I think a mix would be great. It's always good to get the breakdown and explanation of the deck, but sometimes the initial selection and thought process behind it is extremely helpful to see too.
I think one fell specter out for a third Davriel is a good idea because he pings and help with the aggressiveness of the deck. He is also good against other aggressive decks because he can take a hit or two =)
Was hoping for hypnotic specter only for the nostalgia. I played that card back in the 90s, much more than it was probably warranted. Great content as always and the added deck building intro was fantastic
@@willang3433 Yes, oh yes! The following happened to me while playing against Trix combo. Land, Ritual, Duress, Sinkhole. Land, Tourach. Land Spectre. The guy wasn't happy.
Honestly, the biggest skills of LegenVD is to be always chill. I'm already at a point where I want to punch a hole in my desk if I just see a thought eraser
I truly don't know what Wizards was expecting by unbanning Field of the Dead. My Historic experience these days has been: FotD, Teferi or Vampires (always featuring at least 2 Adanto Vanguard on the opening hand). lol
Agreed. I'm already tired of Field of the Dead personally. There are quite a number of Gruul decks in BO1 as well. They can have backbreaking openings sometimes with Burning Tree Shamans. I've fought 3x mono red in a row this morning and they are super efficient as well. One might say these are all Embercleave decks though ;) Still enjoy the format way more than standard right now.
Yeah, for some reason they thought that adding to the anthology a couple hate cards that are only playable in some decks' sideboard (and not very good even there) would've made FotD fair. In fact, cards like Maelstrom Pulse and Ghost Quarter ended up being powerful tools for FotD decks :/
@@joao17771Yes, that's what I was talking about. That's a bad sideboard-only card and only for decks playing black. You drop it and they just win with Golos, Yarok, Cavalier of Thorns, Risen Reef, Krasis or whatever value engine they have while you've wasted 3 mana doing nothing. I'm not saying there should be a sideboard card that grants you 100% win chance against Field, I'm saying that, since they wanted to unban it, they should've added some mainboard playable cards that are good against Field and fine playables overall.
This draft was a ton of fun, its great seeing these homebrew on the spot decks beat decks like field of the dead. I also loved the inclusion of the stormfist crusader, at times it felt like it help your ops, in the last game white would have been mana screwed without it, but the benefit of the extra draw outside of being able to have op discard something every turn was having the extra card for ourselves so we could fill our yard with burn spells. Another great draft, best MTG creator around!
Love the new format! Quick note for learning purposes, at 25:15 you missed lethal. If you play Rankle and attack with both crusaders your opponent can only block 2 damage so they will take 5 from combat and 1 from the draw ability on Rankle for a total of 6. Then you can Skewer the Critics their face for the last 3 damage. Thanks for the videos - always a treat!
Such a cool deck! Also really like Rakdos. And you managed to build a discard deck that not awkwardly loses even if it suceeds at what it tries to do, which most of them do, lol.
I tried a mono black variant with cat oven midnight reaper to get easy spectacle triggers on drill bit, ping them down early and make sure we're ahead in cards when we make them discard. Worked pretty well too. Other creatures I used are Nightmare Shepherd and Cavalier of Night to synergize with Oven, our discard creatures and Midnight Reaper. I find Bojuka Bog to be a nice addition to the deck as well, since it negates any benefit they may get from discarding things from their hand when it comes down. Also mono black allows for easy 3 copies of ghost quarter to counter FotD.
Just built a Dimir version of this the other day, I love this archetype! EDIT: I've also been wanting to utilize the synergy between Scheming Symmetry and Vicious Rumors too. Not sure how good it would be, but it seems like a funny combo...
Today I lost 3 ranked drafts in a row at 0 wins to mana flood/screw (I once went 12 turns without drawing land 3). I got so angry. Your chill demeanour is hella impressive.
