Clement of Alexandria in the early 2nd century said of God “How is He Lord and Savior if he is not Lord and Savior of all?” Well said Clement… Well said. 😊
I've been struggling with alot of things in my personal life here lately but this video warms my heart brother. It was like after I was baptized this summer my walk just got harder. I thank God for this video.
Because Satan (meaning our enemy/adversary) will pursue you much harder because he is losing you and you are gaining Christ. It's not easy being Christian, if it were everybody would be one 😂 but people prefer their darkness of sin rather then the light of righteousness. Shalom Shalom brother
trials are meant to perfect us and perfect our obedience. Embrace and rejoice in them as long as you are remaining in Christ through them that is, for if you do endure them faithfully, there is great reward and in them you develop in character, perseverance, and hope. They are well worth the cost of admission. If you wish to share in His life you must share also in His suffering.
Pruning is medicine for the tree❤ I love this! Our Heavenly Father is such a good Father! My earthly father is sad and hurtful....it is heartbreaking. I've spent my whole life waiting for his approval and blessing on my life~ I'm 42 and it has not come. 😢 My Heavenly Father has stepped in and blessed me, He accepts me fully, He guides me, He is proud of me ❤ I love Him so much!!
@@briankelly9347 so removed that he became a Human, was so poor his family could only afford the turtledoves sacrifice, and lived and worked with the outcasts until his ultimate goal came, to be sacrificed for your sake- to pay for sins like your sins- if thats not love, then we could never know what is
This is one of the best videos I have seen that a human made, about the understanding of the scriptures, and it is so important, Wow it’s so accurate and beautiful.
And you are also being deceived as well and if you would be in Hell you would be in the lake of fire forever and ever and you would have been tormented day and Night forever so don't get comfortable
Thank you Michael for this presentation. I have a three part presentation entitled "Be Reconciled to God" which will come out soon. Two episodes are complete and I am working on a third. Some of the same information is in it. Thank you for highlighting the love of God through His Son Jesus, "the savior of the whole world." You have made some excellent points in this presentation which never occurred to me.
brother We Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Right and that eternal torment punishment is not true Because Many Christian Hold the view of eternal conscous torment and calls ùniversalism a heritic May Our Beliefs in Universal Salvation is True and Correct and may the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with Us Always
@@johnkristofftimbal5053 well guess what? Eternal punishment is true because that's what the bible says so yeah it is eternal Hell fire and sulfur which is the second death so don't believe this bull crap video and believe what the bible really says
Shalom my beloved brother Michael. Peace, mercy and grace be with you and your loved ones. Thank you for your patience and kindness towards those who are in need of the truth in Christ Jesus our Lord. Giving people hope and joy through your messages. Praise God! May our heavenly Father Jesus bless you and all those who are in need of the victorious Gospel of Christ with peace and love. Amen.
@@johnkristofftimbal5053 Shalom Cris Peace be to you. Very much appreciated that you want to talk to us again. Is it not written in their own scriptures? Do not be afraid, we do not have a spirit of fear but of love, power and a sound mind. Note: Love = the spirit Power is the body Mind = the soul (2 Timothy 1:7) God is love, perfect love and casts out fear, the fear of punishment. Go figure 😀 (1 John 4:18) Colossians 1:19-20 (New American Standard Bible) 19 For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, 20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. to reconcile *all things* to Himself. Period. God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. (1 john 1:5) The Lord our God will save everyone, all in their own order. No exceptions. Have a great day knowing that our Lord loves us all equally. Rejoice therefore. Now Cris and all my other brothers and sisters, please go out into this world and treat another as you would like to be treated. May God bless you all. Amen.
@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 brother Pray for me that I will Not Go in hell for Eternity, Most ECT believe Hell is eternity Hellfire is Eternity what they Believe Pray for me To Overcome my sins and Pray for me also that i will Not Go in Hellfire Let Us Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is true and correct and that ECT is not Let Us Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Correct what we Believe
@@johnkristofftimbal5053 Shalom Cris Peace be to you. Again we thank you for your response. As we have explained many times towards you, there is no hell. That is a mumbo jumbo story to keep the masses sedated with fear. For the obvious reasons of power, money and sex. Any that preach a message of fear, your message as well, do not know God. God is perfect love. It's that simple. So stop putting yourself in fear through messages of those who serve themselves instead of God. Who are the anti-Christ. Read our messages and my beloved brother Michael his uploads as many times as needed and ask The Lord your God to increase that what you need. Thank you again for your extended time and patience, Cris. May The Lord Jesus convince you of these things that your brothers in Christ say to you in truth. Amen.
@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 thank you brother, I Am Vince sarigumba my real name and Pray for me that I will Overcome my sins in my Life that i will be Set Free from sin and to Overcome this sins in me, for me Universalism and Conditional immortality annihilationism is what in my mind as now i dont anymore believed in eternal conscouis torment
Thank you for this very enlightening lesson. I have been a missionary and believer in Universal Reconciliation for decades. I like the in depth, sincere and very scripturally convincing way you teach this truth. Your take on Matt 25 was very instructive. God bless you and your very important ministry.
Thank you so so much for all the work you do in digging for evidence "from the Bible" to refute this ungodly disgusting false doctrine. I thank and praise God for you also. It is not easy trying to reveal this lie to people because life long religious beliefs are very hard to shake.
This was a brilliant presentation of Biblical support for universalism. I have already accepted philosophical arguments for why if God exists, universalism would be the case, and the problem of Hell as eternal conscious torture was so strong that it would pretty much stop any evidential discussion on Christianity. This is still the case if the discussion is had with a traditionalist Christian, but the problem of Hell quickly evaporates in a discussion with a universalist. Your case here convinced me that Christians can have a robust Biblical support for universalism, and that not only is this view tenable but perhaps the one that is more likely to be true. The problem of Hell clearly does not apply to the Christian universalist. I think that most, if not all Christians should adopt this view because it does not cost them anything - it is not unorthodox, it is not heretical, and it raises the prior probability of Christianity being true significantly by overcoming the logical problem of Hell. This could be an important move in discussions with nonbelievers like me.
@@johndalton1043 I think that the point of justice is to correct cases of injustice rather than to enact retribution. Needless to say, a loving deity would probably prefer this path as well. Consider the following case: A person steals some money from someone else. The thief is found and punished by having his hand cut off. Now, consider the same case but this time the thief is made to repay what they had stolen. What use is there for the wronged party to have the thief maimed? This does not correct the injustice that was done to them. And once they are repaid, what use is their for society in general to have the thief maimed, given that they could be rehabilitated to become productive a member of society? Retribution rarely serves any justice, and certainly does not do so better than wise correction. I find it preposterous to call someone good, just, wise and loving, and vengeful and lustful for retribution at the same time. It is not simply preposterous. It is incoherent.
@@Nexus-jg7ev 💯! Jesus was given a similar scenario when the lady caught in adultery was thrown at His feet. Notice, He saves her BEFORE she calls him Lord. Thus, proactive salvation. Does He condemn her? Not at all. He loved her enough to save her and correct her (sin no more). I believe in a bigger Jesus than most fractions of westernized Christianity.
@@johndalton1043no the big God or The One Above All only has domain over Muslims, jews and Christians, aropdite is a goddess of love much like paravati
Be prepared to be received like a heretic, ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing’ or a false preacher, but do it all the same, and ask Christ for strength. I believe you can do it.
❤ Awesome! Thank you! (Isaiah 26:19) ESV Your dead shall live; their bodies shall rise. You who dwell in the dust, awake and sing for joy! For your dew is a dew of light, and the earth will give birth to the dead. God is amazing 👏
It's been awhile since you posted or is this a repost? In any event, glad to see you posting content again. Almost all churches have been deceived by the hell doctrine. Thank you for bringing the true message of Jesus Christ!
brother We Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Right and that eternal torment punishment is not true Because Many Christian Hold the view of eternal conscous torment and calls ùniversalism a heritic May Our Beliefs in Universal Salvation is True and Correct and may the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with Us Always
Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist
this content is so important... the devil has the world believing that the God of the Bible describes how the creator of all mankind will torment the vast vast majority of all people forever and forever in a burning hell .. to His Glory and praise. You are an inspiration to many dear servant of the Lord ... to go teach others of God's true true great victory... to save all. Praise the mercyful Lord who endures forever... who revealed His heart in the magnificent person of His only son the Lord Jesus Christ.
aion is eternity according to research of the Infernalist, so if its eternal then punishment is for eternity but We dont know if ECT is the Right Then What I Believe isthat most early church fathers dont believe hellfire is eternity but for Purging and Cleansing, Gods Character He is Love and Mercy and Grace and He does Not Cast people forever though He caused afflection His Loving Kindness towards us Endures Forever ( lamentations 3:31-32, Psalms 30:5)
@@michaelm.7814 I would like to point out that mentioning God killing everyone, including animals, to prove your ideology is a weak argument. It could give non-believers a reason to attack Christianity and ridicule God. It's best to avoid using such arguments. Punishment serves the purpose of correcting bad behavior. Eternal punishment, on the other hand, is meaningless as it cannot correct someone's behavior. As for justice, if you sin against God or someone else, it is their right to forgive you or not. If you sin against others, they will most likely forgive you after you have suffered enough, and they see that the suffering you imposed on them was not endless. This is justice. If you sin against God, it is His right to forgive you or not. While I am unsure if there is a sin against Him that leads to eternal suffering, our understanding of God is that He is merciful and forgiving. It is most likely that He will forgive you.
@@michaelm.7814 You are right that God sent the flood to destroy the wicked, but you are wrong to think that this means they were eternally lost. The Bible says that God did not leave the spirits of those who died in prison, but that he preached to them through Christ (1 Peter 3:18-20, 4:6). This shows that God did not give up on them, but gave them another chance to hear the gospel and repent. God’s love and mercy are greater than his wrath and judgment. He does not desire anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9). The flood was not the end of their story, but a part of their journey towards salvation.
Will you please consider doing a video on Paul (Romans 5-18-19)? Talbott really opened my eyes to this verse. To paraphrase, he states that Koine Greek functions much like English, in that the first "all" in a compound sentence (or thought) will determine the second "all". Koine Greek doesn't have punctuations, but in order to have a coherent statement, the definition of the first use of "all" must determine the second use of "all", especially in a thought/sentence of parallel structure. Broken down in it's parallel structure, Romans 5:18-19 looks like this: 1) Consequently then / thus also 2) by the offense of one / by the righteousness of one 3) judgement came upon / the free gift came upon 4) all men / all men 5) to condemnation / to justification 6) For as by / so by 7) one man's offense / the obedience of one 8) the many were made / shall the many be made 9) sinners / righteous Whatever the scope of the first "all" is (whatever that definition might be) it has to be carried over to the second part of the thought/sentence in order for it to remain coherent. The definition of the first "all" is every single person that has ever lived, as Adam is the progenitor of the human race. Paul echos this again in 1 Corinthians 15:22. 1) For even as / thus also 2) in Adam / in Christ 3) all are dying / shall all be made alive. Who is dying in Adam? Everyone. This is the same "all" that shall be made alive. If I said, "I invited all of family to a bbq, and they all came". What is the scope of the first "all"? Is it my softball team? Is it my coworkers? Of course not. The scope of the first use of "all" determines the second. If I mean anything other than my family, then my sentence is illogical, random, and incoherent. So when I read Roman 5:18-19 and 1 Corinthians 15:22, it appears that Paul is laying out the relational status between God and all of mankind. I think he did this 3 times. Once in Romans 5:18, again in Roman 5:19, and again in 1 Corinthians 15:22.
Son of Man in the Russian-language Bible is "Man-like Son." The essence of the Evangel, the Gospel, tells me that I can be like Him. He was tempted in all points as we are, yet without sin, and this too can be our hope and our development. This only comes by personal revelation.
