There is no thematic inconsistency with the TMNT content. Turtles in Time (i.e., transported to feudal Japan) is the 3rd live action movie. They absolutely fit in with this pan-Asian theming.
It's like time travel or dimensional travel, if you're approaching it from the side of the time travel or dimensional travel, then it makes sense. But if you're approaching it from the side of someone who wanted a medieval theme, then it's out of left field. You can throw dimensional travel into a Harry Potter story and it makes sense.
@@BoardGameCo - It's a story about magic (fantasy) time travel to medieval Asia. Nothing about that violates the theme of an Asian medieval fantasy game with magic... I mean, we've never seen time travel over that long a time in Harry Potter (that I know of). But I would have said exactly the same about a Harry Potter expansion to Black Plague. If we're in a universe with magic, then a crossover with an IP that already contains magic time travel makes perfect sense from both ends... 🤷🏾
The TMNT is actually what sold me on getting this. Prior to seeing the TMNT, I was like, I have enough Zombicide (with Marvel coming soon), I am going to pass. Then I saw the TMNT and decided I needed White Death. I am not thrilled with all of the extra survivors that currently are not pulling me in... maybe once I get them, I will find I like the plethora of options. I did purchase a handful of survivor packs for Black Plague.
I love BP & GH. So of course I need WD for the trilogy. Theme is all over the place, figures from multiple countries, cartoon characters, furies, gods, I think even anime. I personally think I’m going to be playing with the toons and furies. It’s a fantasy setting so why not. And yes, I backed Usagi Yojimbo, loved the comics, can’t imagine playing without him.
Marvel Zombies will be my first Zombicide, and thanks to my love of the comics, I'm much more excited about that one. I also really struggled with the thematic disconnect given how White Death was being advertised. Summer will be here before I know it and I'll have to find space for a ridiculous amount of Marvel minis. 😆 Plus, I have a feeling they'll get around to pirate Zombicide sooner than later.
Same here! Man, White Death looks cool. But I've got a BUNCH of Marvel Zombies coming in (it's my first Zombicide KS), and honestly, it might very well be my last, since the games DO play fairly similar to each other.
@BoardGameCo - what are your thoughts now the all in pledge has been revealed? Looks like we got extra zombies (yay) which I know you’d say is great for gameplay variation. I think the content is great even though the theme is a little “off” for me. For me it’s definitely worth backing. PS thanks for all your content, you’re the reason I got into ZBP in the first place 🎉
Shortly before this video was posted, they did announce the Massive Darkness 2 crossover buy-in. From the responses I could read about BP/GH Kickstarter re-releases, CMON apparently have said they were a "limited print run". So they probably won't be offered. I could be completely wrong and they could change their minds, but every time someone got a response to this, the response was basically, "Don't count on it".
I really thought this would be my first zombicide. Sold as a sequel/expansion to BP considered the best it seemed a no brainer. I did like the core box but everything else not so much from the theme to the art etc... so I ended getting a retail copy of undead or alive lol found some long dead walkers and having a blast :p
Thanks for this! I'm with you on the theme disconnect and that's really stopping me from backing this. I got 1 1$ pledge in just in case I change my mind. If one didnt back this KS, what game play changes do you recommend on keeping and incorporating with Black Plague? I know you already do a variation of the Necromancer and Abomination decks, but what else would you bring in from WD?
TMNT is the only reason I'm backing this. Every time a nostalgia heavy game hits KS (Marvel, MOTU, etc) a part of me has always wished that it was TMNT instead. I had so many TMNT toys when I was a kid! Can't wait, thanks for the advice!
as every day passes I have become more and more puzzled by the theme and direction. I have no problem with the Asian motif however a GOT nights watch theme is what we all thought about when this announced and what has been revealed has left me scratching my head. im 90% likely to cancelling my pledge especially since the Gloomhaven RPG and Minis are around the corner
Alex, I appreciate you making a video on White Death, explaining the reasons why you are backing it. I also appreciate your thoughts on which add-ons to purchase now. I would say, one important thing for me is to pay attention to which sets are KS exclusive and which are not. For instance, the Berserkers are KS exclusive so they won't be in stores later. The Crossfire pack is not KS exclusive. So that's also a determining factor for me. Mentioning that piece of info in your videos might be helpful for people as they seek to determine what to add and what not to add. Also, having backed past CMON Zombicide fantasy kickstarters, I think it's too early to predict that this isn't going to hit 3 million. From my past experience, the last 24 hours are when things really go crazy. So I'm going to make a prediction that White Death crosses at least the $4 million mark. Anyone else want to make a prediction?
