Apple’s Older M1 Might be TOO Good

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  • @RirtyDascal
    @RirtyDascal Рік тому +1904

    This is true. I still have my M1 Macbook Air and can't imagine needing more than this for at least a few years. I would've considered trading and upgrading to the M2 Air but they screwed up the storage and made it too expensive to get the not crippled storage. If I upgrade anytime soon I already decided I'm getting the M1 Pro MacBook Pro with the higher core CPU and GPU.

    • @imperfectxennial3008
      @imperfectxennial3008 Рік тому +68

      Agreed, I got the M1 MBA as well even though the M2 was available, not only was it cheaper but because the SSD is faster.

    • @sloppynyuszi
      @sloppynyuszi Рік тому +27

      After a year or two of using your tech it shouldn’t feel old. The M2 isn’t for M1 chip owning crowd.

    • @irfanhakimi2721
      @irfanhakimi2721 Рік тому +5

      U guys used 8gb ram or 16gb ram, im on dilemma

    • @alandiegovillalobos
      @alandiegovillalobos Рік тому +4

      Agree!

    • @RirtyDascal
      @RirtyDascal Рік тому +12

      @@irfanhakimi2721 I have 8 and it's fine for what I use my laptop for but if you think you might need 16 then go for it. When I do upgrade in the future I'll definitely be getting 16gb RAM next time around.

  • @amitthehuman
    @amitthehuman Рік тому +903

    I think it also has to do with the way they messed up the price ladder. They increased a lot of prices while making some lower tier options very bad. Those changes make people with a limited budget (that means most people) not want to climb on that ladder at all

    • @imolliebro
      @imolliebro Рік тому +79

      Absolutely, I bought I refurb M1 MacBook Pro when the M2s were released specifically because the M2 asked for a 30% higher price. They increased the price and are later surprised demand is lower?

    • @PhantasusRex
      @PhantasusRex Рік тому +2

      Yes! Agreed 100%!

    • @jrodjpg
      @jrodjpg Рік тому +16

      @@imolliebro its price increase + the fact that laptops are not changed as usually as a phone, ppl are still rocking intel macbooks nowadays.

    • @Bitshift1125
      @Bitshift1125 Рік тому +14

      Plus the M2 laptops have slower SSDs and higher prices. So what you are saying affects the budget shoppers, and the shoppers with more money or higher demands just probably cant justify paying more for the M2 when it's not always faster and IS always more expensive.

    • @momaw_C1-10P
      @momaw_C1-10P Рік тому +3

      Totally agree. And while maybe it's not fair when you consider discounts, I wanted the M2 Air, but by the time I upgraded the SSD and RAM to what should have been on the base model (I don't know how 512Gb and 16Gb is not the minimum these days), I could get a higher spec M1 Pro for less money. So I went the pro.

  • @Collin_J
    @Collin_J Рік тому +768

    I just picked up a used M1 Air from my sister's employer and wow this thing is a beast. Big upgrade from the 2013 MBP

    • @irfanhakimi2721
      @irfanhakimi2721 Рік тому +1

      8gb or 16gb ram?

    • @Collin_J
      @Collin_J Рік тому +18

      @@irfanhakimi2721 fairly positive it's 8, this machine will complement a relatively powerful Windows desktop

    • @andrewcheng1998
      @andrewcheng1998 Рік тому +19

      @@Collin_J especially because mac is hard to play games on, it really helps to get things done, then gaming on desktop .
      Also not mixing up important files and a less secured desktop for game is probably better for security.

    • @codygroce2091
      @codygroce2091 Рік тому +9

      Same. I got a 16gb M1 Air for video editing and it surprises me every day.

    • @MultiSneakerLover
      @MultiSneakerLover Рік тому +2

      Sisters employer lmao

  • @yeahbuddy300lbs
    @yeahbuddy300lbs Рік тому +419

    I have a M1 Air since its launch and am a very casual user. I’ll need to replace the battery at some point, but I can see myself keeping it for years and years, it works so well.

    • @ehusby
      @ehusby Рік тому +2

      How is your M1 Air's keyboard holding up? I've had mine for 2 years, and I recently had the chance to compare my keys with those of a lightly used M1 Air. Wow my keys have gotten soft. About a year ago I had issues with the Return key sticking, but luckily it worked itself back into nearly full-functioning shape.

    • @abhilashv.
      @abhilashv. Рік тому +1

      I have a M1 MBP and yeah I bought it just after the launch. Hows your battery life been so far? Mine is on 86. The keyboard has definitely gotten a touch softer as eric mentioned. M1 lineup was a beast and seems powerful even now.

    • @petchlnwzaaa
      @petchlnwzaaa Рік тому

      @@ehusby I have the same issue with M1 MacBook Air keyboard here. I hope I can replace it to make it feels like new

    • @yeahbuddy300lbs
      @yeahbuddy300lbs Рік тому +7

      @@abhilashv. haven’t noticed anything weird when it comes to my keyboard. Battery is 87% and pretty disappointing… it used to be amazing when it was new. I wonder if it’s a lack of optimization with the new updates.

    • @sweeteggnoodz
      @sweeteggnoodz Рік тому +1

      @@ehusby I've had my m1 since it was released and no issues with my keyboard. My partner just got a new m1 air as well last week and feels the same when I type on their laptop. I use my laptop keyboard pretty heavily since im a content/copywriter. What I did notice had gotten a lot worse when I compared it to my partner's was the speaker. Definitely not as loud as theirs

  • @arthuraguiar5382
    @arthuraguiar5382 Рік тому +1784

    I'm afraid they might start nerfing those M1s via software updates. Not sure on the legal side of it, or how bad would it hurt their reputation

    • @jjpark98
      @jjpark98 Рік тому +678

      While I unfortunately don't see that as impossible, I do think we're living in a day and age where that would be the dumbest thing they could do knowing full well tech youtubers will find out about this and they will get absolutely shit on for that

    • @mikefamm5712
      @mikefamm5712 Рік тому +254

      @@jjpark98 Yes, especially because they're still battling the reputation effects of slowing phones down over time (even though it's an unavoidable part of phones). To take significant steps to decrease functionality also just seems unnecessary, because the SSDs in these computers have a finite lifespan- they're ticking time-bombs anyway.