Great teaching my friend. God will save all mankind through this glorious gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ! If there are any fellow believers who receive this truth and who live in the San Diego, CA area, please let me know. I would love to get together and have fellowship!
Regarding your reference to the narrow and wide gate, yes, I agree with you. There were MANY gates that went into the SAME city. It makes no grammatical sense to infer that he's saying "enter into this place by the narrow gate, but enter into another different place by the wide gate"... That would need an entirely different sentence structure.
neither gate is referring to a city in my view. The narrow gate leads to life and represents the gate you enter if you died while abiding in Christ - you enter the afterlife by the narrow gate and experience His life in paradise with Him - which is upper Hades/the bosom of Abraham in the realm of the dead where the just dead await the first resurrection. The unrighteous dead enter the afterlife and go through the broad gate that leads to destruction. This destruction begins with a long stay in Sheol/lower Hades/hell in the realm of the dead as they await the second resurrection and Great White Throne of judgement event wherein they are thrown into the Lake of Fire for purging and correction. Only after all of these events come to pass does the New Jerusalem city descend from the sky and its gates never shut and the nations enter and received healing from the leaves of the tree which is the saints. So entering the city does not happen straight away for either party when they first die. To suggest the broad gate opens up and you just walk into a heavenly city denies all punishment and apokatastasis universalism does not teach there is no punishment at all for the rebels. It teaches there is punishment but that punishment is finite and is corrective and that it is like a refiners crucible.
One of the things to consider with the narrow and wide gate. The nation of Israel was the specific audience of this truth. They were about to go into the tribulation. Rome was about to demolish them. They knew the prophecies. They were commanded to follow Christ closely. They were to be witnesses.
Mat 7:13-14 Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Apprehending this after a life time of believing lies was not only an absolute lifting of yoke and falling of chains but now reading the Word from this divine perspective is like reading it afresh. The Fathers plan and accomplishment of it becomes clear in most all of scripture. I will say to reach this apprehension doesn't come from within a man. It is a revelation from above and not a choice from a human faculty. For with man it is not possible. But with God ALL things are!!! Just in the same way we were born in the flesh through Adam which was NOT a choice. We must be born again in the Spirit through Christ which also is NOT a choice, but a revelation. Belief comes AFTER this revelation of salavtion,, repentance come after. Not the other ear around that religious christianity has taught. To assume that salvation comes based on our choice, our brief, our merits is evidence of us being our own god. Just in the same way I don't like to claim myself a 'christian' due to the adulteration of its doctrine and the meaning of the name that it has grown into. I also don't like to claim myself a universalist for the same reason. Claiming yourself a Christian to non christian closes their ears to the message you relay. Claiming yourself a universalist closes the ears of those that claim Christianity to the truth of what The Father and Jesus accomplished without our assistance. We failed in the garden and we failed in the law. God's original plan of Jesus ABSOLUTE Sovereignty and Lordship reigns supreme!! He who has ears let him hear.
Shalom Peace be to you. Thank you for your response. If it's not too much of a stress, we would like to bless you: The Word is not the scriptures. It is a most common mistake and woefully places many in darkness. The Word is The Holy Spirit, The One and only Lord Jesus. The Word speaks through a revived spirit in ways of the heart. The scriptures are there to help, inspired by The Word, for proof and reproof the given sanctifications by God in our lives. God bless. Amen.
Thank you for this video. I agree with you about universalism. It is the Divine Will for all creation to be saved. The Divine Will cannot be stopped, human sin cannon stop God. I cannot however, agree with you about all the interpretations of passages you give. I agree strongly with you about John 12:31-32.
Johnny Ray we have to keep in mind that all scriptures are given specifically to the Priesthood (saints) and not to everybody. Hebrews 6:4 shows that some of the Priesthood will be disqualified from being a priest of the Lord, and may be judged with the sinner and the ungodly to be reconciled at a later time, but eventually all will be eating from the tree of life.
I always encourage people to not focus on this like it's a critical church doctrine. In other words, don't part ways with your Christian brothers and sisters simply because they don't yet have this understanding. They understand Christ's commandment to love others.
I have studied the salvation of all to the point that I would require clear refutation that God doesn't want all to be saved, didn't have a plan to save all, and that He didn't set that plan in motion. Asking me to accept the scriptures that declare the success and eventual salvation of all, according to His desire and will, as coincidental is ridiculous.
When I analyze the core principles of the Bible the only thing I ever had a problem with is Hell. It's the easiest concept to understand, but every Christian I have ever talk to try to justify it. I think it's just because their belief is too strong. I'm not religious atm. I actually just heard about this idea because I ran into a universal salvationist during a debate and when he told me hell didn't exist and everyone went to heaven I was pretty baffled because it aligned with everything I could feel in my heart so to say.
Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist
Absolutely love this channel! I'm a Christian and I have always suspected that the nature of hell as preached by the church wasn't consistent with the Biblical view that God is love! I need help understanding one thing though: I fully believe that Jesus paid the price for ALL of mankind's sins, saint and sinner alike, when He went to the cross. He reconciled all of us to God, so why is the Lake of Fire necessary? If we are reconciled to God and ultimately ALL of creation will be restored, why is refinement necessary if the price for our disobedience has already been paid? Just curious, I have been wrestling with that.
God is just so there must be a punishment. Otherwise, there would be no reason to follow what the Bible says. Might as well just do whatever you want.😊
@@AllInForYah God is just, not cruel. If He allows eternal conscious torment, He is cruel. If He uses the Lake of Fire to punish with the intent to correct and ultimately restore, then that falls in line with Him being both loving AND just.
@@AllInForYah Although temporary and meant for correction, the Lake of Fire is still an excruciating experience. That alone is enough to make me want to avoid it.
👉Acts 3:20-21 20And he will send you Jesus, the Messiah, the chosen one for you. 21 For he must remain in heaven until the restoration[a] of ALL things has taken place,[b]fulfilling everything that God said long ago through his holy prophets. The Passion Translation Footnote: [a]Acts 3:21…Apokatastasis is a medical term that means “restoration of perfect health.
So are we disciplined in heaven, or here? Because I've suffered so much and I believe in Jesus Christ but I really need love when I die. Can't take anymore persecution and pain
If you die while in Christ, enduring faithfully to the end - which few do, then no, you will not be disciplined in the next life which will be in paradise/upper hades/sheol/abraham's bosom under the earth in the realm of the dead where you will await the first resurrection of the dead during the 7 year period. If you die backslidden, lukewarm, He will vomit you out of His mouth and ask why you bother to call Him Lord Lord while not doing what He commands of you. In such case you will be separated from the sheep and declared a goat and put amongst the unbelievers in Sheol/lower Hades under the earth in the realm of the dead where the unjust dead stay. There you will be disciplined, regretting what you did to end up there and not able to have any enjoyment and there you will be for at least 1,000 years awaiting the second resurrection of the dead at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth. You will at that point be resurrected with the rest of the unjust dead and cast into the Lake of Fire for correction and purging. Only then will you finally be brought to humility and surrender and enter into His rest. Now Jesus did preach to the souls that disobeyed in the days of Noah when his body was in the cave and so it is possible he will do this again at some future point and that there will be possibility to repent while in Hades at the preaching there. However I would not bank on this and the Bible does not make this clear as to whether it will be available. It comes off to me more as a one time special event when Jesus did this.
the one thing kinda holding me back from believing in universalism is all the mentions of perishing & destruction please make a video on this to help me 😫
The wages of sin is death, not forever torture in fire, look here destruction is a prelude to restoration with God, and everything is just, righteous, Good, and loving, that He does, I have this verse to show you something that will help, Ezekiel 16:53 But I will restore Sodom and her daughters from captivity, as well as Samaria and her daughters. And I will restore you along with them. So we see that word Aion they even used for the (eternal) destruction of sodom can not mean forever! Because He restores sodom, God is never flawed and makes no mistakes, He cannot contradict Himself.
You must remember , Jesus commanded those who would follow Him that they must lose (geek word - apollumi, means lose, lost, perish) you life ( greek word - psyche - means soul/ life) for His sake if they want to save (Greek word - sozo- means to preserve to made well or whole) their life. This command was in context of judging ourselves through His word . Plucking out an eye, cutting off a hand, spiritually speaking . This is far preferable to having our whole life ( spiritually speaking) thrown into Gehenna judgement at once when our whole soul (psche) will be lost because it was built on lies. However, make no mistake, the way to life, for everyone, is by perishing first.
@@jeffsikes4246 I rather enjoyed your perspective and read it several times. I think this is what being "born again" means. We have the lost/parished/destroyed prodigal son, the lost/parished/destroyed coin, and the parable where Jesus will actively look for the lost/parished/destroyed sheep. In all three cases, that which is lost/parished/destroyed does not involve finality, but rather serves as a bridge to being found/saved/redeemed.
*Psalms 147:3* ❤️🩹🩸 *”He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.”* ♥️ *ALL SOULS MATTER* ♥️ *You can KNOW for sure you are going to heaven!* 1 John 5:13 KJB *Jesus did it ALL and paid it ALL with His Blood, because we couldn’t without going to hell forever. False (works) gospels seek to exalt a sinner’s ability to save themselves, which is impossible, while the true gospel of our salvation exalts the Lord Jesus Christ alone and His shed Blood (Romans 3:25 KJB).* *Romans 4:5* *”But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”* *Galatians 2:21* *”I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”* *Romans 1:16a* *”For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;”* *Ephesians 1:13* “In whom *ye also trusted,* after that *ye heard* the word of truth, *the gospel* of your salvation: in whom also after that *ye believed,* *ye were sealed* with that holy Spirit of promise,” *THE GOSPEL* *1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJB* 15 Moreover, brethren, *I declare unto you the gospel* which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that *CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS* according to the scriptures; 4 And that *HE WAS BURIED* , and that *HE ROSE AGAIN* the third day according to the scriptures: *THE SIMPLICITY OF SALVATION: BELIEVE (TRUST) THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED-SHEDDING HIS BLOOD AS THE PAYMENT FOR ALL YOUR SINS, HE WAS BURIED & ROSE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY* on *YOUR behalf.* They very moment you *believe,* you will *receive* the *free gift* of salvation *instantly* and *irreversibly.* To be *born again* means to be *saved* ♥️ John 10:28 “And I give unto them eternal life; and *they shall never perish,* neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” *Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB* *”For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.“* *A CLEAR-CUT PRESENTATION OF THE GOSPEL BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED:* ua-cam.com/video/xsqVaoYpnko/v-deo.html *The Author Signed His Work | Psalm 44:4 - SUPERNATURAL NUMERICS of the King James Bible* *THAT PROVES GOD IS THE AUTHOR* m.ua-cam.com/video/fKS8-xrMKII/v-deo.html *Repentance* is *a change of mind* *When you change your mind about the way of salvation to believing (trusting) in Jesus Christ as your only way to Heaven, you have repented. Though it is natural to think that you can earn his way to Heaven by good works, you cannot. When you understand that you are a sinner and cannot save yourself, and instead trust in Jesus Christ as your only means of salvation, you have repented.* *Romans 11:29* *”For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”* *GOD BLESS* 🙏🏼
I have question I am doing a little study on this just following your teachings . I have Youngs concordance I am very new to this so not fully conversant. I have come to Mat 13:42 and it seems different from the O. T .crucible. I hope I am wrong but in Mathew it is written here kaminos and is says that they will be cast into the furnace of fire. Please tell me that I am wrong i put a lot of faith in your teachings Blessing to you for the work you do
Hey Bruce! I linked a sermon of mine that I preached at my church a while back on the weeds. Maybe this will be of help to you in your journey. Blessings
This explains much, but I still have questions. For example, if Matt 7:13 says, "broad is the way that leads to destruction," what is meant by the word, "destruction?" Destruction and refinement are two different concepts.
