As a patient with anxiety I immediately feel like a burden tbh. No one wants to be a nuisance but I fear I'm immediately perceived as someone who would likely take up too much of their limited time. I can sense when they're pushed for time as it is, let alone if I happen to struggle during an appointment (I do try my best, and try numerous things to stop panicking). That said, even when things go to plan theres no time to discuss your treatment properly and you always leave with unanswered questions, and in my case, untreated problems. This government seems only to happy to tax you as much as possible, yet fail to look after you.. or treat those there to look after you fairly. Quite a messed up system.
This is seriously insightful. It sucks the NHS is losing a dentist like you. Lets hope we (the country) can get out act together. Off topic the video you did about brushing your teeth properly. Was really useful it really does make a difference. So thank you
@@sarakhreawish6322 how many sugars would you like in you veg soup dear? Lol😂 hard to eat sugar free these days when u get added sugar in things like baked beans, gravy even mushy peas have added sugar
I'm motivated but my dentist isn't. He just wants to remove my teeth. I flew to Paphos, Cyprus and had 3 lots of laser treatment for €250 and a deep manual clean on one tooth €20. My UK NHS had a schedule to remove 3 teeth. My Cyprus dentist saved them. We saw a doctor and physio too for my husband's back troubles and other troubles- no chance in the UK. Bonus... we had a lovely holiday topping up our vitamin D 🌞 levels too. 2022 it's desperate in the UK for dentists and doctors. The system is broke. Private doesn't fix it either because money and profit takes over.
@@yvonnerout7319 it's the current government's plan and been their goal for decades. The Tories voted against the NHS a number of times from 1945. Privatisation and greed is their mantra and is why people are struggling today.
Not quite the case as a dentist gives up earning a salary for 5 years. But don't worry, most (like nurses) don't even bother pursuing the profession anymore. As the dentist in the vid says the great British public don't value their teeth. The overheads for a practice are enormous. It's just not worth it and I gave up and now work as a housekeeper in a eco-spa. Much more enjoyable. I just laugh my head off when I listen to the British public complaining. The average salary of a dentist in the UK is £66k. Sounds good but take all the bits out. ARF, cpd days, MDU insurance blah blah., Better off being CEO for Thames Water. Zero qualifications to pump sewage into the sea... £1.5 million/year salary. Google it.
Sorry there skippy, I'm wrong, Avg salary today is 'Cut n Paste: 'The overall average dentist's salary in the UK is £50,838. This figure is based on data from PayScale's salary survey of dental professionals in the UK'. Better off working as a plumber.
This sort of treatment is not available on the NHS. That was probably why they didn't do it. You were perfectly welcome to consult a specialist privately as you did.
I find dentistry in the UK going back to IXX century and tooth removal, unskilled, poorly trained, ill-equipped not able to perform root canals, focusing on private dentistry to generate the income.
@@BBrunswick it's not cuting corners it's malpractice, I got told 1.5 mm to the nerve is not enough to preform root canal, wich is light years for a qualified dentisit.
@@admonster11 agreed. That is what X-rays are there for. Imagine your knee is shot. Option a: chop your leg off Option b: reconstruct it Both outcomes no pain (ideally) Sounds familiar?
@@BBrunswick It does, I did have tooth gangrene half of the molar cracked during the first lockdown. I went to one dentist got a quote for £1500, a second emergency visit cost just £20 but ended up getting told 1.5 mm its too much and the nerve can be damaged, but If I go 10min around the corner away and pay £800 privately, ended up haggling for root canal for £450 but when I asked if they have a microscope to do it, the answer was, we have a magnifying glass. Finally ended up going to Poland for treatment spending £1000 with Airbnb and tickets, and doing all the teeth that needed the treatment. The molar in question was done with microscope and rebuild with glass fibre filling for £300. I'm still a bit upset about being left in the cold having tooth gangrene.
@@admonster11 the running costs of a surgery in the UK are horrendous. Everybody takes cut. By Polish standards a dentist is well paid in Poland. In the US dentistry is far more expensive than in the UK for the same reasons. I would imagine dental indemnity costs a fortune out there.
I soo like what you said in the end , that with all due respect to patients who really take the advice , but honestly a lot of them just think that coming for regular check ups and taking time and slots with repetitive check ups but do nothing to prevent at home , is the answer . A lot of in pain patients wont be able to see a dentist while registered patients keep coming for problems that they didnot take any advice into account , poor oral hygiene and less and less motivation , this also contribute to less performance and less patients to be able to attend . Aside from the other points you mentioned which are so true and I cant thank you enough for pointing them out .
Ever tried getting root canal work done on the NHS, minimum wait for an appointment is 4 months, most dentists don't even accept root canal NHS patients. Blame the Tory cuts not the dentists.
The UDA system was introduced in 2006 under a Labour Government. It was unmitigated disaster and discouraged dentists working on the NHS doing extensive work including root canal work on molars
Truth is all they do is fart about demanding more money if that's the case they should be struck off and made to get a new job we need people with passion not with £ signs in their eyes
@@d.t.o6128 rule of thumb in multiple choice questions: Answers with always or never are very rarely correct. While some dentists only have £ signs on their mind, many feel that their remuneration should reflect the resources and time invested into a procedure. That also includes experience but not costs like rent, staff and other overheads. Dentists are self employed. While I understand the frustration of patients and can see how some colleagues act dishonourably I also feel the picture is much more nuanced.
Great video! I made the difficult decision not to go into dentistry recently because of the current state of the NHS system and the effect it's having on those that work in it. A BDA survey published in 2019 of roughly 2000 dentists revealed that nearly 50% of them can't cope with the pressure they're under, with higher stress levels being linked with increasing NHS workload. It also pointed towards a higher-than-average rate of suicidal ideation. Key reasons for this include growing regulation and litigation fears. There are also a number of UK studies showing that approximately 70% of dentists experience back pain, with high numbers also suffering sleeping difficulties, headaches and teeth grinding. Dentistry exacts a heavy physical toll and the number of patients crammed into the average working day in an NHS setting in order to reach UDA targets doesn't help! I only hope that the NHS contract is reformed soon.
You're doing a service to this country by being transparent about this. Thank you. There is very little education about Oral Health and the Dentistry that goes on. I believe a mixture of Payment plans and education about Oral Health would make it beneficial to people. The amount of subscriptions we pay on things now is ridiculous, surely we can pay towards healthcare now instead.
What’s the alternative to NHS? Could we get our own insurance & do it that way & get treated privately or is that not possible and would we just pay upfront costs to a private clinic? (even if the option to pay monthly was there)... my surgery is jam packed to the rafters with NHS patients, there’s no parking and the only option within 5-10 miles of my address says ‘Accepting NHS patients by referral only’, which means what exactly?
Hi Emma, sorry I have only just picked up your comment. Yes you can get insurance through various companies like simply health and BUPA, but you will have to check each policy carefully because there are limits to how much you can claim etc. Sometimes you have to pay the private practice upfront then claim it back through insurance. Many private practices have membership plans where you pay £x per month and it includes your check ups and cleanings and a discount off treatment.
I work in a Crown and Bridge lab and since the pandemic we have seen a massive reduction in the quantity of work coming in. Initially we put it down to a lack of patients willing to return to visits to surgery and surgery restrictions but would have thought most of that would be over now. Do you have any thoughts on why we are still affected so badly? Thanks
I’m a Private Dentist (Lincolnshire). From what I can gather, the main NHS corporate down the road is still restricting its activity to emergency treatment only. In the Private world we’ve gone back to ‘normal’ albeit still running with some changes due to seeing more new patients discarded by the NHS. Also we’ve had to increase our fees slightly due to inflation. Seems to me the Dental professional overall has been historically systematically abused by the NHS authorities and even more so during the pandemic.
