This is why EKTAR is the Best!
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2022
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Today we are heading to The Getty to shoot some some of my favorite film ever... KODAK EKTAR. I love the colors that Ektar gives me and the light was amazing in this location. Today we will see how pushing this film 3 stops looks .... so lets dive on in!
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Camera:
Mamiya 645
Lens:
45mm
Bag:
Brevite - Jumper
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Film:
Kodak Ektar 100
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I see bad flashes I click… or have a seizure
can you get a sponsor that will get us 1 month of free beer instead? :)
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Oh I wish. Let me work on that :)
The music in this ep is what I inagine your inner monologue sounds like when trying to pick a camera or film to shoot.
Hahaha 100% yes you get me. 🥰
I saw the Mapplethorpe retrospective when it was held at the Ghetty in 2013. It changed my life. The pictures, when seen in person, really made you look. His roses were technically perfect, never seen such a beautiful print since. They had a large silver-gelatin print of Diane Arbus's Twins. They had William Eggleston's original Tricycle print that used dye transfer to make the print, it looked like a water color, floating just above the paper. I walked out of the exhibit for golden hour and I was the saddest person on the tram because I did not have a camera to catch the sun setting behind downtown LA. I picked up my film cameras after that, it seemed like the right thing to do. Pushing Ektar reminds me of that Eggelston. I've also taken to pushing everything one stop because I like darker shadows.
Ektar pushed is something I have never heard. Wow. I also have been slacking. I say Ektar is one of my favorites and I havnt shot a roll in 120 yet and a 35mm in 2 years. Oops. Okay, I like Pushed better after those first couple shots. The grain seems to be very fine even pushed, im shocked tbh. The addition of blue is shocking and or interesting, wouldnlt expect that. Good day sir
Thanks yo! Dude Ektar for life …. It’s so so so good. 😋😋😋
I've pushed it here and there, and enjoy seeing the real world examples! I'll *probably* stick to box speed, but Ektar is definitely one of my favorites, and I like that this is proof it's more versatile than people say it is.
I mean right. I dig it at box so much but yeah it’s great all around.
I like the airy look that the box speed supplies but that contrast on the +3 is also Crispyyy. Well done my friend!
Thanks duder :)
Both really does preform lovely. 😆☺️
First time I saw Ektar pushed this far... The pushed tones are amazing 🤩 the deep tones you got out of those blues and greens are incredible ✨ Guess I'll have to push some ektar myself too... Nice video, congrats 👏
Awesome glad you like it! It is kinda far to push but I think it worked well. Glad you agreed :)
Great video dude! Ektar doesn’t get enough love. It’s one of my favorites. I like the box speed results too much to push it but I’m glad to know it holds up if I ever forget to change the settings on my light meter lol
Right. That’s all I’m here for haha showing what happens when. Box looks great. I’m shooting it tomorrow
Loved this. I was an architecture student in California and visited Getty centre a few times and took a bunch of shots. This was when it just opened in 98. I love ektar, printing on enlarger I find it very difficult focusing on grain with my mamiya 7
Oh yeah I can see that. I haven’t printed with it yet. But down toooo
Glad to hear some Ektar love, it's great film. 2 stops is a bit much but it worked well with some of the flatter scenes. It's fun watching you have fun experimenting with film, thanks for another great video!
Hells yeah! Thanks for the video love 💗
That push looks great. I’d never thought to do that with Ektar. 😮 Thanks for making this video. 🙌
Of course! Glad you did it! Ektar is always a good choice
How cool, good to know it's pushable with good results
Right!!!! Push it like cra 🤣
I may push Ektar like this on my pinhole photos. Since pinhole shots are more like paintings than photos, you want saturation and really blue skies. I’ll try that out with and without a polarizer
Oh that’s awesome
Love the cauliflower photo pushed. Had this eerie, motel room lighting vibe that was really unique. Might have to try.
Motel vibe got a love it!!!!
Nicely done. Props to Lauren for taking quality video and being ever so patient while doing so. Truly the unsung hero of these videos. Dig the videos. After I get more experience in with my pentax and nikon 35mm cameras, I plan on getting the Pentax 645 or Mamiya 645. Good to see you're getting some time in with the Mamiya after the Pentax took a 💩
Hahah she is the best!!! Puts up with all my shit haha
You can’t go wrong with a wonderful 645 😆
@@BadFlashes ❤️💯
Hey Caleb. Great episode. I have been reluctant to push Ektar 100. Pushing it at Golden hour with no or little shadows looks great.
