50 years of increasingly onerous wealth inequality will do that. Your dollars are competing with Elon's for everything. Tim Cook gives these away for birthday presents. Because he is that talented.
@@RARenfield You know they still make the 172 today? It costs a heck of a lot more than it did a half century ago when they made them by the thousands each year. It’s virtually the same plane only with less expensive avionics. How does that square with your theory on why they are unaffordable today? Personally, there’s nothing in my knowledge of history or economics that tells me the reason cars and planes diverging so much in cost and value should be blamed on wealth inequality.
@@nunyabidness3075 Hello. Wealth inequality is an insidious affair. There is no simple sound bite summing it up. I'm not a professional historian or economist. Just a diligent observer of the 65 years I've been privy to. The old saying about economists seems appropriate. Ask 10 economists what will happen, you'll get 10 entirely different answers. My buying power, unlike the wet hourly rate for a 152, has decline in direct proportion to the number of wealthy individuals competing for the same items in the same marketplace. That's pretty basic economics, even for a layman. The real bottom line? Not to put too fine a point on it but what you have no knowledge of is not my concern. That 172 and this Carbon Cub square well with my theory. All the best.
I’m in the process of building a very capable super stol aircraft, folding wings, multi fuel and LSA, off airport, trailer hangered aircraft (so have it in your driveway), take off from a cricket pitch and land the same all for under AUD$130k. Cheap as chips for 2 people with total max usable load of 506kgs but of course you can reduce you load to make the LSA MTOW. Unloaded dry load 220kg.
As someone currently flying behind a C-85 with a Stromberg carb, I'd sure love to find a way into something with this powerplant. Not going to trade my home for one, though.
The UL category outside the US is very different. In Europe most countries adapted the German certification standards (UL's are covered by national law and NOT by EASA). You need a dedicated license, MTOW is 600 Kg.. Payload including all fluids (Germany also requires a parachute, weight approx. 20 Kg, too) must be at least 200 Kg + 1 hour gas going max cruise speed. Therefore, the Carbon Cub 's empty weight, including parachute must be at least less than 380 Kg (837.8 pounds). You will need a lot of prepreg carbon fore that.
@@aggiewoodie, BUT they don't have to be made out of carbon fiber and titanium! this is really my point. where's the "working man's" chevy version of new airplanes?
1978 I learned to fly on a Cup. What a pleasure! Now this overweight manager of this s..t company provides the FALSE impression that the RedBull example uses the over expensive 916. Actually Mike tuned an oldfashion 4-Banger with Nitrox!!
Funny. I've owned two aircraft with Rotax 912s, both made it to 2k hours no problem, I've owned two aircraft with Lycoming engines, both failed before TBO.. I've been a shareholder in an aircraft with a Continental engine that had a catastrophic failure only a few hours after rebuild at a well known shop. The Tecnam P2006T runs two Rotax engines and they're very popular for training academies outside the US. The MQ-1 Predator drone uses a Rotax 914, and they run them "on condition", they regularly go beyond 8,000 hrs before replacement. I think it's time for people to reevaluate their views on modern Rotax Engines for light aircraft.
@@tlevans62I know rotax aircraft engines are not exactly the same as rotax power sport engines, but in my experience with them, I wouldn't trust one with my life.
@@semiprofessional8470 I've trusted them with my life on many occasions, flying over the mountains of BC and the deserts of the Middle East, never let me down once. The Predator drones use them "on condition" and many have done over 8k hours before needing a rebuild. I don't know anyone that's had any of the 9XX class fail on them, but lots of Continentals and Lycomings have. But you stick with your opinion Mate.
Does it has the same design fault that killed Dooley Vanyo who was flying Cub Crafters CCK-1865 Carbon Cub, N56DV, in the accident that occurred on October 1, 2023, near Twisp, Washington? When he landed hard, one of the lading gear legs collapsed and damaged the aileron cable pulley located near the attachment point of the leg. It's an extremely stupid and dangerous design, and I will be surprised if it was not changed after the accident
Why don’t everyone complaining about the price go start their own airplane company and try to do what cub crafters is doing, but cheaper. They know their worth, and they’re worth it.
