It’s a shame that Tonga, Fiji and Samoa aren’t getting more support to develop their game and that some,of their players seem to play for other countries (I could be wrong on that one). Still I reckon the island teams must play to stronger sides if they are to improve as Japan has done🏉👍
England were looking good there. But also, sometimes, the opposition can make you look good, if they are not playing well. From these highlights, hard to know if Tonga were really playing up to standard. But certainly, getting a player sent off for foul play - is well below the standard needed.
The only time Tonga plays well generally is at world cups. That is when they have decent time to prepare and have full access to most of their best players. Hopefully the coming vote on eligibility at World Rugby will be supported by Northern hemisphere nations.
@@westsideAUKILANI Agreed...I would cuss at these pathetic, greedy, cowardly 1st tier nations and their useless, self-serving eligibility rules but I don't feel like getting booted off the forum hahaha!! imagine a fully packed Tonga, Samoa, or Fiji that has been given a month or two to gel?? They would annihilate these uppity @&$*@'s... So much for "growing" the "world" game. PATHETIC!
@@westsideAUKILANI don’t suppose you are going to retract now that the change is now in effect. Particularly as the change was supported by the Northern Hemisphere Nations. The danger In It not going through was veto by Southern Hemisphere Nations.
That yellow card was not fair. The Tongan player was in the zone before the English player. It's not the Tongans fault that the other had to jump forward to get to the ball on time. And there was obstruction at the first try, it should have been a penalty to the defenders.
@@JackOfBlades8642 you cant see the 70,000 fans roaring and celebrating the english win?unacceptable,should just be happy in silence and thinking how best to deal with climate change
Give Tonga there players eligibility and more time to be together instead of just one week and I promise you will not have the same opinion 🤐most of those players who started arrived Monday and play England Saturday..England can celebrate now there time is coming keep that same energy when you play the all blacks
Try putting the international Tongan players together, who are well coached and well conditioned and see what HAPPENS then!! Defense and Attack at a whole different level. Just like what happened with RUGBY LEAGUE! The best of the best fell at our feet💪🏽
Was there a team warning against Tonga before that "slap down"? Because that has to be the softest yellow card I have seen for that in a long time! In TRC and Autumn series we have seen Mapimpi, de Allende and Barrett do as much and worse and only give away scrum, penalty and scrum respectively. Doesn't seem fair, does it?
Agreed. I really do feel there are double standards but the small and midsize unions don't help themselves by all the other infringements. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Argentina start playing dirty when they start losing. So you're correct but there are so many other infringements that that one just got added to the list instead of being looked at on it's own. For me he hit the ball upward and tried to catch it meaning it wasn't a yellow. The ref indicated he hit it downward which was incorrect.
@@jeanmichelreneredbeans4104 Vous avez raison, mais je viens de voir la résumé des Bleus contre les Pumas, et j’ai trouvé que ils étaient pas plus impressionnants que ça.
@@gv3307 Finances are not the problem. What is done with the money is a big issue. Big unions getting richer and small unions having their talent stripped out of them continuously is a big problem. Simple things like letting international players play for their country of birth after they retire would make a huge difference. The big unions block it as they're scared of what might happen to all their easy wins.
People here saying…..”eligibility rules must be changed to suit the pacific islands" …..are really saying…. ‘’pacific islanders should have the early & continuing use of rugby resources from other people’s nations, that should be used to develop their own sons that will be loyal to their nation, to develop the sons of the pacific islands, that will never show the same loyalty’’ …..Nations should be developing their own sons, not the sons of others. PI players born, raised and ‘rugbyfied’ in NZ and Australia, that used all the resources built by generations of NZers & Aussies before their arrival, still demonstrate their disloyalty by talking of wanting to play for the PI’s but, they never leave, they stay and continue eating at the table of someone they’ve declared they don’t regard as family. Disloyalty is not a trait you want to sponsor in a healthy nation.
I understand your ideas, NZ and Aus pay ... But Tonga are a machine made of steel in Rugby League, in recent years they have made the world cup semi's, beaten team GB, NZ and Australia. I watch on TV but those crowds look good. Either you let PI's play for their nations or they will play league. Fiji are going the same way and Papua New Guinea don't even play Union. You can only make a decision and face the consequences.
People who have nothing are being paid to go and play overseas. Many of these players support their whole family. I'm not just talking about international players, these are players at provincial and even club level. Their family is so poor they would do anything to help them and keep them afloat so I think your judgement is a little bit entitled. The big unions get richer while the small unions continuously are robbed of their talent stopping them from growing and competing on a level playing field. I would be very curious to see if you were in a position that your family was starving - how you would react if I started talking to you about loyalty.
