"You merely adopted the Rivers of Blood. I was born in them, molded by them. I didn't see another weapon in Pvp until I was already a man." -Chase probably maybe
"I don't fear a thousand noobs that have used rivers of blood once, I fear a pro that have used rivers of blood a thousand times" - Bruce Lee, probably.
""I don't fear a thousand noobs that have used rivers of blood once, I fear a pro that have used rivers of blood a thousand times" - Bruce Lee, probably." -Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
2:47 the blue clipped Chase and it did poison buildup. He was just an honest serpentbone blade user in the party of Rivers ;-; justice for this random blue
@@starslayer8390 yeah, that's fair. It's honestly a bit of a consolation to see sephiroths, cus then you know they don't have rivers/moonveil. At least, they don't have it at their fingertips. It's usually in their inventory.
People are too scared to lose by having fun and trying something else. Their mindset is, "well, if it's a competition, there's no other option than to do everything necessary to win". 🤦
@@mykelmellen2378 i wish i could have fun but its either fight bloodhound step + bleed or fight running poke thrusting weapons and bleed at this point in the game.
@@xtruhumble2917 bro, people like Chase and Scott Jund are proof that you don't "have to". Yeah, you're pretty much obligated to fight cheese with cheese against some of these people, but they've got showcases of builds and weapons that are viable. They require a certain level of skill, but it's either get good at the basics or wait for the nerfs.
chasethebro I’m a new player to soulslike pvp and i was so bad then i watched 8 of your videos and now i’m destroying in invasions using sprint attack pokes and spacing similar to how you do. Thank you for sharing your ways
8:40 Your ability to deal with and kill laggy players will never cease to amaze me. The extra style points of him getting killed with a bleed proc while you stood there doesn't hurt.
The trick for dealing with lagging players is to keep hitting their model. While they're lagging, they won't be visibly taking damage, but once their lag ends, they'll take damage as if you've hit their hitbox properly. I've set up some funny moments this way by hitting a lagging host, then standing there while their Finger hit me, only for the host to explode in the background.
The issue is that rivers of blood is hands down the easiest way to clear the game really fast so every pve player and their entire extended family runs it.
Yeah and it seems like the ashe of war barely does any self inflicted dmg compared to the dmg put shit out on enemies. Luke increase the self inflicted a bit or lower the overall dmg cause RoB isnt far from balanced.
@@yamalortiz5152 thats cause of the exploit. Exploits urnt really builds since well they urnt supposed to work. Ive seen some legot carian users and those fights are always fun.
Bleed wouldn't be half bad if the skill on ROB was nerfed. Corpse piler is honestly the most stupidly broken skill right now. The range speed & damage are just busted. It needs to be completely redone imo. Moonviel is bad, but I feel the rivers combo is that slight touch worse. I have a bleed build char, and try & thoroughly avoid rivers at all costs. I find it an incredibly mundane way to beat bosses. I prefer things like eleonoras poleblade, or applying my own ashes
Honestly the easy mode is just using ashes/ summons, completely takes away the challenge. We all know bosses are meant to be fought 1 on 1 but too many casuls out there
@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia That's debatable, someone like me who has always dodged, finds that's even easier than trying to lineup a block against a boss swinging around like a maniac
Even i am surprised when i land some. This actually has me wondering if certain weapons have better backstab grabs just like dark souls 3 had. I landed some good ones using the great thrusting weapons so maybe that is the case.
@@ChaseTheBro I feel like the hit boxes for different weapons definitely vary in that regard. There've been so many situations when I *know* I should've gotten the backstab (with a ss or some other mid range weapon) and I'd never get the animation, but then with longer weapons like spears, it seems easier. Normally it didn't matter that much but I guess it does now
God I love those moments where someone tries to use the current cheese weapon against Chase and he just turns on them like "Oh it's like that is it? Alright, lemme show you what that weapon can do in the hands of a true master!!" *smash cut to three dead phantoms, two dead blues, and a host frantically trying to chug before the last sliver of their HP get's deleted* "Remember, you brought this upon yourselves!"
Moonveil is easy to Dodge if you know they have it but it looks to similar the others. big give away if they use sorcery 99% of all wizards you use Moonveil the other 1% use a different katana
@@Little-wig It's still too unbalanced. I don't always have a shield with parry equipped and it's often spammed in gank situations which makes it harder to deal with. Rivers of Blood, the dragon breaths (rot specifically) and a couple of the spells. Stars of ruins I think, not sure because I haven't played a INT caster yet. Those I find are the most busted in pvp and mostly because of 2v1 or 3v1 situations. Honorable mentions to the instant madness bolt and bloodhound step. I find it super annoying to get sniped by some invisible guy and getting guarenteed death or getting hit by someone once while im dodging dragon breaths and got knows what else and I lose because of it. Bloodhound step isn't as bad, it can be really annoying and hard to hit someone and it should probably nerfed just a little but damned if it isn't the only thing sometimes that gives me a chance just to get an attack in.