I’m a dual qualified dental hygienist/therapist. I practiced dentistry for over a decade before leaving the profession a few years ago. I didn’t feel valued by the profession, and over time it became almost impossible to find work. It didn’t even pay the bills in the end. Maybe I’ll decide to climb a different ladder, but there is absolutely no way I would go back to dentistry.
TACTLESS - UK product vids for deaf & dyslexic ppl There’s just as many male dentists/hygienists-therapists as female. Many years ago the profession was probably more male dominated. Nowadays universities/dental schools are more diverse.
@@Hurrehurra assuming they work full time for their average salary. Most hygienists and therapists are self employed and work between practices. When the new NHS contract in England and Wales came into effect some years ago now with the UDA system, it was no longer cost effective for NHS practices to have a hygienist or therapist, so you just had to try and build sessions up in private practice which isn't easy. Theres simply no stable postions available for hygienists and therapists, and to be honest the culture within the profession leaves little to be desired.
Carl G wow. thanks for the insight. From what i researched it seemed like a very good career pathway with lots of opportunities and prospects. is the degree useful for places like australia which i heard has many opportunities? a potential career abroad may be in the horizon☺
Thanks for this my dad was a dentist and I used to work in the surgery while at UNI the problem with contrats then was every NHS patients had to pay the first £17.50 which wasn’t fair on patients who needed less work because they attended more Though denplan was a start up back then but the amount of cash given to them was so high because magret T tried to stop NHS and put Denplan in its place
Hiya could you possibly do a Q&A type of video or a video describing how to get into dentistry particularly/what they look for and tips for developing your P.S. I am currently doing GCSEs and I would love some advice as I don’t know anyone who has gone into dentistry/vet/medicine.
Try to do lots of work experience with dentists who work in standard NHS but also specialists practices. And speak to them about how they truly deal with the day to day struggles and stress. Get a real feel for what the job involves. Not the glitz and the glamour side only which most dental students focus on. Learn the role of the nurse and receptionist and how together they make or break how the day goes. Learn some basics of infection control, communication with patients and the dental team Complaints handling GDC Standards CQC role Do that and not only will you know if dentistry is for you but also great preparation for applications and interviews
A Dentist I was shadowing told me that reforms are being made to NHS Dentistry which will be aimed towards prevention based care and is based off something called 'The Steele Report'. Did i miss understand him or are you also aware of this?
We were supposed to get a new contract years ago, and now it is not expected for another few years. They have had pilots for a while now but nothing implemented as such yet. A lot of dentists have already left NHS, and I know a lot more would leave if they could (but NHS does give you a secure income whereas private your income could drop dramatically).
@@lashantilove6486 In private practice your income usually depends on the number of patients you see and the difficulty/expense of the procedures you do. Your income could be reduced your patient numbers or procedures lead you to earn less than with NHS.
Right now, very likely (due to the pandemic). Under normal circumstances, your income it depends on your skills, speed and number of procedures performed in private practice. The more experience you gain increases these factors, so you will find your salary increasing over the years.
Years ago, I was meant to have braces as a kid. But it never happened. I was refused. And now as a result I have a severe overbite and have constant problems with pain and keeping certain areas clean, I brush 3 times a day, floss etc and none of that makes a difference. I also now have receeding gums as a result of pressure. I have to live with this for the rest of my life or be financially screwed all because the NHS isn't fit for purpose. I can't even see a dentist now, I've been living with an abscess for over a year.
That still doesn’t justify charging £95 for a child’s checkup and £110 for adults which is going rate in my area not to mention dentists in my area have been insisting on payment on booking for last 2years which is understandable really iv discovered that getting treatment abroad is cheaper that includes flights and hotel might as well make a holiday out of it
I on benefits I cannot get registered to dentist I tried also private but trouble is too expensive talking £300 to £1000 to extract a tooth I need three extracted and the private expect people pay full on the day it’s disgusting there isn’t a insurance that could help pay bill full either. I think there should be a dentist insurance so can pay to per monthly if registered to private so large bills be covered
I have been an NHS patient all my life. I recently had problems and it was to be a 7 week wait for my 1st appointment! Despite being entitled to free dentistry on the NHS due to illness, I had no option but to go private and pay. All I can say is that I wish I had done this before. Between being treated like a 'person' and not a number has been worth paying for just for that. Fortunately my Dentist will accept some of the cost on the NHS, but I actually look forward to each appointment. Maybe the Americans have the right idea... (Can't believe I just said that, but from my experience, can you afford not to go private?)
Hi Davidson, I have many patients like yourself who are fed up with the service they receive on the NHS. It is an overstretched and underfunded service, and the government tell everyone they are entitled to all this treatment yet don't provide enough funds for dentists to be able to deliver it...effectively. So unfortunately many patients end up suffering waiting weeks for appointments.
1:40 And what she didn’t mention is that they don’t really spend that longer time on patients ... what they do is they lie to patients all sorts of things to do the treatment with the maximum uda’s or with the minimum effort which is EXTRACTION. Its sad but thats what they are forced to do.
I went private because I needed a dentist. I'm more bothered about keeping teeth for asking as long as possible than paying for over priced cosmetic procedures. Your teeth will wear out and eventually you will end up with dentures.
Salaried dentists employed by the NHS, working mainly with community dental services, earn a basic salary of between £43,019 and £92,013. The nation is in a dental crisis. But apparently its not enough for these people.
I had molar tooth extraction last year and still having pain at same place. I don't trust my current dentist as they say I have infection in other molar next to my extraction. How can they say without doing any Xray ? They say that infected molar needs to be removed. I don't know but I don't trust them so I rang NHS111 but they didn't do anything. Don't know what to do? How to get referral to see other dental specialist. If anyone please help me.
I don't see how any dentist wouldn't be able to make NHS targets... NHS waiting lists are nearly 9 months in all the practicing around my area. Even the surrounding areas have long waiting lists. I'm very lucky I can afford to go private but even then, if I don't want certain things like root canals ect I feel like I'm pressured into getting them.
Simple - you have a target to fulfil - say x number of completed treatment plans. However each plan takes on average several appointments to complete and some of those are lengthy. So while you are busy with patients, you don’t complete many treatment plans. On top much of your time is taken up by doing admin. Result: you underperform and the Health Authority claws back payments.
its ok saying you can spend more time with your patients but thats only if they can afford to see you if your not on benifits how are you supposed to pay for expensive treatment
The real crisis is the number of people living in pain who can't get their teeth sorted out. Their pain levels are something far worse to live with than any dentists' stress levels. People have started pulling their own teeth out now and a big part of that is how much dentists charge, not just being unable to find an NHS dentist. It's the combination of the two.
Why NHS dentists not talking about the suger tax !! NHS Dentistry needs more funds directly from Manufacturers of soft drinks containing more than 5g of sugar per 100ml have been made to pay a levy of 18p a litre to the Treasury, or 24p a litre for sugar content over 8g per 100ml, since the tax came into force in April 2018.The latest figure of 21,544 NHS dentists in England is the lowest for a decade, with acute shortages in counties including Lincolnshire and Norfolk. In Thurrock, Essex, just 26.1% of adults and 30.7% of children have seen a dentist in the past two years. Figures in several other areas are not much better
WTF am I paying for? Can I apply for a rebate on my national insurance for zero dental care. I am private now and after cracking a tooth on a rock hard peanut, treatment has cost just over £1200 so far. Absolutely crippling.
