Elvin Jones Drum Solo Demonstration

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • Elvin Jones circa 1979

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  • @estebanf.l.9831
    @estebanf.l.9831 8 років тому +309

    This guy recorded A Love Supreme. That's all, im not gonna say anything else.

    • @BopWalk
      @BopWalk 7 років тому +11

      Esteban F.L
      Overrated album, his work on Afro Blue from Live At Birdland 1963 is unmatched!

    • @industrialpulse
      @industrialpulse 6 років тому +39

      TheHighTower ALS overrated? There are no words...

    • @CipherSerpico
      @CipherSerpico 6 років тому +36

      TheHighTower A love supreme is overrated? Get the fucking fuck outta here. That album did what the Beatles Revolver did to me. It took me to a new world where it felt like I left my body. I’m much more of a Beatles, Dylan, Neil Young kinda guy, than a Jazz guy, but there is no denying that A love supreme is one of the greatest works of art ever.

    • @d0cn0tes
      @d0cn0tes 4 роки тому +5

      What he did on Giants Steps was a leap forward artistically

    • @teamyordle23
      @teamyordle23 3 роки тому +4

      @@oldboy9267 Ratings are like recommendations. Depends on who's recommending things though.

  • @matthewensign9683
    @matthewensign9683 9 років тому +238

    Musicians aren't concerned with comparing or being compared to other musicians...
    They leave all that shit to the blockhead "fans" who can only exercise creativity through a lens of critique and technical foundation. Pick up an instrument, learn the basics and EXPERIMENT. Every genre and form will eventually stagnate. Have fun with it.

    • @BigJoe2286
      @BigJoe2286 7 років тому +10

      I wish i could like this comment 100 times

    • @austing.8870
      @austing.8870 6 років тому +6

      To me, the best guys are the one's that can come up with something unique and stand out from the pack. Listen to Omar Hakim's drum part on Daft Punk's "Get Lucky" for instance. The groove is so simple, but it's a simple solution that works. Mick Fleetwood is another example of what I'm talking about. The way he utilizes his snare drum is so interesting and nothing like what you hear anyone else do. Musicians aren't athletes, so we shouldn't be comparing them by sheer means of quantification; but by sharing ideas and artforms.

    • @elliebean1118
      @elliebean1118 6 років тому

      Truly this is what separates musicians from pop stars. Guitarist Mike Bloomfield saw it for what it was early on.

    • @e-ternell
      @e-ternell 5 років тому

      @@austing.8870 Thank you Mr; Could you give examples of Fleetwood drumming snare, I don't know .... :)

    • @Lightner445555555555
      @Lightner445555555555 5 років тому +1

      I was with you until you took to insults.

  • @iandotson7954
    @iandotson7954 8 років тому +250

    Damn did every jazz great have the compound voice of morgan freeman and God??

  • @alanasda7705
    @alanasda7705 Рік тому +10

    My dad was a jazz drummer and Elvin Jones was his hero. About twenty five years ago, my dad had the opportunity to hear Elvin give a masterclass in Montreal at the Salle Gesu concert hall and actually got to play with him.
    My dad told me that besides marrying my mom and my birth, that day with Elvin was happiest day of his life.

  • @roadrocket7
    @roadrocket7 9 років тому +173

    Just a few thoughts that haven't been touched on. First of all, when Elvin first came out of Detroit and was making a name for himself, NOBODY played like him at the time. He made a lot of the old guys mad for his very unique style and his use of polyrhythyms. Elvin was not liked at first. He was a brave man, a pioneer. He knew what he was doing and so did guys like Coltrane and Sonny. He came from a very musical and talented family. The Jones brothers were all so uniquely talented. The second thing I want to point out is his appearance in the early 70s cult movie "Zachariah", where Elvin plays a gunslinger. He appears along with Joe Walsh and the James Gang and pushes Jimmy Fox away from his drums and proceeds to play one helluva solo. So cool and weird and amazing. Hard to find, but worth the search. Elvin was a gift to us drummers. He paved the way for so many. There was only one Elvin.