Talk to me about loyalty when you have experienced economic hardship and get an opportunity to support your family by playing overseas. Your so called loyalty principal appears to me to be saying that rugby will concentrate on elite countries who have the cash, crowds, facilities and broadcasting infrastructure to develop their national sides🤦🏻♂️
@@mikewilliams4499 …..I grew up in one end of a half round barn in Northland. No electricity, no running water. Milked a house cow before I went school, chopped wood for my mother to cook our dinner in a cast iron stove when I got home from school and then did my farm chores. Washed in the river in summer, spring & autumn and in a huge hand dressed copper pot full of hot water in winter, with water we carried up from the river. Schidtt in a corrugated iron long drop in the trees and had gas lamps at night to read and talk by before bedtime. I still would never even entertain the idea of playing for any nation other than my own for something as banal as filthy lucre. Now, guys like you, a virtue signalling twonk, that would clearly justify any grasp at funds with a ready made excuse full of faux righteousness and undeserved declarations of victimhood to deflect from your ignoble choices can’t even contemplate a life lived like that, no matter how much spittle ridden pretend outrage you attach to it. You are just another low man, justifying low men behaviours in others, to justify it in yourself. Noble paths before materialist gain, is the aim of good fellows……
You think jumping in the air and getting brought down and landing on your head isn't painful? What a dumb fucking comment. In any game that's a yellow, there was no real contest for the ball and it was dangerous. Learn about the damn game.
@@joeboonmusic4004 Insulting other people in a comment is also typical england. "No real contest"?, well, the white player keep his eye on the ball at all time, jump at the right moment and even touch the ball in the air, so I'm sorry but I disagree with you here. And if landing on the back is as painfull as you suggest, why does the english player still have enough lucidity to give the ball to his partners? He is just a beautifull actor.
@@TheKirilover I’m telling you to learn about rugby, that’s hardly insulting. Based on your comment you have very little knowledge or basic logic surrounding the game… You’re completely missing the point. The reason it’s a yellow is because Jonny May is the only one properly competing for the ball. The reason the Tonga player got an obvious yellow is because he didn’t even get high enough and ended up just colliding in the air, causing May to fall on his head. If you could fake falling backwards onto your head I would be impressed. If you could also hit your head on a pitch after jumping and not be slightly dazed, I’d also be impressed. He presents the ball after he comes to his senses but he’s clearly a bit thrown off by FALLING ON HIS HEAD. Just admit it, for some reason you have a dumb, anti-English mindset and you know nothing about Rugby. If you admit that, your ignorance makes total sense.
DOX THE REF GEE WAS A RIP OFF IF I WAS PLAYING FOR TONGA AND THE END OF THE GAME I SHOULD'VE DROP THE REF IN FORNT OF HIS FAMILY. BUT THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME SEEING SOLOMONE KATA PLAYING IN RUGBY UNION BUT MOSTLY SEEING HIM IN RUGBY LEAGUE AND THE MATE MA'A TONGA TEAM. SO YEA.
Maybe WR should distribute the funds that they allocate to teams in a way that doesn't benefit teams who are already able to support professional rugby salaries but rather to teams where rugby is still semi professional. Idk just a thought about how old boys club that is WR should maybe not be so blatantly bias. Penalizing Polynesian players more harshly in the NH might also be a contributing factor.
@@Rotavegas1 Argentina doesn't have the funding but they do well against countries with huge investment. Even when they lose they still usually look dangerous.
Stupid rule they need to put that 10mins penalty away. When you not make the interception. Give them penalties but not send him out of the game for 10mins. I think is stupid. This isn’t fair for this kind of game.
There have always been blowouts like this. In 1995 the ABs beat Japan by over 100 points. In 98 the Boks beat Wales by 98-10 and Italy 74-3 in '99. There are dozens of examples like that. Most people acknowledge that there is a big gap between the top nations and mid-tier and minnows and enjoy the rugby on show. So I am not sure what you mean by "in the past"?
@@Martin-pb7ts You're right, back in the day there use to be a lot more blow outs. Every top tier team use to beat 2nd tier teams by 100 points or more. Nowadays you only see New Zealand put that kind of score up against a second tier team.
What is the past to you? In 2003 several teams put more than 100 points past minnow nations. Australia destroyed Romania 90-3 and Namibia 142-0. In 2007 the All Blacks put 108 points on Portugal. The commenters above me have listed the drubbings from the 90s. So how is it weaker? If anything the game is stronger now teams like Georgia and Japan don't get wrecked during world cups. Just in 2011 Japan conceded 83 points to NZ. Last world cup they made the quarters.