Yes, but that destruction precedes salvation. See the parable of the prodigal son. Which gate did the son go through? It says he was “dead” and “lost”. Look up “lost” in the Greek (apollumi) it means destroyed. Same exact word as “destroy” in this verse: Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to *destroy* both soul and body in hell.
WHICH COMES FIRST From Isaiah 61 “The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me…” - to bind up the brokenhearted - to proclaim liberty to the captives - opening of the prison to them that are bound - to comfort all that mourn - to give unto them beauty for ashes - the oil of joy for mourning - the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness I ask you, in each of the above, which came first? broken hearted or binding up? captive or liberty? prison or opening the prison? mourning or comfort? ashes or beauty? mourning or oil of joy? spirit of heaviness or garment of praise? The bad stuff all came before the good stuff. Is that bad stuff just an accident? Bad luck? Or “is there evil in the city and the Lord hath not done it”? So what about this? Which of these two comes first? “To proclaim - the acceptable year of the LORD, and - the day of vengeance of our God;” The day of vengeance comes first bringing captivity, ashes and mourning… unless we manage to enter the narrow gate. “for many, I tell you, will SEEK to enter and will not BE ABLE.” (not be strong enough). “To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. And they shall build the *old* *wastes* they shall raise up the former desolations.” old wastes olam wastes aionion wastes LXX “eternal” wastes Looks like the wastes and desolations come first. So the destruction of the wide gate can precede salvation.
great video. I wonder though, what is the universalist answer to the question to blasphemy of the holy spirit? that seems pretty permanent- and what about Satan- will he ultimately be restored?
The doctrine of Universal Restoration, Apokatastasis in Greek, is the belief that all of creation is restored by Christ over the course of the ages, which would include Satan. Although not all of those church fathers went that far. And in the original Greek Jesus didn't say people will "never" be forgiven for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That's a doctrinal imposition in translation. He said they will "not" be forgiven, in this age, or the age to come. Which is to say, if you do this here, there, or anywhere, you will be punished. This after explaining that all sins and blasphemy will be forgiven in the age to come. But nothing about that indicates punishment is endless. Jesus gave that warning to the religious leaders who just witnessed miracles from Jesus and attributed them to Satan, demonstrating and extreme level of obstinacy. I suspect it is that obstinacy that requires serious discipline.
It does not seem permanent it seems “not forgiven”. Read Lamentations 3. It says their sin was “not forgiven” and they paid for their sin. It wasn’t permanent though. Forgive and you shall be forgiven. Forgive not and you shall not be forgiven.
So much of what you say makes a lot of sense but my concern is that words that we normally associate with their meaning like "destruction" no longer mean what we thought they meant, if then the destruction is reversed should it really have been called destruction in the first place? (but I guess all things are possible with God). In Matthew 7:19 Jesus talks about trees that don't bear fruit being chopped down and cast into the fire, it is difficult not to see a tree that is being burnt not turning to ash. I appreciate they are allegorical but the point of destruction still remain. I will continue to study and listen to your other videos.
Ref. to Matthew 25:41, the word kolasis (G2851) is followed up by the word aiōnios (G0166), which means everlasting/never to cease/without end. To me this seems like an everlasting correction? Any input or comment on this? (I'm just curious, not here to stir up anything negative) God's peace be with you
Hello, I'm from Brazil. Sorry for my imperfect English. I'd like to suggest a video about Policarp, John disciple, because I've read he talked about the fire of eternal damnation.
Thank You! you did an amazing job for our God and savior, praise Him, at 3:50 you really made clear the furnace of fire, it's taken from the Old Testament and not just even one time, He restores all people, and does not torture people in fire forever, God Is Love
Thanks Michael! Quick question though. When you said "Fear God" that it actually means "fear no one else", did you mean fear no other person in this world or only fear (respect, revere) God? I understand that fear is probably a mistranslation but was just curious about your intended context of what you mentioned. Wish you put videos out more often! Happy holidays!
Hey Jason, I’m not Michael but I would like to take a try at your question. In the Old Testament, when people referred to “The Fear of The Lord” it meant having reverence and being awestruck by Him. When people are commanded to have “The Fear of The Lord” they are being told to not let themselves see God in a mundane way, don’t think of Himself as someone common or just anyone else. Think of the proverb “familiarity breeds contempt”. Basically, it’s a command against that. Think of what happened with Judas, he lost reverence and respect for Christ and that lead to sin. Also, we should not be afraid of God because that shows a lack of love and trust that He is our Father and won’t forsake us (1 John 4:18, Romans 8:15, 2 Timothy 1:7, John 14:27) When Jesus told us to fear God, He meant it in the Old Testament sense and how a child “fears” his fathers discipline. The child is not scared of his dad and knows his father will always love him, but he recognizes that being scolded by dad is not fun, it’s the same with God. However, if we are chastised by God, this proves His Love for us as His true children (Hebrews 12:5-7, Job 5:17-18, Psalm 94:12, Deuteronomy 8:5, Revelation 3:19, 1 Corinthians 11:32). That’s why Jesus told us to not be afraid of any man but “fear” only God because being chastised and scolded by a Perfect Heavenly Father is not pleasurable or fun, but it’s necessary for our perfection.
@@anjeluriel4457 Thank you for your insight. I was already familiar with the idea that fear was simply another way of saying (what you said) reverence/respect, etc, and in no way FEAR God in the literal sense for the precise reasons you included in your examples from Scripture, which were excellent by the way! I was more specifically interested in the context in which Michael stated toward the end of his presentation. I agree that he was saying to fear (revere and respect God) and to fear (revere and respect) no one else, at least in the profound way that we should with God. By any means, I've believed in the salvation of all in full since around 2006 but suspected it to be true since I was a child (at least it was known to me instinctively, even if I couldn't prove it!). Cheers:)
@@jasonegeland1446 Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist
@@anjeluriel4457 I prefer rotherham's translation of yare/yirah. Reverence. I mean it saves a whole work around explaining the fear of the LORD/Yahweh. Just like with kolasis and aionios.
The Christmas insert at the end is definitely a trigger for me. It's not very common for anyone I know who celebrates Christmas to believe in the salvation of all. Unless, of course, they're still believing in the Trinity and how Jesus was actually God who never truly experienced death. Then I understand the sentiment.
There is a facebook group "The Total Victory of Christ" I post to now and then, but someone else is moderating the group for me. My daughter was just encouraging me to expand into other social media platforms. On my list of things to do.
In the passage from Zachariah, before the verse you quote it says two thirds will be struck down and perish and one third will be in the fire (to be refined presumably). So, what about the two-thirds who perish? Doesn’t that show everyone is not saved? How is that not contrary to Universal Salvation? I ask because one thing anti Universalists accuse us of is only reading part of the texts and ignoring texts that talk clearly distinguish between those who perish and those who are saved. Thanks. Keep up the good work.
What do you say about the verse where he said we will be persecuted for the truth ? That’s where I get confused because it is good news that we will all be saved.
I am on a learning path about universalism. One of my biggest hangups is, what did Jesus accomplish on the cross? If people will one day be punished for their sin in the afterlife , then what did Jesus accomplish for them?
Jesus paid for everyone's sins on the cross. While all are to be saved, none would be saved without Christ's death on the Cross. Universalism doesn't teach that Christ's death was not necessary.
Sure, I could draw this out from the King James text. Most of our popular bible translations today are merely updated decedents of the KJV. But the Apostles wrote in Koine Greek, and what that says it what really matters.
My favorite is Liddell/Scott. Link to the word in question: www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=ko/lasis You can find photographic archives of these lexicons online. Google Search: "Greek lexicon archive.org". I do have such copies. But biblehub, and other bible software, will automatically link you to popular Greek and Hebrew lexicons based on the bible verse, which is easier if you don't at least know the Greek alphabet to look those words up.
I'm happy I found your channel. I have a question: For those who hold to universal reconciliation, what did Jesus accomplish on the cross? I am aware of atonement theology (Jesus satisfied God's wrath in our place on the cross), and I am somewhat aware of the Christus Victor theology. Is it one of those theologies? Both? Something different?
Hi Jack. There are several fractions of Christian Universalism. Some believe hell doesn't exist at all. I fall into the camp that "hell/Gehenna" does exist, but is limited in duration (universal reconciliation). In my opinion, both views are claiming Christus Victor. We do not believe in a partial Messiah. When I read Romans 5:18-19, it appears that Paul is laying out the relational status between God and man. Man's sins are due to Adam. Man is justified and considered righteous due to Christ. We read in 4 separate texts that every knee will bow and every tongue confess. The term "confess" doesn't mean to admit a wrongdoing. It means to celebrate and give praise, especially as it pertains to Revelation. In Revelation we are actually told what we will all confess. CUs usually define "aion" as "an age" instead of "eternal", unless God is the noun being modified. God adds a weight to "aion" because God is not limited time. We believe aion has been mistranslated in most commercial Bibles. It doesn't make sense in English to say "forever and ever" or "forever more". In English, the term "forever" defies pluralization. A better translation is an age, age of ages, or ages of the ages. We claim Koine Greek has a word that always means forever (aidios), but the authors did not use this word to describe punishment. Further, we claim the word for punishment (kolasis) implies correction. The authors had a word for vendictive punishment (timoria), but this word is not used to describe man's punishment in the afterlife. Add the two concepts together and I would define it as "age-abiding correction". It gets confusing, because if aion can mean "eternal" and "an age", then aion is its own antonym. If not defined correctly, one could end up interpreting aion as the complete opposite of what the author intended. Young's Literal is a word for word translation where aion is almost always defined as an age or age-abiding. Regardless, the scope of God is always eternal, as God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. I hope this helps. May God bless you on your search for truth.
The Bible says the iniquities of us all were placed upon Him and by His stripes we are healed. So there was a atonement made in a ceremonial way on the cross. It also symbolized our need to be crucified with Christ loving not our own lives unto death. We must no longer live but Christ live in us to be able to claim we are alive in Christ. His death also caused Him to gain the keys to death and Hades and caused Him to obtain the name above all names. His death paved a way back to the Father and made a way for us to have our sins taken away and our consciences sprinkled by His blood. I confess this is all somewhat mysterious or at least some aspects of this I do not fully understand. Obviously it set the perfect example of selfless sacrifice that God modeled for us to follow after. It also demonstrated God's love for us perfectly in a way nothing else could. It was the greatest achievement of all achievements is clear. It certainly triggers something powerful and emotional in the heart of God and men alike to be certain. We can say that it is the only mechanism by which our sins could truly be taken away at the very least on a symbolic and ceremonial level in the sight of God and in our own consciences. It was atoning for this reason. It was a necessary model that had to be displayed for us to know what it truly is to love God and your neighbor above even your own life. It was the ultimate act of selflessness that we had to see. I would say that it was the only thing that could redeem mankind in general as a whole in the eyes of the Father - to have one man that through victory on the cross redeemed all men as far as what a man can be and what a man should be and why men are worth redeeming. One man had to do it right to make a way for all men to come back to the Father or else it would just look like man was not worth creating at all with all the failures of men in general. He proved the "human experiment" was not a utter failure in a sense - although we know that God foreknew it was not a failure for God also foreknew Christ's death on the cross from the beginning. It was largely the thing that made the whole of creation of man worth it overall and was the turning point for us to come back from our fall. As far as your statement that Jesus satisfied God's wrath in our place, I think that statement is suspect and inaccurate. After all, God is planning to pour out His wrath on the whole earth in the 7 year period. His wrath is far from satisfied then. His wrath and fiery indignation will also be poured out in the age to come. So no, it is not satisfied. What was satisfied is His principle that in order for forgiveness: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. --- this principle is somewhat mysterious to me and points to Jesus death on the cross. But why this is the only way there can be forgiveness of sins is a bit a mystery for me so far. In any case, I don't see any reason why any type of theology relating to the meaning of the cross is incompatible with universalism. Any variant on atonement or what have you seems like it could fit into universalism which is only stating that the punishment of the age to come is finite and corrective in purpose.