Patients don't know the fact that grouped treatment is unfairly giving you more work, if you were to explain this to your patients I'm sure they would be willing to receive their treatment in several procedures- which is the wrong way to solve this problem. But the end goal is to get more people using/ receiving the treatment through the NHS as we pay for within our taxes, its wrong for us to have to go down private routes because the government has purposefully 'broken the machine'. We need more people pressuring the government to co-operate, how do we do this?
Regardless if the treatment is grouped or over several procedures dentists are only remunerated for the completed course of treatment. When this is hard is when patients haven't attended regularly and there's 20 years of work to do in one course of treatment. Which means that if dentists took this on there would be less time / resources to treat others. The NHS system works well when patients are well maintained and attending regularly for preventative care. But access is poor and there are many nervous patients who delay treatment until they're in pain which actually means more complex treatment is often required.
@@YourSmileClinic how about the government offering payment from nhs funds to private dentist struggling to find patients, for patients who have years of built up work that needs treating? Im just trying to wrap my head around this current shortage/turn away of nhs dentists, this video help a little thank you.
@@YourSmileClinic i mean these private dentist would have to show a decrease in patients to be able to apply for the patients that have been severely back logged in the nhs system. I am honestly worried the nhs system (especially the dentists) will collapse over the next couple years if the incentives for becoming and maintaining it continues to fail :-(
Jimmy Steele was never a general dental practitioner in his life. he was an academic , and only used 1 tenth of his time on actual patients. it is a travesty to allow this person to dictate policy to a profession he is alien to. regarding prevention. the approach should be to educate all socio economic levels of society, aid the poorer sections of society with lots of education. use media. help the poorer people.
So instead of being a regular 9-to-5 dentist he was on the bleeding edge of patient care and treatment. Professions don’t stand still. Technology and medicine changes over time. This is like saying it would be a travesty to let Richard Dawkins influence biology teaching because he’s “only” and academic - he doesn’t teach children 5 days a week.. so what does he know, right ? 🙄
Private dentist ever heard of dental life insurance talking £300 to £1000 for a tooth extraction that’s a huge bill for those on benefits and no free NHS dentist free
Isn't setting targets like this encouraging Bad dentists to rush through NHS patients?. I have just had full dentures fitted and I was amazed at the speed it all happened?, teeth that broke were just left in?, I had my lower denture last week without having an impression made?? , the appointment that I would have had to make the impression was taken up when I had to have further surgery after a tooth was broken off and just left in on the previous appointment. The dentist had made tried to make an impression but I was in terrible pain because I still had the broken tooth with its nerves intact in my lower jaw!, he was genuinely annoyed that I would need a further appointment to remove the remains of the tooth he broke. So he must have just used the impression that had to be stopped because I was in pain from the snapped off tooth!, that cant be right. I can take it but I would HATE my partner or children having to go through that I have been around the block and I know how the world works and what you are saying here is very brave and honest of you, we thank you for that.
Hi Ron, so sorry to hear about your experience. Yes that is exactly why the NHS dental system is flawed. I'm not sure what system would work best because when it was fee per item (i.e. dentists get paid for each item of treatment they did) there was a problem with some dentists over treating people. Theres always a few bad eggs who ruin it for the rest of us ethical dentists.
Did you get sorted Ron ,just had full nhs dentures my self there make Freddy Mercurys teeth look small,all bumps and lumps inside that i had to try and sand down myself as there were cutting into my gums
@@ethanhayes9989 Hi Ethan,Thats no problem thanks for asking ,Yes doing a lot better with the dentures now ,i still have the same immediate dentures for over a year now ,i was hoping to get a new set but then covid hit ,so wont get them till it all blows over as there only doing emergency appointments.Take Care
@@davec1704 Thanks for the reply, I'm looking at partial dentures so while it sounds like it's been a struggle, it's also reassuring to hear you've been getting on a bit better now. COVID has probably been a right pain to deal with when you found yourself mid-dental work - hopefully you'll be able to get back into the dentist and settled before long. All the best 👍
Dental work should be a priority and an obligation for the government and dentists to provide for ALL people... Not for privileged people who can afford to have work done on their teeth.. The prices have reached unaffordable rates.. People are now living with broken teeth, fallen out fillings, cavities etc... i know families that can't afford dental work... Dentistry UK is a shamble... and both government and dentists should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen..
Is no focus patient care unless you go private. Absolutely shocking. Nhs waiting list is off the scale . Nhs trained dentist who have do prioritise private is only contributing to the current dental crisis. I don’t see how she helps since she is private
if your with an nhs dentist,though its not there fault,you will get your teeth filled,untill exstrction,becuase its not cost effective too crown,with not enough tooth structucre,too late,fuck this system,i was lucky to research and remorgage too do this,some people may exspirience bite collapse and major loss of confidence,welcome too the truth,at least you could have told us ,so we could have seeked treatment elsewhere please answer its not personal too yourself,its just the general shape of things,your concerns heartwarming,respect and gratitude to yourself
As a dentist, the NHS system is expliotative of dentists. it devalues the professionals. i have worked in it 21 years, it gets worse every year, less subsidy, more overheads, this woman is very poor at explaining. dentists leave nhs because 1. exploitatative system with low remuneration 2. appeal of private system 3. lack of respect from the public for the profession 4. over-regualation from GDC and CQC 5. ridiculuos red tape worsens every year 6. appeal of Australia / Canada / mid east / far east theses places respect dentists and pay much higher than uk . the outside options. as i have given nhs dentistry 21 years. and notice british graduatess go private fast, and are happy to wave two fingers at the NHS. NhS dentists are from poorer countries , that do the jobs local people refuse and regard beneath them. But the hospital service post is good, you feel you are truly helping people, and you dont have to talk to the public as the are put to sleep, this is the way I am going.
So do you think that UDAs are perfect then? I think she was saying it’s a contributing factor - not the only factor. She touched on overheads and lack of respect (people not turning up)
Part of the beauty of being a dentist is being able to meet and talk to patients, changing their perceptions and improving their experience. I have time to do this in private practice due to the time I can spend with patients. I didn't leave because I think NHS is beneath me, in fact I do one day NHS but as an oral surgery provider. I do not have UDA targets to meet there so I can provide a good service there. Yes I agree with the points of overregulation. I don't think we are poorly remunerated but the targets make it hard for us to achieve good ethical dentistry.
My Father in Law who's 83 has had the same NHS dentist for over 30 years and recently they tried to sell him a little bit of work that would cost the £62.10 band 2 charge privately at a cost of over £250! Basically they tried to take advantage of an old man! I don't particulary care about how dentists get paid by the NHS, wether they do private and NHS or just NHS at the end of the day you NEVER see a poor dentist and never will. I built up a massive phobia and managed to get in with an NHS dentist, started to get my teeth sorted but i got a toothache was told i needed a crown, i asked if he should xray it 1st but NO he just ploughed on and prepared it ready for the crown at a million mph, all i could smell was burning and left with the temporary crown and was in agony for days after and ended up at the emergency dental service who xrayed it and it was infected, so ibhad it extracted there and then. I think the dentist just wanted the band 3 charge and i now have a full blown phobia again and haven't been to the dentist since👎 oh and i've got toothache!