    • @perseus31
      @perseus31 Рік тому +75

      That would be stupid. They literally have the app for downgrading to older MacOS. I dont like Ventura, and if the next one nerfs my hardware I will downgrade to Monterey and stay a while

    • @spyder2041
      @spyder2041 Рік тому +35

      Hopefully by that time, Linux will run well enough to do as an a main OS on these ones

    • @vong4518
      @vong4518 Рік тому +23

      And still people would and will buy their overpriced products in a heartbeat day one... And before you bash me, yes i own Apple products aswell... i just buy them cheaper

  • @sundaynightdrunk
    @sundaynightdrunk Рік тому +264

    The M1 Air hits a sweet spot that's hard to beat, and you can find them relatively cheap. I paid $900 for mine, but that was only a couple months after it launched. I love that thing and carry it everywhere because it's so small and light, I basically forget I have it until I need it. When I travel it's all I take, and it gets done everything I need it to.

    • @wetkarma
      @wetkarma Рік тому +1

      😊

    • @jklszxe1705
      @jklszxe1705 Рік тому +2

      bought mine used for around 600 USD , only a year old and the battery cycle is around 200, beast of a machine, I still have a desktop PC that is my main driver but whenever I go out I bring that Macbook Air with me, don't have any performance "hangups" when I compare it to my desktop pc

    • @josephojo2052
      @josephojo2052 Рік тому

      @@jklszxe1705 where did you get it at that price

    • @Spazza42
      @Spazza42 Рік тому

      Price point is the real problem, it’s actually too competitive to bother picking anything else. The M1 chip offers better value than any Windows laptop, I just wish Apple offered an 11” version for $100 less

    • @sundaynightdrunk
      @sundaynightdrunk Рік тому

      @@Spazza42 They're on sale at Best Buy for $749. It's one of the best value laptops you can buy for the performance and display right now.

  • @1001nevermore
    @1001nevermore Рік тому +85

    I upgraded my m1 MacBook Air to the m2 MacBook Air when it came out purely for the redesign and better display. And I absolutely love my m2… but if I could do it over again, I would probably keep the m1. It was such a fantastic laptop and as cool as the redesign I’d, it’s not a major improvement like I thought it might be.

  • @remccarthy2898
    @remccarthy2898 Рік тому +160

    I have the 13" M1 MBP (Yes, with the "Touch Bar") and I love the thing. I can't see upgrading for many years to come. I have a 14" with M1-Pro Chip for work and it is great also. Apple better not try to slow these down just to sell more products.

    • @Ddreinthebay
      @Ddreinthebay Рік тому +6

      Dude I still have mine and had it for a year or two and I love it. It’s still so fast and edits 4k insane.

    • @aronfaine9457
      @aronfaine9457 Рік тому +11

      i have the base model MBP 13 M1 and despite only 8GB of RAM, it crushes 4k video editing (compared to an equivalent specced Windows machine at least) and does everything I want it to do. I got the base model because its mainly used as a really good everyday machine, but if I need to do some heavy lifting, its able to do it too. The biggest issue is only 256GB of storage, and it not being upgrade-able. But, such is Apple. Its also good to remember, Apple slowed down old phones *with bad batteries*, not just any old phone to entice you to get a new one. They were shady about it, but it had a legitimate reason.

    • @MattLong101
      @MattLong101 Рік тому +1

      Same here, i dock it with an external monitor and have used it as a desktop as well.

    • @adamburgess7890
      @adamburgess7890 Рік тому

      It's insane isn't it! I love mine

    • @ilbroducciore
      @ilbroducciore Рік тому +6

      Touch Bar lovers unite. I'm still very fond of it.

  • @coyley72
    @coyley72 Рік тому +122

    I’m a little selfishly pleased about this 😂 I bought a MacBook Pro M1 10/16 in Dec last year and it’s astonishingly fast and powerful. And almost more importantly, SILENT. Bloody lovely. (It’s my first Apple computer after decades of Windows computers)

    • @jurajchobot
      @jurajchobot Рік тому

      It's mostly the fact you can't sell the M1 Macs because the data can't be wiped. Many people already want M2 but they can't buy it because throwing away the old M1 would create a lot of waste, so they will have to keep it for years and years despite really wanting to upgrade to a new model.

    • @morezco
      @morezco Рік тому +25

      @@jurajchobotwhat are you on about

    • @LoveStrangeDr
      @LoveStrangeDr Рік тому +1

      @@jurajchobotbullshit

    • @ItsHonski
      @ItsHonski Рік тому +4

      @@jurajchobot You can sell the M1. Apple silicon macs come with a software called Erase Assistant which is a tool designed to wipe all the data off the mac. All of the intel macs (excluding the ones with the T2 sec chip) require you to reinstall the OS via USB to wipe it. I have no idea what you're on about.

    • @BadenHealth
      @BadenHealth Рік тому

      @@jurajchobot they can’t ebay it?

  • @johnjurmu5669
    @johnjurmu5669 Рік тому +118

    I got lucky and bought my MBP in late 2013. A perfect point where it was at the beginning of processors weren't making huge leap and bound improvements, pre butterfly keyboards, plenty of I/O. It's been a good run but starting to save up for a M processor upgrade.

    • @DJSlyTT
      @DJSlyTT Рік тому +2

      I still have a 2011 MBP, only reason i havent upgraded is due to lack of use, but I think M1 is in my eyesight soon.

    • @stachowi
      @stachowi Рік тому +2

      i'm still using the 2013 MBP right now, but i bought a 14 inch MBP to replace it a year ago.

