We had coccidia problem for the past few years but my dad who was in charge of animals didn't bother to figure out what the problem is. This year half of our lambs died and then I had enough and went to the vet for advice. She gave me a medicine and after giving it to the lambs oraly for 5 days no more died but they are slow growers now. I took over the animals from my dad now and I'm learning how to properly manage them from you, your videos are very helpful and informative, thank you.
Thank you. We appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave a detailed comment about your experience. Best of luck to you in the future. Glad to hear things are going much better!
Birds come into the barn and their droppings drop into water buckets and feed pans and toughs. We change out water buckets and clean out feeders every couple of days to prevent coccidiosis.
Hello, David. That’s great. A lot of people overlook their chickens as carriers of coccidia. We do the same thing as you. It seems no matter how hard we try, the chickens like to attempt to poop where they shouldn’t.
That’s great! We are glad to have you aboard. Be sure to check out all of our free forms and other helpful documents on our website at www.linessafarms.com. Just go got the upper right hand corner and click on downloads. Also, we have an online forum on Facebook called Linessa Farm’s Tack Box. You can also catch our weekly live stream on Wednesdays at 8PM CST where we ask viewer questions live. Thanks again! Tim
Great video and job as always. Got my feed supplement from you and the sheep love it and I'm enjoying the notepad. great price on the feed and shipping!
@@LinessaFarms Hello bruh you never showed the Decoxx that you use are you talking about Decoxx X10 the stuff that looks like saw dust that mixes with the food?
Very good advice! Thank you for this video. This is very importnat if you are letting your chicken's free-range and they go into your sheep area each day! My vet caught this issue on our farm one day when she was there doing other retinue vaccinations. She saw the chickens running around, and the cat, she recommended I do a preventative for coccidiosis, which I do in the water of the sheep and the chickens. But I am now going to try mixing feed as Tim shows in his other videos, so I bought some of Tim's special supplements that have the coccidiosis preventative in them. Thanks, Tim.
Thanks, Sandra. You bring up some very good points about having mixed animals on your farm. We don't talk about it very often but we definitely enjoy having multiple animals on our farm and they all serve an important role. Our chickens help out with fly control and our cats help out a lot with our rodent control. With this all being said, there are considerations that go into place when mixing species. We tend to think of the more obvious concerns such as poisons and nutritional needs but can sometimes overlook things such as coccidiosis. Thanks again for watching our videos and for taking the time to leave a comment. We appreciate it.
You will need a treatment and a preventative. We are able to provide you with preventative medications such as Deccox and treatment medications such as toltrazuril. Send us an email for more specific info.
Thank you, Alicia. We appreciate you taking the time to leave a message. We hope you found some of our other videos helpful as well. We have an online forum on Facebook called Linessa Farms Tack Box where you can ask questions and read up to date articles regarding all kinds of sheep and goat stuff. Thanks again.
So do you still recommend corid to control coccidiosis? We have been using Toltrazuril. The vet once had me use Albion, but it did not work hardly at all. I know that Toltrazuril is not FDA approved. However, it seems to work better than the Albans but I do believe I’m going to need to do a preventative. I was led to believe I could simply use Toltrazuril when I see an outbreak. I will be going back to medicated feed!
I know a lot of folks are using it with good results. The bovatec in it is helpful for coccidia prevention. You would have to research dosages for goats since it is designed for cattle. If you aren’t feeding free choice medicated creep, this may be a good option. Be cautious if offering other types of medicated feed to avoid any potential over dosing.
