Great comparison there. So in Australia you have a Hilux ute with lite tray full of tools. In Ireland you have a bucket of tools in the back of the family sedan. In the US of A you have a semi trailer, a warehouse full of materials and tools along with an assortment of track machines and a 5000 acre property to put it all on.
Yeah.... But also a comparison between contractor and single operator. Not the point of the video. I could show you contractors over here who have trucks full of equipment too. It literally boggles the mind how complex some outfits are.
I work on the english and scottish side of the border in the UK. I will have to show you guys what we have in our bucket. Its funny to see how all 3 are similar to us. Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Great video Tim. Im just about to start my first fence at home about 700mtrs worth, and I've been binge watching all your videos to learn how to start and do it properly. Cheers and keep them videos coning 👍🏼
Don’t forget those safety glasses! While peeling off some wire from the new roll, I caught a recoil in the eye once. That was the last time I left my safety glasses behind. Great video on tools for the kit. I really like the pipe case for the auger bit!
Funny thing...I watch your channel because of the simplicity and effective nature without a bunch of tools. Should of seen it coming...hats off from the United States
Wow! I love the Power Auger bit protector you made. Gotta make one for my 400mm long Auger bit. Yes,it was very expensive,and,nobody,but,nobody touches it. I saw it jammed in a post by a friend,and,ended up sacrificing the post to get my bit back. Too many people just don't understand how to use one. Small bights of the drilled hole,not full length of the bit. A poly pipe protector is great!
i know im asking randomly but does someone know of a tool to get back into an instagram account? I was stupid forgot the account password. I love any tricks you can give me
@Zayn Archer Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm trying it out atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Really interesting to see the differences in fence design from place to place. We see very little galvanized pipe fencing here in New Zealand. Some concrete posts and quite a few star pickets in the South Island due to the rocky ground. I wasn't aware it was a problem elsewhere but wooden posts here overall are of good quality. For quite some time native hardwoods like Totora (highly valuable, beautiful for carving) were used but now all the new posts are treated pine. I guess we're quite lucky in that we have a huge forestry industry here, in a small country, keeping quality good and prices ok. Most contractors here will have a post rammer but these usually connected to the three point linkage on the back of a tractor rather than a mini tank! Haha! The one tool I didn't see anybody mention that every fencer and indeed most farmers own here was a set of Eze-Pulls. I guess they are more or less useful depending on the job being done but here they are invaluable. Made by Strainrite, they are like long handled fencing pliers but have holes for staple pulling, two sizes of crimp (2.5mm HT, 4.0mm), wire cutters and also wire strippers for doing undergate cable for electric fencing and so on. They live on my tool belt and really do get a lot of use day to day. We also carry a small chainsaw which gets a lot of use cutting stay posts and holes, foots and blocks and cutting rails down to length. Thanks again for the video guys! Keep them coming!
We have some well treated posts available, but they are similar in cost to the galvanized pipe, so it makes it an easy choice in most cases. Poorly treated timber posts cost as little as 1/3 of a good one, but won't last more than a few years. I used a set of Eze-Pulls while helping a mate in Wales do a bit of tear out....Excellent tool for sure. I also keep a small chainsaw on each post driver and truck. Guess I should have mentioned that, as it's a pretty important bit of the kit. Whose tank you callin' mini? HA! Cheers.
Luke does not represent the majority of fencing done in the US. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen fencing done like that for 500 miles + around. I farm and have cows. We would go broke paying for that kind of fence. Our fencing done around here is a lot like you do there.
Brad Franklin I've never been out to represent the majority, and I'm quite happy with the slice of the population that understands the economics of quality and longevity. FWIW, we are one of the least expensive in our area, and the only ones using galvanized pipe. However, most of our DIY post sales are pipe instead of timber. Savvy consumers see the benefits, especially the ease of installation. You might be pleasantly surprised if you gave it a chance. If you don't mind, where is home for you? There may be pipe fence closer than you think. ;-)
Sorry for the late response. I am from North Central Iowa. We use creosoted post. As I reconfigure new pasture, I tear out the old fence and the creosoted post I pull out are still in decent shape. They have been there for more than 30 years because that's how long I've been here. I am not knocking the product but with all the expensive equipment you used for installation, I assumed it cost a lot. I realize there's variables but for an estimate on my fence, it is 1.70 a foot installed. That would include 1 creosoted post every 45 feet with 2 coated steel post equally spaced in between. 5 strands of 4 pronged barbed wire. A corner would require a little extra expense. Out of curiosity, what would it cost me per foot to have you install your fence? I'm subject to change
Cost for SS40 Galvanized pipe is on par with creosote posts. 30 years ago, it was much easier to get quality posts. Today, not so much. Installation requires considerably less investment in tooling, but efficient equipment is a necessity when you do it for a living. I've driven plenty of pipe with a driveall, which was built out of the scrap pile. Try that with a creosote post, and your shoulders will be mad down deep. Giving an internet price on a fluctuating commodity, such as a steel fence, is dangerous business. Keep in mind, the actual cost of a fence is the initial cost + maintenance costs divided by the lifespan. $4/ft fence that lasts 60 years is considerably cheaper than $2/ft fence that lasts only 10. SS40 pipe will outlive even the best wire, which happens to be Tornado Wire. ;-) Just my observations, so take it for what it's worth.