14:47, 16:18, I also want to see through my opponent's deck after he played the very first land. 18:47, It is also nice to see through my opponent's hand in turn 3. How should I know my opponent has Gitrog (20:30) when he discards a Nissa (19:35)? 21:55, I also want to dominate my opponent in a match up supposed to be "tough". 34:13 And the last, that happy face looks so cute... sadly I never have a chance to click it...
When you build the deck, like this one, it is because you did it while streaming. I personally prefer to watch the stream or the VODs because your chat suggests stuff and it's more a "let's build something together" kind of approach. For youtube, both approaches work nicely, because, well, you are good at what you do anyway, so... No preferences. :D
1. I love all of your content! (Tbh with deckbuilding is really good) 2. If you don't have angrath, what would you do? (I just have 4 mythic WCs over, but 5-6 unfinished decks needing 9-10 mystics to complete them) Keep up the good work! You're by far the best mtg content creator!
I feel like in this deck skewer is pretty much a win more card because if you are ahead it works great, but if you are behind you really don't want to play a 3 mana lighting strike
Or if you have any way of triggering spectacle, which you can do even from behind. He won the first game without being ahead because he had 8 burn spells instead of 4 in his deck.
It's maybe a bit narrow, but what about Syr Konrad? The first ability also triggers from discard and second one provides a mana sink to waste not the two black mana.
@@LegenVD yes of course, you're a really good player I think it's easy to watch and say these things, while you're playing and are under pressure it's possible not to notice every single point of damage
on a side note, when i first started playing in the mid nineties, you might have been put into an asylum for not having a playset of hippies in your discard deck... now not so much. still love it though. maybe the next historic set we get will include hymn to tourach and mind twist lol. mono black rando discard ftw! ill even take stupor and specters wail.
I've been playing a jumpstart deck the last two days with a discard focus and it's been a good time. Do you think any of those new cards would make it into this deck? I'm thinking of crafting this but there seemed to be some solid potential upgrades in the new cards. Would love to know your thoughts, or even to see a new video with some JS-augmented updates. :) If you were feeling inspired. Great video, as always!
I love discard decks. Currently working on a standard Grixis discard deck, unfortunately I'm lacking wildcards to finish it. It just takes forever to build/collect a proper a card collection, especially when you mostly get trash cards in packs.
25:31, skewer the critics on face, attack with all and krenko's ability to draw 1 and lose 1 life, and you could have won this turn; 9 life against your 8 life decision
Curious as to why Murderous rider was excluded. Deck seems super soft to Nissas on the field, which is a constant since wizards in their infinite wisdom unbanned FotD. UGx Lands is kinda stupid rn. I wouldve played Riders over strikes and *Possibly a couple Ghost Quarters. But maybe thats just me.
why not just discard with land destruction? if you cant play the cards you draw, you can them discard later...some card draw for yourself, and a fun anti fun deck is made.
I hate discard decks honestly. Magic isn't very fun when you don't even have cards to play. Feel the same way about discard decks as I do counter decks. Just kind of against the spirit of the game. I dunno.
Chairman Meow counter and discard are both very much part of the spirit of magic. As In the spirit of magic both strategies can be countered by other decks. Silly comment
Necromancy For Kids I play simic flash with a million counters and I can tell you that anyone who gets to resolve a good one drop or 2 drop like mono red or knight of the ebon legion or mono white before I can have quench ready is a huge problem for me. Unless I have unsummon effects in hand and sometimes that doesn’t save me either
![Mono Black Midrange VS Rakdos Transmogrify MTG Pioneer]](/img/n.gif)
Let me know if you prefer these videos where the deck is being built at the start or the more traditional intro.
As always, I prefer the thinking as you work through it. Helps me in my own thinking; otherwise, I'm just a dirty netdecker! ;)
I think a mix would be great. It's always good to get the breakdown and explanation of the deck, but sometimes the initial selection and thought process behind it is extremely helpful to see too.