Thank you for the video and your thoughts on Zombicide: White Death. As a backer of (Zombicide) ”Marvel Zombies”” do you think that White Death is sufficiently different to warrant getting? Also, you mentioned that getting the Kickstarter Exclusives might be a good thing; with the Crossfire Pack being available at retail, would it not make more sense to hold of on that, and getting Crossfire later - probably at a discount at retail - instead of here, where it would also just add to shipping costs?
Im looking at this late and comparing this to DCeased (which is out now). I think the DC game is a better choice for me. I like the asian theme a lot but not sure why they mixed animal people as well. Idk. I also didn’t get Marvel except maybe retail.
I was thinking about getting the Divine Beasts to get more abominations that seem unique, but I cooled a little after my initial I really want them. Not sure If I will get them or not at this point.
Today I saw they released the Massive Darkness crossover, just as you said; sadly no old content, I dont understand why, I would love to get something from blackplague, maybe some special guest etc.
I'm so unbelievably annoyed with the crossover pack for MD2... they make it only apply to stuff that'll be available at retail, but then make the crossover pack KSE...
@@BoardGameCo I have questions about the TMNT expansion... do I have to have White Death to play it, or can I snag it at retail and play it with Black Plague?
Frig! I was passing on this KS as I've never played any of the medival Zombicide but already have the modern zombie sets, UoA and Marvel coming. It didn't seem like a great time to jump in with no availability of purchasing Black Plague or Green Horde. But the walls! The walls! These really accentuate what I like about White Death... The Tower defense system. Arg! I passed on Undead or Alive, and regretted it as I loved the retail copy I got, and then went and purchased all the stuff I wanted from the Kickstarter sets on eBay at twice what I would have spent on KS. Now I'm afraid of making the same mistake. Stupid CMON. LOL!
I had hopes of this being a campaign I could back to add to my BP and GH. I liked the idea of the frozen north. But nothing else did it for me. It was a hard pass for me. Had they rereleased some original content to buy that I missed, I might have pulled the trigger on this to get those though. Missed money on their part, saved money on my part.
Massive Darkness 2 crossover is confirmed. It still doesn't convince me to go in, went all in on MD2 and Most of Green Horde (with the MD cross overs). There's enough content there to last forever and I told myself I would not back anymore CMON until Trudvang delivers. I might pick up the turtles and MD2 cross-over kit from the secondary market if it isn't too pricey, having the Turtles in MD can only be a net positive.
At this point I am planning to get the core box, the extra zombies and the battlements. The other survivor packs look great, but as someone with far too much content for Massive Darkness (1 and 2), I will have plenty with the core box?
I was excited for this one and immediately backed at the highest pledge. But when I saw the animal people, I dropped my pledge to $1. And then I cancelled my $1 pledge when TMNT was announced. Hard pass. 😢
I was so excited for this zombicide since BP/GH are my favorite. The name clearly made it seem like we would have some GoT references and we end up with an Asian theme which totally got me out of it. The only part that really got my attention was the TMNT the rest of the campaign it's sub par.
I have marvel zombies all in coming so am looking at this campaign entirely from a "what would i enjoy painting perspective". Originally i wasnt sure if i was even going to get the core box but some of the abominations look amazing and i want to paint them. I like the TMNT box, and will get that to paint the turtles. Will prob get the box with the chinese heroes as well cus the chonky boy looks class.
Yeah, TMNT just doesn't work for me. I have no kids pulling me into it (have kids, but there's no TMNT pull from them), nor really any connection to that IP myself. If the all-in ends up sufficiently attractive I may end up getting it and reselling it, but we'll see.