Honestly, and I'm saying this as someone who's been avoiding the dentist for many many years due to phobia - thank you so much for taking the time to explain this. By explaining these things it genuinely helps me get to grips with my phobia, it empowers me to understand what's going on behind the scenes. Which believe it or not, massively helps my phobia. I have genuinely sympathy for dentists in the UK. From the very little I've learnt, the state of NHS dentistry is really quite upsetting, to be honest. But equally I absolutely understand that it simply isn't viable for your typical dentist to very complex and wide ranging work on the NHS. I had this idea that the dentist didn't give a crap about me and just wanted to rip my teeth out, but the situation is far more complex than me as an individual patient. I firmly believe most dentists would love a chance to provide proper patient care through the NHS - unfortunately the system doesn't nurture that and makes it more or less impossible for many. I've genuinely struggled to find NHS treatment, thankfully I am in a position where I can afford some level of private care and I am addressing my phobia head on - my appointment with a private dentist for the first time in 20% of my life span is next week - and I'm genuinely quite looking forward to seeing what we can do, and making a life change. My parents on the other hand don't have a penny to spare and live in a rural location. They cannot drive due to ill health. My mother has been trying to find an NHS fentist for 3 years or more, which frankly is heart breaking. Are the very core - and I don't think many would disagree on the face of it - it upsets me that money is a barrier to top class dental treatment. But again, I understand why this is the case. You cannot blame the individual dentist, by any means. Again, thanks for the video. Very insightful.
It's not fair on the people who have paid 100k into nhs and have to pay for a hygienist or can't get appointment because people out of work have taken them all. If they can't afford nhs they should get rid of it instead of taking money out of pay packets for excuses.
I was with a practice for 25 years and yet was tossed out on the scrap heap because they gave up the NHS and I can’t afford to pay private fees. Forgive me if I don’t have any sympathy for you.
You do it for financial reward. Patients are incidental. If dentists cared about patients more than their income, there wouldn't be any private dentists. This is why dentists do not clean your teeth or do root canals. It reduces the funding they get.
Nobody works for nothing, and there is a positive correlation between expertise and income. However your reasoning that private dentists would not exist if we care more about patients is evidently wrong. You have no idea of the constraints a NHS dentist works under, which is why many of us chose to work privately. It allows us to focus on providing minimally invasive dentistry, to do root canal treatment and push preventative dental care. Funding in the NHS is worked out by hitting targets, there is no penalty for doing root canal treatment or scales and polishes. However in the age of narratives why let reality spoil a good story? For some reason many have a problem with others being more successful because they chose not to see the amount of hard work and talent it takes to get there. It is really social envy. That is not say that some of us are greedy and put profit before patient but I hope you do not tar every dentist with the same brush
if anyone watching this is having dental problems,look into turkey,east asia,ive been on a waiting list with loss of vertical dimention of occlution,via ortho,cerec guidance bla,you will not be helped in this country without remorging your home,no disrespect to the nhs ,one of the most beutifull things ever done,shame too see it leave.ineviable.but i mean ths through pure researve an
Few professions are of great benefit to all of humanity. The Dental Hygienist is one of them. They should be in high numbers and all earning a comfortable living. They are all so gorgeous, too. (UK)
29000,i got quoted in this country,gdc,ha,turkey 15 years ago,time tells ,turkey,on site same clinic,orthodontist,endodontist,oral maxillo facial surgeon,answer me that,no offence intended,turkey price tag,plus considerably better work 6000,and thats 2 straus implants,full top arch cerec,all emax,though bone grafts done here unfortuatly,for time reasons,we have good dentists here and good people ,why are they ripping us off at 2500 per tooth for implant,though aparently our country has literally handed over dentistry,because confidence in patients is rising,i think that proffetion may suffer for obvious reasons in the fure
F*** off - we laugh at Turkish teeth here. Much of it is really poor quality. There is going to be a day of reckoning when all those patients who have been to Turkey have problems with their smile make overs. Next time you praise Turkish dentistry make sure your spelling and grammar are up to scratch. It is Straumann we use here not strau.
What i want to know is WHY dentists are now using rubbish filling material for fillings. ? The filling material dentists used in the 60.s 70., and 80.s was more permanent than the rubbish put in teeth these days. Time and time again we hear of people s fillings dropping out. Or dissolving over time when patients daily brush their teeth. I had white fillings put in my front teeth eons ago they lasted over 50 years now the modern white fillings inly last 2 to 3 years. Come off it. The amount of patients return visits to yhe dentist through rubbish fillings dropping out IS UNACCEPTABLE. SO DON.T GIVE US BULLSHIT patients are entiyled to treatment on nhs iif your dental practice owner is behaving like a bastard joun a union. Ps if your fillings do fall out you can buy a temp dental filler from the chemist. Its called Dentak temporary dental putty and it stops the pian and fills the hole till you get to dentist. If you have a toothache you can put it in the cavity it stops the pain till you get to dentist. Or Clove oil on cotton wool. Modernn fillings UTTER RUBBISH CHINESE SHIT. Never mind the excuses its tory privatisation and DENTISTS SHOULD JOIN A UNION £70 for a filling that comes out after a couple of years! Patients being conned and ripped off!.
As a patient with anxiety I immediately feel like a burden tbh. No one wants to be a nuisance but I fear I'm immediately perceived as someone who would likely take up too much of their limited time.
I can sense when they're pushed for time as it is, let alone if I happen to struggle during an appointment (I do try my best, and try numerous things to stop panicking).
That said, even when things go to plan theres no time to discuss your treatment properly and you always leave with unanswered questions, and in my case, untreated problems.
This government seems only to happy to tax you as much as possible, yet fail to look after you.. or treat those there to look after you fairly. Quite a messed up system.
This is seriously insightful. It sucks the NHS is losing a dentist like you. Lets hope we (the country) can get out act together.
Off topic the video you did about brushing your teeth properly. Was really useful it really does make a difference. So thank you
@Darius Beaumont just shut up🤦🏽♀️do u really think we're all gonna eat perfect sugar free food?? NO. So I'd like to see u try💀
@@sarakhreawish6322 how many sugars would you like in you veg soup dear? Lol😂 hard to eat sugar free these days when u get added sugar in things like baked beans, gravy even mushy peas have added sugar
Thank you so much for the video, I'm using it for my interviews to start dental school
I'm motivated but my dentist isn't. He just wants to remove my teeth. I flew to Paphos, Cyprus and had 3 lots of laser treatment for €250 and a deep manual clean on one tooth €20. My UK NHS had a schedule to remove 3 teeth. My Cyprus dentist saved them. We saw a doctor and physio too for my husband's back troubles and other troubles- no chance in the UK. Bonus... we had a lovely holiday topping up our vitamin D 🌞 levels too. 2022 it's desperate in the UK for dentists and doctors. The system is broke. Private doesn't fix it either because money and profit takes over.
Well said we pay for their education then the lot of them go private disgusting
@@yvonnerout7319 it's the current government's plan and been their goal for decades. The Tories voted against the NHS a number of times from 1945. Privatisation and greed is their mantra and is why people are struggling today.
Not quite the case as a dentist gives up earning a salary for 5 years. But don't worry, most (like nurses) don't even bother pursuing the profession anymore. As the dentist in the vid says the great British public don't value their teeth. The overheads for a practice are enormous. It's just not worth it and I gave up and now work as a housekeeper in a eco-spa. Much more enjoyable. I just laugh my head off when I listen to the British public complaining. The average salary of a dentist in the UK is £66k. Sounds good but take all the bits out. ARF, cpd days, MDU insurance blah blah., Better off being CEO for Thames Water. Zero qualifications to pump sewage into the sea... £1.5 million/year salary. Google it.