Dear LegenVD, I crafted your Angels lifegain deck, with the addition of anth 2and theros, would you c hange any of the cards? Thank you
I enjoy this style
I think one fell specter out for a third Davriel is a good idea because he pings and help with the aggressiveness of the deck. He is also good against other aggressive decks because he can take a hit or two =)
Was hoping for hypnotic specter only for the nostalgia. I played that card back in the 90s, much more than it was probably warranted. Great content as always and the added deck building intro was fantastic
You and me both!
Same. Turn one dark ritual into Spectre turn two Hymn to Tourach was usually insta-concede
@@willang3433 Ah, those were the times... But also kinda not. :P
@@willang3433 Yes, oh yes! The following happened to me while playing against Trix combo. Land, Ritual, Duress, Sinkhole. Land, Tourach. Land Spectre. The guy wasn't happy.
Honestly, the biggest skills of LegenVD is to be always chill. I'm already at a point where I want to punch a hole in my desk if I just see a thought eraser
@22Japheth Theobald Yeah, like 10 minutes ago and then was hit with two casualties along the way. Fun game
Thought Erasure?! That card is tame. We need thoughtseize in standard.
I truly don't know what Wizards was expecting by unbanning Field of the Dead. My Historic experience these days has been: FotD, Teferi or Vampires (always featuring at least 2 Adanto Vanguard on the opening hand). lol
Sideboard helps there!
Agreed. I'm already tired of Field of the Dead personally.
There are quite a number of Gruul decks in BO1 as well. They can have backbreaking openings sometimes with Burning Tree Shamans.
I've fought 3x mono red in a row this morning and they are super efficient as well.
One might say these are all Embercleave decks though ;)
Still enjoy the format way more than standard right now.
Yeah, for some reason they thought that adding to the anthology a couple hate cards that are only playable in some decks' sideboard (and not very good even there) would've made FotD fair. In fact, cards like Maelstrom Pulse and Ghost Quarter ended up being powerful tools for FotD decks :/
Virulent plague
@@joao17771Yes, that's what I was talking about. That's a bad sideboard-only card and only for decks playing black. You drop it and they just win with Golos, Yarok, Cavalier of Thorns, Risen Reef, Krasis or whatever value engine they have while you've wasted 3 mana doing nothing. I'm not saying there should be a sideboard card that grants you 100% win chance against Field, I'm saying that, since they wanted to unban it, they should've added some mainboard playable cards that are good against Field and fine playables overall.
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25:15 you missed lethal here you couldve gone face with skewer and just played rankle, attack with all then they lose 1 from the rankle
yeah was just gonna comment that :P
its always fun seeing you build decks like this from scratch. love this vid!
This draft was a ton of fun, its great seeing these homebrew on the spot decks beat decks like field of the dead. I also loved the inclusion of the stormfist crusader, at times it felt like it help your ops, in the last game white would have been mana screwed without it, but the benefit of the extra draw outside of being able to have op discard something every turn was having the extra card for ourselves so we could fill our yard with burn spells. Another great draft, best MTG creator around!
Thanks for providing top notch content and entertainment during these proving times, LVD.
You're the best
34:16
"It was alright." xD
Really happy to have come across your videos - your deck building is really interesting and always seem very good 🙌
The best arena gameplay!
Love the new format! Quick note for learning purposes, at 25:15 you missed lethal. If you play Rankle and attack with both crusaders your opponent can only block 2 damage so they will take 5 from combat and 1 from the draw ability on Rankle for a total of 6. Then you can Skewer the Critics their face for the last 3 damage. Thanks for the videos - always a treat!
Good catch!
I would love to see more decks you build from the ground up like in this video.
Heh. I just finished reading Children of the Nameless, which features Davriel. :)
Funny to immediately see him make an appearance in your deck!
Such a cool deck! Also really like Rakdos.