We're not saying they should charge less; we're saying the state of the new airplane market is ridiculous and I'm sure the CubCrafters product managers would agree with us.
No way… I’ve been to the factory. They are just making a super cub with a few carbon fiber parts. Nothing special at all. Just a VERY expensive, and very old design.
Using salesman cringe about international sales then not using Jet A Diesel engine is a disgrace. No one cares about unleaded or av gas in the rest of the world. If its not diesel then dont bother. Fail.
To build the lightest Carbon Cub possible! Excellent marriage.
My first solo 1963 in a 65 hp Cub! Cub the ultimate aviation legend!
Absolute legend!
I never thought a friggin cub would only be accessible to the most wealthy people. Now that's an achievement
New world order
What?
50 years of increasingly onerous wealth inequality will do that. Your dollars are competing with Elon's for everything. Tim Cook gives these away for birthday presents. Because he is that talented.
@@RARenfield You know they still make the 172 today? It costs a heck of a lot more than it did a half century ago when they made them by the thousands each year. It’s virtually the same plane only with less expensive avionics. How does that square with your theory on why they are unaffordable today?
Personally, there’s nothing in my knowledge of history or economics that tells me the reason cars and planes diverging so much in cost and value should be blamed on wealth inequality.
@@nunyabidness3075 Hello. Wealth inequality is an insidious affair. There is no simple sound bite summing it up. I'm not a professional historian or economist. Just a diligent observer of the 65 years I've been privy to.
The old saying about economists seems appropriate. Ask 10 economists what will happen, you'll get 10 entirely different answers.
My buying power, unlike the wet hourly rate for a 152, has decline in direct proportion to the number of wealthy individuals competing for the same items in the same marketplace. That's pretty basic economics, even for a layman.
The real bottom line? Not to put too fine a point on it but what you have no knowledge of is not my concern. That 172 and this Carbon Cub square well with my theory.
All the best.
Kind of a fun presentation to watch! Hundreds of details packed into 7 minutes…. - a -
Beautiful plane!
Looks great!
I’m in the process of building a very capable super stol aircraft, folding wings, multi fuel and LSA, off airport, trailer hangered aircraft (so have it in your driveway), take off from a cricket pitch and land the same all for under AUD$130k. Cheap as chips for 2 people with total max usable load of 506kgs but of course you can reduce you load to make the LSA MTOW. Unloaded dry load 220kg.
Now, there is a plane for flying to my summer cabin where even my lawn is long enough to land on 🙂
Love that! I want one!
As someone currently flying behind a C-85 with a Stromberg carb, I'd sure love to find a way into something with this powerplant. Not going to trade my home for one, though.
A loooooong way from Paul's Cub!
Pretty much everything is a long way from Paul's Cub.
Unless you're flying a Jenny.
The UL category outside the US is very different. In Europe most countries adapted the German certification standards (UL's are covered by national law and NOT by EASA). You need a dedicated license, MTOW is 600 Kg.. Payload including all fluids (Germany also requires a parachute, weight approx. 20 Kg, too) must be at least 200 Kg + 1 hour gas going max cruise speed. Therefore, the Carbon Cub 's empty weight, including parachute must be at least less than 380 Kg (837.8 pounds).
You will need a lot of prepreg carbon fore that.
So, how much does this one cost? Fark'ing ridiculous how much these planes cost.
Thank your local lawyer
It’s a friggin’ airplane! What would be a reasonable price for a carbon composite and titanium airplane?
@@aggiewoodie, BUT they don't have to be made out of carbon fiber and titanium! this is really my point. where's the "working man's" chevy version of new airplanes?