I run an arcane build that primarily uses a blood-infused Venomous Fang with casting and some other stuff, and i still have one of these in my back pocket either for when someone is trying to use it against me or as a last ditch effort to win the invasion. I imagine it's what owning a gun in America is like.
@@arcadianwing8831 you never really see madness builds, and they’re both difficult to run effectively and not inclined to cheese or spam attacks because the user also receives madness build up, 99% of the huge damage spells in this game are easy to doge if you’ve seen them at least once or twice, and honestly even huge FP bars isn’t awful because at least you see a range of spells being used and none that are actually threatening are difficult to avoid, moonveil was nerfed and honestly can be dodged pretty easily you don’t even need to roll to dodge it, everyone abusing rivers of blood is much worse because you see everyone not just abusing the same weapon but the exact same attack on the exact same weapon, not to mention bleed is kinda OP
@@coreywho2972 I’ve never been one shot by madness yet and I think every one can agree that pvp in this game needs work but as I concept I’m fine with madness
The weapon art should do zero or very little damage, but build up a lot of bleed. This would kinda make sense since the weapon art is a magic blood sword extension that comes out of the actual blade. Also the weapon description says it's a gift from Mohg, who has a similar effect in his fight with the blood flame on the ground that does very little damage, but builds up bleed quickly.
Nah, just nerf bleed in general. It shouldn't stun, just deal damage. Even against Mohg sometimes you end up dying because you get stunned on the worst possible moment. RoB weapon art also does so much damage because the bleed stuns you and make so you can evade the rest of the combo. Also, if you are powerstancing, the second weapon should only deal 50% of the bleed build up.
They'd have to fix the bleed bug where you just randomly don't get bleed for that to be a thing. That, and the current meta is chugging estus until you're out. The weapon would be dead unless it procced bleed on ghost hits. That being said, rivers of blood needs a nerf, but not in a way that makes the weapon completely useless
@@spunk3787 bleed does % damage, so imagine if you had 35-40 vigor as the bleed + high base damage would be enough to kill easily(like many people in the vid)
This is why I can’t PvP anymore. The fun is sucked out by Carian shield users, ROB users, Insta arcane Madness users, and just... bleed bleed bleed. There’s fucking over 100 weapons in the game, but I see the same shit over and over. Only fromsoft can stop this by balancing the scaling. And coming from a bleed user from DS3, I’m a fucking shamed in everyone for abusing the over-scaled power to it.
The thing is. I *want* to use ROB. I used it for pvp *before* it got buffed/fixed. Now I avoid using it because it's lame. Then people pull out bullshit and at that point I might as well fight bullshit with bullshit. I want things nerfed. Frayed blade was way cooler imo.
I'm guessing those are mostly used by people new to From games who are looking for things to make the game easy or the massive amount of new trolls that came with the game going mainstream.
Or just make the next meta yourself. There's alot of good options. Dominate PvP with fingerprint shield for a bit and you'll see some neat tricks be pulled. One of my favorites is someone trying to aoe snipe me with concealing + ballista crossbow x2. Was a fun game of cat and mouse. Or if I'm on my mage, rock slinging from max range + rushing the melee with carian slicer.
Yeah, i agree i stopped playing PVP/Invasions because it's not as fun as it used to be back in DS3. PVE is one of the best games I've played but PVP is definitely a problem. I'll just wait and hope for some balance fixes before trying it out again.
@@failegion7828 That's easier said than done. The REALITY is that the shits just overtuned and you're working at a disadvantage no matter how you look at it. META means most effective for a reason. Its not rocket science.
It’s not whining and bitching if something is completely over tuned and broken… plus complaining is the only way to get the lazy devs to fix their shit
@UCPUwutBrHCp4KdeNldL60LA Complaining about broken shit is not bad like you try to make it seem, if you can't stand anyone criticizing what should be criticized maybe you are the one that should stop reading comments so your feelings don't get hurt. The game needs fixing and the community should criticize the poor job From Software did at balancing not only the pvp but the late game pve as well
It happens from time to time. What does it say about how good Chase is, that when he loses in a 3v1, even with cheese, it goes down in history? The real surprise, is when Chase actually gets a TINY BIT upset... not even rage, just annoyed. I've seen it like 3 times in... 4 years? I seen him point down people in this stream. Lol. Always top notch entertainment with Chase!
Side note, i tried the cross-naginata after seeing it in your videos, with occult on a 60+ arcane build the damage and bleed rate are both very good. Them having natural bleed lets you lean more into damage and the powerstance spear set is so good anyways, it's an amazing option on late game arcane builds
I love that you pulled out the baemore with seppuku. Dude I told you on that one stream, that thing doesn’t mess around. It’s cracked! Highly recommend.