Luke Gibson has it down. We use almost everything he has but our post driver is a vibratory hydraulic driver rather than impact. Also, we use a Milwaukee grinder with a cut-off disc to cut staples and nails on scrap posts when removing old fence line. Makes for fast removal.
Great video Tim. I am also getting ready to do my fencing on 3 acres & found you'r video's by sheer luck. Couldn't have been better timing as my crop of yallara hay grain witch should be ready in around two month's 👍👍👍
I have also signed up to blazeaid to become a volinteer to help those devastated by the fires & am looking forward to meeting yourself & other farmers. Cheers.
Great to see difference horses for different courses. I’m more in our American cousins set up. I reckon most contractors have a great loathing for digging posts in! Still have my original Shoveholers and bar, from the early 80’s. On my sixth or seventh new post driver. Although the days of buying bigger shinier have gone. I’ve scaled back to a Protech Contractor model. Head torch is indispensable in the winter here for fencing/ feeding changing trailer tyres etc! All your videos are Bob On Tim. Love the simplicity and chilled way you teach. I’ve got a lad who works with me and I give him Tim Thomson homework to do as it’s a great aid to figuring stuff out. We watched the joiner wire test together and first thing he said was I can see you binning all the Gripples!! Well they have there uses in certain repair situations, so maybe they won’t go on E-Bay just yet! Great stuff from everyone
In America we call aussie fence pliers, fishing pliers. And strainers we call 3rd hands. Ours can be used to push, pull, and clip onto broken wire to pull together for repair.
Hello Tim , your videos are a great help and a source of information . Very simple , clear and well presented. Would you be able to do a review on the best gloves for fencing sometime. Greetings from Co. Mayo , Ireland.
i used to like trellis building in vineyards tying off wire at end posts to make vine rows, then once vines growing run out foliage lift wires. We joined wire rolls by figure of 8 on the cordon wire but had to use twisty tales for foliage wire joins as fig 8 or gripples would jam the pruning machine and only break the wire. This meant getting out the tractor to fix it in the cold night air.
American here. My gear. Barbed wire tool, pliers, Hammer, 14" bolt cutters, Fence stretcher, T post wires, U staples, sharp shooter shovel, post hole digger. The smaller bits fit in a canvus tool bag. Just replaced a few H Post with only these tools.
Gee, the Yank needs an extra truck for all that gear! But then again, he's a contractor. Most guys get away with what you have in your ute Tim. I'm just a little more organised and have a tool box for all the stuff instead of a bucket. I just don't like searching through everything to find a set of pliers ;) Have you tried those Chinese Hayes knockoff strainers Tim? Wondering if they were any good. I've had a set of Hayes for about 20 years now, still going strong.
Interesting to see Luke has an Irish made post driver on the Morooka chassis. (Luke, we usually see rubber tracked ones over here). The hand tools are fairly similar, but does your Pasload gun fire nails or staples? There is a bit of a push on here in Ireland by the importers to convert people to Clip-Ex steel fence posts, but it's early days yet.
Hi Nigel. The track machine is a Yanmar C50R, and it is on rubber tracks. It's quite a bit larger than necessary, but I didn't have much to go by when we put it together. If there was another like it in the States, I couldn't find it. I much prefer the Protech EVO machines over the old rig. The old machine weighs in at 19,000 lbs, where the EVO 1 only weighs 7,100. The Stockade gun fires barbed staples. We are a dealer for them here in the US, but your local Tornado Wire salesman should be able to help you out. (Declan Gibson, so we already know he's from a rough clan!) I am working with my colleagues in the UK to provide a viable alternative to timber posts. The Clip-Ex posts are alright, but it's been our experience that once stock producers give fixed knot netting a go, it is quickly realized that tight intermediate stake spacing with flimsy posts is not always the best practice. A substantial line stake with increased spacing is fast becoming an efficient replacement.
Farm Fence Solutions LLC. Sorry, you said Yanmar but I heard Morooka! Smaller ones available over here, popular with earthmoving hire companied on extremely unstable soils. www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/yanmar-c30r-tracked-dumper-choice/19172101
Spent an hour trying to find those pliers. Finally figured out the plier brand, maybe I wasn't the only one but it is spelled Maun. What is the model number of yours? I didn't see the Maun with the groove.
Always interesting to see how different people do the same thing different ways, with UA-cam and the Internet in general every one gets to see how every one else does what they do a different way, especially fencing, many different ways to set up a fence, with so many variables, cost, climate speed, manpower materials availability, how long will it last, what matters the most to one is off no concern to another, so many ways to do it wrong and usually more than one way to do it right, does appearance matter, are we keeping animals in, or out, maybe it's for humans not animals, hell my computer has essentially digital fences to keep out others, even though I don't do it much any more I still find it interesting, the variety, and every now and again something new.