There are plenty of other Cub options out there that aren’t carbon
@@chrislovett6120 Yep, Zlin has their Savage Cub with a rotax. Most basic option with 80hp engine goes for around $85K brand new
Fantastic, just gotta figure out how to pay for one. :+ )
Good news. The future of internal combustion engines is sound.
nice
I’ve been in a wooden cub, it was too much trouble getting in and out. Do they make one with a comfortable seat and leg room?
Garmin G3X option please
1978 I learned to fly on a Cup. What a pleasure!
Now this overweight manager of this s..t company provides the FALSE impression that the RedBull example uses the over expensive 916. Actually Mike tuned an oldfashion 4-Banger with Nitrox!!
Everything on this beauty, Carbon Cub, will be low except the price I bet unfortunately....
I would expect 300,000
Now build a remake of the piper colt or tri-pacer or both.
Nice aeroplane, but I'd have to sell organs to buy one🤔😳🙄😄
Well hell... you guys have ballistic parachutes now... I guess I could consider a Rotax lol.
😂😂😂
Funny. I've owned two aircraft with Rotax 912s, both made it to 2k hours no problem, I've owned two aircraft with Lycoming engines, both failed before TBO.. I've been a shareholder in an aircraft with a Continental engine that had a catastrophic failure only a few hours after rebuild at a well known shop. The Tecnam P2006T runs two Rotax engines and they're very popular for training academies outside the US. The MQ-1 Predator drone uses a Rotax 914, and they run them "on condition", they regularly go beyond 8,000 hrs before replacement. I think it's time for people to reevaluate their views on modern Rotax Engines for light aircraft.
@@tlevans62I know rotax aircraft engines are not exactly the same as rotax power sport engines, but in my experience with them, I wouldn't trust one with my life.
@@semiprofessional8470 I've trusted them with my life on many occasions, flying over the mountains of BC and the deserts of the Middle East, never let me down once. The Predator drones use them "on condition" and many have done over 8k hours before needing a rebuild. I don't know anyone that's had any of the 9XX class fail on them, but lots of Continentals and Lycomings have. But you stick with your opinion Mate.
Shoot I live in the US and don't put AV gas in my planes motor lol.
Specs??
$350K
Holy Shit.
@@chupacabra1765 Beat me to it.
Nukin’ Futs
Wow! I could buy 2 gyro planes for that price!!
After 2 years of development and inflation more like $450K when you can actually buy one in 2025
Does it has the same design fault that killed Dooley Vanyo who was flying Cub Crafters CCK-1865 Carbon Cub, N56DV, in the accident that occurred on October 1, 2023, near Twisp, Washington?
When he landed hard, one of the lading gear legs collapsed and damaged the aileron cable pulley located near the attachment point of the leg. It's an extremely stupid and dangerous design, and I will be surprised if it was not changed after the accident
Let me guess without watching the video: minimum $250k, but its got a garmin gps, perhaps a parachute. What do I win?
I would say 300,000
No parachute and normally optioned it's around 350k.
Instead, why not a 120 lb pilot and a 200 lb passenger ? Or is there such a combo, lol ?
If I were a rich man..... lol
Another 300k craft only 80 people can afford. 😂
Why don’t everyone complaining about the price go start their own airplane company and try to do what cub crafters is doing, but cheaper.
They know their worth, and they’re worth it.
We're not saying they should charge less; we're saying the state of the new airplane market is ridiculous and I'm sure the CubCrafters product managers would agree with us.
No way… I’ve been to the factory. They are just making a super cub with a few carbon fiber parts. Nothing special at all. Just a VERY expensive, and very old design.
The UL stands for ultralight no license needed to fly this one!
No, They named it UL for the international market where most UL's have between 450 and 600 Kg. mtow and for flying a dedicated license is required.
Using salesman cringe about international sales then not using Jet A Diesel engine is a disgrace. No one cares about unleaded or av gas in the rest of the world. If its not diesel then dont bother. Fail.
ASk for the price!