I will say the biggest problems in pvp for me so far are 2-3 people with rivers of blood or people that hide inside a tower and wait for you to leave. Had this happen at bestial sanctum as well, a bunch of times. I understand running a strong weapon, but it's way too broken in groups.
Lmao I was the one who sent the super chat at 3:53. I gotta get better at timing them for when you’re able to read them! I think after seeing all the rivers out there invading at 90 until they nerf it is the way forward!
Love your vids chase been watching u for years. Miss the ds3 vids. But cant wait to get eldin ring but still playing Ds3 of course over 3000 hours lol. Keep the awesome vids coming😊
Light load, with that and the crucible feather (they stack), makes dodging much easier. Worked great for Malenia 1st phase, just wish it lasted till death or something.
My L2 sends all the bois to the yard, and they're like, "It's better than yours." Damn right, it's better than yours. I could teach you, but I'd have to charge.
TIP: Rivers of Blood sword, ironically, inflicts FIRE damage. Stacking fire defense helps, however, an excellent counter is the Crimsonwhorl Tear which converts non-physical damage into HP for a duration of 15 seconds. From my testing, the blood slashes are purely FIRE, so the only concern is stagger and/or bleed.
Rivers of blood with swarm of flies is amazing as long as you use the flies like a traveling shield- like they should be hitting you with the rivers of blood when you’re dodging the flies as soon as you get hit. And the bloody felice goes well with rivers of blood cause their weapon arts are sort of opposites.
1:13 10/10 aim “Thank you” That said, you guys need to understand how most people use Rivers of blood and Moon Veil Katana, compare them to how Chase uses it. Most of them used it blindly and spam the weapon art. You can easily use this against them. Unless you’re cornered yourself or you decide to rush in blindly, you can win. I’m not good at pvp and invasion myself but when they go full ape on that weapon art it ends up being really damn easy. I kinda treat the weapon art of these weapons as a punishing move instead of an actual way to attack. Which is what they did.
@@Diran_ Yeah it's really easy to line up frost procs with heavy hitting attacks that can delete most of someone's healthbar. What I've sometimes done is use a heavy thruster with glintstone pebble, pressure a bit until the next hit will frostbite, then use glintstone pebble and watch their healthbar disappear. It's not even that hard to do, and stuff like giant hunt or a royal knight's resolve buffed attack work just as well.
Fun Fact: If you wear the Black Knife chest piece and use the Mimic Veil, your character will no longer become invisible and will instead stand/walk with the conjured mimicry.
1:55 Claymore meta incoming. I was seriously surprised the first time you used it in stream and it was one hit procing bleed. With how beautifully refined they made the animation of the claymore this time around, it needs this!
I'm a huge proponent of the Flamberge, also. I tend to swap back and forth between the Claymore and the Flamberge, or power-stance with these two all leveled up. The Flamby's inherent bleed is a nice base to work with.
@@TheReapersSon Love using the Flamberge. I've been using it more or less since I picked it up on my strength faith run, paired with fire incants and buffs. The only thing it's missing is a thrust, and you can fix that with the right ash of war.
@@WedgeSkyrocket one of my favorite ashes of war believe it or not is the stomp. It doesn't do a lot of damage but it roll catches and stunlocks people in their moves and you can combo into it pretty quickly. Mix it up between throwing pots, kukris / throwing daggers, and stomp'n'slash.
The Omenkiller Great Cleaver is really fun! I was duel wielding those at like level 60 leveled both to +18 it was one shotting everyone with the jumping L2 in PvP I kept the wild strikes which with the ironjar aromatic is really good at poising through rivers of blood
this still holds true nearly a month later. people are using other things just to break the monotony. i wrote a guide that will put you in the top 25% in elder ring pvp if you follow it to the letter. 1. get rivers of blood 2. level to at least +7 3. stack poise 4. LT in every situation
Oh man! You are so fun to watch play! I loved your DKS3 content, and it now carries over here. Have you ever streamed or made videos on your PVE progression? Great stuff dude!
My guy pulling out Rivers of blood, Moonveil, and lightning strike all in 1 build and he still gets clapped by another rivers of blood like jesus christ
Hey chase! Any plans for a quality build? There are some cool quality weapons: ghiza's wheel, axe of godrick, sword of milos, axe of godfrey... and you can still use claymore 😁
"Why do you keep using Rivers of Blood?!"
"Because its easy. And does a lot of damage."
Thank you for that reference.
"I'm soorrryyyy."
@Renin Reyulo Indeed
Because I’m bad and need a crutch… there, I fixed it 👍🏽
@@guy8360 he was referencing a video called Happy Souls
That dude his name was "wizards=nomaidens", yet hes abusing carian retaliation bug as an overleveled phantom....