    • @RobollieG
      @RobollieG 6 років тому +1

      The audio had been lost for Elvin's drum solo in that scene in ZACHARIAH, and Earl Palmer actually recreated the solo, which was then dubbed into the scene.

    • @joecaroselli5858
      @joecaroselli5858 4 роки тому

      Wonderfully stated.

    • @waltgdrums1
      @waltgdrums1 3 роки тому +2

      @@RobollieG I don't believe that is factual. Just a myth. If you have informed ears you can tell that it is Elvin and not Earl Palmer.

    • @elvinshoolbraid84
      @elvinshoolbraid84 2 роки тому +1

      There are two Elvins’

    • @TheEleatic
      @TheEleatic Рік тому +1

      Art would not exist or develop if artists had identical styles. I like Elvin’s syncopacity and plasticity.

  • @joecaroselli5858
    @joecaroselli5858 4 роки тому +65

    I am a drummer and drumming instructor. I appreciate all of the drummers-- in their own way. I think that we should not compare Elvin Jones to other drummers. I feel that he is a magnificent drummer. His polymeters and barline crossings seemed strange at first to many people. Also, he didn't use the typical cymbal pattern when swinging. If you are only into crisp technique, then Elvin is probably not your cup of tea either. Anyway, he was a true pioneer and modernist. I love him.

    • @HiddenHandMedia
      @HiddenHandMedia 2 роки тому +4

      He just broke my brain

    • @rubenslopes_psi
      @rubenslopes_psi Рік тому +1

      Certainly! But do you know anyone who makes this comparison? It must be someone completely ignorant about music and who can only evaluate music based on sensory pleasure, rather than intelligence and creativity.

    • @LowKey657
      @LowKey657 6 місяців тому +1

      Elvin stands alone as the greatest drummer!

    • @fuzzybutkus8970
      @fuzzybutkus8970 2 місяці тому

      WTF!! are you talking about don’t compare. You compare everything to yourself or others. If not how the hell would you know they were great. Don’t compare!! Please that must be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on Y/T congrats. Oh I just compared your comment to every other one Y/T.

    • @AGPosell
      @AGPosell Місяць тому +2

      In the Drumeo video highlighting Elvin, they at one point say, “There are some things you can’t transcribe.” That’s Elvin. His feel, his swing, is unique and probably not replicable. He’s the best.

  • @mediumstudio
    @mediumstudio 8 років тому +44

    THAT is a properly tuned drum set

  • @MichaelLantz
    @MichaelLantz 9 років тому +60

    I heard that he was a big influence on Mitch Mitchell when he was a member of The Jimi Hendrix Experience.

    • @intrepidpooch
      @intrepidpooch 9 років тому +11

      Michael Lantz Without question! Just ask him, Ginger Baker, John Bonham (if he were alive), or Tico Torres (from Bon Jovi). So many rock drummers were greatly inspired and influenced by Elvin's style.

    • @manysnakes
      @manysnakes 9 років тому +15

      +Michael Lantz I don't think it's a stretch to say that Elvin influenced every drummer who came after him, whether they know it or not.

    • @MichaelLantz
      @MichaelLantz 9 років тому +2

      +darkasthegrave You are correct.I heard Ringo Starr was influenced by D.J. Fontana (The drummer who played with Elvis Presley).

    • @harrysowerby1666
      @harrysowerby1666 8 років тому +2

      Yes, a huge influence I believe

    • @WELLBRAN
      @WELLBRAN 8 років тому +2

      +intrepidpooch Robert Wyatt also...drumming is a deep science

  • @Deagledrumzz
    @Deagledrumzz 7 років тому +22

    Many drummers knowingly or unknowingly have been influenced by Elvin, and there is no argument as to who was better Elvin or Buddy. Because both men respected each other as fine musicians usually do. I saw Elvin at a modern drummers festival, and another drummer that I was with was criticizing him.I said to him, this man is not a young man anymore, and still he is doing things that many younger musicians still cannot play. He came and brought a new book to music and playing. He is without doubt one of the greats. Listen to any of his Coltrane recordings and watch the videos, this man was a creative genius with his own fingerprint.