@@jackshadow325 Yes, every theologian in the entire country knows what the 7 year period is, every church in the entire country teaches about it, every discussion of the catching up in the sky of the church includes it. The Bible discusses and defines it thoroughly old testament and new testament. Google is your friend sir.
@Sharon-jp2wm I would say that includes anyone as Jesus says anyone who has lusted has committed adultery (I.e. pretty much every man who’s ever existed). God is a consuming fire according to the author of Hebrews. Anything that is not of God is consumed and anything that is of God remains. Paul says everyone’s works will be tested and what is hay, wood, and stubble will be burned away, however, what is gold or silver will remain thereby some will be saved but only as going through fire (1 Cor. 3:15). Hopefully this imagery helps. This is very rare to find taught in Protestant churches, however, it IS present in scripture and used in several places. This was widely taught as well in early, primitive Christianity. So, yes the old man as Paul says it along with all its fruits (I.e. all sin) will be burned up, yet all that is of God and God’s fruits shall remain. This has helped me. Perhaps it will help you. 😊
I would be curious to hear a universalist interpretation of the parable of the vine (John 15:1-8) Cutting off a branch may be helpful for the tree but it certainly wouldn't be helpful for the branch
I'll explain it for you. The point of the parable is that apart from Christ we can do nothing, essentially useless. But the destruction of the useless branch is useful as you can kindle a fire with it. Of course Paul clarifies this branch metaphor is related to God's covenant with Israel. Romans 11:11-24. Christ is speaking to the people of Israel. But Paul is clear on this: "Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious." Rom. 11:11 Also, Paul specifically says "all Israel will be saved" - Rom. 11:26:27
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Oh ok, Thanks! That passage in Romans makes a lot of sense as a universalist interpretation where the branches can become grafted in again.
I have a question. According to my Strong's Concordance Page 50 in the Greek translations, item 2851, the primary definition is 'penal infliction - punishment, torment'. I am new to universal salvation and have been trying to carefully examine both sides of this issue. Can you help me understand how you came up with 'correction' as the primary definition. Thank you.
A concordance and a lexicon is different. A lexicon is like a dictionary of all possible meanings. A concordance isnt usually as exhaustive as a lexicon. Hope this helps.
Very interesting stuff. Christian Universalism would be the ONLY form of Christianity I would subscribe if I come back. BTW, I do want to say that the verses speaking of Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven seem to be talking about NOW.. God's Kingdom, God's way of doing things here and now. So many people interpret that as some future event or next life. I think that's what gets so many people confused.
@@sonOfTheL1vingGod Ok, well Christian Gnosticism is certainly one view that people take from the Bible. But what I said can for sure be believed by every day Christians.
@@profitglen the error is in your last two sentences. Yes the kingdom of God is here now in a spiritual sense but, the physical is yet to come as well.
The most major issue with the idea of most of the NT stuff applying to now is that physical death was introduced by Adam's sin, and christ had to die, and ressurect physically to atone for it. All of the promises to restoration are towards what was lost when Adam. Sinned, which was a deathless sinless world. If you try to interpret most of the NT promises to mean what we have on earth right now, you end up creating the issue that physical death, and suffering, and sin all obviously still exist. So then you might try to reinterpret it to mean that christ only came to die for absolution of some kind of "spiritual" death. But if you say that it contradicts why christ would have to die, and ressurect physically in order absolve what is abarently just a soley spiritual matter. Moreover it contradicts what genesis says about what sin actually did, which was bring physical death into existence. You end up making christs sacrifice, and ressurection moot, which ends up getting rid of any point of Christianity to begin with.
Hello,, I have a friend who's been wanting to read the bible. I've shown them your videos and as a result, they feel skeptical on reading popular English translations. Which translation do you personally recommend? Thank you and God bless
Again, Daniel 7:13-14 referes to the remnant (It always refers to those who will remain after the unjust are annihilated). This is made perfectly clear in Isaiah 45:20: "The survivors of the nations" (a remnant).
Well, according to the biblical text this period of disciplinary correction extends though the "ages", so likely won't see them for a very long time for cases like that.
Universalism was very prolific during the first five centuries of Christianity, and there was significant controversy over that question. The affirmative view was eventually condemned by Roman emperor Justinian in the sixth century. Of course that was just the politics of the day.
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838may I ask, what is your opinion on these verses, Matthew 25:46 "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” 2 Thessalonians 1:9 "They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might," The implication of the first seems very clear that those who wind up in hell will be there for eternal punishment as it blatantly says which is contrasted to the eternality of heaven and the true life it brings. The second verse seems to describe hell as eternal destruction, seemingly describing that this destruction will not ever truly end,
This is the first time I'm hearing of the issues with translation in this way - and of course I already know there are plenty of other. translation issues that lead to misunderstanding of the original message. M question is - does the Bible teach anywhere if the correction happens here on earth (because it really does seem to happen a lot once we do something harmful, it comes right back), or does the Bible talk mostly about the correction completed at some point in time after the judgement? Hope my question makes sense.
I try to answer questions, and the short answer is correction happens here on earth, during the intermediate state before the judgment, and for some will continue after the judgment. The presentation: "Is Purgatory biblical" you might find helpful. ua-cam.com/video/ixrMITQXm5A/v-deo.htmlsi=TLfOkMm9yM1Y6sr5
i love your videos - however, i think you need to start using a literal greek translation for your scripture references. All the verses that you referenced that claim that the "kingdom shall have no end" are inconsistent - in 1 cor. 15, it describes Christ's kingdom coming to end, when he submits the kingdom to God, and God becomes "all in all". Even the new Earth and New Jerusalem come to an end, when Christ submits all to God.
How do you suppose that? The last thing that occurs in revelation on the timeline it gives us is everything being restored in the new heavens, and new earth. Your supposition also contradicts the idea of us having eternal life as well. Which is kinda the whole thing of scripture.
I believe that the concept of universalism, while appealing in its desire for ultimate reconciliation, raises important questions about the nature of free will and divine justice. If individuals freely choose to reject God as the source of goodness and make their own preferences the standard for goodness, or suffering and pleasure, it's crucial that their autonomy is respected, even if it leads to their own separation from God. Coercing them into salvation through suffering or time would undermine the very essence of free will. Furthermore, the philosophical concept of the is-ought gap highlights the subjective nature of moral claims. Goodness cannot be established solely through factual statements about the world, as there exists a gap between what is and what ought to be. Without recognizing God's authority as the source of goodness, individuals who reject God lack a basis for aligning their choices with divine principles. Therefore, while universalists may argue that individuals would naturally choose goodness if they understood it, the rejection of God's authority challenges this assumption, emphasizing the role of belief systems and authority in shaping moral perspectives and decisions.
First you need to remember the prophecy is: "For it is written, "'As I live,' says the Lord, 'to me every knee will bow. Every tongue will confess to God.'" And the word "confess" is the Greek word "ἐξομολογέω". It means "to acknowledge openly and joyfully" (Thayer's Greek Lexicon) Remember, Christ is the King of Kings, and in a Kingdom we do things the king's way. And he's decreed the salvation of all mankind. Sin has consequences and every time we sin those consequences simply find you. Christ has made a way for everyone to come home, and eventually everyone does.
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Seems like you're just admitting that God is going to force everybody to bow their knee to him like some kind of cosmic rapist. If he forces someone through time or overrides their free will, then God is violating their free will. This explanation hasn't removed this consequence; instead, you're affirming the consequence. I can't accept a cosmic rapist over the true God who is perfectly good.
@@jourdan4am I didn't say that at all, I already corrected you on that assumption. Again, the prophecy is everyone does this of their own free will, openly and joyfully. Nothing about angels dragging people in with chains and hot pokers and forcing them to confess Jesus as Lord. It's more like a child that finally grows up after learning life's lessons the hard way.
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Just because something is done openly and joyfully doesn't mean that this action was done freely. A good analogy would be deceiving a woman into thinking that you're super rich and you're able to fool her into thinking that you're handsome because you have magic powers. She too will sleep with you openly and joyfully, but still, because you deceived her, you violated her free will and you raped her. So effectively, the scripture that you gave me is non-consequential in disproving that the god of universalism is a cosmic rapist.
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Just because something is done openly and joyfully doesn't mean that this action was done freely. A good analogy would be deceiving a woman into thinking that you're super rich and you're able to fool her into thinking that you're handsome because you have magic powers. She too will sleep with you openly and joyfully, but still, because you deceived her, you violated her free will and you abused her. So effectively, the scripture that you gave me is non-consequential in disproving that the god of universalism is a cosmic abuser.
A True Saviour is a Saviour for All !!
Especially those who believe because they will actually be saved.
Clement of Alexandria in the early 2nd century said of God “How is He Lord and Savior if he is not Lord and Savior of all?”
Well said Clement… Well said. 😊
@@ABC123jd So which do you think Jesus is? A liar or a failure? No, wait, you think yourself righteous in your offering of ‘filthy rags’.
I've been struggling with alot of things in my personal life here lately but this video warms my heart brother. It was like after I was baptized this summer my walk just got harder. I thank God for this video.
Because Satan (meaning our enemy/adversary) will pursue you much harder because he is losing you and you are gaining Christ. It's not easy being Christian, if it were everybody would be one 😂 but people prefer their darkness of sin rather then the light of righteousness. Shalom Shalom brother
trials are meant to perfect us and perfect our obedience. Embrace and rejoice in them as long as you are remaining in Christ through them that is, for if you do endure them faithfully, there is great reward and in them you develop in character, perseverance, and hope. They are well worth the cost of admission. If you wish to share in His life you must share also in His suffering.
It got harder because it’s meant to refine and purify our hearts. ❤️
Pruning is medicine for the tree❤ I love this! Our Heavenly Father is such a good Father!
My earthly father is sad and hurtful....it is heartbreaking. I've spent my whole life waiting for his approval and blessing on my life~ I'm 42 and it has not come. 😢
My Heavenly Father has stepped in and blessed me, He accepts me fully, He guides me, He is proud of me ❤ I love Him so much!!
GOD Is no father of mine he's far removed from humans like those other gods
@@briankelly9347 so removed that he became a Human, was so poor his family could only afford the turtledoves sacrifice, and lived and worked with the outcasts until his ultimate goal came, to be sacrificed for your sake- to pay for sins like your sins- if thats not love, then we could never know what is
This is one of the best videos I have seen that a human made, about the understanding of the scriptures, and it is so important, Wow it’s so accurate and beautiful.
And you are also being deceived as well and if you would be in Hell you would be in the lake of fire forever and ever and you would have been tormented day and Night forever so don't get comfortable
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I'm so thankful for your channel. Great video.
Thank you Michael for this presentation. I have a three part presentation entitled "Be Reconciled to God" which will come out soon. Two episodes are complete and I am working on a third. Some of the same information is in it. Thank you for highlighting the love of God through His Son Jesus, "the savior of the whole world." You have made some excellent points in this presentation which never occurred to me.
brother We Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Right and that eternal torment punishment is not true Because Many Christian Hold the view of eternal conscous torment and calls ùniversalism a heritic May Our Beliefs in Universal Salvation is True and Correct and may the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with Us Always
@@johnkristofftimbal5053 well guess what? Eternal punishment is true because that's what the bible says so yeah it is eternal Hell fire and sulfur which is the second death so don't believe this bull crap video and believe what the bible really says
I've learned that hell is not eternal. Eternal punishment is just one punishment. Eternal punishing is repeating punishment.
Amazing! God is good. Jesus is our Savior for ALL!
Shalom my beloved brother Michael.
Peace, mercy and grace be with you and your loved ones.
