FIRE! Bow Drill in 18th Century Style How To, with Dave Canterbury
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Dave Canterbury of The Pathfinder School shares his bow drill methods.Steve Davis,Stillwater Woodcraft,The Pathfinder School,survival,bushcraft,prepping,trekking,fishing,hunting,trapping,woodcraft,camping,flintlock,muzzleloader,knapping,primitive skills,fire,shelter,water,longhunter,colonial,navigation
This instructor is both smart and wise. I am over sixty years old and I know the difference. You would do well to watch and listen. If you have a question, is is so easy to "ask" questions on UA-cam that we forget that the questions are as important as the answers. This is the first time I have visited this site and I look forward to learning more here in the future. Thank you Mr. Canterbury.
Good stuff. Now that's what brothers are for.
Respect.
I don't care about the controversy over the dual survival show. This guy is obviously smart, well spoken and in my opinion explains survival skills better than anyone on youtube
Well said.
Mario Cohenn
I KNOW BOW DRILLING CAN BE GOOD TO YOU BBUUTT THERE IS SO MUCH WORK ON A BOW DRILLING JUST TO START A SINGLE SIMPLE FIRE...…….IN MY OPINION AND I MEAN IN MY OPINION IS THAT THEE POLYNESIANS FIRE PLOW IS LITTLE MORE FASTER AND BETTER AND A LITTLE MORE SMARTER WAY STARTING A FIRE THAN BOW DRILLING FIRE STARTERS........AND I REALLY DID COMPARED ALL THOSE BOW DRILLING FIRE DRILLINGS THESE UA-cam VIDEOS COMPARED TO THEE POLYNESIANS FIRE PLOW FIRE STARTER.....AND THERE IS NOTHING IN NORTH AMERICA CAN COMPARED AND BEAT THEE POLYNESIANS FIRE PLOW FIRE STARTER NOTHING CAN...........
Mr,Casino bro what?
Sorry to be off topic but does anyone know of a trick to get back into an instagram account?
I stupidly lost my account password. I love any help you can offer me.
Now thats a bow drill. Steve is a good man I enjoy his vids as well.
Awesome video ..Well Explained ... You make it Commonsense.. Thanks
Great to see you over on Steve's channel Dave! I really enjoyed the detail in this extended version.
Steve, Thank you for putting this awesome video up of a Bow drill fire by Dave....... I just loves how he explains every little Nuance in not only the manufacture of the set, but even the Preparation of the fire lay and the birds nest. I'll be looking forward to new video's from you too in the coming weeks. I would like to speak with you about coming and doing a rondezvous here in Iowa next year sometime soon, if you would be available.
Thank you for this WOODCRAFTER76.... and thank you Dave C. always!
So much fun to watch, it was one of those things I learned years ago,I bet I have not used a drill in 30 years as I got a steel and a hunk of fools gold, it's a good skill to have and not something you want to try and learn when you need it.
Good Job
Thanx Dave. Sorry about dual survival, politics suck you're the real deal !!!
I'm sure this is 20x harder than it looks. Like Dave said in one video, "It'll take you at least 150 bow drill fires to master it." I believe him.
Oh Okay, you are a half breed injun and you know everything!
standing bear I'd love to see a vid of your fire bag and a firestarting demo! I bet a lot of people would like to watch it. I know I can make tapa cloth like the Tahitian side of my ancestry. . . I'm mixed-ethnicity too, and sometimes I dream about all the skills my ancestors honed over the millennia. . . Please let me know if you post a vid of some of your skills, I'd love to watch.
thank you so much
great video dave, i just wanted to ask what type of knife would you recommend to have around for these types of work, that would last and be great for other activities like this? i look alot up to you man, and many who do the same outdoor life
shcmooze, that's original. XD
12:45 right there i was telling myself, holy shit , he's setting that cord way too tight on that bow, he'll never be able to twist his spindle in there.
On top of that, he's saying that he's giving himself some slack to fit the spindle in it lol. He doesn't give himself any slack at all.
Funny enough, at 13:40 there is a cut and you can easily see that he's readjusted the cord to be much much more loose.
Then at 15:56 you can clearly see exactly why you need that much slack in the cord.
I don't know why he didn't just mention his mistake and showed us how to correct it rather than try to hide it with video editing. His "so called expert" pride came back to bite him on that one.
Now all that is being topped off by him completely cutting out the one part of the video that everyone wanted to see.
The part where he actually uses the thing to create an ember.
He goes on about posture and form being everything for bow drill fire and all that crap that no one needs to hear , only to cut out the part that everyone have been waiting for.