    • @jdkingsley6543
      @jdkingsley6543 Рік тому

      Yup me too

    • @inderpreetsingh3133
      @inderpreetsingh3133 Рік тому +2

      Upgraded 6mo ago from mid 2012 MBP to 14” M1 MBP, perfect timing for a significant upgrade after M2 Launch. It is a game changer. The upgrades in speaker, reverted keyboard, and the display are also huge and may be understated behind CPU performance

    • @stachowi
      @stachowi Рік тому

      @@inderpreetsingh3133 it's good for sure

  • @PaulHojda
    @PaulHojda Рік тому +15

    Got myself an M1 Air 2 years ago and it's been fantastic. I have absolutely no reason to upgrade. The performance is waay more than sufficient for my daily tasks, and I actually love the design and the gold color, which you can't get on the M2 air. Even with just 8GB of RAM, I don't see myself buying a new laptop in the next 5 years.

  • @stingus
    @stingus Рік тому +126

    Got myself a base M1 Pro MacBook 14. I had extremely high expectations and it exceed them. It's insanely good. It's extremely hard to get a MacBook with a custom configuration where I live, so it's an only choice. Ended up recommending it to all my friends and most of them also went for it at the end. All of them are extremely happy about it.

    • @epicgamer496
      @epicgamer496 Рік тому +2

      its also much better value than the m2 pros

    • @stingus
      @stingus Рік тому +2

      @@epicgamer496 Yep, specially if you consider the storage speed issue on the base M2 Pro MacBook.

    • @JacksonDreyer
      @JacksonDreyer Рік тому +1

      Greatest laptop ever

    • @arnaudbalma8156
      @arnaudbalma8156 Рік тому

      I'm watching from one right now. Love it.

    • @epicgamer496
      @epicgamer496 Рік тому +1

      @@stingus true that i forgot about the slower ssd on the bass model

  • @Rosa-xg8tb
    @Rosa-xg8tb Рік тому +15

    I'm planning on buying a laptop for university this year and M1 air still easily looks like the best value for the money by far, I just hope they won't discontinue it for as long as possible.

    • @EntertainMeTV
      @EntertainMeTV Рік тому

      Look into the bricking issue when updating the OS. This does not affect intel Macs or M2 units

    • @brtggy
      @brtggy Рік тому +1

      ​@@EntertainMeTVwhats that

  • @stefandesu
    @stefandesu Рік тому +16

    Love my M1 Air, best computer I've ever used. I think I would really enjoy the M2 Air because it looks nicer and is a bit lighter, but upgrading is out of the question at the moment.

  • @Kaze919
    @Kaze919 Рік тому +9

    I’m one of those strange people who actually upgraded from an M1 Air to an M2 air. I bought the M1 at the cheapest spec just because I was upgrading from a top of the line 2013 MBP and I knew that M1 even the cheapest was gonna be leagues better than what I had. But then my work changed and I had to do more heavy coding and video editing work so I decided to stick with the Air but get a proper workhorse of a machine.

  • @SeanyMacHimself
    @SeanyMacHimself Рік тому +5

    I love seeing this video come up in my feed 2 months after release because I bought an M1 Air and it’s an absolute tank. I went from a 2013 15” MBP i7 QuadCore. Got me through music production and DJ gigging, but now I’m in another stratosphere. M1 was futureproofing so many people’s computing needs.

  • @ridafkih
    @ridafkih Рік тому +5

    I upgraded from the M1 Pro to the M2 Max, and I have to say... I am loving the extra power. I'm a mobile developer and my build times went down from 5 to 2 minutes. It doesn't seem like a lot, but when you're iterating, it saves countless hours. I'm well in the minority, but even a 20 second saving on build times will have me upgrading.

  • @kwok57
    @kwok57 Рік тому +16

    Hearing you say that I probably won't update until probably M4 or M5 made my wallet so happy, lol.

  • @daltonz
    @daltonz Рік тому +10

    Then tanking the ssd speed without an increase in storage is what would make me go for M1

  • @mason8241
    @mason8241 Рік тому +4

    I just got the m2 pro Mac mini - an upgrade from my 2017 maxed out MacBook. The performance jump is so insane. I do programming/dev in vs code + web assets in photoshop + light editing in premiere.

  • @atacant
    @atacant Рік тому +7

    The m1 was such a leap forward, I think not only the holdouts waiting, but also recent intel users upgraded. Thus not much new adoption for the m2 makes sense. I feel like a macbook is at least a 4-5 year machine before one could feel the need to upgrade.

    • @m-ksh
      @m-ksh Рік тому +3

      Precisely, and whoever owns the M1 already and a normal human being wouldn't think of upgrading their still-new $2000 devices 1 1/2 years later...

  • @tommydplayskeys
    @tommydplayskeys Рік тому +5

    The biggest problem with my 2012 MBP is that it's no longer supported for MacOS, so I can't update software. That's what holding me back from buying an M1 now - getting an older model cuts a couple of years off the OS support from my date of purchase :(

    • @brittanycarrie
      @brittanycarrie Рік тому +1

      I also had the 2012 MBP, and upgraded to the M1 MBP because the 2012 started to give me me problems. My M1 is now a couple years old and it is still fantastic. I love It a lot. I see what your saying about losing a couple years of support, but I can honestly say that I don’t think you would be disappointed with the M1

    • @nameless-user
      @nameless-user Рік тому

      Tbf, that’s a 10yo model. Even with Windows or Linux, you’re not updating or upgrading the OS for 10 years without _some_ upgrades to the hardware.

    • @tommydplayskeys
      @tommydplayskeys Рік тому +1

      @@nameless-user yeah, although I bought it brand new from the Apple store in 2016. It was either that or something fully soldered together for a lot more ££££. The latest supported MacOS came out in 2019. So I basically halved the length of my OS support by buying an older model. That's why I'm not so keen to go M1 in 2023.

  • @josechomali
    @josechomali Рік тому +6

    Probably M3 will partially fix the lack of linear performance upgrade when duplicating the chip cores with higher models, and that’s why a mac pro won’t release until then. Otherwise, the extra price for a bigger chip than the Ultra won’t justify by any means.

  • @raffaaeeel_
    @raffaaeeel_ Рік тому +7

    I got my M2 Air 512gb with the 10-core GPU for the same price as the M1 Air with 512gb last week. The price of the M1 with 512gb here in the Philippines is $1,243 (Php 69,990) and the M2 in my spec is $1,563 (Php 87,990). I could not just pass this deal up because the M2 just looks that much better and the color also matches my 13 mini, which is starlight. Highly recommend the M1 Air still but if you can get a deal on the M2, go for it!

