Amazing series so far, really shows how dynamic of a player Nemesis really is. Peaked GM League, 6k in DotA - my main tip (and some) so far is first try to have a general understanding on what almost all heroes do (especially the ones in meta rn) and what the items do this will make your life easier in a general sense, and set keybinds you find most comfortable with and most importantly master the fundamentals of roles 2 and 1 (since you can't escape people who'll force themselves in the mid role, its better to have a backup role to play) and most importantly have fun hahaha pick heroes that you are generally intrested and enjoy playing with this will better you in the fastest way possible. Good luck on the journey, may you surive the toxic life of DotA.
About stacking: you should only go for it if you can't kill creeps fast enough. a stacked camp is better than no camp, but 15% gold and 25% xp worse than the camp that appears after the old creeps are killed. it's mostly supports that do stacking. it's more efficient that way. the poor stack and the rich clear, that's the balance of the universe.
@@Ukulistithey don't if the stacker is the one who clears it if I remember correctly. But if is a teammate the one who clears it, the stacker gets additional gold
@@Ukulisti they give 15% less gold and 25% less xp, to the clearer if he was the stacker. they give 30% gold and 25% xp extra to the stacker if his teammate is the clearer.
Its unlikely you'll see this comment but if you do, I think you're doing great and it's nice to see new passionate players playing the game. I look forward to seeing these vods released daily, as its fueling my drive to get back into dota myself. Play this series like you suggested Druttutt and A-Z position 2 if position2 is what you want to play. In Dota, every hero can carry if played in position 1-2 @Nemesis . You said yourself you want to improve at the game. So the rose colored glasses are off and its time to approach the game like you did league back in the day. Another way to approach the game ; is the same way that your friend there suggested. Pick the main role that you want to play and don't diverge, and gradually expand your hero pool within that role. You'll speed through learning that positions fundamentals while also picking up on what you think other roles should be doing, or what other roles are doing wrong etc. I think support in this game is the HARDEST role in the game so if you truly like a challenge, picking high impact / crowd control / roaming supports (Lion , Lina , Mirana) is going to help you understand other things. Unlike league of legends, Heroes kits are way more important than the items(early game), and heroes like mirana/lina/lion/pudge are so strong lvl 2-3 they don't need anything but wards and branches, etc. etc.
25:45 the way TA's Q works is the instances of bonus damage per hit and blocked damage instances have separate counters. So you can lose the shield that blocks damage instances but still have bonus damage for the remaining number of hit instances left. (even tho the visual shield is gone you still have the bonus AD)
He should play Brewmaster. Somewhat simplistic kit considering basic abilities, playmaker hero, can be played mid, does damage and also has enough complexity with stance toggling + ult utilisation for Nemesis to enjoy
I'm glad when Ranger is there to coach you. I don't mind him. I often like how he tells chat how stupid they are if they sh*t on Dota or LOL. The problem is that ranger seems to haven't played in a really long time. Things have changed so much over the last 9 months. The biggest patch hit summer 2023. He gives you wrong impressions of some heroes. Like Puck can be crazy with AD. He can be kiting the team. He can go for mass aoe damage and dots or he can go single target nuke. I know you do want another coach but at least watch a pro replay of Puck to see what he's capable of.
He doesnt want to overload information to nemesis yet cuz blud only has 30hrs ingame, while chatters has like 1k+ already. .. sure maybe after 100 hrs he could start thinking champs being versatile at builds like AD intelligence heroes, but for now thats like lot of info imo
He doesnt even know how most hero works yet, let alone items so yeah it takes time .. he surely will automatically know this after more hrs and experience
@@xeqqail3546 wdym he doesnt want to overload, he immediately goes on about CK's inherent "chaos" mechanic with his base damage like why not talk about actual relevant shit and does ranger know lol or no? cause he could have helped nemesis understand so much stuff better if he just compared stuff properly to league champs or spells
agree with nemesis and hate chat for saying to wAtCh Le RePlAyS. he doesn't even know most champions & items, yet you expect him to undertand and be able to analyse behaviours and reasoning of pros. lol
Most of dota 2 important idea lies in macro decisions (when to push, farming pattern, ward spot, timing, lane equilibrium, item progression, ...) which can be picked up fast if you are coming from another MOBA. You don't need to know much about the champions to understand these. In fact, you should watch both your own replay and your POV, and watch a pro pub replay for comparison.