I found a spray jacket with hood on was best protection from ticks in tea tree when it was thick. They seem to just slide off instead of into collers, cuffs etc. I even used to put a cheep Parker with hood on my dog. That way I wasn't using posibly toxic chemicals on me to keep them off. Checking for ticks is important on dogs. I used metal tweezers shaped similar to tick tweezers. For delicate places like eyelids etc oil will not allow them to breath so the remove them selves. But are still alive!!!!!!! So don't let them just drop off in the house for example. They will just bite somewhere else. My understanding is that they become dangerous to remove after a few days so if you get them early you should be fine removing them your self.
I'll throw all yall off, I call it a tanker bar! Lol, only because I used something very similar to it in the Army when I was a track mechanic. We used them for leverage pulling off the tracks and drive wheels. But I've heard it call a chisel, rock bar etc too.
I disagree with how the USA tool “bucket” is portrayed. He’s a professional fence contractor, talk to a farmer or any other average joe with a fence the kit will look a lot more like the other two. The biggest difference is simply what we call the tools!
My own kit consists of staples, spare insulators for Hotwire, my channel-lock fencing pliers, a 20oz hammer, my gloves (I work with barbed wire mainly), a post-hole digger, a post pounder (just a small one for t-posts) a fence-puller (strainers without chain) and a come-along (like the strainers but with cable instead of chain)
Hi, its holding up well, the handy thing is , its put together the opposite way to the Hayes one, so depending on whether you are straining "left to right" or "right to left" you can use the Hayes on the top strand and the Chinese on the bottom strand (8 strand sheep wire) and have both handles facing out towards you. (if that makes sense to you) I since made a clamping bar for the sheep wire, and am straining it with a Fiat 90-90 tractor when possible.
@@nigelmchugh5541 thanks for getting back to me, I have gone with an NZ brand whites fence strainer cost was $160 oz dollars the china knock off were about $50 oz dollars. I have a small 2 km run to do on a boundary fence, but in the end figure I will have it for a long time so money well spent. i would like to see the home made clamping bar, I was going to use my crow bar attached in three points, loop knots and hook it on to the 4x4 tow bar.
I've driven over a good portion of the UK. Are you saying that there is something other than the stone fences over there? :) It seemed like everywhere I went, there were the stone fences along the back roads and even through the fields. I had assumed that it was probably because the land was just naturally rocky or the rocks had been deposited by the glaciers and that the fences came about as the farmers over the years moved the rocks that they encountered while plowing to the outer edges of the fields which gave them the raw materials for the fences.
I'm looking for the name of a tool that's called a "wire puller" "chain strainer". It does the same exact thing as a tool called "Draper Fence Wire Tensioner Tool". Could be the "fence strainer" you mentioned. But the difference is the hollow pipe in my description. I believe they are used mainly for high tensel wire, but can be used with barb wire. I've found one in the barn but it's a hollow pipe maybe 3 ft long not quiet, has a chain welded to it (short), a slot and a bolt welded to it?!?! Anyone know the name? Driving me nuts that I can not find the name or the tool anywhere online!?!?!.....BTW...NEW SUB! Great content, very informative, easy instructions!
@@FarmLearningTim....Well, I have searched and searched and to no avail I could not find what I was speaking of. I have watched and watched and rewatched, your video of your chain strainers, or Hayes. I ended up buying some here in the U.S, from Pennsylvania. Can you believe that of all places, Texas the "wide open range" not a single place sells them. LOL.....anyways, they are awkward in my hands and I'm flimsy with them. I see you toss them around, set it on the wires and pull the chain with such dexterity! I know it will come with practice! Anyways, thanks for the GREAT how to videos, I've learned SOOOOOO much from you. But will be back for reviews and hopefully more videos!
@@kipper7059 I have weak hands due to age and arthritis and have found over the years that if I kink the wire where it fits into my grandmothers old strainers, it does not slip through as I tighten the strainers. Not sure if that helps.....
Wood is becoming outdated in Australia as well. At least commercially. Homesteaders I think tent to still use wood as part of that do it yourself with your own trees turned into posts kind of thing.
You fencing contractors seem to favour the chain strainers such as the Haines but I prefer the DONALD patent strainers invented in New Zealand in the 1940 or 1950s safer and easier to use mine I have been using for nearly 65 years best to use especially with barbed wire
Yeah, believe it or not most of us are closer to the bucket brigade still, with pretty much the same tools as our cousins used, than the mega engineering extreme. Not very representative of the majority of us I would think. I do like my 3 pt post hole digger, but have been 50 years without one too. On rare occasions have used 2 man powered post hole diggers, but that was for putting up some wood yard fences.