  • @CED.Dweller
    @CED.Dweller Рік тому +37

    I'm with you on the JOMO (joy of missing out) on M2 Macs. The only thing I wish my base model M1 13" had was one of the higher RAM/storage combinations. Thankfully, external storage works excellently for me.

    • @shylady8711
      @shylady8711 Рік тому +1

      what ssd brand do you use?

    • @CED.Dweller
      @CED.Dweller Рік тому

      @@shylady8711 Sandisk and Western Digital.

  • @CompleteAnimation
    @CompleteAnimation Рік тому +2

    And a month later, they announce an M2 Mac Pro!

  • @Rynofinds
    @Rynofinds Рік тому +6

    Been using M1 Pro for nearly a year and it's still killing it. Best laptop I ever owned. Don't upgrade just for the sake of the model!

    • @Andrew-pv8oz
      @Andrew-pv8oz Рік тому +1

      Why would it not “keep killing it” after only a year ? 😂

  • @kreshnikkona3866
    @kreshnikkona3866 Рік тому +7

    They should rebrand the 13inch "MacBook pro" to the 13 inch "MacBook". So the lineup would be MacBook Air, MacBook, MacBook Pro.

    • @Potato_Quality7
      @Potato_Quality7 3 місяці тому

      You think they'd give up the MAX moniker?

  • @fightnight14
    @fightnight14 Рік тому +7

    Got my M1 Air this year for $740 after taxes. It's just unreal I love this thing. The M2 Air has a better display but for $200 less I'll take the M1 Air all day

    • @alexanderjackson7815
      @alexanderjackson7815 Рік тому

      $740? Did you buy new? I never seen the price being that below MSR

    • @fightnight14
      @fightnight14 Рік тому

      @@alexanderjackson7815 brand new, I have an employee discount but that amount is before taxes

  • @pawelpow
    @pawelpow Рік тому +29

    I've bought a Macbok Air M1 nearly 2 years ago, and it's still amazing; probably not going to upgrade anytime soon...

    • @LucariosTrainer
      @LucariosTrainer Рік тому

      same here. got mine summer 2021. i've been using it as my main computer setup with both internal display and external monitor every day since i got it, but it will probably be my first and last Macbook because my next laptop upgrade will be a windows one for work and gaming.

    • @XeZrunner
      @XeZrunner Рік тому +1

      I bought one in December 2022 and it's awesome!

    • @bb_4488
      @bb_4488 Рік тому +2

      Same! It can handle everything in my workflow with zero hiccups. Just wish bluetooth and external monitor support was a bit better

    • @DarthBenneth
      @DarthBenneth Рік тому +1

      Same! Helps that I also upgraded the ram and SSD through Apple, this will be a computer that will last so long

    • @duppa
      @duppa Рік тому

      Same here. I had a 2013 MacBook Pro until 2019 previously and I easily expect this to outlast that.

  • @roryvance3694
    @roryvance3694 Рік тому +4

    The only exception I see to this is the M2 Mac mini. Mainly because it dropped in price over the M1. Yes, the r/w speed is slower for huge files, but dropping 100 across the board (and with sales, really 200 for 512 version) , it's still great. I did kick up mine to 512/16gb RAM, but it does everything I want (I use M1 iPad Air 5 with keyboard for "laptop" needs).

  • @tony.cortez
    @tony.cortez Рік тому +1

    Yapi, m1 pro base 14” user here, it can do all my workload without a sweat. Also that mini LED screen! Chef’s kiss. Hope Apple will not nerf it on next software updates.

  • @charlesdamien5849
    @charlesdamien5849 Рік тому +18

    Rest in Piece to the best Mac we ever had.

  • @pattycookie2011
    @pattycookie2011 Рік тому +4

    I use a Mac Air 2013 for work (Zoom, google drive and light browsing) and it it still holds strong! And I have plenty of ports and a SD card reader 😊🎉

  • @ok-tz2nf
    @ok-tz2nf Рік тому +5

    I have an M1 Air and honestly it is great. I don't see myself upgrading any time soon

  • @the4fibs832
    @the4fibs832 Рік тому +3

    I have an M1 Macbook Pro 16" and it is phenomenal. I bought it as certified Apple refurb right after the M2 MBP launched at a decent discount. I throw pretty heavy workloads at it as'a software engineer - I can have multiple browsers running alongside emulators while compiling code and I've almost never heard the fans turn on at all. The battery life is fantastic. Easily all day. I previously had a 2019 (?) i9 Macbook Pro 16" and I could barely use the thing for an hour before it died. I'm SO happy with my purchase and without a doubt will be using it for years.

    • @willkay7206
      @willkay7206 Рік тому

      What chip did you buy and Ram amount?

    • @the4fibs832
      @the4fibs832 Рік тому

      @@willkay7206 M1 Pro 32GB

  • @MannyRataul
    @MannyRataul Рік тому +5

    I purchased the M1 back in 2020 with upgrades to the ram and SSD. I just recently picked up the M2 15" Air and honestly the performance difference is negligible, especially in day-to-day use. Apple created an amazing laptop but also cannibalized its M2 MacBook Air sales in the process, a loss for Apple but a win for us consumers.

  • @marion817
    @marion817 Рік тому +2

    I just recently got the M1 Air. It's an amazing device. My first Mac, though I've had iPhones and iPads in the past. Amazing that an almost 3-year old laptop is still selling and actually performing really good for its price.
    The difference in price vs. M2 is just too much, especially for us third world folks. We were really screwed by forex and strong USD.

  • @fasinfrank6941
    @fasinfrank6941 Рік тому +4

    Just grabbed a M1 Pro 16" from Apple refurbished store for $2400 CAD. Love it.

  • @igotheals
    @igotheals Рік тому +1

    I've said this exact thing about what Mac to recommend to people who just want a entry-level mac: the base model M1 Air is the best laptop Apple's ever made, and it's the perfect entry point to the macOS ecosystem. I remember trading in my top-of-the-stack 16" Intel MBP for an M1 Air, and the Air just smoked that old MBP, it wasn't even a competition, lol. And taking their original prices into consideration (the MBP was used), the Air was 1/4 the price of the MBP. Just a galaxy of difference.