Thank you for your patience and kindness towards those who are in need of the truth in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Giving people hope and joy through your messages.
Praise God!
May our heavenly Father Jesus bless you and all those who are in need of the victorious Gospel of Christ with peace and love.
Amen.
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Shalom Cris
Peace be to you.
Very much appreciated that you want to talk to us again.
Is it not written in their own scriptures?
Do not be afraid, we do not have a spirit of fear but of love, power and a sound mind.
Note:
Love = the spirit
Power is the body
Mind = the soul
(2 Timothy 1:7)
God is love, perfect love and casts out fear, the fear of punishment.
Go figure 😀
(1 John 4:18)
Colossians 1:19-20
(New American Standard Bible)
19 For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, 20 and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.
to reconcile *all things* to Himself.
Period.
God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
(1 john 1:5)
The Lord our God will save everyone, all in their own order.
No exceptions.
Have a great day knowing that our Lord loves us all equally.
Rejoice therefore.
Now Cris and all my other brothers and sisters, please go out into this world and treat another as you would like to be treated.
May God bless you all. Amen.
@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 brother Pray for me that I will Not Go in hell for Eternity, Most ECT believe Hell is eternity Hellfire is Eternity what they Believe Pray for me To Overcome my sins and Pray for me also that i will Not Go in Hellfire Let Us Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is true and correct and that ECT is not Let Us Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Correct what we Believe
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Shalom Cris
Peace be to you.
Again we thank you for your response.
As we have explained many times towards you, there is no hell.
That is a mumbo jumbo story to keep the masses sedated with fear.
For the obvious reasons of power, money and sex.
Any that preach a message of fear, your message as well, do not know God.
God is perfect love.
It's that simple.
So stop putting yourself in fear through messages of those who serve themselves instead of God.
Who are the anti-Christ.
Read our messages and my beloved brother Michael his uploads as many times as needed and ask The Lord your God to increase that what you need.
Thank you again for your extended time and patience, Cris.
May The Lord Jesus convince you of these things that your brothers in Christ say to you in truth.
Amen.
@@jesusisgodalmightyamen492 well.Godbless you too brother I am here from philippines Godbless you
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thank you brother, I Am Vince sarigumba my real name and Pray for me that I will Overcome my sins in my Life that i will be Set Free from sin and to Overcome this sins in me, for me Universalism and Conditional immortality annihilationism is what in my mind as now i dont anymore believed in eternal conscouis torment
I always enjoy your teachings brother!! Keep them coming! I look forward to when you make a new one!
Goats and sheep are both clean animals even under the laws of Moses! Nice presentation Bro!
@@user-kv5bh5ii6b it’s a spiritual application bro…humans are not dirty animals.
Godbless you are back
Thank you for this very enlightening lesson. I have been a missionary and believer in Universal Reconciliation for decades. I like the in depth, sincere and very scripturally convincing way you teach this truth. Your take on Matt 25 was very instructive. God bless you and your very important ministry.
Thank you so so much for all the work you do in digging for evidence "from the Bible" to refute this ungodly disgusting false doctrine. I thank and praise God for you also. It is not easy trying to reveal this lie to people because life long religious beliefs are very hard to shake.
Amazing as always. So glad to see you back at it. God bless you abundantly Michael.
Michael, can you please make more videos people really need to hear the truth
He’s a liar liar liar!
This was a brilliant presentation of Biblical support for universalism. I have already accepted philosophical arguments for why if God exists, universalism would be the case, and the problem of Hell as eternal conscious torture was so strong that it would pretty much stop any evidential discussion on Christianity. This is still the case if the discussion is had with a traditionalist Christian, but the problem of Hell quickly evaporates in a discussion with a universalist. Your case here convinced me that Christians can have a robust Biblical support for universalism, and that not only is this view tenable but perhaps the one that is more likely to be true. The problem of Hell clearly does not apply to the Christian universalist. I think that most, if not all Christians should adopt this view because it does not cost them anything - it is not unorthodox, it is not heretical, and it raises the prior probability of Christianity being true significantly by overcoming the logical problem of Hell. This could be an important move in discussions with nonbelievers like me.
Enjoyed your post Only a God of love who corrects via love is worthy of veneration.
@@johndalton1043 I think that the point of justice is to correct cases of injustice rather than to enact retribution. Needless to say, a loving deity would probably prefer this path as well. Consider the following case: A person steals some money from someone else. The thief is found and punished by having his hand cut off. Now, consider the same case but this time the thief is made to repay what they had stolen. What use is there for the wronged party to have the thief maimed? This does not correct the injustice that was done to them. And once they are repaid, what use is their for society in general to have the thief maimed, given that they could be rehabilitated to become productive a member of society? Retribution rarely serves any justice, and certainly does not do so better than wise correction. I find it preposterous to call someone good, just, wise and loving, and vengeful and lustful for retribution at the same time. It is not simply preposterous. It is incoherent.
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Jesus was given a similar scenario when the lady caught in adultery was thrown at His feet. Notice, He saves her BEFORE she calls him Lord. Thus, proactive salvation.
Does He condemn her? Not at all. He loved her enough to save her and correct her (sin no more).
I believe in a bigger Jesus than most fractions of westernized Christianity.
@@johndalton1043no the big God or The One Above All only has domain over Muslims, jews and Christians, aropdite is a goddess of love much like paravati
Always love when you pop back up on my feed!
God bless you. Thanks for the video. I wish I knew how to better share this message with my fellow Christian's.
Be prepared to be received like a heretic, ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing’ or a false preacher, but do it all the same, and ask Christ for strength. I believe you can do it.
So blessed to have been led to your channel.
❤ Awesome!
Thank you!
(Isaiah 26:19) ESV
Your dead shall live; their bodies shall rise. You who dwell in the dust, awake and sing for joy! For your dew is a dew of light, and the earth will give birth to the dead.
God is amazing 👏
Amém, all blessings 🙌 Brother! Keep going....hugs from Brazil 🇧🇷
So well done, researched, thought through, and produced. Jesus is the Savior of ALL!
I'm thrilled to see you back!
It's been awhile since you posted or is this a repost? In any event, glad to see you posting content again. Almost all churches have been deceived by the hell doctrine. Thank you for bringing the true message of Jesus Christ!
brother We Pray and Hope that Universal Salvation is True and Right and that eternal torment punishment is not true Because Many Christian Hold the view of eternal conscous torment and calls ùniversalism a heritic May Our Beliefs in Universal Salvation is True and Correct and may the Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with Us Always
Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist
@@johnkristofftimbal5053 do you believe John the Baptist was a false prophet?
this content is so important... the devil has the world believing that the God of the Bible describes how the creator of all mankind will torment the vast vast majority of all people forever and forever in a burning hell .. to His Glory and praise. You are an inspiration to many dear servant of the Lord ... to go teach others of God's true true great victory... to save all. Praise the mercyful Lord who endures forever... who revealed His heart in the magnificent person of His only son the Lord Jesus Christ.
This is a great video. It is exactly what I was looking for. Needed the Biblical basis spelled out persuasively.
Thank you for this. Brilliantly expounded.
Thank you for this enlightening, freeing and soul-refreshing message! Merry Christmas to you too!
He’s a liar!
aion is eternity according to research of the Infernalist, so if its eternal then punishment is for eternity but We dont know if ECT is the Right Then What I Believe isthat most early church fathers dont believe hellfire is eternity but for Purging and Cleansing, Gods Character He is Love and Mercy and Grace and He does Not Cast people forever though He caused afflection His Loving Kindness towards us Endures Forever ( lamentations 3:31-32, Psalms 30:5)
Christmas is pagan and leads to hellfire.
@@michaelm.7814 I would like to point out that mentioning God killing everyone, including animals, to prove your ideology is a weak argument. It could give non-believers a reason to attack Christianity and ridicule God. It's best to avoid using such arguments. Punishment serves the purpose of correcting bad behavior. Eternal punishment, on the other hand, is meaningless as it cannot correct someone's behavior. As for justice, if you sin against God or someone else, it is their right to forgive you or not. If you sin against others, they will most likely forgive you after you have suffered enough, and they see that the suffering you imposed on them was not endless. This is justice. If you sin against God, it is His right to forgive you or not. While I am unsure if there is a sin against Him that leads to eternal suffering, our understanding of God is that He is merciful and forgiving. It is most likely that He will forgive you.
@@michaelm.7814 You are right that God sent the flood to destroy the wicked, but you are wrong to think that this means they were eternally lost. The Bible says that God did not leave the spirits of those who died in prison, but that he preached to them through Christ (1 Peter 3:18-20, 4:6). This shows that God did not give up on them, but gave them another chance to hear the gospel and repent. God’s love and mercy are greater than his wrath and judgment. He does not desire anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9). The flood was not the end of their story, but a part of their journey towards salvation.
AMAZING Grace!!!
Will you please consider doing a video on Paul (Romans 5-18-19)? Talbott really opened my eyes to this verse. To paraphrase, he states that Koine Greek functions much like English, in that the first "all" in a compound sentence (or thought) will determine the second "all". Koine Greek doesn't have punctuations, but in order to have a coherent statement, the definition of the first use of "all" must determine the second use of "all", especially in a thought/sentence of parallel structure.
Broken down in it's parallel structure, Romans 5:18-19 looks like this:
1) Consequently then / thus also
2) by the offense of one / by the righteousness of one
3) judgement came upon / the free gift came upon
4) all men / all men
5) to condemnation / to justification
6) For as by / so by
7) one man's offense / the obedience of one
8) the many were made / shall the many be made
9) sinners / righteous
Whatever the scope of the first "all" is (whatever that definition might be) it has to be carried over to the second part of the thought/sentence in order for it to remain coherent. The definition of the first "all" is every single person that has ever lived, as Adam is the progenitor of the human race.
Paul echos this again in 1 Corinthians 15:22.
1) For even as / thus also
2) in Adam / in Christ
3) all are dying / shall all be made alive.
Who is dying in Adam? Everyone. This is the same "all" that shall be made alive.
If I said, "I invited all of family to a bbq, and they all came". What is the scope of the first "all"? Is it my softball team? Is it my coworkers? Of course not. The scope of the first use of "all" determines the second. If I mean anything other than my family, then my sentence is illogical, random, and incoherent.
So when I read Roman 5:18-19 and 1 Corinthians 15:22, it appears that Paul is laying out the relational status between God and all of mankind. I think he did this 3 times. Once in Romans 5:18, again in Roman 5:19, and again in 1 Corinthians 15:22.
Son of Man in the Russian-language Bible is "Man-like Son." The essence of the Evangel, the Gospel, tells me that I can be like Him. He was tempted in all points as we are, yet without sin, and this too can be our hope and our development. This only comes by personal revelation.
Incredible video! Thanks you for sharing your insight
I missed you so much!!! Amazing.
Well done, thank you!
thank you once again for your teachings it is surely good news, good job and good truth
Excellent teaching Thank You 😊
Post more often please
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God is Good! 🎉🙌✝🕊
Great teaching my friend. God will save all mankind through this glorious gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ!
If there are any fellow believers who receive this truth and who live in the San Diego, CA area, please let me know. I would love to get together and have fellowship!
❤❤so happy for the new video!! Thanks brotha
Regarding your reference to the narrow and wide gate, yes, I agree with you. There were MANY gates that went into the SAME city. It makes no grammatical sense to infer that he's saying "enter into this place by the narrow gate, but enter into another different place by the wide gate"... That would need an entirely different sentence structure.