The only people who think watching pro games or high rank solo que is a good way to learn when being new are low ranks. Same in league as in DotA. So many UA-camr doing videos about picks pros play and how op it is and etc and show how he played the game without realizing there are to many variables to learn like that. It is like the new chess players thinking just copy the best move and you will master the game fast. The best way to learn is practice first play everything try different heroes to know what they do and etc and eventually once you have a decent grasp you can also watch high rank gameplay but in general practice helps more.@@bachpham6862
D3 league player and Ancient 5 Dota player here, hope Nemesis reads this. He needs a hotkey for select all units so he can move CK and illusions at the same time. I have hero+all other units on C, and all other units on X, because it's close to spacebar for selecting myself and also close to A so it's easy to kite while managing my units.
its fun watching skilled league players playing dota although theyre clueless about the game but theyre just mechanically skilled they sometimes make some cute plays😳😳
Click one of them he says. He's trying so hard to look like he knows everything. He'll never admit... wait he literally admitted that he doesn't work there. Ok so it was a momentary lapse of reason shred it thirteen times out of eleven.
The only cc they had was Nyx Assassin's Impale. You can see him raising his appendages when he's about to cc you. That's when you use your brain to react and play BKB before spikes connects.
"I have had the privilege of playing both Dota 2 and League of Legends. The games in Dota 2 are usually longer and do not allow the option to surrender, while in League of Legends, games are typically shorter. However, I don't like how if someone gets fed in League of Legends, the game is essentially over, whereas in Dota 2, there is still a chance of making a comeback. Another thing that I find frustrating in League of Legends is the surrender button. In many games, my team has surrendered even when I was fed."
Nevermind Rangerz is still raging when he can't explain "easy concepts". He never even used the word instance. He never explained that Q gives 2 separate types of charges, offensive(amount of hits with extra damage) and defensive(amount of damage events, instances blocked). It really is confusing, because why would extra damage hits be called instances? instance means occurrence, doesn't really make sense to use it while talking about hits.
several times he accidentally presses tp because he forgets to switch the hotkey. So i guess now you know why he didn't use quick buy hotkey. (he has no idea wtf is quickbuy)
Haven't played since 2019 but if I remember correctly, TA meld does not get cancelled by any stuns. She will get stunned but will stay melded unless she attacks or moves herself. cmiiw
@@xdplayah Only horizontal forced movement. RP is a teleport like swap or CK's reality rift. Upward movement like Kunkka's torrent does not cancel meld.
This guy is probably the worst person to learn dota from. Can't explain shit and gets frustrated when Nemesis doesn't understand. There's a lot of small mistakes that Nemisis does that can easily be pointed out, but the other guy is just busy trash talking and not knowing what's going on either. Painful to watch. Just take a few games with a pro over your shoulder and you should improve 10x in a day. Easy
dota snowballing feels even stronger than league and not being able to ff is tough idk also games being longer makes having trolls on ur team way worst
It was fun until ranger came in. blud is the Yapchamp emote personified I think for Nemesis to understand heroes better, he should focus on explaining them in League terms and stuff like that. Like how Puck Q is just Lissandra E, how its Phase Shift is a Zhonya's but on a basic ability, simple to understand. How Leshrac is a giga AP Amumu. Using League terms is probably the best way Nemesis learns his champs but I've noticed Ranger doesn't do that much. Instead he's rambling on and on, arguing with chat, as if he's the streamer
ranger guy a little annoying but i get it his baiting kids in chat, but this videos would be 10 x more enjoyable if we couldnt see cncr chat like in the very first episodes
42:27 this guy is too salty that nemesis has decent farm even though he's fairly new to dota, next time you play with coach just go for a legitimate one and not this clown.