  • @nbrikha
    @nbrikha Рік тому +5

    I have an 16" MCP M1 Pro and I do light video editing and some browsing. I really just wanted a 16" Apple laptop and the beautiful display. I don't see myself upgrading for like 5 years bare minimum. It's overkill now and I feel like it'll be overkill in 5 years too.

  • @rg975
    @rg975 Рік тому +1

    M1 was so good it made me switch to MBP a while back when I needed to upgrade. It has never skipped a beat

  • @ShayGamerD3
    @ShayGamerD3 Рік тому +11

    Not only M1 was really good, but also cheaper. Also, macs are prohibitively expensive in many countries outside the U.S.: e.g., they cost as much as twice as more as PC laptop with similar specs where I live. Apple "tax" is becoming insane in some places.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 Рік тому +3

      It really is not that much different here in the US, as Apple has almost always been the more expensive offering here, when you can get a machine for 1/2 to 3/4 cost of an Apple that can do the same things.
      In fact overall computers made in the past decade, or so have been so good that with a RAM, SSD, and maybe a GPU upgrade if you're running a desktop, they can still do the vast majority of what people need to do with a computer for daily task just fine.
      Lastly let us not forget the economy is in the dumps right now in so many places of the world, that a new computer is one of the last things people are thinking about right now compared how the hell am I going to pay for these groceries that have nearly doubled in price, and still pay my other bills!!

    • @tomdfrog
      @tomdfrog Рік тому +1

      oddly when I shop and really compare tit for tat, the PC and Mac come out about they same. Sure, there are lots of PCs out with skimped on specs which cost less. But they do so because of the skimped on specs. I buy old Macs and with BootCamp, deploy them as PCs. Why, because they run for YEARS. My oldest units are from 2008 (having just retired my 2006 models). Yes, there have been some upgrades along the way. No PC I have bought (or that my friends have bought) have run 24/7 for over a decade without any issue. The PCs always fry themselves. Powersupply fails, fans fail, stuff melts. Not the Macs. They just run and run and run. Every 5-7 years, I replace the SSD.
      Currently these new M1/M2 seem super fast for Video production from all the review videos. The M1 Max machines we have bought or not remarkably faster than our older i7 machines with our day to day Creative Cloud work. Most the boost is in read/write of files. So, we have held off on buying anymore. The exorbitant SSD/Memory pricing plays into that. Also, the fact that the MacPro and Studio still languish with outdated hardware.

  • @snowcarver
    @snowcarver Рік тому +1

    This was literally me. Just purchased a 16in MBP M1 "lightly" used from Reebelo for $1400. It's almost impossible to tell that it was used other than some port scuffs and this computer chews up anything I throw at it. Very happy the M2 came out so I could save money on the M1

  • @dassonntagskind
    @dassonntagskind Рік тому +5

    I really wanted to either get the M2 Air or M1 or M2 Pro but the prices in Europe for these machines are just insane, especially if you are looking for a bit of an upgrade. Gonna be sticking with my M1 Air for quite some time still.

  • @Itsallawesome
    @Itsallawesome Рік тому +1

    *1 month later*
    Apple unveils the M2 Mac Pro

  • @JaceKeller
    @JaceKeller Рік тому +3

    I have the M1 Macbook Pro and i'm not upgrading before M4.

  • @KoZeroSM
    @KoZeroSM Рік тому +2

    Btw, my 2020 13" M1 MBP is starting to have stagelights issue (flexgate). Can't believe it!!!

    • @hrissan
      @hrissan Рік тому

      That is bad. Plagued my iBook G3, I swapped cable twice (that was relatively easy these days, $5 for cable plus 1 evening to disassemble replace and assemble thing back). But instead of swapping cable in Air M1 I believe the whole top half with the screen will have to be replaced, that’s crazy amount of money.

  • @Hydrogen101
    @Hydrogen101 Рік тому +3

    Same! I edit on Final Cut Pro on my MBA 13” M1. I scrub through audio and 4K video off my 4TB thunderbolt external SSD and I’ve had zero issues. Effects and renders are lightening fast. The other day I thought about an M2 and I really didn’t see much difference since my M1 empties out my RAM faster than I can fill it. It’s been awesome!

  • @MattBraun
    @MattBraun Рік тому +2

    I couldn't believe that that I got a MacBook air a couple years back but with the M1 it just made total sense unless I needed to do heavy video editing. Recently though, I feel like the software updates, or lack of, have made the machine worse and not because of any capility issue

  • @carlosgsantiago
    @carlosgsantiago Рік тому +5

    M2 MacBook Air is also in the refurbished site. Closer to the M1 retail price… worth considering!

  • @sharpsbattle
    @sharpsbattle 9 місяців тому +1

    Saved up and got the m1 iPad Air. Super happy with it. Usb C, stereo, wifi 6, fast. Should be good for at least 5+ more years.

  • @rollingdown8699
    @rollingdown8699 Рік тому +3

    I got me M1 Pro base MacBook and I absolutely agree ....looks like I am not going to look for a new computer for a looooong time and I absolutely love the idea 🙂

  • @benwaardenburg
    @benwaardenburg Рік тому +1

    One thing I think people are missing with the Mac Pro was the PCI slots for music production. I would recmmend checking out Neil Parfitt and how he uses the Mac Pro to replace two trash can Mac Pros. He uses all the PCI slots to run very specific audio gear from Avid and the like. He uses the base GPU and the rest of the machine is basically filled with Avid cards and some other stuff. This is what Apple is missing, the professionals who have very specific hardware that integrates with Mac hardware.