The shortest path is always the best. Doesn’t mean the long way home won’t still take you - home
neither gate is referring to a city in my view. The narrow gate leads to life and represents the gate you enter if you died while abiding in Christ - you enter the afterlife by the narrow gate and experience His life in paradise with Him - which is upper Hades/the bosom of Abraham in the realm of the dead where the just dead await the first resurrection. The unrighteous dead enter the afterlife and go through the broad gate that leads to destruction. This destruction begins with a long stay in Sheol/lower Hades/hell in the realm of the dead as they await the second resurrection and Great White Throne of judgement event wherein they are thrown into the Lake of Fire for purging and correction. Only after all of these events come to pass does the New Jerusalem city descend from the sky and its gates never shut and the nations enter and received healing from the leaves of the tree which is the saints. So entering the city does not happen straight away for either party when they first die. To suggest the broad gate opens up and you just walk into a heavenly city denies all punishment and apokatastasis universalism does not teach there is no punishment at all for the rebels. It teaches there is punishment but that punishment is finite and is corrective and that it is like a refiners crucible.
One of the things to consider with the narrow and wide gate. The nation of Israel was the specific audience of this truth. They were about to go into the tribulation. Rome was about to demolish them. They knew the prophecies. They were commanded to follow Christ closely. They were to be witnesses.
This was beautiful. Thank you.
Mat 7:13-14
Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.
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Apprehending this after a life time of believing lies was not only an absolute lifting of yoke and falling of chains but now reading the Word from this divine perspective is like reading it afresh. The Fathers plan and accomplishment of it becomes clear in most all of scripture.
I will say to reach this apprehension doesn't come from within a man. It is a revelation from above and not a choice from a human faculty. For with man it is not possible. But with God ALL things are!!! Just in the same way we were born in the flesh through Adam which was NOT a choice. We must be born again in the Spirit through Christ which also is NOT a choice, but a revelation.
Belief comes AFTER this revelation of salavtion,, repentance come after. Not the other ear around that religious christianity has taught. To assume that salvation comes based on our choice, our brief, our merits is evidence of us being our own god.
Just in the same way I don't like to claim myself a 'christian' due to the adulteration of its doctrine and the meaning of the name that it has grown into. I also don't like to claim myself a universalist for the same reason. Claiming yourself a Christian to non christian closes their ears to the message you relay. Claiming yourself a universalist closes the ears of those that claim Christianity to the truth of what The Father and Jesus accomplished without our assistance.
We failed in the garden and we failed in the law. God's original plan of Jesus ABSOLUTE Sovereignty and Lordship reigns supreme!!
He who has ears let him hear.
Shalom
Peace be to you.
Thank you for your response.
If it's not too much of a stress, we would like to bless you:
The Word is not the scriptures.
It is a most common mistake and woefully places many in darkness.
The Word is The Holy Spirit, The One and only Lord Jesus.
The Word speaks through a revived spirit in ways of the heart.
The scriptures are there to help, inspired by The Word, for proof and reproof the given sanctifications by God in our lives.
God bless. Amen.
Thank you for this video. I agree with you about universalism. It is the Divine Will for all creation to be saved. The Divine Will cannot be stopped, human sin cannon stop God. I cannot however, agree with you about all the interpretations of passages you give. I agree strongly with you about John 12:31-32.
This was very helpful! Could you do a short video on Hebrews 6:1-4 and Hebrews 10:26?
Johnny Ray we have to keep in mind that all scriptures are given specifically to the Priesthood (saints) and not to everybody. Hebrews 6:4 shows that some of the Priesthood will be disqualified from being a priest of the Lord, and may be judged with the sinner and the ungodly to be reconciled at a later time, but eventually all will be eating from the tree of life.
@@rdaleyj1 um no, scripture is given to everyone who is a man of God. A man of God is anyone who believes the gospel.
Thank you Michael for this message of truth.
He’s LYING!!
NOPE, THAT'D BE YOU!
@@michaelj.frazee9043 I’m not lying. He is.
@@michaelj.frazee9043 this is literally AntiChrist and anti biblical. It’s satanic deception.
I believe Michaels smooth words is decieving people to hell.
This is the best one yet...KEEP EM COMIN!
I wish i could find a way to fellowship with other Christians in my city (Bloomington. Indiana) who believe in Universal Reconciliation.
I always encourage people to not focus on this like it's a critical church doctrine. In other words, don't part ways with your Christian brothers and sisters simply because they don't yet have this understanding. They understand Christ's commandment to love others.
Thank you. That is helpful.
I have studied the salvation of all to the point that I would require clear refutation that God doesn't want all to be saved, didn't have a plan to save all, and that He didn't set that plan in motion. Asking me to accept the scriptures that declare the success and eventual salvation of all, according to His desire and will, as coincidental is ridiculous.
When I analyze the core principles of the Bible the only thing I ever had a problem with is Hell. It's the easiest concept to understand, but every Christian I have ever talk to try to justify it. I think it's just because their belief is too strong. I'm not religious atm. I actually just heard about this idea because I ran into a universal salvationist during a debate and when he told me hell didn't exist and everyone went to heaven I was pretty baffled because it aligned with everything I could feel in my heart so to say.
Thanks so much for the scriptural evidence of Christian universalism. The truth is clearly understood.
excellent!!!!!
Absolutely love this
Awesome video. Thanks for the info.
Luke 3:6 and ALL flesh shall see the salvation of God.
Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist
Absolutely love this channel! I'm a Christian and I have always suspected that the nature of hell as preached by the church wasn't consistent with the Biblical view that God is love!
I need help understanding one thing though: I fully believe that Jesus paid the price for ALL of mankind's sins, saint and sinner alike, when He went to the cross. He reconciled all of us to God, so why is the Lake of Fire necessary? If we are reconciled to God and ultimately ALL of creation will be restored, why is refinement necessary if the price for our disobedience has already been paid? Just curious, I have been wrestling with that.
God is just so there must be a punishment. Otherwise, there would be no reason to follow what the Bible says. Might as well just do whatever you want.😊
@@AllInForYah God is just, not cruel. If He allows eternal conscious torment, He is cruel. If He uses the Lake of Fire to punish with the intent to correct and ultimately restore, then that falls in line with Him being both loving AND just.
@@AverageJoe87 I am not saying you are wrong but there must be some form of punishment
@@AllInForYah Although temporary and meant for correction, the Lake of Fire is still an excruciating experience. That alone is enough to make me want to avoid it.
@@AverageJoe87 exactly
👉Acts 3:20-21
20And he will send you Jesus, the Messiah, the chosen one for you. 21 For he must remain in heaven until the restoration[a] of ALL things has taken place,[b]fulfilling everything that God said long ago through his holy prophets.
The Passion Translation Footnote:
[a]Acts 3:21…Apokatastasis is a medical term that means “restoration of perfect health.
Thank you so much!
So are we disciplined in heaven, or here? Because I've suffered so much and I believe in Jesus Christ but I really need love when I die. Can't take anymore persecution and pain
If you die while in Christ, enduring faithfully to the end - which few do, then no, you will not be disciplined in the next life which will be in paradise/upper hades/sheol/abraham's bosom under the earth in the realm of the dead where you will await the first resurrection of the dead during the 7 year period. If you die backslidden, lukewarm, He will vomit you out of His mouth and ask why you bother to call Him Lord Lord while not doing what He commands of you. In such case you will be separated from the sheep and declared a goat and put amongst the unbelievers in Sheol/lower Hades under the earth in the realm of the dead where the unjust dead stay. There you will be disciplined, regretting what you did to end up there and not able to have any enjoyment and there you will be for at least 1,000 years awaiting the second resurrection of the dead at the end of the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth. You will at that point be resurrected with the rest of the unjust dead and cast into the Lake of Fire for correction and purging. Only then will you finally be brought to humility and surrender and enter into His rest. Now Jesus did preach to the souls that disobeyed in the days of Noah when his body was in the cave and so it is possible he will do this again at some future point and that there will be possibility to repent while in Hades at the preaching there. However I would not bank on this and the Bible does not make this clear as to whether it will be available. It comes off to me more as a one time special event when Jesus did this.
the one thing kinda holding me back from believing in universalism is all the mentions of perishing & destruction please make a video on this to help me 😫
The wages of sin is death, not forever torture in fire, look here destruction is a prelude to restoration with God, and everything is just, righteous, Good, and loving, that He does, I have this verse to show you something that will help, Ezekiel 16:53
But I will restore Sodom and her daughters from captivity, as well as Samaria and her daughters. And I will restore you along with them.
So we see that word Aion they even used for the (eternal) destruction of sodom can not mean forever! Because He restores sodom, God is never flawed and makes no mistakes, He cannot contradict Himself.
Watch all his videos on this channel. That should answer your questions. God bless
You must remember , Jesus commanded those who would follow Him that they must lose (geek word - apollumi, means lose, lost, perish) you life ( greek word - psyche - means soul/ life) for His sake if they want to save (Greek word - sozo- means to preserve to made well or whole) their life. This command was in context of judging ourselves through His word . Plucking out an eye, cutting off a hand, spiritually speaking . This is far preferable to having our whole life ( spiritually speaking) thrown into Gehenna judgement at once when our whole soul (psche) will be lost because it was built on lies. However, make no mistake, the way to life, for everyone, is by perishing first.
@@jeffsikes4246 I rather enjoyed your perspective and read it several times. I think this is what being "born again" means.
We have the lost/parished/destroyed prodigal son, the lost/parished/destroyed coin, and the parable where Jesus will actively look for the lost/parished/destroyed sheep. In all three cases, that which is lost/parished/destroyed does not involve finality, but rather serves as a bridge to being found/saved/redeemed.
*Psalms 147:3* ❤️🩹🩸
*”He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.”*
♥️ *ALL SOULS MATTER* ♥️
*You can KNOW for sure you are going to heaven!*
1 John 5:13 KJB
*Jesus did it ALL and paid it ALL with His Blood, because we couldn’t without going to hell forever. False (works) gospels seek to exalt a sinner’s ability to save themselves, which is impossible, while the true gospel of our salvation exalts the Lord Jesus Christ alone and His shed Blood (Romans 3:25 KJB).*
*Romans 4:5*
*”But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”*
*Galatians 2:21*
*”I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”*
*Romans 1:16a*
*”For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;”*
*Ephesians 1:13*
“In whom *ye also trusted,* after that *ye heard* the word of truth, *the gospel* of your salvation: in whom also after that *ye believed,* *ye were sealed* with that holy Spirit of promise,”
*THE GOSPEL*
*1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJB*
15 Moreover, brethren, *I declare unto you the gospel* which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that *CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS* according to the scriptures;
4 And that *HE WAS BURIED* , and that *HE ROSE AGAIN* the third day according to the scriptures:
*THE SIMPLICITY OF SALVATION: BELIEVE (TRUST) THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED-SHEDDING HIS BLOOD AS THE PAYMENT FOR ALL YOUR SINS, HE WAS BURIED & ROSE AGAIN THE THIRD DAY* on *YOUR behalf.* They very moment you *believe,* you will *receive* the *free gift* of salvation *instantly* and *irreversibly.*
To be *born again* means to be *saved* ♥️
John 10:28
“And I give unto them eternal life; and
*they shall never perish,* neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.”
*Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB*
*”For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.“*
*A CLEAR-CUT PRESENTATION OF THE GOSPEL BY WHICH WE ARE SAVED:*
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*The Author Signed His Work | Psalm 44:4 - SUPERNATURAL NUMERICS of the King James Bible* *THAT PROVES GOD IS THE AUTHOR*
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*Repentance* is *a change of mind*
*When you change your mind about the way of salvation to believing (trusting) in Jesus Christ as your only way to Heaven, you have repented. Though it is natural to think that you can earn his way to Heaven by good works, you cannot. When you understand that you are a sinner and cannot save yourself, and instead trust in Jesus Christ as your only means of salvation, you have repented.*
*Romans 11:29*
*”For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”*
*GOD BLESS* 🙏🏼
The Good News is actually good news.