  • @mrlozano
    @mrlozano 8 років тому +93

    The intellect of jazz drumming is sexy.

    • @amacoea
      @amacoea 8 років тому +15

      gay

    • @username55ify
      @username55ify 8 років тому +7

      tateti totu Straight

    • @lucismith220
      @lucismith220 7 років тому +1

      Henry Lozano Duh

    • @he8082
      @he8082 7 років тому

      Elvin could barely express himself. Guess you dont' have high standards.

    • @pamelagerarden3436
      @pamelagerarden3436 7 років тому +1

      Henry Lozano most

  • @fess04
    @fess04 7 років тому +24

    ....i counted his phrases all the way through the dialogue.......and he hit the 1......kept track......his ideas are super advanced musically.......just sing the phrases with the basic melody in your mind while you do.....its a trip

  • @thizzincarlton
    @thizzincarlton 10 років тому +50

    john coltrane and elvin jones were meant to play music together.

  • @mf-fj4mt
    @mf-fj4mt 7 років тому +41

    Poly = many
    Rhythm = rhythm
    Mono = one
    Rail = rail

    • @tombstoneharrystudios584
      @tombstoneharrystudios584 7 років тому +4

      mf103 Homer "Mono...d'oh!!!"

    • @korsu2615
      @korsu2615 5 років тому +3

      Stupid sexy flanders!

    • @diego2246
      @diego2246 3 роки тому +1

      Okilly Dokilly!

    • @burf82
      @burf82 3 місяці тому

      I’ve put polyrhythms in A Love Supreme and 3 Card Molly, and by gar, it put them on the map!

  • @andrewhall6342
    @andrewhall6342 10 років тому +174

    John Coltrane played with and listened to hundreds of AMAZING drummers, but the first time he heard Elvin playing he thought there were two drummers with two drumsets on the stage. That's how good Elvin is... No one touches him... No one.

    • @samm1809
      @samm1809 9 років тому +4

      He tried to make that idea happen with Elvin in his final year or 2 of life. Elvin hated it.

    • @Oneness100
      @Oneness100 9 років тому +34

      andrew hall Have I got an Elvin Jones story for ya.
      Back in the mid 70's, he was invited to perform with a high school jazz ensemble my older brother played in, and conduct an afternoon masterclass. Since I was learning how to play drums at the time, I cut class to go to the Masterclass and also was able to go backstage to the concert since I was helping my brother cart his gear around.
      What happened at the concert is that Elvin has his Gretsch kit with the 18inch bass drum, and at that time, the spurs they had were those old fashioned ones that didn't really hold the bass drum firmly in place when put on a wood floor at an auditorium, they forgot to get him a carpet for his drum set. Anyway, during the first song, Elvin's bass drum was sliding forward and Elvin was constantly pulling back his bass drum. Well, after a couple of minutes Elvin stopped the song and he told them to get something to put in front of the bass drum.
      This is where it gets Fucking hilarious.
      They gave Elvin Jones a wood block, a couple of long nails and a freaking hammer. So, the auditorium is packed with people, the high school band is on stage watching this and Elvin FREAKING Jones is crouching in front of his bass drum pounding nails into a block of wood to hold his bass drum. After a couple of hits with the hammer he accidentally hit his thumb and yelled FUCK! He finished pounding the nails in the block of wood and then started the song back up. I felt bad for the guy since the High School Band conductor didn't have someone ELSE pound the nail into the block of wood.
      Another part of this was during their rehearsal, the band conductor chose the songs ahead of time and since Elvin has a brother Thad, he figured it would be appropriate to play one of his songs. But here's the kicker, the song he chose was a big band arrangement and Elvin never even heard of the song, let alone have any experience playing it. They played it anyway.
      During the masterclass, Elvin kept on nodding off and making his traditional moaning/grunting sound, but he was doing this while the question and answer period. I guess he had just flown from New York to California and I guess he was so tired, he was nodding off and making that sound instead of answering questions. No one knew what to say or do.
      FUCKING CLASSIC.