Oh thanks! So glad you liked the episode!
the music is everything
Thanks 😊
I have to agree with you on that Caleb! Shooting portraits on Ektar 100 Is great! Cheaper than Portra and has great color tones that just work in my work flow. Not sure about pushing it to ASA 800 but definitely shoot it a box speed for better results. Great looking location shoot though!
Yeah I get that for sure. Pushing was just to see how it handled. But yeah ektar is great
I pushed two rolls of Ektar to ISO400 and both of them came out great. Love the colourshifts.
Right the color shifts are not all that bad
Great video and excellent point on the grain!
Oh thanks. Glad you dig!!!! :)
It seems like ektar has enough shadow detail at box speed that pushing it 3 stops doesnt really degrade the image. I prefer the pushed negative since it has a cinematic vibe to it where shadow-midtone of the image has punchy saturation. Love the episode!
Aw thanks! Pushing is fun!
The shadows rock
Another awesome upload. Nicely done.
Thanks thanks thanks.
I dig the contrast. I has a very movie film look to it pushed to 800.
Love that. That’s yoo! I also love me some 800
Nice one!! Loved it! I haven't shot Ektar in ages!! brings it all back!
Thanks!!
Do it. Shoot it again!!!!!!! 😆
1:44 Whaaaaaat! I love the pushed image, I thought this was just going to be a waste of $10 of film but I want to try it now. Maybe dialing it back to 2 stops if it low golden hour light, but I like what it does for stronger mid-day light.
Yeah for sure. Two stops would be cool for sure! It works well for sure.
I always found it interesting, that you and Jason (Jason even more so haha) dissed Ektar and I couldn't get my head around it why.. I loved the outcome from both of you and even my own go at it in Greece.
Great job on those pics. Box wins for me overall. 🤔
Considering it's a 100 iso film, it totally slaps everything else in beauty while shot at all around sunny and white/blue-ish place (like Greece.. Or the Getty), so great choice of location, Caleb, haha.
Haha you know back isn’t he day I just didn’t know better… but now i know 🤙🏼
Box does win and I can see how it would look amazing in Greece.
Wow, I had never seen someone push Ektar before but it ROCKS!!!! I'm off to see if I can find it in 120 format!!! Thanks for the cool video!!!!
Do it. So so good. And no prob :)
Awesome episode, didn't know ektar can be pushed 3 stops. I have had great expereince with 35mm, just ordered few 120s now.
Ektar in 120 is amazing 🤩 I’m glad you got some.
Kodak Ektar is THE landscape film, Addictive! Makes postcards fly out the back of my cameras. My Canon L1 rangefinder wants Ektar!
Think of it as 100 ISO Portra VC! Vivid and punchy saturated color!
That’s why it’s dope as F!!!!!
Hey there Caleb. I will be purchasing my first rolls of 120 film soon. I caved to my desire and used some of my Christmas bonus to pick up a bargain priced Pentax 645. Your results are swaying me towards Ektar. I will probably only shoot a couple rolls a year so a 5 pack will last me a while. I am debating between the Fuji Pro 400H, Ektar and the Portra 160. I was very happy with the less grainy 35mm Fuji Superia 400 compared to Kodak Gold and Kodak Portra 400. I heard a rumor that the new Fuji Pro 400H brought back in 2021-2022 is rebranded Portra 400. Thanks
Go with ektar or gold!!!! Those are cheeper and are amazing … especially gold :)
yup , like it pushed , looks good
Right. Not all that bad!!!!
Caleb, I just bought a 55-110mm f/4.5 lens for my M645. I wanted it mostly for the wide end of the zoom range, because I wasn't willing to spend $250-300 for a 55mm f/2.8. Coupled with my 80mm f/2.8 and my 150mm f/3.5, I think I have a wonderful 3-lens kit for 6x4.5. FWIW, the 55-110mm lens cost $125, which includes $30 for shipping.
That ain’t bad at all!!! I dig that totally.
I do aircraft photography with a macro lens on Ektar 100 and the extra blue that the pushing introduces I think pushed me over the edge to try this. My next shoot I do at the airfield will definitely be pushed at least 2 stops.
Nice!!!! 😊 🥰
love ektar but never thought about pushing this film :)
Oh yeah, that’s why I’m here … asking the crazy questions 😂
Ektar is amazing! You get the saturation of slide film with the latitude of negative films like Portra!
Booooom the best. You said it!
This is content I love
Great job 👍
Yay! So glad. Thanks yo!