Thank you for all your videos being new to kiko aug 21 2021 we bought 3 now we have 6 - 3 are suppose to be bred for late Jan babies I have learned so much!!!! The coccidioses does it transfer to dogs chickens horses? In Dec I will be giving my cdt and the preventive that you talked about in video The medicated you sell is this a preventive of all diseases? And what blood test would do for diseases or parasite Thanks zi dy
Hello and thank you for watching our videos. Also, thank you for taking the time to send us a question! Coccidiosis is primarily host specific however there are a few instances where it can cross contaminate. Dog, chickens, cats, sheep, and goats are a few of the animals that get it but the coccidia are not transmittable between them. An important exception is the coccidia from cats that can cause issues with pregnant humans, and can cause abortion in sheep and goats. Another point that should be made is coccidiosis medication in sheep, goat, cattle, and hog feed can kill horses, alpacas, llama, and dogs in short order. Always protect these animals from feed and accidental poisoning. Our feed contains vitamins, minerals, and nutrients your livestock need. Our ingredients are specifically formulated to help aid digestion, decrease incident of urinary calculi (in males), increase milk production (females), maintain healthy wool and hair, and decrease incidents of coccidiosis. The downside is, most of are feed products are very specific and we do not advise feeding to all species. We have a few products that can be fed to both sheep and goats but most are very specific. If you have any questions about what would work best for you, let us know. Thanks again, Tim
So I raise dairy goats, will I have to hold milk back for certain amount of time if I'm feeding this to my does during lactation? Thank you for your video!!
So with the damage already done how do you continue to care for them? Is there something specific that can be given or is it just a matter of not if they die but when
Unfortunately, damage from coccidia usually scars the intestinal lining leading to long term malnutrition issues. The scaring is permanent and there isn’t much you can do other than make sure you keep them on the best diet possible. Unfortunately, even on a great diet, they will still struggle. Some will eventually die, others may just have minimal damage and be slow growers, etc…. Thanks for watching our videos and thank you for taking the time to ask us a question.
We used to get coccidia in our goats.we started talking to big goats farms and how they deal with it.we started using medicated feed about 10 years ago and no more problems.
Hello, Keith. For all intents and purposes, feeds medicated for coccidia prevention are safe to feed all the time without fear of complications such as medication resistance. Likewise, medications to help prevent urinary calculi such as ammonium chloride are very helpful. 2 medications we feel should be limited are antibiotics and inorganic chemical wormers.
My concern with Coccidia is the loss of Thiamine. If I use the Corid, can I supplement with Vitamin B Complex after the Corid Treatment? I have been using Baycox which was very effective but I learned from my vet, it is not FDA approved. For a small herd of 10, May I ask for your thoughts?
Baycox/toltrazuril is one of the most effective and safe medications out there. You can read about this in Merck veterinary manual and in other medical journals as well. As you stated, it works very well. It’s concerning that your vet is telling you what not to use but isn’t telling what to use or how to use it properly. In my opinion, Corrid is a dirty drug that doesn’t work very well. It also (as you stated) has lots of side effects. Not only should you use fortified vitamin B complex when using it, you MUST use it or your animal is going to have problems. Toltrazuril is not FDA approved. Yep. There are a large volume of drugs used extra label and off label in the USA. Unfortunately, there isn’t much money or incentive in sheep and goats here in the USA for medications. Toltrazuril is such a problem because almost every other country that has any significant sheep and goats is using. NZ, AU, CA, and most of Europe. It’s too bad.
We had one juvenile goat, that we noticed didnt grow at all in a period of two months, but didn't think nothing was wrong with him as he kept eating and overall seemed normal . My husband notice he was just laying in one place, didnt have scours or nothing, but did looked kind of bloated., he gave him med for parasites but didn't seemed to help, then later same day suddenly die.
He may have had damage to his digestive system from parasites or coccidia. Many times when we see failure to thrive/poor growth, it is due to a coccidia issue. He could also have simply had some kind of congenital defect as well. The only way to know if you’re dealing with parasites is by performing a fecal test.
I missed this comment last week. You are correct. It seems some animals are more prone to it than others. While most develop some immunity later in life, some simply never seem to.
We tend to use mostly Deccox, however this last year we started using rumensin more and felt it did a good job. I have heard similar experiences with bovatec.