Sorry there skippy, I'm wrong, Avg salary today is 'Cut n Paste: 'The overall average dentist's salary in the UK is £50,838. This figure is based on data from PayScale's salary survey of dental professionals in the UK'. Better off working as a plumber.
This sort of treatment is not available on the NHS. That was probably why they didn't do it. You were perfectly welcome to consult a specialist privately as you did.
I find dentistry in the UK going back to IXX century and tooth removal, unskilled, poorly trained, ill-equipped not able to perform root canals, focusing on private dentistry to generate the income.
Nonsense - NHS dentists make a lot of money - many cut corners ie don’t do root canals but do extractions instead for example.
@@BBrunswick it's not cuting corners it's malpractice, I got told 1.5 mm to the nerve is not enough to preform root canal, wich is light years for a qualified dentisit.
@@admonster11 agreed. That is what X-rays are there for.
Imagine your knee is shot.
Option a: chop your leg off
Option b: reconstruct it
Both outcomes no pain (ideally)
Sounds familiar?
@@BBrunswick It does, I did have tooth gangrene half of the molar cracked during the first lockdown. I went to one dentist got a quote for £1500, a second emergency visit cost just £20 but ended up getting told 1.5 mm its too much and the nerve can be damaged, but If I go 10min around the corner away and pay £800 privately, ended up haggling for root canal for £450 but when I asked if they have a microscope to do it, the answer was, we have a magnifying glass. Finally ended up going to Poland for treatment spending £1000 with Airbnb and tickets, and doing all the teeth that needed the treatment. The molar in question was done with microscope and rebuild with glass fibre filling for £300. I'm still a bit upset about being left in the cold having tooth gangrene.
@@admonster11 the running costs of a surgery in the UK are horrendous. Everybody takes cut. By Polish standards a dentist is well paid in Poland.
In the US dentistry is far more expensive than in the UK for the same reasons. I would imagine dental indemnity costs a fortune out there.
I soo like what you said in the end , that with all due respect to patients who really take the advice , but honestly a lot of them just think that coming for regular check ups and taking time and slots with repetitive check ups but do nothing to prevent at home , is the answer . A lot of in pain patients wont be able to see a dentist while registered patients keep coming for problems that they didnot take any advice into account , poor oral hygiene and less and less motivation , this also contribute to less performance and less patients to be able to attend . Aside from the other points you mentioned which are so true and I cant thank you enough for pointing them out .
Ever tried getting root canal work done on the NHS, minimum wait for an appointment is 4 months, most dentists don't even accept root canal NHS patients. Blame the Tory cuts not the dentists.
4 months, you're lucky, more like 4 years from what I've found so far
The UDA system was introduced in 2006 under a Labour Government. It was unmitigated disaster and discouraged dentists working on the NHS doing extensive work including root canal work on molars
Truth is all they do is fart about demanding more money if that's the case they should be struck off and made to get a new job we need people with passion not with £ signs in their eyes
@@d.t.o6128 rule of thumb in multiple choice questions: Answers with always or never are very rarely correct.
While some dentists only have £ signs on their mind, many feel that their remuneration should reflect the resources and time invested into a procedure. That also includes experience but not costs like rent, staff and other overheads. Dentists are self employed.
While I understand the frustration of patients and can see how some colleagues act dishonourably I also feel the picture is much more nuanced.
Stick up for them as much as you want they still pick and choose who to treat becouse of the fucking money nuff said
Great video! I made the difficult decision not to go into dentistry recently because of the current state of the NHS system and the effect it's having on those that work in it. A BDA survey published in 2019 of roughly 2000 dentists revealed that nearly 50% of them can't cope with the pressure they're under, with higher stress levels being linked with increasing NHS workload. It also pointed towards a higher-than-average rate of suicidal ideation. Key reasons for this include growing regulation and litigation fears. There are also a number of UK studies showing that approximately 70% of dentists experience back pain, with high numbers also suffering sleeping difficulties, headaches and teeth grinding. Dentistry exacts a heavy physical toll and the number of patients crammed into the average working day in an NHS setting in order to reach UDA targets doesn't help! I only hope that the NHS contract is reformed soon.
Why? It's not that bad
You're doing a service to this country by being transparent about this. Thank you. There is very little education about Oral Health and the Dentistry that goes on. I believe a mixture of Payment plans and education about Oral Health would make it beneficial to people. The amount of subscriptions we pay on things now is ridiculous, surely we can pay towards healthcare now instead.
Hi can you tell me how much NHS dentist make bper annum? Is it easy to get job in private practice? Is private practice easy to make?
Thanks for the info..bless you
What’s the alternative to NHS? Could we get our own insurance & do it that way & get treated privately or is that not possible and would we just pay upfront costs to a private clinic? (even if the option to pay monthly was there)... my surgery is jam packed to the rafters with NHS patients, there’s no parking and the only option within 5-10 miles of my address says ‘Accepting NHS patients by referral only’, which means what exactly?
Hi Emma, sorry I have only just picked up your comment. Yes you can get insurance through various companies like simply health and BUPA, but you will have to check each policy carefully because there are limits to how much you can claim etc. Sometimes you have to pay the private practice upfront then claim it back through insurance. Many private practices have membership plans where you pay £x per month and it includes your check ups and cleanings and a discount off treatment.
Are you thick
I work in a Crown and Bridge lab and since the pandemic we have seen a massive reduction in the quantity of work coming in. Initially we put it down to a lack of patients willing to return to visits to surgery and surgery restrictions but would have thought most of that would be over now. Do you have any thoughts on why we are still affected so badly? Thanks
I’m a Private Dentist (Lincolnshire). From what I can gather, the main NHS corporate down the road is still restricting its activity to emergency treatment only. In the Private world we’ve gone back to ‘normal’ albeit still running with some changes due to seeing more new patients discarded by the NHS. Also we’ve had to increase our fees slightly due to inflation. Seems to me the Dental professional overall has been historically systematically abused by the NHS authorities and even more so during the pandemic.
@@sullivanrachael Thank you for your reply. It is very insightful. Hopefully things will get better for us all soon.
I absolutely agree with you in everything
I’m a dual qualified dental hygienist/therapist. I practiced dentistry for over a decade before leaving the profession a few years ago. I didn’t feel valued by the profession, and over time it became almost impossible to find work. It didn’t even pay the bills in the end. Maybe I’ll decide to climb a different ladder, but there is absolutely no way I would go back to dentistry.
Are most therapists and hygienists female?
TACTLESS - UK product vids for deaf & dyslexic ppl There’s just as many male dentists/hygienists-therapists as female. Many years ago the profession was probably more male dominated. Nowadays universities/dental schools are more diverse.
bit suprised from what im reading from you. i thought therapists and hygienists are payed well (25-35k) salary is within the average in the UK.
@@Hurrehurra assuming they work full time for their average salary. Most hygienists and therapists are self employed and work between practices. When the new NHS contract in England and Wales came into effect some years ago now with the UDA system, it was no longer cost effective for NHS practices to have a hygienist or therapist, so you just had to try and build sessions up in private practice which isn't easy. Theres simply no stable postions available for hygienists and therapists, and to be honest the culture within the profession leaves little to be desired.
Carl G wow. thanks for the insight. From what i researched it seemed like a very good career pathway with lots of opportunities and prospects. is the degree useful for places like australia which i heard has many opportunities? a potential career abroad may be in the horizon☺
Thanks for this my dad was a dentist and I used to work in the surgery while at UNI the problem with contrats then was every NHS patients had to pay the first £17.50 which wasn’t fair on patients who needed less work because they attended more
Though denplan was a start up back then but the amount of cash given to them was so high because magret T tried to stop NHS and put Denplan in its place
Hiya could you possibly do a Q&A type of video or a video describing how to get into dentistry particularly/what they look for and tips for developing your P.S. I am currently doing GCSEs and I would love some advice as I don’t know anyone who has gone into dentistry/vet/medicine.
