fun to play as. She looks iconic, as you say. Her damage is decent. She has good objective control with her ult. If you play around terrain and try to focus around buffing damage and blasting people off the control points, it's fun. If you can get Thor and Cap, and they all run in together it feels powerful. If you could get a Thor duo, it would be fun.
Unfortunately in comparison to other heroes her damage is not good. She has 75 dps with primary fire in comparison to other dps characters insane 300-500 dps.
LShift: Unchanged, but all other abilities change based on the mode you're in.
LClick: Wind Slash / Lightning Bolt - Wind Slash does more damage, Lightning Bolt chains like Moon Knight. No reload.
RClick: Torrent / Shock - Torrent knocks back enemies, potentially throwing them off the map. Shock briefly stuns (like Peni).
E: Updraft / Thunderclap - Updraft is a short dash, Thunderclap instantly drops her to the ground and does damage in an area around the impact based on how high in the air she was. (Because it's funny, Storm can kill herself via Thunderclap.)
Ult: Unchanged.
Imagine small tornadoes that slow or stune the enemies, Luna snow blizzard shards, or a dash that make the enemies fly in their place when they are near her, lighting that follow an enemy in a small cloud, sand storms, I think there is a lot of missed potential 😢
Overwatch day 1 players here. It’s because she can fly on command. If she was good, she’d be too oppressive to lower rank players like pharah was to this day in overwatch. Make her shift launch her into the air and disable her permanent flight then she can be buffed easier.
I think if they removed reload, reduced or removed falloff and buffed her self speed she would feel a lot more viable. Sadly she'll still struggle with anti-synergy in her own kit because she's a flying character with an aura mechanic. Still love her though! even if she's a bit of a flop I will still be playing her
I like the idea of chain-lightning.
Like her right-click could be chained and being in her zone, being hit, causes chains.
I absolutely hate that her main projectiles are so weak, compared to Iron man's AoE bursts on his. Maybe give her main fire magnetism, so they don't miss when she fires. That would make her stand out.
What if instead of two modes, she has to represent the seasons, and her chain lightning switches between the four. For fall, it can create a space that, on impact, knocks back enemies, slows them, and speeds up allies. For winter, it can be a hailstorm, like you said, that freezes; for spring, it can be a huge wave that slows, and then for all enemies that get caught in the rain, she can shock them by clicking the same button no matter where they are. And for summer, bring the whole f ing sun down to earth cause why not and blind all enemies (and maybe allies if they're way too close like a cod flashbang just so that it's not overpowered). and then on top of that she can get like four wind dashes and maybe when people die they leave behind something that when storm hits she gets stackable movement boost until she dies
Kinda funny how her lightning attacks are slow projectiles and not instant hitscarn lightning
When it rains its just a mild sprinkle apparently 💀💀
what i think would be cool if her empowered hurricane summoned a hurricane around her that blocked vision around her and you can only see her (and teammates) if you enter her ring (eye of the storm).
Her possibly being one of the first designed heroes seems likely considering her kit feels incomplete compared to everyone else. She just straight up doesn't have a 3rd ability key and her team-up with Thor feels like it should've been there in the first place.
Reworking her also seems like a potential major headache since there's a lot of things that COULD be improved but doing them all at once might just be too much as well. That said, some potential changes I see being a big boon for her would include:
1) Either remove her damage fall-off or increase her rate of fire. As is it already takes more than half her "ammo" to take out a single average HP target assuming they don't have a support glued to them.
2) Give her a 3rd ability key. It can be something like a wind shield or a short dash but both of these would at least do something to address her issue of being an ez target despite being a character who literally has infinite flight.
3) Assuming they don't wanna make a brand new ability for a 3rd ability key, make it where she could amplify either aura effects at different times (something like amplified wind aura on E key and amplified lightning aura on F key). This way her aura can have greater impact at any moment as she could potentially stagger the amplified effects (for example: amplify lightning aura first when engaging in a fight, then amplify wind aura to escape if needed) or she could amplify both at once which would give the team AND herself boosted speed and damage for big fights.