Loving the Dutch angle while in the gallery, very artistic, and definitely not trying to do some sneaky filming, haha
Hahaha you don’t know me…. Or true. Lol
Fun vid. I like the look of the pushed but maybe 2 stops max.
Out in the desert, box speed.
Yeah I feeelz ya on that
Okay, I'm definitely doing that. I've got some 120 ektar kicking around. Might just stop with a +2, since my TLR doesn't have that fast of a shutter
I feel that. It’s fun to play!!!!!!! :)
Groovy vibes!
Spanks :)
yeah agree i prefer the box speed results mostly. i preferred the pushed cauliflower photo tho :)
That cauliflower has a mood for sure haha
I prefer the pushed photos, they seem to have more contrast.
Oh yeah. They definitely do. That contrast is soo good tooo :)
I am liking consumer grade more than chrome and E6 film, so what about factoring on polar or ND lens and pulling, on 100 , I dont think I could shoot at compensating 3 min at 5 iso. Does Skylight filter remove blue tones on Ektar....Thanks
I’m not sure about that… might have to try sometime.
Hi! Totally noob with manual cameras... I am getting a OM 2n to try my hand at manual photo taking. Would you recommend a guide on how to choose film please? Does the number after the name (like ektar 100) = Iso sensitivity? Ie: use a 100 or 160 in bright light situations and a 400 or above in dark situations? (in which case : how do you select Iso on a manual camera if your Iso is kind of embedded in the film). Thank you!
You’re exactly right Ektar 100 is 100 speed film or 100 iso film portra 400 os 400 iso film. I can’t really answer the second portion of that question since it has a lot to do with the camera that you are using. If it has a Light Meter you’ll want to dial in your ISO to the film speed …if it doesn’t have a Light Meter then you don’t have to do anything with the film speed on the camera
@@BadFlashes thanks! OK, I thought the film Iso and the Iso setting on camera would be different. If I understand correctly : align the Iso on camera to the Iso of the film selected. (the om 2n has a light meter 😊). Off to looking for some ektar and portra film now 👍😉
Seem to have a like slide filmism look when pushed. I like the look, but wouldn't push it either though. Overexpising Ektar by 1 stop (and 2) at box speed is something I'm trying out right now. I noticed before Ektar seems to get a bit of a warm creamy tone to it when overexposed, but I'll hope to figure out soon how that works out.
Oh nice. Really it works so many ways and it’s amazing 🚀🚀🚀🚀
Nice episode! Hey, unrelated but in the grainydays chocolate filter video I saw you using a pixi flash, do you care to do a review of it? I have the same one but don't use it often because I fear I might mess up my exposures with film. Thanks!
Don’t worry. In the works. 🥲
Do you recommend pushing the film one stop?
I think it depends if you need to light ... but other than that id keep it at box speed... but know it can handle the push if needed
Does changing the dial on the camera from 100 to 800 actually have any effect or does the change come from shooting with the settings you’d shoot with 800 film and then developing longer.
Changing the dial from 100 to 800 changes the reading for the prism finder light meter :)
But if you didn’t have that meter then nope haha
@@BadFlashes oh thanks that makes more sense because none of my light meters work haha
Aw gotcha haha
Ive never pushed Ektar 3 stops but I dig it. Did you underexpose to compensate?
so maybe I should have waited to comment LOL
Lol. 😉
What I personally see from your pictures is, that all box speed pictures seem to be slightly overexposed ( maybe about one stop ), while the pushed film looks very accurately exposed to me. That’s kind of interesting. Maybe an issue of your exposure meter from the camera ? But anyway … great experiment !!! Never expected the pushed pictures look so awesome. So, why still buy 800 ISO film ?
True true. Maybe I should add pushed film to my lineup more often :)
I find Ektar to be a really great film. If shot in medium format like 6x6 or 6x9 its truly amazing.
With all the different channels discussing analoge film, I would like to offer a good way of showing the real potential of different films.
Instead of scanning the negatives and process them digitally you process them as they should be processed. Make a real photo print in A4 size, or close. Then scan the photo in a really good scanner. That way its more close to what the film actually can offer, in terms of grain and contrast. Films are made to be printed in a lab on real paper. If you try this way you will get results that are better.
Trust me that’s my next step and forte into the future
@@BadFlashes Cool. It's more job and the cost is higher.
But if we ever want a real comparison of picture quality between digital and analog. That is the good way of doing it.