Truly maidenless behaviour
He’s self aware lmao
As expected, the truly maidenless ones project their maidenlessness onto others.
@@TengouX well said
"You merely adopted the Rivers of Blood. I was born in them, molded by them. I didn't see another weapon in Pvp until I was already a man." -Chase probably maybe
this is my favorite comment so far lmao
Chase + Bane = Chane
@@RecluseBootsy B+ for effort
@@RecluseBootsy Base.
@@ZipPtang BASED
"I don't fear a thousand noobs that have used rivers of blood once, I fear a pro that have used rivers of blood a thousand times"
- Bruce Lee, probably.
It’s true, he actually said that in his memoir titled “Rivers of Blood”
BruceJeeNineMedia
@@liamd8918 i was about to write his name instead of bruce lee, but I thought that not many would get it.
I would fear a pro that switched using rivers even for once tbh
""I don't fear a thousand noobs that have used rivers of blood once, I fear a pro that have used rivers of blood a thousand times"
- Bruce Lee, probably."
-Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
2:47 the blue clipped Chase and it did poison buildup. He was just an honest serpentbone blade user in the party of Rivers ;-; justice for this random blue
Anymore, you see a katana that isn't 20 meters long and you just have to assume it's rivers or moonveil. It's the only way to survive.
@@starslayer8390 yeah, that's fair. It's honestly a bit of a consolation to see sephiroths, cus then you know they don't have rivers/moonveil.
At least, they don't have it at their fingertips. It's usually in their inventory.
Ahh yes, the rivers of blood stream. But for real 7/10 people have this thing at meta
Funny that meta is made for build variety but there is none
Its lowkey reliable though, but its extremely susspectible to the buckler parry.
People are too scared to lose by having fun and trying something else.
Their mindset is, "well, if it's a competition, there's no other option than to do everything necessary to win". 🤦
@@mykelmellen2378 i wish i could have fun but its either fight bloodhound step + bleed or fight running poke thrusting weapons and bleed at this point in the game.
@@xtruhumble2917 bro, people like Chase and Scott Jund are proof that you don't "have to". Yeah, you're pretty much obligated to fight cheese with cheese against some of these people, but they've got showcases of builds and weapons that are viable. They require a certain level of skill, but it's either get good at the basics or wait for the nerfs.
chasethebro I’m a new player to soulslike pvp and i was so bad then i watched 8 of your videos and now i’m destroying in invasions using sprint attack pokes and spacing similar to how you do. Thank you for sharing your ways
Watch JeeNiNe too
And scottjund
Looks like Chase packed his life preserver, cause he floating through them rivers of blood.
i feel bad for that host that had to wait three to five business days to see if he got hit or not
8:43 same energy as a samurai sheathing his blade and THEN the enemy dies lmao
8:40 Your ability to deal with and kill laggy players will never cease to amaze me. The extra style points of him getting killed with a bleed proc while you stood there doesn't hurt.
The trick for dealing with lagging players is to keep hitting their model. While they're lagging, they won't be visibly taking damage, but once their lag ends, they'll take damage as if you've hit their hitbox properly.
I've set up some funny moments this way by hitting a lagging host, then standing there while their Finger hit me, only for the host to explode in the background.
The issue is that rivers of blood is hands down the easiest way to clear the game really fast so every pve player and their entire extended family runs it.
Yeah I used rivers for my first play through and I honestly regret it. Completely kills the challenge of the game.
It's not as bad as Varian retaliation. You can one to two shot bosses and players. Magic swords trigger ptsd on pvp.
Yeah and it seems like the ashe of war barely does any self inflicted dmg compared to the dmg put shit out on enemies. Luke increase the self inflicted a bit or lower the overall dmg cause RoB isnt far from balanced.
@@yamalortiz5152 thats cause of the exploit. Exploits urnt really builds since well they urnt supposed to work. Ive seen some legot carian users and those fights are always fun.
Bleed wouldn't be half bad if the skill on ROB was nerfed.
Corpse piler is honestly the most stupidly broken skill right now. The range speed & damage are just busted. It needs to be completely redone imo.
Moonviel is bad, but I feel the rivers combo is that slight touch worse.
I have a bleed build char, and try & thoroughly avoid rivers at all costs. I find it an incredibly mundane way to beat bosses.
I prefer things like eleonoras poleblade, or applying my own ashes
maybe this is the "EZ mode" everybody wants
Honestly the easy mode is just using ashes/ summons, completely takes away the challenge. We all know bosses are meant to be fought 1 on 1 but too many casuls out there
The real ez mode is and has always been using great shield with 100%physical absortion and high stability
@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia That's debatable, someone like me who has always dodged, finds that's even easier than trying to lineup a block against a boss swinging around like a maniac
@@devonhood what's there to lineup? Just lock on and hold block lol
@@devonhood tbh if it's a side boss that is just ganking artificial difficulty I have no shame in summoning
"Dragon, STOP! PLEASE! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!"