There's probably more that could be done, but I'd prefer if the changes from 3) were implemented since it gives the unique trait she has more value for herself and the team, but even just starting with the changes from 1) would do wonders for her since she at least wouldn't be getting outdone by supports in terms of damage as much.
In unranked/ low elo, the only place i find her useful is when you're escorting the convoy. It gives incentive for your your team to stick around and use the buffs, and her E and right click really mess up those assassin dps characters like panther and spidey. Honestly her damage buff is the only one worth using at all, since the speed is barely noticeable.
I think she needs to be able to chain lightning as her primary fire to make her worth playing and make that chain do the most damage to the First and Last person hit by the chain and only works if a Maximum of 3 characters are hit by it , In my opinion it would definitely make people want to play more strategically with her and against her
Some kind of dash have other floating characters, but maybe she could have in air something like Luna skates? After moving in forward for second or two she will gain speed, and will have speed until any action or even rapid direction change.
The best thing they could do is making her attacks a hitscan lightning bolt and replace the current lightning bolt she has with some sort of crowd control wind ability, that would be perfect for the dps / support thing theyre trying to do with her
Since they don't have any "Rain/Snow" implemented in her kit, they can make her Speed boost AOE effect slow and deal damage to targets?
The fact that your aura shrinks when you try to fly higher is so anti-synergistic! Feel like if she could head shot and fix her aura and possibly hold her right click down and turn it into chain lighting
She needs a new kit, she is required to be near enemies or allies for the debuf/buff but is slow and vulnerable when doing so, unlike Ironman who can go where ever he wants. Healers also tend to ignore flyers which makes it even harder to stay alive against a good team who knows how to aim.
I feel like her primary should be wider and more viable wind effects with a buff to damage. She also needs a dash on a low cool down that moves in a curve to emphasize on the wind aspect.
Hey, Storm main here with ~75% winrate, she is definitely not nearly as bad as most people make her out to be but i do agree she could use some love, here's how I'd buff her.
First of all, remove Thor teamup ability and have him simply empower her lightning strike, having it chain to nearby hit targets. Also reduce the cooldown slightly. The two abilities feel far too similar and more importantly, on controllers anyway, takes up a valuable button which could instead be used for...
Cloud Burst: Storm creates a cloud around herself and dashs in the direction she's moving (even backwards). Dashing through enemies/teammates will have a different effect depending on her weather. Wind will grant temporary increased speed to allies and apply a slight slow to enemies. Thunder will empower teammates with a temporary increased damage buff when dashed through and enemies hit by the dash will take a small burst of damage. The cloud will continue slowly traveling for a couple seconds in the direction Storm dashed, applying the previous effects to characters it passes through. This should give Storm increased survivability, mobility, utility, and combo potential.
I would also take another look at her primary fire, it makes no sense for her to need to reload. So I would start by giving her unlimited ammo similar to Peni Parker and reducing her damage. The damage decrease should be significant because I also would increase her fire rate slightly to feel like you're throwing out more consistent damage but not too fast that it feels like a stream of wind rather than blades. No more than 20%. Lastly, make her able to headshot, this is probably the biggest reason for a damage decrease but it would be so satisfying to be rewarded for hitting the headshots she feels like she should have.
Without the reload button being used, she now has room for one last ability, Dampening Mist. When you activate this ability, you can choose a target area with decent range and generate a layer of dampening Mist, enemies standing in the mist, in addition to having their vision lessened, will receive ~30% less healing from all sources.
These changes would make Storm a fully fleshed out hero imo, as she definitely feels to be missing something rn as is.