That guy is the perfect example of people i'm not compatible with. They go on and on and on about their craft like they're absolute experts but when it comes to actually SHOWING how good they are, they make up excuses OR as you so clearly saw in this video, they simply remove their failure using video editing and simply show the end result.
I might come out as a total ass here but i'm a straight shooter. I say it like it is.
The only major thing I do differently is put the spindle to the outside of the bow string. This gives a longer range of motion because the spindle doesn't knock against the bow. I suppose this isn't a big deal with longer bows, but I like to use shorter bows because they're easier to take with you.
@@amorvincitomnia6093 Was thinking the exact same thing!
That's by far the best bow drill video I've seen so far. Thankyou!
What blows me away is that, this is what Dave is capable of, and Cody was STILL considered the FireMaster. If a guy with this much experience and knowledge looks to you for your expertise, you're truly something special.
When I first starting do this type of fire-making. I had a very hard time. I then took a fresh-water clam shell and used that as my bearing block and BOOM instant ember. Granted! The Clam shell don't last for more than 2 fires, but it works very well due to the smoothness of the shell. Hope someone uses this first if they can find a shell.
Try embedding a metal bottle top in the bearing block
@@JohnDavis-im1oy you're funny, using what's laying around all over the place. Flint and steel is my prefered method. "Cheat" LOL
@@JohnDavis-im1oy you're cheating! LOL
Filters do fail,I've backpacked the Grand Canyon rim to rim and a large paet of the AT, also numerous wilderness areas. I can speak from experience, filters do fail. Nothing replaces skills.
Oh, bearings rust and freeze up. Being you are like you are, take a bic
Great info , but don't forget the pioneers also used their black powder in their fire making process, wet conditions especially !!! But only tiny amount of powder is necessary !! These instructions are great in dry conditions !!!!
Great insightful video, stopping and taking a 5 min break to relax could make or break your attempt at making a fire. Notes taken thanks.
Why is the spindle INSIDE the bow and not outside. You'd think it would be less likely to get tangled, and have a longer travel outside the bow.
Have you tried stabbing the tip of your knife into a tree trunk before carving this kind of thing? The extra bracing from the tip being stuck in a tree really helps you get a good, light on the wrist, cut with less effort.
Oh come on! a video of 27 Minutes and the actual drill to a amber is not shown completely? Thats bad!
SurvivalSquirrel obviously you didn't pay attention, this is just a trailer for the entire vidoe on critters channel.
I have found that this guy makes the most easily understood videos on youtube. His no-nonsense down to earth demeanor and teaching style, coupled with obvious extensive knowledge and experience is unparalleled. After discovering Mr. Canterbury here about four months ago, and watching many of his videos, he has sparked something inside me that I haven't felt since I was a kid. It has renewed my love of the outdoors and nature itself. The desire to once again get out there and enjoy the simple peaceful pleasures of God's creation is overwhelming. Armed with the knowledge this man has shared I will always be grateful. Thank you ! I will pass this on to my kids for I have envisioned many wonderful memories in the coming years with them as we enjoy the great outdoors. Again, Thank You
Of course it's not as good as greasing the spindle, but rubbing the top on the sides of your nose will give you a good grease.
Another excellent educational video by Dave Cantebury! Well done.
Lots of Tulip Poplar near my campsite,but the branches grow too high to reach.Got a positive id.on them by the cup-like flower.A cedar board and tulip poplar spindle was made for me by a friend,but I'm failing at getting a coal,merely just smoke and dust.I have a way to go yet to get this means of fire starting down pat.
Hi Dave. I still missing seeing you at the Dual Survival. I loved that show. I know you're an expert on your field. You know what you are doing.!!! Keep it up!! God bless you!!!
Your the man Dave, I learned so much from your video`s can`t wait to participate in your classes. I`ve followed you from your days with Dual Survival. Thank you for your time and knowledge.
I've done 17th and 18th century lifestyles since I was 9 (I'm 32 years old now). I do mostly Native American and mountain man lifestyle. Native name is white hawk mountain man name is Irone Hyde. Lol both given to me by earning. Your videos are quite exceptional!! I'd like to discuss some things with you if you are up for it as well as possibly send you a few 18th century items I have produced. Perhaps you'd like to try them out. Keep up the good work and God bless the pathfinders
You know Dave, I think that is the first time I have ever seen your hair. I always pictured you bald, but, uh-uh, not true, and I think I know why. You look remarkably like Tommy Lee Jones. This would explain a lot. The mysterious absences, the extensive, encyclopedia of knowledge of living of the land. Yup, it all makes sense now. :-)
What a complicated technology, even if so primitive. Striking a feral rock with a quartz seems much easier. I always see participants struggle with the bow drill in survival reality shows, failing 98% of the time to start a fire. The same is true of that fish basket that simply NEVER works in the Naked and Afraid reality show. Are they using that basket the wrong way?