Try to do lots of work experience with dentists who work in standard NHS but also specialists practices. And speak to them about how they truly deal with the day to day struggles and stress. Get a real feel for what the job involves. Not the glitz and the glamour side only which most dental students focus on. Learn the role of the nurse and receptionist and how together they make or break how the day goes.
Learn some basics of infection control, communication with patients and the dental team
Complaints handling
GDC Standards
CQC role
Do that and not only will you know if dentistry is for you but also great preparation for applications and interviews
A Dentist I was shadowing told me that reforms are being made to NHS Dentistry which will be aimed towards prevention based care and is based off something called 'The Steele Report'. Did i miss understand him or are you also aware of this?
We were supposed to get a new contract years ago, and now it is not expected for another few years. They have had pilots for a while now but nothing implemented as such yet. A lot of dentists have already left NHS, and I know a lot more would leave if they could (but NHS does give you a secure income whereas private your income could drop dramatically).
@@YourSmileClinic Hey, I am an a level student interested in dentistry, what do you mean when you say in private your income could drop dramatically x
@@lashantilove6486 In private practice your income usually depends on the number of patients you see and the difficulty/expense of the procedures you do. Your income could be reduced your patient numbers or procedures lead you to earn less than with NHS.
@@1marialatoya and how likely is one to earn less than with the NHS?
Right now, very likely (due to the pandemic). Under normal circumstances, your income it depends on your skills, speed and number of procedures performed in private practice. The more experience you gain increases these factors, so you will find your salary increasing over the years.
Years ago, I was meant to have braces as a kid. But it never happened. I was refused. And now as a result I have a severe overbite and have constant problems with pain and keeping certain areas clean, I brush 3 times a day, floss etc and none of that makes a difference. I also now have receeding gums as a result of pressure. I have to live with this for the rest of my life or be financially screwed all because the NHS isn't fit for purpose.
I can't even see a dentist now, I've been living with an abscess for over a year.
have you thought about invisalign? is quite cheaper
Greed over profession if you ask me even an 8 hour day a dentist probably does 3 hrs work if that
@@d.t.o6128 where do you get your information from? I certainly don’t just work 3 hours and get paid for 8. I am self employed
@@BBrunswick charge the NHS then and on that note what fucking car do you drive
Yep big cars small bollocks as usual
Hi i dont get your message that You want give! Can You resume in a few wards?
That still doesn’t justify charging £95 for a child’s checkup and £110 for adults which is going rate in my area not to mention dentists in my area have been insisting on payment on booking for last 2years which is understandable really iv discovered that getting treatment abroad is cheaper that includes flights and hotel might as well make a holiday out of it
You must live on the moon!
I got one in London for £40
Maybe it's a way to draw customers in and then rack up fees on additional treatments
I on benefits I cannot get registered to dentist I tried also private but trouble is too expensive talking £300 to £1000 to extract a tooth I need three extracted and the private expect people pay full on the day it’s disgusting there isn’t a insurance that could help pay bill full either. I think there should be a dentist insurance so can pay to per monthly if registered to private so large bills be covered
I’m a final yr dental student - what would be your advice to prepare myself for the demands of NHS ?
Be keen stop chatting and fix teeth it's not hard you don't see people in warehouses asking how to unload a container they just do it
And dependant on work ethics or money and we all know it's money so if you don't feel like your earning enough go and work for amazon
Obviously people wanting dentists have nothing to lose so go on you won't be missed
Be ethical. Do no harm. Money motivates unfortunately. Its not all about teeth whitening, implants and Instagram pics. Good luck.
Get a DDS in America and never come back to England.
I have been an NHS patient all my life. I recently had problems and it was to be a 7 week wait for my 1st appointment! Despite being entitled to free dentistry on the NHS due to illness, I had no option but to go private and pay.
All I can say is that I wish I had done this before. Between being treated like a 'person' and not a number has been worth paying for just for that. Fortunately my Dentist will accept some of the cost on the NHS, but I actually look forward to each appointment. Maybe the Americans have the right idea... (Can't believe I just said that, but from my experience, can you afford not to go private?)
Hi Davidson, I have many patients like yourself who are fed up with the service they receive on the NHS. It is an overstretched and underfunded service, and the government tell everyone they are entitled to all this treatment yet don't provide enough funds for dentists to be able to deliver it...effectively. So unfortunately many patients end up suffering waiting weeks for appointments.
1:40 And what she didn’t mention is that they don’t really spend that longer time on patients ... what they do is they lie to patients all sorts of things to do the treatment with the maximum uda’s or with the minimum effort which is EXTRACTION. Its sad but thats what they are forced to do.
I went private because I needed a dentist. I'm more bothered about keeping teeth for asking as long as possible than paying for over priced cosmetic procedures. Your teeth will wear out and eventually you will end up with dentures.
Salaried dentists employed by the NHS, working mainly with community dental services, earn a basic salary of between £43,019 and £92,013.
The nation is in a dental crisis. But apparently its not enough for these people.
U dont get it
I can't even get to see a private dentist.
I got scammed so I don't go to dentist if my teeth rot so be it I'm not spending 800,000 dollers to get my teeth fixed
I had molar tooth extraction last year and still having pain at same place. I don't trust my current dentist as they say I have infection in other molar next to my extraction. How can they say without doing any Xray ? They say that infected molar needs to be removed. I don't know but I don't trust them so I rang NHS111 but they didn't do anything. Don't know what to do? How to get referral to see other dental specialist. If anyone please help me.
Go to another dentist and get a second opinion. If you cannot find another NHS dentist to take you will have to pay privately
@@YourSmileClinic ok thank you.
I don't see how any dentist wouldn't be able to make NHS targets... NHS waiting lists are nearly 9 months in all the practicing around my area. Even the surrounding areas have long waiting lists.
I'm very lucky I can afford to go private but even then, if I don't want certain things like root canals ect I feel like I'm pressured into getting them.
Simple - you have a target to fulfil - say x number of completed treatment plans. However each plan takes on average several appointments to complete and some of those are lengthy. So while you are busy with patients, you don’t complete many treatment plans. On top much of your time is taken up by doing admin.
Result: you underperform and the Health Authority claws back payments.
It should take minutes to sort somebody's teeth out but they spend more time either chatting shit or doing shit
its ok saying you can spend more time with your patients but thats only if they can afford to see you if your not on benifits how are you supposed to pay for expensive treatment
Hi I want to talk to you. Regarding NHS dentistry
You wanted to provide more "patient focussed, comprehensive care" . That's quite an interesting way of saying follow the money.
🎉🎉🎉 wooo go Angela!
The real crisis is the number of people living in pain who can't get their teeth sorted out. Their pain levels are something far worse to live with than any dentists' stress levels. People have started pulling their own teeth out now and a big part of that is how much dentists charge, not just being unable to find an NHS dentist. It's the combination of the two.