I'll be watching :)
A bit of info that you may also be interested in is that Ektar does not have reciprocity failure upto 10 seconds. I know the Kodak data sheet doesn't commit to this but like Ektachrome (the hint is in the name). Myth that i have heard and only seen on a reciprocity failure calculator ...... so if your feeling dangerous ... just sayin
Love that for ektar and I feel you … in the same. Even even though if that. I’m exposing for days … at night now! Watch me. …. Wait does that make sense haha
How did you pushed by iso on a film camera? This value is only changes the light meter indicators accordingly.. you cannot Change the sensitivity of the physical film.. only by the exp compensation dial you are able to push.. that’s why the shots are same. You would have noticed bigger changes by pushing ektar by +3exp
Pushing is a process of underexposing the film x number of stops and compensating with developer, which is the process I had done. There was definitely a difference in the film negative and the images overall. But your right. Not by much
I wonder how the +3 would look like in combination with an kr3/81ef Filter...
Try it! Tell me how it goes :-)
I have pushed Ektar as much as 3 stops with good results even at night. You will lose a fair bit of shadow detail as your video shows but overall still get good usable results.
Totally. All into that.
I love Ektar to death and I too have heard repeatedly that it's not good for portraits. I think the channel Pushing Film has a really good video on why Ektar is his favorite film stock and he makes a really good point that in his experience when you shoot people with fairer/lighter skin Ektar can render them as reddish but when you shoot people with darker skin tones it makes it look even better. He posits a theory that this red shift on whiter skin is why Portra had been preferred for portraits and Ektar ended up getting a bad rap. I've confirmed this myself with photos of friends and I still prefer Ektar over Portra due to the contrast and color saturation.
Oh that’s interesting. Overall can’t go wrong!!!! I feels that
Pushing Ektar to 3200 sounds like something the madlad Attic Darkroom would do.
Right. He totally would! He’s crazier than I am hahaha
I liked just the IDEA of Ektar when it first came out. Shot it some, never got results I didn't like. Never pushed it. I like your bravery.
So the increased saturation is appealing, but the color shifts are not so much. I like what it did to the sky, but I am not a big fan of crushing shadows in color, at least when there is meaningful detail. And a color shift in the shadows is not welcome. So, can you take box exposures and do minimal editing to get the push results (or better) or is pushing a simple albeit more expensive path to the same thing? If you are stuck with Ektar in low light, can you push to get your images and then make easy compensations during edit to balance it out? Or is this something kids should not try at home?
This car crash joke took me of guard😂
lol nice!!!!!!
I just bought a roll of 35mm Ektar that's chillin' in the fridge. But since it's my first roll (and it's $19 w/shipping) I'll stick with box speed this time out.
Yeah I get that for sure!
When you do shoot it. It will be grand!
On a sunny day at box speed it's great. It's naturally quite contrasty anyway. Rating it at 50 does zero harm either if you want more shadow detail
Love shadow detail:)
@@BadFlashes yes indeedy doody
In the really bright scenes the +3 Ektar looks really good to me. Love Ektar, especially outdoors in the spring.
Ektar rules!!!!!!!!!! 😄
I do like the less washed out colors. I'd not go three stops... but one or two? perhaps
Yeah. Solid. I get that
And here I thought you were gonna push it into a trash can.
Ektar is definitely overhated, looks great in pushed
Haha naw …. Pushing it straight up and up and up!!!!!
It’s so good!
I think I personally prefer this film at box speed, because of the warmer tones and less contrast. The pushed shots are starting to remind me of the times I pushed film too far or shot expired.
Yeah I totally get that for sure. I’m right there with ya!
I don't know if it's scanning settings or editing or film lab but your ektar colors (box speed) are vastly different from those of our boy Jason. His are way more blue/magenta, yours are on the portra side of things. For the record I prefer yours and my one roll ever ended somewhere in between the two of you (lab dev+scan+print)
Yeah I do agree that the box speed looks a lot different then usual. I think it might have a lot to do with the time of day as well but maybe the scanning. Not sure.
Nice sound track. I can't wait till I get a lens that works for Mamiya 645. What film stock should I lose my 120 virginity too
Hahaha thanks. It was a bit weird.
And I say ektar 🤣😆😉
The pushed version looks very "digital" if you know what I mean.
That’s how you get those megapixels yo!
I just posted a video that showed Ektar pushed 2 stops in-camera but developed at box. Saturation is insane.