The devil is in the wording. Coccidiosis and coccidia are not considered the same thing. Animals can have coccidia and not ever get ill with “coccidiosis”. So, you will see Corrid literature say “approved for coccidiosis prevention and treatment”. The point of all of these medications is to keep coccidia numbers as low as possible in the host and attempt to prevent transmission. Unfortunately, there isn’t anything out there that will eliminate it all together. If your goal is to control the spread of coccidia, you have lots of options. If you want to deal with a coccidiosis outbreak, corrid is a good option. Just remember it is always out there and take appropriate precautions. Hopefully this helps! Thanks, Tim
Then why aren’t people losing baby goats/ lambs left and right? This doesn’t make sense that it causes that much trouble and in such a short span of time or is such wide spread to everyone’s goats/ sheep.
Hello, Linda. This is a great question. If you’ve ever had a lamb or goat kid with scours, more than likely it was associated with a coccidiosis infection. Coccidiosis is in almost every flock (most just say every flock). Its basically a ticking time bomb. Usually symptoms of infection are considered sub-clinical (not visibly apparent) but still cause damage to the lambs and goat kids in the form of nutrient deficiency and feed conversion. Historically since I got into sheep in the mid-90’s I’ve only seen 2-3 full blown outbreaks that lead to mass death of many lambs. This is usually associated with some type of stress such as severe weather change, weaning, or in conjunction with other illnesses like pneumonia or other immune system weaning occurrences. Most large farms will have a handful of “bummers” every year that get subclinical infections every year and just don’t thrive. If you’ve never personally seen it, you eventually will. Even with us feeding medicated supplements we still get one from time to time. The good news is, once the animals age, they tend to develop immunity and just become carriers. If people choose not to give preventative medications for coccidiosis, that’s ok. We just want people to be aware it’s a real problem and treatment can make significant differences in feed conversion ratios, growth, and overall health. There are a lot of great university studies and papers on this subject. I will attach one here. Thanks for the great question and thanks for watching our videos. www.canr.msu.edu/news/preventing_coccidiosis_in_goats_and_sheep
From what I read in many places coccidia are not the same for various species and don't cross species. Gets confusing cause now you're acting like it crosses species from any animal to any animal? So which is it?
Yes, this is confusing. You are correct that most coccidia is very host specific. Even the common coccidia strains that effect sheep and goats are different. Unfortunately, there is one noted exception which is a real pain in the behind and this is the coccidia that causes toxoplasmosis (toxoplasma gondi). Cats, rodents, and a whole slew of animals can carry this. Hopefully this helps clear things up!
Hello Doug. I actually cover some of the side effects in the introduction, I talk about abortion in the first minute and I talk about more symptoms and actually list them on the screen at 3:29. The number one symptom you will notice (assuming they don’t die from bloody diarrhea) will be a lifelong inability to grow and thrive. If you’ve ever seen an animal that just doesn’t grow or always looks malnourished no matter what they are fed, chances are, you’re looking at damage from coccidiosis.
We had coccidia problem for the past few years but my dad who was in charge of animals didn't bother to figure out what the problem is. This year half of our lambs died and then I had enough and went to the vet for advice. She gave me a medicine and after giving it to the lambs oraly for 5 days no more died but they are slow growers now. I took over the animals from my dad now and I'm learning how to properly manage them from you, your videos are very helpful and informative, thank you.
Thank you. We appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave a detailed comment about your experience. Best of luck to you in the future. Glad to hear things are going much better!
I had that with a kitten! It was brutal! I thought she was going to die. The vet meds saved her. 🙏❤️ Thank you Tim!
Hello, Jami. Thanks for watching our videos and thanks for taking the time to comment!
Birds come into the barn and their droppings drop into water buckets and feed pans and toughs. We change out water buckets and clean out feeders every couple of days to prevent coccidiosis.
Hello, David. That’s great. A lot of people overlook their chickens as carriers of coccidia. We do the same thing as you. It seems no matter how hard we try, the chickens like to attempt to poop where they shouldn’t.
Very informative video. Thanks
Also your video on organic dewormer copper sulfate was excellent.
