Split A GPU Between Multiple Computers - Proxmox LXC (Unprivileged)

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  • @Mitman1234
    @Mitman1234 7 місяців тому +41

    For anyone else struggling to determine which GPU is which, run `ls -l /dev/dri/by-path`, and cross reference the addresses in that output with the output of `lspci`, which will also list the full GPU name.

    • @massivebull
      @massivebull 4 місяці тому +1

      I've been rewatching the video twice trying to figure this out - your comment saved me a lot of headaches - thanks a lot !

    • @0mnislash79
      @0mnislash79 16 днів тому +2

      i dont have a dri folder :(

  • @stefanbondzulic8001
    @stefanbondzulic8001 7 місяців тому +38

    This is quickly becoming my favorite channel to watch :D Great stuff! Can't wait to see what you have for us next!

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +5

      Haha, thanks for the feedback. Next step is network shares on LXC. Then onto clusters on LXC with GPU shared.

    • @darthkielbasa
      @darthkielbasa 7 місяців тому

      The “eat like an American…” wall hanging got me. The content is secondary.

  • @Dragonpyro85
    @Dragonpyro85 День тому

    If you're deploying Jellyfin in a Portainer LXC on Proxmox then you will need to create a Custom Template the in Portainer WebUI and add the yaml contents to the Docker-Compose section. This will create the container and deploy in the Stack. From here, changes can be made to the docker-compose yaml and the container can be updated as necessary. I am still new to Linux, Docker, and Portainer so I am sure there is an easier way to do this but after having a difficult time of finding the yaml for Jellyfin in the LXC this is what worked for me. All other steps from the video worked like a charm!

  • @georgec2932
    @georgec2932 7 місяців тому +12

    Spent the last couple of weeks trying to achieve this myself and couldn't - had to stick with a privileged container. This worked perfectly first time, thank you Jim!

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +2

      Nice work! Enjoy the added security :)

  • @TheRealAaronJordison
    @TheRealAaronJordison 6 місяців тому +7

    I just used this guide to get hardware encoding working in an unprivileged Immich lxc container, through docker compose. ( After a lot of work) Thank you so much for your great and comprehensive guides.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  6 місяців тому

      Great stuff, well done ✅

  • @SamuelGarcia-oc9og
    @SamuelGarcia-oc9og 7 місяців тому +5

    Thank you. Your tutorials are some of the best, very well explained and functional.

  • @IsmaelLa
    @IsmaelLa 7 місяців тому +4

    My weekend project right here. I run unraid in a VM with some docker containers running in it. I want to move all containers outside the unraid VM. Now I can test this and also sharing the iGPU!!! Not straight put to a single VM. NICE!

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely, it's pretty huge being able to share the iGPU between LXCs

  • @markwiesemann5654
    @markwiesemann5654 7 місяців тому +1

    Came from the Selfhosted Newsletter a few days ago and I am loving it. Great video, and I will definetly try that as soon as I have time

  • @BromZlab
    @BromZlab 7 місяців тому +3

    Nice Jim 😀. You keep making great content👌🤌

  • @ff34jmr
    @ff34jmr 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video. I did a similar thing ages ago to passthrough a couple of printers to an lxc unprivileged cups printer server! Was a headache to figure everything out at the time hehehe

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      Ooh, that's a great use case. I like it.

  • @SB-qm5wg
    @SB-qm5wg 7 місяців тому +3

    Your github is a pot of gold. TY sir

  • @robertodepetro1996
    @robertodepetro1996 18 днів тому +1

    excellent video, thanks!

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  18 днів тому

      @@robertodepetro1996 thanks 👍

  • @happy9955
    @happy9955 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video of Proxmox outside.Thank you Sir!

  • @Spider210
    @Spider210 6 місяців тому +2

    Finally Subscribed to your channel! Thank YOU!

  • @nvmeku
    @nvmeku 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you for this tutorial. It works. just want to let you know, it works also with handbrake docker container, just in the compose file add GROUP_ID=107 in the environment section. intel qsv is detected!

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  3 місяці тому

      Awesome, thanks for letting me know

  • @pkt1213
    @pkt1213 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video. I am going to play with this this week so both Jellyfin and Plex have access to the GPU. Maybe other stuff eventually.

  • @drbyte2009
    @drbyte2009 7 місяців тому +2

    I really love your channel Jim. I learn(ed) a lot from you !!
    I would love to see how to get the low power encoding working 🙂

  • @jafandarcia
    @jafandarcia 3 місяці тому +1

    I struggled with an AMD igpu pass through with Jellyfin and you were very kind to help , in my case it did not work with a regular VM , but with this it was a breeze to setup Jellyfin with HW transcoding , the only hiccup was the lxc image of Debian 12 did not work , but Ubuntu did , latest proxmox fully updated , thanks again your walkthroughs are really helpful thanks !

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  3 місяці тому

      That's great, good job 👍

    • @codexclusiveNL
      @codexclusiveNL 3 місяці тому

      Could you help me out?

    • @jafandarcia
      @jafandarcia 3 місяці тому

      @@codexclusiveNLfollow the steps that Jim laid out, some films depending on the setup will work depending on the browser or device also, for me even the groups that Jim has in the video are the same , y setup is a beeliknk mini pc with an AMD 5650

  • @gamermerijn
    @gamermerijn 7 місяців тому +2

    Congrats, good stuff. You may want to check out how to run docker images as LXC containers, since they are OCI compliant. It would remove an abstraction layer, but instead of compose it would be set up with ansible.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +2

      Good suggestion, something I can check out later. Thanks

    • @RudyBleeker
      @RudyBleeker 23 дні тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage and @gamermerijn I was wondering about this as well. What's the added benefit of running Jellyfin in Docker when you can just install it in the LXC directly?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  23 дні тому

      @@RudyBleeker mainly security and density. VMs use a separate kernel to the host, especially good for internet facing containers. Furthermore, 1 backup of the VM and all of my containers are covered (albeit you can install docker in an LXC).