  • @Hope_Yang
    @Hope_Yang Рік тому +3

    I got the M1 MBA like a year ago, just a few months before the M2 made it appearance and honestly, it’s still such a good freakin’ laptop. I am a college student so it runs all the programs I need to get things done without any hiccups! I do find that if a page has a lot of content on it, it’ll sometimes reload but that may be due to me getting the 8 GB of ram instead of the 16 GB (lesson learned for my next MacBook laptop purchase). Other than that, it still surprises me at how fast it loads things!
    It’s just hard for me to find a reason to upgrade from my M1 MBA when it’s still a beast. It can do exactly 80-90% of what the M2 version does, just in a smaller body. If the M3 MBA is amazing (and worth it) and if I’m willing to upgrade by then, it’ll be nice. But it is safe to say that I’ll definitely be keeping my M1 MBA for at least 2-3 more years from now.

  • @teohyc
    @teohyc Рік тому

    Just edited 8 days of event coverage with 4K footage on the M1 MBA and it was smooth and fast.

  • @isaiahsims__
    @isaiahsims__ Рік тому +3

    I'm on the last intel macbook pro and I can't wait to switch to apple silicon. I just don't know which one to get because the studio and mini are calling my name but i think i need portability.

    • @markmorov9301
      @markmorov9301 Рік тому +2

      m1 air is the best price/performance rate

    • @MattLong101
      @MattLong101 Рік тому +1

      You really cant go wrong with any one

    • @jbar_85
      @jbar_85 Рік тому +1

      I have had my MacBook Air M1 for 1.5 years now. I have been using it more for work then personal and it’s been fanatic. Even in low power mode it blazes through everything including non-M1 chip software when it uses that Rosetta program to run it.

  • @DaygoG
    @DaygoG Рік тому +1

    Honest question, I just bought the 1tb M2 MacBook Pro 16" space gray over the weekend. I have 2 weeks to return the thing if I want. Should I downgrade to the M1 just to get some money back? Or just keep the M2? New to Macs kind of, I've had company issued Macs before with the touch bar. But this is my 1st time purchasing one for myself.

    • @aerohydra3849
      @aerohydra3849 Рік тому +1

      If you’re not strapped for money I’d say to keep the m2. Sure it’s not a huge upgrade but it’s an upgrade nonetheless and I would not really want to go through the hassle of trying to return it.

  • @rikkidgermano9640
    @rikkidgermano9640 Рік тому +3

    As long as you do NOT have the touchbar. I was so happy with my M1 Macbook Pro until recently, after warranty expired, it started to flash. Sometimes it's off but for the most part, it's on. I am glad, I have an external display, so therefore it does not bother me that much. It is still an issue no one really knows why it started to happen and how to stop it. I have tried almost everything but so far, no solution.

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild Рік тому

      I've got a touch bar MBP and... loathe it to pieces.

    • @AnHebrewChild
      @AnHebrewChild Рік тому

      was that a Jony Ive thing? It's so very frustrating.

  • @takosenpai9883
    @takosenpai9883 Рік тому +2

    It's so insane haha. I used my MacBook Pro late 2012 till 2022. Yes it was frustrating the last years but i never needed really a lot of computing power. Then i got the chance to sell my 10 year old Macbook still for 180€ so i switched to an 14" MacBook Pro wit the M1 Pro. For me, it's such an quantum jump. I still see myself using this one for again 10 Years +. I never head even a little bit that feeling/fear of missing out with the updated version of the MacBook Pro M2's.
    Assuming, the M1 Architecture (Memory-Swap) don't kills my SSD's TBW lifespan too early.
    If Apple really is into sustainability they should extend the individual lifecycle of a MacBook lets say for total in two years until a new generation pops out. Free resources can be invested into better UX.

  • @CutiePi
    @CutiePi Рік тому +6

    They could just add thunderbolt external GPU support. You plug your macbook pro/mac mini etc to a beefy GPU when you need it.

  • @MaiElizabeth
    @MaiElizabeth Рік тому +1

    The M1 and M2 MacBook Air's price difference is 'serious'. Just for bigger and 'modern' screen won’t justify the extra bucks the M2 asking for.
    I'm talking about outside Malaysia. I know there is not much different in the US.

  • @marcoselielson8180
    @marcoselielson8180 Рік тому +3

    I regret getting a macbook air m1 cause I thought it could handle my needs in photoshop (not considered that high) but the 8gb of ram just got me and now here i am preparing to buy a windows pc.

    • @TheG60528XiJinPing
      @TheG60528XiJinPing Рік тому +1

      Welcome to adulthood

    • @rainbow28453
      @rainbow28453 Рік тому

      Yee see I've got the m1 air 16gb and it works perfectly for fairly advanced motion graphics and video editing (with proxies)

    • @DadShoeZuu
      @DadShoeZuu Рік тому +3

      Hate to say this but, that's sort of a rookie mistake. Photoshop even says it takes up 8 GB of ram alone on the packaging and website specs. You need at least 16gb on any computer basically. It would be worst with an 8gb PC...

    • @DadShoeZuu
      @DadShoeZuu Рік тому

      @@marcoselielson8180 Got it! All good. Peace from the USA brother. ✌🏽

    • @jbar_85
      @jbar_85 Рік тому +2

      Yeah I decided to make the invest money of 16gbs and 1TB of storage when I got my M1 Air because I didn’t want to experience this. I feel 16gbs should be the standard Ram to do even office work.

  • @Erbilforever
    @Erbilforever Рік тому

    I have the M1 Air and I just love it, Im not doing any professional work on it but still my favorite laptop to watch movies, browse the internet. I don't think an M1 owner should upgrade to M2 ones, especially because of the big price gap. What I paid for my M1 Air is considered expensive for me so I'm not gonna upgrade or change my laptop for at least 8 years

  • @rafaeldomenikos5978
    @rafaeldomenikos5978 Рік тому +4

    I agree those M1 Gen machines are so good. I got an M1 Pro 14” and an M1 iPad Pro. I think I am set for at least the next 3 years!

  • @dbtech4562
    @dbtech4562 Рік тому +2

    Upgraded my 2015 MacBook Pro to the MacBook M1 base ($800). It felt like an upgrade to me. Waiting for the M3 but surprised this is working out for me. Not a Final Cut Pro man.

  • @earnistse4899
    @earnistse4899 Рік тому +3

    M1 air is STILL the best price/performance laptop on the market almost 3 years after it’s release day. It’s regularly 799 at Amazon and Best Buy and the M1 chip is still super fast and efficient. Other laptop manufacturers can’t offer an 800 dollar machine with that kind of battery life and performance.