I agree to disagree. For me as an owner of everything that BP and GH bring to table, it's really waste of money to buy aditional zombies or abominations. There are new card decks so if I want to have more variety on the board, I will just take crows, deadeye, ghosts, rats ect. I don't need berserkers or dudes with crosbows🤷🏼♂️ I backed this project and picked TMNT (yeah Im a boomer), Eternal Empires (I'm very into long campaign games), MD2 + Divine Beasts (it's a good money value if you use this abominations pack in 2 games), walls and jade dices.
The first Zombicide I backed. I prefer the Asian theme over the previous western ones and the base pledge comes with more content than the Black Plague and Green Horde kickstarters. The add-ons are mostly more survivors so they're an easy pass aswell.
Should I just back every CMON game whether I plan to play it or not, at the base game level, and then sell the stretch goal box? Is that an effective use of my time? Core pledge + stretch goal box will sell for about $100 profit, right?
Is it worth all the bother? That’s up to you. But your logic holds. Backing at base to get the stretch goal box will usually be worth it if you are planning on reselling.
Is it worth it to own a zombicide game if I already own Cthulhu death may die (which I adore at 3-4 player, my usual player count) and Massive darkness II (which I don't enjoy as much at 3-4, seems fine at 2 but way too easy right now... seems like it would require a lot of house ruling to make it enjoyable). How does zombicide compares as far as difficulty? What's the best player count?
Not really. Cthulhu: Death May Die is a superior game system to Zombicide. And even that being said, this is a weird Zombicide. This feels like CMON was designing an Asian themed game that fell through, and they needed somewhere to use all the sculpts, so they pushed them into this Zombicide. Save your money and focus on Death May Die.
After looking over everything and all the crossover and theme of the game, I decided to pass on this one. As much as I love Zombicide, just don't think this one is for me.
Think they made it limited as want to sell other promo stuff like comics - I wish they would add in BP/MD2 crossover pack - I was silly not to get that - as didn't have BP at time - or realise the value of exclusive crossover cards
This is a pass for me. Not a fan of the mixed themes and I have enough Zombicide already. I'm off to r u m b I e. Thanks for the years of great content! Good luck!
We decided our first one is Undead or Alive and its amazing. White Death seems ok, but I dont like the asian theme to much. Also I think the corebox having only 6 Survivors is annoying. So defiantly one I will get later at retail and next buy will be undead or alive expansion
This is the easiest CMON campaign to pass on ever. Don't like the theme, don't like the art direction, don't like their "throw more plastic in there" methods. CMON is really just becoming more and more BLECH with every campaign. But as long as they keep finding an audience, they won't change. Luckily enough other publishers doing things better.
I don’t even have to watch the video to know that you shouldn’t back white death if you haven’t played any zombicide system. Cheaper price points to get into the zombicide game with other versions.
This campaign has been really weird. It's like somebody at CMON got mixed up and released the wrong stretch goals, as the core game and the unlocks seem so disconnected. Normally the KS exclusives and the added gameplay they bring would make a pledge worthwhile but here there are far too many survivors, of which very few are actually all that interesting. I was glad to see the MD2 Crossover pack released ........ until reading that it doesn't include cards to crossover any of the core enemies as mobs, instead giving you cards for enemies trapped in two of the addons. It's a joke
This Zombicide campaign is not great. The only thing that keeps me in it is that I somehow like the miniatures of the basegame zombies and guards and maybe the berserkers. I even doubt that the wall defense gameplay is good. I really didn't wish for the Asian stuff and especially not in this mish-mash kind of way. I have no use for most of those Asian miniatures and don't know to what origins they refer to. The worst thing about it is that it prevents CMON from doing a true Samurai Era Zombicide later down the line. It's sad. Not sure why CMON shoots themselves in the foot. It looks like they are scraping the bottom of the barrel although they don't have to because there are so many possibilities to make a good Medieval Fantasy Zombicide campaign with a focused theme (Samurai, Pirates, Vikings, GoT, Black Plague 2nd Edition, ...). It's actually hard for CMON to do badly because people buy anything they put on KS, but somehow they managed to suck this time. The campaign could easily have 1-2 million more if it had a focused theme and better gameplay. It looks like "White Death" could come out under UoA and that is pretty bad for a Medieval Fantasy Zombicide campaign because UoA was pretty niche and had less content, so that even CMON expected less success for it back then and was surprised when it slightly overperformed.