    • @bigstein098
      @bigstein098 9 років тому +7

      Oneness100 Cool story but if you think he was "tired" then I've got news for you.

    • @Oneness100
      @Oneness100 9 років тому

      BigStein09 Yeah, he was exhausted during the master class that was held the day of the concert. he was exhausted.

    • @bigstein098
      @bigstein098 9 років тому +5

      Because he was shitfaced...

  • @chowin52
    @chowin52 10 років тому +14

    This might be my first video of seeing Elvin do something like this. Very interesting. Taking a melodic idea and transposing rhythmically. He starts out kind of humbly then when he hooks it up, the sparks fly. Then after totally ripping it up gives a sweet little smile. Classic!

  • @Twistchawa
    @Twistchawa 15 років тому +19

    It's amazing how he can stretch the concept of rhythm until it is almost torn, but then seamlessly fall right back into the groove. Pretty amazing.

  • @hpdrum
    @hpdrum 11 років тому +17

    I’m always dazzled by Louie Bellson and Buddy .
    They are truly great players and they have so much technique.
    If I see Elvin something else happens. It’s more like he is telling a story and on a subconscious level I fully understand what he is telling without the need to figure out what he is doing on a technical level.
    It’s so raw and instinctively played on the moment. I love Elvin.

  • @SussQuatch
    @SussQuatch 11 років тому +16

    Exactly... he was a melodic drummer... playing rhythmic phrases as if he were a singer... turning each note into a nuance.

  • @jzac77
    @jzac77 6 років тому +12

    Mitch Mitchell takes so much influence from this guy, even just the way he tunes and strikes his snare

    • @roadrocket7
      @roadrocket7 Рік тому +2

      I know, me too. I discovered Elvin through Mitch Mitchell, mainly from "Axis: Bold As Love". Elvin's influence on Mitch is all over that record. Backwards osmosis I guess. I had never heard Elvin or Coltrane when I first bought the first two Hendrix albums "Are You Experienced?" and "Axis: Bold As Love". Then after reading reviews of these albums in Downbeat and "Jazz and Pop" magazines, I went out and bought my first Coltrane album "Impressions". Totally blew my mind. Never heard music or drums the same way again.

  • @cherylalbright2086
    @cherylalbright2086 2 роки тому +6

    I'm a classical flutist, but in college, went with a group of friends to hear him at Yoshi's Jazz club, in Oakland, CA. To say I was blown away would be the understatement of all time. He would go into the most complex solo I've ever heard, then at the end bring his buddies back into the song with his wire brushes on his snare, with the most perfect "feel", "groove " I've ever heard. Every cell in that man was created for rhythm and percussion. The greatest Jazz drummer there ever was, in my opinion. NO ONE COMES CLOSE.🥁🎵

  • @mordantfilms
    @mordantfilms 6 років тому +6

    Whoever gave this a thumbs down can't yet grasp the massive atmosphere that Jones creates.

  • @brandnutopian
    @brandnutopian 9 років тому +15

    That looks like way too much fun. I like the smile at the end.

  • @BrianRussick
    @BrianRussick 9 років тому +26

    Impeccable feel mixed with complete originality, one of the greatest who will ever touch the instrument.

  • @WillieCollins79
    @WillieCollins79 6 місяців тому +3

    My drumming style is inspired by his polyrhythmic forms. One of my all time favorite drummer. RIP Mr. Jones your drumming will be timeless…

  • @pieter-jannijessen8312
    @pieter-jannijessen8312 6 років тому +3

    Legend. His playing is beyond 'polyrhythm' as we know it, or talk about. In the sense that it isn't about playing different ostinato's/meters simultaneously like a computer.
    It's more about time-stretching, like a rubberband, without ever losing the One: the beginning and ending of the song are set in time/fixed points, but in between it's playing around (bending and stretching) with time, without losing the pulse, speeding or slowing or otherwise. Ultimate musical freedom.
    One of the few living greats capable of doing this is Jack DeJohnette, in my opinion.