    • @RudyBleeker
      @RudyBleeker 23 дні тому

      @@Jims-Garage I know all about the difference between VMs and LXC. But in the video you installed Jellyfin in Docker, that Docker runs in LXC, on a bare metal Proxmox host, correct? There was no talk about VM's, or did I miss something?
      So I'm curious why you chose to install the Docker runtime in LXC and run Jellyfin through that, instead of installing the Jellyfin packages in the LXC directly using Jellyfin's official repos. Adding Docker into the mix just introduces another layer of (very minimal) overhead and complexity if you'd ask me.

  • @georgebobolas6363
    @georgebobolas6363 7 місяців тому +2

    Great Content! Would be nice if you elaborated more on the low power encoder in one of your next videos.

  • @autohmae
    @autohmae 7 місяців тому +2

    I also run my Kubernetes test env. in LXC on my laptop, makes a lot of sense.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      That's great. I'm hoping to do similar for GPU sharing.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage You've already figured out the hard part.
      13:34 in practice by the way it doesn't matter. As long as the host is newer or the same and you load any kernel modules you might need. Linux mostly adds new functionality, as Linus always says: "don't break user space". I was able to run Debian 2/Hamm LXC container on a modern Linux kernel aka Debian 12. Not like I've never done this before. I was running Linux containers before LXC existed, before I ever touched VMs. On Debian Woody with Linux-VServer.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      @@autohmae wow, that's impressive. Thanks for sharing

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae 7 місяців тому

      @@Jims-Garage well, it's supposed to work 🙂

  • @robertyboberty
    @robertyboberty 3 місяці тому +1

    Hardware passthrough to LXC is definitely something I want to explore. I have a few services running in an Alpine QEMU and the footprint is small but I would prefer to have one LXC per service

    • @robertyboberty
      @robertyboberty 3 місяці тому +1

      I started down the hardware passthrough rabbithole with CUPS. Network printing is another use case

  • @MarcMcMillin
    @MarcMcMillin 7 місяців тому +1

    This is great stuff! Thanks Jim :-)

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks. It's a really good feature of LXCs.

  • @sku2007
    @sku2007 7 місяців тому +1

    2:40 actually it's for some intel gpus possible to split between vms. but didn't do any benchmark on it and had no use, so i went for priviledged lxc at the time i was setting up mine. but now i'm considering redoing it unpriviledged, thanks for the video!

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      It was. Unfortunately it's now discontinued...

    • @sku2007
      @sku2007 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage right, there are lots of tiny differences on intel gpus. had it running with an 7700k about a year ago, i think this still would work today if the hw supports it (?)
      also played around with a DVA xpenology vm, unfortunately the 7700 igpu is too new for that

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      @@sku2007 my understanding is that you have to use sr-iov now.

    • @vitoswat
      @vitoswat 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@Jims-Garage as long as you have older GPU it works but it is quite limited. On mini PC with i5-10500T I was able to split iGpu into 2 GVT devices. Interesting part is that even if you assign vGPU to VMs you can still use real iGPU in LXCs. Of course the performance will suffer this way but in case of load like transcoding it is perfectly fine.
      I suggest you give it a try.

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 7 місяців тому +1

      There is a video where a passthrough nvidia GPU is split between vms.

  • @giorgis1731
    @giorgis1731 6 місяців тому +2

    this is way cool ! LXC all the way

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, it's a great tool to have.

  • @YannMetalhead
    @YannMetalhead 3 місяці тому +1

    Great tutorial.

  • @alexanderos8209
    @alexanderos8209 7 місяців тому +1

    I just discovered your series and it is amazing. I am Trying to do something similar on my homelab since a year ago but still failed. I already had some id maps in place for my mounts (more in my next comment on that video) but you essentially solved for me what I was struggeling and nearly given up.
    Now Jellyfin is HW rranscoding on my NUC Lab host and I am so happy with it :D
    One more thing that I am currently struggeling with - and you might have an idea / solution / future video:
    Docker swarm seems not to work inside an lxc container. Containers get deployed but are not accessible via the ingress network.
    Anyways thanks again I am looking forward to the new videos while watching the back catalog.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      Great work 👍
      Firstly, don't use the KVM image, use a standard cloud image (there's an issue). Let me know if that solves it.

    • @alexanderos8209
      @alexanderos8209 7 місяців тому

      @@Jims-Garage Thank you - I got it working on a debian 12 lxc container.
      Some of the IDs needed to be different but now it is merged with my lxc mounts and everything is working.
      If i now only could get docker swarm to work. (but this a known problem in LXC - works fine in VM).

  • @wusaby-ush
    @wusaby-ush 7 місяців тому +1

    I dont belive I see this, you are the best

  • @kterstal
    @kterstal 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent, thanks! Was able to get it working with the iGPU. Is the process the same for a NVIDIA GPU?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  2 місяці тому

      It should be, just change the mappings to suit. Thanks a lot for the donation!

  • @pr0jectSkyneT
    @pr0jectSkyneT 4 місяці тому +1

    I tested this out and Jellyfin worked great in a Proxmox LXC container also with Intel A380 passthrough. Can you please make a guide on how to get it running on Plex? I could not get Plex working with Hardware Acceleration for the life of me.