@@mgcbxni nah ranger is so bad bro. Like he never play rank on dota. They are like both amateur in the game. CK main but doesnt teach him how to flash farm with ck. He doesnt say any useful information only teaching nemesis how to toxic ingame
Lol.. He play 1st game on a hero vs this idiots who played years this game.... In 50 games each hero can calibrate around legend/ancient mby with his moves
He doesnt play on low elo btw. Based on gameplay of others in game. His account will be high mmr after 100 hours. I had same and got instant immortal account after first 100 hours.
Straight up lie. Anyone above 1k would see his enemies are absolutely clueless every time. He faces a smurf once in a while but the average players on his games definetly suck. Dota's equivalents to Iron 4.
After 100 hours and calibration lel, Well Ive done it. Like 6 moths ago. Some accounts on unranked get linked with high mmr. Thats it. Believe me or not idc we shall see
He keeps hinting Dota 2 is painful; I find League of Legends frustrating with thier cartoonish games that last only 20 minutes and seem to cater to players who can't handle defeat and give up easily, as they have a surrender button for whiners.
Bro i love watching you but no ones trolling you. Literally no one NOOOO ONE uses chat to call rolls. You pick it on the map. Stop the stupid toxicity. You lost the role. Youre being a troll.
7 mins in and guy saying play a bunch of heroes is like worse advice to learn this game u should play a simple hero who can build a lot of sht. The thing about Dota is knowing what items do and how builds are key to countering heroes, how he supposed to learn how to stack itemize and rotate if he reading paragraphs on heroes abilities. He should just play Lina as she can build AD Magic or go full burst and can use almost every item then after he know what each item does play other classes. Yes say to a new player play whoever they pick storm when they don't even know what bloodstone, bloodthorn is or that diffusal and orchid also what counters them.
This legit like cringe test of how to let a league player learn the game the hardest way for them to not like dota. I'm surprised he still trying at this after experience been fk so far.
Day 18, nobody tells him to use f3 instead of Beethoven sonata for courier... guys
Lmao
true lol
his coach only know surface knowledge dota 2
Beethoven sonata 3 to be exact
@@lucidare hit immortal with only surface knowledge!!!!! thats my goat!!!!!!!!!!!
My favorite series rn
Amazing series so far, really shows how dynamic of a player Nemesis really is. Peaked GM League, 6k in DotA - my main tip (and some) so far is first try to have a general understanding on what almost all heroes do (especially the ones in meta rn) and what the items do this will make your life easier in a general sense, and set keybinds you find most comfortable with and most importantly master the fundamentals of roles 2 and 1 (since you can't escape people who'll force themselves in the mid role, its better to have a backup role to play) and most importantly have fun hahaha pick heroes that you are generally intrested and enjoy playing with this will better you in the fastest way possible. Good luck on the journey, may you surive the toxic life of DotA.
Omg, this guy again..
The Legend!!
he's actually lowkey became less annoying. bought a mirror i guess. good for him.
He is fun I like him
man so annoying to watch, ta is flash farm but the coach is npc
rangerx actually doesnt sound annoying now, he even makes the stream more entertaining. what a character development lmao
RAngerzX is the words dota coach ever
About stacking: you should only go for it if you can't kill creeps fast enough. a stacked camp is better than no camp, but 15% gold and 25% xp worse than the camp that appears after the old creeps are killed. it's mostly supports that do stacking. it's more efficient that way. the poor stack and the rich clear, that's the balance of the universe.
Stacked creeps don't give full gold bounty?
@@Ukulistithey don't if the stacker is the one who clears it if I remember correctly. But if is a teammate the one who clears it, the stacker gets additional gold
@@Ukulisti they give 15% less gold and 25% less xp, to the clearer if he was the stacker. they give 30% gold and 25% xp extra to the stacker if his teammate is the clearer.
the team difference is
85% gold vs 130% gold
and
75% xp vs 125% xp
the trashtalk in game 1 is phenomenal
Haven't watched the ful vod yet but dota replays have pov
Its unlikely you'll see this comment but if you do, I think you're doing great and it's nice to see new passionate players playing the game.
I look forward to seeing these vods released daily, as its fueling my drive to get back into dota myself.
Play this series like you suggested Druttutt and A-Z position 2 if position2 is what you want to play. In Dota, every hero can carry if played in position 1-2
@Nemesis . You said yourself you want to improve at the game. So the rose colored glasses are off and its time to approach the game like you did league back in the day.