    • @AGPosell
      @AGPosell Місяць тому

      That’s a great way of putting it

  • @Slammintone
    @Slammintone 8 років тому +6

    A pure mix of genius, talent and above all COOL! Makes me wanna rush right out and grab a vintage Gretsch bop kit and start learning to be half as cool.

  • @rhythmfield
    @rhythmfield 13 років тому +2

    @marcmommaas -- wow, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't recognize Tony. Just saw Tony Moreno play here in NY a few months ago, playing great and super nice cat.

  • @Davethreshold
    @Davethreshold 8 місяців тому +1

    One of the HIGHEST FIDELITY recordings of Elvin that I ever heard was, "Live at the Lighthouse." - Two disk set. (Vinyl and CD) It sounds superb! As if you are sitting ten rows out, center. Get ready, cuz it is TRUE Avant-garde!! ❤

  • @bailinnumberguy
    @bailinnumberguy 6 років тому +5

    For my money, the greatest drummer who ever lived (in any genre).

  • @RazrHack
    @RazrHack 10 років тому +8

    I love his little gaffe with the hi-hat at 1:31. Shows that you don't have to be some technical, flawless, perfect robot to be a great drummer.

  • @Robert-zk1zb
    @Robert-zk1zb 7 років тому +4

    A Genius....Now Go Listen to 'Three Card Molly' to be absolutely Blown away.

  • @jazztaktsocietysays..8913
    @jazztaktsocietysays..8913 10 років тому +8

    what a authentcal diamant in jazzdrum history. we love you Elvin!

  • @samm1809
    @samm1809 11 років тому +1

    How to develop a solo based on the 3 Card Molly melody:
    1) melody on snare.
    2) add bass drum
    3) add hi hat.
    4)?????????
    5) profit.

  • @kylewhitehead1684
    @kylewhitehead1684 8 років тому +3

    A drummer talking about music in technical terms? You don't see that anymore.

  • @gmcjetpilot
    @gmcjetpilot 15 років тому +4

    WOW! With Bellson's recent passing, Rich, Roach, Jones gone, we lost most of the cream greatest drummers from the golden age of big band and jazz. Thanks for posting. Glad we have them for a masters class on drumming.

  • @jamesrumley5247
    @jamesrumley5247 11 років тому +2

    i think elvin jones ushered in the "modern" era of jazz drumming- taking the frenetic force of people like buddy rich, from the big band stuff, and melding it with a sensibility akin to miles davis when bebop was passing out of fashion and the "cool" became the new mode of address -he was the right man at the right time for jazz and drumming in general. god bless him.

  • @jddrums2222
    @jddrums2222 14 років тому +3

    I've seen elvin play 4 times and every time I fall asleep. Its the weirdest phenomenon. Even 10 feet away,,, I just start saying "Oh my G-d" over and over in my mind, his playing is so spiritual and I have to use all of my energy just to listen.. Eventually, I just put my head down.

  • @colin6768
    @colin6768 Рік тому +1

    Totally cool. He starts with a marching type rhythm then goes into a whirlwind of all types of patterns with rolls and flams that gel together. I'm a drummer and I still find it difficult to articulate what's going on. What a talent.

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia 10 днів тому +1

    Thank you Elvin

  • @postatility
    @postatility 14 років тому +2

    Beautiful!! I never had the opportunity to meet Elvin,but this clip indicates that he was a very warm,patient and intelligent cat.

  • @xrybgfyuknnderhn9567
    @xrybgfyuknnderhn9567 Рік тому +1

    He is not holding the stick with his thumb on his french grip

  • @jsilence418
    @jsilence418 9 років тому +2

    Fuck he is sooo good, all that stuff on " A Love Supreme" for example, what an original.

    • @BopWalk
      @BopWalk 8 років тому

      +jsilence418
      If you haven't already, listen to "Spiritual" from Live At The Villiage Vanguard" with Coltrane. He is so rythmitically advanced in that passage.

  • @3May
    @3May 3 роки тому +1

    i know all a y'all is fans, but 1979, people FORGOT him.

  • @slan7
    @slan7 10 років тому +3

    I`m hearing Morgan Freeman for some reason.