  • @scorpjitsu
    @scorpjitsu 7 місяців тому

    Do you make your own thumbnails? Yours are top tier!!!

  • @rudypieplenbosch6752
    @rudypieplenbosch6752 7 місяців тому +1

    Impressive, I wonder if its as simple with an AMD igpu, with an xcp-ng hypervisor, probably not. But it is amazing to share an igpu like this, multiple graphic cards is rediculous. Seems like this solves gpu sharing in general 🤔

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      It should work on Proxmox with an iGPU in almost exactly the same way, I've no experience with xcp-ng though... SR-IOV is also another way to do it but consumer devices don't typically support it.

  • @PODLine
    @PODLine 7 місяців тому +2

    What you say 6 minutes into the video about the /etc/subgid file is wrong. These entries are not mappings but ranges of gid's. It's a start gid and a count.
    I'm still trying to get my head dialled in on the lxc.idmap entries in the .conf file. Getting closer. Thanks for the video.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      The subguid is a moot point if you're running as root and can be skipped

    • @PODLine
      @PODLine 7 місяців тому

      @@Jims-Garage, what about adding root to the video and render groups on the host (@12:30)...is that necessary? This is a weird step to me.

  • @zag1964
    @zag1964 7 місяців тому +2

    You do have an error in your github notes. After carefully following the directions and c/p from your notes I thought it odd when no /etc/subguid could be found. Still I proceeded but the container wouldn't start. After looking around a bit I noticed that /etc/subguid should have been /etc/subgid. After fixing the issue the container started just fine. Regardless, great video and you gained a new sub. Thanks..

    • @mnejmantowicz
      @mnejmantowicz 7 місяців тому +1

      OMG! Thank you for that! I've been pulling my hair out.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      Thanks! I will fix this now.

  • @Szala89r
    @Szala89r Місяць тому +1

    Hi @Jim's Garage, have you managed to run X11 with nvidia/intel acceleration on it? Something that would allow to run e.g. steam games?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому

      @@Szala89r I haven't as I don't have a card to test it with unfortunately. My understanding is that you wouldn't have graphical output though, just GPU accelerated workloads

  • @nicholaushilliard6811
    @nicholaushilliard6811 7 місяців тому +1

    Ty for sharing your knowledge
    Two questions if you may know the answer?
    1. Can Proxmox install Nvidia linux drivers over Nouveau and still share the video card?
    2. If one adds a newer headless GPU like the Nvidia L4, can you use this as a secondary or even primary video card in a VM or CT?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      Yes to both. Follow the same procedure and mount the additional GPU.

  • @DudeItsDallyBoy
    @DudeItsDallyBoy 13 днів тому

    only issue with this is mounting NFS shares. I have yet to find a way to mount an NFS share into a unprivileged LXC then recreate the container onto another node that has a GPU.

  • @ashtouareg3330
    @ashtouareg3330 3 дні тому

    Hello Jim, thanks for your instructions . I really appreciate you sharing your valuvable knowledge, I did follow your instructions, but the sharing does not work at the end with a permission error message, and whenever I do upadte the configuration file for the LXC with the line (inside my /etc/pve/lxc/1xx.conf) lxc.mount.entry%3A /dev/dri/renderD128 dev/dri/renderD128 none bind,optional,create=file , any help please

  • @olefjord85
    @olefjord85 7 місяців тому +1

    Really awesome! But how is this working on the technical level without GPU virtualization at all?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      The LXC is sharing access with the host's GPU

  • @SiggyT827
    @SiggyT827 16 днів тому

    At 16:03 is the group for renderD129 supposed to be _ssh? It's the same on my system and in Emby I'm getting a permission denied error, so I'm wondering if those 2 are related

  • @weysinchathamazight9956
    @weysinchathamazight9956 4 дні тому +1

    Not working for me the Proxmox LXC - Docker is not taking the IGPU no activtiy on the engines while play diffrent content :( i do not know what i am doning wrong.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  4 дні тому

      @@weysinchathamazight9956 probably the groups, I used a dGPU, change it to match iGPU

  • @motominis
    @motominis 2 місяці тому

    Hey tried to follow exactly, but I get stuck after editing the config file. Afterwards when I spin back up the container, I get nothing on console. So as you mention it might be a permission issue, but I think I did everything!

  • @mercian8051
    @mercian8051 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video! How does this work with nvidia drivers with a GPU? Does the driver need to be installed on the host and then in each LXC?

  • @imorganmarshall
    @imorganmarshall Місяць тому +1

    Seems like a powerful feature. How do you do this in the UI?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому

      @@imorganmarshall I don't think you have access to all of the necessary options (might be wrong)

    • @Scott-f9
      @Scott-f9 Місяць тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage 8.2 does

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому +1

      @@Scott-f9 ahh that's great news. I'll perhaps revisit this with a gui version

  • @FacuTopa
    @FacuTopa 7 місяців тому

    What is the command to get the gid or uid when you mention LXC namspace or host namespace?
    Greate video i hope this help me to solve the HWA.

  • @copytoothpaste
    @copytoothpaste 5 місяців тому +1

    How does it work with dedicated GPUs? Do I need to install the driver on the Proxmox Host or in the LXC? Do I need to specify the card in the docker compose or is the ID enough? Do I need the Container Toolkit for Docker? I really like your content, one of the best channels right now about selfhosting, but haven't found a solution to this.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  5 місяців тому +1

      The video is using a dedicated intel arc a380 GPU. For Nvidia you should be able to follow the same process. I believe most modern OS will have drivers but you might need to add them.

    • @copytoothpaste
      @copytoothpaste 5 місяців тому

      @@Jims-Garage Thank you for the answer. I'll try it.