I'm still not happy with most of the stretchgoal characters and the whole asian martial arts etc. I hoped that they would have stuck with a more reasonable cast of characters but that's CMONs descion
There is no thematic inconsistency with the TMNT content. Turtles in Time (i.e., transported to feudal Japan) is the 3rd live action movie. They absolutely fit in with this pan-Asian theming.
It's like time travel or dimensional travel, if you're approaching it from the side of the time travel or dimensional travel, then it makes sense. But if you're approaching it from the side of someone who wanted a medieval theme, then it's out of left field. You can throw dimensional travel into a Harry Potter story and it makes sense.
@@BoardGameCo - It's a story about magic (fantasy) time travel to medieval Asia. Nothing about that violates the theme of an Asian medieval fantasy game with magic... I mean, we've never seen time travel over that long a time in Harry Potter (that I know of). But I would have said exactly the same about a Harry Potter expansion to Black Plague. If we're in a universe with magic, then a crossover with an IP that already contains magic time travel makes perfect sense from both ends... 🤷🏾
@@BoardGameCo no retard
The TMNT is actually what sold me on getting this. Prior to seeing the TMNT, I was like, I have enough Zombicide (with Marvel coming soon), I am going to pass. Then I saw the TMNT and decided I needed White Death. I am not thrilled with all of the extra survivors that currently are not pulling me in... maybe once I get them, I will find I like the plethora of options. I did purchase a handful of survivor packs for Black Plague.
I love BP & GH. So of course I need WD for the trilogy. Theme is all over the place, figures from multiple countries, cartoon characters, furies, gods, I think even anime. I personally think I’m going to be playing with the toons and furies. It’s a fantasy setting so why not. And yes, I backed Usagi Yojimbo, loved the comics, can’t imagine playing without him.
Marvel Zombies will be my first Zombicide, and thanks to my love of the comics, I'm much more excited about that one. I also really struggled with the thematic disconnect given how White Death was being advertised. Summer will be here before I know it and I'll have to find space for a ridiculous amount of Marvel minis. 😆 Plus, I have a feeling they'll get around to pirate Zombicide sooner than later.
Same here! Man, White Death looks cool. But I've got a BUNCH of Marvel Zombies coming in (it's my first Zombicide KS), and honestly, it might very well be my last, since the games DO play fairly similar to each other.
CMON strikes again! Massive darkness crossover released while the video was rendering.
Lol yep
The samurai warrior and dynasty warrior expansions are mandatory. That way warriors orochi can happen tabletop
It almost looks like the latest Cthulhu Death May Die might outdo this campaign, which is surprising to me.
Yes!
@BoardGameCo - what are your thoughts now the all in pledge has been revealed? Looks like we got extra zombies (yay) which I know you’d say is great for gameplay variation. I think the content is great even though the theme is a little “off” for me. For me it’s definitely worth backing.
PS thanks for all your content, you’re the reason I got into ZBP in the first place 🎉
Shortly before this video was posted, they did announce the Massive Darkness 2 crossover buy-in. From the responses I could read about BP/GH Kickstarter re-releases, CMON apparently have said they were a "limited print run". So they probably won't be offered. I could be completely wrong and they could change their minds, but every time someone got a response to this, the response was basically, "Don't count on it".
Yep, I'd be shocked if they were included at this point
I really thought this would be my first zombicide. Sold as a sequel/expansion to BP considered the best it seemed a no brainer.
I did like the core box but everything else not so much from the theme to the art etc... so I ended getting a retail copy of undead or alive lol found some long dead walkers and having a blast :p
Honestly retail core box is all you REALLY need for such a simple game. Of course, says the person with a MZ All-In coming.
How is TMNT a thematic disconnect? They travel to both feudal Japan and alternate feudal Japan (I
Yojimbo’s world) regularly. Yea
Thanks for this! I'm with you on the theme disconnect and that's really stopping me from backing this. I got 1 1$ pledge in just in case I change my mind.
If one didnt back this KS, what game play changes do you recommend on keeping and incorporating with Black Plague? I know you already do a variation of the Necromancer and Abomination decks, but what else would you bring in from WD?
What does putting $1 in on the pledge do?
@@darkflame710gets you into the pledge manager so you can decide later
Man tempted by the Massive Darkness tie-in...