Ancient Dragon: So anyway, I started blasting.
Look how they overused my boy...
“Hey, I made a new build today!”
“Is it a new build, or is it just rivers of blood again?”
“…”
Why, I ask rhetorically, is it that precisely you are the only person I see getting backstabs in a game where backstabs are harder to get?
Hes pretty good.
Even i am surprised when i land some. This actually has me wondering if certain weapons have better backstab grabs just like dark souls 3 had. I landed some good ones using the great thrusting weapons so maybe that is the case.
@@ChaseTheBro I feel like the hit boxes for different weapons definitely vary in that regard. There've been so many situations when I *know* I should've gotten the backstab (with a ss or some other mid range weapon) and I'd never get the animation, but then with longer weapons like spears, it seems easier. Normally it didn't matter that much but I guess it does now
@@ChaseTheBro the fact that you are good enough to backstab that many people to notice, is truly a feat in itself.
Chase is all aboot dat booty
God I love those moments where someone tries to use the current cheese weapon against Chase and he just turns on them like "Oh it's like that is it? Alright, lemme show you what that weapon can do in the hands of a true master!!" *smash cut to three dead phantoms, two dead blues, and a host frantically trying to chug before the last sliver of their HP get's deleted* "Remember, you brought this upon yourselves!"
They're not "trying to use it against chase" he's invading pve people lol. I love chase but its weird how people get confused over who is invading who
Honestly, Rivers of Blood makes Moonveil look perfectly balanced despite doing similar damage without even needing bleed
yea I just parry rivers of blood but that damn moonveil be tricky
Moonveil is easy to Dodge if you know they have it but it looks to similar the others. big give away if they use sorcery 99% of all wizards you use Moonveil the other 1% use a different katana
@@Little-wig It's still too unbalanced. I don't always have a shield with parry equipped and it's often spammed in gank situations which makes it harder to deal with. Rivers of Blood, the dragon breaths (rot specifically) and a couple of the spells. Stars of ruins I think, not sure because I haven't played a INT caster yet. Those I find are the most busted in pvp and mostly because of 2v1 or 3v1 situations. Honorable mentions to the instant madness bolt and bloodhound step. I find it super annoying to get sniped by some invisible guy and getting guarenteed death or getting hit by someone once while im dodging dragon breaths and got knows what else and I lose because of it. Bloodhound step isn't as bad, it can be really annoying and hard to hit someone and it should probably nerfed just a little but damned if it isn't the only thing sometimes that gives me a chance just to get an attack in.
Moonveil is still very unbalanced. The ash of war R2 attack shouldn’t even exist
The bleed would be better if it didn’t proc instantly
I did about 45 red sign summons yesterday. Was very proud to see only 2 rivers of blood players.
I run an arcane build that primarily uses a blood-infused Venomous Fang with casting and some other stuff, and i still have one of these in my back pocket either for when someone is trying to use it against me or as a last ditch effort to win the invasion.
I imagine it's what owning a gun in America is like.
My favorite part in the stream is when he disconnected during a invasion accidentally while there was a pissed off dragon in the background.
Lmao when i accidentally warped using the bloody fingers 🤣 i forgot about that haha
8:50 damn bro you really got him with the *turns away* "You're already dead." *snaps fingers*
It’s legit such a problem for pvp in this game
And Madness builds and moonveil + unlimited magic isn't? Lol.
@@coreywho2972 I never said they weren’t. But madness builds I kinda respect
@@arcadianwing8831 so an easily dogeable sword is a no no but a broken magic effect that can end any invasion with 1 cast is fine. Haha ok
@@arcadianwing8831 you never really see madness builds, and they’re both difficult to run effectively and not inclined to cheese or spam attacks because the user also receives madness build up, 99% of the huge damage spells in this game are easy to doge if you’ve seen them at least once or twice, and honestly even huge FP bars isn’t awful because at least you see a range of spells being used and none that are actually threatening are difficult to avoid, moonveil was nerfed and honestly can be dodged pretty easily you don’t even need to roll to dodge it,
everyone abusing rivers of blood is much worse because you see everyone not just abusing the same weapon but the exact same attack on the exact same weapon, not to mention bleed is kinda OP
@@coreywho2972 I’ve never been one shot by madness yet and I think every one can agree that pvp in this game needs work but as I concept I’m fine with madness
The weapon art should do zero or very little damage, but build up a lot of bleed. This would kinda make sense since the weapon art is a magic blood sword extension that comes out of the actual blade. Also the weapon description says it's a gift from Mohg, who has a similar effect in his fight with the blood flame on the ground that does very little damage, but builds up bleed quickly.