  • @tld8102
    @tld8102 3 місяці тому

    amazing. use for my iGPU. are there any other devices apart of the GPU in addition to video and render? can i not pass all the functions to the LXC or virtual machine? On my system it says the iGPU is the same IOMMU group as the USB controllers and such. So i can't pass it through the the VM, would it be possible the share the iPU among VMs?

  • @champ666ZA
    @champ666ZA 2 місяці тому

    how can we do this for an NFS share on an Unprivileged LXC?

  • @Danilo_TI
    @Danilo_TI Місяць тому +1

    Thanks a lot! Don't need to activate iommu in grub?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому +1

      @@Danilo_TI no, because it's simply sharing the host's hardware, not passing it through.

    • @Danilo_TI
      @Danilo_TI Місяць тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage Can i do same thing for USB storage ?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому +1

      @@Danilo_TI you should be able to share it yes

  • @edwardrhodes4403
    @edwardrhodes4403 7 місяців тому +1

    Is there a way to do the opposite? As in consolidate multiple GPUs, RAM etc. into one server? I have 2 laptops and an external GPU I want to connect together to combine their compute to then be able to redistribute it out to multiple devices similar to this video. Is it possible?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      I don't think so. The closest I could imagine is pooling the resources into a Kubernetes cluster or docker swarm.

  • @MrRobot-ek1ih
    @MrRobot-ek1ih 5 місяців тому +1

    Great guide. I just got this working for two LXC and Jellyfin. I am trying to use Plex in a Docker container but can't get the hardware transcoding to work. Can anyone help?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  5 місяців тому

      Check the docs here, it's what I use. Almost identical: github.com/linuxserver/docker-plex

    • @narkelo
      @narkelo 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage great video! I got it working with Jellyfin just like in your video, but under Plex(using the link you provided) I get "No VA display found for device /dev/dri/renderD128" in the Plex transcoder settings it recognizes the iGPU, "lshw" in the container also sees the iGPU. any ideas you can share would be a big help. thanks!

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  4 місяці тому

      @@narkelo It's likely t o be permissions with the Plex user. Try running as root then dial it back if that works.

  • @stanislavtodorov8705
    @stanislavtodorov8705 2 місяці тому

    Hey Jim, thanks for your thorough tutorials. Most of my home lab setup is done with the help of your videos. Following this specific tutorial a question arises: since the Jellyfin CT is using the host's hardware, should I enable the GPU passthrough prior to sharing my iGPU to the Jellyfin CT, or doing the groups mapping trick is enough? By 'sharing' the iGPU does it mean I can still use it for the proxmox host (if I have to connect a display straight to my server and access the proxmox CLI)?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  2 місяці тому

      By following this video the host and the CTs can use the iGPU. If you do a passthrough then only that VM can use it (the host cannot).

    • @stanislavtodorov8705
      @stanislavtodorov8705 2 місяці тому

      That's awesome! And thanks for the swift response. In fact, thank you for all the awesome work you do!

    • @stanislavtodorov8705
      @stanislavtodorov8705 2 місяці тому

      @@Jims-Garage mapped the uid and gid values as you did;
      1. I am able to see my renderD128 device in the LXC: crw-rw---- 1 nobody _ssh 226, 128 Jul 4 07:53 renderD128;
      2. lspc icommand in the LXC shows: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation CometLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630] (rev 03)
      3. Installed intel gpu tools and ran intel_gpu_top - Failed to initialize PMU! (Permission denied)
      4. Installed Jellyfin and ffmpeg6, then proceeded to enabling transcoding, following the official Jellyfin guide.
      when trying to check the supported QSV / VA-API codecs gives me the following output:
      root@Jellyfin:~# /usr/lib/jellyfin-ffmpeg/vainfo --display drm --device /dev/dri/renderD128
      Trying display: drm
      Failed to open the given device!
      I will appreciate any help.

    • @stanislavtodorov8705
      @stanislavtodorov8705 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage nevermind. I had mistake in my gid mappings. In your video you map gid 107 (LXC) to 104 (Host). In my case i had to map 106 to 104. Slightly changed my mappings and everything works as a charm now! Thank you once again for the sublime tutorial

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  2 місяці тому

      @@stanislavtodorov8705 you're most welcome. Perhaps the difference between iGPU and dGPU

  • @sebgln
    @sebgln 6 місяців тому +1

    Hello, it's possible on the same PVE node to have a split gpu for LXC and for VM ? Thanks for this good video.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  6 місяців тому +1

      Not possible with the same GPU as VM requires the GPU is not loaded by the host. Dual GPU would work.

    • @sebgln
      @sebgln 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage that was what it seemed to me, thanks. (I am French and you are easy to understand)

  • @posalab
    @posalab 3 місяці тому

    It's possible do the same thind with an external disk drive and an unprivileged LXC?
    I try to do a Proxmox Backup Server in this scenario and backup on a USB external disk drive, I managed to install with no problems PBS, but failed multiple time the USB hard drive passthrough...
    If enyone has some useful hints it will be nice...

  • @durgeshkshirsagar5160
    @durgeshkshirsagar5160 Місяць тому +1

    I followed you guide but when I played video, it said fatal error. My processor is 4670s and gpu is GTX 950.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому

      @@durgeshkshirsagar5160 did you make sure you changed the mapping for your Nvidia GPU and that each machine has the same drivers?