Damage fall-off actually does make sense, at least for the wind attack. But i agree on about every other point. If you feel her biggest issues are she doesnt hit hard enough, she doesn't move fast enough, and she doesn't buff enough, then I think the simplist solution would be to crank up the numbers on her passive team buff ability. Not by too much, but enough to help make things a little more noticeable. Or, maybe make her team buff stronger on herself specifically, and keep the values for twam mates the same.
Hi man. The Buffs are decent stay low as the circle for the buffs get smaller the higher you are. I normally sit in the middle of my group to buff them and the damage is noticeable and you get a lot of assist for being positioned well
@teeneytempah1 oooh, it's a sphere not a cylinder? Good to know!
@@Blackoutdmc I fight better lower I feel like I’m a sitting duck higher up. Use your team as the cannon fodder and push In with lightning stance hit all your abilities and change to wind stance and back off. Hope it helps abit
I think a damage buff or having no reload would help her a lot, including a slight speed both.
She's just so slow. You feel like a sitting duck in a game this fast paced.
Mara Junot always voiced the baddies like Lisa, Evelynn, and now Storm.
I think the right buff for her is to either give her infinite ammo, give her more movement speed during her wind form or add a dash so she's bit more mobile
Storm isn’t brought up in conversations about marvel leading ladies. She IS marvels leading lady. All other conversations will be about how people THINK their girl is the leading lady.
Storm, Omega-level mutant, one of the front faces of mutant comics, deal less damage than a side character in Guardians of the Galaxy
i feel like her primary fire should've been like Scarlet Witch's but lightning. Also, idk if any of you have played Marvel Heroes like 10 years ago, but you were able to spam tornadoes and place aoe dot lightning on the ground and summon hail storms to slow enemies and also chain lightning. So much potential and they ended up with something lackluster.
Storm was the main reason I wanted rivals. I was so happy to get her but was severely disappointed playing her. She feels so ironically underpowered and like you said I gotta hide behind statues cause she moves so slow to dodge . As such I just have her name plate and hope they improve her cause now I main Hela
A couple of things about Storm that people do t realize,that make her better than she seems. Her ult has one of the lowest charge times in the game, and she can charge it very quickly. Since her attacks pierce, every hero hit adds charge, same with her E, every lightning strike adds ult charge. I can usually ult 3 or 4 times each round. I do agree that she needs some sort of dash, her primary fire should not need reloading, and her right click should have a lower cd.
Shes really good if you play her like a support, play with your team and never try to 1v1. She really shouldn't be called a duelist.
One thing I would like with her is her choice of speed/damage boost to affect her primary and secondary fires as well. Maybe make the wind mode primary a slight slow in an AOE, and the secondary a knockback or something. And the lightning mode could be a hard-hitting hitscan with a secondary that bounces between foes
Honnestly I like her, I don't thing she needs much. And I wouldn't want them to add another ability that feels tacked-on at the last minute like "boosts your damage for 3 seconds" or some boring stuff like that
The only time I've felt strong as Storm was when I'd use her E with the lightning aura. (ults don't count, imo) Having lightning strike your target immediately after a wind blade feels impactful. Outside of that, she's just slow and hard to aim with. Also, she requires constant maintenance by the healer to keep alive.
Besides everything you mentioned, the radius she buffs is way too small, and with how slow she moves in the air, you’re either sitting above your team waiting to die or you aren’t buffing anyone anyways 😭
I recommend 1 tank 2 healers and 3 dps with Storm as one of them. That is the only place where she feels useful at the moment.
I think the damage boost that Storm provides should count into her own damage stat instead of teammate's.
Easily reaching high numbers while doing nothing might be just enough placebo to make average duelist player pick her up, lmao.
(This idea also relates to any hero that provides this type of boost)
I think all she needs is a smaller cool down on lightning blast and definitely a quick dash ability with a small boost to overall speed
i main storm and i completely agree 🥲
Storm got done dirty in this game. Captain America can throw his shield several times with Thor's power up, but she throws one static ball?
I'm glad you said this. Her kit is honestly not very creative considering she can control all weather. I just love Storm so much that I really wanna make it work.