  • @yarpyarp85
    @yarpyarp85 11 років тому +1

    god i love the drums

  • @zrouth
    @zrouth 13 років тому +3

    His flow is so unstoppable. The ocean wishes she had flow like this.

  • @vernonfreeman6639
    @vernonfreeman6639 9 років тому +4

    Elvin Jones

  • @iansolo3402
    @iansolo3402 3 роки тому +1

    Dude is a fucking genius

  • @EuropaLion
    @EuropaLion 3 роки тому +1

    Harry Mack sent me here

  • @mjulio71
    @mjulio71 15 років тому +1

    This is from "Different Drummer", had it on Beta!!! These great musicians came from an era when music wasn't as cientifically dissected as it is today. I remember watching this segment and understanding immediately the Jazz form and using your imagination to improvise, whereas a lot of today's DVDs leave me cold and confused with so much meaningless math stuff.

  • @alphonsemouzon
    @alphonsemouzon 12 років тому +4

    Elvin Jones was and is still one of my drum heroes. I'm keeping his sprit alive in my playing! RIP Elvin!! TenaciousRecords.comm

    • @notgedd
      @notgedd 2 роки тому +1

      Rest in peace, Mr. Mouzon...

    • @donovanjones4175
      @donovanjones4175 Рік тому

      Alphonse, is that really you, cause my friend, you have done wonderful things too

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 8 років тому +2

    Great sounding snare.
    What's he using.

  • @luisgalvan2523
    @luisgalvan2523 5 років тому +1

    Cobham, Jones, Williams.

  • @super_coop9925
    @super_coop9925 7 років тому +3

    man what an awesome drummer!

  • @lamaludwig1470
    @lamaludwig1470 3 роки тому +1

    As easy as that...

  • @lhcunha1
    @lhcunha1 8 років тому +3

    the metal rises here

  • @Kohntarkosz
    @Kohntarkosz 6 місяців тому

    Elvin's still my favourite jazz drummer, along with Tony Williams and Jack DeJohnette.

  • @TokenYeahPunGuy
    @TokenYeahPunGuy 11 років тому +1

    His explanation before the full solo really makes his heavy Gene Krupa influence more apparent. It's amazing to hear how him and Max all drew certain things from Gene (Elvin said his comping style was an attempt to incorporate Gene's rolling triplet phrases with the cymbal pattern) and how, later, Tony took Elvin and Max's interpretations of Gene's phrasing to an even more esoteric place. Really cool video.

  • @baTonkaTruck
    @baTonkaTruck 11 років тому +1

    "If we understand the melody, then we can understand how that rhythmic phrase can be developed." That's what makes him so great. As Jimmy Chamberlin said in praise of guys like Elvin, Moon, Tony, "They were all great listeners."

  • @adelhartreisig9020
    @adelhartreisig9020 3 роки тому

    Elvin is like a drumming god, in fact he is the god of drumming, it's like hearing original man calling out from Africa, "over here!" Or perhaps, "over there!" What a genius, the Nelson Mandela of drums, liberating other drummers from Robben Island, navigating us past the Great Whites. Mother Theresa has got shit on Elvin, selfish b...

  • @theultimategamer213
    @theultimategamer213 7 років тому +1

    do people think that polythyrhms don't have to be in different multiple time signatures?

  • @CHABIEPORTNOY
    @CHABIEPORTNOY 3 роки тому

    Elvin’s voice sounds like morgan freeman almost

  • @Imupoffathatthing
    @Imupoffathatthing 13 років тому +1

    ''And let's see how... and let's see how that...let's see how that, how that, how that develops''

  • @maxpowers111
    @maxpowers111 3 роки тому +1

    Dave Chapelle looks and sound like Elvin Jones.

  • @Greekmustard666
    @Greekmustard666 14 років тому +1

    he kinda sounds like morgan freeman
    i've been drumming for only about 5 months and I am just blown away by this guy, he is so impressive and knows everything about it, i wanna be like that some day

  • @roadrocket7
    @roadrocket7 15 років тому +1

    As only Elvin can do it...Makes it look so
    simple, but then, all HELL breaks loose!
    What a totally original musician. Nobody
    played like that til Elvin hit the scene.