@@goatmoag Who is "us" in the majority you speak of? Farmers? Ranchers? Contractors? I fall into the contractor category, and my collection of tools and equipment is not out of the ordinary, when compared to the other fencers I've met in my travels. I would say that I have an average setup for a one man/small crew fencer. The cost of the equipment is mostly irrelevant when compared to the returns harvested. In other words, we don't shop from the front end, we want to know what the ROI is once we add a piece of equipment. So, if you can quadruple the gross sales, while increasing the net profit by 20%, it's a pay raise of about 800% without working longer and harder. Like adding a $4,000 auto level to my most recent post driver....It saves 10-15 seconds per post and achieves perfection every time. It paid for it's self in the first month, and now it makes me an extra hours pay every single day. ROI my friend, ROI. Cheers, Luke
its true what thay say, you do a great job teaching the art of fencing. However, i thought it was a very bad idea to through away your safety glasses. i hope your never regret doing that.
That American fence builder looks like he knows his stuff. Especially that wood is outdated. Only thing I've never ever heard a pair of posthole digger's called double shovel's..... must be from up North..
What you referred to as a double shovel was invented in Australia bu an elderly man had back problems when cleaning out post holes because he had trouble bending down, A lot of people over the years have copied it and tried to claim it as their invention but was first made near Melbourne in the early 1960s .
The comparison idea was great but got let down by the American fencer whose type of fencing is not an everyday job over here which also means he had over $200000 invested.
Shout out from Ireland! 🇮🇪 And no, l don't know Nigel. Yes we're a small country, but not that small!! 😂 Great idea Tim on the collaboration. I love your videos. Why? Because u are a farmer passing on info to fellow farmers. They are usually simple cheap tips that can be replicated by the likes of me! I would agree wholeheartedly with Nigel. I am disgusted with the quality of wooden stakes being sold here. So much so that I've started to look at alternatives and am using concrete stakes. Clipex will be looked at too.
Hi there Franco. My apologies for letting you down, but we were trying to show the differences in kits around the world, and I think that all we've done is demonstrate how similar they really are. I started with nothing more than a pair of diggers, and a few other hand tools in the back of a wore out pickup truck, and got along just fine. The efficiency minded post drivers didn't come along until much later. Are they expensive? Depends on what you do with them, I suppose. It actually takes very few dollars worth of equipment to construct the type of fence pictured there, but because we still build a little bit on timber posts, having larger post drivers is a necessity to stay efficient. Because of the quality issues in the timber post industry, we try to steer folks towards the galvanized pipe you see behind me in the video, but we are not the norm in this part of the country....Still plenty of timber posts being set around here. Thinking outside the box and giving new methods and materials a chance is how forward progress is made in the fencing industry. That's how we came to build a fence that costs 20% more on the front end, but will last 300% the time of a well treated timber post fence, and 1,000% the time of a poorly treated one. Like Tim says, this is about learning something for all of us, and I was glad to be invited to participate, as I learned quite a bit in the process.
Farm Fence Solutions LLC Cheers Luke, very interesting video. Throw that hand held post driver far away! I usually hire a Vector post driver from the local machinery dealer. Goes on the tractor 3 point hitch, 60 euros for a days hire, and if you have your posts laid out in line ready, you will drive hundreds in a day. Can we see the crawler one in action? Oh yeah, those post hole "double spades" are unknown here. At 8 to 12 inches you are into "channel" , a dense, yellow/grey marl type sub soil left over from glaciation, and littered with random stones. Post driver all the way! vectorpowerdrive.com Cheers, Nigel.
ua-cam.com/video/E_3GfPCMQro/v-deo.html There are a few other videos of it working on my channel, but this is the most recent. Yes, the driveall is a hated piece of equipment!
Great comparison there. So in Australia you have a Hilux ute with lite tray full of tools. In Ireland you have a bucket of tools in the back of the family sedan. In the US of A you have a semi trailer, a warehouse full of materials and tools along with an assortment of track machines and a 5000 acre property to put it all on.
Yeah.... But also a comparison between contractor and single operator. Not the point of the video. I could show you contractors over here who have trucks full of equipment too. It literally boggles the mind how complex some outfits are.
I work on the english and scottish side of the border in the UK. I will have to show you guys what we have in our bucket. Its funny to see how all 3 are similar to us. Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
It seems very complicated to build a fence in America. Glad I saw your videos first or I would never have tried.
Great video Tim. Im just about to start my first fence at home about 700mtrs worth, and I've been binge watching all your videos to learn how to start and do it properly. Cheers and keep them videos coning 👍🏼
Don’t forget those safety glasses! While peeling off some wire from the new roll, I caught a recoil in the eye once. That was the last time I left my safety glasses behind. Great video on tools for the kit. I really like the pipe case for the auger bit!
Funny thing...I watch your channel because of the simplicity and effective nature without a bunch of tools. Should of seen it coming...hats off from the United States
We overdo it like nothin' else for sure. Truth is though we probably use 3-5 of those tools for any given job.
Wow! I love the Power Auger bit protector you made. Gotta make one for my 400mm long Auger bit. Yes,it was very expensive,and,nobody,but,nobody touches it. I saw it jammed in a post by a friend,and,ended up sacrificing the post to get my bit back. Too many people just don't understand how to use one. Small bights of the drilled hole,not full length of the bit. A poly pipe protector is great!