:)
TMNT is the only reason I'm backing this. Every time a nostalgia heavy game hits KS (Marvel, MOTU, etc) a part of me has always wished that it was TMNT instead. I had so many TMNT toys when I was a kid! Can't wait, thanks for the advice!
Core for me. if I like it will pick up the non-exclusive stuff later
Enjoy it 🙂
as every day passes I have become more and more puzzled by the theme and direction. I have no problem with the Asian motif however a GOT nights watch theme is what we all thought about when this announced and what has been revealed has left me scratching my head. im 90% likely to cancelling my pledge especially since the Gloomhaven RPG and Minis are around the corner
I cancelled mine.
@@JasonSmithPsychedelicTherapist i just cancelled too!
I'm certain the crossover pack will end up on Miniature Market one day
Did the originals?
For the original MD, yes
just released MD2 crossover and yosaji yojimbo. I keep backing off but they keep reeling me back in.
They have a habit of doing that
Alex, I appreciate you making a video on White Death, explaining the reasons why you are backing it. I also appreciate your thoughts on which add-ons to purchase now. I would say, one important thing for me is to pay attention to which sets are KS exclusive and which are not. For instance, the Berserkers are KS exclusive so they won't be in stores later. The Crossfire pack is not KS exclusive. So that's also a determining factor for me. Mentioning that piece of info in your videos might be helpful for people as they seek to determine what to add and what not to add. Also, having backed past CMON Zombicide fantasy kickstarters, I think it's too early to predict that this isn't going to hit 3 million. From my past experience, the last 24 hours are when things really go crazy. So I'm going to make a prediction that White Death crosses at least the $4 million mark. Anyone else want to make a prediction?
I think will reach 3.5$...
@@patriziopastore9895 thanks for making a prediction!
Thank you for the video and your thoughts on Zombicide: White Death. As a backer of (Zombicide) ”Marvel Zombies”” do you think that White Death is sufficiently different to warrant getting? Also, you mentioned that getting the Kickstarter Exclusives might be a good thing; with the Crossfire Pack being available at retail, would it not make more sense to hold of on that, and getting Crossfire later - probably at a discount at retail - instead of here, where it would also just add to shipping costs?
I hope you were able to at least go down the street to Jessies place and play a round a year+ before the release. Keep up the great work Alex.
Thanks :)
The first and only zombicide I actually want to back and saw the price off all in after shipping and canadian exchange rate, I'll buy a ps5 instead
Yes.... That is sadly a problem with a lot of cmon kickstarters these days.
Im looking at this late and comparing this to DCeased (which is out now). I think the DC game is a better choice for me. I like the asian theme a lot but not sure why they mixed animal people as well. Idk. I also didn’t get Marvel except maybe retail.
I was thinking about getting the Divine Beasts to get more abominations that seem unique, but I cooled a little after my initial I really want them. Not sure If I will get them or not at this point.
You can always get it in retail it’s not KS exclusive
Today I saw they released the Massive Darkness crossover, just as you said; sadly no old content, I dont understand why, I would love to get something from blackplague, maybe some special guest etc.
I'm so unbelievably annoyed with the crossover pack for MD2... they make it only apply to stuff that'll be available at retail, but then make the crossover pack KSE...
Ya...that threw me off too
@@BoardGameCo I have questions about the TMNT expansion... do I have to have White Death to play it, or can I snag it at retail and play it with Black Plague?
Frig! I was passing on this KS as I've never played any of the medival Zombicide but already have the modern zombie sets, UoA and Marvel coming. It didn't seem like a great time to jump in with no availability of purchasing Black Plague or Green Horde. But the walls! The walls! These really accentuate what I like about White Death... The Tower defense system.
Arg! I passed on Undead or Alive, and regretted it as I loved the retail copy I got, and then went and purchased all the stuff I wanted from the Kickstarter sets on eBay at twice what I would have spent on KS. Now I'm afraid of making the same mistake.
Stupid CMON. LOL!
I had hopes of this being a campaign I could back to add to my BP and GH. I liked the idea of the frozen north. But nothing else did it for me. It was a hard pass for me.
Had they rereleased some original content to buy that I missed, I might have pulled the trigger on this to get those though. Missed money on their part, saved money on my part.