  • @eprado91
    @eprado91 10 років тому

    Anybody else thinks the interviewer looks like Bill Ward from Black Sabbath?

  • @manysnakes
    @manysnakes 15 років тому +1

    I agree. Hearing his voice is a sort of revelation to me. He's as calm, cool and insightful as I should have guessed he'd be.

  • @fredrictengstrom9522
    @fredrictengstrom9522 Місяць тому

    I am a pianist.You never get better than your drummer and bass player.I front.they keep and adds the beat.Thank you for this upload

  • @shealinbanta4169
    @shealinbanta4169 3 роки тому +1

    I would love to learn how to play like Elvin Jones

  • @magugreech
    @magugreech 13 років тому

    @XxSharkBatexX Here is where the slayer guys got the inspiration! xDDDDDDDD

  • @uriangatobataclan
    @uriangatobataclan 16 років тому +1

    Man! Lovely tunning!!! His and Max's are some of my favorite tunnigs... So Much to learn... and so short time to live...

  • @antonioduverge3558
    @antonioduverge3558 3 роки тому +1

    That was like seen a jet plane taking off!

  • @jakeenan
    @jakeenan 12 років тому

    "Who is the best?"....Yeah its a redundant & almost childish question/debate. But you know what? We can't help ourselves. Hahaha In place of saying: he or she plays like a motherf**ker, nobody gets me off like this cat does, they are my favourite at the moment....we just resort to the 'best' statement. We think we'll grow out of that sh*t but we actually enjoy it too much....and sometimes, we manage to convert or turn people onto the music that we've invested so much time on....so job done.

  • @xuanfengtui
    @xuanfengtui 12 років тому

    basically, yeah. its like a horn solo before bepop. you loosely base what you play on the melody of the song, so you'll hear bits and pieces of it, but it may be re-phrased, and varied quite a bit but its still there. if you listen closely enough, you can still hear the basic rhythm of the melody elvin first played, when he starts really getting after it, but at that point, it exists more in phrasing and rhythmic cues.

  • @donrenato
    @donrenato 13 років тому

    As far as Elvin versus Buddy....well I read a story somewhere about this.......Louie Bellson and Buddy both going to see Elvin play with Coltrane......these guys all admired each other equally......I think this whole "who is the best" thing is silly in music...maybe in sports......where there is a winner and a loser.....personally I don't think music works that way......there is room for everyone.......Elvin, Buddy.....both amazing drummers...both totally different. I saw Elvin in Boston a lot.

  • @evensteve284
    @evensteve284 13 років тому

    @cragnog Thanks for your input, but I’m sticking w/ what I said: There’s nothing “douchey” about “playing the song, & not just your instrument.” U don't have 2 ALWAYS get under what is going on. If YOU”RE what happens 2 B what’s going on at that moment, then people should be getting under YOU! I almost never hear people playing TOGETHER anymore. It’s almost always a bunch of players (musicians?) all playing as loud as they can. It’s MORE ME all the time, & the hell w/ the song. Cheers

  • @evensteve284
    @evensteve284 15 років тому

    Notice the VOLUME? The old school guys had to be able to "get under" acoustic instruments and still have power and excitement. That's called MUSICIANSHIP Ensemble, Dynamics. I often call it playing the song and not just your instrument. I ask people to do this I get either dumbfounded looks, or contempt. When I play my electric bass, I have an amp & I can get pretty damn loud if I want. But Im always trying to stay under whatever is going on. Anybody else have this problem?

  • @evensteve284
    @evensteve284 15 років тому

    hey dieyoung don't worry about it. Keep trying and you'll get it. And when you do, you'll be richer by far. There are many things in music that I don't and didn't understand. But every time my ears and mind opened up a little, many other things fell in place and I'm a child again. When you finally do get this - and you will! - you will hear music that was always there waiting for you.