How cool to see examples from around the world. Appreciate the time taken to show us this insight.
i know im asking randomly but does someone know of a tool to get back into an instagram account?
I was stupid forgot the account password. I love any tricks you can give me
@Titus Chase Instablaster ;)
@Zayn Archer Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm trying it out atm.
I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Zayn Archer it did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thanks so much you saved my account !
@Titus Chase No problem =)
Really interesting to see the differences in fence design from place to place. We see very little galvanized pipe fencing here in New Zealand. Some concrete posts and quite a few star pickets in the South Island due to the rocky ground. I wasn't aware it was a problem elsewhere but wooden posts here overall are of good quality. For quite some time native hardwoods like Totora (highly valuable, beautiful for carving) were used but now all the new posts are treated pine. I guess we're quite lucky in that we have a huge forestry industry here, in a small country, keeping quality good and prices ok.
Most contractors here will have a post rammer but these usually connected to the three point linkage on the back of a tractor rather than a mini tank! Haha!
The one tool I didn't see anybody mention that every fencer and indeed most farmers own here was a set of Eze-Pulls. I guess they are more or less useful depending on the job being done but here they are invaluable. Made by Strainrite, they are like long handled fencing pliers but have holes for staple pulling, two sizes of crimp (2.5mm HT, 4.0mm), wire cutters and also wire strippers for doing undergate cable for electric fencing and so on. They live on my tool belt and really do get a lot of use day to day.
We also carry a small chainsaw which gets a lot of use cutting stay posts and holes, foots and blocks and cutting rails down to length. Thanks again for the video guys! Keep them coming!
We have some well treated posts available, but they are similar in cost to the galvanized pipe, so it makes it an easy choice in most cases. Poorly treated timber posts cost as little as 1/3 of a good one, but won't last more than a few years. I used a set of Eze-Pulls while helping a mate in Wales do a bit of tear out....Excellent tool for sure. I also keep a small chainsaw on each post driver and truck. Guess I should have mentioned that, as it's a pretty important bit of the kit. Whose tank you callin' mini? HA! Cheers.
Luke does not represent the majority of fencing done in the US. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen fencing done like that for 500 miles + around. I farm and have cows. We would go broke paying for that kind of fence. Our fencing done around here is a lot like you do there.
Brad Franklin I've never been out to represent the majority, and I'm quite happy with the slice of the population that understands the economics of quality and longevity. FWIW, we are one of the least expensive in our area, and the only ones using galvanized pipe. However, most of our DIY post sales are pipe instead of timber. Savvy consumers see the benefits, especially the ease of installation. You might be pleasantly surprised if you gave it a chance. If you don't mind, where is home for you? There may be pipe fence closer than you think. ;-)
Sorry for the late response. I am from North Central Iowa. We use creosoted post. As I reconfigure new pasture, I tear out the old fence and the creosoted post I pull out are still in decent shape. They have been there for more than 30 years because that's how long I've been here. I am not knocking the product but with all the expensive equipment you used for installation, I assumed it cost a lot. I realize there's variables but for an estimate on my fence, it is 1.70 a foot installed. That would include 1 creosoted post every 45 feet with 2 coated steel post equally spaced in between. 5 strands of 4 pronged barbed wire. A corner would require a little extra expense. Out of curiosity, what would it cost me per foot to have you install your fence? I'm subject to change
Cost for SS40 Galvanized pipe is on par with creosote posts. 30 years ago, it was much easier to get quality posts. Today, not so much. Installation requires considerably less investment in tooling, but efficient equipment is a necessity when you do it for a living. I've driven plenty of pipe with a driveall, which was built out of the scrap pile. Try that with a creosote post, and your shoulders will be mad down deep. Giving an internet price on a fluctuating commodity, such as a steel fence, is dangerous business. Keep in mind, the actual cost of a fence is the initial cost + maintenance costs divided by the lifespan. $4/ft fence that lasts 60 years is considerably cheaper than $2/ft fence that lasts only 10. SS40 pipe will outlive even the best wire, which happens to be Tornado Wire. ;-)
Just my observations, so take it for what it's worth.
Luke Gibson has it down. We use almost everything he has but our post driver is a vibratory hydraulic driver rather than impact.
Also, we use a Milwaukee grinder with a cut-off disc to cut staples and nails on scrap posts when removing old fence line. Makes for fast removal.
Great video Tim. I am also getting ready to do my fencing on 3 acres & found you'r video's by sheer luck. Couldn't have been better timing as my crop of yallara hay grain witch should be ready in around two month's 👍👍👍
I have also signed up to blazeaid to become a volinteer to help those devastated by the fires & am looking forward to meeting yourself & other farmers. Cheers.