    • @durgeshkshirsagar5160
      @durgeshkshirsagar5160 Місяць тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage I changed the mapping as per your guide. But, I do not have the drivers installed on either proxmox host and LXC as well. Sorry, if this is required to make it work.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому +1

      @@durgeshkshirsagar5160 for intel this video works (drivers are installed in the kernel). For Nvidia you need to install drivers on Proxmox host and inside the LXC

    • @durgeshkshirsagar5160
      @durgeshkshirsagar5160 Місяць тому

      @@Jims-Garage Thank you for the help.

  • @mg3299
    @mg3299 3 місяці тому +1

    Is there a chance this setup can be broken with a future update? That being said is safer to pass through gpu and hdd to a vm so you won’t have to worry about your pass through hardware from not being pass through.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  3 місяці тому

      Yes, kernel updates can break this without following specific procedures. VMs don't have that problem.

    • @mg3299
      @mg3299 3 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@Jims-Garagedo you have the specific procedures so it won’t break when there’s a kernel update?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  3 місяці тому

      @@mg3299 there's a handy script here, but do take time to understand it. github.com/tteck/Proxmox

    • @mg3299
      @mg3299 3 місяці тому

      @@Jims-Garage are you referring to the hardware acceleration script? If yes I am reading the script and correct if I am wrong but I believe the script requires the container to be a privileged container which is not a good thing.

  • @lachlanvanderdrift7013
    @lachlanvanderdrift7013 5 місяців тому

    How exactly do i get this running with a different user other than root? You said that you could do this through somewhere that you mentioned in the start of the tutorial, but i cant seem to figure it out. Pls help hahaha

  • @theunsortedfolder6082
    @theunsortedfolder6082 7 місяців тому +1

    I did not catch this quite right -so is this a way that works only with many LXC+Docker inside or many LXC+ anything inside. That is - can i run, say, 4 LXC debian containers and in each one of them, one Windows 10 VM? If so - it is interesting and great! Otherwise (LXC+Docker)... isn't it already possible to share GPU with every docker container after installing nvidia cuda docker, and pass -gpu all

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      Unfortunately you cannot have a windows LXC. You could use this for a Linux desktop though with GPU acceleration. E.g., you could have a Linux gaming remote client

    • @theunsortedfolder6082
      @theunsortedfolder6082 7 місяців тому

      @@Jims-Garageso, you are saying: yes, it is not exclusive for LXC+Docker, but anything running in LXC can access gpu? If so, what would one get just for sake of having it: proxmox > LXC (debian with gpu) > cockpit > windows VM > gpu intensive app like game or cad software?

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan1239 7 місяців тому +1

    Three questions:
    1) Have you tried gaming with this, simultaneously?
    2) Have you tested this method using either an AMD GPU and/or a NVIDIA GPU?
    3) Do you ever run into a situation where the first container "hangs on" to the Intel Arc A380 and wouldn't let go of it such that the other containers aren't able to access said Intel Arc A380 anymore?
    I am asking because I am running into this problem right now with my NVIDIA RTX A2000 where the first container sees it and even WITHOUT the container being started and in a running state -- my second container (Plex) -- when I try to run "nvidia-smi", it says: "Failed to initialize NVML: Unknown Error".
    But if I remove my first container, than the second container is able to "get" the RTX A2000 passed through to it without any issues.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      1. No, not sure how I'd test it. Would have to be Linux desktop environment I assume.
      2. No, but the process should be identical, it's not intel specific.
      3. No, haven't seen that issue. As per the video I created 4 and all had access and survived reboots etc

    • @ewenchan1239
      @ewenchan1239 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage
      1. I would think that if you ran "apt install -y xfce4 xfce4-goodies xorg dbus-x11 x11-xserver-utils xfce4-terminal xrdp", you should be able to at least install the desktop environment that you can then remote into and install Steam (for example) and then test it with like League of Legends or something like that -- something that wouldn't be too graphically demanding for the Arc A380, no?
      2. The numbers for the cgroup2 stuff that you have to add to the .conf changes depending on whether it's an Intel (i)GPU (or dGPU) vs. NVIDIA.
      i.e. with my Nvidia RTX A2000, I don't have that RenderD128 option or whatever it is that it corresponds to.
      3. Are you able to test passing the same GPU between from a CT to a VM and back?
      This is the issue that I am running into right now with my A2000 where my VM won't release the GPU, even after the VM has been stopped.
      The CT will report back (when I try to run "nvidia-smi") "Failed to initialize NVML: Unknown Error".
      However, prior to shutting down my LXC container and starting the VM, the CT is able to "see" and use said A2000 (as reported by "nvidia-smi") when I am running a GPU accelerated CFD application.
      Shut down the CT, start the VM, run the same GPU accelerated CFD application, shut down the VM, and start the CT again -- that same GPU accelerated CFD application now won't load/utilize said A2000 and "nvidia-smi" will give me that error.
      So I am curious if you're running into the same thing, if you were to try and pass the GPU back and forth between VM CT.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      @@ewenchan1239 I could do that by installing a desktop or game I think.
      I think the issue you're facing is that because you're using a VM for passthrough you're likely blacklisting devices and drivers. This would stop the host being able to share the GPU with the LXC

    • @ewenchan1239
      @ewenchan1239 7 місяців тому

      ​@@Jims-Garage
      "I think the issue you're facing is that because you're using a VM for passthrough you're likely blacklisting devices and drivers. This would stop the host being able to share the GPU with the LXC"
      But you would think that when the VM is stopped, it would release the GPU back to the host, so that you can use it for something else, e.g. a LXC.