It’s a shame that Tonga, Fiji and Samoa aren’t getting more support to develop their game and that some,of their players seem to play for other countries (I could be wrong on that one). Still I reckon the island teams must play to stronger sides if they are to improve as Japan has done🏉👍
Fiji beat both England and Japan recently.
Lawes is unbelievably talented and scary 💯
I wish these type of games were on TV good for England🏉
Let's be honest, that try saver from Lawes is remarkable. Top class
We need to improve the elegibility rules in favor of Pacific Island.
England were looking good there.
But also, sometimes, the opposition can make you look good, if they are not playing well.
From these highlights, hard to know if Tonga were really playing up to standard.
But certainly, getting a player sent off for foul play - is well below the standard needed.
The only time Tonga plays well generally is at world cups. That is when they have decent time to prepare and have full access to most of their best players. Hopefully the coming vote on eligibility at World Rugby will be supported by Northern hemisphere nations.
They won't support it, they have already voted no. They do not want the pacific to be competitive. Cowards
@@westsideAUKILANI Agreed...I would cuss at these pathetic, greedy, cowardly 1st tier nations and their useless, self-serving eligibility rules but I don't feel like getting booted off the forum hahaha!! imagine a fully packed Tonga, Samoa, or Fiji that has been given a month or two to gel?? They would annihilate these uppity @&$*@'s... So much for "growing" the "world" game. PATHETIC!
@@westsideAUKILANI don’t suppose you are going to retract now that the change is now in effect. Particularly as the change was supported by the Northern Hemisphere Nations. The danger In It not going through was veto by Southern Hemisphere Nations.
0:33 literally got blocked from making a tackle blind ref
Thank you so much.
English sports is becoming a juggernaut
Tongs Underdeveloped
1:21 White shirt guy goes whaaaaat
2:50 Wow
6:16 Nice
Hopefully I am only the latest to note England #10's obstruction on first hometown try.
Meh, he was running a line
Would have made a real difference to the result I'm sure...
Yes it didn’t dent the end result but fair is fair that was an obstruction, coming from an English supporter
He is NEXT may
Romania also won against tonga 😎
🧢
That yellow card was not fair. The Tongan player was in the zone before the English player. It's not the Tongans fault that the other had to jump forward to get to the ball on time. And there was obstruction at the first try, it should have been a penalty to the defenders.
What’s the final try song called?
what did the ref say to ben youngs after his second try?
Get the ball
@@mangofandango665 Yeah but why? Players score and throw the ball the time.
How much better was the commentary during the autumn.
No Stuart Barnes has made games far more enjoyable.
AS AN IRELAND FAN I DONT LIKE TO SEE ENGLAND WINNING
before you english fans go on about how good you were,have you heard of a team called Mate Ma,a Tonga?
I can not find one comment in this comment section with an England fan saying how good they are because of this win. Lol
@@JackOfBlades8642 you cant see the 70,000 fans roaring and celebrating the english win?unacceptable,should just be happy in silence and thinking how best to deal with climate change
@@sliew9120 You are a pathetic man 😆
@@sliew9120 why go to a stadium to be silent ??? It’s called supporting your team, you absolute yogurt for brains !!!!
@@mrjonathan1117 people who have a brain the size of a pea would understand my comment wasnt serious,except you
England !
Ｉlike RADWAN i think He England keyplayer
Sa se roule par terre comme des joueurs de football 😂
"Tonga renowned for their incredibly phYsiCal tackling..." Yea , no that reputation needs to be laid to rest. Tonga's defence aint it.
Give Tonga there players eligibility and more time to be together instead of just one week and I promise you will not have the same opinion 🤐most of those players who started arrived Monday and play England Saturday..England can celebrate now there time is coming keep that same energy when you play the all blacks
@@jont.a83 💯
Maybe Samoa or Fiji over Tonga in defence
Try putting the international Tongan players together, who are well coached and well conditioned and see what HAPPENS then!! Defense and Attack at a whole different level. Just like what happened with RUGBY LEAGUE! The best of the best fell at our feet💪🏽
@@jont.a83 there is nothing wrong with England celebrating. No idea why you are taking issue with that
Vous enflammez pas les rosbiffs c'est que les Tonga.
Who came second. France..?
whats the name of the song at 1:42 ?
kernkraft 400 by zombie nation
Was there a team warning against Tonga before that "slap down"? Because that has to be the softest yellow card I have seen for that in a long time! In TRC and Autumn series we have seen Mapimpi, de Allende and Barrett do as much and worse and only give away scrum, penalty and scrum respectively. Doesn't seem fair, does it?