  • @morosis82
    @morosis82 Рік тому +2

    I use an M1 MBP for work and it's been pretty good. I don't know that it's better than something like a Ryzen based windows laptop except in battery life though, and that's the problem. I've actually had multiple issues with it that I've not seen on similarly speced windows machines. But if I did have a proper Dev engineer machine, at least I could go and throw whatever RAM I wanted in it.

  • @evroadtrips689
    @evroadtrips689 Рік тому +5

    Apple needs to do a 24 to 36 month refresh cycle on the new Mac's. They are too expensive to upgrade every year.

  • @LautaroLosio
    @LautaroLosio Рік тому

    Last year I bought my first laptop. I'm 22 years old and have always used my desktop pc. Since I got a programming job and have to attend more clases now I was in need of a laptop. I bought an M1 MB Air and I do not regret anything. The biggest pro is the battery life. There is no other laptop that can stand up to this absurd battery life and management. And the insane thing is that it's as powerful as my whole desktop pc. But it can fit in my bag. And it doesn't make any noise... It is truly magic

  • @JoshSher_
    @JoshSher_ Рік тому +4

    The ridiculous thing is, that the improvement from the M1 to the M2 is actually very big, compared to what you would see during intel times(correct me if I’m wrong).
    I thought it would be way less than that.
    So yes, the problem is really not that they were lazy after revolutionizing the industry. They actually innovated on they’re innovation, but M1 is just too good for most users to have any wishes left 🤯
    M2 was the first time when I didn’t think “wow! I need that new MacBook”, it was more like “Ah amazing! But I’m fine”😂

  • @ojtibi9906
    @ojtibi9906 Рік тому +1

    I love it when Marques shows his enthusiasm for a Mac Pro. :)

  • @ananyanarayandhanabalan
    @ananyanarayandhanabalan Рік тому +3

    I think it depends on the system you were using earlier as well... I went from a 2020 Intel Macbook Pro to a 22 M2 Macbook Air.
    While I did consider the M1 Macbooks as well the really great ones (M1 Ultra and M1 Max) were more expensive than the M2 Air. M2 Air also has a better screen, speakers, and camera. I was also taken with the Magsafe charger the M2 came with instead of the thunderbolt charger of the M1. I think if budget isn't a concern then M1 Mac pros are definitely the way to go as M2 pros are just far too expensive for essentially the same system, but the M2 air is definitely worth the $200 extra from the M1 Air IMO. However, as I said before, this is heavily dependent on the system you are currently using. Going from 2020 Intel to M2 Apple silicon was AMAZING for me personally, but if you already have M1 Apple silicon then the jump is mostly not worth making right now. The M1 can hold at least for a couple more years.

    • @coldacre
      @coldacre Рік тому

      I went from a 2020 Intel Macbook Air to a M2 Mac Mini Pro.... the biggest increase in performance I have ever seen, upgrading a Mac. staggering really...

  • @markaceto
    @markaceto Рік тому +2

    THANK YOU for this unbiased take. The Mac Pro, and all “pro” Mac’s, need hardware accelerated GPU’s for real time Ray tracing. That’s why Unreal Engine, Twinmotion, and other 3D design apps are still running in Rosetta 2 or Windows-only. If Apple can’t engineer that to work on their SOC, they’ve painted themselves into a corner again with a hardware bottleneck. The whole point of the most recent (3+ year old) Mac Pro was that it’s “modular”. I’m honestly about to give up hope for a new Mac Pro as long as Tim Cook is at the helm because that seems to be the innovation bottleneck.

  • @GlitterGuru
    @GlitterGuru Рік тому +3

    A refurbished M1 Air for

  • @osoriobmw0830
    @osoriobmw0830 Рік тому +1

    I have a fully spec’d M1 MBP 16” (aside from ram) and it’s hard to imagine ever needing to upgrade. Ever.
    So long as the updates keep rolling down to the original M1 this this is silky smooth.

    • @Neonyziee
      @Neonyziee Рік тому

      Got myself M1 MBP 16/512 two years ago and the only reason I would upgrade is for 14" 120Hz, which is not a reason to upgrade really, only a wish

  • @boardjewelry
    @boardjewelry Рік тому +3

    Rip mac

    • @joefilter2923
      @joefilter2923 Рік тому

      You found out the secret, Apple is failing and about to go under.

  • @we.visuals
    @we.visuals Рік тому +1

    M1 is really good. I have a maxed out 16” version. I run Final Cut Pro, parallels running power bi, multiple tabs of chrome, email, iMessage, and whole bunch of other smaller apps. Not a hiccup. Insane. Can’t imagine non power users needing anything more. It’s only a matter of time until gaming gets on the ARM platform.

    • @vacc1001
      @vacc1001 Рік тому +1

      parallels running power BI? Is it a arm based windows image then?

  • @AshtonCoolman
    @AshtonCoolman Рік тому +3

    I have an M1 iPad Pro and it's ridiculously overpowered for every ios software in existence

    • @jjpark98
      @jjpark98 Рік тому +2

      I got the M2 iPad Pro last year (my first ever iPad) and that thing dominates anything thrown at it and then some. It's safe to say I'm sticking with it for the next 5 years

    • @SanGraphic
      @SanGraphic Рік тому

      @@jjpark98 bro I’m using an iPad air 2 to reply to your msg, a 9yo chip on an 8yo ipad running iOS 15, it will probably last you 10 more years if its for content consumption

  • @AndrewVanGorder
    @AndrewVanGorder Рік тому

    I have the last intel MacBook Pro 16” and I’m trying to decide if it is a bad decision to jump to a m1 or m2 MacBook Air. My current MacBook gets so hot I can barely have it on my lap and also barely functions when plugged into a external monitor. I just do light photo/video editing.