Technically that’s just overexposing by two stops and not actually a push, the pushing is done in developing but That’s awesome you tested that! It holds up so well under different conditions … sorry to be that that guy 😂☺️
@@BadFlashes ugh... knew you'd be "that guy" 😂 So if it's just overexposing in-camera, I wonder why they came out so dark and saturated? 🤔
Hahaha I had toooo. The negative turned out dark? Or the converted image came out dark?
@@rftwknd3893 you merely rated the film at 400, and so underexposed it by two stops. Not a good idea with any colour negative in most cases
@@BadFlashes I guess I shouldn’t say dark per se. Just really saturated and contrasty. Still quite nice tho 🤷🏻♂️
Ektar pushed looks a lot like Velvia. This might be a backup plan if Fuji discontinues Velvia again... or if 50 ASA isn't fast enough.
Ektar is dope for sure
Where's Baxter? He's the only reason I come to this channel
Well … he’s kinda Jasons dog soooooo sorry 🤷🏼😂
Get a Hasselblad. Once you experience Zeiss lenses…. You be hooked.
I mean… yeah I get that. But I do have Mamiya glass I have
Itmight be just me, but pushing it gives you almost that day-for-night cinema look.
Oh interesting. I think there is more to explore there :)
Box looks way better. I don't even know how you achieve those pastel colors on a freaking extar
Box looks way better. I don't even know how you achieve those pastel colors on a freaking EXTAR
I guess it’s how I edit my film
Ektar to 3200! Let's goooo!
I personally pushed it to 200.
Yes! You know what’s what! 🥰
Correction: 400. I got alooootttttt of blues and purples and greens in the shadows
For this situation, of course ektar is better option. Gold and ultramax mostly for city street
I love allllllll
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🥰🥰🥰🥰
This makes me think that there might be a real benefit to pushing it to 200-400 instead of all the way to 800
Totally. It would be great
*slide projector sounds*
*is a print film*
Better believe it!!!!!!
Ektar flippin’ rules, and I’m tired of people(Jason)saying it doesn’t
Ektar isn’t for everyone, only those with discerning tastes! 😄😉😊✌🏻
Soooooo good. Jason has come around though 😊
Kindof makes ektar look like ultramax (with finer grain, im sure)
Yeah I kinda see that I’m a fan of ultramax :)
You give my children nightmares
Not the worst complement 🤣
I almost always push ektar. 1 or 2 stops is less extreme, but gives slightly better tone and contrast than box. However... pushing expired ektar goes downhill fast. Any heat damage to the film? makes it hella grainy and super dark with little detail except a pop where oranges and reds were. Kinda arthouse-y how some shots turn out when pushing 2 stops on expired ektar 100 in a heat soaked camera in summer.
Oh DMAN that’s good in-site.
ektar looks best when overexposed 1 stop in my past experiences
Maaan but to shoot at iso 50 is pretty tough
Indeed! I always ‘pulled’ Ektar 25 135mm back in the day. Of course tripod a necessity, but it was for landscape shooting. Still have a brick sitting in cold storage. Just NEED to make the time to go out and shoot it! Peace
@@pantherclaws123 I also don't do that frequently but when I do so I usually use my pentax 67 with f2.4 wide open or 35mm RF cameras with no mirror vibrating
Absolutely love all of this!
Never tried Ektar myself
No….. now is the time. It’s pure magic
@@BadFlashes I do need to, just don’t shoot much pro-grade film stocks
Always time to start haha
@@BadFlashes true!
I think the moral of this story is that you need a second camera so you don't have to change backs like an animal.
O fuck yea
😍😍😍
Shoot it at 25 for portraits and be really impressed.
Ok. Deal it’s going to happen
you're funny
🥰🥰🥰 Thanks ☺️
completely unrelated but i had to watch a very erotic robert pattinson ad in the middle of this video
Oh. That’s a fun surprise :)
At first I thought I heard "the ghetto". Disappointed.😂
Hahaha 🤣
does the little "BF" in the bottom corner stand for "boyfriend"? are you my boyfriend?
Wouldn’t you like to know 😘😉
Eggtar
I can do all of this in post without any degradation
To be fair, you can do a lot of things and post
First
Damn. I’m even second 😆
Why are your box speed photos so flat and unsaturated? I would expect them to be punch, contrasty and highly saturated.
I think that overall there isn’t much color in these shots other than a few of the images.
Thought you only dated Jason
I’ll never tell.
Poor dude spent all his money on film and can't afford a new jean jacket...
Hahahahahahahaha
I love that Jean jacket. It’s a vibe yo!
good video but i don´t like you humor
That’s fair
Your photography needs a lot of refinement.
Cool story 👍🏼