  • @ckthmpson
    @ckthmpson 7 місяців тому +1

    Is this simplified if one were to go with a privileged container?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      A privilegeled LXC doesn't require the idmap, you can simply mount

    • @ckthmpson
      @ckthmpson 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage Thanks. Might try the unprivileged method...just seems like a rather complicated process which would be simplified in the privileged scenario. Do realize the security implications.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      @@ckthmpson if it's simply for internal applications you're probably okay

  • @pnwscitech1589
    @pnwscitech1589 Місяць тому +1

    How can this be modified to split the GPU between VMs?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому +1

      You can't with consumer gear. You either need an old GPU with a driver hack or an intel iGPU with gpu-vt (but it's deprecated AFAIK)

    • @pnwscitech1589
      @pnwscitech1589 Місяць тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage Thanks! I'm planning to use an Nvidia Tesla P4 card. I tried following a craft computing tutorial, but some of the repositories arent available anymore. im bummed...

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому

      @@pnwscitech1589 Tesla can be split from what I know, grid or something. I don't have one to test though unfortunately

  • @muhammedakyuz9126
    @muhammedakyuz9126 17 днів тому +1

    is it possible to do this on multiple windows or macos vms?

  • @Alkaiser88
    @Alkaiser88 7 місяців тому

    Jim in your video why is it after you edit the conf file and boot up the 104 container that when you run ls -l /dev/dri the render is showing group ssh 226, 129, shouldnt it be render 226, 129

    • @Alkaiser88
      @Alkaiser88 7 місяців тому

      on my CT the render group is 106 but when I try to edit the conf file and use
      lxc.idmap: u 0 100000 65536
      lxc.idmap: g 0 100000 44
      lxc.idmap: g 44 44 1
      lxc.idmap: g 45 100045 62
      lxc.idmap: g 106 104 1
      lxc.idmap: g 107 100107 65428
      it fails to boot.
      it only works if I use
      lxc.idmap: u 0 100000 65536
      lxc.idmap: g 0 100000 44
      lxc.idmap: g 44 44 1
      lxc.idmap: g 45 100045 62
      lxc.idmap: g 107 104 1
      lxc.idmap: g 108 100108 65428
      but again its showing the /dev/dri is in group _ssh for me instead of render on my CT
      do we need to edit the conf file before the first boot to have render grouped to 107?

    • @rotesblut9904
      @rotesblut9904 4 місяці тому

      hello, have you figure it out? how to change the group of renderd128 to render?

  • @dfleiva
    @dfleiva Місяць тому +1

    Just wanted to add that there is a more simple way of doing this by placing the following in the .conf file instead of the other lines including idmap lines: dev0: /dev/dri/card0,gid=44,uid=0 and dev1: /dev/dri/renderD128,gid=105,uid=0

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  Місяць тому

      @@dfleiva thanks, I'll test that out

  • @brick4667
    @brick4667 2 місяці тому

    Can you shed some light on why the container would start but then not show anything on the console but a black screen? In my case I'm running an unmanic container on Debian 12 and followed the guide and while I don't get any errors, my Console is just a black screen (but the container shows up on my network - it's unreachable though)

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  2 місяці тому

      Can you SSH?

    • @brick4667
      @brick4667 2 місяці тому

      @@Jims-Garage ​ Alright so strangely enough it must just take a very long time to startup because going back to the container console after a while does present a prompt.
      However, now I cannot access the app interface (in this case - unmanic) via the IP:PORT but the IP does show up on the network

  • @sohail579
    @sohail579 2 місяці тому +1

    If I am using an nvidia card do i need to install he drivers for it on the Proxmox host first?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  2 місяці тому

      You'll need the same drivers on the host and LXC.

    • @sohail579
      @sohail579 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage I have 2 GPUs a 4090 for my gaming VM and a Quadro P2000 for my LXCs for Plex, Frigate etc.. will the driver on the host cause me issues with my 4090 and VM passthrough?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  2 місяці тому

      @@sohail579 you should be fine, drivers are device specific. I imagine the same driver will be used for both of those cards. A 4090 is wild for a gaming VM. Jealous!

    • @sohail579
      @sohail579 2 місяці тому

      @@Jims-Garage Thanks it used to be a 3090ti but found a deal I couldn't refuse so sold the 3090 and took the plunge on the 4090 and I have plenty of cores with my TR Pro 5975wx its prob not the best thing but I have 1 box which does it all as im only home-lab-ing - and let me tell you that you have been a god send I have really been ramping up what my server does since i came accross your channel you explain so well keep up the good work.. now to go figure out the NVIDIA drivers

  • @mitchelwilson5605
    @mitchelwilson5605 3 місяці тому

    Has anyone gotten this working without running JF in Docker? Or is there anyone who can point me to documentation for commands/configurations for JF for the "group add" and "devices" variables from the yaml for docker compose?

  • @mdkrush
    @mdkrush 3 місяці тому +1

    What if I want to add multiple GPUs?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  3 місяці тому +1

      That should be possible, you'd need to follow the same process and add the other devices. I haven't ever done it though (perhaps in future).

  • @cachibachero1
    @cachibachero1 5 місяців тому +1

    After days of struggling between guides on the internet I was able to install the NVIDIA drivers on the host. I have tried to install the drivers in the lxc without success. How did you get yours to work?
    Thank you for the answer, and thank you for the awesome guide.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  5 місяців тому

      I'm using an intel arc a380 GPU. The drivers are baked into the OS. It's definitely possible with Nvidia though, I'll try to find some instructions.

  • @yoshidis4
    @yoshidis4 3 місяці тому +1

    I think this might need updating. I followed this exactly but didn't work.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  3 місяці тому +1

      Worth hopping onto Discord, this still works for me.

    • @yoshidis4
      @yoshidis4 3 місяці тому

      @@Jims-Garage Thanks but no thanks, that app needs my phone number for some reason, I don't want to get robocalls from them. Do you have anything better set up, like Slack?