Hey mate I've seen Luke fencing big projects on other You Tube channels and he knows his stuff very good collaboration
Great to see difference horses for different courses. I’m more in our American cousins set up. I reckon most contractors have a great loathing for digging posts in! Still have my original Shoveholers and bar, from the early 80’s. On my sixth or seventh new post driver. Although the days of buying bigger shinier have gone. I’ve scaled back to a Protech Contractor model. Head torch is indispensable in the winter here for fencing/ feeding changing trailer tyres etc! All your videos are Bob On Tim. Love the simplicity and chilled way you teach. I’ve got a lad who works with me and I give him Tim Thomson homework to do as it’s a great aid to figuring stuff out. We watched the joiner wire test together and first thing he said was I can see you binning all the Gripples!! Well they have there uses in certain repair situations, so maybe they won’t go on E-Bay just yet! Great stuff from everyone
Love it. Glad to hear that my stuff passes the “contractor test” I replied to your pm the other day. Did you get it?
@@FarmLearningTim on what social media platform mate? Only msg I’ve got is from someone saying they are single and want to meet up 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😉
@@paddydunne774 😝 I can assure you that was not me. Are you the same Paddy that reached out to my Facebook page about sheep yards?
@@FarmLearningTim no sir. A different one 😉
In America we call aussie fence pliers, fishing pliers. And strainers we call 3rd hands. Ours can be used to push, pull, and clip onto broken wire to pull together for repair.
Hello Tim , your videos are a great help and a source of information . Very simple , clear and well presented.
Would you be able to do a review on the best gloves for fencing sometime.
Greetings from Co. Mayo , Ireland.
i used to like trellis building in vineyards tying off wire at end posts to make vine rows, then once vines growing run out foliage lift wires. We joined wire rolls by figure of 8 on the cordon wire but had to use twisty tales for foliage wire joins as fig 8 or gripples would jam the pruning machine and only break the wire. This meant getting out the tractor to fix it in the cold night air.
American here. My gear. Barbed wire tool, pliers, Hammer, 14" bolt cutters, Fence stretcher, T post wires, U staples, sharp shooter shovel, post hole digger. The smaller bits fit in a canvus tool bag. Just replaced a few H Post with only these tools.
Gee, the Yank needs an extra truck for all that gear! But then again, he's a contractor. Most guys get away with what you have in your ute Tim. I'm just a little more organised and have a tool box for all the stuff instead of a bucket. I just don't like searching through everything to find a set of pliers ;)
Have you tried those Chinese Hayes knockoff strainers Tim? Wondering if they were any good. I've had a set of Hayes for about 20 years now, still going strong.
Interesting to see Luke has an Irish made post driver on the Morooka chassis. (Luke, we usually see rubber tracked ones over here). The hand tools are fairly similar, but does your Pasload gun fire nails or staples?
There is a bit of a push on here in Ireland by the importers to convert people to Clip-Ex steel fence posts, but it's early days yet.
Hi Nigel. The track machine is a Yanmar C50R, and it is on rubber tracks. It's quite a bit larger than necessary, but I didn't have much to go by when we put it together. If there was another like it in the States, I couldn't find it. I much prefer the Protech EVO machines over the old rig. The old machine weighs in at 19,000 lbs, where the EVO 1 only weighs 7,100. The Stockade gun fires barbed staples. We are a dealer for them here in the US, but your local Tornado Wire salesman should be able to help you out. (Declan Gibson, so we already know he's from a rough clan!) I am working with my colleagues in the UK to provide a viable alternative to timber posts. The Clip-Ex posts are alright, but it's been our experience that once stock producers give fixed knot netting a go, it is quickly realized that tight intermediate stake spacing with flimsy posts is not always the best practice. A substantial line stake with increased spacing is fast becoming an efficient replacement.
Farm Fence Solutions LLC. Sorry, you said Yanmar but I heard Morooka! Smaller ones available over here, popular with earthmoving hire companied on extremely unstable soils.
www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/yanmar-c30r-tracked-dumper-choice/19172101
Spent an hour trying to find those pliers. Finally figured out the plier brand, maybe I wasn't the only one but it is spelled Maun.
What is the model number of yours? I didn't see the Maun with the groove.
Awsome videos sir👍 Luke Gibson is the man
I want to see the equipment used on large sheep and cattle stations.
Always interesting to see how different people do the same thing different ways, with UA-cam and the Internet in general every one gets to see how every one else does what they do a different way, especially fencing, many different ways to set up a fence, with so many variables, cost, climate speed, manpower materials availability, how long will it last, what matters the most to one is off no concern to another, so many ways to do it wrong and usually more than one way to do it right, does appearance matter, are we keeping animals in, or out, maybe it's for humans not animals, hell my computer has essentially digital fences to keep out others, even though I don't do it much any more I still find it interesting, the variety, and every now and again something new.
I found a spray jacket with hood on was best protection from ticks in tea tree when it was thick. They seem to just slide off instead of into collers, cuffs etc. I even used to put a cheep Parker with hood on my dog. That way I wasn't using posibly toxic chemicals on me to keep them off.
Checking for ticks is important on dogs. I used metal tweezers shaped similar to tick tweezers. For delicate places like eyelids etc oil will not allow them to breath so the remove them selves. But are still alive!!!!!!! So don't let them just drop off in the house for example. They will just bite somewhere else.
My understanding is that they become dangerous to remove after a few days so if you get them early you should be fine removing them your self.
Great tips. Thanks Julie!