  • @sliccmoufschalaa
    @sliccmoufschalaa 13 років тому

    @evensteve284 You are so right...even when ppl agree to jus jam it always ends with everybody talking over each other...believe it or not this happens in gospel music today too...anyway this is an awesome vid...I challenge anyone that plays to giv it a try...I got my first sticks at the age of 2 and I still cant play like elvin jones!!

  • @OropherThranduil
    @OropherThranduil 13 років тому

    And there are guys who think John Bonham was original, despite doing nothing but playing stuff those legends palyefd 10 years before.
    Ringo Starr, THAT'S a talented rock drummer, doing what nobody else did.
    creating fills so weird in their perfection that nobody else would ever come up with them.

  • @MetricMod
    @MetricMod 13 років тому

    To the naysayers of anyone at the level of Buddy or Elvin, I say this: Do the work. Stop coming on here and bitching about something very few ever understand. Both offered something completely different. Both were amazing at what they did. Now go DO! GO PLAY!!! ッ

  • @gowbass
    @gowbass 14 років тому

    @dieyoung the form is AABA...learn the song and listen to him play a complete performance of the song (melody, solos, his solo, etc...) and you will find it. Elvin is a very melodious drummer. The melody is always inherent in his playing (in comping and soloing).

  • @michaelhintongtr
    @michaelhintongtr 12 років тому

    the best that any musician can be is 'among the greats'. People can have their opinions/favorites, but it's silly to say that someone is the best. We all have our own preferences...Everyone I've seen mentioned is 'among the greats'.

  • @Chase0106
    @Chase0106 14 років тому

    @gostu I think you are right in a sense, but only because it is second nature. He knows the melody, and has played so much he doesn't need to count beats, they are there. He has such good pulse. If my met wasn't broken I would test it, haha.

  • @JoeyvanLeeuwen
    @JoeyvanLeeuwen 15 років тому

    I think it's 8th notes with flams for accents, but I'm not sure.

  • @Dr.Tsaou_
    @Dr.Tsaou_ 12 років тому

    Dude...If only people were arguing about elvin and buddy...I was arguing with people today about wether NEIL PART is the best drummer of all times!!! YES! YOU HEARD RIGHT!!! I almost got cancer by their arguments...

  • @OropherThranduil
    @OropherThranduil 12 років тому

    @epasurr
    no, i'm not, he was loud, he was fast, and he brought stuff into rock other genres used years before, and the man had power.
    but many just overrate his inventiveness not knowing about nohams influences.

  • @alvistd2168
    @alvistd2168 Рік тому

    cant understand what he's doing (but I like it) was able to see him at a Yale "live" -He was a Master

  • @sazarod
    @sazarod 6 років тому +1

    my left ear really liked the video

  • @beaulc
    @beaulc 14 років тому

    @gostu if you hear the melody it isn't always necessary to count. I think elvin always knew where he was in the bar but the melody took him where he needed to go.

  • @tulrob
    @tulrob 13 років тому +1

    Elvin was and is the most amazing melodic drummer ever!!!!!EVER RIP!!! R Tullius

  • @GK-rw2op
    @GK-rw2op 3 роки тому

    Would have been nice to hear the melody he's talking about first

  • @torunbass2483
    @torunbass2483 2 роки тому

    ”Three Card Molly” isn’t it? I like this song!

  • @adzug
    @adzug 14 років тому

    i feel like he cudda been talkin bout how to cook french toast. kinda like " this is how it is, or how you do it"

  • @Bosphorus92
    @Bosphorus92 14 років тому

    i don't think falling asleep is a good thing! really, think about it, if you fall asleep, then he is boring you

  • @larkydozer
    @larkydozer 14 років тому

    Interesting.
    I don't do that... I just make weird sounds. Sort of annoying if I ever record.

  • @KIDDVIDD
    @KIDDVIDD 2 роки тому

    Harry Mack brought me here.

  • @nancydrew5
    @nancydrew5 13 років тому

    @jetfreak4 Have you heard Lyndon Rochelle' he comes pretty close! But yeah Elvin is bad!

  • @metalmasher
    @metalmasher 15 років тому

    That is actually a "moleskin pad" which was one used before there was Falam pads and such.