Another way to approach the game ;
is the same way that your friend there suggested. Pick the main role that you want to play and don't diverge, and gradually expand your hero pool within that role. You'll speed through learning that positions fundamentals while also picking up on what you think other roles should be doing, or what other roles are doing wrong etc.
I think support in this game is the HARDEST role in the game so if you truly like a challenge, picking high impact / crowd control / roaming supports (Lion , Lina , Mirana) is going to help you understand other things.
Unlike league of legends, Heroes kits are way more important than the items(early game), and heroes like mirana/lina/lion/pudge are so strong lvl 2-3 they don't need anything but wards and branches, etc. etc.
25:45 the way TA's Q works is the instances of bonus damage per hit and blocked damage instances have separate counters. So you can lose the shield that blocks damage instances but still have bonus damage for the remaining number of hit instances left. (even tho the visual shield is gone you still have the bonus AD)
So yes, @Nemesis you can F5 do buy items from (quick buy) and then just F3 to bring them to you (or arrow in bot left)
okay im impressed that i can be on ranger's side most of the arguments
slowly becoming full-time dota player
Nice bro , 3 hours and different hero
ranger is gonna lose hair with the stress at this point
He should play Brewmaster. Somewhat simplistic kit considering basic abilities, playmaker hero, can be played mid, does damage and also has enough complexity with stance toggling + ult utilisation for Nemesis to enjoy
Hes actually beasting in his z00z game
I'm glad when Ranger is there to coach you. I don't mind him. I often like how he tells chat how stupid they are if they sh*t on Dota or LOL.
The problem is that ranger seems to haven't played in a really long time. Things have changed so much over the last 9 months. The biggest patch hit summer 2023.
He gives you wrong impressions of some heroes. Like Puck can be crazy with AD. He can be kiting the team. He can go for mass aoe damage and dots or he can go single target nuke.
I know you do want another coach but at least watch a pro replay of Puck to see what he's capable of.
He doesnt want to overload information to nemesis yet cuz blud only has 30hrs ingame, while chatters has like 1k+ already. .. sure maybe after 100 hrs he could start thinking champs being versatile at builds like AD intelligence heroes, but for now thats like lot of info imo
He doesnt even know how most hero works yet, let alone items so yeah it takes time .. he surely will automatically know this after more hrs and experience
@@xeqqail3546 wdym he doesnt want to overload, he immediately goes on about CK's inherent "chaos" mechanic with his base damage like why not talk about actual relevant shit
and does ranger know lol or no? cause he could have helped nemesis understand so much stuff better if he just compared stuff properly to league champs or spells
@@xeqqail3546 you didn't see Ceb stomping his league coach when he started out playing after 2 hours or so?
agree with nemesis and hate chat for saying to wAtCh Le RePlAyS. he doesn't even know most champions & items, yet you expect him to undertand and be able to analyse behaviours and reasoning of pros. lol
He can watch TI replays with new player commentators. All heroes and items are explained.
Most of dota 2 important idea lies in macro decisions (when to push, farming pattern, ward spot, timing, lane equilibrium, item progression, ...) which can be picked up fast if you are coming from another MOBA. You don't need to know much about the champions to understand these. In fact, you should watch both your own replay and your POV, and watch a pro pub replay for comparison.
The only people who think watching pro games or high rank solo que is a good way to learn when being new are low ranks. Same in league as in DotA. So many UA-camr doing videos about picks pros play and how op it is and etc and show how he played the game without realizing there are to many variables to learn like that. It is like the new chess players thinking just copy the best move and you will master the game fast. The best way to learn is practice first play everything try different heroes to know what they do and etc and eventually once you have a decent grasp you can also watch high rank gameplay but in general practice helps more.@@bachpham6862
If Nemesis doesn't like being Out of Mana, he should play Necrophos
D3 league player and Ancient 5 Dota player here, hope Nemesis reads this. He needs a hotkey for select all units so he can move CK and illusions at the same time.