I have question I am doing a little study on this just following your teachings . I have Youngs concordance I am very new to this so not fully conversant. I have come to Mat 13:42 and it seems different from the O. T .crucible. I hope I am wrong but in Mathew it is written here kaminos and is says that they will be cast into the furnace of fire. Please tell me that I am wrong i put a lot of faith in your teachings Blessing to you for the work you do
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Hey Bruce! I linked a sermon of mine that I preached at my church a while back on the weeds. Maybe this will be of help to you in your journey. Blessings
@@parkerpruett4579 Thanks so much I shall look at it5 a little latwer but anything will be a help
Nice work my friend
This explains much, but I still have questions. For example, if Matt 7:13 says, "broad is the way that leads to destruction," what is meant by the word, "destruction?" Destruction and refinement are two different concepts.
Yes, but that destruction precedes salvation.
See the parable of the prodigal son. Which gate did the son go through?
It says he was “dead” and “lost”. Look up “lost” in the Greek (apollumi) it means destroyed. Same exact word as “destroy” in this verse:
Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to *destroy* both soul and body in hell.
WHICH COMES FIRST
From Isaiah 61
“The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me…”
- to bind up the brokenhearted
- to proclaim liberty to the captives
- opening of the prison to them that are bound
- to comfort all that mourn
- to give unto them beauty for ashes
- the oil of joy for mourning
- the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness
I ask you, in each of the above, which came first? broken hearted or binding up? captive or liberty? prison or opening the prison? mourning or comfort? ashes or beauty? mourning or oil of joy? spirit of heaviness or garment of praise?
The bad stuff all came before the good stuff. Is that bad stuff just an accident? Bad luck? Or “is there evil in the city and the Lord hath not done it”?
So what about this? Which of these two comes first?
“To proclaim
- the acceptable year of the LORD, and
- the day of vengeance of our God;”
The day of vengeance comes first bringing captivity, ashes and mourning… unless we manage to enter the narrow gate. “for many, I tell you, will SEEK to enter and will not BE ABLE.” (not be strong enough).
“To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. And they shall build the *old* *wastes* they shall raise up the former desolations.”
old wastes
olam wastes
aionion wastes LXX
“eternal” wastes
Looks like the wastes and desolations come first.
So the destruction of the wide gate can precede salvation.
great video. I wonder though, what is the universalist answer to the question to blasphemy of the holy spirit? that seems pretty permanent- and what about Satan- will he ultimately be restored?
The doctrine of Universal Restoration, Apokatastasis in Greek, is the belief that all of creation is restored by Christ over the course of the ages, which would include Satan. Although not all of those church fathers went that far.
And in the original Greek Jesus didn't say people will "never" be forgiven for blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That's a doctrinal imposition in translation. He said they will "not" be forgiven, in this age, or the age to come. Which is to say, if you do this here, there, or anywhere, you will be punished. This after explaining that all sins and blasphemy will be forgiven in the age to come.
But nothing about that indicates punishment is endless. Jesus gave that warning to the religious leaders who just witnessed miracles from Jesus and attributed them to Satan, demonstrating and extreme level of obstinacy.
I suspect it is that obstinacy that requires serious discipline.
It does not seem permanent it seems “not forgiven”.
Read Lamentations 3. It says their sin was “not forgiven” and they paid for their sin. It wasn’t permanent though.
Forgive and you shall be forgiven. Forgive not and you shall not be forgiven.
So much of what you say makes a lot of sense but my concern is that words that we normally associate with their meaning like "destruction" no longer mean what we thought they meant, if then the destruction is reversed should it really have been called destruction in the first place? (but I guess all things are possible with God). In Matthew 7:19 Jesus talks about trees that don't bear fruit being chopped down and cast into the fire, it is difficult not to see a tree that is being burnt not turning to ash. I appreciate they are allegorical but the point of destruction still remain. I will continue to study and listen to your other videos.
Ref. to Matthew 25:41, the word kolasis (G2851) is followed up by the word aiōnios (G0166), which means everlasting/never to cease/without end.
To me this seems like an everlasting correction? Any input or comment on this?
(I'm just curious, not here to stir up anything negative)
God's peace be with you
Hello, I'm from Brazil. Sorry for my imperfect English. I'd like to suggest a video about Policarp, John disciple, because I've read he talked about the fire of eternal damnation.
Thank You! you did an amazing job for our God and savior, praise Him, at 3:50 you really made clear the furnace of fire, it's taken from the Old Testament and not just even one time, He restores all people, and does not torture people in fire forever, God Is Love
Then why does Jesus say that there is a Lake of Fire and Brimstone with eternal torture throught the New Testament
Oooooh😀 Can you do the END TIMES next. Request.
Thanks Michael!
Quick question though. When you said
"Fear God" that it actually means "fear no one else", did you mean fear no other person in this world or only fear (respect, revere) God? I understand that fear is probably a mistranslation but was just curious about your intended context of what you mentioned. Wish you put videos out more often! Happy holidays!
Hey Jason, I’m not Michael but I would like to take a try at your question.
In the Old Testament, when people referred to “The Fear of The Lord” it meant having reverence and being awestruck by Him. When people are commanded to have “The Fear of The Lord” they are being told to not let themselves see God in a mundane way, don’t think of Himself as someone common or just anyone else. Think of the proverb “familiarity breeds contempt”. Basically, it’s a command against that.
Think of what happened with Judas, he lost reverence and respect for Christ and that lead to sin. Also, we should not be afraid of God because that shows a lack of love and trust that He is our Father and won’t forsake us (1 John 4:18, Romans 8:15, 2 Timothy 1:7, John 14:27)
When Jesus told us to fear God, He meant it in the Old Testament sense and how a child “fears” his fathers discipline. The child is not scared of his dad and knows his father will always love him, but he recognizes that being scolded by dad is not fun, it’s the same with God.
However, if we are chastised by God, this proves His Love for us as His true children (Hebrews 12:5-7, Job 5:17-18, Psalm 94:12, Deuteronomy 8:5, Revelation 3:19, 1 Corinthians 11:32).
That’s why Jesus told us to not be afraid of any man but “fear” only God because being chastised and scolded by a Perfect Heavenly Father is not pleasurable or fun, but it’s necessary for our perfection.
@@anjeluriel4457 Thank you for your insight. I was already familiar with the idea that fear was simply another way of saying (what you said) reverence/respect, etc, and in no way FEAR God in the literal sense for the precise reasons you included in your examples from Scripture, which were excellent by the way! I was more specifically interested in the context in which Michael stated toward the end of his presentation. I agree that he was saying to fear (revere and respect God) and to fear (revere and respect) no one else, at least in the profound way that we should with God. By any means, I've believed in the salvation of all in full since around 2006 but suspected it to be true since I was a child (at least it was known to me instinctively, even if I couldn't prove it!).
Cheers:)
@@jasonegeland1446 Let Us Pray to Jesus by His Grace and Mercy that Universal Salvation is True and Right and Correct We Hope for Universal Salvation to all Even those Who are in Hellfire We Pray and Hope that Eternal Conscious Torment is False and pagan , We Pray that Universal Salvation is True or Annihilationism Ceased to Exist
@@anjeluriel4457 I prefer rotherham's translation of yare/yirah. Reverence. I mean it saves a whole work around explaining the fear of the LORD/Yahweh. Just like with kolasis and aionios.
Primarily fear God and not man, but the idea can be extended fear in general. This teaching dives into that ua-cam.com/video/7o6CCeOhKYk/v-deo.html
The Christmas insert at the end is definitely a trigger for me. It's not very common for anyone I know who celebrates Christmas to believe in the salvation of all. Unless, of course, they're still believing in the Trinity and how Jesus was actually God who never truly experienced death. Then I understand the sentiment.
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Do you have other social media for the public to watch or follow or do you only teach on UA-cam?
There is a facebook group "The Total Victory of Christ" I post to now and then, but someone else is moderating the group for me. My daughter was just encouraging me to expand into other social media platforms. On my list of things to do.
In the passage from Zachariah, before the verse you quote it says two thirds will be struck down and perish and one third will be in the fire (to be refined presumably).
So, what about the two-thirds who perish? Doesn’t that show everyone is not saved? How is that not contrary to Universal Salvation?
I ask because one thing anti Universalists accuse us of is only reading part of the texts and ignoring texts that talk clearly distinguish between those who perish and those who are saved.
Thanks. Keep up the good work.
What kind of Bible should I buy?
I would recommend something easy to read, like NIV, but also get a literal translation like the Emphasized Bible by Rotherham for more accurate study.
Amen!
What do you say about the verse where he said we will be persecuted for the truth ? That’s where I get confused because it is good news that we will all be saved.
Amen❤
Hallelujah!
I am on a learning path about universalism. One of my biggest hangups is, what did Jesus accomplish on the cross? If people will one day be punished for their sin in the afterlife , then what did Jesus accomplish for them?
Jesus paid for everyone's sins on the cross. While all are to be saved, none would be saved without Christ's death on the Cross. Universalism doesn't teach that Christ's death was not necessary.
@@alwaysadawg6488Who did Jesus pay?
@@DIBBY40God the father thru the holy ghost
Can you make this with the King James Bible only?
Sure, I could draw this out from the King James text. Most of our popular bible translations today are merely updated decedents of the KJV. But the Apostles wrote in Koine Greek, and what that says it what really matters.
Total victory of christ is Jesus’s second coming be like a jump scare ?😅 or is gonna be peaceful and joyful ?
Where’s the best place to find these lexicons?I’ve seen some online but I don’t know how good they are any ideas? Thank you.
My favorite is Liddell/Scott. Link to the word in question: www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=ko/lasis
You can find photographic archives of these lexicons online. Google Search: "Greek lexicon archive.org". I do have such copies.
But biblehub, and other bible software, will automatically link you to popular Greek and Hebrew lexicons based on the bible verse, which is easier if you don't at least know the Greek alphabet to look those words up.
I'm happy I found your channel. I have a question: For those who hold to universal reconciliation, what did Jesus accomplish on the cross? I am aware of atonement theology (Jesus satisfied God's wrath in our place on the cross), and I am somewhat aware of the Christus Victor theology. Is it one of those theologies? Both? Something different?
Hi Jack. There are several fractions of Christian Universalism. Some believe hell doesn't exist at all. I fall into the camp that "hell/Gehenna" does exist, but is limited in duration (universal reconciliation). In my opinion, both views are claiming Christus Victor. We do not believe in a partial Messiah.
When I read Romans 5:18-19, it appears that Paul is laying out the relational status between God and man. Man's sins are due to Adam. Man is justified and considered righteous due to Christ.
We read in 4 separate texts that every knee will bow and every tongue confess. The term "confess" doesn't mean to admit a wrongdoing. It means to celebrate and give praise, especially as it pertains to Revelation. In Revelation we are actually told what we will all confess.
CUs usually define "aion" as "an age" instead of "eternal", unless God is the noun being modified. God adds a weight to "aion" because God is not limited time.
We believe aion has been mistranslated in most commercial Bibles. It doesn't make sense in English to say "forever and ever" or "forever more". In English, the term "forever" defies pluralization. A better translation is an age, age of ages, or ages of the ages. We claim Koine Greek has a word that always means forever (aidios), but the authors did not use this word to describe punishment. Further, we claim the word for punishment (kolasis) implies correction. The authors had a word for vendictive punishment (timoria), but this word is not used to describe man's punishment in the afterlife. Add the two concepts together and I would define it as "age-abiding correction".
It gets confusing, because if aion can mean "eternal" and "an age", then aion is its own antonym. If not defined correctly, one could end up interpreting aion as the complete opposite of what the author intended. Young's Literal is a word for word translation where aion is almost always defined as an age or age-abiding. Regardless, the scope of God is always eternal, as God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
I hope this helps. May God bless you on your search for truth.