Thank you for watching our videos and thanks for taking the time to leave a nice comment! We appreciate it. 😬
A Very Interesting Video! Thanks for sharing this info to all of us! 😊
Thanks, Kim.
Actually dealing with coccidiosis now thank you for video
You’re very welcome. Good luck!
Just found this channel and devouring the content! I'm buying a goat herd next week...
That’s great! We are glad to have you aboard. Be sure to check out all of our free forms and other helpful documents on our website at www.linessafarms.com. Just go got the upper right hand corner and click on downloads. Also, we have an online forum on Facebook called Linessa Farm’s Tack Box. You can also catch our weekly live stream on Wednesdays at 8PM CST where we ask viewer questions live.
Thanks again!
Tim
Thanks for the great video. Lots of good information. Really loving your content! Keep it up
Thanks for watching our videos and thanks for taking the time to leave a nice comment. 👍🏻
Great video and job as always. Got my feed supplement from you and the sheep love it and I'm enjoying the notepad. great price on the feed and shipping!
Thanks, Gerald! We appreciate the kind words. 😬
@@LinessaFarms Hello bruh you never showed the Decoxx that you use are you talking about Decoxx X10 the stuff that looks like saw dust that mixes with the food?
Very good advice! Thank you for this video. This is very importnat if you are letting your chicken's free-range and they go into your sheep area each day! My vet caught this issue on our farm one day when she was there doing other retinue vaccinations. She saw the chickens running around, and the cat, she recommended I do a preventative for coccidiosis, which I do in the water of the sheep and the chickens. But I am now going to try mixing feed as Tim shows in his other videos, so I bought some of Tim's special supplements that have the coccidiosis preventative in them. Thanks, Tim.
Thanks, Sandra. You bring up some very good points about having mixed animals on your farm. We don't talk about it very often but we definitely enjoy having multiple animals on our farm and they all serve an important role. Our chickens help out with fly control and our cats help out a lot with our rodent control. With this all being said, there are considerations that go into place when mixing species. We tend to think of the more obvious concerns such as poisons and nutritional needs but can sometimes overlook things such as coccidiosis. Thanks again for watching our videos and for taking the time to leave a comment. We appreciate it.
How do you treated cacciodiosis again please and how I can get the treatment please.
You will need a treatment and a preventative. We are able to provide you with preventative medications such as Deccox and treatment medications such as toltrazuril. Send us an email for more specific info.
Thank you very informative compared to the other videos
Thank you, Alicia. We appreciate you taking the time to leave a message. We hope you found some of our other videos helpful as well. We have an online forum on Facebook called Linessa Farms Tack Box where you can ask questions and read up to date articles regarding all kinds of sheep and goat stuff. Thanks again.
You are doing a great job man
Thank you very much!
So do you still recommend corid to control coccidiosis? We have been using Toltrazuril. The vet once had me use Albion, but it did not work hardly at all. I know that Toltrazuril is not FDA approved. However, it seems to work better than the Albans but I do believe I’m going to need to do a preventative. I was led to believe I could simply use Toltrazuril when I see an outbreak. I will be going back to medicated feed!
Hi Tim :) Can you show us that potable feeder in the beginning of this video.
Sure. We can do that. 😬
What are you thoughts on calf pro medicated added to the milk for bottle fed babies?
I know a lot of folks are using it with good results. The bovatec in it is helpful for coccidia prevention. You would have to research dosages for goats since it is designed for cattle. If you aren’t feeding free choice medicated creep, this may be a good option. Be cautious if offering other types of medicated feed to avoid any potential over dosing.
Timmy thank you so much for all the advices and videos.
You’re very welcome, Tony. I hope you and your family are doing well.
Thank you for all your videos being new to kiko aug 21 2021 we bought 3 now we have 6 - 3 are suppose to be bred for late Jan babies
I have learned so much!!!!
The coccidioses does it transfer to dogs chickens horses?
In Dec I will be giving my cdt and the preventive that you talked about in video
The medicated you sell is this a preventive of all diseases?