  • @dannymartial7997
    @dannymartial7997 Рік тому +1

    You can tell Apple made the Mac Pro before they even knew they were capable of making their own Silicon. Because if they did, the Mac Pro hardware would have never existed. But releasing it, and pricing it as insanely as they did, they've backed themselves into a corner, so they HAVE to support it. Otherwise a lot of customers who bought the tower would be very disappointed that they were promised a modular, upgradable machine, only for it to last a single generation.

  • @sstteevveenn77
    @sstteevveenn77 Рік тому +2

    I got an M2 Pro MB Pro & honestly I’m happy af. Idc if people are hating on the M2’s…for those of us who were on an old laptop and are just now upgrading, its absolutely amazing.
    Its mostly the people that are fortunate enough to upgrade almost yearly who are the ones that hate on the M2 pro…so im cool with that

  • @TsReelTalk
    @TsReelTalk Рік тому

    I got the M1 Macbook Air with 256gb and 8gb ram. It is starting to slow down on me due to the fact I did get the lower end version, but it lasted me for 2 years and I have used it for EVERYTHING I do. Now I want to get the mac studio and it will have to be the M2 due to Apple not selling the M1s if I am correct?

  • @eortizfoto
    @eortizfoto Рік тому

    Picked an used base model MacBook air m1 99% battery for 550usd. This things flies even when editing 4K footage and raw photos. I think nothing can beat this machine at that price range.

  • @bibasik7
    @bibasik7 Рік тому +1

    I bought a used M1 MacBook Air in November 2022. I do miss MagSafe, but I've had no issues other than that.

  • @williambillyshears9129
    @williambillyshears9129 Рік тому

    Back in December of 2020 I purchased an 8GB/256GB M1 MacBook Pro. I've used it tirelessly. In March of this year, the audio only played in mono so I had to put it into Apple as I have Apple Care. 3 days later it was sent back to my local Apple Store perfectly fixed. Now my daughter uses that laptop. I went to BestBuy and bought a brand new M1 MacBook Air for 799.00 dollars. It's fast, it's fun, it's my go to computer. Yes, I said yes, this is the best Laptop for its price and performance for 2023 and don't waste time with an M2 because it throttles down unlike the M1 Air. Great video! 🌍PS You can get an M2 MacBook Air but you'll need a 1TB drive and 16GB RAM to not lose performance. 💻

  • @jonathanwongswiesan5687
    @jonathanwongswiesan5687 Рік тому

    I got the M1 Macbook pro 16 GB and the M1 Mac mini 16GB in jan 2020. They are still working great. I really never had a problem. I think it still can go for many years.

  • @mmonkeyman1403
    @mmonkeyman1403 Рік тому

    I have an M1 air for my casual browsing, hobby-level music production, and grad school work. Its so good that I honestly have no intentions to upgrade anytime soon.

  • @SFBayPhotographer
    @SFBayPhotographer Рік тому

    I've got a fully spec M2 16inch MBP. 96gb of RAM. I love it. Import 100+ 45mp photos in lightroom and thing is a tank. Not sure what the actual differences are but I like it.

  • @mihkellukats4773
    @mihkellukats4773 Рік тому

    As a Software engineer I'm working with 2017 macbook and waiting until I can program on iPad Pro (16"). From technical perspective I don't need to upgrade for years actually.

  • @RahulKapoor9992
    @RahulKapoor9992 Рік тому

    I had a early 2015 13” Macbook Air. Bought it in Feb 2016, I remember during covid, i would render small videos in iMovie in the summer (40+ Degrees C). The fan failed on me. The only way i could render it safely was to sandwich it between two ice packs. Worked like a charm. I still have it and if i get it serviced and spend what its worth (maybe more)… it should still work.
    When it officially died on me in October 2021, I got an iPad Pro 12.9” 256GB M1, I haven’t felt the need yet to upgrade to anything. Some minor compromises to be made. But i can always figure out a way to get the job done. If only the battery life was better…

  • @EdwardOrnelas
    @EdwardOrnelas Рік тому +2

    Yep, picked up an M1 Pro recently. saved $700 for only a 20% performance difference.

  • @esteres.choice
    @esteres.choice Рік тому

    Can you please tell me if I can’t get MacBook Air 13 M1 with 16gb ram, would be ok for a student to get base model??? Or it’s not a wise idea ?

  • @dan66789
    @dan66789 Рік тому

    I was using MacBook Pro 2013 Intel i7 , 256 SSD and 8 Gb Ram for 10 years. I paid around $2,240 USD. I bought this in in India from an Apple reseller. It was slowing down for me and the battery needed to be replaced and it kept heating up. It still works.
    After watching this video, I just upgraded to M1 MacBook Pro 1tb, 16 Gb ram. I paid $1,633 in Dubai. I got it from Amazon. Thanks MKBHD.

  • @slodoco
    @slodoco Рік тому

    This is why Mark Ass Brown Lee is the best. Good honest opinion, attacks things from many angles, but mostly the angles that matter. Bravo.

  • @SUBCHVRGE
    @SUBCHVRGE Рік тому

    as someone who does NOT upgrade things very often, i cant imagine I'll need anything else for a laptop for the foreseeable future. the M1 Pro was one of the best purchases i've ever made. so fast and reliable.

  • @iskaaa37
    @iskaaa37 Рік тому +1

    As a programmer, the M1 14 is the first MacBook Pro that I am truly happy with.
    In comparison, the Intel MacBook Pros I've had in the past have always had issues with performance and cooling. I was constantly keeping an eye out for upgrades that would improve things. Since I've had the M1, I'm just happy.
    Apple did too good. The 2-3 year upgrade cycle is over.

  • @Ftravelers
    @Ftravelers Рік тому

    I have an macbook pro with the m1 pro chip and I don’t see myself upgrading for now. My workflow with final cut, logic and my photos editing softwares are just great.

  • @isaakramsey6358
    @isaakramsey6358 Рік тому

    Upgraded from a 2015 15" Macbook Pro to a refurbished M1 Pro 14" Macbook Pro and was a ridiculous jump. I work with simple statistics programs (Stata, Tableau, etc) and this machine rips. Worth every penny and more.

  • @anilkalsi6026
    @anilkalsi6026 Рік тому

    I'm looking for a macbook pro now. should i try and source an M1 or just go with the M2