Nah, just nerf bleed in general. It shouldn't stun, just deal damage. Even against Mohg sometimes you end up dying because you get stunned on the worst possible moment. RoB weapon art also does so much damage because the bleed stuns you and make so you can evade the rest of the combo. Also, if you are powerstancing, the second weapon should only deal 50% of the bleed build up.
@@clrl936 from what I’ve seen bleed procs by themselves don’t do that much damage, on my 50 vigor build it only took around a 1/7 of my health
They'd have to fix the bleed bug where you just randomly don't get bleed for that to be a thing. That, and the current meta is chugging estus until you're out. The weapon would be dead unless it procced bleed on ghost hits. That being said, rivers of blood needs a nerf, but not in a way that makes the weapon completely useless
@@spunk3787 bleed does % damage, so imagine if you had 35-40 vigor as the bleed + high base damage would be enough to kill easily(like many people in the vid)
"The aim on this man. 10/10. 10/10 aim."
"THANK YOU"
"How am I going to handle the laggy guy, I wonder."
**quickswaps to RoB, two-shots summon, quickswaps back**
Holy shit.
Fun fact. 2 or more Rivers of Blood Katanas in one area is called a Period.
"You really don't see any variety, man.." *equips dual cross naginata*
in all my hours of pvp on this game ive seen only a couple of duel naginatas. katanas are just taking everything atm
🤣🤣
This is why I can’t PvP anymore. The fun is sucked out by Carian shield users, ROB users, Insta arcane Madness users, and just... bleed bleed bleed. There’s fucking over 100 weapons in the game, but I see the same shit over and over. Only fromsoft can stop this by balancing the scaling. And coming from a bleed user from DS3, I’m a fucking shamed in everyone for abusing the over-scaled power to it.
The thing is. I *want* to use ROB. I used it for pvp *before* it got buffed/fixed. Now I avoid using it because it's lame. Then people pull out bullshit and at that point I might as well fight bullshit with bullshit. I want things nerfed. Frayed blade was way cooler imo.
I'm guessing those are mostly used by people new to From games who are looking for things to make the game easy or the massive amount of new trolls that came with the game going mainstream.
Or just make the next meta yourself.
There's alot of good options. Dominate PvP with fingerprint shield for a bit and you'll see some neat tricks be pulled.
One of my favorites is someone trying to aoe snipe me with concealing + ballista crossbow x2. Was a fun game of cat and mouse.
Or if I'm on my mage, rock slinging from max range + rushing the melee with carian slicer.
Yeah, i agree i stopped playing PVP/Invasions because it's not as fun as it used to be back in DS3. PVE is one of the best games I've played but PVP is definitely a problem. I'll just wait and hope for some balance fixes before trying it out again.
@@failegion7828 That's easier said than done. The REALITY is that the shits just overtuned and you're working at a disadvantage no matter how you look at it. META means most effective for a reason.
Its not rocket science.
The thing I love about chase is he doesn’t whine and bitch about things in the game and still destroys. Other UA-camrs should take notes.
It’s not whining and bitching if something is completely over tuned and broken… plus complaining is the only way to get the lazy devs to fix their shit
@UCPUwutBrHCp4KdeNldL60LA Complaining about broken shit is not bad like you try to make it seem, if you can't stand anyone criticizing what should be criticized maybe you are the one that should stop reading comments so your feelings don't get hurt.
The game needs fixing and the community should criticize the poor job From Software did at balancing not only the pvp but the late game pve as well
@@markro1049 ds3 got fixed overtime. So will Elden Ring. I just hate when UA-camrs make 100+ videos crying over the same shit. Mad annoying.
@@Lunchtrey5 What's also bad is saying everything is "OP"; that clickbait BS gets used across so many channels.
If you have high IQ you’ll find a way😊 other than that keep crying
Slits dude's throat mid-"hey." Doesn't even comment on it.
Brutal
This video came out the same night I was malding because every invasion I did was 2-3 people with RoB, such a fitting acronym for this weapon rofl
Gankers: lol scrubs who can't counter one weapon. Just adapt.
Chase: Okay, let's have a Rivers-off!
Gankers: WaitNo.
Ironically the "ganker" in this video was running a halberd. Rest were just doing pve and got invaded.
Holy shit, this is the first time I've seen Chase die during an invasion! That wizard got so lucky, he has no idea what he accidentally did.
It happens from time to time. What does it say about how good Chase is, that when he loses in a 3v1, even with cheese, it goes down in history?
The real surprise, is when Chase actually gets a TINY BIT upset... not even rage, just annoyed. I've seen it like 3 times in... 4 years? I seen him point down people in this stream. Lol. Always top notch entertainment with Chase!