I wish to become your Patient on day 😅🥰
Why NHS dentists not talking about the suger tax !! NHS Dentistry needs more funds directly from Manufacturers of soft drinks containing more than 5g of sugar per 100ml have been made to pay a levy of 18p a litre to the Treasury, or 24p a litre for sugar content over 8g per 100ml, since the tax came into force in April 2018.The latest figure of 21,544 NHS dentists in England is the lowest for a decade, with acute shortages in counties including Lincolnshire and Norfolk. In Thurrock, Essex, just 26.1% of adults and 30.7% of children have seen a dentist in the past two years. Figures in several other areas are not much better
WTF am I paying for? Can I apply for a rebate on my national insurance for zero dental care. I am private now and after cracking a tooth on a rock hard peanut, treatment has cost just over £1200 so far. Absolutely crippling.
Patients don't know the fact that grouped treatment is unfairly giving you more work, if you were to explain this to your patients I'm sure they would be willing to receive their treatment in several procedures- which is the wrong way to solve this problem.
But the end goal is to get more people using/ receiving the treatment through the NHS as we pay for within our taxes, its wrong for us to have to go down private routes because the government has purposefully 'broken the machine'.
We need more people pressuring the government to co-operate, how do we do this?
Regardless if the treatment is grouped or over several procedures dentists are only remunerated for the completed course of treatment. When this is hard is when patients haven't attended regularly and there's 20 years of work to do in one course of treatment. Which means that if dentists took this on there would be less time / resources to treat others. The NHS system works well when patients are well maintained and attending regularly for preventative care. But access is poor and there are many nervous patients who delay treatment until they're in pain which actually means more complex treatment is often required.
@@YourSmileClinic how about the government offering payment from nhs funds to private dentist struggling to find patients, for patients who have years of built up work that needs treating?
Im just trying to wrap my head around this current shortage/turn away of nhs dentists, this video help a little thank you.
@@onemagpie3735 I don't think this would work as you may get more dentists leaving the NHS or only seeing those patients privately.
@@YourSmileClinic i mean these private dentist would have to show a decrease in patients to be able to apply for the patients that have been severely back logged in the nhs system.
I am honestly worried the nhs system (especially the dentists) will collapse over the next couple years if the incentives for becoming and maintaining it continues to fail :-(
@@onemagpie3735 that is not true
Jimmy Steele was never a general dental practitioner in his life. he was an academic , and only used 1 tenth of his time on actual patients. it is a travesty to allow this person to dictate policy to a profession he is alien to. regarding prevention. the approach should be to educate all socio economic levels of society, aid the poorer sections of society with lots of education. use media. help the poorer people.
So instead of being a regular 9-to-5 dentist he was on the bleeding edge of patient care and treatment. Professions don’t stand still. Technology and medicine changes over time.
This is like saying it would be a travesty to let Richard Dawkins influence biology teaching because he’s “only” and academic - he doesn’t teach children 5 days a week.. so what does he know, right ? 🙄
You are spot on
Private dentist ever heard of dental life insurance talking £300 to £1000 for a tooth extraction that’s a huge bill for those on benefits and no free NHS dentist free
Dentistry has gone back 200 years in uk
Isn't setting targets like this encouraging Bad dentists to rush through NHS patients?. I have just had full dentures fitted and I was amazed at the speed it all happened?, teeth that broke were just left in?, I had my lower denture last week without having an impression made?? , the appointment that I would have had to make the impression was taken up when I had to have further surgery after a tooth was broken off and just left in on the previous appointment.
The dentist had made tried to make an impression but I was in terrible pain because I still had the broken tooth with its nerves intact in my lower jaw!, he was genuinely annoyed that I would need a further appointment to remove the remains of the tooth he broke. So he must have just used the impression that had to be stopped because I was in pain from the snapped off tooth!, that cant be right. I can take it but I would HATE my partner or children having to go through that
I have been around the block and I know how the world works and what you are saying here is very brave and honest of you, we thank you for that.
Hi Ron, so sorry to hear about your experience. Yes that is exactly why the NHS dental system is flawed. I'm not sure what system would work best because when it was fee per item (i.e. dentists get paid for each item of treatment they did) there was a problem with some dentists over treating people. Theres always a few bad eggs who ruin it for the rest of us ethical dentists.
Did you get sorted Ron ,just had full nhs dentures my self there make Freddy Mercurys teeth look small,all bumps and lumps inside that i had to try and sand down myself as there were cutting into my gums
@@davec1704 ever get that sorted, out of interest? Sorry to nose Dave, hope your oral health is doing better nawadays.
@@ethanhayes9989 Hi Ethan,Thats no problem thanks for asking ,Yes doing a lot better with the dentures now ,i still have the same immediate dentures for over a year now ,i was hoping to get a new set but then covid hit ,so wont get them till it all blows over as there only doing emergency appointments.Take Care
@@davec1704 Thanks for the reply, I'm looking at partial dentures so while it sounds like it's been a struggle, it's also reassuring to hear you've been getting on a bit better now. COVID has probably been a right pain to deal with when you found yourself mid-dental work - hopefully you'll be able to get back into the dentist and settled before long. All the best 👍
Dental work should be a priority and an obligation for the government and dentists to provide for ALL people... Not for privileged people who can afford to have work done on their teeth..
The prices have reached unaffordable rates.. People are now living with broken teeth, fallen out fillings, cavities etc... i know families that can't afford dental work...
Dentistry UK is a shamble... and both government and dentists should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen..
Is no focus patient care unless you go private. Absolutely shocking. Nhs waiting list is off the scale . Nhs trained dentist who have do prioritise private is only contributing to the current dental crisis. I don’t see how she helps since she is private
if your with an nhs dentist,though its not there fault,you will get your teeth filled,untill exstrction,becuase its not cost effective too crown,with not enough tooth structucre,too late,fuck this system,i was lucky to research and remorgage too do this,some people may exspirience bite collapse and major loss of confidence,welcome too the truth,at least you could have told us ,so we could have seeked treatment elsewhere
please answer its not personal too yourself,its just the general shape of things,your concerns heartwarming,respect and gratitude to yourself
Extract a tooth __Thailand £15? UK £200 ...
How can unemployed people afford to pay for dentistry? Especially if it's not their fault they're unemployed?
Bloody hell she gorgeous
As a dentist, the NHS system is expliotative of dentists. it devalues the professionals. i have worked in it 21 years, it gets worse every year, less subsidy, more overheads, this woman is very poor at explaining. dentists leave nhs because 1. exploitatative system with low remuneration 2. appeal of private system 3. lack of respect from the public for the profession 4. over-regualation from GDC and CQC 5. ridiculuos red tape worsens every year 6. appeal of Australia / Canada / mid east / far east theses places respect dentists and pay much higher than uk . the outside options. as i have given nhs dentistry 21 years. and notice british graduatess go private fast, and are happy to wave two fingers at the NHS. NhS dentists are from poorer countries , that do the jobs local people refuse and regard beneath them. But the hospital service post is good, you feel you are truly helping people, and you dont have to talk to the public as the are put to sleep, this is the way I am going.
So do you think that UDAs are perfect then?
I think she was saying it’s a contributing factor - not the only factor. She touched on overheads and lack of respect (people not turning up)
Part of the beauty of being a dentist is being able to meet and talk to patients, changing their perceptions and improving their experience. I have time to do this in private practice due to the time I can spend with patients. I didn't leave because I think NHS is beneath me, in fact I do one day NHS but as an oral surgery provider. I do not have UDA targets to meet there so I can provide a good service there. Yes I agree with the points of overregulation. I don't think we are poorly remunerated but the targets make it hard for us to achieve good ethical dentistry.
@@YourSmileClinic can you please tell me is floride really good for you please Respond i beg you these a lot of dentists secrets out there
Whats the probabilty of getting VTE in nhs for indian trained endodontist?