And you managed to build a discard deck that not awkwardly loses even if it suceeds at what it tries to do, which most of them do, lol.
i love seeing the deckbuilding process in the video! give us moreeeee
I tried a mono black variant with cat oven midnight reaper to get easy spectacle triggers on drill bit, ping them down early and make sure we're ahead in cards when we make them discard. Worked pretty well too. Other creatures I used are Nightmare Shepherd and Cavalier of Night to synergize with Oven, our discard creatures and Midnight Reaper. I find Bojuka Bog to be a nice addition to the deck as well, since it negates any benefit they may get from discarding things from their hand when it comes down. Also mono black allows for easy 3 copies of ghost quarter to counter FotD.
Like always great stuff LVD.
Waste Not seems like a really fun build around. Keep up the great videos!
ive been missing your modern videos, so im glad ive gotten a few historic in a row! now they just need to add everything legal in pioneer to arena lol
As a reckless player watching your videos really help me to be more considerate in building deck and casting spell, haha
Just built a Dimir version of this the other day, I love this archetype!
EDIT: I've also been wanting to utilize the synergy between Scheming Symmetry and Vicious Rumors too. Not sure how good it would be, but it seems like a funny combo...
Until they search for Uro 😋
ashiok + scheaming symmetry :) no tutoring for them .
@@antti3779 Ashiok says "spells your opponent control's" so they could still search their library with scheming symmetry if you cast it.
@@meagherman1013 yeah, i realized that yesterday playing arena :D took me one year
@@meagherman1013 but you can still mill the card from the top and exile it , and thats almost as good
Today I lost 3 ranked drafts in a row at 0 wins to mana flood/screw (I once went 12 turns without drawing land 3). I got so angry. Your chill demeanour is hella impressive.
Yeah it's pretty hard to work on a tilt-prone mindset. Good luck, I feel you ^^
enjoyed the deck building content
While I understand the lack of Carnival//Carnage, it still makes me S A D
it seems good, since it also is able to make spectacle happen as carnival
You could play it as a 2-of over some Fell Specters.
Waste Not + Underworld Dreams. Get 'em coming, get 'em goin'
Help us LVD; you're our only hope.
Dude, I really enjoy your vids
14:47, 16:18, I also want to see through my opponent's deck after he played the very first land.
18:47, It is also nice to see through my opponent's hand in turn 3.
How should I know my opponent has Gitrog (20:30) when he discards a Nissa (19:35)?
21:55, I also want to dominate my opponent in a match up supposed to be "tough".
34:13 And the last, that happy face looks so cute... sadly I never have a chance to click it...
When you build the deck, like this one, it is because you did it while streaming. I personally prefer to watch the stream or the VODs because your chat suggests stuff and it's more a "let's build something together" kind of approach.
For youtube, both approaches work nicely, because, well, you are good at what you do anyway, so... No preferences. :D
1. I love all of your content! (Tbh with deckbuilding is really good)
2. If you don't have angrath, what would you do?
(I just have 4 mythic WCs over, but 5-6 unfinished decks needing 9-10 mystics to complete them)
Keep up the good work!
You're by far the best mtg content creator!
Probably add a Davriel and a Fell Specter. Can also try out Carnival / Carnage.
@@LegenVD Thank you!
I feel like in this deck skewer is pretty much a win more card because if you are ahead it works great, but if you are behind you really don't want to play a 3 mana lighting strike
Or if you have any way of triggering spectacle, which you can do even from behind. He won the first game without being ahead because he had 8 burn spells instead of 4 in his deck.
George Roman you might be right that more born is necessary. still it feels really bad and there might be better options in historic
It's maybe a bit narrow, but what about Syr Konrad? The first ability also triggers from discard and second one provides a mana sink to waste not the two black mana.
Has anyone used Haunt of Hightower in a historic Waste Not deck? Maybe rakdos Waste Not with cards that give haste?
Jank you for the great content
Oh hey SuperMadLad (your second opponent) is another youtuber I sometimes watch!