I have hero+all other units on C, and all other units on X, because it's close to spacebar for selecting myself and also close to A so it's easy to kite while managing my units.
its fun watching skilled league players playing dota although theyre clueless about the game but theyre just mechanically skilled they sometimes make some cute plays😳😳
Can't wait for Nemesis to play a proper RTS game with Enigma
Unironically just straight up gatekeeping Nemesis from playing troll. This guy...
Click one of them he says. He's trying so hard to look like he knows everything. He'll never admit... wait he literally admitted that he doesn't work there. Ok so it was a momentary lapse of reason shred it thirteen times out of eleven.
get him a better coach holy
Having him play the dumbest heroes that he played, instead of one's he finds fun like wind.
@@Zachrz i'm not sure HE was the one who found her fun, buddy
@@suyunbek1399 , then you haven't been watching, buddy?
The only cc they had was Nyx Assassin's Impale. You can see him raising his appendages when he's about to cc you. That's when you use your brain to react and play BKB before spikes connects.
if u havent tried pugna i think he might be enjoyable, when i played dota i really liked this boy
might be too boring for him
@@annon658 It's fun tho
I want to see nemesis on death prophet, simple, strong in lane, decent scaling and good to learn timings and power spikes on map plays
He already played her
Dont get coached by Ranger guy he is 3 iq max, Try that Tzar Potato guy in ur chat he is a youtuber
Meepo is quite easy now that Mega Meepo exists he should try it out
Templar Assassin W isn't a crit, just bonus dmg with armor corruption... 🤦♂
"I have had the privilege of playing both Dota 2 and League of Legends. The games in Dota 2 are usually longer and do not allow the option to surrender, while in League of Legends, games are typically shorter. However, I don't like how if someone gets fed in League of Legends, the game is essentially over, whereas in Dota 2, there is still a chance of making a comeback. Another thing that I find frustrating in League of Legends is the surrender button. In many games, my team has surrendered even when I was fed."
Nevermind Rangerz is still raging when he can't explain "easy concepts". He never even used the word instance. He never explained that Q gives 2 separate types of charges, offensive(amount of hits with extra damage) and defensive(amount of damage events, instances blocked). It really is confusing, because why would extra damage hits be called instances? instance means occurrence, doesn't really make sense to use it while talking about hits.
haven't played dota in a while so i could be wrong. But shouldn't nemesis quick buy with a hotkey before getting killed so that he doesn't lose gold?
several times he accidentally presses tp because he forgets to switch the hotkey. So i guess now you know why he didn't use quick buy hotkey. (he has no idea wtf is quickbuy)
1:00:21 eles dois discutindo é muito engraçado 😂
Has he tried invoker yet?
RANGERZX PEPEW
waaaaat. i was reading wiki and found out the craziest insight: REVERSE POLARITY DOESN'T CANCEL MELD.
the fuck? :O really?
Haven't played since 2019 but if I remember correctly, TA meld does not get cancelled by any stuns. She will get stunned but will stay melded unless she attacks or moves herself. cmiiw
if you move her she would not be in meld
@@xdplayah Only horizontal forced movement. RP is a teleport like swap or CK's reality rift. Upward movement like Kunkka's torrent does not cancel meld.
any ability that puts the hero in the flailing motion will reveal her i think
but rp doesnt do that cause it's instant
that's my theory
Get the other coach back?
This one is like archon
hello chat
This guy is probably the worst person to learn dota from. Can't explain shit and gets frustrated when Nemesis doesn't understand. There's a lot of small mistakes that Nemisis does that can easily be pointed out, but the other guy is just busy trash talking and not knowing what's going on either. Painful to watch. Just take a few games with a pro over your shoulder and you should improve 10x in a day. Easy
dota snowballing feels even stronger than league and not being able to ff is tough idk also games being longer makes having trolls on ur team way worst
With this playstyle he just should play mefusa or anti mage
as a youtube frog, i love seeing rangger coaching
Zeus or sniper zeus or sniper!!!!! Batttttttt
It was fun until ranger came in. blud is the Yapchamp emote personified
I think for Nemesis to understand heroes better, he should focus on explaining them in League terms and stuff like that. Like how Puck Q is just Lissandra E, how its Phase Shift is a Zhonya's but on a basic ability, simple to understand. How Leshrac is a giga AP Amumu. Using League terms is probably the best way Nemesis learns his champs but I've noticed Ranger doesn't do that much.