Going all in and just selling the character packs that don't add loot. I also want the MD2 stuff so to me I can recoup mor cash if I just go all in.
Lol nice
Massive Darkness 2 crossover is confirmed. It still doesn't convince me to go in, went all in on MD2 and Most of Green Horde (with the MD cross overs). There's enough content there to last forever and I told myself I would not back anymore CMON until Trudvang delivers. I might pick up the turtles and MD2 cross-over kit from the secondary market if it isn't too pricey, having the Turtles in MD can only be a net positive.
At this point I am planning to get the core box, the extra zombies and the battlements. The other survivor packs look great, but as someone with far too much content for Massive Darkness (1 and 2), I will have plenty with the core box?
I was excited for this one and immediately backed at the highest pledge. But when I saw the animal people, I dropped my pledge to $1. And then I cancelled my $1 pledge when TMNT was announced. Hard pass. 😢
Totally get it :(
I don’t need it but I’m going to back it. Probably get core plus the two Walker classes and the ninja turtles because I want to paint them
I was so excited for this zombicide since BP/GH are my favorite. The name clearly made it seem like we would have some GoT references and we end up with an Asian theme which totally got me out of it. The only part that really got my attention was the TMNT the rest of the campaign it's sub par.
Considering the fact I have not yet opened Zombicide Dark Side, and Undead or Alive, I can prob wait on this one. Otherwise, I would be interested.
I have marvel zombies all in coming so am looking at this campaign entirely from a "what would i enjoy painting perspective". Originally i wasnt sure if i was even going to get the core box but some of the abominations look amazing and i want to paint them. I like the TMNT box, and will get that to paint the turtles. Will prob get the box with the chinese heroes as well cus the chonky boy looks class.
Are late pledgers still able to obtain Daily Unlocks and Kickstarter Exclusives?
I wish the first ed stuff had kept its value as much the new stuff seems to, I still have the rue morgue in my garage and can never shift it
Is the crossfire equivalent to dead eye walkers? Are they the same or different enough to have both?
Similar but slightly different
I am all in on united and marvel zombies. I love some of this minis but I cant justify the spend.
Massive Darkness 2 pack is now out - that's the point where I started to take this campaign seriously.
Yeah, TMNT just doesn't work for me. I have no kids pulling me into it (have kids, but there's no TMNT pull from them), nor really any connection to that IP myself. If the all-in ends up sufficiently attractive I may end up getting it and reselling it, but we'll see.
Hearing you talk about it, it feels like kind of a GOT defend the wall against the white walkers sort of feel. It that’s the case sign me up!
I agree to disagree. For me as an owner of everything that BP and GH bring to table, it's really waste of money to buy aditional zombies or abominations. There are new card decks so if I want to have more variety on the board, I will just take crows, deadeye, ghosts, rats ect. I don't need berserkers or dudes with crosbows🤷🏼♂️ I backed this project and picked TMNT (yeah Im a boomer), Eternal Empires (I'm very into long campaign games), MD2 + Divine Beasts (it's a good money value if you use this abominations pack in 2 games), walls and jade dices.
I just want Monkeyan to tag along with Slithe and Jackalman.
Will the $10 pledge give one access to the pledge manger later?
TMNT 3 is why
The first Zombicide I backed. I prefer the Asian theme over the previous western ones and the base pledge comes with more content than the Black Plague and Green Horde kickstarters. The add-ons are mostly more survivors so they're an easy pass aswell.
So at the end there are multiple crossover... I will back the core game because is the best deal for me
Ty for this video!
I would have gotten this one if I hadn't gotten MZ. Between MZ, MU, and MC, I feel like it's a grand time to be a Marvel fan and a board gamer.
Should I just back every CMON game whether I plan to play it or not, at the base game level, and then sell the stretch goal box? Is that an effective use of my time? Core pledge + stretch goal box will sell for about $100 profit, right?
Is it worth all the bother? That’s up to you. But your logic holds. Backing at base to get the stretch goal box will usually be worth it if you are planning on reselling.
Do you recommend the terracat pack they just dropped?