  • @zabu1458
    @zabu1458 5 місяців тому

    Did I miss a previous step? I have no /dri folder under /dev "ls: cannot access '/dev/dri': No such file or directory"

    • @zabu1458
      @zabu1458 5 місяців тому +3

      Not sure if I should just edit my comment, but... I'm just dumber than I thought. I had a gpu passthrough to a vm. I just removed the gpu from the hardware of that vm and shut it down. But since it's been a while I forgot that I actually had to edit GRUB so proxmox won't load/use the GPU itself.
      i just removed the extra stuff from this line from /etc/default/grub:
      GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet intel_iommu=on iommu=pt pcie_acs_override=downstream,multifunction nofb nomodeset video=vesafb:off,efifb:off"
      so it would be back at
      GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"

    • @hiteshhere
      @hiteshhere 5 місяців тому +1

      @@zabu1458 Thanks for taking your time and shareing this. It helped me revolve mine :)

    • @Bruno-vz8vk
      @Bruno-vz8vk 3 місяці тому

      @@zabu1458 Very Interesting, I have the same problem. When I change my grub, and restart, it won't add the /dri folder in /dev, but my frigate lxc won't start... I effectively tried multiple tutos to do gpu passthrougt... may i have to do another action to see again the /dri?

    • @Bruno-vz8vk
      @Bruno-vz8vk 3 місяці тому

      Found ! had to edit /etc/modules and remove :
      vfio
      vfio_iommu_type1
      vfio_pci
      vfio_virqfd

  • @binarydesk8442
    @binarydesk8442 4 місяці тому

    Is this possible with LXD?

  • @ronny-andrebendiksen4137
    @ronny-andrebendiksen4137 7 місяців тому

    I lost SSH and terminal login access after updating my container. How do I get it back?

    • @zapatista8784
      @zapatista8784 6 місяців тому

      me too. how did you solve it?

  • @systemmodmen2157
    @systemmodmen2157 7 місяців тому +1

    can i share my gtx 1650 between couple of vms or not ?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      Yes, there is a hack for it using vGPU. For an LXC you can follow this video (but it's Linux only).

    • @systemmodmen2157
      @systemmodmen2157 7 місяців тому

      i forget a an important one of the vms is a windows vm and this pc is under my tv can i accses the gpu with hdmi and play directly from it or not and thanks for the respond @@Jims-Garage

  • @GeorgeHirst93
    @GeorgeHirst93 11 днів тому

    Hmmm, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here.
    I followed all the steps and can see renderD128 showing up with ls -l /dev/dri command in my LXC. I can also see that if I run the same command in the client within Portainer. But I when I enable hardware acceleration in Jellyfin then I get a fatal error.
    The only thing that puzzles me is when I was looking for the group ID for my GPU, it was 65534 rather than 107.
    If anyone has any thought's I'd be grateful. It's a big change from running CasaOS on a Pi 😂

    • @GeorgeHirst93
      @GeorgeHirst93 11 днів тому +1

      I fixed it. Just needed to reboot proxmox to get the permissions to work. I was then getting the group 107 as expected

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  10 днів тому +1

      Awesome, glad you fixed it!

  • @texasermd1
    @texasermd1 7 місяців тому +1

    Would there be a use case for a higher end card like a spare RYX 3070?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      This solution is GPU agnostic, you can use whatever you want.

  • @basdfgwe
    @basdfgwe 7 місяців тому +1

    Can i ask why you're running docker inside of a lxc container ?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +2

      Why not? Simplifies deployment as I have all of the compose files ready. You could do it manually.

    • @basdfgwe
      @basdfgwe 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage Does it provide any advantage of containerising insider of a container ? Don't get me wrong I have docker containers running on unraid, which is running on proxmox....But my reason is: I made a mistake putting my storage on unraid and shifting from unraid is going to cost 000s.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      @@basdfgwe think of the LXC as a virtual machine. It's the same as running a standard docker instance.

    • @texasermd1
      @texasermd1 7 місяців тому

      What would this look like with a high end GPU like a GTX 3070?

    • @PODLine
      @PODLine 7 місяців тому

      I do the same as Jim and it makes perfectly sense (to me). As a starting point, you could see docker as app containers and lxc as OS containers.

  • @thebullshittersvonmatterho8512
    @thebullshittersvonmatterho8512 7 місяців тому +1

    Is Jim ai generated?

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      "No, he is real" - JimBotv2.0

  • @ewenchan1239
    @ewenchan1239 7 місяців тому

    So I've been playing around with this some more, and found that if I deleted the VM, and was ONLY running LXC containers (right now, I am using all privileged containers -- haven't tested with unprivileged containers yet) -- I am able to have multiple LXC containers do different things with my RTX A2000.
    Going to be testing with gaming next, so we'll see.
    But yeah - it would appear that I can't have both VMs and CTs on the same host, sharing a GPU.
    I can either have ONE VM using the GPU at a time, or I can have NO VMs (at all, on the host, that uses the GPU), and at least a few LXC containers, sharing the one GPU.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      Yes, makes sense as a VM requires isolation of the hardware, a LXC doesn't.

    • @ewenchan1239
      @ewenchan1239 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Jims-Garage
      But the crazy thing is that you would think that when the VM ISN'T running, that the LXC should be or ought to be able to use the "free" GPU that isn't being used/tied to a VM anymore.
      That doesn't appear to be the case.
      It wasn't until I removed said VM, did it "release" the GPU back over to the LXC containers.