StaticShock he’s old school Magic Duels like LVD and I :)
Have you played this deck much since the build and if so, have you made any changes?
OB nixillis looks awesome here since he can make player draw and discard
I love your videos and I truly enjoy your commentary, but I get so angry when you miss lethal hahaha xD
Good thing it doesn't happen that often.
@@LegenVD yes of course, you're a really good player I think it's easy to watch and say these things, while you're playing and are under pressure it's possible not to notice every single point of damage
Always up vote historic
on a side note, when i first started playing in the mid nineties, you might have been put into an asylum for not having a playset of hippies in your discard deck... now not so much. still love it though.
maybe the next historic set we get will include hymn to tourach and mind twist lol. mono black rando discard ftw! ill even take stupor and specters wail.
Dark Ritual is what we really need.
@@LegenVD yep, DR made hippie good. As it did for many other cards
I've been playing a jumpstart deck the last two days with a discard focus and it's been a good time. Do you think any of those new cards would make it into this deck? I'm thinking of crafting this but there seemed to be some solid potential upgrades in the new cards. Would love to know your thoughts, or even to see a new video with some JS-augmented updates. :) If you were feeling inspired. Great video, as always!
Will probably get to an updated discard deck at some point.
would love to see you build some bo3s decks for historic classic ranked too
Why not playing those in a league or ranked?
I love your videos! ^__^
Shoutout to SuperMadLad (opponent #2), I used to watch him and Legend 3-4 years ago during Magic Duels.
Question??? Would you say you Spanked or Whipped your Opponent's?
Discard deck without Enemy of enlightmet?
It's not very good.
I love discard decks. Currently working on a standard Grixis discard deck, unfortunately I'm lacking wildcards to finish it. It just takes forever to build/collect a proper a card collection, especially when you mostly get trash cards in packs.
How are you playing non-ranked historic? Are you using random matches via friend requests?
If you go to "play" and queue up with a historic deck you can play against others. Also there is historic bo1 and 3 events always active.
BELL GANG 🔔
25:31, skewer the critics on face, attack with all and krenko's ability to draw 1 and lose 1 life, and you could have won this turn; 9 life against your 8 life decision
Looking for magikarps?
Curious as to why Murderous rider was excluded. Deck seems super soft to Nissas on the field, which is a constant since wizards in their infinite wisdom unbanned FotD. UGx Lands is kinda stupid rn. I wouldve played Riders over strikes and *Possibly a couple Ghost Quarters. But maybe thats just me.
14:02 bruh I would’ve been so mad as that player, but he deserved it for playing field of the dead lmao 🤣
9 seconds ago. Ain't ever been that early
nicol bolas: "NOOOOOOOOO"
We will waste not
why not just discard with land destruction? if you cant play the cards you draw, you can them discard later...some card draw for yourself, and a fun anti fun deck is made.
When I was this early i didn't even know what's mtg
A discard deck that's viable? cool
Imagine playing against Lvd in person and you play your srcy land to start, and he then says outloud the deck you have and cards in your hand...
and then he calls maelstrom pulse...
I hate discard decks honestly. Magic isn't very fun when you don't even have cards to play. Feel the same way about discard decks as I do counter decks. Just kind of against the spirit of the game. I dunno.
Chairman Meow salty
Chairman Meow counter and discard are both very much part of the spirit of magic. As In the spirit of magic both strategies can be countered by other decks. Silly comment
Necromancy For Kids I play simic flash with a million counters and I can tell you that anyone who gets to resolve a good one drop or 2 drop like mono red or knight of the ebon legion or mono white before I can have quench ready is a huge problem for me. Unless I have unsummon effects in hand and sometimes that doesn’t save me either
@@NecromancyForKids get good, play better and you can play around counter decks
Blue Pajama Gamers I'm not salty cussed I don't find winning with those types of decks very fun either