Instead he's rambling on and on, arguing with chat, as if he's the streamer
Somehow he got more anoying
This coach not even aware that Arc blue bubble doesn't give evasion...
He hasn't played a long time
I am actually sick of this ranger dude.
has he played meepo yet?
Not yet but im awaiting the day. I only play meepo he's the only fun hero
he watched a pro replay and he said a few times that he think the hero is cool but it too complicate for him
Ask for a 9k MMR Dotabuff... That's like top 10% of the dota community. 🤣
10%?
Im much higher but dotabuff doesnt want to refresh my rating
ranger guy a little annoying but i get it his baiting kids in chat, but this videos would be 10 x more enjoyable if we couldnt see cncr chat like in the very first episodes
Idk if hes baiting. Hes quite obnoxious. He Has shallow knowledge yet he talks smack all the time, gives poor advice and uninformed opinions.
42:27 this guy is too salty that nemesis has decent farm even though he's fairly new to dota, next time you play with coach just go for a legitimate one and not this clown.
r u dmb hes not a coach, he's his friend dmbass
@@savagery4868 He is a friend that has an experience on Dota2 and is teaching/guiding Nemesis whilst on discord??? So???? wtf is your point?
@@mgcbxni nah ranger is so bad bro. Like he never play rank on dota. They are like both amateur in the game. CK main but doesnt teach him how to flash farm with ck. He doesnt say any useful information only teaching nemesis how to toxic ingame
That “coach is anoying asf
IM HAPPY WHEN RANGERZX joins stream no more ranger slander in this comment section PLEASE
Lol.. He play 1st game on a hero vs this idiots who played years this game.... In 50 games each hero can calibrate around legend/ancient mby with his moves
ppl like this cklinkz should get perma banned from dota
He doesnt play on low elo btw. Based on gameplay of others in game. His account will be high mmr after 100 hours. I had same and got instant immortal account after first 100 hours.
Straight up lie. Anyone above 1k would see his enemies are absolutely clueless every time. He faces a smurf once in a while but the average players on his games definetly suck. Dota's equivalents to Iron 4.
Whateva, no point in arguing. we shall see after his 100 hours.
@@urbanjug5537 nobody reach immortal after 100 hrs since you only unlock rank after 100 hrs. A lie indeed
After 100 hours and calibration lel,
Well Ive done it. Like 6 moths ago. Some accounts on unranked get linked with high mmr. Thats it. Believe me or not idc we shall see
@@urbanjug5537 Top hundred pro players in the world takes more than that to level their smurf accounts to immortal. Keep lying.
This coach is useless
He keeps hinting Dota 2 is painful; I find League of Legends frustrating with thier cartoonish games that last only 20 minutes and seem to cater to players who can't handle defeat and give up easily, as they have a surrender button for whiners.
Dota 2 didn’t copy monkey king. He was in dota 1. Yeah don’t like him. Get him out of here.
Agreed, he's a dota 2 hater because he couldn't climb.
@@Zachrz what?
Bro i love watching you but no ones trolling you. Literally no one NOOOO ONE uses chat to call rolls. You pick it on the map. Stop the stupid toxicity. You lost the role. Youre being a troll.
7 mins in and guy saying play a bunch of heroes is like worse advice to learn this game u should play a simple hero who can build a lot of sht.
The thing about Dota is knowing what items do and how builds are key to countering heroes, how he supposed to learn how to stack itemize and rotate if he reading paragraphs on heroes abilities.
He should just play Lina as she can build AD Magic or go full burst and can use almost every item then after he know what each item does play other classes. Yes say to a new player play whoever they pick storm when they don't even know what bloodstone, bloodthorn is or that diffusal and orchid also what counters them.
This legit like cringe test of how to let a league player learn the game the hardest way for them to not like dota.
I'm surprised he still trying at this after experience been fk so far.
You don't even know about them, and decided to write this essay? 😂😂
To me it looks like he is having fun
@@lori977 yeah it does
ranger