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      @@ewenchan1239 I could be wrong but it sounds like you aren't blacklisting the drivers and device completely. To my knowledge the LXC wouldn't work with hardware passthrough if you were as the host won't be loading drivers

    • @ewenchan1239
      @ewenchan1239 7 місяців тому

      @@Jims-Garage
      "I could be wrong but it sounds like you aren't blacklisting the drivers and device completely."
      I'm at work right now, so I'll have to pull my config files later, when I get back home.
      *edit*
      Here are the config files:
      /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf
      blacklist nvidia
      blacklist nouveau
      blacklist vfio-pci
      /etc/default/grub
      GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet intel_iommu=on iommu=pt pcie_acs_override=downstream nofb nomodeset initcall_blacklist=sysfb_init video=vesafbff,efifbff vfio-pci.ids=10de:2531,10de:228e disable_vga=1"
      /etc/modprobe.d/vfio.conf
      options vfio-pci ids=10de:2531,10de:228e disable_vga=1
      /etc/modprobe.d/kvm.conf
      options kvm ignore_msrs=1
      /etc/modprobe.d/iommu_unsafe_interrupts.conf
      options vfio_iommu_type1 allow_unsafe_interrupts=1
      /etc/modprobe.d/pve-blacklist.conf
      blackllist nvidiafb
      blacklist nvidia
      blacklist nouveau
      blacklist radeon
      /etc/modules
      vfio
      vfio_iommu_type1
      vfio_pci
      vfio_virqfd
      nvidia
      nvidia-modeset
      nvidia_uvm
      Yeah...so that's what I have, in my config files.
      As far as I can tell, it's complete (because it works for both VMs and CTs, just not being able to pass the GPU back and forth between said VM(s) and CT(s)). But between CTs, not a problem.

    • @ewenchan1239
      @ewenchan1239 7 місяців тому

      @@Jims-Garage
      "To my knowledge the LXC wouldn't work with hardware passthrough if you were as the host won't be loading drivers"
      Updated my previous comment.
      With the config information that I just shared, it works for both VMs and CTs - just not when they exist on the same host, at the same time.

  • @hristijanangelov2051
    @hristijanangelov2051 Місяць тому +1

    update: i fix it... its was my mistake
    root:44:1
    rooot:104:1
    :/
    lxc_map_ids: 245 newgidmap failed to write mapping "newgidmap: gid range [107-108) -> [104-105) not allowed": newgidmap 228560 0 100000 44 44 44 1 45 100045 62 107 104 1 108 100108 65428
    lxc_spawn: 1795 Failed to set up id mapping.

  • @peteradshead2383
    @peteradshead2383 7 місяців тому +2

    You have solved just one of my little problems , I've moved jellyfin form one server to another and frigate VA worked , but jellyfin was giving me a error .
    Stream mapping:
    Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (h264 (native) -> h264 (h264_amf))
    Stream #0:1 -> #0:1 (aac (native) -> aac (libfdk_aac))
    Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
    [h264_amf @ 0x557e719b81c0] DLL libamfrt64.so.1 failed to open
    double free or corruption (fasttop)
    Could not work it out it was, it was from a backup so the same configs etc , look at your notes and there was a OOPs forgot to the. usermod -aG render,video root
    Now all working again .

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому

      Awesome, glad it's fixed

  • @umad0p
    @umad0p Місяць тому

    [hevc @ 0x614d20d42dc0] Failed to create decode context: 2 (resource allocation failed).
    [hevc @ 0x614d20d42dc0] Failed setup for format vaapi: hwaccel initialisation returned error.
    Impossible to convert between the formats supported by the filter 'Parsed_setparams_0' and the filter 'auto_scale_0'
    Error reinitializing filters!
    Tried to fresh install of proxmox 8.2.4, Debian 12 lxc , jellyfin in docker and i dont know where i faild, using Arc A380.
    In LXC
    ls -l /dev/dri
    total 0
    crw-rw---- 1 nobody _ssh 226, 128 Aug 2 19:45 renderD128

  • @ziozzot
    @ziozzot 7 місяців тому +2

    does not work for me FFmpeg gives this error [AVHWDeviceContext @ 0x642ff9562240] No VA display found for device /dev/dri/renderD128.
    Device creation failed: -22.
    [h264 @ 0x642ff954c540] No device available for decoder: device type vaapi needed for codec h264.
    Stream mapping:
    Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (h264 (native) -> h264 (h264_vaapi))
    Stream #0:2 -> #0:1 (aac (native) -> aac (native))
    Device setup failed for decoder on input stream #0:0 : Invalid argument

    • @Jims-Garage
      @Jims-Garage  7 місяців тому +1

      What are you trying to pass through?

    • @ziozzot
      @ziozzot 7 місяців тому

      @@Jims-Garage I tried passing through the iGPU without success. I then attempted it with a privileged container, and it works. I installed Jellyfin directly in the LXC without Docker. Probably there is an issue with the permissions.

    • @ziozzot
      @ziozzot 6 місяців тому +2

      with the help of ChatGPT i figured out the config that works for me lxc.cgroup2.devices.allow: c 226:0 rwm
      lxc.cgroup2.devices.allow: c 226:128 rwm
      lxc.mount.entry: /dev/dri/renderD128 dev/dri/renderD128 none bind,optional,create=file
      lxc.idmap: u 0 100000 65536
      lxc.idmap: g 0 100000 44
      lxc.idmap: g 44 44 1
      lxc.idmap: g 45 100045 59
      lxc.idmap: g 104 104 1
      lxc.idmap: g 105 100105 65431

    • @GeorgeHirst93
      @GeorgeHirst93 11 днів тому

      @@ziozzot What did you ask ChatGPT to do? 😂 I've tried a couple thing to help with permissions and I can't see where I'm going wrong