I would love at least a defensive ability on her, or maybe change her autos to small wind blast explosions.
Maybe an ability that provides a shield to her (maybe allies) depending on the mode she is in. Wind shield absorbs damage and empowers her autos, and maybe lightning shield reflects damage or something.
Honestly only thing that she needs is: Autos auto hit like cloak and dagger. OR! Her autos need to become Starlord / Punisher fast.
My experience so far is pushing with team, damage boost w/ Thor and any dive tanks. Activate damage boost mid team fight to proc thunder strikes on enemies for each basic I land (targeting enemy tanks). All enemies in my AOE or constantly getting struck.
I tend to get the top assist every match and minimum 8ko- max 30 ko.
Pending team composition tho. If no tanks present I would t play her.
She needs some sort of ice storm ability when if she builds a meter of wend and lightning she can use an AOE hail storm to slow enemies and the longer they stay in the AOE they freeze.
Agreed, the only time I ever play as Storm is when I use Loki's ult cause her ult is actually good lol
For Storm, I think they could even keep her kit and just change the visuals shifting her aura effects to castables instead. Maybe speed boost is a dust devil/tornado that moves forward in a line boosting those in the trail. Maybe the damage boost is a storm cloud that rains and shoots lightning, and enemies inside the storm get raindrops on their screen like rain on a windshield. Maybe for a movement ability she gets a gust of wind to push away an enemy and help her move a small distance to get cover. I think these ‘small’ visual changes would at least make Storm feel more rewarding to play if adamant to keep her kit.
Another character that doesn’t feel like what you would expect from the character is Namor (though he isn’t particularly struggling in game). You’d expect him to fly and dive, but he just stands there A pressing, a lot like Storm.
even other bad characters like Iron Man and Wolverine at least have a really solid niche they each have.
- Iron Man being one of the few to one shot heros under Lunas and mantis ult.
- Wolverine being a strong tank buster and separate them from the opposing team
I feel like Storm doesn't have one. Her passive buffs are done by better characters, and Iron Man is a better flyer than her since at least he does solid damage
Meanwhile Storm is my principal weapon to open opponents
no reload on primary, and a form of CC like a personal cyclone on an enemy, something to help her backline. I want her back there as another anti dive option, as right now she doesn't really have a great identity, and would fit her Mother energy.
All she needs is a dash skill.
You could do one where she turns into a tornado or something
Maybe super fast and manueverable with a long cooldown?
Even having that one get out of jail free card could be a game changer
Just little clarification. Her enhanced wind actually does slow enemies in range but again.... it's pathetically weak. Not even worth using. I think if they want to keep her as a duelist she needs a few things.
1) As you said no fall off on her SLOW PROJECTILES. It's insane they gave it to her to begin with.
2) No more reloading. Other heroes that hit way harder don't have to reload so that needs to go ASAP.
3) Her speed boost is useless except for coming out of spawn. It needs a massive buff to even be considered using in an actual fight. The boost should be 40% to self and 20% to teammates without enhanced. And 60% boost to self and 40% boost to teammates when enhanced. Also it needs to slow the enemies by like 40%, it's 15% now and it's literally a joke. Not even noticeable.
4) Her lighting should naturally pass to ALL enemies when teaming up with thor. Right now it only passes through 3 and does 35 dmg.... that friggin laughable.
Really hope they do a balance patch soon. Storm and Wolverine are suffering so bad rn.