That's because ER pvp requires zero skill compared to DS3. That's why we never saw Chase in DS3 dying.
Literally every single PvP match in Elden Ring.
Side note, i tried the cross-naginata after seeing it in your videos, with occult on a 60+ arcane build the damage and bleed rate are both very good. Them having natural bleed lets you lean more into damage and the powerstance spear set is so good anyways, it's an amazing option on late game arcane builds
These are by far the funniest death screams I have ever heard on a Fromsoft game.
The inevitable bleed nerf is gonna feel like a spectacular kick in the nuts for a lot of people. Nice.
Are u sure it's happening?
Cause I really want it to happen but curious why it didn't happen in 1.03
@@Hero138abcd cuz they fixed arcane scaling with 1.03 and since then its been too strong. next patch is almost guaranteed to touch up bleed
@@Hero138abcd Arcane weapons only gotten really powerful SINCE 1.03 lol. Prior to that weapons like River of Blood were mediocre at best.
Good
Tbh its mostly seppuku/rovers of blood that make bleed too strong, normal bleed infusions/built in bleed weapons are not in need of a nerf
I remember how everyone cried of bleed being useless in previous games. So now you have only one weapon in the whole game. Enjoy your meta.
It was only bad In Ds3
Double flies
Triple flies
Quad flies
PENTA FLIES!!
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this lmao
5Flies Burger and Fries
I love that you pulled out the baemore with seppuku. Dude I told you on that one stream, that thing doesn’t mess around. It’s cracked!
Highly recommend.
Fields of bodies, mountains of dead. Down dragonspring river, our players bled. A fiery god, demon blade in red.
"Like the Roman, I see the river Tiber foaming with much blood"
Chase - one of your best PVP videos, ever!
Love the title... beginning middle & end.
Very enjoyable 🤣😎. Skillz on point! 👏👏
I will say the biggest problems in pvp for me so far are 2-3 people with rivers of blood or people that hide inside a tower and wait for you to leave. Had this happen at bestial sanctum as well, a bunch of times. I understand running a strong weapon, but it's way too broken in groups.
The claymore will always be a built in part of us
Lmao I was the one who sent the super chat at 3:53. I gotta get better at timing them for when you’re able to read them!
I think after seeing all the rivers out there invading at 90 until they nerf it is the way forward!
Really shows how much better he is when he can win 3v1 with the exact same weapon
God I’ve been making a bleed build that doesn’t use rivers of blood, but after seeing this I think I might start carrying one on me... for protection.
"I dont know the short name for five things" lmfao xDD bless you Chase
"Rivers of Doo Doo" ha, good one
Love your vids chase been watching u for years. Miss the ds3 vids. But cant wait to get eldin ring but still playing
Ds3 of course over 3000 hours lol. Keep the awesome vids coming😊
15:50 It looks like he's using the i frame physick. I've played around with it a bit, it's pretty gnarly. Makes roll catching a bitch and a half.
Light load, with that and the crucible feather (they stack), makes dodging much easier. Worked great for Malenia 1st phase, just wish it lasted till death or something.
Everybody thinks they're real gangster with rivers until I show up droppin dragon breath on their forehead
You know that a weapon is not fair and balanced when the user of that weapon couldn't dodge if they countered it.
My L2 sends all the bois to the yard, and they're like, "It's better than yours." Damn right, it's better than yours. I could teach you, but I'd have to charge.
TIP: Rivers of Blood sword, ironically, inflicts FIRE damage. Stacking fire defense helps, however, an excellent counter is the Crimsonwhorl Tear which converts non-physical damage into HP for a duration of 15 seconds. From my testing, the blood slashes are purely FIRE, so the only concern is stagger and/or bleed.
I'll probably get downvoted to hell, but I honestly think that using spears and double spears running attack is even more OP.
It makes so much sense for you to get bleed buildup even when you're not getting hit.
Short answer: because its broken
Every invansion...
Rivers of blood with swarm of flies is amazing as long as you use the flies like a traveling shield- like they should be hitting you with the rivers of blood when you’re dodging the flies as soon as you get hit. And the bloody felice goes well with rivers of blood cause their weapon arts are sort of opposites.
1:13
10/10 aim
“Thank you”
That said, you guys need to understand how most people use Rivers of blood and Moon Veil Katana, compare them to how Chase uses it. Most of them used it blindly and spam the weapon art. You can easily use this against them. Unless you’re cornered yourself or you decide to rush in blindly, you can win.
I’m not good at pvp and invasion myself but when they go full ape on that weapon art it ends up being really damn easy. I kinda treat the weapon art of these weapons as a punishing move instead of an actual way to attack. Which is what they did.
Much harder when you’re ganked from 3 guys.
Man I wouldn't be comfortable running around with 500k runes on me.