Is it worth it to own a zombicide game if I already own Cthulhu death may die (which I adore at 3-4 player, my usual player count) and Massive darkness II (which I don't enjoy as much at 3-4, seems fine at 2 but way too easy right now... seems like it would require a lot of house ruling to make it enjoyable). How does zombicide compares as far as difficulty? What's the best player count?
Not really. Cthulhu: Death May Die is a superior game system to Zombicide. And even that being said, this is a weird Zombicide. This feels like CMON was designing an Asian themed game that fell through, and they needed somewhere to use all the sculpts, so they pushed them into this Zombicide. Save your money and focus on Death May Die.
@@shanerion Thanks for the info !
I would just buy the TMNT alone and play that as a quick stand alone game
Don't two of them make it to the end of Seven Samurai alive?
After looking over everything and all the crossover and theme of the game, I decided to pass on this one. As much as I love Zombicide, just don't think this one is for me.
Nice! Money saved!
MD2 crossover pack came in the latest update
Think they made it limited as want to sell other promo stuff like comics - I wish they would add in BP/MD2 crossover pack - I was silly not to get that - as didn't have BP at time - or realise the value of exclusive crossover cards
This is a pass for me. Not a fan of the mixed themes and I have enough Zombicide already. I'm off to r u m b I e. Thanks for the years of great content! Good luck!
Crossover pack for ms has been announced within minutes of your posting this.
Lol yep
There's no way I'm backing anything else from CMON until they deliver the much delayed 2nd wave of Trudvang.
We decided our first one is Undead or Alive and its amazing. White Death seems ok, but I dont like the asian theme to much. Also I think the corebox having only 6 Survivors is annoying. So defiantly one I will get later at retail and next buy will be undead or alive expansion
Undead is incredible, a good choice
I’m guessing you meant “definitely”, and not “defiantly”, right?
This is the easiest CMON campaign to pass on ever. Don't like the theme, don't like the art direction, don't like their "throw more plastic in there" methods.
CMON is really just becoming more and more BLECH with every campaign. But as long as they keep finding an audience, they won't change.
Luckily enough other publishers doing things better.
I love too many of their games. As long as they keep doing that, they'll get my money.
Gonna pass the amount of add-ons they have is ridiculous.
I don’t even have to watch the video to know that you shouldn’t back white death if you haven’t played any zombicide system. Cheaper price points to get into the zombicide game with other versions.
This campaign has been really weird. It's like somebody at CMON got mixed up and released the wrong stretch goals, as the core game and the unlocks seem so disconnected.
Normally the KS exclusives and the added gameplay they bring would make a pledge worthwhile but here there are far too many survivors, of which very few are actually all that interesting. I was glad to see the MD2 Crossover pack released ........ until reading that it doesn't include cards to crossover any of the core enemies as mobs, instead giving you cards for enemies trapped in two of the addons. It's a joke
This Zombicide campaign is not great. The only thing that keeps me in it is that I somehow like the miniatures of the basegame zombies and guards and maybe the berserkers.
I even doubt that the wall defense gameplay is good.
I really didn't wish for the Asian stuff and especially not in this mish-mash kind of way. I have no use for most of those Asian miniatures and don't know to what origins they refer to. The worst thing about it is that it prevents CMON from doing a true Samurai Era Zombicide later down the line. It's sad. Not sure why CMON shoots themselves in the foot. It looks like they are scraping the bottom of the barrel although they don't have to because there are so many possibilities to make a good Medieval Fantasy Zombicide campaign with a focused theme (Samurai, Pirates, Vikings, GoT, Black Plague 2nd Edition, ...).
It's actually hard for CMON to do badly because people buy anything they put on KS, but somehow they managed to suck this time. The campaign could easily have 1-2 million more if it had a focused theme and better gameplay. It looks like "White Death" could come out under UoA and that is pretty bad for a Medieval Fantasy Zombicide campaign because UoA was pretty niche and had less content, so that even CMON expected less success for it back then and was surprised when it slightly overperformed.
The answer is "no".
Slow down… breath… in… out…
You’re speaking so fast it’s hard to hear what you’re saying.
I think this might have the best gameplay with the worst theme
I'm still not happy with most of the stretchgoal characters and the whole asian martial arts etc. I hoped that they would have stuck with a more reasonable cast of characters but that's CMONs descion