Happy for her to become an Ironman clone with similar movelist
I think the biggest issue is the fact that she is slow as hell she cant dodge anything you can easly hit her so she always dies maybe she would be fine with a little speed adjustments + removing her reload
2:19 That's what me and one of my friends said! Mantis is literally just a better Storm mechanically. Free flight and a PATHETIC speed boost (that I can't even tell if it's working or not if it's not the amped version) is nothing in comparison to a better damage boosting mechanic with better uptime and a primary fire with a larger clip and that can headshot, and a WHOLE ASS HARD CC ABILITY!!! Not to mention that because she's a Strategist, she CAN HEAL!!! Mantis is a better Duelist than Storm! 😭
The buffing aura seems like a severe mismatch with a character that has free flight from a kit synergy standpoint. Storm is my favorite X-Man and honestly just one of my favorite heroes, period. They did her so dirty gameplay wise and it is really pissing me off. Especially when she looks and sounds so good!!! It's really annoying because while most of the characters incredibly powerful with only a handful being underwhelming in comparison, why did it have to be Storm!!! And Wolverine too. And I honestly wish Wolverine was a Vanguard instead and they tweaked his kit a bit to suit that role. Why is the man known for his healing factor highkey got the worst bonus health generation ability? Like shit on my favorite two X-Men, I guess.
That being said, I wouldn't mind if they reworked her into a Strategist only because I prefer playing support in video games and would love it if one my favorite heroes actually ended up in the Strategist category. I do like Mantis the best of out of the Guardians, I honestly do not care for them as a whole that much. Rocket is kinda whatever to me as well. Also if Peter Quill has no haters, I'm dead. Luna and Jeff have grown on me though after not knowing who they were and brushing up on my Marvel lore.
Something i noticed about her speed, she's faster in a straight line or straight up. Trying to ascend at an angle quickly is slow....which is dumb. I want her to feel a little closer to Phara with speed
Her thunderbolt (right fire button) is hilarious. The damage is fine I guess, but it should be a chain lightning so it could do AOE damage. Her skill with Thor should be reworked; it's barely useful. Her auto can pierce, but she usually flies in the air, so she can rarely hit multiple enemies.
Honestly, I'm having a tough time playing her. Her duelist skills feel all over the place. That E damaging ability is a pain. I have to get up close to deal damage, but she can't escape. Sometimes I have to play sneaky and ambush, but if I miss, I'm the one who ends up in trouble. Plus, trying to snipe from a distance doesn’t work either since her basic attack is so slow (need to reload) and weak. The only things that seem to work for her are her ultimate and right-click ability. She needs a rework.
Mantis damage is insane full stop. You can run her as your second DPS and it won't be a problem. Plus, you then have 3 strategists, and that's insane sustain. Or run Loki and Adam, and have the same sustain as say, Luna plus Jeff, but do so much more damage
Storm main and avid fan of the Marvel superhero; it was the biggest disappointment when I figured out before even having to experience it first-hand that I cannot play Storm beyond Bronze. I farmed initial days in Ranked purely because people were too dumb to deal with me on Storm. But, as a Hela player also, it was easy to see that the moment I reached even Gold, Storm would become obsolete when you find people that actually look up. I haven't played Storm in Ranked literally since Bronze because of this thought. But she is a fun Quickplay stomper though! And forcing yourself to be effective on Storm can teach you a lot about positioning and not making mistakes! It's like training weights 😆
While I think she's far from the best and doesn't emit the same power fantasy as characters like Iron Fist or Hawkeye, I think she's way stronger than most people give her credit for. I have several hours on her, where she's pretty much my DPS main at this point, and while I would love her to be even stronger, "borderline unplayable" is crazy to me. The best advice I can give is she's way better the lower you fly.
Honestly the worst thing i figured you can do on storm is fly above everyone unless you're in a 1v1 fight. She plays much better closer to the ground with your healers. It also gives better range on her aoe movement and damage boost ability. Her empowered speed up also slows enemies which gives nice peel for your supports. For the most part when I play her I try to stay somewhat far back until my empowered ability is about off cool down. Then I get like right up in their face, and then you can easily burst someone down in a few hits.
Makes no sense that they give a flying character a sphere instead of a cylinder lmfao. You are literally encouraged to stay on the ground so the sphere is at its biggest
Not like a paper bag drifting through the wind🤭😭😭