The Bible says the iniquities of us all were placed upon Him and by His stripes we are healed. So there was a atonement made in a ceremonial way on the cross. It also symbolized our need to be crucified with Christ loving not our own lives unto death. We must no longer live but Christ live in us to be able to claim we are alive in Christ. His death also caused Him to gain the keys to death and Hades and caused Him to obtain the name above all names. His death paved a way back to the Father and made a way for us to have our sins taken away and our consciences sprinkled by His blood. I confess this is all somewhat mysterious or at least some aspects of this I do not fully understand. Obviously it set the perfect example of selfless sacrifice that God modeled for us to follow after. It also demonstrated God's love for us perfectly in a way nothing else could. It was the greatest achievement of all achievements is clear. It certainly triggers something powerful and emotional in the heart of God and men alike to be certain. We can say that it is the only mechanism by which our sins could truly be taken away at the very least on a symbolic and ceremonial level in the sight of God and in our own consciences. It was atoning for this reason. It was a necessary model that had to be displayed for us to know what it truly is to love God and your neighbor above even your own life. It was the ultimate act of selflessness that we had to see. I would say that it was the only thing that could redeem mankind in general as a whole in the eyes of the Father - to have one man that through victory on the cross redeemed all men as far as what a man can be and what a man should be and why men are worth redeeming. One man had to do it right to make a way for all men to come back to the Father or else it would just look like man was not worth creating at all with all the failures of men in general. He proved the "human experiment" was not a utter failure in a sense - although we know that God foreknew it was not a failure for God also foreknew Christ's death on the cross from the beginning. It was largely the thing that made the whole of creation of man worth it overall and was the turning point for us to come back from our fall.
As far as your statement that Jesus satisfied God's wrath in our place, I think that statement is suspect and inaccurate. After all, God is planning to pour out His wrath on the whole earth in the 7 year period. His wrath is far from satisfied then. His wrath and fiery indignation will also be poured out in the age to come. So no, it is not satisfied. What was satisfied is His principle that in order for forgiveness: Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. --- this principle is somewhat mysterious to me and points to Jesus death on the cross. But why this is the only way there can be forgiveness of sins is a bit a mystery for me so far. In any case, I don't see any reason why any type of theology relating to the meaning of the cross is incompatible with universalism. Any variant on atonement or what have you seems like it could fit into universalism which is only stating that the punishment of the age to come is finite and corrective in purpose.
@@artbyrobot1 7 year period?
@@jackshadow325 Yes, every theologian in the entire country knows what the 7 year period is, every church in the entire country teaches about it, every discussion of the catching up in the sky of the church includes it. The Bible discusses and defines it thoroughly old testament and new testament. Google is your friend sir.
@@artbyrobot1 What country? America? I think only America still believes in pre-mil dispensationalism. I’m not in America.
What about him saying all those who commit sexual sin shall not enter the kingdom of heaven
@Sharon-jp2wm I would say that includes anyone as Jesus says anyone who has lusted has committed adultery (I.e. pretty much every man who’s ever existed). God is a consuming fire according to the author of Hebrews. Anything that is not of God is consumed and anything that is of God remains.
Paul says everyone’s works will be tested and what is hay, wood, and stubble will be burned away, however, what is gold or silver will remain thereby some will be saved but only as going through fire (1 Cor. 3:15).
Hopefully this imagery helps. This is very rare to find taught in Protestant churches, however, it IS present in scripture and used in several places. This was widely taught as well in early, primitive Christianity.
So, yes the old man as Paul says it along with all its fruits (I.e. all sin) will be burned up, yet all that is of God and God’s fruits shall remain.
This has helped me. Perhaps it will help you. 😊
I would be curious to hear a universalist interpretation of the parable of the vine (John 15:1-8)
Cutting off a branch may be helpful for the tree but it certainly wouldn't be helpful for the branch
I'll explain it for you. The point of the parable is that apart from Christ we can do nothing, essentially useless. But the destruction of the useless branch is useful as you can kindle a fire with it. Of course Paul clarifies this branch metaphor is related to God's covenant with Israel. Romans 11:11-24.
Christ is speaking to the people of Israel. But Paul is clear on this: "Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious." Rom. 11:11
Also, Paul specifically says "all Israel will be saved" - Rom. 11:26:27
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Oh ok, Thanks! That passage in Romans makes a lot of sense as a universalist interpretation where the branches can become grafted in again.
I have a question. According to my Strong's Concordance Page 50 in the Greek translations, item 2851, the primary definition is 'penal infliction - punishment, torment'. I am new to universal salvation and have been trying to carefully examine both sides of this issue. Can you help me understand how you came up with 'correction' as the primary definition. Thank you.
A concordance and a lexicon is different. A lexicon is like a dictionary of all possible meanings. A concordance isnt usually as exhaustive as a lexicon.
Hope this helps.
12:59 age-abiding correction....what does that mean, Michael?
The heathen will be punished like the little spiritual toddlers that they are. Straight to time out 😂
So then what about the unforgivable Sin
There's a video about this on his channel...
Very interesting stuff. Christian Universalism would be the ONLY form of Christianity I would subscribe if I come back.
BTW, I do want to say that the verses speaking of Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven seem to be talking about NOW.. God's Kingdom, God's way of doing things here and now. So many people interpret that as some future event or next life. I think that's what gets so many people confused.
no, this is a gnostic way of looking at it that the scriptures inherently condemns. Jesus Christ will literally and physically reign on earth.
@@sonOfTheL1vingGod Ok, well Christian Gnosticism is certainly one view that people take from the Bible. But what I said can for sure be believed by every day Christians.
@@profitglen the error is in your last two sentences. Yes the kingdom of God is here now in a spiritual sense but, the physical is yet to come as well.
The most major issue with the idea of most of the NT stuff applying to now is that physical death was introduced by Adam's sin, and christ had to die, and ressurect physically to atone for it. All of the promises to restoration are towards what was lost when Adam. Sinned, which was a deathless sinless world. If you try to interpret most of the NT promises to mean what we have on earth right now, you end up creating the issue that physical death, and suffering, and sin all obviously still exist. So then you might try to reinterpret it to mean that christ only came to die for absolution of some kind of "spiritual" death. But if you say that it contradicts why christ would have to die, and ressurect physically in order absolve what is abarently just a soley spiritual matter. Moreover it contradicts what genesis says about what sin actually did, which was bring physical death into existence.
You end up making christs sacrifice, and ressurection moot, which ends up getting rid of any point of Christianity to begin with.
@@anthonypolonkay2681 interesting reply. I appreciate that!
Hello,, I have a friend who's been wanting to read the bible. I've shown them your videos and as a result, they feel skeptical on reading popular English translations. Which translation do you personally recommend? Thank you and God bless
Can I ask, is your friend Christian?
@@joshua2400 She has accepted Jesus as her savor (some what recently)
@@kjhgfdfghjkdrtyuiwewe do both you and her agree that Jesus is the only savior and Only way to salvation?
Is there a list of all the scriptures used? Blessings.....
Again, Daniel 7:13-14 referes to the remnant (It always refers to those who will remain after the unjust are annihilated).
This is made perfectly clear in Isaiah 45:20:
"The survivors of the nations" (a remnant).
What about the people who hate God and who torture other humans beings BUT who never repented? Like they didn’t want to change.
Well, according to the biblical text this period of disciplinary correction extends though the "ages", so likely won't see them for a very long time for cases like that.
A quick question, according to this theory, is Satan saved eventually?
Universalism was very prolific during the first five centuries of Christianity, and there was significant controversy over that question. The affirmative view was eventually condemned by Roman emperor Justinian in the sixth century. Of course that was just the politics of the day.
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838may I ask, what is your opinion on these verses, Matthew 25:46 "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
2 Thessalonians 1:9
"They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,"
The implication of the first seems very clear that those who wind up in hell will be there for eternal punishment as it blatantly says which is contrasted to the eternality of heaven and the true life it brings. The second verse seems to describe hell as eternal destruction, seemingly describing that this destruction will not ever truly end,
This is the first time I'm hearing of the issues with translation in this way - and of course I already know there are plenty of other. translation issues that lead to misunderstanding of the original message. M question is - does the Bible teach anywhere if the correction happens here on earth (because it really does seem to happen a lot once we do something harmful, it comes right back), or does the Bible talk mostly about the correction completed at some point in time after the judgement? Hope my question makes sense.
I try to answer questions, and the short answer is correction happens here on earth, during the intermediate state before the judgment, and for some will continue after the judgment. The presentation: "Is Purgatory biblical" you might find helpful. ua-cam.com/video/ixrMITQXm5A/v-deo.htmlsi=TLfOkMm9yM1Y6sr5
i love your videos - however, i think you need to start using a literal greek translation for your scripture references. All the verses that you referenced that claim that the "kingdom shall have no end" are inconsistent - in 1 cor. 15, it describes Christ's kingdom coming to end, when he submits the kingdom to God, and God becomes "all in all".
Even the new Earth and New Jerusalem come to an end, when Christ submits all to God.
How do you suppose that? The last thing that occurs in revelation on the timeline it gives us is everything being restored in the new heavens, and new earth. Your supposition also contradicts the idea of us having eternal life as well. Which is kinda the whole thing of scripture.
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I believe that the concept of universalism, while appealing in its desire for ultimate reconciliation, raises important questions about the nature of free will and divine justice. If individuals freely choose to reject God as the source of goodness and make their own preferences the standard for goodness, or suffering and pleasure, it's crucial that their autonomy is respected, even if it leads to their own separation from God. Coercing them into salvation through suffering or time would undermine the very essence of free will.
Furthermore, the philosophical concept of the is-ought gap highlights the subjective nature of moral claims. Goodness cannot be established solely through factual statements about the world, as there exists a gap between what is and what ought to be. Without recognizing God's authority as the source of goodness, individuals who reject God lack a basis for aligning their choices with divine principles. Therefore, while universalists may argue that individuals would naturally choose goodness if they understood it, the rejection of God's authority challenges this assumption, emphasizing the role of belief systems and authority in shaping moral perspectives and decisions.
First you need to remember the prophecy is: "For it is written, "'As I live,' says the Lord, 'to me every knee will bow. Every tongue will confess to God.'"
And the word "confess" is the Greek word "ἐξομολογέω". It means "to acknowledge openly and joyfully" (Thayer's Greek Lexicon)
Remember, Christ is the King of Kings, and in a Kingdom we do things the king's way. And he's decreed the salvation of all mankind. Sin has consequences and every time we sin those consequences simply find you. Christ has made a way for everyone to come home, and eventually everyone does.
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Seems like you're just admitting that God is going to force everybody to bow their knee to him like some kind of cosmic rapist. If he forces someone through time or overrides their free will, then God is violating their free will. This explanation hasn't removed this consequence; instead, you're affirming the consequence. I can't accept a cosmic rapist over the true God who is perfectly good.
@@jourdan4am I didn't say that at all, I already corrected you on that assumption. Again, the prophecy is everyone does this of their own free will, openly and joyfully. Nothing about angels dragging people in with chains and hot pokers and forcing them to confess Jesus as Lord. It's more like a child that finally grows up after learning life's lessons the hard way.
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Just because something is done openly and joyfully doesn't mean that this action was done freely. A good analogy would be deceiving a woman into thinking that you're super rich and you're able to fool her into thinking that you're handsome because you have magic powers. She too will sleep with you openly and joyfully, but still, because you deceived her, you violated her free will and you raped her. So effectively, the scripture that you gave me is non-consequential in disproving that the god of universalism is a cosmic rapist.
@@thetotalvictoryofchrist9838 Just because something is done openly and joyfully doesn't mean that this action was done freely. A good analogy would be deceiving a woman into thinking that you're super rich and you're able to fool her into thinking that you're handsome because you have magic powers. She too will sleep with you openly and joyfully, but still, because you deceived her, you violated her free will and you abused her. So effectively, the scripture that you gave me is non-consequential in disproving that the god of universalism is a cosmic abuser.
Amen