What you call a fencing bar and Luke calls a spud bar, we (or at least l) would call a crow bar. Same thing, different name. Does the same job!
We call it a chipping bar in NZ :)
I have names for mine: Misery and Agony.
In the UK we call it a pinch bar .
In Aus I've always called it a spud bar and the bar with a chisel at one end and a point at the other a crow bar.
I'll throw all yall off, I call it a tanker bar! Lol, only because I used something very similar to it in the Army when I was a track mechanic. We used them for leverage pulling off the tracks and drive wheels. But I've heard it call a chisel, rock bar etc too.
Tim great video...is that a 1/2 inch auger bit ? And couldn’t find the pliers is it MORN? the maker. Thanks
G'day mate. I use a 10mm and a 16mm auger for gates and assemblies. The pliers are Maun, I also use Knipex cutters for wire.
Fantastic tim your covering everything i neen to know we have just bort 130 ac neen to do a lot of work thank you
You’ll love every minute I reckon
I disagree with how the USA tool “bucket” is portrayed. He’s a professional fence contractor, talk to a farmer or any other average joe with a fence the kit will look a lot more like the other two. The biggest difference is simply what we call the tools!
My own kit consists of staples, spare insulators for Hotwire, my channel-lock fencing pliers, a 20oz hammer, my gloves (I work with barbed wire mainly), a post-hole digger, a post pounder (just a small one for t-posts) a fence-puller (strainers without chain) and a come-along (like the strainers but with cable instead of chain)
Really useful to me. Thank ylou.
g-day Tim , how well do the china brand knock off`s fence strainers hold up ? the ones the Irish was using ?
Hi, its holding up well, the handy thing is , its put together the opposite way to the Hayes one, so depending on whether you are straining "left to right" or "right to left" you can use the Hayes on the top strand and the Chinese on the bottom strand (8 strand sheep wire) and have both handles facing out towards you. (if that makes sense to you)
I since made a clamping bar for the sheep wire, and am straining it with a Fiat 90-90 tractor when possible.
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@@nigelmchugh5541 thanks for getting back to me, I have gone with an NZ brand whites fence strainer cost was $160 oz dollars the china knock off were about $50 oz dollars. I have a small 2 km run to do on a boundary fence, but in the end figure I will have it for a long time so money well spent. i would like to see the home made clamping bar, I was going to use my crow bar attached in three points, loop knots and hook it on to the 4x4 tow bar.
Haha, safety glasses. Great video.
I’d add a set of ear/air buds, mobile/cell phone (with a play list).
I wish I had done you a video from the UK.
@@FarmLearningTim sounds like a plan I need to get back onto making video a
@@FarmLearningTim followed u on Insta.
You guys should do it for sure. I need to make a trip to the UK soon, so I'll be glad to heckle from the hedge row!
I've driven over a good portion of the UK. Are you saying that there is something other than the stone fences over there? :) It seemed like everywhere I went, there were the stone fences along the back roads and even through the fields. I had assumed that it was probably because the land was just naturally rocky or the rocks had been deposited by the glaciers and that the fences came about as the farmers over the years moved the rocks that they encountered while plowing to the outer edges of the fields which gave them the raw materials for the fences.
I'm looking for the name of a tool that's called a "wire puller" "chain strainer". It does the same exact thing as a tool called "Draper Fence Wire Tensioner Tool". Could be the "fence strainer" you mentioned. But the difference is the hollow pipe in my description. I believe they are used mainly for high tensel wire, but can be used with barb wire. I've found one in the barn but it's a hollow pipe maybe 3 ft long not quiet, has a chain welded to it (short), a slot and a bolt welded to it?!?! Anyone know the name? Driving me nuts that I can not find the name or the tool anywhere online!?!?!.....BTW...NEW SUB! Great content, very informative, easy instructions!
@@FarmLearningTim....Well, I have searched and searched and to no avail I could not find what I was speaking of. I have watched and watched and rewatched, your video of your chain strainers, or Hayes. I ended up buying some here in the U.S, from Pennsylvania. Can you believe that of all places, Texas the "wide open range" not a single place sells them. LOL.....anyways, they are awkward in my hands and I'm flimsy with them. I see you toss them around, set it on the wires and pull the chain with such dexterity! I know it will come with practice! Anyways, thanks for the GREAT how to videos, I've learned SOOOOOO much from you. But will be back for reviews and hopefully more videos!
@@kipper7059 I have weak hands due to age and arthritis and have found over the years that if I kink the wire where it fits into my grandmothers old strainers, it does not slip through as I tighten the strainers. Not sure if that helps.....
Wood is becoming outdated in Australia as well. At least commercially. Homesteaders I think tent to still use wood as part of that do it yourself with your own trees turned into posts kind of thing.
Enjoyed the video greatly.
Love it great video.
You fencing contractors seem to favour the chain strainers such as the Haines but I prefer the DONALD patent strainers invented in New Zealand in the 1940 or 1950s safer and easier to use mine I have been using for nearly 65 years best to use especially with barbed wire
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Australia, a bucket of tools. Ireland, a bucket of tools. America, $300,000 worth of equipment that requires a large trailer to transport. MERICA!!!!