Thanks for this video. At the 24 minute mark you indicated that there was something amiss with the setup, but corrected it (not shown) and did not mention what the issue was. It would be good to know what it was so that we might know how to deal with a similar situation should it arise. Also around that time, the edit also did not show the actual creation of the ember, which to me is the most interesting and critical part of the process to witness. The bow method is tricky to master, and your advice on the steps to take for a successful outcome are much appreciated.
THERE IS SO MUCH LOGIC AND WORK JUST TO PUT TIME AND PATIENCE JUST TO START A LITTLE SIMPLE FIRE.....TRY TO COMPARED TO ALL OTHER UA-cam VIDEOS BOW DRILLING VS POLYNESIANS FIRE PLOW AND YOU WILL SEE THEE BIG,BIG,BIG GIANT DIFFERENCE IN THE UA-cam VIDEOS.....AND STUDY THEE VIDEO VERY,VERY CLOSE Hahahahahahahahaha
Anything that is hard work is more rewarding. There are so many lost skills it is nice to see people keeping our past alive for future generations.
HE have to do all that just to make fire hahaha...thats more work than anything...i have learn alot more different fire maiking than just a bow drills..GAIN NATILOGE.....
do you have a historical reference for using a bow drill, by whites. I know the flint and Frizzell with a piece of cheered cloth was use. Also I really doubt that anyone ever baton ed with their knife. The knives of the 1700 to 1800 were not built strong enough. I guess if a man had a squaw he might use a bow drill, if she lost her file steel. Here is a quest what Item did the Indians want to trade for, besides alcohol.
cheers.
The spindle outside the rope, as opposed to between it and the bow is better. Longer strokes, less obstacles for movement etc. But great job.
I am.watching tons of these and this is the first one where the spindle is on the inside of the bow , does it matter ?
If you are ever out in the Arizona desert, find a dead sajuaro cactus and use the dry wood. Ten good strokes to coal. That stuff is phenominal. Thanks, Dave, you are an inspiration...
The things we take for granted today. In the 18th century, making a cup of coffee took a lot of work, and if it was raining, you might not be having your coffee.
holy shit dave canterbury 2013 ! Thank god i found this channel.
took you long enough google. damn.
Always solid and candid Dave. Thank you for your time.
must have taken more than one try, or there wouldn't have been an edit there.
Lots of great tip in this video. But there are a couple of mistakes too. That bow was as wrong as they come for one. It was wrapped wrong and the cordage was way too lose.
Everything else was perfect though.
must have taken more than one try, or there wouldn't have been an edit there.
Lots of great tip in this video. But there are a couple of mistakes too. That bow was as wrong as they come for one. It was wrapped wrong and the cordage was way too lose.
Everything else was perfect though.
Miss seeing you on tv dave you're cool calm and collected, i practice many of your techniques and they have always worked as well as saved my ass a few times... keep doin what your doin man your awesome...
great video..Im hoping my son and I will make fire this next camp bump in the Ozarks
@24:00 "Go for broke" the American 442 of Japanese ancestry. God bless those guys
you skipped the best part of the video WTF? you doing the work to get the fire....
Outstanding video. I learned more in 27 minutes than all I've read about the subject.
It took a lot of effort to put this video out I'm sure. I appreciate you sharing this with us for free. Thank you Pathfinder School.
Dave I live in ky and have always been told that the humidity here is too bad too do friction fire is there any truth too that I know your up in Ohio so maybe you know if there is a friction fire method that will work here
awsome only thing i would add is: for soft weaker wood make the spindle wider than a quarter, and for strong wood make it smaller.
I don't want no %#@() FOPP i am a dapperdanman #%&&@**&% LOL. great video as always. All the best
Couldn’t you just start with a piece of a limb for the spindle and not have to whittle as much off?
Here is a good hint... to make Your fine tinder get two rocks and smash it into smaller fibers only takes a few minutes.
Wel ldone, a smokeless flame so the English cant spot you :-)
Well then, I apologize for my blatant, over-opinionated, comment, no offense was intended. I have seen your other videos on the topic of friction fire, in fact, I have seen nearly all of the videos on your channel and I think you're a top notch instructor, so I know that you can succeed when pursuing an ember. I will remove my previous comment and substitute it with the following; Bravo, another excellent video.
I think I need to add a upholstery tack to my fire kit for the top of the spindle.