The day when I can't one shot with or be one shot by madness, frost, sleep crossbows, and bleed is the day I become a happy man.
frost?
@@Diran_ Yeah it's really easy to line up frost procs with heavy hitting attacks that can delete most of someone's healthbar. What I've sometimes done is use a heavy thruster with glintstone pebble, pressure a bit until the next hit will frostbite, then use glintstone pebble and watch their healthbar disappear. It's not even that hard to do, and stuff like giant hunt or a royal knight's resolve buffed attack work just as well.
Fun Fact: If you wear the Black Knife chest piece and use the Mimic Veil, your character will no longer become invisible and will instead stand/walk with the conjured mimicry.
That finish was truly epic. Had to watch it like seven times in a row. Someone, please, make a gif out of that XD
I wish this weren't every invasion I've done in the last 2 weeks.
I love how good Chase is at this, but he's still such a good sport about it all. Quite a rarity lol.
1:55 Claymore meta incoming. I was seriously surprised the first time you used it in stream and it was one hit procing bleed. With how beautifully refined they made the animation of the claymore this time around, it needs this!
I'm a huge proponent of the Flamberge, also. I tend to swap back and forth between the Claymore and the Flamberge, or power-stance with these two all leveled up. The Flamby's inherent bleed is a nice base to work with.
Nah poles pokes is still easier same amount of proc needed
I hope meta won't just be Bleed meta, but it'll be nice to see a change of weapon that procs the status.
@@TheReapersSon Love using the Flamberge. I've been using it more or less since I picked it up on my strength faith run, paired with fire incants and buffs. The only thing it's missing is a thrust, and you can fix that with the right ash of war.
@@WedgeSkyrocket one of my favorite ashes of war believe it or not is the stomp. It doesn't do a lot of damage but it roll catches and stunlocks people in their moves and you can combo into it pretty quickly. Mix it up between throwing pots, kukris / throwing daggers, and stomp'n'slash.
ChaseTheEffinBro!
Was hoping to see that Tea Bag of Justice from the stream. Lol!
Thx for sharing
Everyone's using rivers of blood, blood loss. Comes across someone using something different, uses blood loss anyway.....
The Katanas are the real Dark Souls experience!
Your videos are always so fun to watch thank you man!
The Omenkiller Great Cleaver is really fun!
I was duel wielding those at like level 60 leveled both to +18 it was one shotting everyone with the jumping L2 in PvP
I kept the wild strikes which with the ironjar aromatic is really good at poising through rivers of blood
You should use the varre mask, gives extra ar with bleed proc. Seppuku also counts for it.
I legit chuckled when you said “allow me to introduce you to the s e p p u k u c l a y m o r e”
"The aim on this man!? Ten out of ten!"
Thaaaank youu.....
8:45 was such an anime thing 😂 hit him. put back blade. "Omae wa mo shindeiru"
Meanwhile I am just happy with my dual eclipse sickles. I shall turn everyone into a Christmas tree!
Is that time of the month, huh? XD
this still holds true nearly a month later. people are using other things just to break the monotony. i wrote a guide that will put you in the top 25% in elder ring pvp if you follow it to the letter.
1. get rivers of blood
2. level to at least +7
3. stack poise
4. LT in every situation
"Nice aim, 10/10, 10/10 aim"
"Thank you"
You sound so chill and here your probably the best PvP player no cap
oh god things of nightmares from the deepest parts of hell soo much rivers of blood
LoL ROB KATANAS PARTY, LETS L2 SPAM TOGETHER hahahahhaa im died man 😂 thats hilarious
Oh man! You are so fun to watch play! I loved your DKS3 content, and it now carries over here. Have you ever streamed or made videos on your PVE progression? Great stuff dude!
I was really surprised they didn't nerf RoB in the patch... or hemmorage/bleed in general.
Water Breathing, Forbidden Form: Rivers of Blood!
we were made by the blood undone by the blood fear the rivers of blood
My guy pulling out Rivers of blood, Moonveil, and lightning strike all in 1 build and he still gets clapped by another rivers of blood like jesus christ
17:45 might be one of the first times ive seen chase die lmao
Hey chase! Any plans for a quality build? There are some cool quality weapons: ghiza's wheel, axe of godrick, sword of milos, axe of godfrey... and you can still use claymore 😁
+1 on that. But maybe once Colossal weapons become somewhat useful against a certain overused bleeding katana lol
I’ve found that raptors of the mist is really useful against rivers of blood
Noted
"Flap flap! Flap flap flap flap... Flap!"
-Sun Tzu (probably).
Honestly, Chase with the blood slinger is terrifying. I’m glad I play on Xbox.
3:08 me who has played league for 8-9 years... *screaming in my head* PENTA.. ITS CALLED A PENTA
You became the RoB to destroy the RoB
I love that my "omai wo mo" made it in lol