That's an Irish made driver in the video. Just thought that'd be an interesting point to raise. ;-)
Yeah, believe it or not most of us are closer to the bucket brigade still, with pretty much the same tools as our cousins used, than the mega engineering extreme. Not very representative of the majority of us I would think. I do like my 3 pt post hole digger, but have been 50 years without one too. On rare occasions have used 2 man powered post hole diggers, but that was for putting up some wood yard fences.
@@goatmoag Who is "us" in the majority you speak of? Farmers? Ranchers? Contractors? I fall into the contractor category, and my collection of tools and equipment is not out of the ordinary, when compared to the other fencers I've met in my travels. I would say that I have an average setup for a one man/small crew fencer. The cost of the equipment is mostly irrelevant when compared to the returns harvested. In other words, we don't shop from the front end, we want to know what the ROI is once we add a piece of equipment. So, if you can quadruple the gross sales, while increasing the net profit by 20%, it's a pay raise of about 800% without working longer and harder. Like adding a $4,000 auto level to my most recent post driver....It saves 10-15 seconds per post and achieves perfection every time. It paid for it's self in the first month, and now it makes me an extra hours pay every single day. ROI my friend, ROI.
Cheers,
Luke
@@farmfencesolutionsllc Pretty much anybody who builds and or maintains their own livestock / ag type fences.
As an American that puts up fences, my fellow American might be over prepared.
its true what thay say, you do a great job teaching the art of fencing. However, i thought it was a very bad idea to through away your safety glasses. i hope your never regret doing that.
"only drive your staples 2/3's of the way in"?
Plus when ya go to pull um out it's way easier!
That American fence builder looks like he knows his stuff. Especially that wood is outdated.
Only thing I've never ever heard a pair of posthole digger's called double shovel's..... must be from up North..
What you referred to as a double shovel was invented in Australia bu an elderly man had back problems when cleaning out post holes because he had trouble bending down, A lot of people over the years have copied it and tried to claim it as their invention but was first made near Melbourne in the early 1960s .
We call them tweezers.
Got most the same stuff diggers are same and all but the new dewalt staple gun is way better and ya dont need the gas!
Ah man I'm Irish fencing contractor our tool kit nearly fills van not a blue drum ....more tools faster the job
@@FarmLearningTim just saw your comment Tim love your knots on high tensile we mostly sheep and barb hayes and strainrite are the business
The comparison idea was great but got let down by the American fencer whose type of fencing is not an everyday job over here which also means he had over $200000 invested.
Shout out from Ireland! 🇮🇪 And no, l don't know Nigel. Yes we're a small country, but not that small!! 😂
Great idea Tim on the collaboration. I love your videos. Why? Because u are a farmer passing on info to fellow farmers. They are usually simple cheap tips that can be replicated by the likes of me!
I would agree wholeheartedly with Nigel. I am disgusted with the quality of wooden stakes being sold here. So much so that I've started to look at alternatives and am using concrete stakes. Clipex will be looked at too.
So true. Knowledge is power! 👍
Hi there Franco. My apologies for letting you down, but we were trying to show the differences in kits around the world, and I think that all we've done is demonstrate how similar they really are. I started with nothing more than a pair of diggers, and a few other hand tools in the back of a wore out pickup truck, and got along just fine. The efficiency minded post drivers didn't come along until much later. Are they expensive? Depends on what you do with them, I suppose. It actually takes very few dollars worth of equipment to construct the type of fence pictured there, but because we still build a little bit on timber posts, having larger post drivers is a necessity to stay efficient. Because of the quality issues in the timber post industry, we try to steer folks towards the galvanized pipe you see behind me in the video, but we are not the norm in this part of the country....Still plenty of timber posts being set around here. Thinking outside the box and giving new methods and materials a chance is how forward progress is made in the fencing industry. That's how we came to build a fence that costs 20% more on the front end, but will last 300% the time of a well treated timber post fence, and 1,000% the time of a poorly treated one. Like Tim says, this is about learning something for all of us, and I was glad to be invited to participate, as I learned quite a bit in the process.
Farm Fence Solutions LLC Cheers Luke, very interesting video. Throw that hand held post driver far away!
I usually hire a Vector post driver from the local machinery dealer. Goes on the tractor 3 point hitch, 60 euros for a days hire, and if you have your posts laid out in line ready, you will drive hundreds in a day. Can we see the crawler one in action?
Oh yeah, those post hole "double spades" are unknown here.
At 8 to 12 inches you are into "channel" , a dense, yellow/grey marl type sub soil left over from glaciation, and littered with random stones.
Post driver all the way!
vectorpowerdrive.com
Cheers, Nigel.
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There are a few other videos of it working on my channel, but this is the most recent. Yes, the driveall is a hated piece of equipment!
Eish, the American: all he felt short, was the AR15, the . 50 caliber and the Abrahams tank.....
LOL Google subtiles gave up when we came to Ireland
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