Welcome to the world of every Healthcare professional.
My Father in Law who's 83 has had the same NHS dentist for over 30 years and recently they tried to sell him a little bit of work that would cost the £62.10 band 2 charge privately at a cost of over £250! Basically they tried to take advantage of an old man!
I don't particulary care about how dentists get paid by the NHS, wether they do private and NHS or just NHS at the end of the day you NEVER see a poor dentist and never will.
I built up a massive phobia and managed to get in with an NHS dentist, started to get my teeth sorted but i got a toothache was told i needed a crown, i asked if he should xray it 1st but NO he just ploughed on and prepared it ready for the crown at a million mph, all i could smell was burning and left with the temporary crown and was in agony for days after and ended up at the emergency dental service who xrayed it and it was infected, so ibhad it extracted there and then. I think the dentist just wanted the band 3 charge and i now have a full blown phobia again and haven't been to the dentist since👎 oh and i've got toothache!
Honestly, and I'm saying this as someone who's been avoiding the dentist for many many years due to phobia - thank you so much for taking the time to explain this.
By explaining these things it genuinely helps me get to grips with my phobia, it empowers me to understand what's going on behind the scenes. Which believe it or not, massively helps my phobia.
I have genuinely sympathy for dentists in the UK. From the very little I've learnt, the state of NHS dentistry is really quite upsetting, to be honest. But equally I absolutely understand that it simply isn't viable for your typical dentist to very complex and wide ranging work on the NHS.
I had this idea that the dentist didn't give a crap about me and just wanted to rip my teeth out, but the situation is far more complex than me as an individual patient. I firmly believe most dentists would love a chance to provide proper patient care through the NHS - unfortunately the system doesn't nurture that and makes it more or less impossible for many.
I've genuinely struggled to find NHS treatment, thankfully I am in a position where I can afford some level of private care and I am addressing my phobia head on - my appointment with a private dentist for the first time in 20% of my life span is next week - and I'm genuinely quite looking forward to seeing what we can do, and making a life change.
My parents on the other hand don't have a penny to spare and live in a rural location. They cannot drive due to ill health. My mother has been trying to find an NHS fentist for 3 years or more, which frankly is heart breaking.
Are the very core - and I don't think many would disagree on the face of it - it upsets me that money is a barrier to top class dental treatment.
But again, I understand why this is the case. You cannot blame the individual dentist, by any means.
Again, thanks for the video. Very insightful.
🤣🤣🤣 4 years later the NHS DENTAL has a 3 🤬YEAR WAITING LIST
It's not fair on the people who have paid 100k into nhs and have to pay for a hygienist or can't get appointment because people out of work have taken them all. If they can't afford nhs they should get rid of it instead of taking money out of pay packets for excuses.
Why NHS dentistry is totally fuqued!
You are so fine, I didn’t hear a word you said, sorry
You Idiot-Yea she is alright looking but at least listen to what she has to say as well
mikey p okay I’ll try to focus this time, I’ll keep both Hands on the keyboard.
@@johndavid1585 How very mature of you-TWAT
mikey p I was trying to focus and then you mentioned the word twat, now I have to start all over. Please don’t distract me.
Lol. You might not need for anaesthetic when she's pulling your teeth out?
So basically see less patients,get more money 💵,that’s it in a nutshell love
I was with a practice for 25 years and yet was tossed out on the scrap heap because they gave up the NHS and I can’t afford to pay private fees. Forgive me if I don’t have any sympathy for you.
You do it for financial reward. Patients are incidental. If dentists cared about patients more than their income, there wouldn't be any private dentists. This is why dentists do not clean your teeth or do root canals. It reduces the funding they get.
Nobody works for nothing, and there is a positive correlation between expertise and income. However your reasoning that private dentists would not exist if we care more about patients is evidently wrong. You have no idea of the constraints a NHS dentist works under, which is why many of us chose to work privately. It allows us to focus on providing minimally invasive dentistry, to do root canal treatment and push preventative dental care.
Funding in the NHS is worked out by hitting targets, there is no penalty for doing root canal treatment or scales and polishes.
However in the age of narratives why let reality spoil a good story? For some reason many have a problem with others being more successful because they chose not to see the amount of hard work and talent it takes to get there. It is really social envy. That is not say that some of us are greedy and put profit before patient but I hope you do not tar every dentist with the same brush
She looks mixed race - Asian British (Chinese-white)? Also Yorkshire accent?
Think she’s had a nose job ...
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the truth is that they don't do the job you asked to be done and ive found one called maple dental clinic in Luton and they are shit
if anyone watching this is having dental problems,look into turkey,east asia,ive been on a waiting list with loss of vertical dimention of occlution,via ortho,cerec guidance bla,you will not be helped in this country without remorging your home,no disrespect to the nhs ,one of the most beutifull things ever done,shame too see it leave.ineviable.but i mean ths through pure researve an
no I think its is part of the British pirate ethos to have bad teeth and wooden legs
But the dentist is pretty though..
What's you're ethnicity and mix?
You wanted more money…. Just be honest.
Obviously lol
Chasing the £ does not give you job satisfaction. Most people want job satisfaction - dentists are not different
Few professions are of great benefit to all of humanity. The Dental Hygienist is one of them. They should be in high numbers and all earning a comfortable living. They are all so gorgeous, too.
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Greed is all it is plain and simple. They don't make as much form the nhs so they would rather let people suffer in their quest for profit.
Stuff it!
29000,i got quoted in this country,gdc,ha,turkey 15 years ago,time tells ,turkey,on site same clinic,orthodontist,endodontist,oral maxillo facial surgeon,answer me that,no offence intended,turkey price tag,plus considerably better work 6000,and thats 2 straus implants,full top arch cerec,all emax,though bone grafts done here unfortuatly,for time reasons,we have good dentists here and good people ,why are they ripping us off at 2500 per tooth for implant,though aparently our country has literally handed over dentistry,because confidence in patients is rising,i think that proffetion may suffer for obvious reasons in the fure
and everything computer guided no occlutial problem,or grinding
F*** off - we laugh at Turkish teeth here. Much of it is really poor quality. There is going to be a day of reckoning when all those patients who have been to Turkey have problems with their smile make overs.
Next time you praise Turkish dentistry make sure your spelling and grammar are up to scratch. It is Straumann we use here not strau.
don't value dentistry how dare you you are so ungrateful and so monet grabbing may God forgive you
What i want to know is WHY dentists are now using rubbish filling material for fillings. ? The filling material dentists used in the 60.s 70., and 80.s was more permanent than the rubbish put in teeth these days. Time and time again we hear of people s fillings dropping out. Or dissolving over time when patients daily brush their teeth. I had white fillings put in my front teeth eons ago they lasted over 50 years now the modern white fillings inly last 2 to 3 years. Come off it. The amount of patients return visits to yhe dentist through rubbish fillings dropping out IS UNACCEPTABLE.
SO DON.T GIVE US BULLSHIT patients are entiyled to treatment on nhs iif your dental practice owner is behaving like a bastard joun a union.
Ps if your fillings do fall out you can buy a temp dental filler from the chemist. Its called Dentak temporary dental putty and it stops the pian and fills the hole till you get to dentist. If you have a toothache you can put it in the cavity it stops the pain till you get to dentist. Or Clove oil on cotton wool. Modernn fillings UTTER RUBBISH CHINESE SHIT. Never mind the excuses its tory privatisation and DENTISTS SHOULD JOIN A UNION £70 for a filling that comes out after a couple of years! Patients being conned and ripped off!.