I can tell you from personal experience poplar is a poor 2nd compared to slightly rotten willow.
Found the answer in Dave's video "Bow Drill from Woods to Ember" near 24:50. The spindle position depends if your a Right or Left handed person.
I would love to hear the story of how Steve and Dave became friends. If I am right Steve is from the south. Dave is from Ohio.
I think that story might be book worthy.
It is kind of like Daniel Boone meeting ....well, Dave and all his cameras and fame from Dual Survival.
Enquiring minds want to know.
Very Sorry Critr! I didn't know you had your own channel brother! Im always looking forward to your 18th century vids on Daves channel, and never knew you had this channel for yourself! Instantly Subscirbed! I got a huge smile when I heard Dave say you had a channel, lol
Thanks,
Tommy
All I have around me for tree species is Jack Pine. I know Dave says the species doesn't matter, but I have a feeling that the pine resins in the wood will make for a poor bow drill set. I guess there's only one way to know for sure! To the woods!
i have to use the plow here in OKC. it is sub tropical. humidity always wins.
Hey Man great channel! Liked and Sub'd! :)
Our black locust has a dark center like that. Is that a similar hardness?
Do you have any recommendations for a good quality Kentucky long rifle flint lock kit? I'm keen to build one. Is the musket in this video considered a KLR?
24:22
Never explained the bark-looking sheet under the fireboard, never talks about exactly what the "ember" is. Piece of the fireboard, something you added, the bark caught on fire, what? Also, how long did he have to work the spindle to get the ember. Fast-forwarded past and through the most important details of the whole video I've been watching for 24:00 minutes, WTF.
+Proxy manson Proxyman
looks like a piece of leather to catch the ember?
6:48 a wood chip hit me in the eye dave.sheesh.
23:27
Duh. If you have a "powder horn" that means you have powder (duh) and also somewhere FLINT and (here's the point) why would you waste all this time with a bow and spindle to start a fire, when you could spark off some powder, duh HELLO?
The idea is to recreate a way of making a fire the old way. Man invented several way s of creating fire. The most momentous was the invention of matches at the end of the trials.
One of the best videos I have seen on bow drills, if not the best...... thanks
Just a quick note. If you don't have or have run out of wax to lube your barring board, green grass or leaves work good in a pinch.
check out "survival skills with russ" also a great instructional vid.
its a shame hes not anymore with cody together in the team the producers should be left in a lonely forest for 2 years
I doubt the producers question his abilities, I think they just feared that the ratings might suffer because of viewer distrust.
I guess, that is if you could stomach Cody bare foot week after week ? Even when he would jeopardize getting out because he refused to put shoes on and could verily move because of thorns,snow or what ever. Along with other things.
Methodically well explained ....in a relaxed way. Thanks.
Great video, as usual, but he left out the very important part about starting off slower to collect combustible dust, then faster at the end to start an ember. This is the most challenging part for me. Otherwise, you get black dust that's already burnt up and can't produce an ember.
Yes, getting a good pile of dust is important and in my opinion typically underemphasised when teaching bowdrilling. Keyhole method is my preference for this reason. Sometimes I'll even do the subsequent attempts in a semi-circle around the first hole to really fill it with a lot of dust if things are being especially difficult. Really gets a good pile for the eventual ember to get established into. Works very well for damp wood, acts as drying cycles for the dust and hearth and spindle to heat them that many times and then take brief breaks in between like that.
you skipped over the most important part! creating the ember
Grease up the spindle under with the from around your nose and ears.
After all that didn’t show the ember or what to do with it🤦♂️
Well done good man. The more I hurry the longer it takes.
The knot for the baring block was cool I use a smooth rock with a divot works like a dream
thank you so much for your help it will help me and others great job
Frame type 'Whatting' saws? At 3:05, It sounded like you said',,,ummm' LOL
bucking saw or bucksaw
I thought you were a lefty. It's even more impressive if you did this right handed.
I'll have to try a bowdrill out of a cowcumber tree
I'm a white water longhunter! who the hell are you?!
Knee breeches and combat boots...gigity.
if you had powder could you hit it with a spark to start a fire???
What's the rectangle pad made from?
love the socks dave. Trevor from Pa
Cause thats where the string that you wrap around it is?
oh yes, because everybody carries a powder horn around with them
I' not a city guy haha
Um......why are you using Dave's content for your channel???
if you pay attention to the first couple minutes he clearly explains he made this video for my channel.
You're an awesome teacher. Thank you!
Your the best Dave.
Great Video.
Why do you like the spindle on the inside of the bow ?
I like this guy. He is working here really.