And what blood test would do for diseases or parasite
Thanks zi dy
Hello and thank you for watching our videos. Also, thank you for taking the time to send us a question!
Coccidiosis is primarily host specific however there are a few instances where it can cross contaminate. Dog, chickens, cats, sheep, and goats are a few of the animals that get it but the coccidia are not transmittable between them. An important exception is the coccidia from cats that can cause issues with pregnant humans, and can cause abortion in sheep and goats.
Another point that should be made is coccidiosis medication in sheep, goat, cattle, and hog feed can kill horses, alpacas, llama, and dogs in short order. Always protect these animals from feed and accidental poisoning.
Our feed contains vitamins, minerals, and nutrients your livestock need. Our ingredients are specifically formulated to help aid digestion, decrease incident of urinary calculi (in males), increase milk production (females), maintain healthy wool and hair, and decrease incidents of coccidiosis. The downside is, most of are feed products are very specific and we do not advise feeding to all species. We have a few products that can be fed to both sheep and goats but most are very specific.
If you have any questions about what would work best for you, let us know.
Thanks again, Tim
So I raise dairy goats, will I have to hold milk back for certain amount of time if I'm feeding this to my does during lactation? Thank you for your video!!
If you are using your milk for human consumption, you will need to refer to the manufacturer recommendations for withholding time.
So with the damage already done how do you continue to care for them? Is there something specific that can be given or is it just a matter of not if they die but when
Unfortunately, damage from coccidia usually scars the intestinal lining leading to long term malnutrition issues. The scaring is permanent and there isn’t much you can do other than make sure you keep them on the best diet possible. Unfortunately, even on a great diet, they will still struggle. Some will eventually die, others may just have minimal damage and be slow growers, etc….
Thanks for watching our videos and thank you for taking the time to ask us a question.
Hey,is their anyway I can cause my ewes to come he heat faster
I responded on your other post. 😎
I’m confused you said all goats have it… when or how much do they need to have before you medicate. Does medication actually get rid of it?
We used to get coccidia in our goats.we started talking to big goats farms and how they deal with it.we started using medicated feed about 10 years ago and no more problems.
Does it hurt to feed medicated all the time for sheep?
Hello, Keith. For all intents and purposes, feeds medicated for coccidia prevention are safe to feed all the time without fear of complications such as medication resistance. Likewise, medications to help prevent urinary calculi such as ammonium chloride are very helpful. 2 medications we feel should be limited are antibiotics and inorganic chemical wormers.
My concern with Coccidia is the loss of Thiamine. If I use the Corid, can I supplement with Vitamin B Complex after the Corid Treatment? I have been using Baycox which was very effective but I learned from my vet, it is not FDA approved. For a small herd of 10, May I ask for your thoughts?
Baycox/toltrazuril is one of the most effective and safe medications out there. You can read about this in Merck veterinary manual and in other medical journals as well. As you stated, it works very well.
It’s concerning that your vet is telling you what not to use but isn’t telling what to use or how to use it properly. In my opinion, Corrid is a dirty drug that doesn’t work very well. It also (as you stated) has lots of side effects. Not only should you use fortified vitamin B complex when using it, you MUST use it or your animal is going to have problems.
Toltrazuril is not FDA approved. Yep. There are a large volume of drugs used extra label and off label in the USA. Unfortunately, there isn’t much money or incentive in sheep and goats here in the USA for medications. Toltrazuril is such a problem because almost every other country that has any significant sheep and goats is using. NZ, AU, CA, and most of Europe. It’s too bad.
We had one juvenile goat, that we noticed didnt grow at all in a period of two months, but didn't think nothing was wrong with him as he kept eating and overall seemed normal . My husband notice he was just laying in one place, didnt have scours or nothing, but did looked kind of bloated., he gave him med for parasites but didn't seemed to help, then later same day suddenly die.
He may have had damage to his digestive system from parasites or coccidia. Many times when we see failure to thrive/poor growth, it is due to a coccidia issue. He could also have simply had some kind of congenital defect as well. The only way to know if you’re dealing with parasites is by performing a fecal test.