Agreed. I really do feel there are double standards but the small and midsize unions don't help themselves by all the other infringements. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that Argentina start playing dirty when they start losing. So you're correct but there are so many other infringements that that one just got added to the list instead of being looked at on it's own. For me he hit the ball upward and tried to catch it meaning it wasn't a yellow. The ref indicated he hit it downward which was incorrect.
Petite victoire, devant une équipe réduite à 14
Pensez-vous que les bleus auraient pu faire mieux? LOL
@@milinkerhe tant qu'on a rien vue, on ne peut rien dire .
@@jeanmichelreneredbeans4104 Vous avez raison, mais je viens de voir la résumé des Bleus contre les Pumas, et j’ai trouvé que ils étaient pas plus impressionnants que ça.
@@milinkerhe Non c'est vrai pas très impressionnant en effet 😄 lol
@@milinkerhe faut regarder celui contre les blacks alors 😁 ..
Salutations amicales à nos plus chers ennemis d'outre manche 😉
Eish they took a beating hay
Song at 1:44?
COME ON ENGLAND!!!!
2 yellows, a red, and England celebrate the tries like its against the best team in the world? pretty weak by the looks
Only England would get criticised for celebrating tries.
Not a fan of the cheap shot delivered after a player has touched down. The next thing refs need to start looking at?
Englandddd
Too easy
🇹🇴👊👊👊💯
Predictable scoreline, old farts "leading" World Rugby still fast asleep and think all is well with the development of the beautiful game.
Japan is the key to improve finances in Rugby.
Look like Tonga is all League now.
@@gv3307 Finances are not the problem. What is done with the money is a big issue. Big unions getting richer and small unions having their talent stripped out of them continuously is a big problem. Simple things like letting international players play for their country of birth after they retire would make a huge difference. The big unions block it as they're scared of what might happen to all their easy wins.
@@Martin-pb7ts Agreed but why "after they retire"...why not in their prime so its competitive?
People here saying…..”eligibility rules must be changed to suit the pacific islands" …..are really saying…. ‘’pacific islanders should have the early & continuing use of rugby resources from other people’s nations, that should be used to develop their own sons that will be loyal to their nation, to develop the sons of the pacific islands, that will never show the same loyalty’’ …..Nations should be developing their own sons, not the sons of others. PI players born, raised and ‘rugbyfied’ in NZ and Australia, that used all the resources built by generations of NZers & Aussies before their arrival, still demonstrate their disloyalty by talking of wanting to play for the PI’s but, they never leave, they stay and continue eating at the table of someone they’ve declared they don’t regard as family. Disloyalty is not a trait you want to sponsor in a healthy nation.
I understand your ideas, NZ and Aus pay ... But Tonga are a machine made of steel in Rugby League, in recent years they have made the world cup semi's, beaten team GB, NZ and Australia. I watch on TV but those crowds look good. Either you let PI's play for their nations or they will play league. Fiji are going the same way and Papua New Guinea don't even play Union. You can only make a decision and face the consequences.
People who have nothing are being paid to go and play overseas. Many of these players support their whole family. I'm not just talking about international players, these are players at provincial and even club level. Their family is so poor they would do anything to help them and keep them afloat so I think your judgement is a little bit entitled. The big unions get richer while the small unions continuously are robbed of their talent stopping them from growing and competing on a level playing field.
I would be very curious to see if you were in a position that your family was starving - how you would react if I started talking to you about loyalty.
Talk to me about loyalty when you have experienced economic hardship and get an opportunity to support your family by playing overseas. Your so called loyalty principal appears to me to be saying that rugby will concentrate on elite countries who have the cash, crowds, facilities and broadcasting infrastructure to develop their national sides🤦🏻♂️
@@mikewilliams4499 …..I grew up in one end of a half round barn in Northland. No electricity, no running water. Milked a house cow before I went school, chopped wood for my mother to cook our dinner in a cast iron stove when I got home from school and then did my farm chores. Washed in the river in summer, spring & autumn and in a huge hand dressed copper pot full of hot water in winter, with water we carried up from the river. Schidtt in a corrugated iron long drop in the trees and had gas lamps at night to read and talk by before bedtime. I still would never even entertain the idea of playing for any nation other than my own for something as banal as filthy lucre. Now, guys like you, a virtue signalling twonk, that would clearly justify any grasp at funds with a ready made excuse full of faux righteousness and undeserved declarations of victimhood to deflect from your ignoble choices can’t even contemplate a life lived like that, no matter how much spittle ridden pretend outrage you attach to it.