Great video.
Coccidiosis is dangerous for exotic sheep & goats even well into their adulthood. It’s a constant battle for our Nubian Ibex.
I missed this comment last week. You are correct. It seems some animals are more prone to it than others. While most develop some immunity later in life, some simply never seem to.
I never had much luck with bovitec tbh
We tend to use mostly Deccox, however this last year we started using rumensin more and felt it did a good job. I have heard similar experiences with bovatec.
@@LinessaFarms yes I’m using rumensin as well things are getting better 👍🏻
If Corrid is not a preventative then maybe the Corrid manufacturer needs to remove prevention information from all of their labeling and literature.
The devil is in the wording. Coccidiosis and coccidia are not considered the same thing. Animals can have coccidia and not ever get ill with “coccidiosis”. So, you will see Corrid literature say “approved for coccidiosis prevention and treatment”. The point of all of these medications is to keep coccidia numbers as low as possible in the host and attempt to prevent transmission. Unfortunately, there isn’t anything out there that will eliminate it all together. If your goal is to control the spread of coccidia, you have lots of options. If you want to deal with a coccidiosis outbreak, corrid is a good option. Just remember it is always out there and take appropriate precautions. Hopefully this helps!
Thanks,
Tim
❤❤😊
Then why aren’t people losing baby goats/ lambs left and right? This doesn’t make sense that it causes that much trouble and in such a short span of time or is such wide spread to everyone’s goats/ sheep.
Hello, Linda. This is a great question. If you’ve ever had a lamb or goat kid with scours, more than likely it was associated with a coccidiosis infection. Coccidiosis is in almost every flock (most just say every flock). Its basically a ticking time bomb. Usually symptoms of infection are considered sub-clinical (not visibly apparent) but still cause damage to the lambs and goat kids in the form of nutrient deficiency and feed conversion. Historically since I got into sheep in the mid-90’s I’ve only seen 2-3 full blown outbreaks that lead to mass death of many lambs. This is usually associated with some type of stress such as severe weather change, weaning, or in conjunction with other illnesses like pneumonia or other immune system weaning occurrences. Most large farms will have a handful of “bummers” every year that get subclinical infections every year and just don’t thrive. If you’ve never personally seen it, you eventually will. Even with us feeding medicated supplements we still get one from time to time. The good news is, once the animals age, they tend to develop immunity and just become carriers. If people choose not to give preventative medications for coccidiosis, that’s ok. We just want people to be aware it’s a real problem and treatment can make significant differences in feed conversion ratios, growth, and overall health.
There are a lot of great university studies and papers on this subject. I will attach one here. Thanks for the great question and thanks for watching our videos.
www.canr.msu.edu/news/preventing_coccidiosis_in_goats_and_sheep
Hello Timmy could you write the name of medication to treat coccidiosis please to prevent and treaded please. Thanks a lot
From what I read in many places coccidia are not the same for various species and don't cross species. Gets confusing cause now you're acting like it crosses species from any animal to any animal? So which is it?
Yes, this is confusing. You are correct that most coccidia is very host specific. Even the common coccidia strains that effect sheep and goats are different. Unfortunately, there is one noted exception which is a real pain in the behind and this is the coccidia that causes toxoplasmosis (toxoplasma gondi). Cats, rodents, and a whole slew of animals can carry this. Hopefully this helps clear things up!
@@LinessaFarms thanks for the help. Now i have more research to do. No clue what toxoplasmosis is.
Coccidiosis
You keep saying symptoms then dont say what they are....comon man!
Hello Doug. I actually cover some of the side effects in the introduction, I talk about abortion in the first minute and I talk about more symptoms and actually list them on the screen at 3:29.
The number one symptom you will notice (assuming they don’t die from bloody diarrhea) will be a lifelong inability to grow and thrive. If you’ve ever seen an animal that just doesn’t grow or always looks malnourished no matter what they are fed, chances are, you’re looking at damage from coccidiosis.