You are just another low man, justifying low men behaviours in others, to justify it in yourself. Noble paths before materialist gain, is the aim of good fellows……
Bloodbath
I am welsh sorry 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴 wales smashed Tonga
But not SA :P
But not England.
Referee looks about 19.
Not sure why Jamie George celebrates like he does. These are team tries mate. Clown.
lol
Because he was dropped originally and has been written off by many... clown.
1:49 this guy is a football player , righr? Faking pain just to get a yellow card. Typical england
You think jumping in the air and getting brought down and landing on your head isn't painful? What a dumb fucking comment. In any game that's a yellow, there was no real contest for the ball and it was dangerous. Learn about the damn game.
@@joeboonmusic4004 Insulting other people in a comment is also typical england. "No real contest"?, well, the white player keep his eye on the ball at all time, jump at the right moment and even touch the ball in the air, so I'm sorry but I disagree with you here. And if landing on the back is as painfull as you suggest, why does the english player still have enough lucidity to give the ball to his partners? He is just a beautifull actor.
@@TheKirilover I’m telling you to learn about rugby, that’s hardly insulting. Based on your comment you have very little knowledge or basic logic surrounding the game… You’re completely missing the point.
The reason it’s a yellow is because Jonny May is the only one properly competing for the ball. The reason the Tonga player got an obvious yellow is because he didn’t even get high enough and ended up just colliding in the air, causing May to fall on his head. If you could fake falling backwards onto your head I would be impressed. If you could also hit your head on a pitch after jumping and not be slightly dazed, I’d also be impressed. He presents the ball after he comes to his senses but he’s clearly a bit thrown off by FALLING ON HIS HEAD.
Just admit it, for some reason you have a dumb, anti-English mindset and you know nothing about Rugby. If you admit that, your ignorance makes total sense.
DOX THE REF GEE WAS A RIP OFF IF I WAS PLAYING FOR TONGA AND THE END OF THE GAME I SHOULD'VE DROP THE REF IN FORNT OF HIS FAMILY. BUT THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME SEEING SOLOMONE KATA PLAYING IN RUGBY UNION BUT MOSTLY SEEING HIM IN RUGBY LEAGUE AND THE MATE MA'A TONGA TEAM. SO YEA.
THAT'S A MASSIVE FUCKING RED CARD, FOR THE TONGAN PLAYER FOR FOUL PLAY.
No it isn’t usi
Ah ah yes tea people
Northern hemisphere refs are something else
The powerful Tongans are not that powerful after all. All these island teams seem that they are not improving. Totally stagnant.
England has more money to advance their teams Tonga hasn't
Maybe WR should distribute the funds that they allocate to teams in a way that doesn't benefit teams who are already able to support professional rugby salaries but rather to teams where rugby is still semi professional. Idk just a thought about how old boys club that is WR should maybe not be so blatantly bias. Penalizing Polynesian players more harshly in the NH might also be a contributing factor.
@@Rotavegas1 Argentina doesn't have the funding but they do well against countries with huge investment. Even when they lose they still usually look dangerous.
First btw
Tonga will never improve
They suck 😂
Stupid rule they need to put that 10mins penalty away. When you not make the interception. Give them penalties but not send him out of the game for 10mins. I think is stupid. This isn’t fair for this kind of game.
Sipi tau all shit
Tonga. You. Better. Stop eating. Horse meat eat. Pork and. Beef much. Better
Union has too many blow outs for me. The international game appears weaker than in the past.
There have always been blowouts like this. In 1995 the ABs beat Japan by over 100 points. In 98 the Boks beat Wales by 98-10 and Italy 74-3 in '99. There are dozens of examples like that. Most people acknowledge that there is a big gap between the top nations and mid-tier and minnows and enjoy the rugby on show.
So I am not sure what you mean by "in the past"?
@@Martin-pb7ts You're right, back in the day there use to be a lot more blow outs. Every top tier team use to beat 2nd tier teams by 100 points or more. Nowadays you only see New Zealand put that kind of score up against a second tier team.
What is the past to you? In 2003 several teams put more than 100 points past minnow nations. Australia destroyed Romania 90-3 and Namibia 142-0. In 2007 the All Blacks put 108 points on Portugal. The commenters above me have listed the drubbings from the 90s.
So how is it weaker? If anything the game is stronger now teams like Georgia and Japan don't get wrecked during world cups. Just in 2011 Japan conceded 83 points to NZ. Last world cup they made the quarters.